A video about the TM Warthog with "The best JOYSTICK EVER MADE" in the title. Ok, there's the Winwing Orion, the Virpil sticks, the VKB sticks, VPForce is making an FFB stick. Even the VKB NXT Evo is much better and isn't honestly as expensive, of course, it's the stick only, but still. Thrustmaster and Logitech/Saitek have ancient gimbal designs that yeah, they work, and yes, they were the best but in their time, and that was a long long time ago.
@@calmac938 oh yeah, as soon as I have the money, I'll order one myself too. I've been waiting for something to replace my Sidewinder FFB2, since flying helos without force feedback is impossible to me now, and seems like VPForce Rhino is the way to go
@@mrpetenothing3753 partially same, I love the throttle, especially because the Hog was my first module and having all the controllers automatically set up made learning the module easy. The stick base though, its ancient gimbal design doesn't compare to all the new stuff
Given how long TM Warthog was clear top of game for both non-sim pit and sim-pit premium gear…I’d call it the goat. It’s silly to call their designs ancient when it’s simply mocking the real thing. I don’t give them particular praise for it because they aren’t inventing but there is no critique either. Virpil catches up if you’re fine with genetics HOTAS losing the mimicked military style. Virpil stuff can be lacking in switches that need to hold a position (button) which DCS has a bit of. As such, it is clearly better for space sims or MSFS. Virpil throttle base is generically really good and the slider on the throttle grip is a perfect use case for DCS zoom view. The problem is for certain aircraft that should probably be a different control. Wingwing Orion2 system I think finally eclipses TM Warthog throttle base in almost every way. They keep the mock military style, but they made a conscious decision to group generic/common controls of various 3rd and 4th gen fighters. On a throttle base alone I think this is a good decision because every platform is so different and won’t pack useful controls near the throttle grip. The F-16EX could be a Warthog stick killer given how many controls they’ve added to it. Provided the real controls of the F-16 and A-10 haven’t been made more difficult to access, it’s a clear win there too. And the killer feature of the Orion2 system to me is how they allow switching to any throttle grip they make in the future and have an authentic F-16 and Ka-50 collective grip out. I’m waiting on the F-16 throttle to arrive. All in all I’ve had the TM Warthog for 11 years now and got the F/A-18 grip on a separate stick. Waiting on Winwing Orion2 throttle + F-16EX stick to add: and Virpil control bases 1 and 2 to support all aircraft common controls I can’t push onto either throttle base. The trend that TM set which Virpil and Winwing clearly followed was in making premium gear that is capable of sitting on top of a normal desk. Many people willing to spend an invest a bit still won’t have a completely separate room and PC for flight sims versus productivity.
@@EbonySeraphim I'm not talking about the design of the grip and throttle, I'm talking about the design of their gimbal. It definitely isn't "replicating" the real thing, because the real thing doesn't have a plastic gimbal that develops stiction over time and has a big play in the center
all the joysticks on the Hotas are made for the weapon system controls on the A-10, e.g. you spot a tank so you fire a laser at it for your laser guided bombs/missiles.
I've had my TM Warthog for I don't know how many years now and still works great. I picked up a set of Vipril rudders a few month backs and got rid of the thrustmaster pedals for DCS and I use bothh for MS 2020 also.
Just upgraded from TM Warthog to WINWING Orion 2 HOTAS with F15EX Throttle Grip. I hated the TDC controller on the TM Warthog and a number of the switches had started to fail.
I’ve had this joystick for like 3-5 years or something like that and it was great but I switched to a brunner yoke as it really wasn’t good for arliners and I didn’t fly military aircraft that much
This hotas is old and not worth the price anymore , i would recommend a virpil stick with a cheaper throttle like the thrustmaster twcs throttle. This because the build quality of the throttle is not what i expected for the price. And the software is really bad, and when you get it working, you still need to launch the profile everytime you start your pc up to be able to use the switches properly
The best? Yeah like 8 years ago. It became famous for delivering premium quality for a mid-range price in the past, but things have changed and it has long been dethroned.
Giveaway soon?🥴
Great Swiss 😄😄
gut
Yeah
Good idea
yeah gimme the a320 joystick i have been following you from the start keep up the grat content
You should have played dcs a10 with this cause it's made for that and dcs has the most realistic a10
I agree!
@@squakinkakas +1
give it to meee 🙃
Don't forget the crash physics!
Agreed
A video about the TM Warthog with "The best JOYSTICK EVER MADE" in the title.
Ok, there's the Winwing Orion, the Virpil sticks, the VKB sticks, VPForce is making an FFB stick. Even the VKB NXT Evo is much better and isn't honestly as expensive, of course, it's the stick only, but still. Thrustmaster and Logitech/Saitek have ancient gimbal designs that yeah, they work, and yes, they were the best but in their time, and that was a long long time ago.
VP force is on stick 6 now I think, I've just ordered one and should be getting one soon. So excited!"
@@calmac938 oh yeah, as soon as I have the money, I'll order one myself too. I've been waiting for something to replace my Sidewinder FFB2, since flying helos without force feedback is impossible to me now, and seems like VPForce Rhino is the way to go
@@mrpetenothing3753 partially same, I love the throttle, especially because the Hog was my first module and having all the controllers automatically set up made learning the module easy.
The stick base though, its ancient gimbal design doesn't compare to all the new stuff
Given how long TM Warthog was clear top of game for both non-sim pit and sim-pit premium gear…I’d call it the goat. It’s silly to call their designs ancient when it’s simply mocking the real thing. I don’t give them particular praise for it because they aren’t inventing but there is no critique either.
Virpil catches up if you’re fine with genetics HOTAS losing the mimicked military style. Virpil stuff can be lacking in switches that need to hold a position (button) which DCS has a bit of. As such, it is clearly better for space sims or MSFS. Virpil throttle base is generically really good and the slider on the throttle grip is a perfect use case for DCS zoom view. The problem is for certain aircraft that should probably be a different control.
Wingwing Orion2 system I think finally eclipses TM Warthog throttle base in almost every way. They keep the mock military style, but they made a conscious decision to group generic/common controls of various 3rd and 4th gen fighters. On a throttle base alone I think this is a good decision because every platform is so different and won’t pack useful controls near the throttle grip. The F-16EX could be a Warthog stick killer given how many controls they’ve added to it. Provided the real controls of the F-16 and A-10 haven’t been made more difficult to access, it’s a clear win there too. And the killer feature of the Orion2 system to me is how they allow switching to any throttle grip they make in the future and have an authentic F-16 and Ka-50 collective grip out. I’m waiting on the F-16 throttle to arrive.
All in all I’ve had the TM Warthog for 11 years now and got the F/A-18 grip on a separate stick. Waiting on Winwing Orion2 throttle + F-16EX stick to add: and Virpil control bases 1 and 2 to support all aircraft common controls I can’t push onto either throttle base.
The trend that TM set which Virpil and Winwing clearly followed was in making premium gear that is capable of sitting on top of a normal desk. Many people willing to spend an invest a bit still won’t have a completely separate room and PC for flight sims versus productivity.
@@EbonySeraphim I'm not talking about the design of the grip and throttle, I'm talking about the design of their gimbal. It definitely isn't "replicating" the real thing, because the real thing doesn't have a plastic gimbal that develops stiction over time and has a big play in the center
The Warthog is still a good choice, but there are even better options now. Virpil/VKB/Winwing are a step ahead in gimbal design.
also wayyyy more expensive
@@yokez VKB not that expensive. Paid a total of 210 which includes the 40 shipping from China on the VKB premium. (space combat)
@@maybecole fair enough but when people compare this to virpil as if its in the same price range i shidd myself a little
@@yokez true
@@maybecole cheap plastic tho. u will want the gunflighter. also that VKB doesnt come with a throttle.
swiss001: gets a $500 A-10 Sidestick for free. Also swiss001: uses it to fly a cessna 150
great externals, but the internals suck. Awful gimbals. Virpil base+thrustmaster stick= best
Swiss always brings new setups but still uses the Airbus Joystick
We love you Swiss! Your videos are really funny!
He might use this now if it’s the best he has ever felt.
Yes maybe
@@mikeyplayzwrld If he removes the spring maybe, or else he's going to get tendinitis
all the joysticks on the Hotas are made for the weapon system controls on the A-10, e.g. you spot a tank so you fire a laser at it for your laser guided bombs/missiles.
Ahh yes Swiss is finally back with Top Gun again :)
Yeah 🤣
Yeah lol
@@Amaronix Haha 😂😂
You should try the DCS A10 with it. Love your videos
100% agree
I've had my TM Warthog for I don't know how many years now and still works great. I picked up a set of Vipril rudders a few month backs and got rid of the thrustmaster pedals for DCS and I use bothh for MS 2020 also.
You should get the Fairchild Republic A-10 'Warthog' Thunderbolt II for the simulator from the ingame store to test it out with the joystick.
It isn't, virpil is there ! But it IS amazing
Vkb
still under virpil imo but vkb's amazing too for sure @@qLeoYT
Thrust master seems to be really doing well. They definitely need to make an Embraer yoke now
2:44 The sound looks legit 😂
That's the prettiest sound i'v ever seen
Swiss I LOVE your videos❤ please keep up the good work
i litterally just watched the joystick and throttle vids today-
HE READS THIS MIND
”watch the sound” cracked me up.
ASMR unboxing so chill
Swiss be drippin
THE DANGEROUS CHANNEL EVER 🤣
Everyone: how much joysticks do you want to have?
Swiss: yes!
Swiss your video's are so funny and entertaining. Love your channel so so much.
very nice you really flying like a professional and am just downloading the msfs
A tip: bind the big white lever on the throttle to the tiller function in the sim! Budget tiller haha
Okay, that is funny, I JUst bought the Tflight Hotas One, Which is an f-35 stick
HI SWISS I LOVE UR VUDEOS!!!
Whatever swiss you will break it like the other one😒 😃
Haha I agree
Just upgraded from TM Warthog to WINWING Orion 2 HOTAS with F15EX Throttle Grip. I hated the TDC controller on the TM Warthog and a number of the switches had started to fail.
I skipped the warthog and went straight to the Virpil Mongoost.
Everybody : the joystick is great
Me : The Swiss watch
Swiss I Love your videos ,funny and entertaining
It's that good, most of the lads from the Grim Reapers YT channel use them and these are proper hard core DCS pilots..
I’ve had this joystick for like 3-5 years or something like that and it was great but I switched to a brunner yoke as it really wasn’t good for arliners and I didn’t fly military aircraft that much
$500? Yikes, guess I'm hanging onto my Sidewinder Precision 2 for another couple decades.
I just got this setup and it's awesome! They provided a tool with it, what is it for?
I have a video idea, try to fly a plane with the small joystick on the trust lever.
Yeahhh DCS and the HOTAS is amazing!!!!!
And very surprisingly the movie is awesome
laughts in Virpil and Winwing
Gotta love that G910. Had mine for years
I have the HOTAS WARTHOG like 2 years ago its to good
swiss001: usually the controlls are in the left
Boeing: phew our pilots can use both
everybody gangsta until swiss finds about Virpil Controls
I can see that you are a professional Unboxer.🤣*min 1:43 & 2:36
Airbus will be mad 😂
would love to see a vid of this thing vs the Virpil
Swiss Love your videos they are always funny the Ryanair Videos are the best.
Best joystick ever made untill you try VKB or Virpil.
i got this last week and love it to bits
If you want a set of controls that will last with zero defects, this is the one to get. I got a set before FS2020 came out and they are still perfect.
They should send Swiss a home cockpit next
is it just me but swiss always looks good in his vidios
Swiss001 Quote of the day:
*Look* at the *sound*
swiss001: now this joystick is made for the a10
the only planes he flew: cessna 152,a boeing or something
This hotas is old and not worth the price anymore , i would recommend a virpil stick with a cheaper throttle like the thrustmaster twcs throttle. This because the build quality of the throttle is not what i expected for the price. And the software is really bad, and when you get it working, you still need to launch the profile everytime you start your pc up to be able to use the switches properly
Swiss got some drip 😎
ive been watching you sinse you make infinite flight vids, Keep the gud work
Hahahah "look at the sound" HAHAHAH love that part
7:08 You're right hand has absolutely disgusted me.
I JUST WATCHED A OLD SET UP NOW I SSEE NEW ONE
Yes
I think I have a tapeworm
Thanks for the video
Fun Fact: The 631 Aviation Ground School uses this to train RAF pilots.
flight sims on the uss yorktown have this too i got to use it
@@wowoking2 oh nice lol
$10 joystick is slow but $500 joystick is fast, i will but $500 joystick when it is working 😊
It seems like swiss isn't very impressed by this joystick. 😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣
Looks like you are talking to your mother behind you ;) I hope she liked it too.
I Have One On Those Of Xplane
love the intro
going to see maverick this weekend lets goooooo
“Look at the sound”🤨
No hate estill love your channel❤❤
0:01 the fact that he acted so drunk shows how heavy it is
*THUD*
holly sh*t man you are soo lucky i wish i had that joystick
Swiss! Boy happy birthday in advance! Im getting my covid vaccine on that day! 2 and 1 are my lucky number
So I clicked this thinking that you were also gonna fly the a10, can you make a video tomorrow about the a10 with that new joystick?
You should have flown the F 18!
damn that setup is very nice
That Top gun guy looks a bit like Swiss001 😂
Bruv I really love this content
Yesterday xbox released top gun plane, I knew swiss would try it out
I like how it’s a fighter jet joystick but doesn’t even fly one lol
man used a fighter jet joystick and flew a cessna😂😂
Let's check a joystick in an airliner! Picks a Boeing...
with interactable cockpit only with some planes
Shout out to Cirrus Design. I use to produce the wing skins on the SR22 15 years ago.
The best? Yeah like 8 years ago.
It became famous for delivering premium quality for a mid-range price in the past, but things have changed and it has long been dethroned.
whats the best then?
It's not unboxing, it's box ripping ! lol
I love your watch, does someone know what it is?
Yo Swiss i want to see you COMPLETLY BUTTER the a330 with this joystick
Very Nice joystick
Nice video Nick!!Hope you will unbox the cheapest joystick (usb joystick)from thrustmaster 🥺🙏
I have that joke too its really good for me
That is so sick
3:00 Shows image of the exact same thrustmaster hotas in a sim pit....
Fun fact about this you can get a fa/18 super hornet stick as an add on
I really need one of the bowling yolks cause I have an Xbox series X!
not him looking at the script every 5 seconds
By the way if you pull the throttle back it will shut down the engine