Thanks for this vid not many ppl covered this The fast voice could've just stopped when the tedious disassembly was over, thank you for being conscious of the time limit though. imo I really enjoyed the vid though. Thank you
Two questions (I have the exact same model): 1. Did the temps dropped after replacing the thermal paste? Mine reaches 78-80°, is it too much? (but has the warranty sticker so i cant teardown and change thermal paste :c ) 2. I use only one cable from the psu to the card (it splits in 2 cables with 6+2pins each), should I use two separate cables? Any vantage? thank you and sorry for my bad English
I just watched to make sure I didn’t miss any screws on my XC3 Black Gaming. Turns out I didn’t, the thermal pads just were like super glue. Twisting didn’t seem to work well for me. Ended up heating the radiator with a 1kW hair dryer for some time to get it separated. Had it in an itx case with no room to breathe, so water cooling was my only solution.
Can you please explain which resistors to shunt for a 3080TI XC3 Ultra? Sounds like if I want to just get a stable boost clock and not hit the power limit constantly, I'd do the 5 shunts by the PCI 8-pin connectors. Also did you use your superglue method for this shunt mod?
How often do you need to reapply flitz polish? I did that on my cpu like 3 years ago, and it definitely lost some shine. If I reapply it, hopefully it'll also help with the thermals.
Speaking of disassembly: do you reckon that red "lip" thing on the back is easy to take off/put back on? Thinking of painting it (if I ever get my hands on this card). Thanks!
Hey on your 3090 xc3 video you said that on this card you used 2mm pads to replace the thermal foam. But I noticed here that you are saying you're using 1mm pads. Which one is the right thickness I should get?
what kind of stock temps were you getting stock? fans 100%. EVGA is telling me the fact that my gpu hotspot according to HWinfo64 is 101c is normal. core temps are like 91c. just trying to get some info before i need RMA
The only way to see if your mod works is to actually use a watt meter connected before PSU, and measure power before and after. Great video though, I was able to get this exact card today from Amazon replacing 2080, will have waterblock on it eventually.
The firmware doesn't fix the powerlimit bug, I tried the firmware update last night when they dropped the new Precision X1. I asked for help on their forums and no response from them. As it is my card is limited to 320-330w which is crazy low.
My friend, did you have or do you have crashing problems with this card? I bought the same one and it will arrive in a few days, the point is that there are many users reporting failures in various models ... I would be very grateful if you would confirm this question.
Have you deshrouded the gpu? I’m curious if it’s flat to allow a few 120m fans to be attached to it. I know some gpus have metal clips that might get in the way.
Hi there this is a pretty good video, I was wondering if you were able to show what the heatsink looked like without the shroud as I am hoping to put this card in my Ncase M1As well as if you would be able to measure the width of the card without the shroud as well
Maybe a late answer, sorry about that, but I can tell you that by undervolting these EVGA cards you're getting pretty nice results I run mine at 1950Mhz@906mV and VRAM OC @1300Mhz, deshrouded the card and with decent cooling you'll keep it below 80°C The card won't run into the power limit and the frequency is pretty damn consistent
@@toctoc9927 My result for 3080 xc3 ultra, 1935Mhz @ 875mV, or 1950Mhz @ 880mV passed. I tried climbing higher in frequency, with a lower curve for the voltage. 2080Mhz @ 975Mv for 75 °c) because of the unsuitable cooling block! To put under a WATERCOOL waterblock for a higher and fresher climb
Any chance you can do some early temperature scaling. Basically blast some AC or cold outdoor air (if available) and see what the % change in average core clock is at say 50c vs 80c. I have a pretty good custom loop that kept my 1080 Ti below 40c in all but summertime. I gained about 125-150mhz OC over air OC at 80c. Used a modded BIOS as well. Didn't get higher clocks, but it kept them stable. TBH, this is probably the realistic the "ideal" scenario for the 3080/3090. At this point, it looks like the 3090 KPE HC is going to be the only card to get >20% FPS increase over the 3080... which is a big sad (likely going to cost $2500).
Hey man, great content! Got my sub that's for sure. I'm curious to see some of the actual FPS numbers, and noise levels (stock & OC) - to compare with other results from other AIB benchmarks & how they all compare to FE - hoping that's gonna be in your next video with RT benchmarks. Got one of these XC3 Ultras on pre-order, want to know if I made a good choice. Cheers!
VRel = reliability voltage, Vop = operating voltage. I get that on my 2080ti sometimes with 380w bios. Its when it wants to draw more power but the voltage is already maxed at the temp its at. (according to the bios curve) . Looking forward to seeing liquid metal!
2X8 pin PCIE power cable Wattage limitation? surely with the shunt and if the factory board power is above reference, then wouldnt you very quickly run into the maximum spec for the 2x8? i didnt get to see your power draw so i am unsure how far away you were, great video as always! making these Ampere gpus worth talking about!
The power supply itself doesn’t limit the spec of how much power can be pulled from it, that’s why when you shunt the previous gen cards you can hit 500 watts one two 8 pins, it’s just a spec but it doesn’t have to be followed
Amazing shit dude love it. Was originally looking for a disassembly of this card cus I wanted to replace thermal paste, and you had that and some really interesting entertaining stuff on top! Never heard of shunting cards so this was really cool. I usually hit 80c max load and have decent airflow and was thinking replacing thermal paste might help
Yeah I don’t see anything about a shunt mod when I looked into it, purely just a temperature drop clockspeed increase? It does boost much better with 100% fan soeed
@@FrameChasers Ok I'm completly idiot when talking about advanced overclocking, but they used a bunch of cables on the back of the card. What are they for?
Thanks for the video! I have the exact same card and am too much of a pussy to tear it down without seeing someone else do it first lol. Is the copper cold plate just a cold plate or is it a vapor chamber? Cause I'm pretty sure the FTW3 has a vapor chamber so I was curious if the xc3 had one too.
I do not know if this helps you and/or if it auto subbed, but the main thing that it is saying, that the memory runs at 104 C and throttels at 110 C. That ist with the FE but I would think this could be the case here? th-cam.com/video/_SO2b_VIOXI/w-d-xo.html
Tf would you get an EVGA card for and then use AB? The card is specifically meant for Precision X1? Other people are getting +115 core and +800 Mem easily O_O
You shouldn’t talk unless you have one, precision X1 doesn’t work either, my card goes upto 2070mhz and +1250ram anyway, it doesn’t mean it’s not power limited to 320 watts anyway and the power slider doesn’t work
@@FrameChasers Mine comes in Wednesday - so I'll do my own tests. There are also multiple videos of people already OC-ing XC3 Ultra's and they're hitting board power values of 350 watts+ I'm not sure why you're getting different results, what your benching looks like, or what your test setup looks like - but something seems off if other people are getting the exact same card and having quite different results. Additionally, if you want to chalk that up to Silicone Lottery for YOUR card in specific - then that's perfectly acceptable? However, if that is the case, then you need to be honest about that fact in the end and not just say "Hey guys, there's no headroom in these cards". Various other reviews on YT are grabbing different results than your demonstration. Sorry, man - I'm just telling you what's out there on YT already. Also - X1 is made BY that team FOR that card. Don't be ridiculous. You'd be stupid not to use the software for which the card was actually intended.
@@FrameChasers Not to mention - @19:56 - You say, "Once these Apps and Drivers get updated so you can actually increase that mystery sensor by 7%..." - How can you say any of that when you didn't stick with the software that card was designed to use? It's just unbelievable that your knowledge of electronics is incredibly detailed, but your troubleshooting methods are sub-par. Jesus, I mean just for consistency, do the same tests within X1 and compare? It doesn't make sense not to do that, man. Just to further re-enforce your findings. @20:52 - "The overclocking apps aren't ready" - Same thing here - how can they not be ready if X1 is designed for this and you've neglected to use it. And as a lasting point - you say we're not going to be able to push these any further until we get better overclocking applications, but those percentages are already pre-determined? What should have been discussed is the opportunity for upcoming custom BIOS sets that allow for higher power targets.
Rane I used X1, I said that in the video already, you can move the power slider in X1 as well but it will never go above 100%. The wierd thing is GPU-Z will ready 330-350watts regardless of the slider is moved or not. But anyway it doesnt matter I have a successful shunt mod now so I don’t need the power slider to be fixed
@@FrameChasers man you shouldnt have done that. youtube has a 2x speed button so you didn't really need to do anything, i couldn't understand what you were saying
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I'm not really into this hardcore overclocking but, this is some really interesting content dude...new sub
You getting better and better every single day, like damnn 💪
what is the thickness of the thermalpads I need to use above the vrams, and the other parts that need thermalpads?
Thanks for this vid not many ppl covered this
The fast voice could've just stopped when the tedious disassembly was over, thank you for being conscious of the time limit though. imo
I really enjoyed the vid though. Thank you
YOU ARE A LEGEND MAN , thanks for your hard work ....
this is becoming my favorite youtube channel
Two questions (I have the exact same model):
1. Did the temps dropped after replacing the thermal paste? Mine reaches 78-80°, is it too much? (but has the warranty sticker so i cant teardown and change thermal paste :c )
2. I use only one cable from the psu to the card (it splits in 2 cables with 6+2pins each), should I use two separate cables? Any vantage? thank you and sorry for my bad English
I just watched to make sure I didn’t miss any screws on my XC3 Black Gaming. Turns out I didn’t, the thermal pads just were like super glue. Twisting didn’t seem to work well for me.
Ended up heating the radiator with a 1kW hair dryer for some time to get it separated. Had it in an itx case with no room to breathe, so water cooling was my only solution.
I am curious about what kind temps you were getting before the repaste?
So are those 3 color coded headers for each of the 3 fans? What about that 5 pin connector across from them, below the power connectors?
CDKing oh I didn’t track where the connectors went, il have to check for you next time I take the card apart tonight
you are the only person show me the PCB of EVGA xc3 :) thank you. I'm looking forward to your stock temperature review ( not 100% fan curve )
Word!! I dont care about modding or overclocking, I just want to unplug those stupid LEDs lol
Is polishing actually safe for the heatsink and cooling?
Can you please explain which resistors to shunt for a 3080TI XC3 Ultra? Sounds like if I want to just get a stable boost clock and not hit the power limit constantly, I'd do the 5 shunts by the PCI 8-pin connectors. Also did you use your superglue method for this shunt mod?
Just here steady catching up on older content.
How often do you need to reapply flitz polish? I did that on my cpu like 3 years ago, and it definitely lost some shine. If I reapply it, hopefully it'll also help with the thermals.
This was super helpful, keep it up!
hello! how thick are those memory thermal pads? Would you say they were 2,5mm or 2mm?? Thanks!
So what numbers were the overclock?
Speaking of disassembly: do you reckon that red "lip" thing on the back is easy to take off/put back on? Thinking of painting it (if I ever get my hands on this card). Thanks!
Tomcat56th I was actually going to paint mine for a video, thanks for reminding me! Yep disassembly is easy
If you ask EVGA you can get other color options free I've read anyway and jeystwocents said same thing
Does the backplate hinder cooling in any way since it doesn't have thermal pads?
Hey on your 3090 xc3 video you said that on this card you used 2mm pads to replace the thermal foam. But I noticed here that you are saying you're using 1mm pads. Which one is the right thickness I should get?
those strange thermal pad/foam are also used on many notebooks for gddr5/6 cooling.
what kind of stock temps were you getting stock? fans 100%. EVGA is telling me the fact that my gpu hotspot according to HWinfo64 is 101c is normal. core temps are like 91c. just trying to get some info before i need RMA
Can you please Deshroud the Card for mesurring for Dual Slot ITX Builds if its fit ?
The only way to see if your mod works is to actually use a watt meter connected before PSU, and measure power before and after.
Great video though, I was able to get this exact card today from Amazon replacing 2080, will have waterblock on it eventually.
The firmware doesn't fix the powerlimit bug, I tried the firmware update last night when they dropped the new Precision X1. I asked for help on their forums and no response from them. As it is my card is limited to 320-330w which is crazy low.
Yep same, that power slider/bug is definitely linked to something else and not the board power draw
My friend, did you have or do you have crashing problems with this card? I bought the same one and it will arrive in a few days, the point is that there are many users reporting failures in various models ... I would be very grateful if you would confirm this question.
Miguel Moreno no crashing
thanks my friend, your answer is a relief, great video ... greetings from Chile.
Is there a waterblock for this card?
Have you deshrouded the gpu? I’m curious if it’s flat to allow a few 120m fans to be attached to it. I know some gpus have metal clips that might get in the way.
It doesnt allow deshroud mod since ir has pieces of metal where the shroud is on.
No midplate? That's a bummer. Was hoping to pair it with an Accelero 3.
Hi there this is a pretty good video, I was wondering if you were able to show what the heatsink looked like without the shroud as I am hoping to put this card in my Ncase M1As well as if you would be able to measure the width of the card without the shroud as well
damn you really arent getting any sleep, didnt expect the follow up video that soon
Oh boy I have waited for this!!!
I heard that the best way to get more performance with these cards is undervolting them lol
Yep seems like it, I’m testing that now, anything over 1v and the card gets way too hot for any meaningful clock increase
Maybe a late answer, sorry about that, but I can tell you that by undervolting these EVGA cards you're getting pretty nice results
I run mine at 1950Mhz@906mV and VRAM OC @1300Mhz, deshrouded the card and with decent cooling you'll keep it below 80°C
The card won't run into the power limit and the frequency is pretty damn consistent
@@toctoc9927 My result for 3080 xc3 ultra, 1935Mhz @ 875mV, or 1950Mhz @ 880mV passed.
I tried climbing higher in frequency, with a lower curve for the voltage.
2080Mhz @ 975Mv for 75 °c) because of the unsuitable cooling block! To put under a WATERCOOL waterblock for a higher and fresher climb
Any chance you can do some early temperature scaling. Basically blast some AC or cold outdoor air (if available) and see what the % change in average core clock is at say 50c vs 80c. I have a pretty good custom loop that kept my 1080 Ti below 40c in all but summertime. I gained about 125-150mhz OC over air OC at 80c. Used a modded BIOS as well. Didn't get higher clocks, but it kept them stable. TBH, this is probably the realistic the "ideal" scenario for the 3080/3090. At this point, it looks like the 3090 KPE HC is going to be the only card to get >20% FPS increase over the 3080... which is a big sad (likely going to cost $2500).
Did you inhale a shit ton of helium at 3 minutes?
Joking. Subscribed!!¥
I think i will wait for a better bios. Don´t have performance problems right now anyway.
Hey man, great content! Got my sub that's for sure. I'm curious to see some of the actual FPS numbers, and noise levels (stock & OC) - to compare with other results from other AIB benchmarks & how they all compare to FE - hoping that's gonna be in your next video with RT benchmarks. Got one of these XC3 Ultras on pre-order, want to know if I made a good choice. Cheers!
@ If you are asking if I got the card, yes I did in November, about 4 weeks after launch. I am in Europe.
vOP = Voltage Over Protection, possibly?
Great vid glad I found the channel today the 26th, subbed of course...
slowed it down to 0.75 hahaha
For Kryonaut loud...
omg you win the internet
Have you seen leaks about shunted 3090 gaining around 6-7% in performance at 550W graphics card power draw?
I'd assume it would be similar for 3080.
VRel = reliability voltage, Vop = operating voltage. I get that on my 2080ti sometimes with 380w bios. Its when it wants to draw more power but the voltage is already maxed at the temp its at. (according to the bios curve) . Looking forward to seeing liquid metal!
test vram usage and allocation at 1440p and 4k
what did you even do? Took it apart to just put it together again?
Yep pretty much, hahaha. The shunts are still in place though
2X8 pin PCIE power cable Wattage limitation? surely with the shunt and if the factory board power is above reference, then wouldnt you very quickly run into the maximum spec for the 2x8? i didnt get to see your power draw so i am unsure how far away you were, great video as always! making these Ampere gpus worth talking about!
The power supply itself doesn’t limit the spec of how much power can be pulled from it, that’s why when you shunt the previous gen cards you can hit 500 watts one two 8 pins, it’s just a spec but it doesn’t have to be followed
@@FrameChasers ah ok, thanks for the clarification!
Amazing shit dude love it. Was originally looking for a disassembly of this card cus I wanted to replace thermal paste, and you had that and some really interesting entertaining stuff on top! Never heard of shunting cards so this was really cool.
I usually hit 80c max load and have decent airflow and was thinking replacing thermal paste might help
The sticker for non US buyers. It's enforceable everywhere else.
This early? You madman!
TecLab did it! 3080 overclocked at 2310 MHz.
Yeah I don’t see anything about a shunt mod when I looked into it, purely just a temperature drop clockspeed increase?
It does boost much better with 100% fan soeed
@@FrameChasers Ok I'm completly idiot when talking about advanced overclocking, but they used a bunch of cables on the back of the card. What are they for?
AAAALVINNNNN!!!!!!!!!!!!11
like the mouse
send it so he can overclock it for you cool video
Thanks for the video! I have the exact same card and am too much of a pussy to tear it down without seeing someone else do it first lol. Is the copper cold plate just a cold plate or is it a vapor chamber? Cause I'm pretty sure the FTW3 has a vapor chamber so I was curious if the xc3 had one too.
good question, I will have to get back to you next time I tear it down
wait costco sells fries??
In Canada!
Nice pants
Gamers nexus had a 900w bios...
You're a madman, get some sleep lmao
Too expensive to get that experimental with a card like that.
I skipped your video like 5 times because your thumbnail shows a founders edition. Why not use the card you are actually tearing down?
Seems to me that the GPU itself has a power limit built in. Maybe we will get a "A" chip later from Nvidia that allows higher power draw.
Watched your video again. Is the voltage limit 0.962v? Seems a bit low. VOP error can be max operating voltage.
They obviously wanted to limit the power draw. then charge extra for the cards with higher boost clock speeds
No I can manually lock the voltage in afterburner up to 1.1v, that’s not it
NVidia afraid of RDNA2?
Try Liquid Metal 😅
I do not know if this helps you and/or if it auto subbed, but the main thing that it is saying, that the memory runs at 104 C and throttels at 110 C. That ist with the FE but I would think this could be the case here?
th-cam.com/video/_SO2b_VIOXI/w-d-xo.html
nice video :=)
Tf would you get an EVGA card for and then use AB? The card is specifically meant for Precision X1? Other people are getting +115 core and +800 Mem easily O_O
You shouldn’t talk unless you have one, precision X1 doesn’t work either, my card goes upto 2070mhz and +1250ram anyway, it doesn’t mean it’s not power limited to 320 watts anyway and the power slider doesn’t work
@@FrameChasers Mine comes in Wednesday - so I'll do my own tests. There are also multiple videos of people already OC-ing XC3 Ultra's and they're hitting board power values of 350 watts+
I'm not sure why you're getting different results, what your benching looks like, or what your test setup looks like - but something seems off if other people are getting the exact same card and having quite different results.
Additionally, if you want to chalk that up to Silicone Lottery for YOUR card in specific - then that's perfectly acceptable? However, if that is the case, then you need to be honest about that fact in the end and not just say "Hey guys, there's no headroom in these cards". Various other reviews on YT are grabbing different results than your demonstration. Sorry, man - I'm just telling you what's out there on YT already.
Also - X1 is made BY that team FOR that card. Don't be ridiculous. You'd be stupid not to use the software for which the card was actually intended.
@@FrameChasers Not to mention - @19:56 - You say, "Once these Apps and Drivers get updated so you can actually increase that mystery sensor by 7%..." - How can you say any of that when you didn't stick with the software that card was designed to use? It's just unbelievable that your knowledge of electronics is incredibly detailed, but your troubleshooting methods are sub-par. Jesus, I mean just for consistency, do the same tests within X1 and compare? It doesn't make sense not to do that, man. Just to further re-enforce your findings.
@20:52 - "The overclocking apps aren't ready" - Same thing here - how can they not be ready if X1 is designed for this and you've neglected to use it.
And as a lasting point - you say we're not going to be able to push these any further until we get better overclocking applications, but those percentages are already pre-determined? What should have been discussed is the opportunity for upcoming custom BIOS sets that allow for higher power targets.
Rane I used X1, I said that in the video already, you can move the power slider in X1 as well but it will never go above 100%. The wierd thing is GPU-Z will ready 330-350watts regardless of the slider is moved or not. But anyway it doesnt matter I have a successful shunt mod now so I don’t need the power slider to be fixed
@@FrameChasers I'm seeing different OC results across YT - but, sure man, whatever floats your boat - if you're happy, I'm happy for ya :)
why does the voice keep changing its annoying
i prefer 2080 ti over the 3080 :O
That’s a stupid statement.the 3080 is cheaper and faster.unless you have a 2080ti already that statement is foolish
Useless.
why did you distort your voice like that? it sounds stupid
Would been 50 minutes long if I didn’t speed it up 2X
@@FrameChasers man you shouldnt have done that. youtube has a 2x speed button so you didn't really need to do anything, i couldn't understand what you were saying