IS THE NEW 2023 VESPA GTS 300 MADE FOR LONG TRIPS? WATCH BEFORE BUYING!
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 6 ก.ค. 2023
- Today, in my 4700 km trip to Interlaken, Switzerland, I wanted to give you my answer to this very interesting question about the GranTurismo Sport Vespa 300 2023. Is it really that Grand Turismo as Piaggio says it is, or not? Here's my experience after riding almost 5000 in 12 days.
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I couldn't disagree more. I recently rode to Interlaken from northern UK with ease. In fact I'd say with it's luggage carrying capacity and the ability to change riding positions as the minor aches start, it's almost the perfect touring machine. I covered 640kms in one day, and allowing 10 minutes to stretch the legs at fuel stops, I arrived at my destination in reasonably good shape and ready for the next day's riding.
As I said in my other comments, if you do 12 hours pe day, for 3 days, it's not made for that. If do you 300-400kms per day, it works. For me after 400km it gets very bad.
@@arancioimpulsivo Surely every bike is uncomfortable after doing that sort of mileage? That sort of mileage is outside of what would be called normal usage for any bike. I'm not sure it's fair to criticise something if it's being used in such circumstances.
Completely agree with you
Any motorbike can be taken on long trips but for me modern Vespas are the best motorbikes for city use and local canyons.
When on fast freeways and long two wheel trips I want my machine purring with ease with tons of horsepower to spare.
your fatigue level would have been slightly better if you had done 4700km in 12 days on sports touring bike. welldone
Here in the Philippines, our vespa group made a lot of long rides, the longest ride was almost 1600 kms. We just made a habit of stopping for gas every 100kms to rest both scooters and ourselves. In my opinion, vespa is one of the most reliable scooters out in the market.
"Travel the destination, but enjoy the journey!" Ride safe always!
Nice! Ride safe my friend from Philippines!
I use a burgman 400 2023 here in the Philippines
I live in Manchester in the UK and I have to deal with city traffic but within 15 minutes I can be in the countryside. My GTS handles both situations superbly. I can go for hours and days in the countryside no problem, I love it.
Awesome!
After about 12 different large capacity motorbikes I yesterday traded for a 300gts, and today I rode it further in one hit than any of my motorcycles. So yeah I think it works for doing some distance just don’t expect to go all that fast 😅
Same here, had 3 bikes, one of witch was a bmw f850gs adventure, the gts is more comfortable than the BMW. Yes, with speed I agree!
I rode mine across the USA in a scooter cannonball and over Baja in Mexico as well as all over creation. I’ve already put some miles on my 300 GTS HPE and I have to tell you, this is an INCREDIBLE bike for long road trips. The gas mileage and speed alone makes this bike ideal. The carrying capacity and versatility makes this bike a dream long ride bike.
That is awesome!
Over the last 12 years I have toured many times on a Vespa 300 GTS. I have had no problem and carry enough lugage for as long as I want to go away, also two up. I had big bikes in the 1990’s and yes you can travel at 150 mph if you want to lose your licence but the GTS is more economical, more comfotable and gives me all the riding pleasure I need. It also looks good and not like it was put together by a blind man using a box of spare parts.
Agree! Love the GTS!
Great bike (vehicle above all) capabilities to ride on highways is a bonus but the whole point and intention of Piaggio is to produce capable urban cruiser which is fast enough frugal enough comfortable enough and practical enough let alone beautiful (more than) enough :)
So instead driving car across cities in miles long lines u can drive vespa, you don’t have to pay expensive city parking lots and at the same time to walk for miles to sit at your favorite cafe. Cheap maintenance, cheap license fees… not to mention the ride in style with extremely high feel good factor :)
Enjoy it cheers:)
Agreed!
I think you would enjoy it on long trips more with the smaller windshield. With that large one you have, surely it was fighting you with every bit of wind in the mountains. You definitely need one half that size. They only need to be large enough to divert the wind over your helmet. The one you have is a bit like running across a field with a large door in your hands!
It's true, it takes a bit out of the pleasures of riding a bike.. having this huge windscreen.
Are you kidding me? I'm sorry i'm not trying to be rude a small windshield You would feel a lot of wind. I use a large windscreen and it's very quiet and I have no issues. Whatsoever on my suzuki bergman four hundred
@@arancioimpulsivoA large windshield is way better than a small windshield. A small windshield you can get a lot of buffeting Over the helmet and very noisy on the expressway. It's almost excruciating. I use a huge windshield on my Bergman four hundred and I have no issues whatsoever a small windshield is a nightmare
Beautiful!
Thank you! Cheers!
Riding motorcycles from 1970 90cc to 1400cc got a gts300 hpe during lock down its the perfect machine for longer trips and is great as I have back problems
Keep on riding!
I hurt somewhere after awhile on all the bikes I’ve ever owned , I have a 2019 GTS 300 that I bought about six weeks ago , only 168 miles since registered , the stock suspension and that almost sat bolt upright position killed my back so I upgraded the suspension immediately and it has radically changed the bike in every aspect .
What brand?
@@arancioimpulsivo Bitubo 😁👍🛵
Good discussion here on the comments, both pro and con on the issue. I'm new to the scooter life so I have no idea as to the capability to go real long. Here in the States, there's an annual CanonBall tour from the west coast to the east..basically a cross country event. From what I understand it's all about the ride. And plenty people go cross country on the Vespa itself just to get to the starting point of the event. Anyway, I'm looking to get my skill level up there so I can ride to the office some day. It would only be 75 miles and a couple of hours tops. BTW, great backdrop and scenery.
Awesome, you should do it! :) Thanks!
For me, a car is about the destination but a maxi scoot is about the journey. Even my Piaggio Beverly 400 is tiring by the end of a ride, so it’s the best for enjoying the ride itself and not really caring about the end of the ride. If my goal is to enjoy the destination, something more comfortable is a better idea, so I’m fresh to enjoy the place I’m going to. To me that’s just sort of inherent in a motorcycle/scoot vs a car…
Agreed! :)
I agree. I have a Liberty 150 by Piaggio. I haul it on a hitch rack. I like riding IN interesting places but I don't like riding TO places. Sore for days after long rides.
Well said!
I had a VW T4 van and a 150cc Honda scooter 20 years ago. I parked the scooter in the van and rode 1200km to Italy, took the scooter out and visited Rome, Florence, Sienna etc etc. Also rode all over the French Riviera. I used the van to sleep in, it was parked on a camping. I can see where you’re coming from so in your case I think a van would be great. I however found it too cumbersome and ‘upgraded’ to travelling by maxiscooter and staying in hotels. I currently have a Beverly 350.
Awesome! I bought a van now and will try to do as many interesting cities as possible.
Traveling long distances at higher speeds with the windscreen installed probably was exhausting. Depending on the direction of the wind you could be fighting to keep control of the scooter the entire trip. This is why the owners manual states that you remove the windscreen when you plan on traveling at higher speeds.
Good point!
It's true, but it would be much better having the wind screen installed if you're going on a very long ride. It prevents the wind crashing to your body which makes you less tired in the long run.
That's totally false. I use a tall windscreen and I love it on my birdman. Four hundred no issues whatsoever, and it's much better with sound and when buffeting not an issue on my bergman four hundred
@@getmedc Why are you being rude? I was just stating to use a bigger windshield to keep the bugs out. And wind has nothing to do with scooter you use
Hiden from channel. Don't worry about the noise.@@jasontomica8938
I would have done a voice over if this were my video rather than subtitles but hey, your video.
I've had my 2019 300 hpe supertech for a few years, and you can absolutely ride as far as you like. It would be more comfortable if it had a cruise system at speed, but if there is traffic I just match their pace.
On a long trip the only gripe I have as a 6'1" rider, is the seat hump that denotes the area for the pillion, a flat unsculpted seat would have been better, so as a rider you can move back and forth to vary leg angle more for comfort. I find on a long run I move back to switch up my position and hit the edge of the pillion section which causes a little discomfort if I stay there, so then have to keep moving about to find the best area - I should really find a flat seat replacement!
Also, the big screen is great, but not if you're tall, it keeps the wind off your chest and throws it in you face, causing increased buffeting and extra noise. If you can get an extender for the top of the screen that is enough to get that air over your head (or you fit behind it) it then becomes amazingly comfortable and a lot quieter at speed. I hate the look of them so it isn't installed, but if I plan a tour, it's going on!
This is a very capable machine and good quality, the geometry and wheel size give a beautifully judged blend of agility and stability, the standard Michelin tyres are superb and I would only get the same again. It is fun!
As for the extra price of the supertech, it's good to have all the stats on the connected app (very detailed stats!) of all your rides are stored and I love the navigation element too, it means my phone can be safely out the way and it's a tidy interface. If you don't want to pay the new price for the flagship, buy a well cared for used one and save. 👌🏻
My lifetime MPG average is 71.4. That's UK riding, mostly faster roads as I live in a rural location.
The only way I'm changing from this vespa is when an electric one comes along that will do the same miles per charge and that can charge at full single phase power (7.4kwh in the UK). It would make it even smoother and worth the upgrade, but not until then. I thoroughly recommend it to anyone.
Cool, enjoy my friend
I love long rides on my GTS 🥰 It's quite addictive. Every World or Euro Days we drive there by Vespa from half way the Netherlands. To Belfast, Zanka, Mantova, San Tropez, Interlaken and this april to Pontedera We really love it! Maybe it's not made for long distance traveling but we dont have any problems with that 😁🥰
So cool!
I agree with you. I have three bikes, all chosen for specific uses. A larger BMW adventure for… adventure and visiting cafes 😅.
An older 300GTS because of, well, it’s a Vespa and I love riding it but not too far and not too fast. The Vespa should be enjoyed as a fine wine.
I recently bought an ADV350 as my commuter. The Vespa and I don’t enjoy highway driving during rush hour.
Well said!
I use the GTs300 for long journeys in UK 👍. Ive ridden PX200 long distance but the 300 is 100times better with speed and comfort ...The pX is my town scooter
Nice 👍
I have a BMW C400x and I do city commute as well as weekends touring with a passenger I have a top box. My girlfriend owned this model and in town it was fine but the crappie country roads in Australia caused some issues potholes and everything.
Interesting choice!
Greetings from Los Angeles, I love my 2023 GTS, I do hate the fact that it has a small gas tank and it has kept me from taking longer trips, having said that and after seeing and reading many who have taken long trips on their vespas, I’m planing a trip from LA to San Francisco via the Pacific coast highway, finding gas stations shouldn’t be a problem, the California coastline is beautiful so the adventure awaits me. I still wish it had a larger tank. 😅
Nice! Enjoy your Vespa my friend!
I am so excited to comment on this. I actually drove my new vespa 2023 (with passenger) from Rotterdam trough the eifel and black forest through bern and thunsersee brienzersee grimselpas nuefenenpas, lugano, como over the majolapas past st moritz and fluelapas to davos and all the way back to the netherlands via Lindau at bodensee. I own two ducati's next to this scooter. And they will probably be sold. I drive it a lot around the city as well. very easy to handle.
do you use a top case? it is great for the passenger. Not for looks, but i think it is even pretty with it on! I have the small windscreen but thinking of changing it for the big screen. Is it oke with wind gusts?
I plan to get a topcase for my daily, the Sei Giorni. The big screen it's amazing for very cold weather and longer trips.
keep the small wind screen.
Hi, beautiful roads and places!!
Could you share more details? I don't know this places of Switzerland but i would try to go with my old but gold, Beverly 300 (m.y. 2014)
Thanks!
I think this is the road from St. Moriz to Interlaken, don't really know the name of the pass for sure.
@@arancioimpulsivo Thanks, i will "study" for sure!
A trip like this one in the video is definitively what i need.
It does seem to handle the steep terrain well. I am worried a 50cc while lighter, may not be enough. There are no mtns in Quebec but it is very hilly and I will have to use rural roads between towns.
If you can get a 125-150 it's much better than the 50.
Nice video. As you compare your van with your bike quite often: Isn't it kind of the experience to be tired at the end of a long bike journey? I mean, one could always just take a car, it's always more comfortable.
True, but if doing longer distances 4000-5000km, it kinda takes away from the fun of traveling, at least for me. I think the best combo for me is to get a van, travel to a nice pass, enjoy for 2-3 hours, get back in the van, and continue.
Hello, I'm from Germany, I've been riding different motorcycles for over ten years, I've always wanted to get a Vespa GTS. What can I tell you? About three weeks ago I watched videos again of people driving Vespas, then I found your video. I have now ordered a Vespa GTS in orange 300 ccm. You convinced me to buy a Vespa. Thanks for that. I'm totally hot and excited when I can pick up mine.
I recommend buying an Ohlins suspension (for front and rear) for the best comfort.
Haha, amazing my friend! Enjoy your new Vespa!
I've ridden my GTS 300 from the UK to Azerbaijan with a slight detour (1000 miles the wrong way) to Cyprus.
An ideal lightweight tourer.
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Im planning to get the gts300 2023 next month! Im traveling around 115km per hour for 25 minutes to work and 25 minutes back! What’s your opinion for trips like that?
I have the gts300 2023....and like other Vespas, is not really fun to drive fast above 110kmh. I live in Switzerland, Highway there is limited to 120kmh. I drove several times on the highway with my new Vespa, but to be honest, i can't go faster then 120kmh on the screen( real speed maybe 110kmh).... The Vespa isn't very well build for windy conditions and mine start wobbling about 120kmh, i didn't feel save then. My maximum speed on Tacho was 134kmh....i could go even faster, but the bike against the wind is horrible and feel insecure.....but for all other conditions, vespa is a really burner, damn fast and strong...and of course beautiful 🤩
@@Antischall I think im going to rent one before buying one 😂
@@valentinosfilippou9053 that's sure a good approach to meet a new bike. If you like drive fast and very fast, the Vespa isn't the right machine for you. If you drive often in city and in rural areas the vespa is very good for you. It's really very fun to drive with a Vespa GTS 300.
@@Antischall i used to drive very fast when i was younger! Now I want something smooth and easy! Im only doing 60-70 km of motorway to work but im only going to use the vespa ones a week for that! So I think its going to be just fine! 🫡
It's perfect! I also advise you to get the large windscreen. The max speed it does is around 130km/h, so it can do 115km/h very well.
great video, did you get the van?
Yes, got it, went to GREECE with it last year, planning to go to Italy/South of France in a few weeks! More videos to come!
@@arancioimpulsivo show us how you fit the bike on the van, also if you sleep on it, etc etc :)
I am a biker but really like Vespa I wanna get myself one
You should, it's a great scooter!
Buy an Ohlins suspension (front and rear), this will significantly add comfort on long rides.
Interesting, but very expensive :)
Agree. Vespa suspension components are vey marginal. YSS makes some nice replacements that aren’t as expensive as the Öhlins.
People travel around the world with regular bicycle,of course you can travel long distance with Vespa.
Yes.
Not on a bicycle with 12" wheels though
I agree. Whenever I ride my vespa I imagine walking/cycling the same route and distance. Ahhh luxury...
@@philipk9783Except you get there twenty times quicker on the vespa
like for the scenery! So from the video it's not really clear why you are tired after the ride...
Haha!
PS: the idea of trailering to a place is a good one, but make sure it’s convenient. Eg it’s not a pain to load and unload the scoot, makes the vehicle hard to handle, drink gas etc. If it’s a hassle you’ll find yourself not wanting to do it. Some of the trailers make it easy so just shop around and get the most convenient one….
True. My plan is to buy a van and have the scooter inside the van, with a ramp, so it's easier vs a trailer.
Dieagree, it is rider dependend.
I made also lots of longer trips with my GTS, even day trips over 500 km, No matter.
300-400km works good. Try doing 1000 per day.
@@arancioimpulsivo hard if you are riding with group. My longest daytrip was alone over 500 km from Primosten CRO back home to GRAZ, starting 5 a.m. and arriving austrian border at sharp noon, for sure on the motorway, fueling up latest every 140 km. For sure no enjoyable ride on the motorway.
Ich bin 45 Jahre grosse Touren mit grossen Motorrädern gefahren und kann sagen die Vespa 300 jetzt ist wunderbar für grosse lange Touren
Great!
Riding the GTS is about the journey not a chase to a destination.. if you feel the need to get somewhere faster you are not touring.. I love my GTS .. I use it for long rides broken up to enjoy the journey it gets me places no van can.. The journey is the reward .. I cannot say it tires me out .. rushing to holiday destination I my car tires me
In our case we were o group of 5 and we did not have 30 days to do a trip from Bucharest to Interlaken :)
There are people who traveled all of Europe, Africa, and the Americas on these. Tens of thousands of miles on rough terrain and weather and they held up fine. Vespa's are more reliable than any car.
Remember, they are made for fun, practicality, and ease of use. So ride how you feel, not until you hit a certain mile.
Well said!
What about oil consumption mate ?
It depends on how you ride
I must say your reservations about open road riding seem odd since I have a much smaller Piaggio 125 which likes to go 95kph on open road. But haven't ridden a 300 Vespa in fairness. Thanks.
Interesting!
The 2023 model's seat feels hard. How is it riding for 300km? Does your butt start to hurt?
Hm.. I had no problem, but I am a bit over weight, so maybe that's why haha :))
People tour amazing distances on all sorts of motorcycles/scooters from 50cc upwards. It's about managing expectations , the latter comes with experience. It is an absolute cliche to relegate, as is the fashion, small motorcycles/scooters to "the city".
True!
The wind destroyed your audio on this. Invest in a wind guard for all your mics. Cheers
Thanks!
If you're only riding 50-60 km/h then yes, it'll take you all day to travel 200km 🙂
We rode close to 3500kms, average speed 90-100km/h.
No problem whatswhoever.. Its just fun.. As I see your Video, you carry way too much luggage.. Everything you need fits in the helmet-compartment, unless you hate hotels.. 400km per day is no issue at all.. I did trips around Europe for more then 10 years, and I never had any issues.. If you are tired after 200km its your problem, because you are a lazy couchpotatoe..Bringing a Vespa in a Van is really being a jerk.. If I would need a Van to bring my Vespa to a nice place for a holiday, I would stop driving motorbikes..
😅
So far, every video title that starts with "watch this before..." has been tantamount to useless.
Haha!
Take the shiled off for long trips
Will do next time!