Vespa Oil Change & First Service (GTS 300 HPE)
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- Just did the first service on my Vespa GTS 300 HPE.
This is the "break-in service" at 1,000 km (620 miles).
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You can follow along in this video or use the *chapter links below* to jump right to the part you are interested in.
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I've included torque specs, and specifications for fluids, etc. Also, there is the full Service Schedule at the end of the video that shows the service items for this break-in service as well as the 10,000 km service, 20,000 km service, etc.
This was my first time servicing a Vespa, so if you see any errors or omissions let me know! I'm not a professional mechanic, just a rider that occasionally tinkers. You'll want to have a authorized dealer do any work you have questions about and the maintenance necessary to maintain your warranty.
Robot at Scooter West is the "OG" of vespa mechanics, so check out his videos too. Scooter West is also a great resource for parts and tools! You'll find his videos here:
/ vespamotorsport
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Chapter Quick Links:
0:00 Intro & Service Schedule
2:02 Oil type and tools
2:17 Beautiful toes
2:47 Checking engine oil level
5:14 Checking rear hub oil level
6:30 Draining engine oil & inspecting gaskets
10:21 Inspecting oil strainer
13:16 Installing new oil filter
14:30 Installing oil strainer
15:44 Installing oil drain bolt (24mm, 24-30 Nm)
16:56 Oil Capacity (engine & rear hub)
17:49 Measuring how much oil came out
18:13 Adding fresh engine oil (1.3L, 5W40, MA/MA2, full synthetic)
21:55 Final torque on oil filter
23:27 Checking the level after filling
23:54 View inside the dipstick hole
24:40 Starting the engine after adding new oil
25:16 Checking brakes and safety fasteners
26:00 New engine oil level check
27:32 Hub oil change intro -accessing drain bolt (6mm allen)
28:55 Making a funnel to keep the wheel clean
29:40 Draining the rear hub oil
31:39 Inspecting the copper crush washer
33:10 Installing the drain bolt (6mm allen, 16.9 Nm)
33:17 Adding fresh gear oil to rear hub (250ml, 80W90, GL4, gear oil)
36:59 Air filter housing drain/check bulb
37:52 Checking coolant level (T25 torx bolt)
39:04 Oil level after test ride, final amount (I added a total of 1.25L)
39:30 Coolant top-off
40:07 Type of coolant to use
41:33 Checking brake fluid levels
42:07 Throttle and electrical system
42:25 Conclusion - view the Scheduled Maintenance Table
No Talking , just video. Other then that, great info video. Thank you for posting. Cheers.
I would recommend always adding a few drops of oil to any O-Ring you use, so you don't "Rope" the O-Rings when you install them. Nice video, well done and quite informative.
On my GTS300 insted of removing the hub bolt and dealing with custom funnels to prevent oil on the tire and rotor. I used a big syringe of 300cc and a 5mm plastic tube. Super easy and no mess 👍 With this method I was able to extract 225cc from the hub at first service. Same amount I replaced with new 80W-90 GL4 Oil.
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The engineer who decided to switch the dipstick to the side with the exhaust should have his fingers singed daily
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Another excellent video. Simple, straightforward depiction of the fluid and filter change.
I’ll soon be doing this on my GTS and ET4.
This is high level ASMR material- I’m buzzed listening
Very well-explained video with great video quality and the camera is always pointing right. Thank you! 👍
This was really well done and very helpful. Thank you from the UK.
I just bought a 2022 GTS 300 touring, never ridden any type of motorcycle or scooter before glad I came across your channel. Thank you
Congratulations and welcome aboard! I wish you many happy miles.
red is the right colour dude great choice
Thanks for showing us the oil change and given us a bit of an experience .just got a new Vespa so it all new to me .thanks Graham / uk
Great video, thanks for your work.
I wish you a lot of fun with your Vespa GTS.
Best wishes from Bavaria, Germany.
Thank you!
this vid is immensely helpful - thank you so much. I'm coming up to 600 miles now.
Thank you, well described procedures, and kudos on the self made splash guard made from empty oil container 👍
Thank you!
Helpful video. I got my Vespa HPE super tech in Oct, 2022. I just completed the first service in local dealer side because of free charge. Seems the dealer's workman did not conduct the coolant check as it should be. Thanks to the video. I need to double check that. Thanks from China.
Vesparados.. LOL Nice. Great video. I'm making notes to do my first service on the wife and my 300's. Thank you!
Great overview , explanation and video view points .
EXCELLENT.
10/10.
PERFECT.
WELL done.
Thank You.
Thank you for sharing. I have a 2022 gts 300 and appreciate your knowledge.
Top job, well recorded, thank you
Great Vid!!! Picking up my new GTS300 on Tuesday, but I love to see how things work. I will let the dealer do the 600 (just so the can inspect initial break-in bolts and torques), after that I will do everything you covered myself. I'm use to German and US engineering, with fluid drains on the bottom which makes the process much easier.
Have fun!
One other observation. At my age, I’m no longer enthralled laying on the concrete. I sold my motorcycle lift table swearing no more DIY maintenance.
I need to remember that.
I did a little bit more rolling around on the floor than is generally necessary. If I wasn’t trying to film it and keep my head close to the microphone on the camera, I might have done things a little bit differently! 😂 But yes, rolling around on the garage floor gets less attractive with each passing year.
beautiful bike, thank you for sharing this!
Glad you like it!
Great video, very informative. Very nice scooter, love the colour.
Great vid. The first time I took my dipstick out at 14 miles it broke off! Its a long story but I bought an aftermarket better quality dip stick, I had to take it into the garage to get the broken peice out and I had a sump fitted with a sight glass. As is stated in this video, you are suposed to check the oil before every trip and the HPE is ruputed to use oil. I have now done 1900 miles and I haven't found this to be true but I don't hammer it even when touring. I have found however that the site glass is priceless as I can see every time before I ride what level the oil is. This is my third GTS and I have had big bikes but I love my GTS, it is so effective and versatile.
I see an oil pan with a sight glass in my future too. So far mine has not been using oil as far as I can tell. Like you I’ve heard other people say that they tend to use oil. I’ve also heard other people say that they broke the dipstick off trying to get it in or out. What a pain! Glad you got that all worked out and you are now enjoying the bike!
Good overview of dealing with the HPE's first service, DIY-style (even though I'm letting my dealer do the heavy lifting for the first few services). One *big* change I made was swapping out the oil pan to an aftermarket model, which is essentially the very same oil pan Piaggio makes, but with a sight-glass installed, which makes checking the oil level a LOT less of an ordeal. Worth its weight in gold, as far as I'm concerned.
I agree. That’s on my list for the next service. The combination of the small oil capacity and the dipstick placement makes a sight glass doubly valuable in my opinion! Obviously you need to be on flat ground, but do you find it easy to read?
@@flatgrindrides Sight glass is almost ridiculously easy to take a quick read of. Of course, almost *anything* would be easier than the stock setup. ;-)
I ordered that as well! My first service is being done at the end of May and will
be swapping it out
Great video man. I want an orange Vespa, not sure if I want a 150 primavera or yours. It’s so beautiful looking.
Thanks for the video my friend 👍
Excellent Video!! Thank you!!
You're on a roll (not a cimminon or toot-tootsy roll either!!) Good angles and explanations. Chapter markers. Good editing. You gonna give Mitch a run for his money!!!!
(FYI that how my son used to say cinnamon). The little platform scissor jacks are pretty good and compact for this job. Can get 'em off Amazon for about $80.
I tried my motorcycle lift from Harbor Freight and it works, but the little scissor jack (recommended by Robot) is better for the scooter.
I just got back from the local bike shop and purchased the same oil you did. Got my O-rings, but I'm gonna reuse the crush washer in the rear.
Liked that drain funnel from the oil container...that's easy/practical. Thanks for the ideas. Good editing again!!!!
P.S. Enjoy seeing you in the Scooter Tag!!!!!
Thank you! I’m not planning many more maintenance videos at this point, but I thought it might be useful to others to record my first service. That oil bottle funnel worked out pretty well for a hack on the fly. A real lift might spoil me too much! I’ve been enjoying the scooter tag. For anyone else reading this, there is a scooter tag forum thread on the adventure rider website. It’s like a photo scavenger hunt that a bunch of us are playing with scooters. Willa Jabir got me playing. Check it out.
Really useful video thanks
Good video, I’m currently shopping, trying to make up my mind on which color I want. That orange is growing on me and would be appropriate as I live in Tennessee.
Sounds like you really can’t go wrong with orange 😉
Dine my 23 SS yesterday as well, no oil consumption during breakin at all. Get you one of the long skinny accordion type funnel and you can simply drop in in from the top with the pet carrier out. All that modifying a funnel stuff is silly. I drained on the side stand and rocked it over the same :) neat clean quick and easy. Loving it !!
Duh! Of course. That’s a great idea to come in from the top with a long funnel. 👍
Thanks!
Just a tip: If you want to re-use a copper crush washer, heat it up with a torch and let it cool down slow...It makes the copper soft and it will crush it bettter for a second use . Do not cool down in water fast because you do make it harder.
This bike is gorgeous I don't say it because I have it 😂😂😂😂
Don't give up your full time job.bit late ordering new washer now you'll have drop oil again 😂😂😂😂😂unbelievable
Have the same Vespa. I had the workshop put on a new oil pan with a sight glass. Makes oil checks so much easier. Hate that dipstick.
Yep. I’ve been thinking about doing that too. 👍
So interested to see the YT videos of flatgrind's GTS. At age 80 now, I reminisce over pictures my Vespa GS. It was top of the line when I bought it new in 1962, for $500. It made10.5 HP at 6500
RPM from 160 cc, and had a cruising speed of 65 mph. I had it for a summer before a dog ran under the front wheel, knocked me down, and my parents took it away and gave me a car.
If you have saved the photos and still reminisce, it sounds like you were quite fond of it. Did you ever get another bike?
@@flatgrindrides
The GS was my second Vespa, in college, after having a new 125 Vespa sold as a Sears Allstate Cruisaire in high school. I saved the photos of both.
My next bike was not until 1966 in grad school. I bought a new BMW R27 250cc at the factory in Munich and rode airhead BMWs for the next 50 years.
@@vintage42 That’s good. I would’ve been a little bit sad if you had said that that had been your only bike, and you were still thinking fondly of it after all these years. It sounds like you’ve had your fair share of good bikes 👍
Nice video, thanks! How do you keep the engine bay and bottom so clean? Mine, a 300GTS Super Sport in Blu Vivace will have the 1000km service at the dealer next week. They also need to change the legshield trim which was a little torn when new and replace the petrol gauge as it never worked! Curious in which state I’ll get it back.
It doesn't rain much here this time of year, so mine has only been in the rain once! It also "lives" in a garage, so it is out of the elements. Good luck with your repairs!
Hi again, I've been watching your first service with interest since it's only recently that I carried out the same on my scooter. Even though mine is 5 years old it only had 114 miles on it when nI purchased it. The warranty wasn't an issue for me because of it's age so doing my own service a no brainer and I enjoy doing the work. Have you decided to sacrifice the warranty in order to produce videos? Regarding the dipstick for the gearbox, in the manual for my 2016 125ie super it
Apologies for that,. touchscreen phones!
The point I was trying to make is to be wary of the year and engine to be certain that correct level of oil for gerabox. Great video
Thank you. That’s a good point. The dipstick marks can be confusing too! Here in the states as long as the work is done on a timely basis and with the correct materials the warranty should not be an issue. There’s no requirement to have a factory service center perform the work.
Hello friend vespisti! I am the owner of a vespa gts 300 hpe like yours! Here in Europe we take our bikes to the authorized dealer to perform the scheduled maintenance at least for the warranty years otherwise we lose the warranty. Additionally, the dealer is going to fill in the online piaggio service warranty system after each service so if we want to sell the scooter in the future, the new owner will know for sure that all the scheduled services have been done. How come this is not the case in your country?? All the best!
The general rule here is that for a manufacturers warranty covering part defects or assembly defects on a new vehicle, as long as the work is done properly and in a timely manner using the correct parts it doesn’t matter who does the work. Just a different set of rules I suppose. There are people here who would have to drive 600 to 700 km just to get to the closest authorized service center! Generally speaking, the rules here prohibit the manufacturer from adding warranty terms that require future purchases from them or their affiliates. For example your car has a 30,000 mile warranty but only if you have your service done here and buy parts from us. motorcycleridernews.com/archives/4211. I’m not particularly concerned about the warranty issue but as long as the work is done properly and documented it should be OK.
Aluminium foil might help with hub oil
do you drive your vespa as your daily vehicle? i’m having car problems and storage aside, i’m really interested in committing to a vespa for my daily for 40mi commute (round trip) to work + errand runs!
Right now, yes, the Vespa and my motorcycle are my main rides. I work from home so no daily commute, just runs to the grocery store and such. It works great for me and my situation, but can’t say for you. Something you’ll have to figure out based on your needs. Good luck!
nice job. i have one the same,red,300 ,2020. from the u k ,
Thanks mate!
Hi , well done. But how do you get rid of the wrench light or service light?
Thank you. I don't know. I don't have a wrench or service light! I wonder if they are programmed differently in Europe and the US?
Doesn’t doing this service (or any scheduled service) yourself void the warranty? I’m like you in having little faith in dealers doing a proper job and would much rather do it myself. I’m in Australia if that makes any difference. Thanks for the video btw.
I can’t answer that. Here in the US they cannot require you can do the work yourself but you must document that all of the correct work was done with the correct materials.
consumer.ftc.gov/articles/auto-warranties-service-contracts#Important
Great Video! I am afraid that the hub oil chance may be too difficult to some engineers of the Vespa dealers? I wander why Vespa has designed that so!
It seems much simpler to make the fill hole the same as the correct level. Who knows?!
Man I just got an HPE and I’m really weirded out by the headlight during night riding. How has you experience been? Just a lot of shadows in the light beam for me.
I haven’t really ridden at night yet. I’ll have to go for a ride and see what mine looks like.
Can I ask do the U.S. spec side markers front and rear light up or just reflectors? I think the red rear ones would look pretty trick lit up at night.
I’ll have to double check, but they look like just reflectors. Maybe an opportunity for some aftermarket innovation!
So synthetic oil right away is okay? It used to be a motor needed broken in well before switching to synth.... times change I know, so I guess Im asking are you sure this is good as to new thinking?
This is a subject of great debate. I am nothing close to an expert. If you want to explore this issue, I would suggest searching an online forum like Bob is the oil guy:
bobistheoilguy.com/forums/threads/conventional-or-synthetic-for-break-in.357339/
I did what I did, and I am not making an argument, one way or another.
I could see how one might want to use a break-in oil for a longer interval. I also wouldn’t be surprised if I had taken it to my dealer they would’ve used whatever standard synthetic they’re using for their normal fills! For me, I was comfortable being conscientious about varying the RPMs, and engine load in that first 600 miles or so, and then going straight to a high-quality synthetic oil that meets the specs. YMMV.
I'm doing the same thing this weekend. Just passed the 600 mile mark.
Nice! Wishing you many more happy miles.
@@flatgrindrides Finished mine this weekend I'm really glad you had mentioned the coolant because mine was almost bone dry. I also noticed my hub casing is the same which makes me believe it's probably how the mould is. Also, you can buy 150ml syringes on Amazon for like $6 which makes it really easy to add the gear oil.
@@TylerAldrich The syringe is a good idea. I’m surprised that your hub casing was the same. When I picked mine up from the dealer, I noticed it and asked him. They looked at another one they had in the shop and it did not have that flaw so we figured it was just a one-off. I guess it’s more common than that, but it’s purely aesthetic. I’m not worried about it causing any issues. Glad you’re all topped off and ready to roll! Enjoy!
Oh wow you have to do an oil change every 600 miles? Crazy
No, the first service is scheduled at 1000 km which is just over 600 miles. After the first service, the service interval is every 10,000 km.
Hello, on my Vespa 300 gts 2018, my rear brake lever hardened to the maximum, official service tells me that it is the ABS Module, here in Argentina it is not available (Argentina it is what it is), where can I get it online? I'm having a hard time finding it. Do you have any suggestion?
Thank you so much
I wish I could offer a solution, but I don’t know. One option would be to order from here in the USA but the shipping is so expensive now. Have you made an inquiry with Vespa Argentina?
www.vespaoficial.com.ar/contacto/
Those colored dots, and Torque witness marks.
Wow. No oil burning. These engines are known for that. Maybe you got a good one! Typically they burn a ton of it before the 600mi service
I got lucky I guess, because I’ve had almost none.
Your Vespa's color, they call it Orange Tramonto in my home country (indonesia)
Here they call it arancio impulsivo or impulsive orange in English. Where are you from in Indonesia? Are Vespas popular there? I was there years ago but I only remember seeing Hondas 😉
Would love see him riding scooter 😂😂if anything like his services Lol😂😂😂
Question: Why didn't you have the Shop do your first service on your VESPA GTS 300?
I wanted to get acquainted with the bike, and honestly I don't have a lot of trust in the dealer service departments. When I picked up the bike from the dealer the traction control had not been calibrated, the warning light was on and the coolant was a little low. That kind of attention to detail bothers me. I guess you could say that I sleep better at night knowing that things have been done the way I expect. That said, I may have the shop do one of the upcoming service intervals, put it on the scanner, etc.
@@flatgrindrides the same thing with me. I only go to the shop because waranty. I don't have trust with them since they skip some crucial things last time, and many of them didn't read the maintenance schedual at all... I live in Europe.
MA/MA2 for wet clutch, for scooter use MB
Yeah, I talk about that in a different video but in this video I decided to stick with the manufacturers specifications. I didn’t want to confuse people and have them putting oil in that might void their warranty.
Links for the tools and oil/filter?
I’ve bought things at various places, but if you are here in the USA, you might consider ordering from Scooter West. I’m not affiliated with them in any way, but they put out a lot of good Vespa content so it might be nice to support them.
Very professionally done but that’s not a flaw in the casting by the hub oil dipstick. I don’t know the correct terminology but the belt cover had a tab as part of the original cast to aid in removing it from the sand after the cast and what you’re seeing is the remnants of that tab which was snapped off after the cover was removed from the mold. All new GTS’s look like yours in that spot.
Interesting, this is good to know, thank you. I assumed it was a flaw because when I asked my dealer he said the other bikes did not have the rough area where the tab is broken off. He didn't have another bike on the floor, so I didn't have anything to compare it to, I just went on what he said. It is not a big deal, but it does seem weird to have a rough spot like that on a bike that has such a "design" focus. It feels like a flaw or a missed detail.
@@flatgrindrides, I agree that 10 seconds spent at the factory with a grinder would make that area look nicer. My '22 GTS has the same imperfection which is why I asked my dealer about it. He had a couple GTS's in stock at the time and they were all that way.
Back front should took drain plug out before removing filter very weird 😮
Stick screwdriver through bottle get better flow 😮
It says to inspect the “safety blocks” on the first service. What are they?
The “safety fasteners “ - all the key fasteners on the bike that if loose could present an immediate danger. Suspension, steering, brakes, etc.
@@flatgrindrides Did you check them yourself?
@@Pete_or_Peter4Long yes
@@flatgrindrides Did any of them need adjusted?
@@Pete_or_Peter4Long nope
Did you check the brake fluids also? I’m guessing what you did was all that’s really needed.
The only check I did on the brake fluid was looking at it through the indicator windows to check the level. I’ve owned the bike for just under one month, so I’m not concerned about contamination or break down over time. I also did a visual inspection of the rotors and brake pads and of course I know how they operate from a month of riding.
@@flatgrindrides It’s not even to save the money but I think I trust myself to do the fluid changes more then the Vespa tech at my local dealer. Not to say he would mess it up just they get paid to get it done fast. I’ve done my own oil changes on a pre hpe gts and it’s practically the same. Only issue I ever had was I over tightened the oil filter and was leaking.
@@Pete_or_Peter4Long I hear you. When you read the online forums for motorcycles, cars, scooters etc. it seems that there are plenty of dealer service horror stories. I suspect a lot of people sleep better knowing that work they did themselves was done right. That said, there are plenty of dealers doing a good job with service too. I would rather ride than wrench, but I also want to have a reasonable sense of the condition of my bike and be satisfied that maintenance is being done properly.
@@Pete_or_Peter4Long I understand the DIY attitude as well as the mistakes doing it yourself. About 40 years ago I had an oil filter gasket stick to the bike and didn't look at it, I just installed the new filter. 10 miles down the road it started to drip. I felt really dumb once I took off the new filter and saw 2 gaskets.
@@Scootphoria Would you feel comfortable adjusting the valves when the time comes or flushing the coolant and brake fluids?
Righty tighty 😂
Take bottom pannel off when start making hard work of simple job 😮
wow, somehow you've made this simple operation feel complex and wrought with doom
Glad I could be of service! 😂
It's important that oil meets JASO MA2 standard, because it defines characteristics which are very important for catalyst converter and its function. If you are not planing to keep stock exhaust it's ok, but with wrong oil, catalyst convertor will not last long.
This is an interesting point. I was thinking that they should’ve specified MB oil because there is not a wet clutch and MB would likely provide better wear performance and efficiency, but I didn’t think about emissions and catalytic converters.
If the additives in JASO MA oils will damage the catalytic converter, I wonder why they specify it in the manual? My manual lists both MA and MA2. Oil specifications can be so confusing. I’m guessing most people pay no attention to them at all!
Would you be willing to help me with mine? I am aware thats a big ask from a total stranger, but I do need to get it done soon and dont want to ruin anything, also i think it would be fun to meet up and ride together some day.
I totally get it, and do not take it personally, if you're not ok with that.
I don't know if I'd be much help, but yeah, sure. The only catch is timing. I'm about to leave town for a bit. Send me an email at flatgrind.rides@gmail.com and we'll talk.
Without the period in the name I assume?
Oil change on the side stand ... you habe a lot of rest old oil in the engine. When you make a Video then you must doing right
Did you see me tilt the bike in the opposite direction to drain it? That got more oil out than would have come out on the stand, level. As I say in the video, it took a total of 1.25L to refill to the “full” mark on the dipstick. The manual say the capacity is 1.3L, that would mean I there was 0.05L left in the engine. If you find this unsatisfactory, what do you recommend that might be better?
@@flatgrindrides ooh sorry , i this not see
@@andreasolah454 No worries! It’s near the end after I take it on a test ride and measure of the level again. First time I’ve ever worked on a Vespa, so I am always open to criticism and tips!
@@flatgrindrides great video ,what brand coolant you use? I order my vespa 300 the same color of yours.Can't wait.
@@tinddu Nice! Hope you enjoy it! I don’t remember which one it was but it was one of the Peak brand coolants that met the specifications for this bike and was available at the local auto parts store.
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I have zero faith in the side stand I have seen them fall off it. Mine will be going directly into the scrap pile the second it gets home
Nobody uses GLOVES anymore, steel toed shoes , or ANY SHOES.. ??? DID ANYBODY ever pull an oil dipstick on a 350 chevy with HEADERS ??? HOT HOT HOT .. Buy some damned gloves.... 🤣😂🤣😂
I have gloves. I wear them when I want to. I don’t wear them when I’m using a camera. It’s easier to clean my hands than it is to put on and take off gloves continuously while operating a camera. But you enjoy your gloves. I hope Santa brings you some more ! 😂
If the manual says 1.3L it's mean 1300ml. So, you put 1L and 100ml so you short 200ml that's why on your deep stick the oil mark is low.
Patience is required to change the oil in thisscooter. It is more complex than changing oil in a 18 wheeler.
😂
Thanks!