LOGITECH G7 WHEEL CENTERING ISSUE FIX
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 28 พ.ย. 2016
- NOTE: Opening your wheel will automatically void any warranty you may have so consider this carefully before attempting!
This is a possible fix. I am not claiming that this is your particular issue but it's worth looking into. I am not to be held responsible for any damages you incur.
Hello everyone, In this video, you will learn how to open up your Logitech G27 wheel and tighten optical sensor mounting screws and inspect the plastic optical ring disk for cracks.
These to issues are the most common with many owners. I will also show you my configuration settings and my dead zone settings. Dead Zone settings are important to have fine-tuned to have your wheel perform correctly for the games you play and may have to be adjusted on a case by case basis.
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👉LEGACY SOFTWARE and DXTWEEK SOFTWARE👇
drive.google.com/drive/folder...
Download and unzip the folder.
unplug your wheel, pedals, and shifter until prompted to reconnect
uninstall your current Logitech software before running this one.
**If you ever have to unistall the legacy software or if it updates to wrong version, before you reinstall you need to clean your PC registry of residule files.
I use Glary Soft.
www.glarysoft.com/
Contact Logitech Support if this video did not solve your issue
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Business Office. 4700 NW Camas Meadows Drive.
Camas, WA 98607.
+1 360-817-1200
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7 years later and still helping me figure out what was wrong and how to fix! greatly appreciated man thankyou!!
So I just turned my G27 inside out realizing this solution was for another issue. But thanks for making me do something technical for the first time in my life.
Sloth Guru
It's always a great day when I can help someone learn something and go outside of their comfort zone successfully.
Thanks very much for watching and for the awesome compliment 😊
3 years later you still helped me keep up the good work 👍👍
Thank you for watching and for the very uplifting comment. I appreciate it very much 😊 👍
For my calibrating problems DXTweak was the perfect solution. Thank you very, very much!
Everyone kept saying that my issue was the cracked encoder, And I took it apart and it wasn't cracked. But thanks to you mentioning those loose screws under it, you saved my wheel. Those screws were loose. I tightened them and now the wheel is perfect again. Thank you so much!
mikeyRavens52
I'm thrilled to know that I can help! I really appreciate you watching and for the comment. Thank you very much!
Thank you so much for this video! One screw was already fixed and the other one I did not even tighten a quarter turn. So my expectations were pretty low that it would work. But it was a nice surprise that the steering wheel worked normally after the procedure and still does after a few hours with DiRT Rally. An interesting detail was that my part with the sensor was mirror-turned compared to yours, but the principle worked anyway.
Cheers, have a great weekend and thank you once again!
you are very welcome and thank you for the great comment! I'm thrilled it worked.
If everything remains tight and the wheels still goes off center in the future look in my description and download DX tweak application that I have there. Use it to fine tune.
Thanks for this video. Always good to see how it comes apart before trying. Yup my rotary encoder mount screw was loose, 2.5 turns!
Josh Endo
You are very welcome Josh! Glad I could help you 😁
Thanks very much for watching and for the compliment 😊
Very very helpful, thanks so much!
Very clear and easy to follow, stopped my from having to buy a new $400 wheel!
Thanks so much!
you're very welcome! I'm glad I could help you fix your problems and save you money too! Thanks very much for watching and for the great comment 😊 👍
Thank you Sir, for the help! I had to tighten a screw and bend the sensor a little, but it was a smooth repair thanks to your tutorial. Now my wheel is good as new!
I'm always thrilled when I can help. Thank you for your kindness 😊👍
Fixed! Its been exactly one month since it broke. I purchased an optical encoder piece that took 2-3 weeks to arrive then snapped it and then I quickly got another one and finally fixed it! Thank you for the help and god bless youtube
That's awesome news! I'm glad you're back in business and I'm honored I could help. 😊👍
That wheel looks mighty familiar! Thank you so much! 😄 We've also had opportunity to open it up. Actually, not the wheel, but rather, the gear shifter.
I used a very thin model making glue which draws itself into gaps by capilary action to fix the crack in the disc and a thicker contact adhesive on the shaft after refitting the disc. Thank you Eustace. An informative and very easy video to follow. Another G27 saved from destruction.
NTS-autoparts skelmersdale
you are very welcome 😊 I'm glad you got it sorted out. Thanks very much for watching and for the nice comment.
NTS-autoparts skelmersdale
if you still have a slight alignment problem here's some legacy configuration software. it will do the trick for sure.
drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B9OBlJza5PRkbHVKS1BIX3B1OEU
Thank you very much my dear friend. U saved my steering wheel :)
Łukasz Horecki
Thanks very much for the wonderful compliment! I'm glad I could help you! 😁
Thank you very much for this video, your clear instructions and your precious tips!
You're very welcome and it's my pleasure 😊 👍 Thank you for the kind words and for watching.
That's a very enlightening video. Thank you ATomic 67. My g25's screws got loose, I fix it easily thanks to the video
Your very welcome and I'm glad I could help you 😊👍
Well as one of the racers who doesn't see the point of Farmig simulator.....(but then I didn't see the point of trainsims until a friend gifted me one a few years back, so I could be wrong, but well I've got relatives who are farmers so no need to simulate it. ;) ) let me thank you for that helpful video.
It did help me fix my G27, when I just had both of the issues, loose Optical encoder and a partially broken encoder wheel.
I'm thinking about getting one of the brass replacements for it, as it's past Warranty (german 2 years one) anyway and I don't want it to fracture again, I want a bit more use out of it.
Well bought it used at an absolute bargain price, around 130€ (hadn't had that issue back then) two years ago , when I wasn't sure if I'd stay in Simracing or not. And let's say I've been enjoying it a lot, the G29 is a bit meh, more buttons on the wheel but you have to buy the shifter extra, and well... the Thrustmasters cost a bit more.......
LupusAries
Lol 😂, I didn't see the point in a Farming Simulator either until I decided one day to watch some game play footage. I was very surprised at the level of detail in the game and it was a launching point that opened my imagination. Watch some of my videos and you will see I use the game to tell all kinds of stories. Look at my Dusty Cove and West Coast play lists for the best examples 😊. Farmers as you well know do not drive a tractor and combine around 365 days a year. I like to tell stories about the everyday life aside from farming as well as farming.
Thanks very much for watching and for your comment. I appreciate it it and glad I could help you ☺️
@@Atomic67G As a kid growing up on a farm, i played over 2k hours of farming simulator in total (2012, 2009, 2013, 17, 19) I always liked tractors and farming equipment, bring my frend to my house and he was playing just farming, with no intrest in tractors before
omg this finally worked. Took like 3 hours to do (did it very carefully) an it works. Can`t thank you enough
You won't be getting any grief from this racer haha! Excellent tutorial, was really glad to see those screws loose and nothing cracked.
One thing worth noting that I noticed while disassembling my wheel is that the black optical sensor cover was the other way around compared to yours for some reason. The little arrow which you can see on it, as well as the red cable, were more towards the main board. I don't know whether this is a European thing on my end or some assembly line screw up, but taking off that black cover got me a little worried. But I unscrewed the main board to give myself some space and started lifting it with a flathead from under the side which the arrow pointed to and voila! it all went well.
Again, thanks for a clear tutorial!
Thank you very much for the compliments and for watching. I'm thrilled I could help you. Wheel and pedal sets are so expensive. We have to keep the "vintage" equipment chugging along as long as we can.😊👍
It's my second G27 and I FINALLY REPAIRED THIS FUCKING ISSUE ! THANK YOU MAN, you da real mvp
you're very welcome and I'm thrilled I could be of help 😊👍
Man you just saved me 400 bucks. Thanks for everything, works like a charm. Pushed a like as big as your hands!
Thank you very much for the like and for the great comment 😊 👍.
Glad I could be of help to you!
Thanks for making this video! mine was cracked, it looks like the encoder wheel was manufactured as 2 pieces and they were glued or fused together? My encoder apparatus was mounted backwards from the video so the screws were accessible, I took them off, super glued the encoder wheel and held it together with a vise grip (lightly)... reinstalled it after it dryed. AND IT WORKS GREAT NOW!
That's wonderful that you got it working! Thank you for the comment 😊 👍!
Thanks alot man, this helped me fix the problem!
You're very welcome 😊 👍
Great vid, helped me a ton with taking apart and putting the wheel back together safely. Thank you for documenting your experience.
For me it turned out that the screws were loose and the ring was cracked, tried superglue-ing it together, did not seem to work (although I thought I did a good job), so I ended up ordering a brass replacement for the ring.
The part was a bit too tight, so I had to use fine sandpaper to install it. And guess what: the wheel was still not centered. :'(
I then used the DXTweak2 file you so kindly shared and I saw how value and raw arrows for the Wheel axis were off-centered when meeting in the middle. Can't remember what buttons I pressed in that software, but it then re-calibrated the two arrows and fixed my wheel.
Now, I have no idea if the screw tightening and the new brass ring were really necessary, but I have a fixed G27 now. I've had this since 2011 and I hope to have it for just as many years to come now :))
I'm thrilled you got some help from my video. Don't feel bad about the ring. You would need it eventually so it was smart to do it now.
I appreciate you watching and for your comment 😊 👍
@Jon Falkenburg cmlaserservice.com/index.html
Panicked a bit as they didn't give me any email after ordering this and it took a while to get any kind of feedback, but I got a notice from my postal services one day, went to pick it up and there it was, packaged just as the site said
Thanks man, you really helped me with this.
JonathanGJM
you're very welcome Jon and thanks for watching 😊
Thanks for this video. I'll attempt the repair myself as I got the same problem on my G27. Love your accent and laughter by the way :D
Alfredo Cassano Hey Alfred thanks so much for watching and for the compliment 😊 I didn't know I had an accent lol. Best of luck with the repairs ☺️
are you from around NY?
Thankyou for this man. Love your laugh & general good humour - put me in a more positive mood today.I'll get round to fixing my wheel soon (honest).
8-)
Ibanezav you are very welcome and thank you also for your awesome comment and for watching 😃!
Is it fixed ? xD Cheers
@@WinstonSmith.74 Yea was just joking, have a nice day mate.
Sweet thanks this is a life saver. good work.
you're very welcome 😊 👍
Excellent work on the video! It has helped me out tremendously to fix my wheel. It was indeed the optical disk. However, during calibration, it doesn't go the full 900 degrees, it stops at 450, then the green light on the shifter blinks and it stops attempting calibration. Any suggestions? It feels like a "hard" lock almost. not something I could get past by pushing.
Thank you very much for watching and for the compliment.
Regarding getting the full 900°,
1. you need to have a clean copy of the legacy profile software installed.
2. unplug wheel and uninstall your current profile software.
3. Run Glary soft registry cleaner
4. install legacy software and follow prompts during install as to when you need to plug wheel back in.
5. If wheel is not perfectly centered after this then install DX TWEAK software which let's you manually align wheel.
I have provided all software links in the description of this video and can be downloaded from my Google drive.
Hope this helps you 😊👍
i know its been a while but this was the nicest way someone explain how to do something, thanks, turns out my optical board its broken, i think im gonna buy a new wheel xD
Thank you so much for such a wonderful comment!
Well a new wheel sounds like an exciting upgrade!
May I suggest that you get the thrustmaster leather edition and the shifter bundle.
I find it much more reliable and better quality than Logitech.
@@Atomic67G aight thanks for the advice 🖤
Love your laugh! Subscribed!
GK_2012
Lol 😂 thanks very much for watching and for subscribing!
Yes, I'm a jolly ol elf. Glad my laugh doesn't annoy you 🙂
Eustace Pharmer Keep it on and make awsome videos!
Thank you! Very useful
Даанчег йа
you're very welcome! Glad I could help :)
Great video! However I found that apart from the offcenter thing I also had the rotary wheel cracked. I glued it together also with a washer to make it more ffb resistant. However when starting it up the power indicator is flickering and the top bar is red and yellow after a unsuccessful start-up calibration. Any ideas?
if it won't calibrate then either you didn't repair the disk properly or you just need to re calibrate. I included a link to my Google drive and it contains the legacy software and a copy of DX Tweek. Use them both to recalibrate and recenter.
Let me know how it goes 😉👍
Thanks very much for watching!
I have a g29 and I bumped my shoulder into it and now when the week is in the center the car goes a little to the right, I only found calibration fix videos on g27 , will this fix work for me ? I think it might be just some lose screws because the steering wheel kinda moves back and forth too it's gotten a little lose it didn't move back and forth before
amed lak
Sorry for late reply. I was on vacation for a week. G27 calibration will not work for G29. G29 has built in calibration software suite you use. 😊
Thanks very much for watching and for the question.
Nice video. I wish this was up about 6 months ago when I had to strip my G27. I had dust on the sensor the wheel would start to calibrate then quit. Once I cleaned it the wheel was back to normal.
Mike
Reefy1952
Thanks very much for watching Mike. I have to say they Logitech really has a serious design flaw regarding optical sensor and internals. They make a metal wheel wrapped in leather but use plastic moving parts inside? The G29 is the same way. I wonder what Logitech will do with the Farming Simulator wheel kit now that they bought Saitek. Probably keep it the same and raise the price, lol.
That's the million dollar question. The Saitek Farming Wheel has serious quality issue from what I've read and seen on TH-cam. Many have stated they are on their second and third sets due to them breaking after only a few weeks/months of use. So I would hope that Logitech improves the design. But yea, I'm sure the price will go up.
I'm really shocked to hear of the design flaws in the G27 and up. I've used Logitech gear in flight sim for years and have had my G27 kit for about two years and all is rock solid (knocking on wood).
So far I've not encountered an issue with this sensor. But I'll certainly know where to look for a solution if things go south. Thanks Eustace for recording this video.
you're very welcome Jerry and I will say G27 is leaps and bounds better than the G29 predecessor. I have a G29 and it sits broken on my shelf. there was a bad design flaw in the G29 when it calibrates it calibrates quite violently and there is a wiring connection inside that breaks and it's extremely hard to detect because the wiring breaks within its insulation so you can't see anything visibly you have to literally take the unit apart and use a test light to find what connections are not active. Logitech says nothing about it and continues to sell the scrap metal wheel - business as usual.
I saw you have the sensitivity at 200%. Does that make the wheel on the game respond more than the input you give on the real wheel? I have also changed the deadzone down as at the default it was like turning the wheel 1/8th of a rotation before the in game wheel would do anything.
Aaron Klein Hi Aaron, thanks very much for watching and for the question. Yes, I find having sensitivity up high on everything makes it more responsive. I do that especially with the mouse so I can turn my head faster. Regarding the wheel turning, try your dead zones at 10%. Seems to be a nice sweet spot for me.
Mine only does this when I'm really racing hard and swinging on the wheel.. if I drive carefully the wheel stays calibrated correctly in the middle.
My wheel will also calibrate perfectly every time when I unplug the USB and plug back in.
I've also noticed my vibration doesn't work with dirt 2.0
G27 is a good old girl that just needs some delicate care in her old age 😁
Thanks very much for watching and for your comment 😊
Atomic67 G absolutely! Have had mine for 5 years now, bought it brand new. It’s just now doing this in iracing.
hey, bought an used g27 today and i have the same issue as you, could you fix it? how?
Matt B omg same! My vibration isn’t working with FH4!
Atomic67 G my brand new G920 has this problem...
Amazing thank you 🙏🏻
you're very welcome and thank you for the comment 😊
Had an issue last year once or twice where after awhile the wheel would be kicked right by about 3 degrees. Went away and thought nothing of it until last night after 3 wheel reconnects it was recurring. Opened it up for the first time in its life (The wheel base, that is) and sure enough the encoder head was SO LOOSE i had a bitch of a time getting the plug and dust cover off the motor and encoder bay. I DID end up stripping a wheel yoke screw (one of the long, course threaded suckers, luckily) that'll bite me in the ass later i'm sure. but it's together and works great. Thanks, Eustace!
Jared Morgan
You are so welcome and sorry you had a rough go of it.
If that screw gives you trouble you can use a tap set and gently extract it. Retread the hole and put new screw. Let's hope you don't have to 😊
Push come to shove I MAY be able to loosen it with a pair of pliers and buy a replacement screw. But we'll see if it gets to that, I figure the FFB will fail by that time. MOMO lasted 8 years of light service, G27 is on year 3 of hard service
when I replaced it I pluged to the computer but it cannot calibrate it just turns like 45 degrees and stops please if you know how to fix it reply
I have those problem and when I go to the part behind the mother board where you have to take the clip of of the working harness I am having a extremely hard time getting it off any suggestions
Mach_ChickenGaming
The only suggestion I can give you is to just gently wiggle it loose with a couple micro screw drivers. Just take your time. It will come off.
Menn i have one problem with my wheel he does not rotation but pedal and h shifter have does not problem?
I can't say for sure because I would need to be sitting there but I would try unplugging the wheel shifter and pedals and then plugging them in again.
The USB port just might be stuck
Hey man can you please answer. So i have the logitech g25 and this doesnt even spin at the beginning and doesnt work but the shifter and every button and everything works exept the wheel
I can't tell you for certain unless I was sitting in front of the unit. Itcould be a number of things.
G25 is a very old wheel. You could have outdated software and drivers for the wheel.
The USB for the wheel could be bad or the board in the wheel could be failing.
Hi, Atomic67 or Eustace - I have a G27 that has worked fine for several years. I had to move my racing setup and I think I unplugged the wheel USB while it was live, as you mention somewhere.
Now, despite tightening the screws on the motors and sensor holder it is improved but I cannot get rid of about 10 degrees of a dead area at the centre. It makes it much harder to drive with and unfortunately racing shows my previous lap times to rub it in!
I have tried removing the existing driver and installing the legacy one from your Drive and have tried just about every combination of adjustment and calibration in racing and the Logitech software, to no avail.
I can see the wheel making fine movements in the iracing dashboard and when calibrating, so I infer it is working correctly as far as the sensor goes, and assume it is something to do with the driver (software, not me!).
Any further ideas or should I call Logitech and hope they support an old product?
Hello to you as well.
Your issue can be easily fixed. I provided a link in the description to a folder on my Google drive. It contains the legacy software and it also contains a program called DXTweek.
Uninstall your software. Use a registry cleaner to remove residual files.
Restart PC
Install the legacy software from my drive as well as DX Tweek.
Use DX Tweek to re-center your wheel 😊👍
@@Atomic67G thanks! I'll have another shot at uninstalling the drivers and reinstalling from your Drive. I hadn't used DX Tweek yet.
Thanks again : )
Make sure you use a registry cleaner software before you install the software.
I recommend Glarysoft or Norton Utilities.
Man... You rock!!!
I have a G25 and yesterday have exactly same issue.
Some Litlle diferences with yours G27 but in The end its The same.
Excelent vídeo m8!!!!
And thanks a lot
You are very welcome and I'm thrilled I could be some help to you! Thank you for the fantastic comment and I appreciate you watching the video! 😊👍
@@Atomic67G 😞 after 45m ok back to same... Led flashing again and Cant stearing...
Ideas?
Unplug the wheel from outlet and unplug the USB.
uninstall the software. Then use Glarysoft registry cleaner to remove residual config files.
Restart your computer.
reinstall the software.
Follow software prompts as to when to plug your wheel back in.
Make sure in the software that you do not have auto update active nor should you have automatic game settings search active.
If those steps don't fix your problem then it's possible that you have a bad sensor or broken wire in the USB cable either at the attachment point to the circuit board or the wiring inside the cable covering it damaged at some point.
I don't know what county you live in but you can find an electronics repair shop that would diagnose and repair the problem. It may cost you anywhere from $50- $100 but that's alot cheaper than a new wheel.
You can also take it to a technical school in your area and let the students fix it. That's usually free.
Let me know how you make out.
link to Glarysoft registry cleaner is in the description of this video 😊
@@Atomic67G tks m8
I Will try it and after ill give you some feedback
@@Atomic67G i just remember... Instead unistaling all that and cleaning registry i Will Turn it on on another PC (laptop)
But i think thats something fisical..
Prob a bad contact..
After try ill say something
Ps. im From Portugal
;)
thanks for the help.
Scott Sakaguchi
you're very welcome Scott. I truly hope I was actually some help, lol. Thanks for watching and for the comment.
I bent that infrared sensor littlebit closer to that plastic wheel, that fixed calibration issue for me. First i bent it too much and whole wheel didn't work, then i bent it littlebit back and everything was working and no calibration issues after 20hrs of use.
I cant get the black cover off at all any help?
Hi i need help my g27 have cracked optical encoder so i go to ebay and bay a new optical encoder and tuday its came th my home and i but it in my g27 and now its not working its move the wheel 3 tims ltel by litle
Mahdi ALmiskeen
it sounds like you didn't line up the optical sensor properly.
Hi i have driving force GT and i got the same problem. Could that work for mine wheel too?
it most certainly could work. I can't say for certain as I don't own one but it's worth a shot.
Oh my! Today I started having problems again with the center of the wheel after not being used for about a week or so. This happened before and I had to get it to change in a local shop I thought that it had been fixed permanently. Today I opened the wheel and to my surprise the encoder wasn't cracked but I glued a Washer just in case as I saw on other videos. in my country Argentina the metal encoder is around 50 to 60 bucks which is a a lot so I'm wondering how I can fix it cheaply, when you said we could glue the piece together to the motor, which kind of glue would you suggest?
Bautista Prea
Hi Bautista, just to let you know glue is a very very temporary fix and you might get glue on the optical sensor. You can remove that cracked component and look up a local business that does 3d printing. They can replicate a new one and it does not cost very much at all.
Eustace Pharmer thank you for the quick response. The problem is that in Argentina 3D printing is very primitive yet and expensive too. What I'm I think I'm going to do is to the temporary fix the best I can and when I go to the US buy the metal one which I think it's expensive to. To be fair I have so many problems with my Logitech G27 wheel that I think I'm spending more money on repairing it then if I bought a new one. On the other hand I don't think I can make much money by selling it (150 to 200 Max) and as I am thinking of buying a new PC Plus repairing this wheel I will not have enough money to buy maybe thrustmaster wheel or similar. Logitech has not been kind to me!!
Regards
Eustace Pharmer Either way I just got my license(17) so I'm not sure if I'll still die to play racing games in the future!
Anyways living in the US makes things much simpler, regarding prices, warramty and finding replacements!
Regards
Bautista Prea
Welcome to America my friend 😊 I wish you all the best success and thank you very much for watching.
Perfect!
ive seen that a brass replacement encoder can be purchased online. either a 30 slot or 60 slot wheel. is there a method to determine which encoder is inside the G27 without opening it up? i dont have the box it came in as i bought my wheel second hand.
Lucien Petersen
The piece you are talking about is the same across all G27 wheels but to be honest, you have to order that piece from someplace in Asia. Not only does it take like 3 weeks to get but I don't think I trust some dude taking my money hoping he will deliver, lol.
Lucien Petersen
you can remove the piece yourself and look up online for a local tool and dye maker they can make you a piece in your local area and it will be far less expensive and you can have it most likely in a couple of days
you can also call at company that has a 3D printer and you can make one out of plastic and they can do that in 10 minutes
Eustace Pharmer i believe from Thailand yes. USD38 with shipping. they have TH-cam vids showing how they turn the ring out of brass then laser cut the slots. Does anyone else out there know how to determine which optical encoder is inside the g27 without opening it? fyi - I'm in Cape Town. in case anyone sells it locally....
Eustace Pharmer ok. so bottom line is - roll up sleeves and pass the Phillips head...
Lucien Petersen
you have to open the wheel anyway so you can determine if yours is even broken and if it is you have to remove it and replace it so you may as well just open it up
I have a problem with the thrust master tmx where I plug it in correctly, it calibrates fine, but then there is no ffb, vibration, resistance, or self cantering... been trying to figure this out for over a year
go to the thrustmaster website and download the latest firmware. I know there's been an update because I just bought the thrustmaster leather edition and shifter.
Atomic67 G do I still need to do this even if I’m on Xbox one?
@@jacksondevries6180
I would say on console it's plug and play so I suspect certain features like what you are talking about may not be supported for console.
Atomic67 G it worked before, but after I played forza 7 on pc and went to play horizon 4 on Xbox, it didn’t work
@@jacksondevries6180 I had the same problem with logic g29 for Playstation. I plugged it in to PS and it worked great. I plugged it later into pc to play a game then back to PS4 and it didn't work at all. Not even calibration. The only thing I can suggest is to plug it into your Xbox and look for a setting to reset the wheel. if not I would contact thrustmaster about it and see what they can do. I know it's a common problem but I don't know if they will help you or not. Logitech has terrible customer service support so I don't know if Thrustmaster will be the same. I wound up returning the Logitech wheel to Amazon for a refund. it's always a good practice to test as many things you can with a new product the first couple days you have it. That way you can easily get a refund if something goes wrong.
Thank you so much! Watching from 2020, seems as though my wheel is cracked but I have no clue what to do. Do I glue it if so do I use gorilla glue regular glue? Or do I just get a new one?
Hello and thank you for watching and for the comment 😊.
If you are referring to the optical sensor disk, You can try using a very small amount of Gorilla gel instant adhesive but you have to be extremely neat and careful. You can't get any of it on the surface of the disk or it won't work right or at all.
I recommend applying the glue with the tip of a toothpick.
Some have had success with gluing it but the best thing to do is to have a new one 3d printed.
btw, love your profile photo 🇺🇸👍
@@Atomic67G Thanks, Knowing me my like is horrible and I have no 3D printer near me so i'm probably just gonna sell it but now I have no clue where to buy a new G27 because it is my favorite wheel.
@@Atomic67G I'm gonna attempt to glue it right now with Crazy glue and a toothpick, i'll let you know how it goes.
@@emiliovalenti2723
Don't buy a new G27. The ones available are over priced and many don't work.
Buy a G29 or G927.
I now use a Thrustmaster and I love it.
My steering wheel when i torn on the wheel rool and den stop and the light in gearbox start blinking
Mine is slightly calibrating to the right does it mean that the optical thing is broken or just software issue because when i put it straight the software tells it angle 0. Thank you
it doesn't mean your optical sensor is bad. I updated my description with a link to my google drive. Click on the "LEGACY SOFTWARE and DXTWEEK SOFTWARE" link. Download the DXTWEEK software and you can use that to recenter your wheel. You will have to play with the numbers a little to get it spot on but it worked great for me.
Hope this helps :)
Ok thanks you so much
Im a noob at sim racing
When i turn on my steering wheel is centres wrong the when i play with is this way the steering goes seriously out of centre do you thing it is the optical sensor or no before i open my steering
You can go in the video description and download the legacy profile software and the DXTweak software I provided. DXTweak gives you the ability to reenter your wheel and fine tune it.
Try that before opening your wheel.
If it continues to become misaligned after that then open wheel and check sensor 😊
@@Atomic67G how to use the DXTweak and if the ring was cracked how to remove it
I had a hell of a time getting the black cap off. The whole fn thing came off. The cap, disk, the board holding the sensor. It was really loose. So does it matter how close the disk is to the clear sensor when putting it back
Travis Wilson
Hi Travis the disk should be aligned perfectly or you will not be able to maintain calibration or it may not calibrate at all.
Anyone else have to make sure the wheel was lined up dead center when putting it back together
Travis Wilson
absolutely, that's what determines center point for wheel calibration and it maintains based on optical disk positioning each time the wheel calibrates.
I have seriously messed with the encoder disk (got a free G27 from a colleague who asked me to check it out because it "has problems"), which was cracked in about 6 places, put it back together with a very thin metal tape) and the 3 dots you mention I think are just results of injection-molding the part and are not anything to worry about, it's the slots you better not cover.
For anyone suffering auto-calibration problems: make sure the gear sprocket that moves sideways is lining up in the sense that the center position of the wheel should have a distance left and right that's equal, otherwise the endstops will not be met accordingly and self-calibration will fail.
To be honest, it would be much easier to get another disk 3D printed.
@Eustace i have Logitech driving force pro, wheel is going off center, optical sensor is OK, i tried everything but wheel is going 20-30 degrees left and right off center, one moment everything is OK 10 sec. after problem continues. Im going crazy..
Tyson me too right now do you fix it?
My wheel gradually starts going off center about 10-15 minutes into playing until it is entirely 180 degrees upside-down. Would this fix that or is something else wrong with mine?
If you used the DX tweak software I made available for download in the description of my video and your wheel still falls out of alignment then you most likely have a mechanical issue. Either loose screws or cracked optical sensor.
I suggest you open it up and inspect it if you feel comfortable doing so.
If not you can contact an electronics repair shop in your area and let them diagnose /repair it.
Hope this helps and sorry you're having trouble.
Thank you very much for watching and for the comment 😊
Thanks😊👍
you're very welcome. Glad I could help 😊👍
Hey, my wheel just goes slightly to the right, I can't even really feel that it goes to the right.
Do I have to do all of this or is my wheel fine?
You can download the DXTweak software I provided in the description. That will center your wheel and fine-tune it.
Thanks
Thx bro
you're very welcome 😊
Question, don’t know if you’re still active.... when I go to delete the old Logitech files to download the file you have it tells me I cannot because it’s open somewhere else... do you have any idea why?
Hi Dylan, thanks for watching and for the question. You shouldn't be deleting any of the files manually. You should Uninstall the software via programs and features menu. Then restart pc and install the software I provided.
if it still gives wrong software then Uninstall again then use a reputable registry cleaner like glarysoft to wipe it from registry.
Restart pc and install my version 😊
Make sure the program is closed in task management too. It could be running in background and causing your error.
oh and I know it doesn't seem like it but I'm still active. I've just had a lot of things to take care of outside of TH-cam past several months but I am working on video content and should be released very soon 😊
Atomic67 G thank you very much! It was running in the background. I have to buy a new encoder because my glue fix didn’t work, much appreciated!
@@DoubleKlutchRacing you're very welcome and thrilled I could help 😊
I need help with the g27 there’s a part that has come out
What part?
Hello I'm french , i don't understant when you said "it's loose" .. what is loose? The encoder ? I want to be sure of explications before tempting to repair my wheel !
Your vidéo is very cool ! Thank you in avance
Bonjour et merci beaucoup d'avoir regardé. Je suis désolé pour le. malentendu. L'encodeur peut être desserré ou même fissuré. J'espère que vous pouvez comprendre ce message. J'ai utilisé Google translate 😊
@@Atomic67G okay Thanks ! So I just have to tight the encoder or stick it to fix? What are the risks ?
@@Atomic67G And you don't show how to remove the encoder to glue it, how can I remove it from its axis?
@@fassfoud6948 you have to be very clean with glue. If it's cracked you can glue it but don't be messy
@@Atomic67G Okay, i'll do that tommorow and i tell you if i've problems
Hi, is it normal for the ring to have about 5mm of play up and down the shaft?
Are you having problems with your wheel such as alignment issues?
@@Atomic67G Yes, I just figured out that the calibration wheel is cracked, im going to try to glue it together later today. I also read somewhere that it might be a good idea to glue the little wheel to its shaft to stop it from sliding around and messing up the calibration.
Hi, I use my G27 on my PC, and now when I plug it in, the steering does not calibrate right, left then Centre anymore. When in game, all the buttons work, except for steering - I can't steer when in game (I have the latest firmware available). Will what you showed us fix that problem, do you know? Thanks in advance.
Hi Nikolas, thanks for watching and for the question.
First thing I have to ask is, do you create profiles for your games using the Logitech profiler software?
That's an important step and because G27 is not supported anymore the software will try to update every time you unplug your wheel when the PC is >ON<
It will update to a wheel you don't have.
if you must unplug your wheel; do it when your PC is turned >OFFOFF< as well.
Also, if you're software updates you'll have to Uninstall that software and use a registry cleaner than reinstall the correct software.
I recommend Glarysoft to clean registry.
I have a link in the description of this video to my Google drive which has the Logitech G27 profiler and a program called DX Tweak to fine tune and recenter your wheel. Let me know how it goes.
@@Atomic67G thanks, I will give that a try.
@@Atomic67G it didn't work 😢 just like before, all the buttons work, except for the steering - it does not/I can't steer left or right. Something is probably broken or loose inside the wheel.
@@nickolastiguan
you're going to have to open it up and have a look inside.
@@Atomic67G thanks for the Video and replies.
Hey dude. Nice video. I just bought this G27 used, and all works but not the wheel. It will not center lock, and dont work in Logitech programs. The pedals behind the wheel works doh? 🙃 Maybe i need to pull it apart?
make sure you have the legacy Logitech software. Link is in my description. I also give you DX Tweak program to fine tune your wheel settings.
Did you buy this used off Amazon?
Thanks for showing us how to take it apart. Turns out my encoder is cracked. I will try super glue otherwise I will have to buy a metal 30 slot one.
Hello,
I know this video is old but I hope you could help me.
I bought a new PC and when I was installing Logitech gaming software I didn't notice that instead of detecting Logitech g27 it showed g27 as ps2 and opened calibration. I followed the instructions in calibration (it seems off the center in the calibration window, so I tried to correct it) and finished installation. After that when Logitech gaming software launched I noticed that g27 acts like ps2, so I unplug usb and plug it in and it helped, BUT my g27 is now off center. The center is 30° to right. I uninstalled everything and tried it again but it seems like g27 changes values for the center itself (like in the wheel not in the program), I tried to connect it to old PC but the problem stays :(
Sorry for my bad english. I hope you will be able to help me because I really want to drive on my wheel :(
Hello,I would be happy to help you.
After you uninstall the software use a registry cleaner such as Glarysoft to clean your PC registry. Install the G27 software I have linked in description of this video. It's the original version.
After installing go in the settings and turn off automatic update and turn off Detect new games. From this point you can not unplug your wheel from PC anymore. If you do, then you will have to do this process each time.
if you're wheel is still not center after all this go in wheel settings and make sure your wheel is set to 900° of rotation and spring back strength is at maximum.
If this does not work then also download the DXTweak software I also provided in that link in my description. Look at 13:57 in this video. Match each setting to watch I show in the pictures.
I hope this helps you. Please let me know 😊
@@Atomic67G Im sorry, which settings are you talking about?
I cannot find automatic update option.
@@bumares7554 when you open the profiler there's a tab. select it and you will see option to search for new games. Disable that 😊
@@Atomic67G I tried your advice but unfortunately, it doesn't help :(
I'm adding this video to better describe my problem: th-cam.com/video/8bZEMIa0XRQ/w-d-xo.html
(everything was uninstalled and registry cleaned)
Thanks for your time especially during the holidays
How do you get the sensor clip off. I dont want to break it I am trying two flatheads it's not working
The only way I know how to get that clip off is the way I illustrated in the video. The G27 is very old so the clip won't come off easily in some cases. Just have patience and gently work it back and forth.
If you really feel you're going to break it, I suggest you go to a PC repair shop and let them do it for you. 😊
I ended up getting the clip on the board off and just pulling off the cover that way. But I figured out I must have a different issue. Not cracked and not loose but it's still getting slightly shifted to the right everytime I use it. Until I replug it. I'm thinking probly just a new sensor. And maybe because I'm using the newest logitech software. Any ideas?
i don't undestrand why my g27 is more strong than gt with same settings.Do u had a problem like that?
it depends on a couple of things. If you open the software and look to see if you have "Use Game settings", then it will adjust according to what you set up in the game.
I have that unchecked.
You can also lower the resistance in the G27 software.
I went over it in the video. You can view it starting at 13:55 in video.
Use 900 degrees of rotation and then look at the other settings I put on screen. Take screen shots of them so you can refer back to them anytime.
I recently bought a second hand G27, and it worked just fine until this problem came up.
I turned it apart and realized that the problem was, in fact, a loose screw.
Now I re-assembled it and i
All I get is the dim power check light on the gear stick and the wheel won't even auto-calibrate :/
Anyway, this was very helpful
Does anyone know what could be the problem with my wheel?
I'm glad I could be of some help. If you have further trouble calibrating I also included the DX tweak software. link is in the description. Thank you very for watching and for the comment 😊 👍
what are the symptoms of this problem, my wheel shakes violently for no reason and was wondering if this is what i should do to fix it
Sounds like the feedback setting is set too high or malfunctioning. I recommend opening the software and turning feedback off.
if you don't have the original profile software you can download it with the link in the description of this video.
Thank you very much for watching too 😊 👍
@@Atomic67G i don’t want to turn feedback off because it’s important to me and setting is not too high cause it was fine and then all of a sudden it started doing that
@@BenSmith-yo3jw The G27 is a very old wheel. Things will start to go bad. Feedback is first to go because it shakes the wheel literally apart.
If this happens when you start the pc when the wheel calibrates then it's a wheel problem.
1 Unplug the wheel
2. uninstall the profile software.
3. Use a registry cleaner software to remove residual files like Glary soft
4. restart PC
5. download and install the legacy profile software from my Google drive link in description.
6. plug wheel back in when prompted by install wizard.
See if that resolves your issue.
If it doesn't then that feature of the wheel is going bad.
You will have to decide to reduce the feedback or turn it off or you can send it to an electronic repair shop for diagnosis and /repair.
It may be time to buy another wheel and pedal set.
I use the Thrustmaster Leather edition. Excellent quality piece of kit.
Again, Links to the registry cleaner and legacy software are in the description of this video.
nicest guy ever lol
thank very much Jesse 😊
What should i do if the black wheel is cracked beyond fixing what should i do PLS HELP
You'll have to take the broken piece to a local 3D printing shop and have them create a new piece. It shouldn't be too expensive at all.
How to fix logitech g25 wheel not responding and force feedback not working but nothing looks broken
Fixed it yet?
hey, after putting everything back my wheel only caliberates halfway and then stops, any suggestions?
Jordy Lopez
Try a different USB port. Also make sure your profile software didn't update. You should see the G27 image. Sometimes it will update on its own somehow lol.
If all that doesn't fix it then you may have knocked something out of line when you put it back together.
I think help is too late? I had the Problem myself; the Encoder was not on the Shaft in the Position it should have been i was working for days before i found this...
Maybe it will be helpful for someone: check the degrees of rotation: it should be 450 in one side and 450 in the other. Less values means that you have assembled it wrong. Check the stopper on the main axis: it should look upwards, othewise it may not let the wheel to make a full rotation and cause this calibration issue.
Maybe late but mine goes fully right then fully left and doesn't want to go to the center
I came here for a hand lotion commercial and instead i figured out how to fix my wheel. Sadly tho i have to redo it all over again since i think i have glue on a few of those holes on the optical encoder :/ I had to laugh at mine tho, when i got to that part, those 2 screws holding it down, well mine were half out. Im kind of amazed at how long it went with them out before i got the centering issue due to a break finally happening.
I have a friend who's boss will 3d print out a new one for me if i want to for like 10$ which i might do if i can find the correct format of one for. I did buy a washer to glue in to act as a brace to hold it it tho. M5 was the size, i cant remember what class it was tho (for thickness). The washer was perfect size tho and held really snug to the center piece. I was a bit amazed at how well it fitted in.
Great video tho. It really helped with the way you zoomed in and used the screwdrivers as a guide on thing.
LOL@ hand lotion commercial. Yes if you have any debris on the optical sensor it will cause problems. Just be careful what you use to clean it. Thanks for watching :D
I just woke up so havent touched it, but had it soaking in soapy water for the last 15 hours or so in hopes to losen up the glue a bit to try to remove it. its funny because the wheel would lose its centerting to the left about 30 degrees, and now when it turns on and calibrates its to the right about 30%
After tearing it down and rebuilding it up about 3 or 4 times i did notice the wheel start to get more tighter o turn, which im assuming is from the lubrication on it getting wore off a bit.
So i just followed your guide, worked great, got to the 2 screws to tighten, they were already very tight, i then inspected the optical encoder wheel , no damage, looked to be in pristine condition, put it all back together, still getting alignment problem, any ideas?
One thing to make sure is to put the optical encoder with the shaft down (i put it back together upside down and had to do it again). Also make sure the encoder is closer to the side with the black relay thingy. Mine looked in great condition but i finnaly found a spot that it was cracked at.
I ended up buying a old momo at the goodwill bins and used it in its place. I had to modify it a bit and then super glue it it to the shaft, so its only a temperary fix for me.
Does yours lose alignment over time/usage? At first i used a old program called, DXTWEAK, and set the alignment off to the side so it would align up. Its a neat old uitlity, about 10 year old, which worked fine on my win 10 system.
If its not drifting off alignment with use, then i would definitly check out that dxtweak utility.
I just got mine working the other day but havent been able to test it out as the heat came and my feet swelled up so i cant do any driving right now. Teaches me for not drinking enough water, lol.
On mine, there are 4 grooves and it was at the end of one groove where the crack was at. Sadly it looks like the part was designed to fail after awhile.
Another thing you could do is just buy a washer to put on the side, glue it to strenghen it. I believe it was a m5 washer (metric, size 5). I got glue in the spokes so it fails for me :/
Arrakis Rodin
Hey Arrakis, thanks for all the great info. First of all I'm sorry you have swelling and discomfort. Second, if you use dxtweek be sure to download the appropriate version for your system. I run windows 10 64bit. and found someone who has the file.
Also, I think there are two fixes that eventually will be necessary.
1. look for a local tool and dye maker. Give them the part and they can make a replica out of metal. You can make another plastic one if you contact someone with a 3d printer.
2. buy a new wheel. I can't say anything good about the new G29. I have one and it broke in 3 months from a known wire breaking problem due to its violent calibration sequence.
I hear thrust master has a nice wheel though.
Hope this helps.
Hey 👋 I have everything working only the wheel is not responding do you have any solution ):
Hello, do you have the original legacy profile software installed and set up on your PC?
@@Atomic67G yea I have the software
It was very loose so I tightened it properly but problem persists, any other ideas??
did you inspect the encoder disk to see if there's any cracks?
If you did and did not find any, I included the DX tweak software in my Google drive download link in the description. Use dxtweak to re-center your wheel and that will fix your problem 😊
Atomic67 G Everything else was fine. Will check your program. Thanks and great vid!
@@leonardgonouriewaldenstrom3243 you're very welcome and thank you very much for watching 😊
So if my wheel keeps changing where the center is as i play is this the issue?
yes, that's an issue. Could be the settings in the game software and or the G27 software.
Start there before taking apart the wheel
@@Atomic67G it started 90 degrees off to the left but basically kept moving until it was 180 degrees from where it started just by playing a game a little bit. I just bought it used. Will try to take apart when i get a chance. Thanks for the video.
@@mpresto15 I provided a link in the description of this video. It contains the legacy software and DX Tweek software to realign the wheel.
Do Not update the legacy G27 software. Tik the box that says don't update games in the configuration software.
There is a company that makes metal replacement rings for those that are cracked and for people just want to make sure it never breaks again
Please and please help me on my g27 when i turn my steering wheel in game it doesnt work but buttons on steering wheel works please help me
What game are you trying to use it for?
Atomic67 G i tried on euro truck simulator 1/2 and city car driving the problem is not in these games the problems is on the steering wheel
@@sanih7402 I understand what you are saying. The problem may not be the game itself but it could be a problem with how the game recognizes it.
You need the legacy profile software and set up a profile in it for each specific game you play with the wheel. If you don't have it, there's a link in my description to get it from my Google drive.
Set the software Not to update and not scan for new games.
unplug your wheel and also reset your wheel and pedal bindings in Euro truck menu.
After clean installation of legacy software restart pc and open game and set up from scratch.
That should do the trick.
I had a similar problem as you are experiencing and those procedures fixed the problem.
Atomic67 G thank you so much ill try it
@@sanih7402 you're very welcome. Also if you ever Uninstal the Logitech software you need to use a registry cleaner app after to wipe residuale files left behind before reinstall.
You may also see the software update to a newer but wrong version every time you unplug the wheel.
It's old software and isn't supported any more so that's the problems you have to battle.
If it ever updates, do what I said above.
Uninstal, wipe with registry cleaner (I use Glary Soft)
reinstall.
Keep multiple copies of the software install file from my Google drive on your PC and external hard drive so you'll always have it. You can't get it from Logitech anymore 😊
Chef please answer to my question, when I play a game like City car driving when I turn my steering wheel isn't working in the game, like when I open my PC the steering wheel don't turn please help me.. Also I'm subbed you are sympathetic 😉
The first thing I would do is unplug the wheel and try it in another USB port.
Regarding games, you have to check if your wheel is supported. Some games only support controller 🎮 or keyboard 🎹.
make sure you have the original G27 legacy software profiler.
There's a link in the description to get it from my Google drive.
Unplug your wheel
Uninstall your profiler
restart pc and install my version.
Hope that helps and thanks for subscribing 😊👍
So thanks
@@Atomic67G but the touches in the steering wheel works
@@sanih7402
if the buttons work and the wheel won't calibrate or move then it could mean that you need to send it for repair or replacement. the celinoid motor could be finished.
Did you open up the wheel and see if everything is tight and connected?
@@Atomic67G yes
Even Newer wheels still have the same issue. My xbox wheel had it after almost 1 year. Rma'd it
Yup, you're absolutely correct. I had a Logitech G 29 and it did it.
I switched to Thrustmaster and so far 2 years and no problem. I hope my luck holds out.
My last Connector dont wants to come of.... do you have any Idea how i get it off?
Edit: I just made it... i'm sweating now...
Nice Vid and very Helpful
... i took a short Brake and now i took the Cap off... the Spokes are Broken.... what now?
BuggyGamer 2511
Hi buggy, not sure what you mean by "Spokes". Do you mean that little black optical disk? If that is broken you need to replace it. Some people glue it back together but I don't recommend doing that. it won't last and if you get glue on the surface of the disk it won't work right. You can find online someone selling a G27 for parts or you can contact a local 3d print service to make a disk for you. it's not expensive in comparison to buying a new wheel. it can cost around $60 American to have it made.
Ok thx, if i remember Right a Friend wants to throw his G27 away because the Connection from Wheel to Base is Brocken, maybe he still has it or i´m going to search after the Weekend, maybe i can buy a Scrap G27 for Cheap.
Sry for my Bad English and have a Nice Day!
BuggyGamer 2511
I wish you the best of luck. No need to apologize for your English. I think you text English very well actually. Thank you for helping me by commenting in English 😊
Eustace Pharmer
Update: Everything works since some weeks now without any Problems after i bought a Brass replacement, i even can feel that the Wheel is more Responsive than before and is more Accruate. Thanks for the Help! It saved me my few Money i have and it was really worth the waiting for the new Part. Have a Nice Day and keep your laugh and humour :P
Mabe you will see me under another Vid from you^^
2:20 and make sure wheel is unpluged, went to change a new wheel and while trying to disconect those 2 4 pin wires the wheel started spining and almost snapped those wires out
I kind of thought unplugging the wheel before you take it apart was intuitive 😉
that screw inside the plastic cover was loose as hell - im scared thats not my only issue though that clip was impossible to take off
if you don't feel comfortable messing with it then I advise you to take it to an electronics repair shop and they will do it for you.
Thank you for your comment 😊 👍
@@Atomic67G i tightened everything and put it back together and it works better then it ever has xD feels like my brothers brand new g29. Thank you for making this video- i was just gonna accept it was broken
There was a malfunction ... an attempt to fix it was getting worse
cracked ring :(
I'm sorry to read that but it's not the worst thing that could be wrong with it.
Contact a local 3D printing service and they can easily make you a new one. If you don't have a business locally, there's plenty of them online. Do your research and choose one with a good reputation. It's not going to be dirt cheap but it's a hell of a lot less than a new wheel.
Also, don't tell them what the part is for because they may try to overcharge you. All they need to know is, "Here's the item I need made".
@@Atomic67G I found this on ebay do you think this will work www.ebay.co.uk/itm/60-Slot-Steering-Wheel-Optical-Encoder-For-Logitech-G25-Old-G27-UK-Fast-Ship-/353472480512?_trksid=p2349624.m46890.l49286
@@Future20AD
I would be very cautious buying that particular one. It's sent from China. People have said it can take weeks to months to get the encoder and you run the risk of not getting it at all.
In my opinion, ebay is not the place to shop for items like that.
Let me know what you decide to do and how your experience went.
Piece of crap filming angle probably destroyed my steering wheel
you are complaining about my filming?