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- DECAP explains why RME makes the best interfaces, especially in regards to workflow and along with the overall music mixing/production experience.
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Sold my Apollo twin and got a UCX II a month ago and couldn’t be happier. Conversion is more transparent, drivers and interface with my M1 MacBook Pro is 10x smoother. Big up RME
wow great to hear most would sold rme for an apollo, i can not understand
did you have less CPU use with the RME or it doesn't work like that. I'm with UAD Twin, and dude I have a ton of cracks and pops from it. My pc is pretty new..
Way less CPU tax with RME. I would consistently see a 20 - 30% CPU background tax without any DSP plugs running in console. Just idle. On a M1 Max machine. Using the same utility meter, I see Totalmix idling at 2 - 3% background.@@Ultraskill23
What u think about antelope amari?
THAT SETUP YOU GOT IS PERFECT FOR ME!!!! Great job, thanks for the pointers, I now know what i should do! Cheers!
Word! RME got amazing support with multi-platform drivers for current and decade old hardware, incredible agile routing, which is so easy to scale up, clean low floor noise converters. After getting my PCI Hammerfall 9652 (which still you can use) I've never looked back and now i'm with UCX II. These guys are just the best! Love them!
RME 4 life!!! Have a UCX interface for many years now and it never let me down. such a nice product and you're absolutely right about the drivers, they're just working like butter. Thanks a lot for your video, it gave me a great inspiration to get more into total mix, thanks mate!
What u think about Antelope Amari?
My babyface arrived today, i just setup routing and snapshots on 2 of my buttons. I use it for livesets, in case Ableton crashes i click the button and my headphone output of my digitakt is directly routed to main out. That way i can play some beats while rebooting. It's freakin awesome and that way i don't have to drag along a seperate mixer. Love your studio setup!
Smooth clever setup!! Congrats 👏👏👏👏👏
i use a fireface uc for a home set up! always loved it and total mix. just waiting for my ucx ii. count the seconds cuz i heard its very modular friendly!! great video, amazing setup!
Looking at new interfaces for my new space I'll be moving into later this year; RME has always been an option; but never explored this creative routing before; or even been aware of it! Good share;!
this is insane, great walkthrough
Can vouch for RME any-day, any- time!
What u think about Antelope Amari?
RME UFX+ arrived today and I learned something from watching this. Thank you! Octamic XTC comes next! I like the modularity. ...shapless, like water.
Amazing video as I’m in the process of expanding my set up I might text back if any question here soon! Just wanted to say congrats!
Rme + Ableton has been my setup for literally 2 decades
What u think about Antelope Amari?
Yes. Ucxii here and it’s awesome.
great ideas! I only set up a couple presets in total mix when I got my HDSP but am inspired to make more now. I'm surprised he didn't mention the latency reduction from the custom drivers. I've been fighting soundcard latency for 25 years and RME is the quickest so far. it's imperceptible when the plugin load is light to medium but of course has it's limits when you get crazy stacking up VSTs or running those problem childs like ozone
Facts - the lowest latency drivers I've ever used
@@decapmusicWhat u think about Antelope Amari?
This is the exact setup I was going for but with only the Fireface UCX(Ferrofish handling most of the analog IO through ADAT). RME is rock solid. PERIOD.
Dope 🏁
Love RME, have an UFX II and a FF800 as a convertor.
just got my babyface pro fs its amazing!!
i love mine, its a beast
I e had the UFX for years and I love it
What u think about Antelope Amari?
@@manykzdj792 never heard of it or tried it
So it's basically like running a live digital mixer built for a studio environment. Dope!
Awesome video and cool to see your setup! I've been running RME for years, owned an OG Babyface, Babyface Pro, Babyface Pro FS and UFX+. I always recommend RME to my friends, most of whom have been swayed by the "cool factor" and marketing of the UA ecosystem. I understand the appeal of UA and their plugins, but with RME I get HALF the round trip latency (6ms at 128 buffer, or 4ms at 64 buffer) over a USB 2.0 connection that a friend's Apollo gets (13ms at 128 buffer) over Thunderbolt 3 and I can monitor through my DAW with any plugins I want & zero perceivable latency.... I can mix full sessions with 60+ tracks, tons of VSTs and my CPU intensive mastering chain on a 64 sample buffer without so much as a hiccup from my Babyface Pro FS. The converters, mic pres and headphone amps are the cleanest I've ever used, especially in a desktop format interface. This is true PROFESSIONAL grade, German engineered, equipment that has the stability and reliability to be trusted in the studio or on stage. Totalmix FX is the icing on the cake, with the most flexible routing I've ever seen.
Wow. Ive used the old BF and loved it. Totalmix is for the Pros as it takes a sec to get the hang of. THANK YOU this expanded my thinking about this. Its a DIGITAL PATCHBAY I suppose? very cool
I can vouch for this setup almost to the tee. ADI 2 Pro Fs/ Digiface/ FerroFish. This is hands down the best sounding interface combo I’ve ever had, but more importantly, for the year I’ve had it, I’ve had no problems. No drop outs, no lag, no cpu spikes,,,etc. etc. You can obviously get the UFX3 now for cheaper than the combo we have, that’s the only draw back. Totalmix is an amazing bonus feature.
What u think about Antelope Amari?
Sounds really good, but antelopes drivers and stability are iffy for that price point. I would actually go for a UFX 2 + or 3 over an antelope. It’s an all in one box with more ins and outs than a Antelope
@dazeja thank you for your advice, yeah I know that antelope not stable as rme but people who own it still willing to sacrifice stability for higher quality sound, do u think converter on ufx3 better than rme adi-2 pro? Or its same sound just more outputs? Thank you
@@manykzdj792 Honestly I can't hear the difference in the convertors. I would buy a converter based on features instead of sound. One thing to know is that the adi-2 pro doesn't come with totalmix. ufx3 does. I didn't get it because I already had the digiface/Raydat and couldn't afford a ufx and a adi-2 pro at the same time. And really you don't need both.
@dazeja thanks a lot for your opinion, I'm trying to make right decision, still collecting votes 🗳 lol thank you
decap looking like that dude from starwars with those headphones on.
Bro once i went to rme it was no turning back i love it for all my work purposes with youtube, It's a great interface i sold my apollo for it lol
Excellent review. Much appreciate it. Would love your opinion. I own an Apollo X8 and now going through the “bug’ of even considering swapping out my X8 for a Fireface UFX III. Would appreciate any opinions and advice.
Hi DECAP, what an insightful routing! I also use RME Raydat. Would you mind to share the routing detail in PDF or blog post (something readable)
or Would you mind to share the .tmws file so i can learn directly & tweak to my setup?
Thanks ever so much!
Great review! I have a small home studio (studio one, asr 10, analog heat mk2, maschine mk3), i was wondering if i take this type interface (ucx2), do i need to get another converter (apogee etc...)? i believe the Rme converters of the interdace are already really good right?
I have a cool way of recording any audio with audio plugins with loopback along with Gig perfomer
I have a similar setup with RME UFX ll, I haven’t figured out how to track the way you are in Totalmix fx. I definitely need help with that part, I have 2 piano/synths, 6 mic pres in my 500 series rack, AEA RPQ2, Sebatron Axis, and an Otari MTR-12 1/2” 4 track all going to my Ferrofish Pulse 16. Both adat out from the Pulse 16 are going into the RME UFX ll adat ins. Fairly simple but need help with Totalmixfx routing to my DAW MixCraft 9. I love RME, always glitch free and superb sound!
Do you do studio consultations where you help someone set up their RME based studio, routing, etc.?
Thank you for your work
I'm also looking for that...thinking of getting an RME UFX 3 and don't mind paying for the consultation
Thanks for making this video, Decap. Since the RME UFX+ has the 16 ins/outs you need, was there a reason you decided to go with the ADI-2 Pro and the Ferrofish Pulse instead of using a single unit like the UFX+? Did you own the Ferrofish already? Or was a another beneficial reason for going that route?
I had the same question. The use of the ADI-2 Pro and Ferrofish Pulse shouldn't be necessary with the RME UFX+ or its predecessor, the RME III. However, if he's using the UCX II then it makes more sense to use the ADI-2 Pro and the Ferrofish Pulse. Are you sure he is using a UFX+?
@@johntaylor8271 Having re-read what I wrote, I could see how you came to that conclusion. But no, I didn't mean to say that he owned the UFX+, I was just wondering why he didn't buy that instead of the UCX II/ADI-2 Pro/Ferrofish Pulse combo, since the UFX+ had so many ins/outs in the unit itself. I thought, as mentioned, that perhaps there was a good reason to choose the 3 units vs the single UFX+, but perhaps he already owned the ferrofish and found it pointless to get the UFX+? Or maybe he was new to RME and simply didn't know about the UFX+? Or perhaps it was discontinued when he jumped on board? Who knows. Either way, hope that makes sense now.
Are you using gates on the input channels in Total Mix so you don't noise floor from all the synths/other stuff that is connected while recording via Record Channel?
Dope man! How the RME RayDAT is connected to your MBPro? As far as I know it's a PCI Express card. Do you use an external box?
Yes I’m using a sonnet echo express se i which turns the pci card to a thunderbolt 3 connection
@@decapmusic Hey man, is this still your setup for 2024? I was wondering if theres any reason to be using the RayDAT over something like the UFX III? It would save one less box from needing to be purchased in theory.
Cheers!
is it possible to omit the preamp with the babyface at line level? I am asking because of the use of an external preamp! I know that it is with ucx2, but does babyface know this too?
Do you have a trick for switching between muting the mic to go to the monitors without changing the volumes? It doesnt work in totalmix for me even though i clicked the dont change volume
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Hey DECAP, question for you. Can you use the RME ADI Pro as an interface? I would love to get both the ADI Pro and the Fireface UCX II but I would have to save to get both at the same time. I work from home making music, so I don’t need a lot of inputs. Thanks for sharing and looking forward to hearing from you. 1
Yes the ADI-2 Pro can be used as an interface. The other ADI -2 can not.
Hey @DECAP I am super interested in parts of your setup. I have a Cranborne Audio ADAT500, an EVO SP8 and an Audient iD44. I might replace the EVO SP8 and the Audient iD44 if needed.
Can I have the Raydat in my pc then connect my Cranborne Audio ADAT500 and an 8 channel AD/DA converter. Could I potentially use the Audient iD44 as a monitor control using TotalMix?
Regards from Sweden
Are the volume faders unaffected by the snapshot switching? My total mix switches the volume even though i disabled it in the settings
RmE is Goated
Thanks, Decap. One question, how many inputs into Ableton (Or any DAW) could the RME theoretically do? Two channels works for you, but what if I wanted 10 channels, so I could record four synths in stereo, and a drum machine all at once, and all routed to different tracks in Ableton or Pro Tools? Can it do that? Cheers!
Yes - as many inputs as your hardware has
a raydat with two ferrofish adat extensions gives you 32 in, 32 out.
I switched from UAD to RME and haven’t been as happy as i am now.
How do you power all that stuff? Which conditioner?
3 undeniable facts of life :
- The Sun shines
- The Rain poors
- and RME make the best interfaces
I got an RME Babyface pro like 2 years ago based on their latency being lower than everyone else at low buffers. Probably cause they make their own drivers.
Did you notice you can run more VSTs? (After changing my Presonus to Steinberg Ableton could in fact run larger projects)
@@TimeManagementSolu I had built a new computer a few months before so I was already able to run a lot of VSTs. Not sure if the interface added more to my recent power boost?
I was mainly drawn to them because of the latency and playing guitar DI with virtual amps. RME has the lowest numbers at the lowest buffers. My producer friends aren't concerned with latency like I was and have gone to other interfaces from other companies swayed by converters and interface processing.
So far its great. On windows in ableton, you have to change buffer in a weird way and not in ableton itself but that doesn't happen on Mac. Outside of that, no complaints.
They maje the best interfaces because they support their 12year+ old soundcards with rock solid drivers. My Babyface never, realy never, had a single issue in 12 years.
What u think about Antelope Amari?
Rme is top notch upgraded from a scarlett. Yea woah.
i see your setup and you made me follow torugh in quitting making music...
What song is the intro, if u made can u extended please
do you recommend the rme babyface?
Yes - I have it as my portable interface
@@decapmusic im thinking on getting a sp404 to add texture,fx to my master do you think the babyface is enough? from a signal flow viewpoint
Can i connect my outboard gear to the rme ufxiii
Is RME good for live performance?
that's actually cool. interface looks a little dated but the feature set is nice. would miss my uad channel string with autotune for monitoring vocals tho
with rme you get 4ms round trip latency over usb 2.0 and you can monitor through your daw with any chain you want :) with apollo you have to use console because the latency is too high even over thunderbolt 3
@@PrezenceMusic33 but i like that, i don't want to monitor through my daw i want to offload the monitoring to dsp chips so i save cpu and never have to touch my buffer size
@@xlilxillx different workflows and whatever helps you make music is the one you should use... i like the ability to monitor through my daw with any chain i want, no latency and not worry at my buffer size being set to 64 or 128. With the power of Apple Silicon, and an RME interface i'm not sure why there's a need for "saving cpu." To me it seems like a dated workflow. The UA plugins are great though, but it seems that UA is quickly adapting their business model to make the plugins available natively, as the Sharc DSP chips have nothing on any modern Mac or custom PC.
true i have an M1 macbook pro and it's much more powerful than my PC but i still run into cpu headroom issues, especially when recording guitars and vocals due to having many layers/harmonies/melodyne and oversampling. i could deff do a whole mix natively on the m1 but i'd have to change up my workflow and the plugin chains i use & make some sacrifices. on my pc i would still die without UAD tho@@PrezenceMusic33
same here raydat with 2x ferrofish. set it and forget it for the next decade.
Can you bypass the pre amps and just hit the converters ?
Yes
holy shit i think i'd need an hour video to fully understand this
definitely so confusing lol
Not to take away from what you’re saying about the quality of RME’s drivers, which I don’t disagree with… but they are not the only company that writes their own bespoke audio drivers. (Anyone who makes a Thunderbolt interface can’t rely on class compliant drivers, they have to write their own.) Just a point of clarity.
Arguably, RME’s drivers are the best. And their software support for their “legacy” audio interfaces is unarguably the best.
Is there a way to simplify this setup?
Get an RME UFX 3 or an older UFX plus. It’s all in one box. Not as many ins and outs though, but 8 is a lot.
you could do a Babyface Pro FS connected via ADAT to an additional 8 channels of analog I/O when you're in the studio, and the flexibility of a bus-powered desktop interface while you're on the go :) thats the setup i'm running and it works amazing.
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I switched from UAD to RME and never looked back.
is this your new streaming setup? 9-11-23 The reason I asked because your streaming setup video states you used uad products.
#RME Totalmix I run A whole live streaming show like a digital mixer
I guess you don't hear much as your vocal mic keeps pushing plosives at every word.
I'd rather divorce my wife than give up my RME UFX + if anyone expresses any dissatisfaction with RME Decap will pay $50 to every one of you. RME for life!!!
How much they pay you for this??
Nothing - not sponsored. I don’t know anyone at RME. Just telling my community about something I’m enjoying.
My god dude you can clearly see how excited he is to talk about his set up
@@decapmusic yeah I commented before you said that in the vid. we can see your excitement, and you always put people on to new shit you like. I was just being suspicious. Respect.
RME makes the worst interfaces because they turned their backs on musicians. It costs over $30,000 for an 96 channel RME MADI setup, but it costs less than $8000 for a MOTU setup with AVB networking. The MOTUs are very high spec and score high on DiffMaker, and they have matrix routing for all IO so it's not like there's a compromise. With 2x HDSPe RayDat cards installed in your system, you can only run one single 16 channel ADAT converter @ 96 kHz per card. That's a total of 32 channels ADAT and 8 channels of AES and SPDIF shared between the two cards. That runs out instantaneously. As you grow your setup, RME is going to take you for a ride. Let me tell you 40 IO is not a lot. You can barely even setup a summing bus and a few FX chains and hook up a few synths. It runs out immediately and you need 4X of those ADI-2 FS so at least you get 8 more channels. Out of all the RME products ADI-2 FS is one of the only that's smart to buy. Even RMEs more inexpensive portable interfaces end up being a roadblock because you can't easily expand them without going into the MADI price ranges, I.e. $2700 to convert MADI to ADAT. The whole RME system is not viable to grow with unless you want to go into commercial installation prices. It's only usable if you stay with a small setup with a few synths and barely anything working. I can't do it because it's such a nightmare being out of IO and not able to do anything. Like, wanna have a DC-coupled Ferrofish Pulse 16 CV for some IO for working with Eurorack gear? Bam there's your setup gone, 16 channels lost now you can't do anything again. The way to solve this is by getting away from RME.
Myopia much?
@@zyxyuv1650 malignant narcissism is a terrible drug
RME asks too much money for what you get
RME Multiface II PCIe still going strong after 13 years!
You can't say that about many interfaces out there.
Man that's $2G😂