IN THIS VIDEO 00:00 - Intro 01:18 - Hawkins Self Test 01:57 - Painful Arc Test 03:14 - Horizontal Adduction Test 03:55 - AC Joint Distraction (Bad Cop) Test 05:05 - Next Steps and Recommendations
I had pain in the last two tests, so seems like AC Joint disfunction. Question: could side-sleeping cause AC joint disfunction? Especially since the way I have my bottom arm when side sleeping has lots of internal rotation?
I’m having a sharp pain in the horizontal adduction test. A few weeks a ago I think I tore something . I can’t even bench press a plate with my right side . Also very hard for me to feel my tricep on that same side . Help me !
@@svalbard01 Get started on the AC Joint exercises featured in the video description. Sleeping posture can definitely be a root cause of the issue. - Coach Joshua, Team PM
Hi doctor, I felt down with my shoulder six months ago , I went to the hospital after three month , x ray was done I was found with acute upper respiratory infection of multitude in unspecified areas and joint pains I took medication but could see any change went back again the same problem was discovered..my joint has a pop sound, it's itch alot more so when am relaxed .I feel more pain in my neck too. Help me doctor what can I use or do am really stressed up
distracting the glenohumeral joint can reproduce pain in a supraspinatus tendinopathy (tendinitis is an old term that is being phased out because we are finding there isn't much inflammation in tendon injuries). The painful arc test is positive around 60-120 degrees (in most literature) of shoulder abduction and not 45. Test is also performed with thumbs pointing up. This is why I never encourage patients to search google and youtube for self test or exercises, unless referenced from published research. Sorry if I come off as a prick but just making you a better coach :)
Or it could be trigger points in the teres minor, major or infraspinatus. These refer pain to lateral and front delets and can make elevating shoulder into positions shown painful and make sudden movements have a sharp intense pain. I went to several physios randall of them look for some type of "impingement". None of them helped much. Then I pulled out my trigger therapy manual and did self massage on the muscles I mentioned and got in 5 mins what physio couldn't achieve in months. All without spending money on physios. Simply your muscles may have knots from over use or a single overload and they need to be released. Get a ball, rubber with some give, find the spots by leaning into ball against a wall. I hadn't done pushups or benched in months, 5 mins of this and I could push up and bench. Still feeling better days later. But if knots are gnarly theyll need a little work daily or every other day. I'm not a therapist, just someone with plenty of injuries that feel like joint issues that fixed them with trigger point therapy. It could as described in the vid but investigate trigger points as it can be done by yourself easily and cheap and gets fast results IF it's the issue or part of the issue.
@@PrecisionMovementCoach when i do bench press (dumbells) after the 1 set i feel discomfort in left shoulder! This disappear after some time! From last 1 month i have this issue should i go to the doctor! Thank you!
Amazing! Here a summary for me and others: 1. (modified) Hawkins Test | Pain -> Impingement / Rotatorcuff issue 2. Painful Arch (Lateral Abduction) | Pain between 45°-120° -> Impingement, above -> AC-Joint 3. Horizontal Adduction | Pain -> AC-Joint Dysfuntion 4. Distraction Test/ Bad Cop Test | Pain -> AC-Joint (Impingement symptoms should be relieved here) Thanks a lot for the great informative and helpful Video!
thank you so much. I have been suffering from shoulder pain for the last 6 months but my chiropractor said its impingement but could not help me at all. Now from your video test I think its ac joint injury - finally I will be relieved of pain- can't thank you enough!!
By far the best group of tests I have found. The explanation of pain between here and here was bang on for me. Thank you very much for this information .
Thank you so much!! I did these tests and apparently failed all the a.c. joint ones😭😭 but im relieved to find out what i have now. So clear and concise, great job
@Precision Movement that's ok! I'm actually amazing! It took about 3 weeks to recover from what I had before and I've been amazing ever since. I just did a few rehab exercises for a few days out of the week and I was good as new👌
I have every sign of impingement, according to your video. Thank you for helping! I'd never self-diagnose but now I feel like I can try more specific things to see if I can make it feel better.
Nice work! Make sure to check out the resources in the video description for ideas on how to address the root cause of your issue :) - Coach Joshua, Team PM
I'm glad I performed the tests you showed in this video. Years ago I separated my left a/c joint in a motorcycle wreck(high side) and the shoulder is giving me a lot of trouble for about a month. It seems that my current problem is impingement. Thanks for making it more easy to describe to my doctor.
Mr.Wong I want to thank you for your video.It finally brought to my knowledge what I am experiencing in my shoulder.I didnt want to to exercises that could have potentially aggravated my condition.This is the first time Ive experienced such pain and discomfort in my shoulder.Now I know it is serious impingement.I cant even raise my arm sideways 5 inches without bad pain.
Hey Eric I have been experiencing right shoulder pain for like 7 months . I did your tests and I didn't really feel any pain. My shoulder pain occurs mostly in this exercises: lateral rises, triceps cable pulldown, push ups, bench press . I feel the pain in the area between my shoulder and my triceps. It can be sharp pain for a moment when I do sudden moves with my hand .
BROOO you described precisely what I have been going through. Could you please tell me if you’ve gotten any better or what you did or anything. I’ve taken a 1 month break from the gym and it’s still exactly how you described sharp pain when doing sudden movements especially when doing bench press etc
I just received my MRI and I have Rotator cuff tendinopathy. I had pain on the 1, 2 and 3 test (even when I do not have AC issues), and not in the 4th. I self diagnosed impingement and it was accurate. Hence this video describes with great precision what I was diagnosed. Thank you!.
Thanx man. I performed all the tests with you. Impingement. Distinct pain during the Hawkins test but zero pain in all the other tests. Once in a while a youtuber knows his shyt. Thanks again.
Wow! Searching the web for hours. Thought I had shoulder impingement. Your tests show it's AC joint dysfunction. Now to figure out what that is exactly and how to treat it. Thanks!!!
hold on a second. This man just gave me my cure. I tried the ac joint distraction test, and I instantly felt my impingement get better. Holy God. Thank You so much. You're amazing!!!!!!!!
Thank you for these tests. Had problems for 5 years. Definitely impingement. Changed diet and reduced inflammation, but as I raise my arm, I will hear and feel about 5-6 clicks.
Make sure to check out the impingement resources in the video description. The noises should subside with time but keep in mind that such noises are normal to a degree. - Coach Joshua, Team PM
I want to sincerely thank you. It was perfect for me and really helped me diagnose and choose the right rehab regime. Just because of this video I feel so better
have AC ligament damage from snowboard wipe out. after watching scores of videos, yours are the best. very informative and to the point. thank you Eric!!
Finally what I was looking for. I had a grade 2 ac separation injury 15 months ago. Recovered and finally my shoulder felt stronger than before the injury. A week ago as I was doing a chopping motion on a heavy bag my shoulder felt a little sore, that was followed by popping, restricted movment, pain and weaknesses in my arm. My shoulder felt impinged. This video indicates impingement. What is the best exercise and stretches to remedy this. Thank you.
how many months rest needed ? im feeling pain in shoulder ,think that i got injured while doing shoulder workout ,now feeling pain for even 5kg shoulder wourkout on left shoudler. now unable to do it
Many thanks for this video. I was convinced after the first 2 exercises I had impingement as they were very painful. On exercise 2. I can't raise my arm past 45 degrees. But then I also found exercises 3 and 4 very painful also. For exercise 3 I cannot even get my arm anywhere near horizontal without supporting it with my good arm. So I am a bit confused.
No need to be confused...you likely have a combination of the issues. Check out these articles next: www.precisionmovement.coach/shoulder-impingement-stretches/ www.precisionmovement.coach/sprained-ac-joint/
I'd like to help you out with that...can you tell me more about the pain that you are experiencing? Where does it originate? Does it radiate into any other body parts near by? Which movements are affected most?
hey Mr Wong the test are fine but if i bend my arm 90° and move in aduction my shoulder locks and the ball socket stop moving if straight arm no problem any advice? Thank you for your channel and willingness to help people.
@@PrecisionMovementCoach Great video- its to the point, however one gap. What does it mean with pain/discomfort from 0-35 degrees in the painful arc test? The discomfort/pain goes away almost completely when I get past 35 degrees.. thanks in advance.. just looking for a lead..
thank you I've been trying to get this information while looking up so many different videos and this is the first one that's properly explained it to me
Hi Eric! Thank you for these very helpful videos! After doing the tests, I'm still not certain what I've got - painful arc test in the scapular plane and bad cop tests were both negative, but I had pain in the Hawkins test AND the abduction test in the top position! Does this mean I have a little of both impingement and AC joint dysfunction, or maybe something completely different?
It's likely a combination of the two. Check out these articles: www.precisionmovement.coach/shoulder-impingement-stretches/ and www.precisionmovement.coach/sprained-ac-joint/
Thanks for this. While playing baseball I dove with my left arm fully outstretched landing with full body weight. Felt pain and weakness immediately. Can't even hold a plate at work. Pain radiates down my arm. After doing these test (first 3 caused pain) bad cop test zero pain. Seems like a trip to the doctor is in order lol.
Thankyou! I've had a nagging pain in my shoulder for a few weeks now, didn't know whether to look for AC rehab or impingement... these tests have pretty much confirmed it's impingement for me. Will check out your recommendations on relief now! Thanks!
I'm glad that my material helped you figure it out. Did you score for AC joint dysfunction? If so, this article can help you out: www.precisionmovement.coach/sprained-ac-joint/
Hello Eric, thank you for the awesome video. Thanks to your instructions I was able to identify that my shoulder has some degree of AC Joint dysfunction. I've been working out for more than 12 years with roughly 85% of attendance. Three weeks ago, I started practicing calisthenics because I no longer feel satisfaction out of weightlifting and realized I wouldn't be making progressing due to lack of mobility abd pain in my shoulder. They were preventing me to do even the beginner exercises. I then started doing some physiotherapy exercises for scapula stabilization. It's been two weeks that I started and they are really improving the shoulders mobility and at times reducing even pain. I'm really enjoying doing calisthenics exercises but I am concern with those exercises that may be counterproductive for the shoulder recovery. Do you have any recommendation as to what calisthenics exercise I should and shouldn't be doing? I'm often using the rings :) Thank you!
Thanks for the kind words and for following along. I would take a break from any activities that you cannot do pain free until you address the root cause of your issue. Start here: www.precisionmovement.coach/sprained-ac-joint/ And consider this program: www.precisionmovement.coach/get-shoulder-control
Hey Eric! I didn't experience any sort of particular pinching pain in any of the exercises. I feel a sort of dull soreness. I had gotten injured about 4 months ago. I would have this dull pain in my left shoulder whenever I'd do side laterals and overhead press. It started happening after I'd started doing bench dips and heavy side lateral raises. I've given myself 4 months to heal, but it just isn't going away, the intensity of the dull pain has somewhat decreased I guess. I don't feel that pinching pain. It just feels like there's that sort of dull soreness. Please help. 🙏🏻
Glad that you figured it out. Use the Shoulder Pain Solution program to properly address the issue: www.precisionmovement.coach/shoulder-pain-solution-yt - Coach Joshua, Team PM
Thank you so much. Definitely an AC joint disorder. I cut out all of my weight bearing activities for more than a month now and seeing no improvement. Now, hoping site exercises will be the key to ending this miserable pain.
You got this! The resources in the video description can help as can this program: www.precisionmovement.coach/shoulder-pain-solution-yt - Coach Joshua, Team PM
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That is a good sign. What were the results of the tests? Check out the resources available in the video description for more ideas :) - Coach Joshua, Team PM
First off, thanks for making and sharing this video. Secondly, while trying out these tests I noticed that I didn't experience pain, per se, but I did note mobility issues that were in line with the areas of AC joint dysfunction. At some points of the tests, a mild discomfort bordering to what could be described as pain would emerge. I've had mobility issues in my left shoulder area for many years and it's never really been addressed. Is it possible that it's due to some injury (or something) that has led to ACJD after being left untreated, or is it more likely to be something else? Would you suggest I still follow the instructions and recommendations found in your link? To clarify: I have mentioned this to doctors, physiotherapists, gym coaches and none have taken this seriously (which could be a result of me then having other, more pressing, issues, of course) so I haven't either, even though it does prevent me from performing certain types of movement and exercises.
I take your seriously. Check out the material in both of these articles next: www.precisionmovement.coach/shoulder-impingement-stretches/ and www.precisionmovement.coach/sprained-ac-joint/
@@PrecisionMovementCoach Thank you very, very much for both the reply and the links. I'll make sure to follow your tips and give the stretches and exercises a go!
I have been told for years my shoulder pain is a result of carpal tunnel syndrome causing impingement. First time anyone has given me any other issue to look at Thanks, I appreciate this a lot.
Thanks for the video. I am so glad I found your channel. I think I have both types of shoulder problems and are going through your TH-cam videos as well as the mobile app. So excited to try other routines and programs as well. Cheers!
You are so welcome and we are glad that it's helpful. The resources in the video description can help you to make more progress. Especially, the Shoulder Pain Solution program. We are here if you need more advice or assistance :) - Coach Joshua, Team PM
Thank you, I been having this right shoulder pain for so long and never figure what it was causing it. I thought pinching or whatever it is call, now after doing all the test, clearly I have AC joint pain. I will follow up with you rehab for the AC joint pain and hopefully with time, I can fix the issue. I tell you what, I just recently subscribed to you and help alot with 2 other issues (Not sure why I am doing other first versus my shoulder), just want to say thank you so much, as well a handshake.
Thanks for this amazing video. I went to a Chiro and didn't get as helpful information this video. You taught me a lot and gave me some quality direction to addressing my shoulder pain
This video really helped to clarify what I have, initially I thought it was impingement, but after the tests it looks more like an AC joint issue. Excellent video!
Hi Eric! Due to a fall on a hiking trail to I have shoulder discomfort. Received MRI results today. Right shoulder: Supraspinatus and infraspinatus tendon, full thickness tear with tendon retraction to level of the AC joint. Left shoulder: Supraspinatus tendon-full tear with retraction to level of AC joint. Infraspinatus -full thickness
Left shoulder- full thickness tear with tendon retraction to level of distral clavicle. Can this heal without surgery? Can raise my right arm over my shoulder with slight pain. Can only raise left arm to shoulder level.
Hi! This program can help: www.precisionmovement.coach/shoulder-pain-solution-yt You will have to work within a pain-free range and gradually increase it slowly. Avoiding surgery is a definite possibility. Let us know if you have any more questions :) - Coach Joshua, Team PM
For Hawkins test if I grab my opposite shoulder no pain. But if I grab a little further behind like reaching to shoulder blade then I get a pain in my shoulder.
Also I’ve had chondromalcia sorry about spelling for 6 weeks going to PT and it has not gotten better. Should I be leaning towards surgery? A lot of my problems come from heavy lifting and triathlon training
This program can help you to address the root cause of the shoulder issue: www.precisionmovement.coach/get-shoulder-control Check out this program for your knee issue: www.precisionmovement.coach/avoid-the-knife/meniscus-program
Nice work. Make sure to check out the resources in the video description for ideas on how to address the root cause of your issue :) - Coach Joshua, Team PM
Very Very Informative. I'm having strange intense shoulder pain for past 2 weeks after a bad Resistance Band exercise. I have pain in the impingement category . Also my shoulder tendon has started moving over bone and causing pain. Thank you for this video. I'm Subscribing your channel and liked the video.
I hope that the assessments were useful. What were the results? This program can help you to address the root cause of the issue: www.precisionmovement.coach/get-shoulder-control
my wife's 2-3 years of frozen shoulder was fixed by fixing her sitting ergonomics. she had gone thru tons of therapy/tcm/massage, but her pain recurs. until one day i noticed how she 'leans forward' sitting style(supporting her head with her hand and elbow) while having hours of meetings thru her laptops.
Man thank you so much for this video, I've had a shoulder injury for about 3 weeks now from weightlifting, and looked at a bunch of self diagnosis videos none helped me until i found this one, now I know I have ac joint dysfunction
Hi Eric, great video! I'm a bit confused with my results. 1st- Hawkins = there is pain so most likely it's impingement. 2nd - painful arc = doesn't hurt much. 3rd - horizontal abduction = doesnt hurt much either. Now the tricky part. In 4th - bad cop = it hurts so most likely AC joint but it's not in the top of the shoulder that hurts. I'm still not sure if it's impingement or AC joint.
Thanks Eric. That cleared things up for me. I'll go check out your video for shoulder impingement. It's really starting to slow my progress. Thanks again for the information.
Glad it was helpful! What were the results? Let us know if you need any more advice. We want to make sure that you properly address the root cause of your issue. Thanks for trying it out and trusting us to guide your efforts. Talk to you soon :) - Coach Joshua, Team PM
Or it could adhesive capsulitis. Internal joint pathology can often mask as rotor cuff or bursopathy issues. A lot of my patients are misdiagnosed. Great video!
Thanks for showing these tests. I've done them all and have severe pain doing the modified Hawkins test and minor pain doing the other 3. This suggests that I am suffering mostly from impingement. I will be looking at your shoulder pain solution program to learn how to reduce this pain as it is major problem for me. Thank you for everything you do to help us better understand the specifics about how to deal with the pains that develop as we age.
Thanks for trying them out and I'm glad that you have narrowed down your issue. SPS can definitely help. Let us know if you need any help getting started :) - Coach Joshua, Team PM
Hope this video gets boosted by the algorithm more. I have been confused by google results' diagnoses on whether its impingement or something else. Great content short and "Precise". Thanks for uploading this gem.
I have left face, neck and shoulder pain. I tend to sleep with my head turned waaaaay over to the right and I like to sleep on my sides. Hopefully this video can help me figure out what is going on. I had my teenager help physiotape my shoulder.
Hi Eric, Impingement, but the scapula is also involved so I think it's more than just that. I think rotator cuff is also involved. FMS is also a diagnosis. It's frustrating.
Love your channel. It helped me alot with lifting and some injuries . Can you please make a video about "my left shoulder pulls itself forward when i try to do any workout while sitting or standing, like bicep curls,overhead dumbbell press etc.." My physical therapist couldn't help neither any chiropractor so far and there isn't any video on it on TH-cam either. Thanks i highly appreciate.
Fantastic work. While all these are true it is possible also for impingement to be sore on the ac joint tests and vice versa. But in general thos is true.
I love the test I thought I have something with my shoulder but none of this exercises make feel pain now I think is my back who is hurting my and that was a referral pain thank so much to clarify my thoughts
Thank you! This finally gives me an answer, in accordance to a MRI finding. It’s been a little over 3 years since my injury which at that time I couldn’t move or extend my arm in anyway. PT was worthless and recently an injection which didn’t help. I believe that if I had purchased a sling/brace back then this would have healed and I wouldn’t still be in pain 3 years later. Thanks again!
Glad that it helped! The resources in the video description will give you more ideas on how to properly address the root cause of your issue :) - Coach Joshua, Team PM
IN THIS VIDEO
00:00 - Intro
01:18 - Hawkins Self Test
01:57 - Painful Arc Test
03:14 - Horizontal Adduction Test
03:55 - AC Joint Distraction (Bad Cop) Test
05:05 - Next Steps and Recommendations
I had pain in the last two tests, so seems like AC Joint disfunction. Question: could side-sleeping cause AC joint disfunction? Especially since the way I have my bottom arm when side sleeping has lots of internal rotation?
I’m having a sharp pain in the horizontal adduction test. A few weeks a ago I think I tore something . I can’t even bench press a plate with my right side . Also very hard for me to feel my tricep on that same side . Help me !
@@svalbard01 Get started on the AC Joint exercises featured in the video description. Sleeping posture can definitely be a root cause of the issue.
- Coach Joshua, Team PM
@@raymonddavis7808 what were the results of the other tests?
- Coach Joshua, Team PM
Hi doctor, I felt down with my shoulder six months ago , I went to the hospital after three month , x ray was done I was found with acute upper respiratory infection of multitude in unspecified areas and joint pains I took medication but could see any change went back again the same problem was discovered..my joint has a pop sound, it's itch alot more so when am relaxed .I feel more pain in my neck too. Help me doctor what can I use or do am really stressed up
Been researching shoulder issues for almost 2 years and this is the best BY FAR that I have come across ! Great - thanks a lot !
No problem...I'm happy to help!
distracting the glenohumeral joint can reproduce pain in a supraspinatus tendinopathy (tendinitis is an old term that is being phased out because we are finding there isn't much inflammation in tendon injuries). The painful arc test is positive around 60-120 degrees (in most literature) of shoulder abduction and not 45. Test is also performed with thumbs pointing up. This is why I never encourage patients to search google and youtube for self test or exercises, unless referenced from published research. Sorry if I come off as a prick but just making you a better coach :)
@@mike4878 where have you studied? What can one do with AC Joint dysfunction?
seriosuly! I thought this whole time i had shoulder impingement I might have AC JOINT paint definitely going to talk with my bone doctor
best tips from hundreds of youtube that I have watched,thank you
Or it could be trigger points in the teres minor, major or infraspinatus. These refer pain to lateral and front delets and can make elevating shoulder into positions shown painful and make sudden movements have a sharp intense pain. I went to several physios randall of them look for some type of "impingement". None of them helped much. Then I pulled out my trigger therapy manual and did self massage on the muscles I mentioned and got in 5 mins what physio couldn't achieve in months. All without spending money on physios. Simply your muscles may have knots from over use or a single overload and they need to be released. Get a ball, rubber with some give, find the spots by leaning into ball against a wall. I hadn't done pushups or benched in months, 5 mins of this and I could push up and bench. Still feeling better days later. But if knots are gnarly theyll need a little work daily or every other day. I'm not a therapist, just someone with plenty of injuries that feel like joint issues that fixed them with trigger point therapy. It could as described in the vid but investigate trigger points as it can be done by yourself easily and cheap and gets fast results IF it's the issue or part of the issue.
Best video!! Tops
Got right to the POINT!! THANK YOU!!
Wow!
That is so great to read. Thank you! :)
I did this test i have no pain but i have a discomfort in my left shoulder! Grinding,crackling sound!!😅
Which of the tests caused discomfort, if any? Noises and grinding are often normal and are likely nothing to be concerned with.
@@PrecisionMovementCoach when i do bench press (dumbells) after the 1 set i feel discomfort in left shoulder! This disappear after some time! From last 1 month i have this issue should i go to the doctor! Thank you!
Check out this article before you go to the doctor: www.precisionmovement.coach/bicep-tendonitis/
I have that same problem
I can't put my arm behind my back. argh
Amazing! Here a summary for me and others:
1. (modified) Hawkins Test | Pain -> Impingement / Rotatorcuff issue
2. Painful Arch (Lateral Abduction) | Pain between 45°-120° -> Impingement, above -> AC-Joint
3. Horizontal Adduction | Pain -> AC-Joint Dysfuntion
4. Distraction Test/ Bad Cop Test | Pain -> AC-Joint (Impingement symptoms should be relieved here)
Thanks a lot for the great informative and helpful Video!
Wow! Thanks for that summary :)
thaaanks👍
thank you so much. I have been suffering from shoulder pain for the last 6 months but my chiropractor said its impingement but could not help me at all. Now from your video test I think its ac joint injury - finally I will be relieved of pain- can't thank you enough!!
Good stuff!
Absolutely right.. I have impingement that my doctor confirmed by an MRI and everything. And these tests are additional confirmation.
Happy that you figured it out.
How are you now?
- Coach Joshua, Team PM
By far the best group of tests I have found. The explanation of pain between here and here was bang on for me. Thank you very much for this information .
You are welcome and thanks for trying them out :)
Thank you so much!! I did these tests and apparently failed all the a.c. joint ones😭😭 but im relieved to find out what i have now. So clear and concise, great job
Sorry for the late reply. How are you now?
- Coach Joshua, Team PM
@Precision Movement that's ok! I'm actually amazing! It took about 3 weeks to recover from what I had before and I've been amazing ever since. I just did a few rehab exercises for a few days out of the week and I was good as new👌
@@karinamorado7795what exercises did u do ?
I have every sign of impingement, according to your video. Thank you for helping! I'd never self-diagnose but now I feel like I can try more specific things to see if I can make it feel better.
Nice work! Make sure to check out the resources in the video description for ideas on how to address the root cause of your issue :)
- Coach Joshua, Team PM
@@PrecisionMovementCoach thank you so much 🙂
I'm glad I performed the tests you showed in this video. Years ago I separated my left a/c joint in a motorcycle wreck(high side) and the shoulder is giving me a lot of trouble for about a month. It seems that my current problem is impingement. Thanks for making it more easy to describe to my doctor.
You are welcome :)
Mr.Wong I want to thank you for your video.It finally brought to my knowledge what I am experiencing in my shoulder.I didnt want to to exercises that could have potentially aggravated my condition.This is the first time Ive experienced such pain and discomfort in my shoulder.Now I know it is serious impingement.I cant even raise my arm sideways 5 inches without bad pain.
Glad to help.
How are you now?
- Coach Joshua, Team PM
Hey Eric
I have been experiencing right shoulder pain for like 7 months . I did your tests and I didn't really feel any pain. My shoulder pain occurs mostly in this exercises: lateral rises, triceps cable pulldown, push ups, bench press . I feel the pain in the area between my shoulder and my triceps.
It can be sharp pain for a moment when I do sudden moves with my hand .
Try this next:
th-cam.com/video/o9fiTFfW4uU/w-d-xo.html
- Coach Joshua, Team PM
This is exactly what i have. Its the fk worst.
BROOO you described precisely what I have been going through. Could you please tell me if you’ve gotten any better or what you did or anything. I’ve taken a 1 month break from the gym and it’s still exactly how you described sharp pain when doing sudden movements especially when doing bench press etc
i have the exact same problem
I just received my MRI and I have Rotator cuff tendinopathy. I had pain on the 1, 2 and 3 test (even when I do not have AC issues), and not in the 4th. I self diagnosed impingement and it was accurate. Hence this video describes with great precision what I was diagnosed. Thank you!.
Nicely done!
Make sure to check out the resources in the video description for that issue :)
- Coach Joshua, Team PM
Great video, I've watched several videos that I never got a clear conclusion with, thank you very much.
Glad it was helpful! You're most welcome :)
Clear easy to follow descriptions, Eric I think you'd make an excellent teacher.
Thanks!
Thanx man. I performed all the tests with you. Impingement. Distinct pain during the Hawkins test but zero pain in all the other tests. Once in a while a youtuber knows his shyt. Thanks again.
You are welcome.
How are you doing now?
- Coach Joshua, Team PM
Wow! Searching the web for hours. Thought I had shoulder impingement. Your tests show it's AC joint dysfunction. Now to figure out what that is exactly and how to treat it. Thanks!!!
Sorry for the late reply.
How are you doing now?
- Coach Joshua, Team PM
hold on a second. This man just gave me my cure. I tried the ac joint distraction test, and I instantly felt my impingement get better. Holy God. Thank You so much. You're amazing!!!!!!!!
Awesome!
Thank you for these tests. Had problems for 5 years. Definitely impingement. Changed diet and reduced inflammation, but as I raise my arm, I will hear and feel about 5-6 clicks.
Make sure to check out the impingement resources in the video description. The noises should subside with time but keep in mind that such noises are normal to a degree.
- Coach Joshua, Team PM
I want to sincerely thank you. It was perfect for me and really helped me diagnose and choose the right rehab regime. Just because of this video I feel so better
You're so welcome!
have AC ligament damage from snowboard wipe out. after watching scores of videos, yours are the best.
very informative and to the point. thank you Eric!!
Thanks for the kind words and good luck with the recovery.
Best tests I've used so far...
Nice!
How are you now?
- Coach Joshua, Team PM
This what I have. I also have numbness in my back shoulder blade area and down the arm. Stiffness in both shoulders.
Thank you so much.
Sorry for the late reply. Did you resolve your issue?
You are an amazing professional! I just can't thank you enough for all your videos. They really are life changing!
Much appreciated!
Finally what I was looking for. I had a grade 2 ac separation injury 15 months ago. Recovered and finally my shoulder felt stronger than before the injury. A week ago as I was doing a chopping motion on a heavy bag my shoulder felt a little sore, that was followed by popping, restricted movment, pain and weaknesses in my arm. My shoulder felt impinged. This video indicates impingement. What is the best exercise and stretches to remedy this. Thank you.
how many months rest needed ? im feeling pain in shoulder ,think that i got injured while doing shoulder workout ,now feeling pain for even 5kg shoulder wourkout on left shoudler. now unable to do it
Many thanks for this video.
I was convinced after the first 2 exercises I had impingement as they were very painful. On exercise 2. I can't raise my arm past 45 degrees.
But then I also found exercises 3 and 4 very painful also. For exercise 3 I cannot even get my arm anywhere near horizontal without supporting it with my good arm. So I am a bit confused.
No need to be confused...you likely have a combination of the issues. Check out these articles next:
www.precisionmovement.coach/shoulder-impingement-stretches/
www.precisionmovement.coach/sprained-ac-joint/
I don't have pain from any of these! But I have this stupid sore shoulder that kills for over a month now!
same here dude. So annoying :(
I'd like to help you out with that...can you tell me more about the pain that you are experiencing? Where does it originate? Does it radiate into any other body parts near by? Which movements are affected most?
My front deltoid become very sore after 1-2 minutes when i'm combing my hair or using the hair dryer
hey Mr Wong the test are fine but if i bend my arm 90° and move in aduction my shoulder locks and the ball socket stop moving if straight arm no problem any advice? Thank you for your channel and willingness to help people.
@@PrecisionMovementCoach Great video- its to the point, however one gap. What does it mean with pain/discomfort from 0-35 degrees in the painful arc test? The discomfort/pain goes away almost completely when I get past 35 degrees.. thanks in advance.. just looking for a lead..
thank you I've been trying to get this information while looking up so many different videos and this is the first one that's properly explained it to me
Glad I could help!
I get pain and limited motion on all of these test for both my shoulders. So I guess I'm screwed
Not at all.
Now that you know what to focus on try out the exercises in the video description :)
- Coach Joshua, Team PM
Good tests, thanks. I got first place in the impingement category. :(
how is the recovery
Update on your shoulder?
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How are you now?
Hi Eric! Thank you for these very helpful videos! After doing the tests, I'm still not certain what I've got - painful arc test in the scapular plane and bad cop tests were both negative, but I had pain in the Hawkins test AND the abduction test in the top position! Does this mean I have a little of both impingement and AC joint dysfunction, or maybe something completely different?
It's likely a combination of the two. Check out these articles: www.precisionmovement.coach/shoulder-impingement-stretches/
and
www.precisionmovement.coach/sprained-ac-joint/
same!
Thanks for this. While playing baseball I dove with my left arm fully outstretched landing with full body weight. Felt pain and weakness immediately. Can't even hold a plate at work. Pain radiates down my arm. After doing these test (first 3 caused pain) bad cop test zero pain. Seems like a trip to the doctor is in order lol.
I'm so sorry this happened!! Sounds terrible. Did you manage to recover?🤞🤞
Sorry for the late reply.
Did you ever resolve your issue?
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Thankyou! I've had a nagging pain in my shoulder for a few weeks now, didn't know whether to look for AC rehab or impingement... these tests have pretty much confirmed it's impingement for me. Will check out your recommendations on relief now! Thanks!
Glad it helped! :)
Ya know what I like about this guy's channel .He responds really fast. Says a lot considering how big his channel has got .
We love our followers :)
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I thought I had impingement for the past week or so. I was wrong! Thank you!
I'm glad that my material helped you figure it out. Did you score for AC joint dysfunction? If so, this article can help you out: www.precisionmovement.coach/sprained-ac-joint/
Hello Eric, thank you for the awesome video. Thanks to your instructions I was able to identify that my shoulder has some degree of AC Joint dysfunction.
I've been working out for more than 12 years with roughly 85% of attendance. Three weeks ago, I started practicing calisthenics because I no longer feel satisfaction out of weightlifting and realized I wouldn't be making progressing due to lack of mobility abd pain in my shoulder. They were preventing me to do even the beginner exercises.
I then started doing some physiotherapy exercises for scapula stabilization. It's been two weeks that I started and they are really improving the shoulders mobility and at times reducing even pain.
I'm really enjoying doing calisthenics exercises but I am concern with those exercises that may be counterproductive for the shoulder recovery. Do you have any recommendation as to what calisthenics exercise I should and shouldn't be doing? I'm often using the rings :)
Thank you!
Thanks for the kind words and for following along.
I would take a break from any activities that you cannot do pain free until you address the root cause of your issue.
Start here:
www.precisionmovement.coach/sprained-ac-joint/
And consider this program:
www.precisionmovement.coach/get-shoulder-control
I learned more from this video than two trips to an orthopedic specialist. Thank you.
You are welcome!
You are SO helpful. Demonstrations, information(in an understandable way) and delivery are unsurpassed! Thank you.
You are so welcome!
Such an informative video for shoulder pain differential diagnosis. Thank you so much for making this video!
You are welcome and thanks for watching :)
The pain is mostly in the traps when I did this.
The Hawkins technique actually improved the shoulder pain for me and it felt great through the other tests 😂
Now there's some quick results
Hey Eric! I didn't experience any sort of particular pinching pain in any of the exercises. I feel a sort of dull soreness. I had gotten injured about 4 months ago. I would have this dull pain in my left shoulder whenever I'd do side laterals and overhead press. It started happening after I'd started doing bench dips and heavy side lateral raises. I've given myself 4 months to heal, but it just isn't going away, the intensity of the dull pain has somewhat decreased I guess. I don't feel that pinching pain. It just feels like there's that sort of dull soreness. Please help. 🙏🏻
In the first two exercises I feel that dull soreness though(little intensity). In the last two not so much.
Check this out: www.precisionmovement.coach/bicep-tendonitis/
@@PrecisionMovementCoach thank you so much coach! 🙏🏻
@@apps99pulks did it go away
@@apps99pulkshey.. i’m going through this right now. Did it heal in a meantime or you just started living with it?
Thanks, I just injured myself this morning from doing pull ups without warming up and this helped me to identify what type of injury im dealing with
Glad that you figured it out.
Use the Shoulder Pain Solution program to properly address the issue:
www.precisionmovement.coach/shoulder-pain-solution-yt
- Coach Joshua, Team PM
Thank you so much. Definitely an AC joint disorder. I cut out all of my weight bearing activities for more than a month now and seeing no improvement. Now, hoping site exercises will be the key to ending this miserable pain.
You got this!
The resources in the video description can help as can this program:
www.precisionmovement.coach/shoulder-pain-solution-yt
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The Only One that Hurt for me was the 2.High arch BUT only at the TOP . The rest were EASILY PAIN free what could it be ? @
Check this out: www.precisionmovement.coach/strained-rotator-cuff/
Thank you, great to know!🙏🏻
Great tests. I failed all 4, maybe that's why I can't sleep XD. I think it's Covid inactivity syndrome (just made that up, but...) !
I have no pain when doing (cop move
I'm so confused, only the 1st test hurt so wtf do I have?
rabies..
Sorry for the late reply.
Did you ever resolve your issue?
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I can't put my hands anywhere near round my back. I've got shoulder impingement and arthritis
Sorry for the late reply.
How are things now?
- Coach Joshua, Team PM
Absolutely excellent video. Thank you so very much for sharing this information
It is our pleasure :)
Thank you !!!! You finally solved the riddle of my shoulder pain for past 3 months !
Impingement. All tests say impingement.
Again thank you !
I'm glad that you finally figured it out!
Huh, my shoulder started feeling better after these tests. Hope that lasts
That is a good sign.
What were the results of the tests?
Check out the resources available in the video description for more ideas :)
- Coach Joshua, Team PM
amazing material. Thank you.
You're welcome!
First off, thanks for making and sharing this video. Secondly, while trying out these tests I noticed that I didn't experience pain, per se, but I did note mobility issues that were in line with the areas of AC joint dysfunction. At some points of the tests, a mild discomfort bordering to what could be described as pain would emerge. I've had mobility issues in my left shoulder area for many years and it's never really been addressed. Is it possible that it's due to some injury (or something) that has led to ACJD after being left untreated, or is it more likely to be something else? Would you suggest I still follow the instructions and recommendations found in your link?
To clarify: I have mentioned this to doctors, physiotherapists, gym coaches and none have taken this seriously (which could be a result of me then having other, more pressing, issues, of course) so I haven't either, even though it does prevent me from performing certain types of movement and exercises.
I take your seriously. Check out the material in both of these articles next: www.precisionmovement.coach/shoulder-impingement-stretches/ and www.precisionmovement.coach/sprained-ac-joint/
@@PrecisionMovementCoach Thank you very, very much for both the reply and the links. I'll make sure to follow your tips and give the stretches and exercises a go!
I have been told for years my shoulder pain is a result of carpal tunnel syndrome causing impingement. First time anyone has given me any other issue to look at Thanks, I appreciate this a lot.
I'm glad that you have found this material. What was the result of the tests?
@@PrecisionMovementCoach It looks more like I have an AC Joint injury.
Check out this article and the exercises that it describes: www.precisionmovement.coach/sprained-ac-joint/
Thank you very much for your video, I now know what is causing me issues in the shoulders! Nice work and once again thank you
You are so welcome!
I didn’t get pain on any of them but I normally always have shoulder pain
Check out this article: www.precisionmovement.coach/bicep-tendonitis/
Barely can move my elbow up on the Hawkins test
Sorry for the late reply.
Did you ever resolve your issue?
- Coach Joshua, Team PM
@@PrecisionMovementCoachstill hurts when I do Hawkins test on the right arm, also sharp pain on the bad cop test on the backside of my shoulder.
@@JayoJs this program can help you out:
www.precisionmovement.coach/shoulder-pain-solution-yt
:)
- Coach Joshua, Team PM
Had pain in every test, time to see a different doctor, he says it muscle strain, obviously not.
Check out these articles: www.precisionmovement.coach/sprained-ac-joint/ www.precisionmovement.coach/shoulder-impingement-stretches/
@@PrecisionMovementCoach --> FYI. the 2nd article brings up an error code.
Thanks for the video. I am so glad I found your channel. I think I have both types of shoulder problems and are going through your TH-cam videos as well as the mobile app. So excited to try other routines and programs as well. Cheers!
You are so welcome and we are glad that it's helpful.
The resources in the video description can help you to make more progress. Especially, the Shoulder Pain Solution program.
We are here if you need more advice or assistance :)
- Coach Joshua, Team PM
Thank you,
I been having this right shoulder pain for so long and never figure what it was causing it. I thought pinching or whatever it is call, now after doing all the test, clearly I have AC joint pain.
I will follow up with you rehab for the AC joint pain and hopefully with time, I can fix the issue.
I tell you what, I just recently subscribed to you and help alot with 2 other issues (Not sure why I am doing other first versus my shoulder), just want to say thank you so much, as well a handshake.
Glad it helped!
Thanks for this amazing video. I went to a Chiro and didn't get as helpful information this video. You taught me a lot and gave me some quality direction to addressing my shoulder pain
Happy to help!
Boom! I’ve been searching for a simple clarification. Thank you.
Glad it was helpful!
This video really helped to clarify what I have, initially I thought it was impingement, but after the tests it looks more like an AC joint issue. Excellent video!
Glad it was helpful! Check out this article next: www.precisionmovement.coach/sprained-ac-joint/
Same here,, have been struggling for months now, great informative video will be clicking on the next link. Thank you Respect 🤙🏴
Hi Eric! Due to a fall on a hiking trail to I have shoulder discomfort. Received MRI results today. Right shoulder: Supraspinatus and infraspinatus tendon, full thickness tear with tendon retraction to level of the AC joint.
Left shoulder: Supraspinatus tendon-full tear with retraction to level of AC joint. Infraspinatus -full thickness
Left shoulder- full thickness tear with tendon retraction to level of distral clavicle. Can this heal without surgery? Can raise my right arm over my shoulder with slight pain. Can only raise left arm to shoulder level.
Hi!
This program can help:
www.precisionmovement.coach/shoulder-pain-solution-yt
You will have to work within a pain-free range and gradually increase it slowly. Avoiding surgery is a definite possibility.
Let us know if you have any more questions :)
- Coach Joshua, Team PM
Thank you!
Thanks man ! I've watched a lot of video's and this one is one of the shorter ones yet most clear. thanks again !
You're welcome!
finally easy to follow step to determine type of injury, got to know I got an impingment problem and now know how to go about correcting it
Nice work!
Thanks for trying it out :)
Wow! Best comment today :)
Thanks for stopping by :)
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For Hawkins test if I grab my opposite shoulder no pain. But if I grab a little further behind like reaching to shoulder blade then I get a pain in my shoulder.
It still could be impingement. What was the result of the other tests.
I had some pain well shoulder was horizontal to ground and at top. I can’t reach around to pull my other shoulder down. Terrible mobility
Also I’ve had chondromalcia sorry about spelling for 6 weeks going to PT and it has not gotten better. Should I be leaning towards surgery? A lot of my problems come from heavy lifting and triathlon training
This program can help you to address the root cause of the shoulder issue: www.precisionmovement.coach/get-shoulder-control
Check out this program for your knee issue: www.precisionmovement.coach/avoid-the-knife/meniscus-program
Great video, has confirmed the rotator cuff impingement for me. Thanks
Nice work.
Make sure to check out the resources in the video description for ideas on how to address the root cause of your issue :)
- Coach Joshua, Team PM
Best advice I've heard after a long search! Thank you!!!
You're welcome!
Very Very Informative.
I'm having strange intense shoulder pain for past 2 weeks after a bad Resistance Band exercise. I have pain in the impingement category . Also my shoulder tendon has started moving over bone and causing pain.
Thank you for this video.
I'm Subscribing your channel and liked the video.
I hope that the assessments were useful. What were the results?
This program can help you to address the root cause of the issue: www.precisionmovement.coach/get-shoulder-control
my wife's 2-3 years of frozen shoulder was fixed by fixing her sitting ergonomics. she had gone thru tons of therapy/tcm/massage, but her pain recurs. until one day i noticed how she 'leans forward' sitting style(supporting her head with her hand and elbow) while having hours of meetings thru her laptops.
These videos should help her out:
th-cam.com/video/WesfZDzPD8I/w-d-xo.html
- Coach Joshua, Team PM
your descriptions match with my symptoms for potentially impingement perfectly, at least i now know where to start
Good stuff!
This program can help you to make faster progress:
www.precisionmovement.coach/shoulder-pain-solution-yt
- Coach Joshua, Team PM
Very big help for diagnosing my problem. Feels like impingement. Thank you.
You're welcome!
Man thank you so much for this video, I've had a shoulder injury for about 3 weeks now from weightlifting, and looked at a bunch of self diagnosis videos none helped me until i found this one, now I know I have ac joint dysfunction
You are welcome.
Hi Eric, great video! I'm a bit confused with my results. 1st- Hawkins = there is pain so most likely it's impingement. 2nd - painful arc = doesn't hurt much. 3rd - horizontal abduction = doesnt hurt much either. Now the tricky part. In 4th - bad cop = it hurts so most likely AC joint but it's not in the top of the shoulder that hurts. I'm still not sure if it's impingement or AC joint.
It could be both :)
Check out the resources in the video description for ideas on how to address both issues.
- Coach Joshua, Team PM
Thanks Eric. That cleared things up for me. I'll go check out your video for shoulder impingement. It's really starting to slow my progress. Thanks again for the information.
Good stuff!
Fantastic shoulder pain diagnosing
help video
here!!! Thank you!! ☺
Glad it was helpful!
What were the results? Let us know if you need any more advice. We want to make sure that you properly address the root cause of your issue.
Thanks for trying it out and trusting us to guide your efforts.
Talk to you soon :)
- Coach Joshua, Team PM
Having seen a half dozen or more orthopedic surgeons about my shoulders, this guy seems more knowledgeable than any of them.
Thanks!
Having visited pro therapists for months (with no effect) this is finally a clear and simple tests to determine what the issue is.
So glad that it helped!
Thanks for your videos man, last month im suffering shoulder pain but thanks to u its finally recovered 🥰🥰
Have a good day sir 😊
Yay!
Thank you for this! The last test was actually feeling good instead of painful so it helped me confirm the shoulder impingement.
Nice!
Or it could adhesive capsulitis. Internal joint pathology can often mask as rotor cuff or bursopathy issues. A lot of my patients are misdiagnosed.
Great video!
I'm glad that you like the material and thanks for adding your advice.
Thanks for showing these tests. I've done them all and have severe pain doing the modified Hawkins test and minor pain doing the other 3. This suggests that I am suffering mostly from impingement. I will be looking at your shoulder pain solution program to learn how to reduce this pain as it is major problem for me. Thank you for everything you do to help us better understand the specifics about how to deal with the pains that develop as we age.
Thanks for trying them out and I'm glad that you have narrowed down your issue.
SPS can definitely help.
Let us know if you need any help getting started :)
- Coach Joshua, Team PM
Pete - did you do the shoulder program? Did it help? I also have Hawkins test pain. Thanks
Hope this video gets boosted by the algorithm more. I have been confused by google results' diagnoses on whether its impingement or something else. Great content short and "Precise". Thanks for uploading this gem.
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Thank you for this video. I could identify my issue with this and looking for more such wonderful information
Glad it was helpful!
I have left face, neck and shoulder pain. I tend to sleep with my head turned waaaaay over to the right and I like to sleep on my sides. Hopefully this video can help me figure out what is going on. I had my teenager help physiotape my shoulder.
Your sleeping posture definitely sounds provocative. What were the results of the tests?
Hi Eric, Impingement, but the scapula is also involved so I think it's more than just that. I think rotator cuff is also involved. FMS is also a diagnosis. It's frustrating.
Start here: www.precisionmovement.coach/shoulder-impingement-stretches/
Thank you very much.
You're a nice and competent guy. Thank you for helping.
I appreciate that!
I can concur - MRI proven impingement, and pain's occurring exactly when and where he said.
Nice confirmation :)
Love your channel. It helped me alot with lifting and some injuries .
Can you please make a video about "my left shoulder pulls itself forward when i try to do any workout while sitting or standing, like bicep curls,overhead dumbbell press etc.." My physical therapist couldn't help neither any chiropractor so far and there isn't any video on it on TH-cam either. Thanks i highly appreciate.
This sounds like a control issue. Does it happen when you are lifting any or even no weight?
Thank you so much for the careful explanation. I am most grateful.
It's our pleasure!
- Coach Joshua, Team PM
Fantastic! I have impingement, thanks to your last test. You've helped me tremendously!
Happy to help! Here's your next stop: www.precisionmovement.coach/shoulder-impingement-stretches/
Fantastic work. While all these are true it is possible also for impingement to be sore on the ac joint tests and vice versa. But in general thos is true.
Yes that is possible and these tests should be used as a general guide :) - Coach Joshua, Team PM
Thank you much for sharing this information, I was able to narrow down my issue as a shoulder impingement. Really appreciate the content.
You're very welcome!
thank you so much for making this video - so so helpful!
You are welcome :)
I love the test I thought I have something with my shoulder but none of this exercises make feel pain now I think is my back who is hurting my and that was a referral pain thank so much to clarify my thoughts
You are welcome :)
Thank you! This finally gives me an answer, in accordance to a MRI finding. It’s been a little over 3 years since my injury which at that time I couldn’t move or extend my arm in anyway. PT was worthless and recently an injection which didn’t help. I believe that if I had purchased a sling/brace back then this would have healed and I wouldn’t still be in pain 3 years later. Thanks again!
Glad that it helped! The resources in the video description will give you more ideas on how to properly address the root cause of your issue :)
- Coach Joshua, Team PM
Thank you for this video! I revisit it every time I think I have impingement.
Thanks for the support :)
Hawkins test can also indicate a scapular dysfunction. Usually a medial rotation of scapula. Good info.
:)
Thank you so much sir, now i finally came to know what i am suffering from at the age of 15
shoulder impingement
Here's what you can do about it: www.precisionmovement.coach/shoulder-impingement-stretches/
@@PrecisionMovementCoach Thank you so much sir, its my pleasure that you liked my comment and replied to it. i cannot believe.
love from India...
I only had pain with stretching across my body but not the others. My doctor said it could be a SLAP tear but I haven't had an MRI yet
Get that MRI and report back.
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