A Guide to Dark Ages Irish Politics
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- A quick guide to Dark Ages Irish Politics and History. I've been having some issues with editing software and the like so this video is a bit more rustic. More on this soon. Thanks for watching!
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Are you saying that Brian Boru lived to 87 years old and only died because he was killed in battle?! What a badass haha
Enda O'Halloran And my last name means Descendent of Brian Boru 😆
Enda O'Halloran he got beheaded by a group of Viking deserters while he was praying
My surname means decendant of the warrior
O or Ui usually means 'Grandson of' whereas Mac (or Mc) means the 'Son of'
Women had different prefixes of 'Daughter of' or 'Granddaughter of' but that tradition went away as Ireland became more Anglicized
Basically the O'Brien family is the family of the grandson(s) of Brian Boru
Great video, I especially like the clear and concise graphics. I can see some great improvements to how you're making your videos!
Griff
The armchair historian!
For such a small country Ireland has one of the most interesting historys. Great video. Really enjoy watching these.
netherlands requires a cameo in every video no matter what
Aye
Anime Elf yes it shall be hilbert thing
My I ask why, expet for the; Containership moving, Hagelslag eating, Tulip growing, ocean conquering resons?
Abyssaljam maybe because Hilbert is Dutch?
Maybe, however, he dosn't sound Dutch.
tbh he doesn't sound like he has much of an accent at all to me.
Talk about Poland-Lithuania
Tomcz12333 yea i wana learn about polish history it seems to be repressed
Awesome as always
"Celts is a bit of misdemeanor," your videos are informative and unintentionally hilarious.
I love your channel! It's well written and well produce. Since you are making references to the old Dutch,it will be nice for me as an Indonesian to observe Dutch point of view of colonialism. What we learned from our history book,the voc were the baddy.
Ps: in Indonesia we are still pretty much using Frisian flag condense milk for our beverages and whatnot,we are calling it Susu bendera, literally flag's milk.
Funny thing, I was once playing a frisian nobleman in Crusader Kings 2 and this cousin of my character decided to go adventuring and conquered a province in Ireland, a province in Ulster I believe it was or Connacth. Sadly his adventuring didn't lead to a Frisian Ireland, but a few provinces there assimilated to the Frisian culture. Fun game :).
Nice work Hilbert! This is definitely worth a bigger investigation into the Irish history as it's so fecking vast when you take into account the different cycles and the mythological tales attached. Also, the idea of the neolithic societies of Ireland who would've been responsible for the building of the large tombs Newgrange, and many more.
The Ulster cycles were more predominant in the Irish legend system as Uí Néill was the main chieftain when it came to international affairs. The likes of Cú Chulainn and the Táin gives a massive insight into the power systems within Ireland and the standard of society, though the stories are heavily embellished with transliteral expressions.
Sorry if someone already mentioned this but the -ster endings of Munster, Leinster and Ulster most likely came from Viking influence (stadr) rather than from the Irish word tir. First because the counties already had Irish names of Uladh, Laighin and Mhumhan. Second because Connacht was the only area not conquered by the Vikings and therefore kept its original Irish name. This can be found in Myths and Legends of the Celtic Race by TW Rolleston. Love your channel and videos BTW!
I learn something new EVERY day. Thank you!!! X
Nice facts, many of the norse names of places in caithness, orkney and Shetland have "ster" at the end of them. For example Scrabster, haster, ulbster, etc. This was areas of massive norse heritage and migration.
Tír Na nÓg was a mythical island where people never aged as long as they never set foot on the mainland again
Thanks Hilbert, Niall got his name because he supposedly held nine subservient kingdoms, including some in Britain.
Many Scottish clans claimed in their medieval pedigrees to be descended from him although that may not be fashionable to admit to today.
He was killed in battle outside of Ireland and carried back by his army.
Thanks again.
You left out the best kingdom, the Kingdom of Meath. It was traditionally the kingdom who's king held the title of High King of Ireland
The fifth province at the time. Therefore why 'cúige' or 'fifth' means province in Irish. Everyone fought over Meath to gain the High Kingship
Surprised by the lack of political wars in the comments regarding n. Ireland etc. Nice video. I like the laid back commentary style
0:34 "misdemeanour" should be "misnomer"
Love the vids!
great video plz make more about ireland!!!
As an Irish man studying the Irish language as part of a course in Traditional Irish music I feel that it is my duty to say, yes; you are absolutely "Butchering" the language. (Capital B in the word butchering) Your Irish pronunciation is about as good as me trying to say Scheveningen in Dutch or the word Graag with that CHHHH sounding G. It's absolutely terrible. I love it. ;) Love the channel and thanks for doing a bit on Ireland.
You are correct I think. Of course if he were using Old Irish, the pronunciation would be different...
Nobody cares, of course its not right
Patrick did not bring Christianity to Ireland. According to the chronicle of Prosper of Aquitaine, the Pope sent Palladius to be the first bishop to the Christians in Ireland in 431. Later Irish chroniclers did not know precisely when Patrick arrived in Ireland but they had Palladius' chronicle so they "dated" Patrick's arrival to be one year later than this in 432. In spite of the missionary activities of Patrick (and his own claims) he was not the first to bring Christianity to the island.
That Anthem sent a tear rolling down my red-white-and-blue cheek.
live the vid can't wait for more
1:05 So... did Connacht used to refer to the north half of Ireland?? And what is that other one?
EXCELLENT VIDEO!
Did I just hear someone say Celtic is a linguistic label?! Glad to hear other people realize this, keep up the intelligence Hilbert!
Fabulous loved it
My tribe the kenneds or Óceannáide are direct discendants of Brian Borús grandsoon i thought you woudve mentioned that
Great video to set the scene for the tutorial of CK3
Quick correction, the English names for the provinces of Ireland come from Norse - not the Irish language names. So tír did not give rise to the 'ter' suffix, as Irish grammar would place that at the start of the word (Tyrone comes from Tír Éoin - Owens' land).
The Norse suffix 'staðr' gives rise to 'ster' in Ulster (from Ulaid, drop the 'aid' suffix and add the Norse one), Munster (from Mumu, drop the 'u' and add 'ster') and Leinster. Leinster is entirely of Norse etymology - the Irish called it Laigin - it was the same Kingdom however.
Dont Wake The Insomniac the irish word for wolf is mac tir
Thank you very interesting.
Now this is a guide that teaches me something i can use in my life
How to get a mortgage < How to become fluent in the Politics of Dark Age Ireland
More Dutch references please
Súigh mo bhód !!
Tir na nóg means land of the young not fairies. Nice video though.
So if O'brian (Star Trek Next Gen, DS9) were to meet O'neil (SG1) there might be some issues?
seen a lecture where the professor said "niall" was the old irish way for spelling neil do you know if it is nial or neil
This was very good keep on making episodes and more diverse subjects (Traansvaal Civil war *wink wink*) but this is extremely good.Btw I also found out I am 50% Boer guess what that 49% of that is dutch! So Ek is Baie Gellukid VIR DIE VADERLAND.
lol'd at the netherlands national anthem and the zoom on the flag :)))))) love that bit
3:26 The name positions are a little misleading, with Connacht's name spreading to Clare and maybe Limerick,Munster's name into Wexford, Leinster's in parts of Northern Ireland and Ulster's in Leitrim.
Clare used to be part of Connacht or so I learned in School. All the boundaries changed and fluctuated as far as I know.
What about the others??
Especially Munsters..
No way that could be a contemporary picture of him considering the armor is at least 400-500 years later than when the dates of his life are.
Ar fheabhas Hilbert! One thing that not everybody knows is that the Uí Néill (grandsons of Niall i.e. of the Nine Hostages) are very old and significant so they gave rise to lots of families. Fir example O'Neill, O'Donnell, O'Gallagher, O'Gormley, O'Doherty and probably my namesake 😛 However O'Neill (meaning the exact same thing) is in reference to a later Niall called Niall Glúndub (Niall of the Black Knee). He was of the Uí Néill himself, lived around the time if the Viking attacks and by that time the broader Uí Néill were quite large and widespread. His descendants the O'Neills emphasised their descent from specifically him to forward their claim to the Uí Néill kingdom of Tír Eoghain (or Tyrone). Hope this helps and your Irish is good 😄
I swear Pádraig Leahy has the top comment for every History With Hilbert video.
4 Kingdoms = 4 providences
Tir na nog: land or isles of youth, magic, fairies or the North, depends on the locals.
You should do something on Northern Ireland specifically I'd love to see how you do it
there'd be war in the comment section
the suffix ster came from the Normans why would Gaelic speaking irish ppl refer to the provinces in anything but there Irish names... where did you get your sources for this video?
My boyfriend brought me to the Rock of Cashel recently which is where Brien Boru lived before going off to the battle north, and he told me about how he is a direct descendant and his family tree is kept in a little building at the base if the rock. Just watching this now and doesn't he have Brien's nose! 6:00
I'm a descendent of Brian boru though the O'Phealan family
Norman Hampton Its not even that unlikely
probilly not related but last name is phelan and my family is from Ireland
Assuming a human generation time of 27 years there have been approximately 36 generations since since Brian boru's death. If you trace your ancestry back 36 generations, assuming no inbreeding, in 1014 you will have 2^36 or 68,719,476,736 ancestors. So it's not only possible but probable that you are descended from literally everyone on earth alive in 1014.
Brian himself had three wives and must have had a multitude of concubines and a fair amount of lay women on his raids throughout the country, resulting in what must have been astounding numbers of illegitimate children that are not documented in the Irish annals.
The505Guys it's actually amazing how much people do move about over generations. You have a point about isolated tribes but you'd be surprised, it only takes 1 missionary to introduce that DNA.
1:27 Instant video like
Native Irish speaker here. You didn't butcher the Irish words too badly.
Can you do a video on the druids?
Write Tuatha
Call it Tua
GENIUS!
*Irish intensifies*
Write 'write', pronounce it 'rait'. GENIUS! /s
The 'th' in 'tuatha' is pronounced as a 'h'. It used to be pronounce like a 'th' in English, but that was 1000 years ago. Also, 'tuatha' is pronounced more like 'tua-ha'. Hilbert mispronounced it.
Irish spelling might look inpenetrable, but its surface complexity is (a) a consequence of being written longer than any other European language other than Greek, (b) having a complex phonology that makes the Latin alphabet ill-suited to it, and (c) balancing ease of spelling with preserving useful etymological information.
That's the reason why a word like 'beochaoineadh' is spelled the way it is: unlike English, Irish has consonant mutation and a contrast between palatalised (slender) and velarised (broad) consonants, and has to jump through hoops to represent those, which the Latin alphabet isn't good at.
In fact, for its age and issues, Irish orthography actually represents the language surprisingly well, and is a significantly better representation of the spoken language than that of English, which only looks easy on the surface, but unlike Irish spelling, which is straightforward once you learn the principles, English spelling is nothing but a rat-king of exceptions.
So Conan O'Brian has a kings name?
Can't believe this O Neill is decended of Neill and Connacht is so misprounced
"The Celts is a bit of a misdemeanor."
I think you mean misnomer.
But still this is a somewhat appropriate mistake. ;-p
I heard of thr Uí Néill from eu4
As an Anglo-Irish mutt, I approve of this video.
3:18
"Now if we skip ahead a few hundred years"
> 400AD
> 300AD
wut lol
Tír na nÓg means the land of (eternal) youth. This is one of the best known facts regarding Irish folklore.
Was it the Welsh Kingdom of Dyfed that had an Irish Elite?
Do you have Dutch heritage by any chance?
he's obviously chinese -.-
You're both wrong you can clearly hear he's from France
He's a first-generation Englishman who's parents are from the Netherlands
pfft we all know he has an Afro-Eurasian heritage
Tír na nÓg is land of the young and You forgot the kingdom of Meath. Also saint Pat escaped from his slavery.
HOLY SHIT THE IRISH GUY IS BACK
Um our politics never left the dark ages...
Declan and others preceded Patrick!
1:32 HIJ DOET HET WEER!!!!!
translation
He does it again
Why does the map have a border at 300AD?
07:12 in the fod!!! isen't that a bit to low ??
3:48 tír nin og means land of the young
Sounds like current Irish politics. Come a long way. 👍
Welcome to the family
My people!
This is the most fairytale like setting in real life I can think of
I know im late but i would like to say that ireland was split into five kingdoms the irish word for province means five kingdoms and meath was the middle kingdom but it was so small it got taken over by leinster and turned into more of puppet state
Misdemeanor? Did you mean 'misnomer'?
Jack Mehoff first thing on my mind too. i went looking for secondary definitions of misdemeanor so I didn't feel an ass.
Brian Borus proper name in Irish is Brain Mac Cennétig. Boru part is from his middle name Bóruma. his father was Cennétig mac Lorcáin thus his name brian Son of Cennétig. Kinda obvious but just wanted to point out that Brain Boru wasn't his actual name when he was alive.
1:27
Would the name McNeil be similar to O'Neil in this respect. Just wondering.
Estella1507 ,,,,, the Mc is similar to the O but I don't remember the difference off the top of my head, O could mean grandson of and Mac or mc meaning son of, there's also a lot of Scots with the MC and some O's and it seems like the Irish use the O a lot.
Recently made a video on the last high-king, Rory O’Conor, if anyones interested! m.th-cam.com/video/vjLmjs-aWXM/w-d-xo.html
you have the best pronunciation of a non irishman i have heard yet hahahaha maith thu fein
Tir na og is actually land of the young not tir na sidhe land of the fairies. Although a better translation is land of eternal youth eternal isn't said its just implied.
You get a like for the surprise Willhelmus! Hup Nederlands!
me:
smiles: in crusader king 2
Munster Forza! Alba Eire
No BC High King Angus?
that's neat, my grand mother was descended from O'Neil's
You didn't butcher the Irish at all, respect
Yes, you did butcher the names haha. But great video!
Are you Dutch or British? Make up your mind
Is this really Cynicism at its best?
I'm not really that cynical anymore tbqh
Do this for France or italy
oh shit.. the celts are a crime.. (sry, i had to, i love ur vids!!)
People were living in Ireland for at least 11000 years, according to archeology. Irish names have a lot of silent "gs". So "Eoganachta" would be pronounced "Owenachta", Uí Néill in Irish pronounciation is "We Nail".
:33 Misdemeanor? I think you mean misnomer. HA GotchA!
What about Meath? Irish Cúig means five!
No. Munster, Ulster and Leinster get their 'ster' from the Norman word for a place. Just like in Britain you have West Minster. Lots o places i England have 'ster' on the end of their names. In Irish they are called Uladh, Múin, Lein and Connacht. The Normans simply added 'ster' to the end of these names to call them Uladh-place, Lein-Place and so on. Similar to what The Saxon did with Ireland - Éire-land. Germanic languages love sticking 'land' on the end of everything.
I'm guessing this guy is from the Netherlands?
the ter in leister and munster comes from the old norse, tír like tír eoghan, tyrone, but leinster is laighin in irish, sounds like lion in English theres no tír in it
same with munster its mumha
Tír na nÓg is Irish for Land of the Young. It was a mythological land believed to exist to the west of Ireland across the sea. It was believed that if you made it there, you would cease to age and live forever.
I think you meant to say the Celts were a misnomer, rather than a misdemeanour.
i prefer the orange white blue flag for netherlands the other one reminds me of yugoslávia
The Ui Neill Clan was the most powerful clan on the island for close to 800 years. Put some respect on their name!
When he states pain in the foot, does he mean a corn, a blister, an ingrowing toe nail or a small matter of a bone spur? Throw in arthritis, now that would be a pain.
The Irish game of thrones
I think st Patrick was a Romano-briton :)
Ciarán Lalor fair play I stand corrected :)
They are one and the same. St Patrick was a Romano-Briton that was captured as a slave by Irish pirates in the 5th century AD. The Welsh are the descendants of the Britons left unconquered by the Anglo-Saxons in the first millenium.
IratePirate yeah I thought it was something like that I remember a documentary saying all about it, I think it was wales where he got captured and took as a slave to Ireland. So I guess you could say he is both :)
School got it wrong. He couldn't be Welsh as Wales didn't exist. He was a Romano-Briton.
Taking Wales a geographical reference is also not proven. No one knows where he came from on Great Britain but the main area where the hot money is somewhere on either side of the Bristol Channel.