What Happened to the Old Irish Flag?

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  • @shcomptech
    @shcomptech 4 ปีที่แล้ว +799

    The harp is a symbol from Irish mythology, it's associated with the god The Dagda, he played the harp to make the seasons change.

    • @chwah7504
      @chwah7504 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Was it not Brian Ború?

    • @peterhoulihan9766
      @peterhoulihan9766 4 ปีที่แล้ว +34

      @@chwah7504 There is a physical harp named after Brian Ború but it's unlikely he had anything to do with it.
      An Daghda is very much associated with harps and they feature frequently in stories about him. However, as covered above, they're unlikely to resemble anything like the instrument we'd call a harp today, probably more like a strummed lyre.

    • @peterhoulihan9766
      @peterhoulihan9766 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@chwah7504 This is a saxon instrument, but the Irish and British cláirsigh were likely similar.
      th-cam.com/video/qaJYclpNwUE/w-d-xo.html

    • @thenextshenanigantownandth4393
      @thenextshenanigantownandth4393 4 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      @@peterhoulihan9766 The harp could very well have been adopted because of its christain symbolizism , it's referred to as king David's harp in the 13th century coat of arms.

    • @XPK15
      @XPK15 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@thenextshenanigantownandth4393, didn't he play the lyre? They're very different musical instruments.

  • @Kevc00
    @Kevc00 4 ปีที่แล้ว +382

    Hilbert on behalf of the Irish people mad respect, no one does this kind of content of Irish history on TH-cam except for you, so thank you for sharing Irish history!

    • @Dreyno
      @Dreyno 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Extra Credits did a good series on the famine. Quite detailed and accurate.

    • @internetual7350
      @internetual7350 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Dreyno The "famine"

    • @Kevc00
      @Kevc00 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @Mexican Bob I respect him for putting out this kind of content about Irish history.... I mean a two year old could have figured that out

    • @joekavanagh8997
      @joekavanagh8997 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yes ,this guy did his homework well.Well narrated and we'll presented with relevant information.

    • @barrymcguire5048
      @barrymcguire5048 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@internetual7350 mass murder by starvation 🇮🇪💚🇮🇪

  • @seanmccall7277
    @seanmccall7277 3 ปีที่แล้ว +358

    I asked an Irish guy what the colors in the Irish flag meant. He said " the green is for the Catholics , the orange is for the protestants and the white represents the gulf of mutual incomprehension ".

    • @rossnorval862
      @rossnorval862 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      That's what I was told too

    • @marcosross790
      @marcosross790 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      Amazing how cultures differ, yea even under one roof. I was told the same for green and orange, but for the white. Was the piece between them. I often thought it should be red, for the blood each took from the other.

    • @johngorniak6900
      @johngorniak6900 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      The Tri colour was brought into existence by the exiled Irish in France , hence called the tri colour . The original design was to have hands shaking across the white , but the two colours were there to represent the Catholics and Protestants .

    • @larrymolloy5935
      @larrymolloy5935 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      ​@johngorniak6900 the first Irish tricolour was made on French silk and featured the red hand of ulster at centre. It was made by women of the Grand Orient Lodge Paris and presented to and flown by Thomas Francis meagher leader of the young irelanders revoluționary republican group at 33 the Mall Waterford on St Patrick's Day 1848 headquarters of a group called The Wolfe Țone Society.

    • @larrymolloy5935
      @larrymolloy5935 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @Eileen Delaney Paris is where freemasonry is run from, yes. The Queen is world leader through her title Sovereign of the garter, The Order of the garter being the world leading freemasonic lodge.

  • @darkjannn
    @darkjannn 4 ปีที่แล้ว +365

    10:40 Sees the word 'orange' on screen in one of Hilbert's videos: immediately prepares to lower volume as soon as the inevitable Wilhelmus starts blowing my speakers out. Spoiler alert: doesn't happen! Who are you and what have you done with Hilbert?

    • @floridaman3823
      @floridaman3823 4 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      darkjann speaks for The Legion!

    • @conorkelly947
      @conorkelly947 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      He's a tactful man, what us a joke is other videos wouldn't hit the some here

  • @sevatarlives185
    @sevatarlives185 4 ปีที่แล้ว +315

    The cláirseach-on-blue flag is still the official flag of the President of Ireland, and the green version still used for the Eastern province of Leinster. I know, I know, minor details.

    • @talideon
      @talideon 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Eastern province, you mean.

    • @sevatarlives185
      @sevatarlives185 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@talideon MINOR DETAILS I SAID 🤫.
      Nah, thx. I could blame autocorrect, or looking at my map upside-down, but really I just wasn't as attentive as I should have been.

    • @cunobelinusX31
      @cunobelinusX31 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Strangely enough the colour of St Patrick is blue, not green, this can be seen on the British royal coat of arms. (feck them). Oh he just said this in the documentary, I was jumping the gun. But I'd look stupid wearing blue on Paddies day

    • @Zappy9518
      @Zappy9518 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Always thought the flag had a blue background not green.

    • @stalfithrildi5366
      @stalfithrildi5366 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Is this connected to blue being a more common heraldric colour than green? Anything green being translated into blue when recorded, possibly?

  • @IrishDemon
    @IrishDemon 4 ปีที่แล้ว +131

    gotta love some Irish history before bed (Irish Guy in Australia) Éire Abú. Thanks for this

    • @FilAnd01
      @FilAnd01 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Goodnight, sleep tight 😴

    • @pissmaster825
      @pissmaster825 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Same here! Which county? I was conceived in Edinburgh although I was born in Co. Westmeath near Althlone

  • @stirfrywok2927
    @stirfrywok2927 4 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    As an Irish man I have to say your knowledge of our complex history is very impressive; as is your sensitive delivery of a topic that is almost impossible to discuss rationally on the internet. Great stuff!

    • @jamesbradshaw3389
      @jamesbradshaw3389 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I refuse to disagree with you

  • @talideon
    @talideon 4 ปีที่แล้ว +58

    Thanks for doing such a good job on the pronunciations! People often mangle Irish terms horribly, so getting it right deserves kudos.

    • @jrt818
      @jrt818 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Yes, how many Irish-Americans have gone to Ireland only to discover they mispronounce their last names.

    • @cristianfuentes2597
      @cristianfuentes2597 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      How many

    • @noodlyappendage6729
      @noodlyappendage6729 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Americans even mispronounce English words. Oh well. English speakers mispronounce almost every French word we say.

    • @derry86
      @derry86 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      V impressed by the pronunciations!

    • @annick4846
      @annick4846 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Even the Dutch names where pronounced perfectly!

  • @ahopefor
    @ahopefor 4 ปีที่แล้ว +58

    As a Irishman, I'm pretty proud of you doing a video on us, good job BTW.

  • @tadhgmurphy8859
    @tadhgmurphy8859 3 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    Love this, it's great to see an interest in Irish history

  • @stiofanobriain7934
    @stiofanobriain7934 4 ปีที่แล้ว +39

    Go raibh maith agat. Físeán iontach agus bhí an Ghaeilge go maith agat. Maith thú! ☘️

  • @12345678900987659101
    @12345678900987659101 4 ปีที่แล้ว +85

    Finnegan my son, you are free now. You can pick a flag for your nation. Will you pick the Harp on green or a generic tricolor?

    • @b-beale1931
      @b-beale1931 4 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      how about the harp over st. Patrick's blue?

    • @philly_cheese_dog1530
      @philly_cheese_dog1530 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Read this in the Leprechaun accent

    • @danielcarthy9250
      @danielcarthy9250 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Our tricolour actually has alot of meaning behind it and it's easy to recreate which is important for a flag

    • @TheHorseOutside
      @TheHorseOutside 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@danielcarthy9250 that is the point behind literally every tricolour

    • @danielcarthy9250
      @danielcarthy9250 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@TheHorseOutside not every tricolour has the same of meaning. If that's not what ur talking about I have no idea what ur on about then

  • @soloinsoho
    @soloinsoho 4 ปีที่แล้ว +102

    I heard Dutch and prepared for the anthem, but nothing... Hilbert are u ok?

  • @daddyleon
    @daddyleon 4 ปีที่แล้ว +75

    1:40 a woman with wings ... isn't that a bit of a harpy?

    • @swinhelm389
      @swinhelm389 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Nice one

    • @joekavanagh8997
      @joekavanagh8997 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Good observation and well said.!Cheers my girl!

    • @Calidore1
      @Calidore1 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Plaudits for that one!

    • @golgotha3938
      @golgotha3938 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Probably connected to fallen angels. Before christianity a lot of pagan religions are very similar to nephilim/demon worship. China worship the dragon , ancient greece fallen angels etc.

  • @AverytheCubanAmerican
    @AverytheCubanAmerican 4 ปีที่แล้ว +152

    How to summon the Irish:

  • @aim-alternativeirishmedia4861
    @aim-alternativeirishmedia4861 4 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Danté describes the Irish use of the harp in the 13th century. He describes the harp of Erin flag in detail. The harp is called the Anúna (An Uaithne) in ancient Gaelic mythology, and is attributed to Daghdha, the Irish father god, and Angus Óg, his son, the Irish god of love and poetry.

    • @MrSchizoid405
      @MrSchizoid405 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Interesting do you have any links?

  • @__Andrew_
    @__Andrew_ ปีที่แล้ว +3

    2023: Saint Patrick's Day:
    An Englishman living in Friesland Who despite living in Northern Ireland for several years had no idea of the Irish tricolour symbolising peaceful coexistence, now learning this by stumbling across Hilbert again - Himself with Friesland and English background if I remember rightly from his other videos.
    Thank you!

  • @ErikHare
    @ErikHare 4 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    I love how you preserve the unique length to width ratio of the flag. The origins of that would be interesting as well.

    • @mowvu
      @mowvu 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      yeh man i agree, i enjoy the structural integrity those random shaped flags like switzerland and nepal being maintained. i have a feeling Hilbert's editing software is probably the reason lol.

    • @paranoidrodent
      @paranoidrodent 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      How is a 1:2 ratio particularly remarkable? The UK and many Commonwealth nations use that ratio (the Free State was a Dominion just like Canada or Australia). It is a bit longer than the 2:3 commonly associated with vertical tricolour flags but it makes complete sense as the typical ratio used around Ireland when the flag evolved. Still, those are the two most commonly used flag ratios with 3:5 probably being a distant third. The 10:19 ratio of the US and former US colonial possessions is probably fourth and then it gets obscure.

    • @zanussidish8144
      @zanussidish8144 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@paranoidrodent You've now got me interested in looking at flag ratios.

  • @castairl9815
    @castairl9815 4 ปีที่แล้ว +55

    The harp is the province flag of Leinster

  • @AshArAis
    @AshArAis 4 ปีที่แล้ว +51

    Big kudos for researching pronunciations properly - even Tom Scott got the pronunciation of harp wrong (and got the Scots version not Irish!)
    Thomas Francis Meagher raised the flag on the Mall in Waterford, and I know the guy each year who reenacts him - he grows the moustache each time! Where I am we'd pronounce his surname as one syllable, like Johnny Marr, we'd just stretch out the vowel slightly. GRMA Hilbert
    Worth noting the blue used is St Patrick's blue, and is the official colour of Ireland used (if you look at the President's seal). Green became intertwined later on for all the reasons in the video, especially as blue features on the British flag it could be distinct that we became independent.

  • @ecurewitz
    @ecurewitz 4 ปีที่แล้ว +43

    Damn you Cote D'Ivoire, ripping off the irish flag like that. Shame on you!

    • @el_iron_duke
      @el_iron_duke 4 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      _Us Indians who just tilted it 90 degrees and put a wheel at the centre_

    • @Rasher1974
      @Rasher1974 4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      @@el_iron_duke The Indian Flag is based on the Irish Tri colour, in fact there was great co operation between DeValera and the newly formed Indian independent government, as an aside there is a Boulevard in Delhi named after DeValera as a tribute to him for the advice he gave India during their fight for independence.

    • @krombopulos_michael
      @krombopulos_michael 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Rasher1974 I can't find anything to substantiate the claim that India's flag is based on the Irish flag. Its based on an original design that had red to represt the Hindu community, Green to represent the Muslim community, and white to represent other religious groups.

    • @651kieran651
      @651kieran651 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@krombopulos_michael there may have been inspiration as both countries were going for self rule from the British

    • @joekavanagh8997
      @joekavanagh8997 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Good observation and well said!

  • @IamMrLebanon
    @IamMrLebanon 4 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    I personally have no direct connection to Ireland but I do have a particularly developed interest in the fascinating history and culture of Ireland and the British Isles. Thank you for the very informative video!

    • @BelcarrigFarm
      @BelcarrigFarm 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thanks I like canada too
      You should have chosen the flag with the blue sides though

    • @CHIBBZ-54
      @CHIBBZ-54 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ireland is NOT a British Isle...The British stamped that on the Map to try to let the World believe we were all British.
      We are Irish, not British.

  • @Matt_The_Hugenot
    @Matt_The_Hugenot 4 ปีที่แล้ว +104

    Irish history is far more complicated than almost all Brits know and quite a lot more than most Irish too.

    • @mcfcfan1870
      @mcfcfan1870 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Very true. Especially ancient Ireland and the Brehon Laws itself.
      Tbf tho I did cringed every time he mentioned Ireland as Scotland in this video as that part had been very mixeded up, which could've been avoided.
      Also he said France tried to invade ireland in the 1640s which I'm very confused on where he got that from

    • @therakemaster3936
      @therakemaster3936 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes

    • @philipstokes865
      @philipstokes865 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@mcfcfan1870 I'm confused that you're confused

    • @rubybrady7051
      @rubybrady7051 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      With to much drink life get difficult to understand.

    • @vestty5802
      @vestty5802 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@mcfcfan1870 he never said France invaded he said that Owen roes Irish regiment fought against the French in the Spanish Netherlands

  • @SupremeLeaderKimJong-un
    @SupremeLeaderKimJong-un 4 ปีที่แล้ว +46

    I drove my Saracen through your garden last night

    • @brianmacc1934
      @brianmacc1934 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Ooo rrrr oooo rrrrr

    • @jixuscrixus1967
      @jixuscrixus1967 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Did ye, aye?

    • @danielpalma1426
      @danielpalma1426 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Those things used to terrorize coastal communities back in the seventh through 11th centuries....😆

    • @thegrajee
      @thegrajee 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@danielpalma1426 no it's a car.

    • @paulgalligan1916
      @paulgalligan1916 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Kim jongky boots 👢 👢

  • @teaguebrennan2428
    @teaguebrennan2428 4 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Traditional celtic style harp on blue or green background
    Beautiful, design
    Replace that boring trickler

    • @niallmcdonagh1093
      @niallmcdonagh1093 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I totally agree. We aren't India or the Ivory Coast!!!

  • @knightsoftheideologies5086
    @knightsoftheideologies5086 4 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    A great video as always :)

  • @thedarquibus
    @thedarquibus 4 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    I disagree with a few things in this video, for example blue is still today and always has been the national colour for Ireland, since the days of the old Irish kingdoms. Also I have done alot of music here in Ireland and have friends who are harpists, your history of the Harp is a new one to me and them. But good video.

    • @mcfcfan1870
      @mcfcfan1870 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      (Copied and pasted this from my comment)
      2:00
      THATS BECAUSE "SCOTTISH GAELIC" IS AN *OFFSHOOT* OF IRISH GAELIC.
      He went down a bit of a rabbithole there.
      The Scottish got their Gaelic language, culture etc etc from IRELAND.
      (Via the IRISH dál riata clan)

    • @ethanramos4441
      @ethanramos4441 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      There was also another flag that he forgot which he didn’t show on the video

    • @gachrudgaelach
      @gachrudgaelach 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes I think your correct!! The blue goes back to original roots, long before Henry V111

  • @gregboi183
    @gregboi183 4 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Jesus, like 5 of my favourite channels have all uploaded 20 minute videos in the last hour. This is a conspiracy against my free time

  • @roudi9022
    @roudi9022 4 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    I thought that the title "Lord of Ireland" was bestowed upon the English King himself, and the nobleman appointed as Administrator was called "Lord Lieutenant of Ireland"

    • @ryanfarrelly4647
      @ryanfarrelly4647 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Same

    • @lazybones79
      @lazybones79 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      That’s correct. Aras an Uachtaran was formerly the Lord Lieutenant’s House.

    • @BelcarrigFarm
      @BelcarrigFarm 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@lazybones79 weren't the also called the viceroy

  • @ethanramos4441
    @ethanramos4441 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    I would like to point that There actually another flag that they use however it was only Used in the Easter Rising. This was the Irish Republic Flag which like the harp flag has a green background but what make it different than the other two flags this one was emblazoned with the words Irish Republic in gold and white.

  • @justbeyondthecornerproduct3540
    @justbeyondthecornerproduct3540 4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Thank you for actually taking the time to research proper Irish pronunciation

  • @aaronuaconaill5688
    @aaronuaconaill5688 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Pronunciation actually quite impressive.... quite a surprise! Nice job👌

  • @malthevlds9667
    @malthevlds9667 4 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Damn that's gonna be a long flag video...
    And I love it

  • @Mark.A.Maggard
    @Mark.A.Maggard 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Your pronunciation of Gaelic (et.al.)are a great part of your videos.
    It actually lead to my binging of your videos and subscription. I think 🤔 every video you make should include this excellent talent of yours. Perhaps a key phrase in the beginning and another to reward those watching the whole subject.
    Semper Fidelis, cousin.

    • @NedNew
      @NedNew ปีที่แล้ว

      Mark, a little known fact is that the common rabbit in Ireland has more than 3 times better hearing than the average person from Athy, County Kildare.

  • @tonylawson1965
    @tonylawson1965 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Excellent information. I often wondered about the logo on Ryanair planes. Now I know. Thank you.

  • @daithimcbuan5235
    @daithimcbuan5235 4 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    Nice Ivory Coast flag at the beginning. The golden harp on a green background is still used as the flag & coat of arms of the province of Leinster (East). The golden harp on a blue background is used as the Presidential flag. Also the 'South' became the Irish Free State (Saorstát Éireann), not the Republic in 1922, but all of that shite would assumably need its own video, what with the Irish Civil War and all.

    • @ryanfarrelly4647
      @ryanfarrelly4647 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      True the civil war needs a video of its own

    • @Demps_
      @Demps_ 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      bunch of rebels fighting rebels who would care about that

  • @johnlauzon8156
    @johnlauzon8156 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    I'm American. My grandma was born in 1902 in Ireland. She immigrated here in 1929 and married a Canadian in 1931. She explained to me what it was to be Irish and our history. I miss her dearly.

    • @MonsieurWeevil
      @MonsieurWeevil ปีที่แล้ว

      "our" history? Don't you mean their history?

    • @johnlauzon8156
      @johnlauzon8156 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MonsieurWeevil no

    • @MonsieurWeevil
      @MonsieurWeevil ปีที่แล้ว

      @@johnlauzon8156 But you said you are American.

    • @johnlauzon8156
      @johnlauzon8156 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MonsieurWeevil yes

    • @MonsieurWeevil
      @MonsieurWeevil ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@johnlauzon8156 Then it’s not your history.

  • @ferrjuan
    @ferrjuan 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Talk about the St. Patrick’s Battalion during the Mexican-American War they also used the harp with the green field as a battle flag.

  • @seandegidon4672
    @seandegidon4672 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    @History With Hilbert, a couple of corrections/clarifications:
    1) James & William: James II converted to Catholicism even before he ascended to the throne, and upon the latter declared religious tolerance without exception (the one declared after his overthrow excluded Catholics). William was a reluctant sectarian as well, offering religious toleration to Catholics in the Peace of Limerick, only to be vetoed by Parliament in London. The pope endorsed William because he was more worried about the Gallican Heresy (James was beholden to Louis XIV) than Protestant persecution.
    2) The Anglo-Irish Treaty of 1922 created an autonomous Irish Free State in the south. Independence would not be declared and recognized until 1948 (in a photo finish with India and Israel).

  • @nallos2015homern.
    @nallos2015homern. 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    According to wikipedia
    The flag contains information
    The green is for Catholicism
    The white is unity
    The orange is for Protestant Ulster

    • @thunderbird1921
      @thunderbird1921 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      What does the French Tricolor stand for then?

  • @thenextshenanigantownandth4393
    @thenextshenanigantownandth4393 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    The harp is a fine flag, but I'm more partial to the sun brust flag myself. The harp as a instrument god knows how far back in human history that goes, but as a flag is solely Irish similar to how saltire didn't originate in Scotland but is considered scottish with blue and white. Also the united Irishmen didn't invent the green harp flag its origins go back to the confederates and Owen Roe O'Neill, it was a commonly used by the Irish long before the united Irishmen.

    • @thenextshenanigantownandth4393
      @thenextshenanigantownandth4393 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Also I read something interesting a while back about the term red coat having originated in ireland. Would be a interesting video idea.

    • @MrSchizoid405
      @MrSchizoid405 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      And Owen Roe O'Neil never used the harp flag of Erin. He seems to have gotten that inaccurate information from Wikipedia, it was just a normal harp on a green background.

    • @sports872
      @sports872 ปีที่แล้ว

      A video on the sunburst flag and it's various versions and colours and it's origins and uses would be very interesting.

  • @igotissues1386
    @igotissues1386 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I love the harp flags, so much more original than tricolors. Fun fact 'cruit' is an early Irish word for a harp and the phrase "cruit cen chéis" means a harp without a plectrum (or maybe strings, no one is sure) and means something useless.

    • @ethanramos4441
      @ethanramos4441 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      You do realize that there was another flag unlike the other two

  • @JT-uw5xi
    @JT-uw5xi 4 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    important note: the sinn féin of 1920ish IS NOT the same sinn féin as today

    • @ethanramos4441
      @ethanramos4441 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You the original Sinn Féin not the new organized one of 1970

  • @RyanTheMan000
    @RyanTheMan000 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Respect from Ireland man, one of the few British people i respect. Take care and keep on keepin on man.👍

    • @Dom-fx4kt
      @Dom-fx4kt 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Think he's actually Dutch

    • @RyanTheMan000
      @RyanTheMan000 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Dom-fx4kt really? Sounds pretty English to me

    • @Dom-fx4kt
      @Dom-fx4kt 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@RyanTheMan000 I know I thought the same at first, his accent is even regional, but I have heard he spent some time living in Nottingham or somewhere and maybe still does but is in fact Dutch and from the Netherlands originally.

  • @kgizzle92
    @kgizzle92 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    No matter how hard De Valera tried the father of the Irish Republic is Michael Collins!

    • @keelanmurphy9941
      @keelanmurphy9941 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Collins was dead a decade and a half before a Republic was declared.

    • @michaeld8280
      @michaeld8280 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@keelanmurphy9941 Seeing as he was the the first Chairman of the Provisional Government of the Irish Free State, The direct predecessor to the Republic of Ireland. I think its a pretty safe to say Collins was a pretty central fucking figure......... dead or not.

    • @keelanmurphy9941
      @keelanmurphy9941 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@michaeld8280 Yeah, a provisional interim government, to which he was not elected, and on which he served all of five minutes before the Civil War broke out. Central figure or not, "Father of the Republic" is not accurate. He was one brick in the construction of it, and only at the forefront for about two years. He was a charismatic figure, which is why he's a lot more favoured than, say, Griffith or Cosgrave. Same reason a figurehead like Pearse is idolised while the de facto leaders and planners, Clarke, Mac Diarmada and Plunkett, are left by the wayside. And, more importantly, he died young and handsome and untainted by a long and morally complicated political career that undoubtedly would have come after.

    • @michaeld8280
      @michaeld8280 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@keelanmurphy9941 He was more than a brick. He was the man picked to lead Ireland during her first steps of independence. Did his assassination play a part in his legacy, of course. Just like any major political figure who is murdered. He was the commander in chief. If Washington died in the revolution would we dismiss him because he didn't get a chance to run for office??

    • @KeranKeranos
      @KeranKeranos 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      id argue Wolfe Tone

  • @lostShadowLord
    @lostShadowLord 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    thanks for taking the time to learn how to pronounce some for the terms used in this video,
    you sound more fluent than I do.
    the change of blue to Green is rather simple
    Irish Colour Blue: Royal
    Irish Colour Green: Rebel
    in 1916, the Irish tri-colour was the flag used by the Original Sinn Fein (ourselves), the British wrongly report that Sinn Fein had been one of the guide hands of the upraising- at one point a Group of IRB plant the Tri-colour on a building that have been abandoned during the fight, and a British Gunboat started to shell said building (they thought it was the GPO) which were the idea is believed to come form.
    And because of the British reaction to the easter Raising (shooting a Irish tied to a chair because he could stand), public opinion switched to the Rebels and Sinn Fein (who weren't even involved in the raising )
    nitpick 1922 the Irish Free State is formed as Dominion of the British Emprie
    1936: the Irish free State declares itself independent and renames itself to Ireland
    1948: the UK recognize Irish independence and started to referring to the Ireland as Eire or the Republic of Ireland when dealing with it
    - there was an instance during the Signing of the founding Document of the Council of Europe, where the British representative wanted Ireland to be denoted as the republic of Ireland not Ireland, the Irish representative refused and the other nations backed Ireland.

  • @ecurewitz
    @ecurewitz 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thanks! missed your videos the past few weeks. Thiw one was awesome. extra awesome because I'm part Irish

  • @greywolf4330
    @greywolf4330 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    An excellent video I've now subscribed to the channel! The only criticism would be that it would have been more impactful to have presented it from the Irish viewpoint rather than a slightly English stance. Thanks for a good effort!!

  • @RugbyRyan
    @RugbyRyan 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    When I see the blue with the harp I think of the Leinster Rugby Team

  • @cathalkelly8796
    @cathalkelly8796 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    "This has been a rather long video"! ... it flew by it was that captivating! ... I'm gonna watch it again!

  • @phelimridley6727
    @phelimridley6727 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Great video. Excellent Irish language pronunciation. @8:50 the United Irish were not just simply another outfit of patriots. They were ideologically republican, secular and pluralist. Or at least the leadership was. Sectarianism was found amongst the rank-and-file.
    As stated in their name, they wanted to unite Catholic, Protestant and Dissenter (i.e. Presbyterian) into the common name of Irish.
    The flag seen at @1:14 is seen today as the flag of Hibernianism, a conservative Irish nationalism, popular in the Irish community in the US, and parts of rural Ireland. Displaying this flag is purposefully communicating an Ireland not republican, secular and pluralistic.

  • @Cobra4811
    @Cobra4811 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Good stuff man nice to get a bit more knowledge about my Country.

  • @andyallan2909
    @andyallan2909 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    You learn something every day. Thank you. The saltire is the national flag of Scotland and the Lion Rampart the original royal standard. St George's cross is the national flag of England and the three leopards the original royal standard. At the forming of the UK the Union Jack incorporated St Patrick's cross. I have always assumed that the said St Patrick's cross was the national flag of Ireland because of this (and the harp some ancient Irish royal standard). Perhaps you could do another short video to explain the status of St Patrick's cross, historically.

  • @mikesmith-rp1mb
    @mikesmith-rp1mb 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thanks for that vid. Very informative even for an Irish man.!
    Always thought the tricolour was from the Easter up rising. But no it had a much older history.💚🇮🇪☘

  • @ricmac954
    @ricmac954 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Interesting. I'd previously heard that the tricolour was green, white and gold as the first colour was associated with an independent Ireland and the white and gold came from the Catholic Papal flag (the colour being closer to gold than orange).

    • @seanmeathman356
      @seanmeathman356 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      we often and incorrectly say the flag is green white and gold, even in song. It is as described green white and orange. However on some ceremonial flags there will be a gold tassel or whatever you call it all the way around the flag.

  • @doubleducks814
    @doubleducks814 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Foot note: The troubles in Ireland started again in 1969 when the RUC police removed an Irish tricolour from a shop in Belfast because it was illegal to fly the tricolour.

    • @davidlally592
      @davidlally592 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes the then notorious (and now repealed Stormont unionist law) The Flags And Emblems Act...look it up on the web...

  • @confusedflourbeetle4734
    @confusedflourbeetle4734 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    The music used is wrong
    The first piece is beethoven's egmont overture

    • @Calidore1
      @Calidore1 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Isn’t Egmont the Dutch rebel against Spain?

    • @MrBulky992
      @MrBulky992 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The first piece is "Eine kleine Nachtmusik" by Mozart.
      The second piece is indeed the "Egmont" overture by Beethoven from the incidental music to the play of that name by Goethe about the Dutch hero who fought against the Spanish.
      The next piece I do not know. It sounds a bit "folky" and tge one after that is too quiet to identify.
      Then there's Mendelssohn's Wedding March from the incidental music to Shakespeare's "A Midsummer Night's Dream". Does that symbolise the union between Great Britain and Ireland?
      That's followed by Tchaikovsky's "1812 Overture" to accompany the rise of Irish nationalism in the 19th century. This dissolves into something more contemporarily popular.

  • @mowvu
    @mowvu 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    what a channel, i cannot stress how great this stuff is. your cadence is a thing of beauty👌

  • @ronaldfreeman1787
    @ronaldfreeman1787 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    who here played ck3 tutorial and managed to unite ireland?

    • @antseanbheanbocht4993
      @antseanbheanbocht4993 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You should come and touch the Lia Fail and see if it cries out.

    • @ronaldfreeman1787
      @ronaldfreeman1787 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@antseanbheanbocht4993 put some watchtowers to stop people from vandalizing it ffs

    • @antseanbheanbocht4993
      @antseanbheanbocht4993 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ronaldfreeman1787 Yes i agree, you can drive in and walk straight up to it for free, i touched it but alas,
      Níor chlóis mé é ag caoineadh.
      I did not hear it crying.
      Actually the entire area is full of unexcavated ancient sites that anyone could walk into.

    • @afrovarangian
      @afrovarangian 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Rusty Shackleford Wasn't that patched?

  • @i.lynott9919
    @i.lynott9919 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great attempts at the pronunciation!👍👍

  • @ElectricChaplain
    @ElectricChaplain 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    The tricolor is an awesome flag, great symbolism.

    • @bobpobcf9723
      @bobpobcf9723 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The Harp is SOOOOO much better

    • @ElectricChaplain
      @ElectricChaplain 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@bobpobcf9723 The Harp is for the guinness bottles, not the flag. No but really why

    • @crystalpink6535
      @crystalpink6535 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@ElectricChaplain better flag,the tricolor is boring and looks like Ivory Coast

    • @ElectricChaplain
      @ElectricChaplain 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@crystalpink6535 The harpsichord flag looks like a stereotype of the Irish, whereas the tricolor tells a whole story of a people. But I'm not Irish, so my idea of "stereotypical" may be off base.

  • @nolawalter6273
    @nolawalter6273 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    1603 was the Union of the Crowns. Actual Union was 1707. Scotland and England

  • @roadhouse6999
    @roadhouse6999 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    "So raise the Harp of Erin, boys, the flag we all revere, the land of our adoption and the Irish volunteer"
    It might not be Ireland's flag anymore, but a couple of my friends in the New York National Guard were holding it up in front of the U.S. Capitol last week.

  • @hareecionelson5875
    @hareecionelson5875 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Imagine if history lessons at school were taught based on flags? Can't believe that I had zero Irish, Welsh or Scottish history at school. I only realised that the Union Jack used to not include the St Patrick's Saltire when I watched Pirates of the Caribbean..

  • @laughable6650
    @laughable6650 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Imma just guess that the tricolor is inspired in part by the French tricolor.

    • @krncrty
      @krncrty 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Correct!

    • @pixel-hy4jx
      @pixel-hy4jx 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      And the French tricolour was inspired by the Dutch tricolour

    • @thunderbird1921
      @thunderbird1921 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      The French Revolution and Empire left a massive legacy on the world in so many ways.

  • @DocRockBaby
    @DocRockBaby 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video, I knew about the harp flag with the blue background but never knew all the details, good on ya very educational, well done ✌💚☘

  • @longfenglim
    @longfenglim 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Sinn Fein was not really involved in 1916, the English press associated Sinn Fein with Easter 1916, but they were only tangentially involved. The whole thing was organized by the Irish Republican Brotherhood with the help of the Irish Citizen's Army and Cumann na mBan, all of which were Republicans, whereas the original Sinn Fein of Arthur Griffith (ironically) was for a dual monarchy, and wanted something like the Free States but for all or Ireland.

  • @SK-yb7bx
    @SK-yb7bx ปีที่แล้ว

    Great job. You're Irish pronunciation of the name for a harp had a Galway Irish type of pronunciation.

  • @robertcoffey4487
    @robertcoffey4487 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Erin go bragh.....
    Great videos guys, kudos.
    Respect!

    • @mcfcfan1870
      @mcfcfan1870 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The mistakes from the first six minutes almost reducing me to years, tho lol

    • @noodlyappendage6729
      @noodlyappendage6729 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      What about the part where he said Americans had a successful revolution against England? Err what!? You mean against the Kingdom of Great Britain!! 🙄

  • @embryomystic
    @embryomystic 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I've not had this conversation directly, but my Irish friends have told me that the flag is not described as green, white, and orange, but rather green, white, and gold. I was surprised, because I'd had the flag explained to me the way you explain it, but I guess in parts of the island that don't currently have a significant population of Protestants to have peace with (the people I've heard this from have been from Munster and south Connacht), they'd rather forget about that part of their history.

  • @VRBLNSLT
    @VRBLNSLT 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Not verry low key subliminal this Guinness commercial 😉😂
    Next one about Frysk Hynder? 😜🍻

  • @etangdescygnes
    @etangdescygnes 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    "Cruit" is still used in Scottish Gaelic today, e.g. "cruit-chorda" = "harpsichord". The Gaelic root "cruit" is similar to the English word "create" and is part of words that incorporate that meaning, such as "cruithear", ("creator"). The harp may be so-called because it creates music. It is thought that the aboriginal Irish people originally called themselves, collectively, the "cruithin". This may have meant something like "those created [by a god]" or more simply, "people". Interestingly, the first foreigner to record a visit to Great Britain, Pytheas of Massalia, stated that the name of the islands was the "Pretanikai" Islands, and the natives told him they were "Pretani", which is just the P-Celtic equivalent of "Cruithin"! So it is from Pytheas' Greek rendering of the P-Celtic words that we have "Briton", "Britain", and "Brittanic". However, when the Irish Gaels came to Scotland centuries later, they were using the word "Cruithneach" to mean either "Pict" or "Briton", and this seems to indicate that the word had changed its meaning, and by then it may have meant "stranger" or "foreigner". To complicate matters, "cruithneachd" rather bizarrely means "wheat", (perhaps from the creation of seed), so that the Irish Gaelic term for a Pict may instead have come from the fact that some Britons grew wheat, whereas the Irish (at that stage) did not. If so, the Irish Gaelic newcomers to Scotland were bundling the Picts together with P-Celtic Britons much further south, because there was then no variety of wheat that could grow so far north. Now are you sound asleep? Good!

  • @kieranfogarty778
    @kieranfogarty778 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Shout out to Thomas Francis Meagher... watching this now living about a thirty second walk away from his statue in Waterford...my boiii:):)

  • @l2516
    @l2516 4 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Hi Hilbert, I was wondering if you ever heard of the Oera Linda-bok. It's a piece of Frisian mythology.

    • @l2516
      @l2516 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Here is a great introduction video about it that's not hijacked by Dutch naysayers who hate Frisians. th-cam.com/video/rYT_WugMLoY/w-d-xo.html

    • @learnedeldersofteemo8917
      @learnedeldersofteemo8917 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      thanks

    • @l2516
      @l2516 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@learnedeldersofteemo8917 you're welcome! Let me know what you think :D

    • @TimDutch
      @TimDutch 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Will check it out thanks

    • @l2516
      @l2516 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@TimDutch great profile picture!

  • @Mateo-sc7lm
    @Mateo-sc7lm 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    At about 9 minutes when mentioning the French revolution(s) you used "La liberté guidant le peuple ", it is a bit anachronistic because depicting the revolution of the "trois glorieuses" aka the revolution of 1830.
    No big deal but you know, wrong révolution, sorry we have so many

  • @philiposhea2299
    @philiposhea2299 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I read once that it was supposed to be blue instead of green as that was the colour St Patrick wore but decided to have it orange instead as you described

  • @merseydave1
    @merseydave1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The Irish tricolour the flag of the Irish repuplic, is actually a flag of Unity using green of celtic-gaelic tradisions, white representing peace and orange enccompassing the protestant tradition ... it is a flag of unity.

    • @NedNew
      @NedNew ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Dave, are you still planning on calling over for tea and biscuits?

    • @merseydave1
      @merseydave1 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@NedNew Love to mate!

  • @UsTheMusicTVOfficial
    @UsTheMusicTVOfficial 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Cool video. I would have never guessed the meaning of the colors. Very interesting.

  • @napoleonibonaparte7198
    @napoleonibonaparte7198 4 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    #MakeIrelandAHarpAgain

    • @maximilianolimamoreira5002
      @maximilianolimamoreira5002 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      how is the Italian campaign going,corporal Napoleon?

    • @floridarebel987
      @floridarebel987 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I think the Harp has more culture and apparently it's seen as rebellious so i personally approve but I'm just an American.

    • @danielcarthy9250
      @danielcarthy9250 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@floridarebel987 it's hard to recreate and the harp flag is the flag of leinster already

    • @the11382
      @the11382 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@danielcarthy9250 Better solution: Abstractify the harp to simplify the flag. Flags are meant to be simple. Remove the detail and keep the core essence.

    • @danielcarthy9250
      @danielcarthy9250 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@the11382 how could one make the harp simple enough to draw and look good?

  • @instigatorobearga
    @instigatorobearga 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Absolutely brilliant, well done. Ar son saoirse na hEireann!

  • @kwanele.gumede
    @kwanele.gumede 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    The tricoloured one is used because it's easier to draw. You're welcome 😊

  • @nixot84e
    @nixot84e 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video, always look forward to your new uploads

  • @jgr7487
    @jgr7487 4 ปีที่แล้ว +42

    no Wilhelmus. thumbs down & unsubbed!
    great vid, tho.

  • @RhodianColossus
    @RhodianColossus 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Ireland's called the Emerald Isle also because it is *aggressively* green in colour.

  • @michaelmessenger5742
    @michaelmessenger5742 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    It's the harp of king David
    Belonging to the lost and scattered northern tribes of old 💪🦁👑

  • @ems7623
    @ems7623 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    If Ulster rejoins the rest of Ireland as some think might be a possibility now that Sinn Fein are in government in Stormont, the Irish may need to return to this flag. The tricolor has become heavily associated with the IRA in the minds of northern protestants - despite the fact that it was originally designed to be inclusive (green & orange - Catholic and Protestant.)
    Symbolism is a fickle thing.

  • @peterhoulihan9766
    @peterhoulihan9766 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I think it's very unlikely that the word Cláirseach entered Ireland as late as the Dal Ríadan period given that it's a key element in Irish folk tales going back much much farther.
    Also, trying to draw a link between Cruit and Cláirseach is a bit tenuous. Cruit ultimately comes from the British word for the island of Britain: Prydain. In Q-celtic the P becomes replaced with a hard Q (or "c") and we get Crydain. Irish is notorious for knocking the endings off words so it's an easy jump from there to Cryt or Cruit. The word Prydain dates back to at least the third century BC, which was long long long before the Dal Ríada emerged or there was any serious Gaelic colonisation of scotland. The common proposed etymology for Prydain is "Pritani" meaning "painted people," and indeed classical writers do attest the British were fond of prominent tattoos.
    The word cláirseach seems to relate to clár, meaning an organised work surface, suggesting the original instrument going by that name was more like a lyre.

    • @brianmacc1934
      @brianmacc1934 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      and there endth the first lesson , be seated

    • @peterhoulihan9766
      @peterhoulihan9766 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@deiniolbythynnwr926 Doubt it, since I'm not a republican.
      Edit: Plus, if I was just taking an Irish slant, why would I claim the classical image of the Irish harp is a relatively recent import? :P

    • @thenextshenanigantownandth4393
      @thenextshenanigantownandth4393 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Absolutely agree with this. Still it's fun to speculate even the more out there theories. Could the harps change in appearence from lyre to what we see now be connected with Christianity in ireland? Maybe not, but why the change from lyre to that style of harp?

    • @thenextshenanigantownandth4393
      @thenextshenanigantownandth4393 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@deiniolbythynnwr926 how is it revisionism?

    • @peterhoulihan9766
      @peterhoulihan9766 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@thenextshenanigantownandth4393 I'm not a luthier or a harp player so I'm not really sure, but I think those kinds of modern harps allow for longer/more strings compared to zither style harps with the strings running across the soundbox.

  • @rhodiusscrolls3080
    @rhodiusscrolls3080 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The Harp that once through Taras Halls...
    They were going to put the Sacred Heart on the Irish flag but never did

  • @gavinparks5386
    @gavinparks5386 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I know this is a sensitive issue , but I'm genuinely curious to know if there will be any celebrations of 1922 in 2022 in the Republic of Ireland ? It will be the centenary of independence of sorts but also the anniversary of partition. We never marked the 300th anniversary of 1707 in Scotland because it was reckoned to be too provocative. Also it's not that long since my local town in the west of Scotland was all closed up on a Saturday as it hosted a big Orange Walk.

    • @johndoe-ss9bz
      @johndoe-ss9bz 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      They are Subservient to the Crown of England. They are "Super-Loyal" and wish to be "Subjects of the Crown" rather than "Citizens of a Free Scottish Nation". The Rebels left and fought the Crown for American Independence.

    • @MrBulky992
      @MrBulky992 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@johndoe-ss9bzThere is no "crown of England" - not since 1707.

  • @Stemilion9
    @Stemilion9 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Well impressed with your pronunciations-good work Seán.👍✌

  • @tobiaswillcock2534
    @tobiaswillcock2534 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The people of Barbados salute our Irish Republican brothers and sisters...Go raibh maith agat

  • @liammurphy8254
    @liammurphy8254 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Wow, That's the "Ryanair" logo. The Ryanair logo is also woman with wings on a blue background.

  • @chiron14pl
    @chiron14pl 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Nice video. Some thoughts on the harp; You didn’t comment much on the role of harp in Irish music and cultural heritage. While harp and drum are part so are the pipes. They share the latter with Scotland, though each culture has different forms of pipes. The harp is ancient, derived from the lyre of antiquity, a distant cousin to both guitar, violin and other string instruments. Music is a core feature of Irish culture much enjoyed by all.

    • @MrSchizoid405
      @MrSchizoid405 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Well the Irish bagpipes were arguably identical to the Scottish bagpipes, but became extinct due to British occupation during the Tudor period. Interestingly enough the Irish were the first to use the bagpipes in battle not the scottish. The bagpipes were more associated with Ireland than Scotland back then, but the bagpipes are a Arabic invention go figure.

  • @kieranlindsay9480
    @kieranlindsay9480 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    7:57 the flag shown is the flag flown in England, the Scots one has two rampant lions and the three English lions on the top right in sure

  • @thedukeofdeathpt6262
    @thedukeofdeathpt6262 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    When you play Crusader Kings 2 in the newb island

  • @rentaspoon219
    @rentaspoon219 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hello I'm Sheldon Cooper and welcome to fun with flags

  • @anthonyseymour1403
    @anthonyseymour1403 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    This is a really good presentation but I must point out things in it that I believe are incorrect. The United Irishmen were an amalgam of Catholics and Protestants and not just led by a Protestant. The difference being that the Protestants were deserters who were also discriminated against like the Catholics were. Only Anglicans were not discriminated against. The next one I'm not so sure of but I believe that Sinn Fein didn't support the 1916 Rising

    • @silverdeathgamer2907
      @silverdeathgamer2907 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Sin Féín didn't support the rising but it was called the Sin Féín rising colloquially and they were credited with starting the rising and their members were interned, they were also very active opposing conscription in Ireland. Their leader Arthur Griffith wanted a dual monarchy system like the Austro-Hungarian empire however after those interned were released with many joining the party in order to use it to aid in achieving independence and with the public desire for greater independence exacerbated by internment and the execution of most of the leaders of 1916 rising the party began taking a harder stance towards independence.

    • @anthonyseymour1403
      @anthonyseymour1403 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@silverdeathgamer2907
      Thanks

    • @johndoe-ss9bz
      @johndoe-ss9bz 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Presbyterians were not up to Anglican Ascendancy. They were treated by English Law as "Second-Class Protestants".

  • @Artur_M.
    @Artur_M. 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I love both your flag videos and the Celtic-related videos, so this is ideal!
    That picture at 9:27 is particularly fascinating. I'm of course especially curious how did Polish Eagle end up there? Was it just a sign of solidarity just after the Third (final) Partition and admiration to people like Kościuszko or did some Poles actually take part in the Irish uprising?
    Edit: I did some searching online and apparently this picture shows a celebration of the Bastille Day, 1792 in Belfast. So it is rather in the period leading to the 1798 Rebellion, still immensely interesting though. In the context of the situation in Poland, it would be just after the Russian invasion that abruptly ended the progressive constitutional reforms (and later led to the Second Partition, Kościuszko Uprising and the Third Partition).
    Also, as I said before, it would be really great if you would make such a video about the flags of Belarus. I realize that at this point I'm like Cato calling for the destruction of Carthage, I hope it's not annoying.

    • @AshArAis
      @AshArAis 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Would Poland have been a Catholic country at this point too? Often there seems to be alliances through history based on Catholicism.

    • @Artur_M.
      @Artur_M. 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@AshArAis It indeed was (if you don't count the Protestant minority, much bigger Eastern Orthodox one, the biggest Jewish community in Europe and even a small Muslim one). In this case, I'd say it was rather the Society of United Irishmen solidarizing with the reformers in Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth in the spirit of the new Enlightenment ideas of Liberty and so one, especially as their efforts and very independence were threatened by an imperialistic neighbour (which was something they surely could relate to).
      The role of the Catholic Church in the events unfolding in Poland-Lithuania in this period is actually very complicated. There is a book about it available in English _The Polish Revolution and the Catholic Church, 1788-92: A Political History_ by Richard Butterwick, which I admittedly haven't read but I've heard good things about it. A new book by the same author _The Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth, 1733-1795: Light and Flame_ is soon to be published.

    • @Artur_M.
      @Artur_M. 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@antseanbheanbocht4993 Thanks for recommending the Wolf Tone's speech!

    • @KoziPLUS
      @KoziPLUS 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Can’t see the polish eagle. is it Is below the us flag. Cuz if that’s the case it seems to be business sign, with a Phoenix on it?

    • @Artur_M.
      @Artur_M. 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@KoziPLUS To be perfectly honest, I wouldn't recognize our eagle in this picture either but apparently descriptions of the celebrations in Belfast mention "banners representing America, France, Poland, Great Britain and Ireland".
      comeheretome.com/2019/07/14/bastille-day-in-1790s-ireland/
      Also, this might be actually in 1791, not 92.

  • @jenniferdaly1106
    @jenniferdaly1106 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I live in Ireland

    • @user-qd7tf7gz6s
      @user-qd7tf7gz6s 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I live in Scotland 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿🇬🇧

  • @flyingfishie401
    @flyingfishie401 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Your Irish pronunciations are really good, great job