I was born in Derry City in the north and got a BA in Archaeology and Greek and Roman Civilization in UCD Dublin (even took a specific class on the High Kingship of Ireland) and I feel you did a fairly good job portraying the snapshot of Ireland and the political situation there in 1066. I am actually a descendant of Domnall Ua Lochlainn, who is depicted in the game as being the ruler of Oriel (not accurate of course as you explained). Unfortunately, the start date of 1066 was a really messy time for the Kingdom of Aileach (pronounced like the name Alec by the way). So it looks like they decided to try to simplify it a bit. An Áed Ua hUalgairg was King of Aileach in 1066 but he is gone only a year later, replaced by Domnall mac Néill (the Poor) in 1067 who himself was replaced in 1068 by another Áed, Áed mac Néill who lasted until 1083 when Domnall Ua Lochlainn, my ancestor, finally became King of Aileach (after a very brief stint by a guy named Donnchad mac Néill who didn't even last a year). The real king of Airgíalla (Oriel is the anglicized name so not accurate at this point) in 1066 was a certain Leathlobair Ua Laidhgnen. Don't know anything about him specifically. So I can forgive the game developers saying screw it. lol
I lived on Derry for a few years. It's a great city with charming and funny people with a very complicated history! Crazy that it's the only European city to still have its old city walls
@@antonironstag5085 that fact about the walls can't be true knowing how many historical-looking cities are scattered across the continent. Maybe it was for the British isles only?
This is such an excellent concept! Using crusader kings, and other titles, to teach history! You nailed the execution! Do you have any idea on what you’re doing next?
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th-cam.com/users/Rosencreutzzz is a really good channel for stuff like this. It’s not the exact same as they deal with less specific history and more philosophy but they do really good videos!
@@historyinbits It was a great video! My only quibble was that you didn't post your sources, which I think is important. I would also be interested in them.
Just a heads up, the language spoken in Ireland isn’t typically called Gaelic, I think that’s more so for Scotland. Far as I’m aware it can be called gaelic, and is included in that group of languages, but typically is referred to by another name. Irelands language is called Irish in English, and Gaeilge in Irish. It’s closely related to Scottish Gaelic but it’s not the same. Your pronunciation for Irish words seemed pretty good to me overall though
I came here to say the same thing. It's a minor nitpick but the idea that the Irish language is called Gaelic has this odd ubiquity outside of Ireland. In Ireland it's extra confusing because we have Gaelic Football, and many people simply refer to Gaelic Football as just "Gaelic". The end result is that well intentioned foreigners often end up doing the equivalent of asking us if we speak soccer Edit: by the way I really enjoyed the video
With the Rite tenant added to Insular as well, it's now more focused on the idea that it's simply a slight deviation from Catholicism itself. They still recognize the Pope as their head of faith within the current game state, which brings certain advantages and disadvantages.
Nice to see Ireland getting some attention. I've made a number of videos on Ireland in CK3 on my channel, including one on Murchad. I'd be interested to know what sources you have that say he ruled until 1068 as all the ones I've read say that Toirdelbach ruled Munster from 1063. Paradox copied the Munster Kings list from Wikipedia and Murchad was added to that as the result of a misreading of an Irish academic text. Toirdelbach was the ruler of Munster in the 1066 start in CK1 but later games took heavily from Wikipedia, for which I think they can be criticized. 6:56 You say you couldn't find any characters in Meath that reflected real historical figures. The guy on screen as you say that, Conchobar Ua Máelshechlainn, defeated Murchad (King of Dublin) in 1070 (which resulted in his death) and then killed his father, Diarmaid mac Máel na mBó (King of Leinster/High King) in 1072, after which Toirdelbach rose to the High Kingship. The guy who made the improved insular christianity mod also did one where Toirdelbach starts as King of Munster. If you haven't check out forvo (.) com, it has recordings of native speakers of various languages pronouncing words. Lots of Irish names and place names there.
You are mocking (a bit :) ) the comments about Insular Christianity, but one of the main historical critics is valid : in the 9th century (and pre Gregorian Reform catholicism in general) lot of places in Europe would have their own flavour of catholicism and are not in the game as a Faith, and Insular Christianity is in CK3 only because it is well known in an english speaking country.
That’s a very good point. It would be interesting to see how complex one could explore the various branches of Catholicism and the other main faiths. But perhaps a bit frightening to new players! And we promise the mocking is in good faith, and just a bit of fun !
@History in Bits I'm the developer of the Improved Insular mod. Check out the TIP Vol. II mod - play it with no other mods enabled. I think you'll enjoy Ireland in that; hope you decide to make a vid!
You didn’t need to say the English names for the Irish provinces in a modern Irish accent haha. That’s like saying New York, California and Texas in an American accent.
With Struggle for Iberian DLC, insular shares religious head of the pope with the Catholic church with mozarab (new faith). Definitely think it is odd to have a new faith represented in the game yet no mozarabic culture in.
If you do another breakdown like this, I highly suggest Armenia and the Caucasus as a whole, Paradox seems pretty confused when choosing rulers there. For example, in 867 they have the historical Bagrationi ruler of Tao-Klarjeti be the ruler of Kakheti for some reason, when in reality Kakheti was ruled by the independent Donauri dynasty. The guy they have ruling Tao-Klarjeti should actually be ruling in the principality of Daron/Taron, which doesn't even exist in-game!
It makes so much sense to explain the historical backgrounds of the game, because you understand so much more about the roles and the context! Great! And very entertaining!
Changes were made in both 1.5 and 1.6 versions that make Insular seem more like a regional branch of Catholics. 1.5 made polygamy an Irish cultural tradition rather than a tenet of Insular. 1.6 made the Pope the spiritual leader of Insular.
Just an idea, but if you do decide to do more of these kinds of videos for CK3, you should also consider adding the characters you talk about to the "Interesting characters" page on the Crusader Kings 3 wiki. Lots of players check there for ideas of whom to play, and I imagine you could add quite a bit to it with your research.
I've been playing Ireland as a majority of my games since before Holy Fury in CK2 and love the setting, hoping one day I'll be able to visit and see Eire for myself. Great video, btw.
My first game of CK3 was on Murchad. I remember conquering that island in like 10 years county by county without acknowledging the "broke a truce" debuff. Everyone hated this guy and I was like why the fuck??? My domain limit was like 12/4 and probably all of them had 0 control. Game finished with a rebellion that took the Irish throne.
While I struggled my way through playing as the Rurikid dynasty before playing as Count Eudes of Anjou, Ireland is such a relaxing way to get into the game. I’ve been messing around with Norse invasions of the British Isles and it always ends up that Ireland just chills while we all duke it out
Really good video, just want to say although our system was similar to feudalism, It was very different in many ways too, mainly in the structure of command as a chieftain didn’t have an heir, instead that heir would be voted upon by the entire family including everyone but the lower class, slaves and serfs. The chief also held less power than for example an English feudal lord as there was a council between the upper class of the clan called a „derbfine“ which could often overrule the decision of a chief.
As an Irish person, I have to compliment the pronunciation of Old and Middle Irish names and places! I haven't a clue if you used the IPA in order to accurately pronounce them but it was really well done!
I saw someone else had corrected the Gaelic bit and your pronunciations are generally very good for a non-speaker, but my one clarification would be that Irish people just call the state Ireland, it's only Brits that call it Republic of Ireland (which is a football team, not the proper name for the country!) Great video, thanks!
Tbh there should be more christian faiths in Catholic regions make pope head of them same way you allow sunni caliphate to control multiple Muslim faiths
I think the funniest thing here is that CK3 finally actually made Ireland not the best place to start for a new player.... and then immediately reversed that with it's first major DLC by making the kingdom of mann just stupidly OP. Sure, you either need a custom ruler or to "start" somewhere else, but most norse factions can extremely easily just pop a varangian adventure and go move to Ireland. And a lot of the smaller norse factions start in nearly the same exact situation as most of the Irish leaders, especially places like Iceland, etc. At launch, everyone was actually super excited for the fact that you were generally better off starting off somewhere like Italy as a vassal of the HRE, but then they just had to go and give the british isles not just the single most overpowered decision in the game, but also a second major decision that gives you a huge de jure empire that you can VERY easily jump into from the first decision. And now we're just straight back to "yeah, just start in ireland lul".
I adored my time with the Petty Kingdom of Munster which I turned into the Kingdom of Ireland...my greatest achievements was adopting to Catholicism and participating in the crusades, I basically carried the team and installed my benefactor, my brother as King of Jerusalem. Shortly after I had a somewhat unsuccessful conquest of Iberia(tried to revived the celtiberians) and eventually installed my sister as Queen of Galicia. Then my character died, meaning Jerusalem's and Galicia split of from Ireland as per inheritance laws, and my new character had a bad relationship towards his uncle and aunt. And finally, as a noob I thought I could conquer England with the help of my ally, my brother in law, the holy roman emperor, but refused to join, so I quit...tried coming back to that save after the Royal Court update released, but it's corrupted...Regardless and TLDR, there will always be a spot in my heart for Ireland in CK3, regardless of slander.
I guess you cant get around trying to conquer England in order to form an empire, otherwise the inheritance laws will just keep screwing you. Thank you for sharing :)
Very nice video! Part of my love of CK3 is because it fuels my love of medieval history, so dives into what aspects of the game are historical vs. strictly mechanical are always welcome in my book. RE: the subject of "Insular" Christianity in the game, it's worth noting that the devs have stated they aren't fully satisfied with current religious mechanics in CK3. There have already been some changes (perhaps most notably in the form of allowing multiple faiths to share a single spiritual head, so as to more accurately portray the Islamic world), and I wouldn't be surprised if we see a future religion-focused update that includes making the dynamic between the two Catholicisms a bit more nuanced.
i'm not irish, but i'm Scottish and speak Scottish gaelic(Gàidhlig), a language that roots off irish(Gaeilge). As a Gàidhlig speaker i think your pronouncations were brilliant.
Okay. But how historically accurate it is that, one way or the other, Ireland always becomes one with Iceland? One always seems to conquer the other. (Even though Island is just a Duchy)
Pronunciation was actually pretty damn good. Not quite perfect, of course, but clearly researched and not just looking at the word and trying to use English phonics.
as an Irish person I can say this is a really great representation of my countries history, although it might have been better to describe the differences between mainland feudalism and pre Norman Irish Brehon law because the Irish was based a lot more in pre Christiaan Celtic customs and laws and was almost democratic in a way definitely look it up it's very interesting. over all though an-maith buachaill
I'm Kinda sad I can't play as Olaf the White like in CK2, Always found it more fun to unite Ireland as him rather than Ivar the Boneless. But oh well maybe one day I will come around and do that and form a Norse-Gaels Kingdom/Empire
Ahh Pope Adrian IV...the result of sending my 10-eye assassin to Rome and taking out 23 Popes until my cardinal was finally elected (before dying from old next the following turn).
This video was excellent! It was really fascinating to see all the detail put into this little corner of the map. I think I want to do some more research of my own in a similar vein, particularly with Novgorod, as that was the first region I ever played as in CK3.
@@historyinbits definitely should. Its good fun. Maybe not the best start, but once youre knowledgable its quite enjoyable (if you can bear a fee viking invasions)
Eh, I think the only funky thing about Insular Christianity is that it often spreads and becomes popular elsewhere, and it's SUPER bizarre seeing an "insular" religion go mainstream in Continental Europe.
I want to let you know that Paradox has modified Insular Christianity in the “Fate of Iberia” as part of the free patch. The new Rite tenant allows a faith to have the Catholic Pope as their head of faith while having different doctrines. It does give the Catholic Pope a -10 opinion of characters of faiths with Rite. Mozarabic Christianity which was the focus of the DLC was given a unique decision to either bind to Rome or break with Rome. I have not played as Irish since the update so I don’t know if they have a similar decision, but I hope they do. I would also like to see your opinion on Irish Culture as represented in the free update that accompanied the Royal Court DLC. As Ireland is a small part of my family history I am always curious to learn more.
Great video, and I do appreciate the huge effort made in the pronunciation. I started in Wexford, to play as Leinster since Dublin is Norse. And I have to disagree that Insular is a net negative, polygamy is a huge boon in dynastic system of Ck3.
My favorite way to play ck3 is to go from being a backward wetlands Irish ruler to conquering Britannia. I stay out of the continent though, it's a nasty business.
Id have an easyer time ruling a medival kingdom than playing CK2. One requires knowlage of people and institutions other requires gaming knowlage and that games knowlage.
Well that was weird, first actual footage of ireland (clocktower) in the clip is about 200 steps from my front door. I swear we are not that small of a country.
ireland ends to be an easy playgound once the north come over and over with their giant armies out of the blue :D at least for someone who doesn't know what he is doing... also they start fairly early to conquer ireland from england and scotland as well... so worst case your rain will be short if you don't have any clue :D I guess there are far easier starts
I think Paradox have been quite smart letting som Christian faiths share head of faith. It reflects how hard it was for the church to maintain a strikt adhesion to all it's doctrines in remote places far from Rome. I don't see these faiths as truly separate as they accepts the pope as head of faith.
Edit: sorry for the wall of text! I'm not nearly as well informed on the subject as I'd like to be, but it seems a bit ridiculous in my mind that Insular Christianity can not only *convert* Catholic counties, but that it can spread beyond even Britain. I have a similar gripe with Mozarabic Christianity since I've seen too many games where a "heresy outbreak" converts France to the Mozarabic Rite which is just ridiculous. I honestly think is a bit of an outdated mechanic as religious traditions counter to the mainstream Catholic Church evolved many times as a response to perceived excesses on the part of Rome like the Waldensians or the Lollards or the Fracticelli back in CK2, and the game mechanics more or less treat them as diseases that just pop up every once in a while - nevermind the fact the Mozarabic Rite isn't really a heresy and is a rite within the Catholic Church with a rich history that is *still* celebrated (I believe a few years ago a Mozarabic Mass was celebrated in Rome!). Personally I think religious mechanics need a major overhaul even after the addition of "rites"- perhaps a score keeping track religious relations between two Christian faiths, allowing for "unions" so long as they are compatible in terms of tenets? It would perhaps allow for the 867 start to have a "united" Eastern and Western Christianity and provide a compromise, as the Great Schism would still happen, and indeed a motivated player might wish to take advantage of the autonomous state of the Irish Church and formally break it from Rome. Could allow for interesting roleplay, I think.
@maniacalinc has done a lot of videos on Ireland's portrayal in Paradox games including a detailed look at Murchad which I'll link here. th-cam.com/video/tX6W0H9R7yc/w-d-xo.html
I don’t think you acknowledged it so I’ll mention it, The pope now leads the Insular faith to make it a bit better, I believe you need the royal court DLC though
I always start in Ireland. I love working my way up from Desmond, uniting the Irish and then taking out the norse populations. Then I slowly work my way through Wales and Cornwall. My favourite way to completely taking over Brittania 😊😊❤❤
I came into CK2 prepared, having watched who knows how many tutorials, so I hopped directly into Muslim Spain. Started as Count of Garnatah and fucked around from there. My first four CK2 campaigns were all from that same start, cuz I’m an Andalusia fanboy
I had a super-fun run with the irish. Started by consolidating the island, and declaring the high-kingdom. Then my next ruler establihed a new religion, based on the mad visions he recieved in his holy trance. And slowly the rest of the irish people saw the light, and decided to follow in the footsteps of st. eochad. The Pope, being the pope, was not amused that we had completely left the catholic fold. A huge crusade ensued, which I lost. The enitre island kingdom was usurped by french and english crusaders, and my dynasty were decimated. I ended with only one county in the hebrides, and only 6 living members of my family. I was about to rage-quit, but then I though, this is what makes ck3 fun; to roll with your losses and try even harder. So the rest of the game I spent reclaiing the island bit by bit, and not only for my own dynasty, but I did everything in my power to conquer and reinstate the old irish noble-families in their respective ancestral duchys. The satisfaction when the usurper french king was secured in my dungeon was real! (Albeit, I did end up converting to catholisism, just to ensure it would not get taken away from me again. I guess the pope won in any case) Only a small county in the hills of meath remained true to the raving visions of st. eochad who had brought this misfortune upon the land in the first place.
I always wondered if we unified early, Ireland didn't become a kingdom until 18 June 1542, and that Kingdom was a client state of the Kingdom of England from its inception until 1 May 1707 when the Kingdoms of England and Scotland merged to Great Britain until 1 January 1801 was when Great Britain and the Kingdom of Ireland merged to create the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland.
Ireland seems fine from what you've said. Anatolia is honestly one of the biggest historical inaccuracies in terms of culture, in the game. There's just a sea of Greek rather than it being separated into Greek which occupies mainland Greece and the coasts, Cappadocian which occupies the middle of Anatolia and is a hybrid culture, Pontic which occupies areas of the Black sea coast of Anatolia and is a hybrid culture between Greek and Persian and lastly Italiot which exists mainly in southern Italy and Sicily. It's weird that Paradox chose to split every other previously monolithic culture other than Greek.
In every game, I always start off with a low ranking, nobody character, who slowly rises through the ranks through Machiavellian scheming, opportunities, battles, good relations with the lords..etc It's just more satisfying and relateable, instead of starting off immediately as a king or emperor.
Brilliant work, thanks for the video and very good effort on all the pronunciations too. You clearly put a lot of effort into this and when I spotted your number of subscribers I was shocked, really solid start to your channel and wishing you the very best of luck in growing it
In 1066, I started out with Petty King Murchad of Munster, and eventually unified the High Kingdom of Ireland. Now, it is 1390, the Briain dynasty unified Britannia after the conquests of Scotland, Wales, and England. Under the watchful eyes of the Irish Emperors, the realm claims land from the frosty volcanic wastes of Iceland, to the barren deserts of Egypt and the Holy Land. The Irish persisted, even as the Mongols waited across the English Channel whilst they pillaged Europe for all it was worth, and eventually disintegrated. House Briain has endured wars, infighting, foreign invasions, uprisings, plagues, and even put all of Christendom's holy sites under it's watch to mend the Schisms and evangelize the Levant and Egypt to the one true faith, doing what numerous crusades could not and establishing its glory across the world. Emperor Donnúcan 'The Justicar' has nearly 70,000 troops to his name and was last seen, at the age of 51, leading his armies in carving out a kingdom in Jerusalem for his kinsmen to rule and convert. Not bad for the tutorial start.
I started my CK3 career in the EK2 mod, with the Empire of Elsweyr There were so many factions against me, I had no idea what I was doing and after murdering 26 characters I was finally murdered myself Then i tried out vanilla in Iceland and it was very fun, I formed my own empire after the Danelaw and England weakened eachother and then had a crusade take England back from me and then somehow corrupted my save. Naturally, the Pope was sadistic so it clearly decided to break the save to rub my loss in
You got insular christianity wrong. When they added cultural traditions they replaced Ireland's religion with monogamous and made the culture polygamous. Which is probably more accurate.
11:23 Exactly how English people see Irish people. Bravo. "I don't want to be seen as anti-Irish." It is okay. Everyone who is Germanic hates Celtic men. Not Celtic People. We don't hate the women. Women are just women. They just follow what is expected of them, but Celtic Men are Beta Men. I mean it is in terms of authentic observation. And as much as it was possible to interpret Ireland's centralizations, I have to disagree. Name me one group of Celts who actually sought unification of his entire realm? You do have people claiming to be King of Wales or actually King of the Britons, but those people are actually King of multiple different realms like Powys that they didn't unify into one. Wales wasn't unified until the English took it. Celts aren't conquerors. They (the men) are raiders based on spite and they are concentrators. They make good housekeepers and slaves and that is about it. One made a decent general in Napoleon's army, but his lack of ambition made him just good for being a staff sargeant, which he should had stayed as since being a really good general requires taking risks like Julius Caesar, Aurelian, Majorian, and Basil the Bulgar Slayer. Italians and Greeks are likely to be Alpha along with the English and other Germanic People, but Celts are Beta.
I did Gaelic Studies at University (albeit focussing on Scotland rather than Ireland), and you honestly don't do a bad job of the pronunciations, doubly so for someone with no other exposure to the language. Really refreshing and a far cry from the absolute butcherings I'm used to from much of elsewhere in the CK/Paradox TH-cam scene. Obair dhiongalta, cum ort!
My career as an incestuous murdering psychopath began in Wales rather than Ireland... less "Noob island" and more "Tryhard region"! The effort to unify and defend Cymru from the starting point of Gwynedd (playing a mid-lifecycle copy of CK2) was brutal and required several fresh tries and more than a little scumming to learn where I was going wrong and what to do better, but I think I came out of it more properly educated about how to survive and eventually thrive. Aside from that, I immediately recognised that it would be easier to form a Celtic Empire of Brittania (or as I renamed it, "Supreme Principality of Prydain") if I prevented England from ever being a thing in the first place, using the wealth and resources stolen from the Britons to incorporate the Pictish/Gallic north and THEN conquer Eire in its entirety rather than trying to take mainland Great Britain as an Ard-Ri. Scotland is a fuck to deal with, and even a partially unified England can be straight-out impossible if you let them start to snowball.
I started as a tiny county in Africa. Realm devide scared me half to death, but after the third time it happened, I finally figured out what was happening, but had no idea how to stop it. After killing serveral generations worth of siblings and vassals to keep my domain, I was finally removed from power shortly after I establised the Empire Of Guinea. What brought me down, you ask? War? Rebellion? No. I just didn't know what matrilineal marraige meant. So my son was not from my dynasty.
My favorite memory of Ireland in CK3 is when I first started playing and ended up with an Irish Brittania, with every ruler for the past 100+ years being Brian mac Brian
Ireland is a tutorial island. I played it after I started to play as Litovoi the count of Succeava and vassal of Izaislav Rurkid. My neighboring pechengs were looting me in 1.0 and Izaislav was in mass revolution. Eventually I defeated them even with 3 sinful personalities. And took land in moldova. Then I died and game over cause my son was of Rurkid dinasty. I restarted it several times and one time I managed to create duchy of bukovina and help my liege play wars and profit from them. And lastly I revolted in another playthroug and made Kingdom of Moldova. It was a better way of learning than being in an island and play 50 years then afk 400.
Seeing how well informed your videos are, I would like to know what starting date (and why) you would like to see being added to ck3 ? Any intriguing kingdom / potential characters you thinks would made adding another starting date relevant. Thanks 👍
Nice video and all, but I need to bring attention to something far more important. You have Edge Scrolling enabled. What kind of maniac subjects themselves to that annoyance?
Never played in ireland in ck3. Would be a fun multiplayer challenge for everyone to be a different irish lord and try to unite ireland under ones own rule. Also idk if its just me but i think that another good ”noob” start for ck3 is as a duke in the hre since theres alot of opportunities naturally progress and become the ruler of the hre and expand your empire. Also the elections are quite fun for me to manipulate the results of in my favor
Not history, but playing in West Africa is a good place for learning how tribal systems work, although if you don’t start conquering immediately you are going to have a hard time.
I had multiple campaigns in Ireland in CK2. I conquered the entire island and even became Holy Roman Emperor, taking Iceland, parts of Scotland...it was a weird game. This video brought back memories.
You didn't mention Dal Fiatach at all. How could this be a realistic overview when you ignore the most historically significant rulers in all of Ireland?
personally, i think using Ethiopia as noob island (mountain?) is equally valid, and it has some diversity in the region that can teach you about getting holywared and ruled over by foreigners
with the upcoming landless DLC coming later this year it would be a really interesting(and I assume difficult) start to paly as the guy at 3:57 and try to get the kingdom of Ireland before your death
back in ck2, i actually started in scotland. scotland was the only playable tribe kingdom since it was the only cristian tribe and was a whoal kingdom, i prefer playing as tribal over feudal
Hey one thing about the Irish "not being catholic" they now in game have the 'rite' tenant to their version of christianity. Which allows a new faith to keep their old head of faith. So they still recognize the pope as leader of christianity, but their indivdual tenants are different.
For some reason my twisted brain prevents me from playing as people who did well in the time period. I’ve never played as england or France in vic and hre or France in ck, but I always play as France in hoi4
I was born in Derry City in the north and got a BA in Archaeology and Greek and Roman Civilization in UCD Dublin (even took a specific class on the High Kingship of Ireland) and I feel you did a fairly good job portraying the snapshot of Ireland and the political situation there in 1066.
I am actually a descendant of Domnall Ua Lochlainn, who is depicted in the game as being the ruler of Oriel (not accurate of course as you explained).
Unfortunately, the start date of 1066 was a really messy time for the Kingdom of Aileach (pronounced like the name Alec by the way). So it looks like they decided to try to simplify it a bit. An Áed Ua hUalgairg was King of Aileach in 1066 but he is gone only a year later, replaced by Domnall mac Néill (the Poor) in 1067 who himself was replaced in 1068 by another Áed, Áed mac Néill who lasted until 1083 when Domnall Ua Lochlainn, my ancestor, finally became King of Aileach (after a very brief stint by a guy named Donnchad mac Néill who didn't even last a year).
The real king of Airgíalla (Oriel is the anglicized name so not accurate at this point) in 1066 was a certain Leathlobair Ua Laidhgnen. Don't know anything about him specifically.
So I can forgive the game developers saying screw it. lol
Thank you so much for your professional input and positive feedback!
Funny coincidence, my first ever game was with Aileach and I really loved it
I lived on Derry for a few years. It's a great city with charming and funny people with a very complicated history! Crazy that it's the only European city to still have its old city walls
@@antonironstag5085 that fact about the walls can't be true knowing how many historical-looking cities are scattered across the continent. Maybe it was for the British isles only?
@@antonironstag5085I’m Italian and I can assure u that most of Italian cities have still their ancient walls.
@@historyinbitsStarting on an Insular holy site is a power move. That or Desmond because it's slightly more developed.
This is such an excellent concept! Using crusader kings, and other titles, to teach history! You nailed the execution! Do you have any idea on what you’re doing next?
This means a lot to us, thank you very much! And thank you for subscribing! Our next video will probably be a historical assessment of the 1990s city-builder ‘Caesar 3’.
th-cam.com/users/Rosencreutzzz is a really good channel for stuff like this. It’s not the exact same as they deal with less specific history and more philosophy but they do really good videos!
@@historyinbits It was a great video! My only quibble was that you didn't post your sources, which I think is important. I would also be interested in them.
@@historyinbits could you please look at how the middle east is portrayed versus real life?
He hasnt in the least tho...
Just a heads up, the language spoken in Ireland isn’t typically called Gaelic, I think that’s more so for Scotland. Far as I’m aware it can be called gaelic, and is included in that group of languages, but typically is referred to by another name. Irelands language is called Irish in English, and Gaeilge in Irish. It’s closely related to Scottish Gaelic but it’s not the same. Your pronunciation for Irish words seemed pretty good to me overall though
Thank you so much for your input! Do you speak Irish?
I came here to say the same thing. It's a minor nitpick but the idea that the Irish language is called Gaelic has this odd ubiquity outside of Ireland. In Ireland it's extra confusing because we have Gaelic Football, and many people simply refer to Gaelic Football as just "Gaelic". The end result is that well intentioned foreigners often end up doing the equivalent of asking us if we speak soccer
Edit: by the way I really enjoyed the video
@@OisínMcColgan Nooo my Irish brother, don't tell me that in Ireland you guys say soccer too instead of football😔
@@kunatix7033 We say football, but that just makes my earlier comment even more confusing
@@kunatix7033 We call it ground ball or the foreign game.
With the Rite tenant added to Insular as well, it's now more focused on the idea that it's simply a slight deviation from Catholicism itself. They still recognize the Pope as their head of faith within the current game state, which brings certain advantages and disadvantages.
Nice to see Ireland getting some attention. I've made a number of videos on Ireland in CK3 on my channel, including one on Murchad. I'd be interested to know what sources you have that say he ruled until 1068 as all the ones I've read say that Toirdelbach ruled Munster from 1063. Paradox copied the Munster Kings list from Wikipedia and Murchad was added to that as the result of a misreading of an Irish academic text. Toirdelbach was the ruler of Munster in the 1066 start in CK1 but later games took heavily from Wikipedia, for which I think they can be criticized.
6:56 You say you couldn't find any characters in Meath that reflected real historical figures. The guy on screen as you say that, Conchobar Ua Máelshechlainn, defeated Murchad (King of Dublin) in 1070 (which resulted in his death) and then killed his father, Diarmaid mac Máel na mBó (King of Leinster/High King) in 1072, after which Toirdelbach rose to the High Kingship. The guy who made the improved insular christianity mod also did one where Toirdelbach starts as King of Munster.
If you haven't check out forvo (.) com, it has recordings of native speakers of various languages pronouncing words. Lots of Irish names and place names there.
Following simply because of Ireland videos
Wow, thank you so much for this input!
Based and researchpilled
You are mocking (a bit :) ) the comments about Insular Christianity, but one of the main historical critics is valid : in the 9th century (and pre Gregorian Reform catholicism in general) lot of places in Europe would have their own flavour of catholicism and are not in the game as a Faith, and Insular Christianity is in CK3 only because it is well known in an english speaking country.
That’s a very good point. It would be interesting to see how complex one could explore the various branches of Catholicism and the other main faiths. But perhaps a bit frightening to new players!
And we promise the mocking is in good faith, and just a bit of fun !
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I'm the developer of the Improved Insular mod. Check out the TIP Vol. II mod - play it with no other mods enabled. I think you'll enjoy Ireland in that; hope you decide to make a vid!
Very cool to hear from you! Thank you for the tip :D
You didn’t need to say the English names for the Irish provinces in a modern Irish accent haha. That’s like saying New York, California and Texas in an American accent.
With Struggle for Iberian DLC, insular shares religious head of the pope with the Catholic church with mozarab (new faith). Definitely think it is odd to have a new faith represented in the game yet no mozarabic culture in.
If you do another breakdown like this, I highly suggest Armenia and the Caucasus as a whole, Paradox seems pretty confused when choosing rulers there. For example, in 867 they have the historical Bagrationi ruler of Tao-Klarjeti be the ruler of Kakheti for some reason, when in reality Kakheti was ruled by the independent Donauri dynasty. The guy they have ruling Tao-Klarjeti should actually be ruling in the principality of Daron/Taron, which doesn't even exist in-game!
this man deserves so much more subs that he has, so much effort obviously put into this
Thank you so much for the positive feedback! Very excited about the increasing support coming in!
Really interesting idea for video and way to learn something new about history, keep it up mate 👍🏼
Thank you so much man! Really appreciate it :)
It makes so much sense to explain the historical backgrounds of the game, because you understand so much more about the roles and the context! Great! And very entertaining!
Thank you!
Great video! I'd love it if you would make more videos comparing CK3 to actual history. Great stuff!
Already working on it :)
Changes were made in both 1.5 and 1.6 versions that make Insular seem more like a regional branch of Catholics. 1.5 made polygamy an Irish cultural tradition rather than a tenet of Insular. 1.6 made the Pope the spiritual leader of Insular.
Just an idea, but if you do decide to do more of these kinds of videos for CK3, you should also consider adding the characters you talk about to the "Interesting characters" page on the Crusader Kings 3 wiki. Lots of players check there for ideas of whom to play, and I imagine you could add quite a bit to it with your research.
I've been playing Ireland as a majority of my games since before Holy Fury in CK2 and love the setting, hoping one day I'll be able to visit and see Eire for myself. Great video, btw.
My first game of CK3 was on Murchad. I remember conquering that island in like 10 years county by county without acknowledging the "broke a truce" debuff. Everyone hated this guy and I was like why the fuck??? My domain limit was like 12/4 and probably all of them had 0 control. Game finished with a rebellion that took the Irish throne.
Too keen!
(Watches this while I wait for my MacBook to offload files so I can play CK3 and have my Greco-Egyptian empress of Rome annex Ireland into the Empire)
Sounds like an interesting game! :D
While I struggled my way through playing as the Rurikid dynasty before playing as Count Eudes of Anjou, Ireland is such a relaxing way to get into the game. I’ve been messing around with Norse invasions of the British Isles and it always ends up that Ireland just chills while we all duke it out
Really good video, just want to say although our system was similar to feudalism, It was very different in many ways too, mainly in the structure of command as a chieftain didn’t have an heir, instead that heir would be voted upon by the entire family including everyone but the lower class, slaves and serfs. The chief also held less power than for example an English feudal lord as there was a council between the upper class of the clan called a „derbfine“ which could often overrule the decision of a chief.
This was done in CK2 with the tanistry succession law. I don't know if CK3 has that.
As an Irish person, I have to compliment the pronunciation of Old and Middle Irish names and places! I haven't a clue if you used the IPA in order to accurately pronounce them but it was really well done!
I saw someone else had corrected the Gaelic bit and your pronunciations are generally very good for a non-speaker, but my one clarification would be that Irish people just call the state Ireland, it's only Brits that call it Republic of Ireland (which is a football team, not the proper name for the country!)
Great video, thanks!
Tbh there should be more christian faiths in Catholic regions make pope head of them same way you allow sunni caliphate to control multiple Muslim faiths
I think the funniest thing here is that CK3 finally actually made Ireland not the best place to start for a new player....
and then immediately reversed that with it's first major DLC by making the kingdom of mann just stupidly OP.
Sure, you either need a custom ruler or to "start" somewhere else, but most norse factions can extremely easily just pop a varangian adventure and go move to Ireland. And a lot of the smaller norse factions start in nearly the same exact situation as most of the Irish leaders, especially places like Iceland, etc.
At launch, everyone was actually super excited for the fact that you were generally better off starting off somewhere like Italy as a vassal of the HRE, but then they just had to go and give the british isles not just the single most overpowered decision in the game, but also a second major decision that gives you a huge de jure empire that you can VERY easily jump into from the first decision.
And now we're just straight back to "yeah, just start in ireland lul".
I adored my time with the Petty Kingdom of Munster which I turned into the Kingdom of Ireland...my greatest achievements was adopting to Catholicism and participating in the crusades, I basically carried the team and installed my benefactor, my brother as King of Jerusalem. Shortly after I had a somewhat unsuccessful conquest of Iberia(tried to revived the celtiberians) and eventually installed my sister as Queen of Galicia. Then my character died, meaning Jerusalem's and Galicia split of from Ireland as per inheritance laws, and my new character had a bad relationship towards his uncle and aunt. And finally, as a noob I thought I could conquer England with the help of my ally, my brother in law, the holy roman emperor, but refused to join, so I quit...tried coming back to that save after the Royal Court update released, but it's corrupted...Regardless and TLDR, there will always be a spot in my heart for Ireland in CK3, regardless of slander.
I guess you cant get around trying to conquer England in order to form an empire, otherwise the inheritance laws will just keep screwing you. Thank you for sharing :)
@@historyinbits Exactly lol🤣
Very nice video! Part of my love of CK3 is because it fuels my love of medieval history, so dives into what aspects of the game are historical vs. strictly mechanical are always welcome in my book.
RE: the subject of "Insular" Christianity in the game, it's worth noting that the devs have stated they aren't fully satisfied with current religious mechanics in CK3. There have already been some changes (perhaps most notably in the form of allowing multiple faiths to share a single spiritual head, so as to more accurately portray the Islamic world), and I wouldn't be surprised if we see a future religion-focused update that includes making the dynamic between the two Catholicisms a bit more nuanced.
i'm not irish, but i'm Scottish and speak Scottish gaelic(Gàidhlig), a language that roots off irish(Gaeilge). As a Gàidhlig speaker i think your pronouncations were brilliant.
Gàidhlig speaker woooo!
Okay. But how historically accurate it is that, one way or the other, Ireland always becomes one with Iceland?
One always seems to conquer the other.
(Even though Island is just a Duchy)
Pronunciation was actually pretty damn good. Not quite perfect, of course, but clearly researched and not just looking at the word and trying to use English phonics.
as an Irish person I can say this is a really great representation of my countries history, although it might have been better to describe the differences between mainland feudalism and pre Norman Irish Brehon law because the Irish was based a lot more in pre Christiaan Celtic customs and laws and was almost democratic in a way definitely look it up it's very interesting. over all though an-maith buachaill
I'm Kinda sad I can't play as Olaf the White like in CK2, Always found it more fun to unite Ireland as him rather than Ivar the Boneless. But oh well maybe one day I will come around and do that and form a Norse-Gaels Kingdom/Empire
There must be a mod for this, right? :D
@@historyinbits There is no mod in CK3 involving Olaf the White as far as I know, you can play is his widow Aud the Deep-Minded in Iceland however
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Ahh Pope Adrian IV...the result of sending my 10-eye assassin to Rome and taking out 23 Popes until my cardinal was finally elected (before dying from old next the following turn).
This video was excellent! It was really fascinating to see all the detail put into this little corner of the map. I think I want to do some more research of my own in a similar vein, particularly with Novgorod, as that was the first region I ever played as in CK3.
I have to admit I never played in Novgorod, but I think I will do soon!!
@@historyinbits definitely should. Its good fun. Maybe not the best start, but once youre knowledgable its quite enjoyable (if you can bear a fee viking invasions)
Eh, I think the only funky thing about Insular Christianity is that it often spreads and becomes popular elsewhere, and it's SUPER bizarre seeing an "insular" religion go mainstream in Continental Europe.
I want to let you know that Paradox has modified Insular Christianity in the “Fate of Iberia” as part of the free patch. The new Rite tenant allows a faith to have the Catholic Pope as their head of faith while having different doctrines. It does give the Catholic Pope a -10 opinion of characters of faiths with Rite.
Mozarabic Christianity which was the focus of the DLC was given a unique decision to either bind to Rome or break with Rome. I have not played as Irish since the update so I don’t know if they have a similar decision, but I hope they do.
I would also like to see your opinion on Irish Culture as represented in the free update that accompanied the Royal Court DLC.
As Ireland is a small part of my family history I am always curious to learn more.
Great video, and I do appreciate the huge effort made in the pronunciation.
I started in Wexford, to play as Leinster since Dublin is Norse. And I have to disagree that Insular is a net negative, polygamy is a huge boon in dynastic system of Ck3.
My favorite way to play ck3 is to go from being a backward wetlands Irish ruler to conquering Britannia. I stay out of the continent though, it's a nasty business.
Id have an easyer time ruling a medival kingdom than playing CK2. One requires knowlage of people and institutions other requires gaming knowlage and that games knowlage.
it was noob island in ck2, if you do 867 expecting a peaceful tall experience.. the vikings are going to give you a bad time.
Well that was weird, first actual footage of ireland (clocktower) in the clip is about 200 steps from my front door.
I swear we are not that small of a country.
Would be excited to see more videos such as this relating to what we see in CK3 and its accuracy, historical background etc.
Already working on it!
ireland ends to be an easy playgound once the north come over and over with their giant armies out of the blue :D at least for someone who doesn't know what he is doing... also they start fairly early to conquer ireland from england and scotland as well... so worst case your rain will be short if you don't have any clue :D I guess there are far easier starts
I think Paradox have been quite smart letting som Christian faiths share head of faith. It reflects how hard it was for the church to maintain a strikt adhesion to all it's doctrines in remote places far from Rome. I don't see these faiths as truly separate as they accepts the pope as head of faith.
Edit: sorry for the wall of text!
I'm not nearly as well informed on the subject as I'd like to be, but it seems a bit ridiculous in my mind that Insular Christianity can not only *convert* Catholic counties, but that it can spread beyond even Britain. I have a similar gripe with Mozarabic Christianity since I've seen too many games where a "heresy outbreak" converts France to the Mozarabic Rite which is just ridiculous. I honestly think is a bit of an outdated mechanic as religious traditions counter to the mainstream Catholic Church evolved many times as a response to perceived excesses on the part of Rome like the Waldensians or the Lollards or the Fracticelli back in CK2, and the game mechanics more or less treat them as diseases that just pop up every once in a while - nevermind the fact the Mozarabic Rite isn't really a heresy and is a rite within the Catholic Church with a rich history that is *still* celebrated (I believe a few years ago a Mozarabic Mass was celebrated in Rome!). Personally I think religious mechanics need a major overhaul even after the addition of "rites"- perhaps a score keeping track religious relations between two Christian faiths, allowing for "unions" so long as they are compatible in terms of tenets? It would perhaps allow for the 867 start to have a "united" Eastern and Western Christianity and provide a compromise, as the Great Schism would still happen, and indeed a motivated player might wish to take advantage of the autonomous state of the Irish Church and formally break it from Rome. Could allow for interesting roleplay, I think.
@maniacalinc has done a lot of videos on Ireland's portrayal in Paradox games including a detailed look at Murchad which I'll link here.
th-cam.com/video/tX6W0H9R7yc/w-d-xo.html
Just checked it out! Very very cool stuff. Thank you for sharing!
I don’t think you acknowledged it so I’ll mention it, The pope now leads the Insular faith to make it a bit better, I believe you need the royal court DLC though
Thank you very much for your input! :)
Great video!
Thank you! :)
Legit if you're a noob you either play that tutorial thing or Irish dukes 😂
A bit late to the party, but recommend checking out the Ireland mod
I played in Ireland bc my family descend from mayo try to bring my family name back in ck3 is a blast
Honestly I can't remember what my first game of CK3 was like, I just phased that out of my mind lol
I guess that happens, it is hard in the beginning :D
I always start in Ireland. I love working my way up from Desmond, uniting the Irish and then taking out the norse populations. Then I slowly work my way through Wales and Cornwall. My favourite way to completely taking over Brittania 😊😊❤❤
Niice, thanks for sharing 😊
Norse Populations: -_-
@@Zogerpogger LOL
i was so shocked when you said the irish words you literally gained an irish accent to say munster ahahaha
The second he called Irish Gaelic I realised this video would be tough to sit through
This might be a stretch but is your intro the Seikilos song? The 8-bit remix throws it off a bit but it sounds just like it. Great video by the way!
Yes it is Seikilos! Kudos for recognising it!
The subtitles when you try to pronounce things is brilliant 😂
You really could make a series using CK3 to explore different historical kingdoms. Great video
Thank you for the compliment, more videos are on the way :)
I'm just discovered your channel and I already know that is going to be one of my favorites! Keep doing this man is awsome!
Thank you so much, we really appreciate the positive feedback!
Mate it would be nice if you do this kind of vids in Spanish, nice vid!!
We’re working on a video on medieval Spain in CK3. Unfortunately speaking English though :D
I came into CK2 prepared, having watched who knows how many tutorials, so I hopped directly into Muslim Spain. Started as Count of Garnatah and fucked around from there. My first four CK2 campaigns were all from that same start, cuz I’m an Andalusia fanboy
I had a super-fun run with the irish. Started by consolidating the island, and declaring the high-kingdom. Then my next ruler establihed a new religion, based on the mad visions he recieved in his holy trance. And slowly the rest of the irish people saw the light, and decided to follow in the footsteps of st. eochad. The Pope, being the pope, was not amused that we had completely left the catholic fold. A huge crusade ensued, which I lost. The enitre island kingdom was usurped by french and english crusaders, and my dynasty were decimated. I ended with only one county in the hebrides, and only 6 living members of my family. I was about to rage-quit, but then I though, this is what makes ck3 fun; to roll with your losses and try even harder. So the rest of the game I spent reclaiing the island bit by bit, and not only for my own dynasty, but I did everything in my power to conquer and reinstate the old irish noble-families in their respective ancestral duchys. The satisfaction when the usurper french king was secured in my dungeon was real! (Albeit, I did end up converting to catholisism, just to ensure it would not get taken away from me again. I guess the pope won in any case) Only a small county in the hills of meath remained true to the raving visions of st. eochad who had brought this misfortune upon the land in the first place.
Haha sounds amaazing!!
Sounds like good craic
800 hundred years! *slams table*
I always wondered if we unified early, Ireland didn't become a kingdom until 18 June 1542, and that Kingdom was a client state of the Kingdom of England from its inception until 1 May 1707 when the Kingdoms of England and Scotland merged to Great Britain until 1 January 1801 was when Great Britain and the Kingdom of Ireland merged to create the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland.
Ireland seems fine from what you've said. Anatolia is honestly one of the biggest historical inaccuracies in terms of culture, in the game. There's just a sea of Greek rather than it being separated into Greek which occupies mainland Greece and the coasts, Cappadocian which occupies the middle of Anatolia and is a hybrid culture, Pontic which occupies areas of the Black sea coast of Anatolia and is a hybrid culture between Greek and Persian and lastly Italiot which exists mainly in southern Italy and Sicily. It's weird that Paradox chose to split every other previously monolithic culture other than Greek.
You are right, that massive Greek culture extension is indeed odd. Thank you for sharing!
In every game, I always start off with a low ranking, nobody character, who slowly rises through the ranks through Machiavellian scheming, opportunities, battles, good relations with the lords..etc
It's just more satisfying and relateable, instead of starting off immediately as a king or emperor.
Brilliant work, thanks for the video and very good effort on all the pronunciations too.
You clearly put a lot of effort into this and when I spotted your number of subscribers I was shocked, really solid start to your channel and wishing you the very best of luck in growing it
Thank you so much for the kind words, they are really appreciated! We hope to have you around for future videos as well :)
I think in recent updates having insular have the pope as head of faith helps a lot
I agree
In 1066, I started out with Petty King Murchad of Munster, and eventually unified the High Kingdom of Ireland.
Now, it is 1390, the Briain dynasty unified Britannia after the conquests of Scotland, Wales, and England. Under the watchful eyes of the Irish Emperors, the realm claims land from the frosty volcanic wastes of Iceland, to the barren deserts of Egypt and the Holy Land. The Irish persisted, even as the Mongols waited across the English Channel whilst they pillaged Europe for all it was worth, and eventually disintegrated.
House Briain has endured wars, infighting, foreign invasions, uprisings, plagues, and even put all of Christendom's holy sites under it's watch to mend the Schisms and evangelize the Levant and Egypt to the one true faith, doing what numerous crusades could not and establishing its glory across the world.
Emperor Donnúcan 'The Justicar' has nearly 70,000 troops to his name and was last seen, at the age of 51, leading his armies in carving out a kingdom in Jerusalem for his kinsmen to rule and convert. Not bad for the tutorial start.
I started my CK3 career in the EK2 mod, with the Empire of Elsweyr
There were so many factions against me, I had no idea what I was doing and after murdering 26 characters I was finally murdered myself
Then i tried out vanilla in Iceland and it was very fun, I formed my own empire after the Danelaw and England weakened eachother and then had a crusade take England back from me and then somehow corrupted my save. Naturally, the Pope was sadistic so it clearly decided to break the save to rub my loss in
You got insular christianity wrong. When they added cultural traditions they replaced Ireland's religion with monogamous and made the culture polygamous. Which is probably more accurate.
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Exactly how English people see Irish people. Bravo.
"I don't want to be seen as anti-Irish."
It is okay. Everyone who is Germanic hates Celtic men. Not Celtic People. We don't hate the women. Women are just women. They just follow what is expected of them, but Celtic Men are Beta Men. I mean it is in terms of authentic observation. And as much as it was possible to interpret Ireland's centralizations, I have to disagree. Name me one group of Celts who actually sought unification of his entire realm? You do have people claiming to be King of Wales or actually King of the Britons, but those people are actually King of multiple different realms like Powys that they didn't unify into one. Wales wasn't unified until the English took it.
Celts aren't conquerors. They (the men) are raiders based on spite and they are concentrators. They make good housekeepers and slaves and that is about it. One made a decent general in Napoleon's army, but his lack of ambition made him just good for being a staff sargeant, which he should had stayed as since being a really good general requires taking risks like Julius Caesar, Aurelian, Majorian, and Basil the Bulgar Slayer. Italians and Greeks are likely to be Alpha along with the English and other Germanic People, but Celts are Beta.
I did Gaelic Studies at University (albeit focussing on Scotland rather than Ireland), and you honestly don't do a bad job of the pronunciations, doubly so for someone with no other exposure to the language. Really refreshing and a far cry from the absolute butcherings I'm used to from much of elsewhere in the CK/Paradox TH-cam scene. Obair dhiongalta, cum ort!
My career as an incestuous murdering psychopath began in Wales rather than Ireland... less "Noob island" and more "Tryhard region"! The effort to unify and defend Cymru from the starting point of Gwynedd (playing a mid-lifecycle copy of CK2) was brutal and required several fresh tries and more than a little scumming to learn where I was going wrong and what to do better, but I think I came out of it more properly educated about how to survive and eventually thrive.
Aside from that, I immediately recognised that it would be easier to form a Celtic Empire of Brittania (or as I renamed it, "Supreme Principality of Prydain") if I prevented England from ever being a thing in the first place, using the wealth and resources stolen from the Britons to incorporate the Pictish/Gallic north and THEN conquer Eire in its entirety rather than trying to take mainland Great Britain as an Ard-Ri.
Scotland is a fuck to deal with, and even a partially unified England can be straight-out impossible if you let them start to snowball.
I started as a tiny county in Africa. Realm devide scared me half to death, but after the third time it happened, I finally figured out what was happening, but had no idea how to stop it. After killing serveral generations worth of siblings and vassals to keep my domain, I was finally removed from power shortly after I establised the Empire Of Guinea. What brought me down, you ask? War? Rebellion? No. I just didn't know what matrilineal marraige meant. So my son was not from my dynasty.
Insular is not completely separate. Catholics like you still. I think it great and closer to accurate the way it’s portrayed in ck3.
My favorite memory of Ireland in CK3 is when I first started playing and ended up with an Irish Brittania, with every ruler for the past 100+ years being Brian mac Brian
Craggy Island SHOULD be the holy site for Irish Christianity.
Funnily enough I played my first ck3 game as a small norse count. The larger nations never really appealed to me.
Ireland is a tutorial island. I played it after I started to play as Litovoi the count of Succeava and vassal of Izaislav Rurkid. My neighboring pechengs were looting me in 1.0 and Izaislav was in mass revolution. Eventually I defeated them even with 3 sinful personalities. And took land in moldova. Then I died and game over cause my son was of Rurkid dinasty. I restarted it several times and one time I managed to create duchy of bukovina and help my liege play wars and profit from them.
And lastly I revolted in another playthroug and made Kingdom of Moldova. It was a better way of learning than being in an island and play 50 years then afk 400.
Seeing how well informed your videos are, I would like to know what starting date (and why) you would like to see being added to ck3 ?
Any intriguing kingdom / potential characters you thinks would made adding another starting date relevant.
Thanks 👍
Paradox corrected the ruler of 1066 Munster, and you can now change a historicity setting about it
You're gonna be big in the future, I can already tell. GREAT content.
Thank you, really appreciated :)
I don't play crusader kings..3, I play Hello Kitty Island Adventure
Nice video and all, but I need to bring attention to something far more important.
You have Edge Scrolling enabled.
What kind of maniac subjects themselves to that annoyance?
Never played in ireland in ck3. Would be a fun multiplayer challenge for everyone to be a different irish lord and try to unite ireland under ones own rule. Also idk if its just me but i think that another good ”noob” start for ck3 is as a duke in the hre since theres alot of opportunities naturally progress and become the ruler of the hre and expand your empire. Also the elections are quite fun for me to manipulate the results of in my favor
Sorry but you are talking about the wrong period because Ireland in 867 is WAAAAAY crazier.
Not history, but playing in West Africa is a good place for learning how tribal systems work, although if you don’t start conquering immediately you are going to have a hard time.
I still wish Paradox had rewritten Republics and removed the hard coding in CKII before doing CKIII
I had multiple campaigns in Ireland in CK2. I conquered the entire island and even became Holy Roman Emperor, taking Iceland, parts of Scotland...it was a weird game. This video brought back memories.
You didn't mention Dal Fiatach at all. How could this be a realistic overview when you ignore the most historically significant rulers in all of Ireland?
This was so good, itd be cool if you also did something similar for other factions too and make a series out of it. Keep up the good work
Thank you very much for the good feedback!
personally, i think using Ethiopia as noob island (mountain?) is equally valid, and it has some diversity in the region that can teach you about getting holywared and ruled over by foreigners
with the upcoming landless DLC coming later this year it would be a really interesting(and I assume difficult) start to paly as the guy at 3:57 and try to get the kingdom of Ireland before your death
back in ck2, i actually started in scotland. scotland was the only playable tribe kingdom since it was the only cristian tribe and was a whoal kingdom, i prefer playing as tribal over feudal
It should be noted that Insular Christianity now have the Pope as their head of faith.
Hey one thing about the Irish "not being catholic" they now in game have the 'rite' tenant to their version of christianity. Which allows a new faith to keep their old head of faith. So they still recognize the pope as leader of christianity, but their indivdual tenants are different.
For some reason my twisted brain prevents me from playing as people who did well in the time period. I’ve never played as england or France in vic and hre or France in ck, but I always play as France in hoi4