Fractional Pedaling - What Does It Mean & How Do I Utilize It For Special Effects In My Performance?

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  • @ST52655
    @ST52655 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

    When I was selling my beloved Yamaha studio grand piano, a woman who had come to look at it asked me if she could play it. Of course I said yes because I had owned the piano from the time it was brand new (for 45 years) and had kept it in excellent condition. She pedaled badly, proceeded to tell me there was something wrong with the pedals, and decided not to buy it. The next person to look at it was a piano teacher who had actually been searching for the exact piano I was selling. He played it, the pedals made absolutely no noise (because like me, he knew how to pedal), and he bought it on the spot. He paid my asking price, no questions asked, and later sent me some pictures of his young students playing it. ❤ Knowing that my piano went to a person who would truly use, enjoy and care for it made me feel so much better about having to sell it. The piano was a gift from my father on my 16th birthday, so it had a lot of sentimental value. Anyway, please keep teaching people how to use the pedals, because it does matter. Thanks 😊

  • @ayyboi4298
    @ayyboi4298 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    For fellow pianist your type of videos and teachings really help one another!

  • @PianoMan333
    @PianoMan333 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I really like that you're often covering these small, detailed "niche" topics. Thanks for that!

  • @lvb1770
    @lvb1770 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Fractional pedaling in Chopin's Op.10 No.1 etude changed everything for me. Flutter pedaling is also useful. As Vlado said, "Pedal with your ears not your feet. He studied with Ravel.

    • @ST52655
      @ST52655 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

      💯

  • @melodytsai7133
    @melodytsai7133 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Thanks for all your useful tips.I really like this topic and I hope you can do another record that we can see clearly.
    What I mean is to set the different camera view to see how "Pedal " and "Damper " lift works together. And how these effect the sound.
    Thanks for your wonderful heart to share.

  • @Bronwyn031
    @Bronwyn031 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Of the last 5 or 6 videos I've tried to watch on Half Pedaling YOU are the only one who explained it QUICK, CONCISE and with examples. 🦄💖 And I subscribed too 😊

  • @magicalmysterypiano8144
    @magicalmysterypiano8144 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have never thought over how I use the pedal, I do it automatically...but after this video I will pay more attention to how I do it. Pedaling is actually is a rather important element in piano playing, it can make the playing beautiful or to spoil it. Was very useful, Thank you, Josh!

  • @rrickymaa
    @rrickymaa 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Oh love sorrow!! I always wanted you to play this piece with your immaculate technique! I’d love I hear it !

  • @bourdour
    @bourdour 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thank you for sharing. Im working on scalic passages in Chopin's Ballade 1 and this is helpful

  • @tenonakin9237
    @tenonakin9237 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I use Formula One racing shoes for piano-pedaling.

  • @paytonspiegel
    @paytonspiegel 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Can't wait for that liebesleid. You said it was this summer your gonna be playing that?

  • @cyba9774
    @cyba9774 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is really helpful. I need to improve my pedaling

  • @kcuehto
    @kcuehto 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Your videos are all great, but what I am really hoping for is to see you on "Living the Classical Life", since you have said you are friends with Zsolt Bognar. I would love to learn more of you as a person.

    • @musicfan3609
      @musicfan3609 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      YES PLEASE!!!

    • @JoanKSX
      @JoanKSX 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Like vlog?
      Great =D

  • @kowalskianalysis1710
    @kowalskianalysis1710 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Very helpful! Just finished learning Debussy's arabesque and there is a section in the middle and a different one at the end that I struggle to keep between muddy and staccato. I will try this technique

  • @TheNetzspannung
    @TheNetzspannung 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Clear, concise and well-meaning. Excellent explanation.

  • @lastdreamofhome
    @lastdreamofhome 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    This is really useful - I was trying out Ravel's Ondine for the first time today so it was a surprise when you used it as the example! Really enjoying your videos! :)

  • @sasoonhaikazian4093
    @sasoonhaikazian4093 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I actually just discovered this two days ago when I was practicing on my own piano but great vid!

  • @mabdub
    @mabdub 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    The mechanical aspect of pedal connections on acoustic upright pianos is different than on grand pianos so fractional or flutter pedaling on some upright pianos isn't always possible. Flutter pedaling using electric keyboards is also often not possible. Of course, there are exceptions for both acoustic uprights and electric or digital pianos. Clearly, the advantages of having a grand piano to practice on and experiment with are significant.

  • @aquilazyy1125
    @aquilazyy1125 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    As an amateur pianist I stumbled upon this technique and it really created some wonderful effects, but I always have thought it’s just a unorthodox trick that shouldn’t be used until I see this video. Thank you!

  • @Jules-ce3hs
    @Jules-ce3hs 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Hello Josh, thanks for this video. It would be interesting to have a video on the soft pedal!!

  • @cggage
    @cggage ปีที่แล้ว

    Very helpful! I had always wondered what was meant by this. You explained it very well!

  • @petermcmurray2807
    @petermcmurray2807 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    An Excellent description. I only heard of half pedalling this week and can see now how it can help in my broken chord and arpeggio practice. Thank you

  • @peterthomas3405
    @peterthomas3405 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    What an excellent demonstration and plainly spoken explanation of a subject many would shroud in mystery. Thank you, Josh!

  • @jakobwk4474
    @jakobwk4474 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The ball of the foot, in other words: the area just behind the toes.Organists are taught to use the ball of the foot.

  • @carmenl9280
    @carmenl9280 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks Josh. This is really helpful. Some pianists consider pedaling a minor detail, but it can really ruin a piece if it is not used correctly. It would be great if you could provide some guidance about how to use pedal in Mozart, or Bach.

  • @shotglassanhero
    @shotglassanhero 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video, I never knew of this concept and was taught that I should always use full pedal when playing. Maybe I haven’t played a piece with fractional pedaling yet...

  • @katam6471
    @katam6471 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This was really helpful. Thanks a lot!

  • @allmyinterests5139
    @allmyinterests5139 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I just want you to know: Thank you so much for everything!

  • @MF-hf2re
    @MF-hf2re 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That's a gorgeous thumbnail and an even better video! Very helpful as always

  • @zachsaw78
    @zachsaw78 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wow! Didn't even know this is a thing! As always, you're an amazing teacher!

  • @frazzledude
    @frazzledude 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It should be pointed out that fractional pedaling only works if the felt in the piano’s dampers is not packed down and hard. Many serious piano owners will have their technician tune their piano, regulate the action, and voice the hammers but not do anything to the hard packed dampers. You should also mention that by using the sostenuto pedal in combination with the damper pedal it is possible to get two different gradations of sustain at the same time. By using both pedals at the same time it is possible to get some very interesting effects on a piano.

    • @JoanKSX
      @JoanKSX 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks for sharing =O

    • @ST52655
      @ST52655 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      💯

  • @kathysaleeba3397
    @kathysaleeba3397 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you. New piano student. I was wondering about fractional pedaling vs. full pest. I'm not quite ready for a lot of pedal use yet but it does answer my question. Enjoy your videos.

  • @MaxRiley
    @MaxRiley 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    thank you Josh. you remind me of the actor in "Novecento"

  • @anoNEMOs
    @anoNEMOs 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I've been using this at the end of one piece and didn't even know it has a name.
    And what is more interesting, I do it on an electric piano (clavinova)

  • @pedrohenricograzziotinport8217
    @pedrohenricograzziotinport8217 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video!! You're amazing Josh

  • @ThePianoPutterer
    @ThePianoPutterer 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very interesting concept I've never heard verbalized before. You helped me realize it's something I've always done instinctually. Thank you!

    • @ST52655
      @ST52655 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Same with me

  • @eddygonzalez2328
    @eddygonzalez2328 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I would like to say that wearing shoes when using the pedal doesn't affect much what part of the foot you use. I'm always wearing shoes and it really doesn't matter what I'm doing with my toes.😂. Joke aside, I never press the pedal all the way down, more like half pedals and I tend to slightly press the una corda at the same time.I find that it gives me a clean sound without those overtones.

  • @Starritt_Piano
    @Starritt_Piano 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I’m interested to hear any thoughts from pianists … do you think of the sustain pedal as an expression pedal as well in which you press it down to certain levels to get different harmonic resonances and layerings? Leon Fleischer apparently said you can get 24 different tonal shadings from the sustain pedal-I was amazed!!!

  • @downpatmusic
    @downpatmusic 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think it was Debussy who said the magic is in the pedal. Or another way to think about it, the reverb amount is controlling the pedal.

  • @RaptorT1V
    @RaptorT1V ปีที่แล้ว

    5:33 what is the name of piece? What was the name of the piece you played? ♪ I didn't hear it ♪

  • @7HPDH
    @7HPDH 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I’d recommend putting something about an inch high under the pedal so you’ll have an easier time finding the sweet spot (for learning purposes)

    • @JoanKSX
      @JoanKSX 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      But how? Like putting an inch cushion?

    • @7HPDH
      @7HPDH 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@JoanKSX a small hardcover book could work. I have an external hard drive that happens to be the right size

    • @JoanKSX
      @JoanKSX 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@7HPDH Oh, thank you! =D

  • @BabyMeows
    @BabyMeows 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you for the great video! I hope the camera is pointed to your foot instead.

  • @audybee9610
    @audybee9610 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Would have loved to see your foot on the pedal. I understand. It's about hearing the sounds produced.

    • @holytaco.
      @holytaco. 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yes, I think it would help. Odd, since if I remember correctly he usually has a pedal view.

  • @LASoundCrafter
    @LASoundCrafter 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Many pianos can’t do it, or elicit some ugly overtones - your excellent Steinway D was OK, your technician probably helped shape and seated the dampers. I use it in, your example, Ravel’s Gaspard de la nuit, but I used it in the Toccata in Le Tombeau de Couperin - the piece is percussive, but too dry with no pedal on all those repeated notes and too heavy with full pedal. Ravel and Debussy are filled with half pedal.

    • @JoanKSX
      @JoanKSX 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Wow thanks for sharing the info =O

  • @ollyhudson9931
    @ollyhudson9931 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hi there Josh, which composer do you mention & what piece are you playing @ 2:56 please? Pleasespleaseithankyouiloveyoubye😁🎶✌️

    • @dyanicus2156
      @dyanicus2156 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Maurice Ravel - Gaspard de la nuit, I: Ondine

    • @JamesZ32100
      @JamesZ32100 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      It's Ravel's Ondine

    • @ollyhudson9931
      @ollyhudson9931 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hey, thanks guys. 😁✌️

  • @cisium1184
    @cisium1184 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Half-pedal is a bit like the tension point on a clutch pedal.

  • @tpiano1165
    @tpiano1165 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    And some people say piano is all about the fingers...

    • @JoanKSX
      @JoanKSX 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      No. I personally thinks the hardest part of the piano aren't hands together, jumping octaves/notes, polyrhythms, poly-phrasing but pedaling...
      I really suck in the pedaling >.

  • @crehenge2386
    @crehenge2386 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    what about the other 2pedals?

  • @rogerharrison8195
    @rogerharrison8195 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi, I haven’t found any advice on how to keep my arms, hands, and ELBOWS completely parallel or at least in line. But I find this impossible as my hands come within closer to my body. Somehow my elbow needs pulling in. I end up splaying my wrists to get the notes for my fingers to be properly in the keys. Any advice

  • @rrickymaa
    @rrickymaa 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Video was great of course but when I’m in my phone the audio of the keys it sounds like it’s like distorted or feels like it’s too loud like it’s too close to the mic

  • @providief
    @providief 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    do you play in socks for the concert?

  • @metteholm4833
    @metteholm4833 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ah! The grand, I have access to, is SQUEAKY and noisy... perhaps because of my abrupt "toe-handling" Lets see, if I can do it less squeaky-noisy now.

  • @JoanKSX
    @JoanKSX 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    0:52 - 0:58 I don't hear anything, the noise made by only toe pressing pedal...

  • @manueladevilliers5301
    @manueladevilliers5301 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    😁