Check out the SeattleVoiceLab.com This video was inspired by a reddit user who found much of the common language and techniques to be a bit too confusing. #transvoice
You know... we went to high school together. I was a grade or two ahead of you, we never really talked but we were both in photo club. I'm so incredibly happy to see the changes that you've made. I'm just starting my transition journey myself.
Also, can attest ya'll - my brain is smooth as a marble (it even has the little color spiral in it!) and Claire's been able to lead me to a sound I'm becoming quite happy with! :D
I love this.These techniques can be used by anyone wanting to raise their voice to a higher pitch. Especially if you've spoken in a passive tone most of your life and now have to articulate your ideas publicly. Speaking in an energetic tone high or low improves your speech. Thanks again.
Wow! I didn't really get it before but this simplified it in a way that I got a pretty satisfactory voice almost instantly. Incredible work you're doing ❤️
Love this! I'm going to practice (I'm cis but I want voice work!) when I stretched my larynxed it was also tempting to gag a bit, but like not the worse good practice.
Some one said to do a Marvin the Martian impression and then raise your pitch, I like how goofy of an exercise it is and it helps me. Just thought id share
2:04 I bring my larynx up so my resonance (?) seems like it just about makes it into the androgynous range, and I try to push my pitch a little higher. Something happens and my voice cracks before being feminine, and if I try to go further it goes into falsetto. I either sound like Morty below the crack, or like the serving 'lady' in the Monty Python "spam" sketch above it >.< Sorry if none of that makes sense, been following transvoice's stuff and trying to make sense of the terminology. Mid 40's cis male, wanting to sometimes present as female.
I think the problem with trying to do quick tutorials like this is that the person giving them always has years of experience that they're trying to condense into something accessible. It just doesn't work because the person giving the lesson doesn't *really* know how they got there, they just found what worked and kept doing it. That's why coaching and/or obsessive practice end up being more useful, because you actually workshop the voice while ignoring the technical stuff.
I'm finding it impossible to change my voice with training. As an older individual transitioning, I've had decades of male voice disorder. I'm seriously thinking about vocal surgery, but would love to not need it done. I've got so much money going out fixing the flawed exterior, I'd rather find someone who could help me achieve my vocal situation without involvement from a surgical team.
I feel and understand your pain and I'm positive you can alter your voice with enough practice and good instruction. In my opinion surgery should be used as the last option. And remember voice therapy is needed even with surgery. Our journey of life is truly of both body and mind. We think we know our bodies, but nope. There's SO much room to learn to use our bodies how we wish (think of an athlete, or a musician and the massive effort to get there). Learning to control the instrument of voice is very empowering, but it does remind me of learning to play any other instrument (aka we must practice a sh*t ton before getting any good and before we want anyone to hear us play, it requires determination etc.). You CAN do things you currently think are impossible. I know so because I did it, and I ain't nothin special, so you can for sure do it too! Best wishes on your journey. 😁
I guess that at some point you have to be realistic. Many people say that these videos are "helpful" but how many managed to really change their voice and if it is the case, how many years of practice did they need?... (Just to watch these videos and try to figure what they are talking about could take a considerable amount of time...) You may practice guitar as much as you want but let's not people think that everybody can become a Jimmy Page.
Omg, a video about the larynx that isn't little dog or whisper siren! I'll have to try these tips later and see, as I am having the hardest time raising my larynx...
It's really kind of interesting to me how much the 2nd option for the larynx stuff doesn't make sense to me (the tongue one kind of does, but I'm tongue-tied soo..). Not that I don't understand in a literal sense what the idea is, but that I find myself at a loss at the very beginning on trying to implement the idea "pretend to choke". Makes me wonder if it's something to do with me being autistic and having very poor body awareness. Brains are fascinating.
No worries! Really its about sound. So, on the same pitch lets say G3 - you can find it on google - try to make a dark sound and then a bright sound. Try saying the days of the week and make one sound dark and one sound bright. The ear is the first thing to train. Be sure to record!
I've got a question. When i make a feminin Voice i have the problem that it sounds very fake for me cause i heard a long time in my life a very deep voice. And cause of that tahtvit sounds fake for me it scarred me that it sounds fake for everyone. So my question is how do you normalize this voice for you
Record yourself often and practice a lot! You'll eventually be able to hear your voice objectively and start to work on the nuances. Practice, practice, practice
@@seattlevoicelab Okay thanks I appreciate the response! I did have a follow-up question but if you're too busy I understand. Just to clarify it is NOT more physically straining on you to speak feminine? I just always assumed physically speaking differently than what we "naturally" speak, aka just what we're more used to at the time, could potentially be more physically demanding (E.G. voice actors can sometimes have more physically demanding voices). I'll even occasionally try and do different accents or higher pitched voices and it seems to be more physically difficult but maybe I'm not doing it correctly (I'm not a professional by any means). You seem quite knowledgeable on voice-stuff so that's why I'm asking that's all. Thanks again. P.S. I should really clarify here we're presuming, before transitioning, you used to talk more masculine. That is why I'm asking if it takes more (physical) strain to talk the way you talk now. I understand your feminine voice, your "everyday" voice is what you prefer and feel better with, this is fine, but I just wanted to clarify if it is physically more straining or not. Excluding anything mental aside purely talking only the physical.
1 on 1 would probably be best. We teach! That's our job :) If you have questions or are confused it's our job to help you! Whether it's with us or with another company you should definitely consider 1on1 before giving up. You can do it!
As you're learning the exercise, it's a good indicator you're doing it right! Now that you've got the technique down, search for balance by increasing volume and slightly reducing airflow. Most importantly, play with your voice though!
I transitioned in 2008 hired a voice professional for 7 months once a week. I still practice. Still I can't seem to get it right. For everyone else my voice is fine. But I'm still being picky. It don't sound as I want it. Maybe one day I finally say f it and move on. But it's like that damn itch! I want to scratch the itch😂
Well, fundamentally you're a person that isn't able to accept yourself for what you are, so it is hardly a surprise that you can't accept your voice for how it is.
Practice , practice , practice.I have been doing it for a year now. People who really don't know me (call center, store, even many Indian job callers (Usually they simply recognize by distinct name as India has a clear cut name between male and female by birth) . They many a times say mam to me that cannot access your Gender info (BTW, it should be locked down) greet me with mam .. How can I help you. But there are few who would know but will not sir me . But we all know there are A.H every were..
This. It's so fucking frustrating, how the hell am I suposed to know what an alevolar ridge is? Or what fucking twang or resonance is? I'm seriously done with voice training, it's always the same bullshit.
do your own research on it i guess? read and learn about all the common terms and then come back to these videos or just keep looking for a long series of videos that explain things in simpler terms. majority of people find this video helpful based off the comments, sorry you don’t, but that doesn’t mean it doesn’t work. you just have to put in that little bit of effort on your end. don’t just click on a video and tap out when they throw words at you that you don’t understand. learn the words. yes, it’s frustrating, it’s daunting, but you’re never going to get anywhere if you need someone to hold your hand the whole way.
@@mimirrae If you are going to make a tutorial video and entitle it 'For dummies' and advert it as easy to understand and then not provide a glossary of the terms you will be using then what is the point of doing it? Unless you don't want people to understand.
@@gottderneuenwelt yes but she demonstrated and 99.99% of the comments are people who found it easy and helpful. that’s my point. if you don’t find it helpful then find a different video or research the stuff you find confusing and read about it on your own.
@@mimirrae Sure but you will find comments like these in every voice tutorial video. All I am saying is that you can't entitle the video for dummies and not give at least a ten second explanation of what you are saying.
"Bring the root of your tongue as close to...." I have no idea how the root of the tongue could be brought anywhere. I see exercices for the dentist's chair but no one would articulate words and sentences with the mouth wide open like that. There is some mysterious gap from these sounds to a conversation. Honestly, I have watched videos for years and have never found an explanation that was clear to me.
I think she means that you should start introducing some natural speech patterns (pauses, changes in pitch, emphasis on certain syllables, etc) into the monotone robotic voice.
Ha! no, I prefer people sponsor other students through our scholarship program. If you want to sponsor someone, would you email me through our contact form at seattlevoicelab.com
god. i hate when people say "raise your larynx :)" like it means anything to anyone. its amazing to see you actually explain it succinctly
You know... we went to high school together. I was a grade or two ahead of you, we never really talked but we were both in photo club. I'm so incredibly happy to see the changes that you've made. I'm just starting my transition journey myself.
no one cares
@@sigma3406 totally rude
@@halikefire 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@sigma3406 No one cares that YOU don't care, a-hole!
I care!
Also, can attest ya'll - my brain is smooth as a marble (it even has the little color spiral in it!) and Claire's been able to lead me to a sound I'm becoming quite happy with! :D
I spent 3 years trying to work on mine, and got it in 20 minutes with this video
wtf really???????
@@Mollys2412 yeah
@@Mollys2412 YEAH
I love this.These techniques can be used by anyone wanting to raise their voice to a higher pitch. Especially if you've spoken in a passive tone most of your life and now have to articulate your ideas publicly. Speaking in an energetic tone high or low improves your speech. Thanks again.
Wow! I didn't really get it before but this simplified it in a way that I got a pretty satisfactory voice almost instantly. Incredible work you're doing ❤️
This is stressing me out so much. Every little steps of this feels like I'll never get there and just feel like giving up...
@@abbycyrus1981 you should be ashamed of yourself, trying to scam trans women like this :(
Yeah I feel that too 😔
Out of all the videos ive seen for this, this is the only one which has helped me put all the pieces together. Thank you
Love this! I'm going to practice (I'm cis but I want voice work!) when I stretched my larynxed it was also tempting to gag a bit, but like not the worse good practice.
Shouldn’t be gagging… that’s a sign the exercise isn’t working.…. There are other teachers out there that are much more experienced in the field.
As someone who already knew how to control their pharynx this video helped a lot 😭
Some one said to do a Marvin the Martian impression and then raise your pitch, I like how goofy of an exercise it is and it helps me. Just thought id share
2:04 I bring my larynx up so my resonance (?) seems like it just about makes it into the androgynous range, and I try to push my pitch a little higher. Something happens and my voice cracks before being feminine, and if I try to go further it goes into falsetto. I either sound like Morty below the crack, or like the serving 'lady' in the Monty Python "spam" sketch above it >.< Sorry if none of that makes sense, been following transvoice's stuff and trying to make sense of the terminology. Mid 40's cis male, wanting to sometimes present as female.
Deceiver.
I have not seen you in over a year! So glad to see you doing voice training!
Thank you for the video and keeping it short and simple
Why was this even in my recommendation, but still being able to control you’re voice like that is just cool
wow i cannot thank you enough. I finished the video and got chills with how i sounded. thank you!!!!!
Your tips are so easy to follow and help already given ahat ive already learned with a previous voice coach experience. Thank youuu❤❤❤🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏
Aaaa this helps so much!! I kinda got most of it down within like 10 minutes, it’s not too hard and the improved feels almost instant!
Not trans but these videos are so interesting. Vocal science is amazing!
this is what our future Robots for 2038 sound like lol
Amazing video! Thank you thank you! 😊
I think the problem with trying to do quick tutorials like this is that the person giving them always has years of experience that they're trying to condense into something accessible. It just doesn't work because the person giving the lesson doesn't *really* know how they got there, they just found what worked and kept doing it. That's why coaching and/or obsessive practice end up being more useful, because you actually workshop the voice while ignoring the technical stuff.
I had to do the coughing step while plugging my nose to not confuse lyrnix with nasality
This actually worked amazingly!
Wow,super helpful.
And you are beautiful and awesome teacher❤
2:02 "I'm spongebob!"
No, this is Patrick!
I'm finding it impossible to change my voice with training.
As an older individual transitioning, I've had decades of male voice disorder. I'm seriously thinking about vocal surgery, but would love to not need it done. I've got so much money going out fixing the flawed exterior, I'd rather find someone who could help me achieve my vocal situation without involvement from a surgical team.
@Milton Billings trust me, if you practice practice practice you CAN do it. Stay strong and don’t give up! (;
I feel and understand your pain and I'm positive you can alter your voice with enough practice and good instruction. In my opinion surgery should be used as the last option. And remember voice therapy is needed even with surgery. Our journey of life is truly of both body and mind. We think we know our bodies, but nope. There's SO much room to learn to use our bodies how we wish (think of an athlete, or a musician and the massive effort to get there). Learning to control the instrument of voice is very empowering, but it does remind me of learning to play any other instrument (aka we must practice a sh*t ton before getting any good and before we want anyone to hear us play, it requires determination etc.). You CAN do things you currently think are impossible. I know so because I did it, and I ain't nothin special, so you can for sure do it too! Best wishes on your journey. 😁
Same here, It seems impossible for me. I feel helpless.
@@goysb4jays566
I guess that at some point you have to be realistic. Many people say that these videos are "helpful" but how many managed to really change their voice and if it is the case, how many years of practice did they need?... (Just to watch these videos and try to figure what they are talking about could take a considerable amount of time...)
You may practice guitar as much as you want but let's not people think that everybody can become a Jimmy Page.
Omg, a video about the larynx that isn't little dog or whisper siren! I'll have to try these tips later and see, as I am having the hardest time raising my larynx...
Thank you for this helpful information
Love these tips!
Waw. Just amazing. Thank you so much.
omg thx so much ill try these tricks out ❤
Is there a way to do any of this without raising the larynx?
How do i add air flow?
This is excellent teaching
i, erm tried,,,, something was there but i definitly didnt do the thing right. what're some common mistakes that're made when trying this?????
I have sat here for so long and tried to follow guides like these, and I haven’t gotten shit out of it, I which I could have a pretty voice
this is amazing
Make sure you don't have a cold or respitory issues when you do this. Put myself into a coughing fit.
I tried , but I keep making sounds like Will Ramos
did anyone notice the windows notification sound at 2:00?
THANK YOU SO MUCH
Oke so I've got a question, I'm not trans but I'm a singer, is it like speaking in head voice rather than chest voice
When you say let it fall, do you mean let the pitch fall?
Thanks this helped a lot
clint wtf are you doing here
I basically am at Stage 5 but 5 and a half is hard even though it seems the simplest.
somehow this made my voice deeper, i think its because i learnt to manipulate my larynx prioperly and then fucked my brain trying to fix it.
Sooo beautiful voice ❤❤
HELP!! I STILL CAN'T GET MY ADAMS APPLE TO STAY UP
I'VE TRIED EVERYTHING
"and here is how I play pro league hockey... now do the exact same..." "teacher, i don't know how to put skates on.".... that's how I feel
I am not trans. I don't know why youtube keeps recommending these videos but I keep watching them all.
That... would be why YT keeps recommending them lol
YT knows you better than you know yourself.
I just want to do a little trolling online
It's really kind of interesting to me how much the 2nd option for the larynx stuff doesn't make sense to me (the tongue one kind of does, but I'm tongue-tied soo..). Not that I don't understand in a literal sense what the idea is, but that I find myself at a loss at the very beginning on trying to implement the idea "pretend to choke". Makes me wonder if it's something to do with me being autistic and having very poor body awareness. Brains are fascinating.
No worries! Really its about sound. So, on the same pitch lets say G3 - you can find it on google - try to make a dark sound and then a bright sound. Try saying the days of the week and make one sound dark and one sound bright. The ear is the first thing to train. Be sure to record!
How much time did it took for you to have this femminise your voice? ❤
im tongue tied and cant rlly do anything with my tongue lol
I give up! 🤦♀️
Great video! Very effective for me. Oh and if no one is telling you, you're a goddamn babe!
0:59 OH YOU BIRTHED ME MOTHER.... this is THE key for me even with same deep voice, it is soooo much better and more feminine...
you are not a woman!
@@sigma3406you are not a sigma!
And now I just sound really nasally and still very masculine.
I'm a woman but my voice has always been kinda masculine so I'll so try this lol
we're all women here leia lmao you're not different with that
@@goysb4jays566 please log off for me og, you literally hunted for this content just to say bullshit like this.
I've got a question. When i make a feminin Voice i have the problem that it sounds very fake for me cause i heard a long time in my life a very deep voice. And cause of that tahtvit sounds fake for me it scarred me that it sounds fake for everyone. So my question is how do you normalize this voice for you
Record yourself often and practice a lot! You'll eventually be able to hear your voice objectively and start to work on the nuances. Practice, practice, practice
Genuine question- Is it harder to talk more feminine instead of your more natural voice? As in does it strain your voice to do this?
It is much easier both physically and mentally to use my everyday voice than it is to use a masculine one.
@@seattlevoicelab Okay thanks I appreciate the response! I did have a follow-up question but if you're too busy I understand.
Just to clarify it is NOT more physically straining on you to speak feminine? I just always assumed physically speaking differently than what we "naturally" speak, aka just what we're more used to at the time, could potentially be more physically demanding (E.G. voice actors can sometimes have more physically demanding voices).
I'll even occasionally try and do different accents or higher pitched voices and it seems to be more physically difficult but maybe I'm not doing it correctly (I'm not a professional by any means).
You seem quite knowledgeable on voice-stuff so that's why I'm asking that's all. Thanks again.
P.S. I should really clarify here we're presuming, before transitioning, you used to talk more masculine. That is why I'm asking if it takes more (physical) strain to talk the way you talk now. I understand your feminine voice, your "everyday" voice is what you prefer and feel better with, this is fine, but I just wanted to clarify if it is physically more straining or not. Excluding anything mental aside purely talking only the physical.
at this point i think im not sure 1 on 1 lessons would help let alone youtube guides cuz i still dont get it
1 on 1 would probably be best. We teach! That's our job :) If you have questions or are confused it's our job to help you! Whether it's with us or with another company you should definitely consider 1on1 before giving up. You can do it!
same fucking boat.
i don't understand 2 last steps :c
Are you supposed to feel lightheaded when doing so?
As you're learning the exercise, it's a good indicator you're doing it right! Now that you've got the technique down, search for balance by increasing volume and slightly reducing airflow. Most importantly, play with your voice though!
@@seattlevoicelab Thank you var much ❤!
What does twang mean help I’m dumb
Good job bruh
I transitioned in 2008 hired a voice professional for 7 months once a week. I still practice. Still I can't seem to get it right. For everyone else my voice is fine. But I'm still being picky. It don't sound as I want it. Maybe one day I finally say f it and move on. But it's like that damn itch! I want to scratch the itch😂
Well, fundamentally you're a person that isn't able to accept yourself for what you are, so it is hardly a surprise that you can't accept your voice for how it is.
That feels impossible, i want to give up...
Practice , practice , practice.I have been doing it for a year now. People who really don't know me (call center, store, even many Indian job callers (Usually they simply recognize by distinct name as India has a clear cut name between male and female by birth) . They many a times say mam to me that cannot access your Gender info (BTW, it should be locked down) greet me with mam .. How can I help you. But there are few who would know but will not sir me . But we all know there are A.H every were..
Still don't get it
Her male voice sounds penguinz0
That's what I was thinking !
his
@@sigma3406her
a good vide3o
no way they seriously said some weird science mumbo jumbo with a straight face and called it "for dummies" omg i just need a GUIDE THAT WORKS MAN.
This. It's so fucking frustrating, how the hell am I suposed to know what an alevolar ridge is? Or what fucking twang or resonance is? I'm seriously done with voice training, it's always the same bullshit.
do your own research on it i guess? read and learn about all the common terms and then come back to these videos or just keep looking for a long series of videos that explain things in simpler terms. majority of people find this video helpful based off the comments, sorry you don’t, but that doesn’t mean it doesn’t work. you just have to put in that little bit of effort on your end. don’t just click on a video and tap out when they throw words at you that you don’t understand. learn the words. yes, it’s frustrating, it’s daunting, but you’re never going to get anywhere if you need someone to hold your hand the whole way.
@@mimirrae If you are going to make a tutorial video and entitle it 'For dummies' and advert it as easy to understand and then not provide a glossary of the terms you will be using then what is the point of doing it? Unless you don't want people to understand.
@@gottderneuenwelt yes but she demonstrated and 99.99% of the comments are people who found it easy and helpful. that’s my point. if you don’t find it helpful then find a different video or research the stuff you find confusing and read about it on your own.
@@mimirrae Sure but you will find comments like these in every voice tutorial video. All I am saying is that you can't entitle the video for dummies and not give at least a ten second explanation of what you are saying.
oops too much work 😂
2:02 holy shit spengepob
Freaked me out
This must be the easiest one of these I've ever seen
Can you also make out of a 21 year old hoarse voice a excellent female voice? Also I honestly still don't know how this works.
shes cute as hell :)
@@abbycyrus1981 shut up scammer
Круто
"Bring the root of your tongue as close to...."
I have no idea how the root of the tongue could be brought anywhere. I see exercices for the dentist's chair but no one would articulate words and sentences with the mouth wide open like that. There is some mysterious gap from these sounds to a conversation.
Honestly, I have watched videos for years and have never found an explanation that was clear to me.
you will never pass as a woman you are always gonna be a man no matter how hard you try.
Its better to just end it all.
Me who has a short tongue...
I don't fucking understand aaaaAAAAHHHHHHHH 😭
U sound like phoebe from friends..
J
This is not easy D:
can somebody explain what the fuck a larynx is. literally it's never explained this whole time and I'm expected to just know what it is
Your voice box. But isn't it quicker to just search for it than wait two weeks for a reply?
i dont understand anything
Whats a twang
I think she means that you should start introducing some natural speech patterns (pauses, changes in pitch, emphasis on certain syllables, etc) into the monotone robotic voice.
@@timthetummytickler2422 ah okay
Would you take my money just as a tip??
Ha! no, I prefer people sponsor other students through our scholarship program. If you want to sponsor someone, would you email me through our contact form at seattlevoicelab.com
Why would a Trans person need to change their voice
To reduce dysphoria
As a bro, you have a handsome voice. ❤
You sound like Mickey Mouse?😅😅😂😂
Another guide that just throws some buzzwords at you and not explaining what they mean.
Which words would you like more information on? We have a lot of guides. Check out this one instead
@@seattlevoicelab I don't know what and 'alveolar ridge' is nor what 'twang' and 'root of the tounge 'mean. This is just too confusing
@@gottderneuenwelt the ridge is that bump behind the top front teeth. The root of the tongue is the very back of the tongue where it moves downward.
@@gottderneuenwelt twang is a tone, it kinda sounds nasally. I hope this all helps 🙂
i totally get the frustration as someone who is also beginning to voice train, but this comment wasn't very nice :[
Larinx up takes to vocal pathology 🤷🏻♀️😥 Don’t do it🙏🤦♀️
Only if Vocal Pressure and Weight isn't addressed as well.
@@seattlevoicelab the Larynx NEVER has to go up, regardless of the notes used.
@@lauraneiravoz Best of luck giving your students affirming voices!
Unhelpful
🤦♂️
LOL
So much work to sound like a girl