If they are consistent with how things happened in FF1 lore, then the Warrior of Light fight should be updated each DLC update to reflect how the WoL is getting stronger each cycle until he is finally strong enough to cause the events of FF1. By the time of FF1, Garland and Warrior of Light had already gone through countless battles with each other to a point Garland no longer even keeps count of how many times he defeated WoL.
what the hell? Is this how square enix will making games? selling 50% games as full prices and make other 50% as dlcs? dlc supposed to be extra story and contents, not the main story
well this specific fight is the end of FF1, that's why Jack says he's looking forward to doing it again in 2000 years his speech very roughly equates to his monologue at the end of FF1
Is it at all possible that the cycles are actually saved games where the Wol lose to garland? So each cycle the player would reload and try again or something?
Spoiler: It wasn't just them getting stronger, it was mainly because of the player's intervention That's the reason the end credit call the player the "true warrior of light" (as a singular and not plural) who broke the cycle. the party as the npc stood no chance regardless of how much they had grown, as Garland also had grown, and possibly even more so than them.
Actually, compared to what FF threw out back in the day. This one is rather simple. It's not that hard to understand. It's just that it requires you to pay attention. One upon a time in the world of FF1, two nations, Cornelia and Lufenia, were at war with each other. Due to discovering how to harness darkness as an energy source, Lufenia's technology exceeded rapidly and were winning the war, but instead of defeating Cornelia althogether, they decided to teleport their whole civilization out of the world and into an alternate dimension where they would build their perfect paradise. However, the Lufenians discovered that should too much light or darkness consume Cornelia, it could risk dragging Lufenia back into the world. So they commenced what's called the Stranger project where they would send their own citizens as agents called Strangers and cull out darkness due to a pre-programmed desire to kill Chaos. Each stranger is given a dark crystal that wipes their memories after each reset so that they don't give into emotion and become consumed in Chaos. One of these agents is Jack Garland, a senior agent. Jack, in a previous loop, comes to the conclusion that what Lufenia is doing is wrong, and due to his love for Princess Sarah, creates a plan to work with Astos, a dark elf who isn't affected by the time resets, to break Lufenia's control over Cornelia by becoming Chaos. Using a dimensional crystal matrix, the Lufenians have the ability to reset the world should too much darkness infest Cornelia. Too much light and they just simply pump Cornelia with darkness. Astos serves as a guide for Jack and his friends, for everytime Jack dies, the Lufenians restart the loop because Veteran agents are precious resources (This is shown in the beginning of the game during the fight against Tiamat). As Jack and Co go through the game, they slowly but surely regain their memories, until they all realize that they're not meant to kill Chaos, but become Chaos and the four fiends to defeat Lufenia, which is what happens in the end. And that's basically what the whole game is about.
Whenever I see the Warrior of Light, I can’t help but NOT hear “To the Edge” echoing in my mind. Of course, that song tells of a different story than this one.
That moment where the guy who wanted to kill Chaos became Chaos and a new guy must stop Chaos, and this loops for ages untill FF1.... Woah, this game is truly chaotic!
The Warrior of Light's pose in the thumbnail is actually similar to the first FF1 cover in Japan, which is kind of a nod to the first game which is definitely cool!
I love that they kept moves from Dissidia like Shining Wave and Shield of Light. Just like they did keeping moves like Hell’s Gate, Scintilla, Shadow Flare, and Octaslash for Remake Sephiroth
@@aidanwow1593 Not true, Octaslash came from Crisis Core, Scintilla first appeared in Dissidia, and Hell's Gate was originally just a nod (like a lot of dissidia abilities) to how he kills Aerith
Picture This: a remake of the first final fantasy with the warrior of Light from dissidia. You get the option to choose which classes are in your starting party but this time they all have set personalities though you get to name each of them. You also get the ability to recruit the other classes at certain points in the game. Then at the end once chaos is defeated what's left of jack thanks the warriors from freeing him and the rest of the world from the cycle as he fades away
WoL despite a being a manikin(heh) of a chracter, is one of my favourites from the series. I couldn't stop playing as him in all of the Dissidia games.
Isn't it ironic that Chaos and his Four Fields will be defeated by a manikin of Cid the Lufenian? Even though WoL has no association with the Lufenians. It's still irony that Jack will die by a manikin of a Lufenian scientist.
It's funny but going by the FF1 lore, since Jack doesn't do anything for the 2000 years he just grows increasingly weaker until he's killed in the present, then they go back and try to kill him in the past but he wins every time till FF1. Maybe Jack should kept a little training up for the 2000 years to make the loops faster.
@@nightcloud2014 That's true but going by gameplay he's just much weaker in his first battle, and his dialogue implies he only ever restarts the loop after beating them 2000 years in the past.
@@guyoncouch8796 The dialogue from the original game said he would lose his memories in 2000 years. Given how the loop worked before, I think Jack resets himself without his memories, except his attempt to kidnap the princess, then uses the dark crystal in the Chaos Temple to regain his memories and go back to the past, where he sits and waits the arrival of the Warriors of Light. His initial weakness could be explained by him not remembering his real powers.
@@guyoncouch8796 Pretty sure the idea isn't he's getting weaker, it's that the warrior of light is getting stronger with each failure and reattempt till they get to the point where they're able to basically put him in the ground. But even then you're only defeating Garland at the beginning of FF1, NOT chaos. THat's the final fight.
Man, imagine thousands of years of sitting on your throne and getting up to fight these same four guys until they're strong enough to kill the final boss. Or, uh, the same one guy, considering the other three just eat shit and fall over without doing anything.
Well I Guess that explains the whole time loop situation in the original FF1. It really didn’t make sense how the Warriors were able to randomly able to break the loop, when theoretically speaking, the loop should continue infinitely, with Garland being sent to the future by the Fiends, becoming Chaos (and supposedly killing the Warriors Of Light), and sending the Fiends back in time, to send him to the future, to preserve the loop. Yeah time travel is weird 😵 😵💫 But im glad this game touched it. The reason why the Warriors Of Lights were able to defeat Chaos, was because they were progressively stronger after every cycle of the loop.
Time loop scenarios are difficult to write properly, but they succeeded here. And it was hard. To be honest the FF1 time loop never made sense, and yet they succeeded in making it make sense.
Some confusion here…wol already got bahamuts power and still lost again so it can’t end differently anymore the next cycle. In one of the old dissidia games, garland explains that cid the lufenian (the moogle that summoned bahamut) saved him from the time loop which means the last DLC “different future” will probably be that happening where wol can never win and cid helps jack out of the futile cycle and instead helps cid start dissidia, that’s how the story of dissidia starts and then the real ff1 after that. So it’s probably the struggles in dissidia that improve wol to his best and that’s how we win in FF1.
@@shadbonnieakahenrymarcimof6725 That one was still ambiguous, but given that world B is implied to be the world where WoL was born (remember, he was CREATED by Cid as his manikin, not summoned), that means Garland most likely recognized Cid himself when he saw him. Or he recognized the Warrior of Light because, from his perspective, he already existed in his world. I think Stranger of Paradise, Dissidia and the first FF are tied together in a way that none could exist without the others, like a stable time loop of sorts: when Jack cut the Lufenians' ties to World A, he created another timeline where Cid's actions would lead to the creation of World B and the events of Dissidia happening, and Cid's actions in World B would ensure the existence of the Warrior of light in World A, thus setting in motion the events of the first FF.
Jack Garland is very raw for literally waiting eons for the Warrior of Light to get stronger and stronger til he eventually wins. Only shame about this fight is not getting to hear the Hero speak much beyond his battle quotes.
If he's more faithful to his FF1 counterpart. Then makes sense he's silent. Also, Jack already waited eons being Lufenians slave. So an eon doing what he wants is childe play.
This reals seeing the warrior of light in this game. I just wonder what the creative team were thinking adding the dragoon to the team even though it shouldn’t exist yet.
Maybe a dlc when wol and his party became strong enough to kill garland. So it becomes 1 vs 4 for last battle. In that fight wol and his party would be healed by the white mage while they are protecting him/her.
@@LightningZerker Holy shit. Only now, 30 years later did I finally realize that the white mage was female. I thought all the warriors of light were men but in retrospect, yeah the white mage did look kind of off.
I knew it… There’s no way they would let Jack use Garland outfit job instead his many jobs… Like that would happen…Thanks for giving me such high hope…. So even they can’t let us face against Warrior of Light’s allies than Warrior of Light himself.
WoL can't even have a single moment of peace. can't have shit in Cornelia and literally anywhere with Garland, first WoL got sucked into a god & goddess playing chess repeatedly on countless cycles universe by him, and the next thing he knew at the end of Dissidia 012 Garland already made another time travel cycle's loophole exploit mess again. Let alone that, he got sucked into even more other universes right after the iconic opening scene of FF1 and even at various points of his journey
And then get a reversed one that WoL beat the shit out of Garland in Dissidia that say Think Garland, think. You could make out the Knock you down speech but you didn't.
@@КонстантинПаршуков-о6б actually Ardyn wanted to end his suffering and the star scourge which would only happen when noctus kills himself to bring the end to it hes following the eidolons plan to the t he was forced to be betrayed and hated mad the bad guy not by choice but fate aka behamid wanted it as so
So, using model from Dissidia NT, but then use some skill set from 012. Like literally the normal sword chuck is 012 skill. The sword thrust of his is Shield Throw and Thrust, but the shield is not used. When knocked down, he says "I can not fall now" from NT. There might be some quotes more but since his sounds is small, I can't hear
"I am salvation given form, Mankind first hero and his final hope! I render my all to victory!" if WoL said that it would be an epic battle but no since he always a silent hero.
@@Undead_Grius HARD AGREE. I bought the game, saw what they were tryna do not even an hour into my playthrough, tried to get a refund but Epic Games was like: "Nah." Waste of money. Combat was ok, Story was TRASH TIER, Graphics looked like shit(They literally took FF Mobius engine, and didn't even bother upscaling the resolution on A LOT of the Textures/Environment). This game made me want FF Mobius back, at least that had promise. This game, doesn't offer anything, but something FF1 fanbois to throw their money at and regret later.(this coming from a FF fanboi)
He doesn't say "I, Garland, will knock you all down!" because this is not the first encounter in the present, but the one in the past. In this loop, the Warrior is so weak that Jack doesn't need to transform into Chaos to kill him.
That's because technically he didn't knock him down, he more stabbed him and blew him up The other three warriors though? No yeah they got knocked down real good
Perhaps that is his strongest "normally" version: in fact, he becomes normal again after landing three of the Warriors of Light, he probably won't if all four remain steadfast.
Same dissidia nt while it looked good graphically the gameplay left a sour taste in my mouth. Hoping we get something along duodecim for next gen in the near future.
Honestly, I was kind of hoping it would go full circle. The WOL would win. Then, as a defeated Jack starts to explain himself, the WOL just says "BS" and then walks away while listening to his Android. ^_^
No... Garland/Chaos kills the Warriors of Light through countless time loops. That's canon. Warrior of Light can only win with the player's help as mentioned in the ending of FF1. Without the player's help, WoL gets destroyed by Jack every times.
Wait, so did rabtoon forsee stranger of paradise? In their first final fantasy in a nutshell there is a part where garland starts saying that he is alive because of the time loop of sending the four fiends forward in time so that they can send him back in time so that he can send them forward in time... Until the wol cuts him off asking "wait, of things are like this, then how the hell did this time loop start anyway?" Just for garland to shrug and asks if he could turn into his final form... Well, looks like we go the answer to that... Somehow...
Did they ever put Jack's Cloudsea Djinn armor into the game? I feel like it's the Myochin Armor, but the colors make it put off. I'm asking because I think that's actually the canon armor that Jack would be using. The Cloudsea Djinn armor is described as what Garland looks like with his armor off. Kind of wish I could see that. The only other thing I hate about the story is the placeholders they put in for the 3 WoLs; they'll never give us characters for them, but I really want to see them in, like, DFFOO and other collabs. Otherwise, for the time and work they put into this, this is satisfying content. Complicated storyline and repetitive enemy grinding, but satisfying.
The Cloudsea Djinn was a concept art and it did not represent Garland with no armor. But that doesn't matter because jack is not taking his armor off in this scene, he's changing forms, if the ending of the main game did not made you realize, when the game shows the warriors of chaos in their normal human forms that is just how they and Jack see themselves when in actuality, they are in their monster forms. Jack's dialogue here is a slightly altered version of his final monologue in the original Final Fantasy, Jack is not taking his armor off, he's transforming into his Chaos form, just like he did once he finished his monologue in the original game.
@@aldiascholarofthefirstsin1051 I see what you're talking about, and I know when this event is. I feel like we're comparing this too much to the original FF1, though. After all, there still isn't a good enough line between both timelines. Like, if this was his actual Chaos battle, I kind of would be expecting him to teleport them all to Station 19 after singling WoL out and then start fighting, and then when he turns back to say "I look forward to doing this again in two thousand years." let his image shift from Jack to Chaos. But I understand now, thanks for clarifying.
I couldn't stop thinking: "Man I really want to love this, but I just can't..." (Talking both about the Game, and this Fight). Hype & Nostalgia-lenses are the only things keepin' this game moving forward.
i'd have liked to see this fight more dynamic, i see wol combat style so slow, idk if it's only my perception, maybe the ia should have been set up better
Question, Does he willingly go back in time 2000 years to wait for them and do the warriors actually grow stronger with each encounter even though they lose?
If they are consistent with how things happened in FF1 lore, then the Warrior of Light fight should be updated each DLC update to reflect how the WoL is getting stronger each cycle until he is finally strong enough to cause the events of FF1. By the time of FF1, Garland and Warrior of Light had already gone through countless battles with each other to a point Garland no longer even keeps count of how many times he defeated WoL.
And then a final battle DLC playing as WoL vs Jack. Thus kicking off the events of FF1.
@@paperluigi6132 That would be awesome as hell, at that point; the two would no longer be "Strangers of Paradise".
@TroubadorPoet The sailboat was fun for what it was.
what the hell? Is this how square enix will making games? selling 50% games as full prices and make other 50% as dlcs? dlc supposed to be extra story and contents, not the main story
@@Secretxxx67 which is exactly the case here, so chill out lmfao
To think that many cycles later, the warriors of light get so strong that Jack is easily defeated as their first boss battle.
well this specific fight is the end of FF1, that's why Jack says he's looking forward to doing it again in 2000 years
his speech very roughly equates to his monologue at the end of FF1
Is it at all possible that the cycles are actually saved games where the Wol lose to garland? So each cycle the player would reload and try again or something?
Spoiler:
It wasn't just them getting stronger, it was mainly because of the player's intervention
That's the reason the end credit call the player the "true warrior of light" (as a singular and not plural) who broke the cycle.
the party as the npc stood no chance regardless of how much they had grown, as Garland also had grown, and possibly even more so than them.
@@marcmunoz5069 yes, that is explicitly what happens in FF1, to my knowledge it's the first game to make game overs canon
@@GameSharks No, that's never implied anywhere.
There he is, Mr. Final Fantasy.
John Fantasy himself.
My name is Jack Garland, and this... is my Final Fantasy
Chaos lol
You know, they went way out of their way to make the simplest Final Fantasy game the most complicated. It's insane.
It had a time loop as a plot. This one did explain how it happened in the first place which helps with the headaches.
Seriously fuucked up, I am no idea they changed the original directions
Actually, compared to what FF threw out back in the day. This one is rather simple. It's not that hard to understand. It's just that it requires you to pay attention.
One upon a time in the world of FF1, two nations, Cornelia and Lufenia, were at war with each other. Due to discovering how to harness darkness as an energy source, Lufenia's technology exceeded rapidly and were winning the war, but instead of defeating Cornelia althogether, they decided to teleport their whole civilization out of the world and into an alternate dimension where they would build their perfect paradise.
However, the Lufenians discovered that should too much light or darkness consume Cornelia, it could risk dragging Lufenia back into the world. So they commenced what's called the Stranger project where they would send their own citizens as agents called Strangers and cull out darkness due to a pre-programmed desire to kill Chaos. Each stranger is given a dark crystal that wipes their memories after each reset so that they don't give into emotion and become consumed in Chaos.
One of these agents is Jack Garland, a senior agent. Jack, in a previous loop, comes to the conclusion that what Lufenia is doing is wrong, and due to his love for Princess Sarah, creates a plan to work with Astos, a dark elf who isn't affected by the time resets, to break Lufenia's control over Cornelia by becoming Chaos. Using a dimensional crystal matrix, the Lufenians have the ability to reset the world should too much darkness infest Cornelia. Too much light and they just simply pump Cornelia with darkness.
Astos serves as a guide for Jack and his friends, for everytime Jack dies, the Lufenians restart the loop because Veteran agents are precious resources (This is shown in the beginning of the game during the fight against Tiamat). As Jack and Co go through the game, they slowly but surely regain their memories, until they all realize that they're not meant to kill Chaos, but become Chaos and the four fiends to defeat Lufenia, which is what happens in the end.
And that's basically what the whole game is about.
FF1 is simple until the twist ending (time loop).
Then it becomes convoluted as the time loop is never explained.
The simplest would be FFTA
As a WoL Dissidia main, it feels great to see his moveset like this.
I thought the same thing. Great to see how faithful it is to Dissidia
I mean, the devs (Team Ninja) literally made two Dissidia games.
If only Square would re-release 012 for modern consoles. :
@@GrahamChapman playing 012 right now for the first time and it’s great
@@MadDragonify Who's your main? :3
Whenever I see the Warrior of Light, I can’t help but NOT hear “To the Edge” echoing in my mind. Of course, that song tells of a different story than this one.
Haha thats what I did, I put on the "To the edge" OST and it just fits. One brings shadow, one brings the light.
Like broken angels, wingless, cast from heaven’s gates~
All our memories..
Such REMEMBRATION...this was not my intention!
@@TheKingOfN0thing Our slumbering demons awake…
That moment where the guy who wanted to kill Chaos became Chaos and a new guy must stop Chaos, and this loops for ages untill FF1.... Woah, this game is truly chaotic!
Chaos
Chaos (3)
Chaos (4)
Chaos (5)
Not surprising Jack became Chaos (6).
Yes, I too remember when my other 3 WoLs died on the first turn and Garland took off his cool armor in FF1.
It's gonna be really anticlimactic when four White Mages make Jack self-destruct with the Fear spell.
After many loops later, the three fighting-based dudes said fuck it and became white mages for a joke strat.
*"4 White Mages? It'll never work..."*
@@1aundulxaldin
The White Mages never passed the Vitality check so the Fear Spell exploit never happened.
@@xxx_jim_the_reaper_xxx
I mean, yeah, but I was really thinking of Brian Clevinger.
@@1aundulxaldin
Maybe you should probably try your luck at the game first.
Jack: "Sorry, Warrior of Light. Come back when you're based enough."
This line belongs in a maxor video
An Incorrect summary of Stranger of Paradise when max0r?
@@atmastand3485 Please, let that be a reality.
@@thaqiftalip2771 I can't agree with you enough.
Garland: "My skill is beyond your comprehension"
Also Garland: *(Runs away and spams buffs)*
The Warrior of Light's pose in the thumbnail is actually similar to the first FF1 cover in Japan, which is kind of a nod to the first game which is definitely cool!
2000 years later...
A warrior, a thief, a black mage and a white mage will walk through those doors...
My original party.
On second playthrough, went with monk and red mage instead. Was more interesting.
And the last word garland will hear is "Hadouken!"
Wouldn't mind a full in remake of ff1 honestly.
WoL: Er.... This is like, the 88th boss run guys.
Chaos: 😐
First play through warror red mage white mage thief second same just replaced theif with black mage
2:29 I love how they make him lose the helmet just so he can do the box art pose.
I love that they kept moves from Dissidia like Shining Wave and Shield of Light. Just like they did keeping moves like Hell’s Gate, Scintilla, Shadow Flare, and Octaslash for Remake Sephiroth
Technically all of Sephiroth's moves were from FFVII, they just took inspiration from Dissidia for the animations.
@@aidanwow1593 Not true, Octaslash came from Crisis Core, Scintilla first appeared in Dissidia, and Hell's Gate was originally just a nod (like a lot of dissidia abilities) to how he kills Aerith
@@TheLeviathanZero . scintilla appears first in Ehrgeiz, tho.
To me, warriors of light! I am salvation given form. Mankind's first hero. And its final hero!
*All our splendor bathed black in silence*
The only true warrior of light fight we have in the series, as far as I'm concerned.
Warrior of Light that summons his whole party and uses Limit Break 4 >>>>>>>>>>>> This guy
It's Final Hope not Hero, just thought I'd let ya know.
FOR VICTORY, I RENDER UP MY ALL!
Themis go back to sleep!
When memes started: I WANT TO KILL CHAOS
When you finally understand everything: I WANT MY FEELINGS BACK
Picture This: a remake of the first final fantasy with the warrior of Light from dissidia. You get the option to choose which classes are in your starting party but this time they all have set personalities though you get to name each of them. You also get the ability to recruit the other classes at certain points in the game. Then at the end once chaos is defeated what's left of jack thanks the warriors from freeing him and the rest of the world from the cycle as he fades away
It's so nice to see the Warior of Light from Dissidia in action as the actual protagonist of FF1 (in this case)
This is something I've wanted!!
WoL despite a being a manikin(heh) of a chracter, is one of my favourites from the series. I couldn't stop playing as him in all of the Dissidia games.
Isn't it ironic that Chaos and his Four Fields will be defeated by a manikin of Cid the Lufenian? Even though WoL has no association with the Lufenians. It's still irony that Jack will die by a manikin of a Lufenian scientist.
It's funny but going by the FF1 lore, since Jack doesn't do anything for the 2000 years he just grows increasingly weaker until he's killed in the present, then they go back and try to kill him in the past but he wins every time till FF1. Maybe Jack should kept a little training up for the 2000 years to make the loops faster.
I don't think he gets weaker, because the chaos and darkness of the land doesn't decreases if anything it only grows.
@@nightcloud2014 That's true but going by gameplay he's just much weaker in his first battle, and his dialogue implies he only ever restarts the loop after beating them 2000 years in the past.
@@guyoncouch8796
The dialogue from the original game said he would lose his memories in 2000 years. Given how the loop worked before, I think Jack resets himself without his memories, except his attempt to kidnap the princess, then uses the dark crystal in the Chaos Temple to regain his memories and go back to the past, where he sits and waits the arrival of the Warriors of Light. His initial weakness could be explained by him not remembering his real powers.
@@guyoncouch8796 Pretty sure the idea isn't he's getting weaker, it's that the warrior of light is getting stronger with each failure and reattempt till they get to the point where they're able to basically put him in the ground. But even then you're only defeating Garland at the beginning of FF1, NOT chaos. THat's the final fight.
I think he intentionally loses the first time to get the Warriors of Light started.
Man, imagine thousands of years of sitting on your throne and getting up to fight these same four guys until they're strong enough to kill the final boss.
Or, uh, the same one guy, considering the other three just eat shit and fall over without doing anything.
arent he bored sitting there for 2000 years just to wait for our beloves party of light came out😅
Can you tell which party member got solo xp grind on Agama tile?
That's why Garland is such a hero. Not the WoL.
@@Bahamut998
Imagine how difficult it is to babysit casual players just for them to beat the Final Boss without dying.
They didn't fall over. Garland knocked them down
Ngl, I'm glad to hear Grant George as the Warrior of Light again.
Well I Guess that explains the whole time loop situation in the original FF1. It really didn’t make sense how the Warriors were able to randomly able to break the loop, when theoretically speaking, the loop should continue infinitely, with Garland being sent to the future by the Fiends, becoming Chaos (and supposedly killing the Warriors Of Light), and sending the Fiends back in time, to send him to the future, to preserve the loop. Yeah time travel is weird 😵 😵💫
But im glad this game touched it. The reason why the Warriors Of Lights were able to defeat Chaos, was because they were progressively stronger after every cycle of the loop.
Time loop scenarios are difficult to write properly, but they succeeded here.
And it was hard. To be honest the FF1 time loop never made sense, and yet they succeeded in making it make sense.
Some confusion here…wol already got bahamuts power and still lost again so it can’t end differently anymore the next cycle. In one of the old dissidia games, garland explains that cid the lufenian (the moogle that summoned bahamut) saved him from the time loop which means the last DLC “different future” will probably be that happening where wol can never win and cid helps jack out of the futile cycle and instead helps cid start dissidia, that’s how the story of dissidia starts and then the real ff1 after that. So it’s probably the struggles in dissidia that improve wol to his best and that’s how we win in FF1.
In Dissidia, when summon to world B, Garland report said he was dying
That mean in certain loop, WoL was slapping Garland ass. Because when saw WoL got summoned by Cid into the battle, Garland got scared
or, jack realizes he needs to be the one to kill chaos and pulls a Different Jack to fight him and we play that jack
@@shadbonnieakahenrymarcimof6725
That one was still ambiguous, but given that world B is implied to be the world where WoL was born (remember, he was CREATED by Cid as his manikin, not summoned), that means Garland most likely recognized Cid himself when he saw him. Or he recognized the Warrior of Light because, from his perspective, he already existed in his world.
I think Stranger of Paradise, Dissidia and the first FF are tied together in a way that none could exist without the others, like a stable time loop of sorts: when Jack cut the Lufenians' ties to World A, he created another timeline where Cid's actions would lead to the creation of World B and the events of Dissidia happening, and Cid's actions in World B would ensure the existence of the Warrior of light in World A, thus setting in motion the events of the first FF.
@@PMbarbieri yeah, this is a bunch of wtf shenanigans indeed.
*Yeah, I know WoL is Cid manikin, the way he appeared was summon-ly as heck*
Love how the Warrior of Light's VA is the same one from Dissidia.
And not like how they changed Clouds in the Remake
Garlands voice was also the same as Dissidia thank god. Hopefully that's Jack's voice at the end.
So does this mean Dissidia Garland was actually Neon in disguise or what?
I feel they went the easier/lazy route and just straight up ripped Audio logs from the Dissidia games
Mocean Melvin
jp: Kenjiro Tsuda
You should see what they did to Zack's voice.
Man... Garland really went from this stereotypical, two-bit villain to someone so based.
Game ending yourself to save the world is based
Jack Garland is very raw for literally waiting eons for the Warrior of Light to get stronger and stronger til he eventually wins.
Only shame about this fight is not getting to hear the Hero speak much beyond his battle quotes.
Fr that’s my only gripe with considering how much he was talking in dissidia
If he's more faithful to his FF1 counterpart. Then makes sense he's silent. Also, Jack already waited eons being Lufenians slave. So an eon doing what he wants is childe play.
For me, it's that we're not fighting him in the Garland armor.
he should never speak, the warrior is supposed to be us, the player.
@@TheOnlyHeero the fake holds no place here.
Imagine if in the original FFI, Garland took his armour off like he does here so gameplay can happen.
I Garland, shall knock my clothes down!
This reals seeing the warrior of light in this game. I just wonder what the creative team were thinking adding the dragoon to the team even though it shouldn’t exist yet.
Oh! That lancer is actually a Monk
@@NajaSide lancer ga shinda
@@Oreca2005 I see what you did there 😏
they needed to add a DRG to reinforce the fact that the WoL companions are floor tanking without even taking a direct hit.
By the time FF1 takes place Dragoon could have been wiped out of the cylces
It sucks that the other 3 just got pushed aside. It would be nice to have them be treated like equals and not just the one warrior.
Maybe a dlc when wol and his party became strong enough to kill garland. So it becomes 1 vs 4 for last battle. In that fight wol and his party would be healed by the white mage while they are protecting him/her.
Side characters don't matter
Nah I REALLY liked that detail as this WoL is the true warrior of light
This is why Garland threatens to knock them all down. He literally did it to all but one warriors during the earlier cycles.
what ! the truth is Jack Garland Just repeat the cycle until WOL getting Stronger to defeat Jack for 2000 years !
Guess he did knock him down after all
If he fought the White Mage he may have knocked her up istea-yeah, I'll see myself out.
@@LightningZerker
Hehehehehe!
White Mage
@@LightningZerker white mage with the impregnation fetish???😳😳😳😳
@@LightningZerker Holy shit. Only now, 30 years later did I finally realize that the white mage was female.
I thought all the warriors of light were men but in retrospect, yeah the white mage did look kind of off.
I knew it… There’s no way they would let Jack use Garland outfit job instead his many jobs… Like that would happen…Thanks for giving me such high hope…. So even they can’t let us face against Warrior of Light’s allies than Warrior of Light himself.
Kinda of missed opportunity
I just think that Warrior of Light's party didn't pass the Vigor-check.
A real shame that we cannot wear it. Like... Why?
@@xxx_jim_the_reaper_xxx
Warriors Of Light expecting a proper JRPG only to end up getting Elden Ring'ed harder than a first time player meeting Margit
@@TheNapster153
I know right?
WoL can't even have a single moment of peace. can't have shit in Cornelia and literally anywhere with Garland, first WoL got sucked into a god & goddess playing chess repeatedly on countless cycles universe by him, and the next thing he knew at the end of Dissidia 012 Garland already made another time travel cycle's loophole exploit mess again. Let alone that, he got sucked into even more other universes right after the iconic opening scene of FF1 and even at various points of his journey
The worst part is that there’s FF1 Garland and WoL and StoP Garland and WoL. WoL can’t win in either world.
@@infernaldisdain8051 doesnt mean he wont stop trying though
*2,000 years later.*
Square Enix: “Remember that game we made 2,000 years ago? Here’s the second dlc!”
They just announced second DLC coming up next, you meet Gilgamesh.
Someone needs to make a "think mark" meme, with garland yelling at wol, saying your suppose to be the chosen one, get gud already.
And then get a reversed one that WoL beat the shit out of Garland in Dissidia that say Think Garland, think. You could make out the Knock you down speech but you didn't.
With the Garland armor, taking two thirds of the screen!
XD
Guess warrior of the light will resurrect back and be ready in the future
Nah, Jack went back in time and waited for them again.
Jack hit the reset button each time he turns the Warrior of Light into a modern art installation.
He killed every reincarnation
Jack and Ardyn needs to team-up. It's good to play as the villain.
That would be interesting heck imagine if firion made appearance
I don't think so. Jack still wants to save Cornelia from Lufenians while Ardyn wants to destroy the world.
@@ryukopoolpeacemaker228hd9 Also random as heck lmao
@@КонстантинПаршуков-о6б actually Ardyn wanted to end his suffering and the star scourge which would only happen when noctus kills himself to bring the end to it hes following the eidolons plan to the t he was forced to be betrayed and hated mad the bad guy not by choice but fate aka behamid wanted it as so
Jack would tear Ardyn a new one.
Very cool the fact WOL has actually the design given by amano
So, using model from Dissidia NT, but then use some skill set from 012. Like literally the normal sword chuck is 012 skill. The sword thrust of his is Shield Throw and Thrust, but the shield is not used. When knocked down, he says "I can not fall now" from NT. There might be some quotes more but since his sounds is small, I can't hear
Yea, the same dev that made Diss NT made this game so they already have his assets. Just a matter of reimplementing it
Twice now the protagonist of the very first ff game has been owned
Am I the only one a little disappointed that Jack had to fight him in his regular form as opposed to his ironic Garland form?
Fans been asking for developers to put Garland Knight Armor in the game I hope it will be added in the future dlc.
@@jacoryarnett7347 Probably the last DLC
I'm also disappointed Jack only fight WoL one on one
That moment when Jack got to wear his Garland armor in a spin-off mobile game before his actual game
A Paladin, Ninja, Dragoon, and White Mage? Love that honestly.
I still wonder how the hell did a dragoon become a warrior of light in the first place (dragoon job wasn’t officially introduced until FF3)
@@hunterrhoades1813 I think that supposed to be a monk?
So it seems warrior of light's canon design his blue outfit
Always has been. His red outfit/hair is called 'Fledgeling warrior'
"I am salvation given form, Mankind first hero and his final hope! I render my all to victory!"
if WoL said that it would be an epic battle but no since he always a silent hero.
Sudden urge to see Jack absorb every protag in Dissidia
Should have made it a 4 on 1 fight with the true difficulty being the fact you need to deal with their synergy
The player in this loop literally speed running the game using only 1 char then others stays at lv 1 and failed miserably
LoL :))
But isn't garland the first boss your like level 3
@@tylerlane8221 not everyone willing to grind in first 5 minutes of a game
This player also likes to skip cutscenes
the player play too much fire emblem
"Come LIGHT!"
Three get knocked down.
"I told you guys to bring a shield. Why is your voice different than Dissidia? oH WELL. Destiny ENDS HERE!"
LoL
Woah. Kinda interested in the events that’s lead up to this point. Maybe I’ll get the game myself one day?
The game is pretty good. The story can be confusing but it makes sense near the end.
@@Undead_Grius gameplay is great not o.k. did not read the rest of your diary.
@@Undead_Grius HARD AGREE. I bought the game, saw what they were tryna do not even an hour into my playthrough, tried to get a refund but Epic Games was like: "Nah." Waste of money. Combat was ok, Story was TRASH TIER, Graphics looked like shit(They literally took FF Mobius engine, and didn't even bother upscaling the resolution on A LOT of the Textures/Environment). This game made me want FF Mobius back, at least that had promise. This game, doesn't offer anything, but something FF1 fanbois to throw their money at and regret later.(this coming from a FF fanboi)
Chaos
So he will do this for eternity until WoL is strong enought to defeat him?
yes. This is before FF1 when WoL has yet to reach his peak. By the time of FF1, WoL is a lot stronger and can finally destroy the cycle.
@@orrthehunter literally the whole first game
@@orrthehunter so they get reincarnated again and again and again just to get strong enough to defeat CHAOS??
@@super-engineer8437 that is the entire goal for what Jack and his friends are doing.
Imagine grinding on the last boss of a dark souls game until you master all his patterns. It takes WoL thousands of years to get there.
This is what happens if you fight Garland on lvl 1 in FF1 😂
Sheesh that last impale to Wol and him getting crystalized while Jack yelling 'Die' is just brutal
gotta be honest here: we need more games were you end up being literally the last boss himself
Eternal Sonata
1/10 no "I, Garland, will knock you all down!"
Also I was half-hoping we'd fight the entire party. It'd have been awesome
Technically still hasn't happened yet so we may have a chance
He doesn't say "I, Garland, will knock you all down!" because this is not the first encounter in the present, but the one in the past. In this loop, the Warrior is so weak that Jack doesn't need to transform into Chaos to kill him.
That's because technically he didn't knock him down, he more stabbed him and blew him up
The other three warriors though? No yeah they got knocked down real good
I really like they kept the same English VA
Is it just me or does Jack Garland asking the gamers about two thousand years ago, its like he using the playthings or something
Seat of Sacrifice (Unreal)
TO ME! WARRIORS OF LIGHT!
@@Dinomight125 I AM SALVATION GIVEN FORM…
@@spudlypotato9059 _MANKIND’S FIRST HERO…AND HIS FINAL HOPE!_
@@serinahighcomasi2248 *proceeds to become a farm boss like every other raids in XIV*
Cool.... but why can't we ever play as Garland with the helmet and armor on? Even Omnia Opera offers it.
Perhaps that is his strongest "normally" version: in fact, he becomes normal again after landing three of the Warriors of Light, he probably won't if all four remain steadfast.
Maybe in the last DLC where garland is finally defeated
I thought Warrior of Light would say, I’m here to defeat CHAOS
almost died laughing after seeing which seconds were the most replayed in this vid. i think most of us came here just to see that
2:31
In monochrome melodies, our tears are painted in red...
6:45 Jack really took WoL's Earthen Trousers
strangers of paradise will be the best game ever made
not a souls like
but the crazy insane story ever made
Jack is Square Enix and Warrior of Light is the franchise trying to survive until Square destroys it
Jack: Heh. You've got some shine in you.
Me: Well, one of his quotes was, "Shine Brighter!"
I'm not happy with myself...I used extra mode in order to beat him.
I really wish Dissidia would return. :(
Same dissidia nt while it looked good graphically the gameplay left a sour taste in my mouth. Hoping we get something along duodecim for next gen in the near future.
Just play Opera Omnia on the phone :P I've been playing it for bout 2 years myself.
@@Dinomight125 that game sucks and so does your taste in games
@@pyroflare7774 Well that's not very nice :s
@@Dinomight125 I get you want to play SINGLE player games but the OP wants to play a MULTIPLAYER game
If they never add the actual Garland armor as a set you can get, I'll be disappointed.
The final dlc granted your wish judging by the trailer.
Warrior of Light, becomes a hero
Honestly, I was kind of hoping it would go full circle.
The WOL would win. Then, as a defeated Jack starts to explain himself, the WOL just says "BS" and then walks away while listening to his Android.
^_^
bruh, an android doesn't listen to another android
So what's the point of the other 3 warriors if they keep getting knocked down in an instant?
They're there to carry the Warrior of Light's inventory, I guess.
mental support
He, Garland, knocked them all down. Except for one of them.
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Garland, the Vigor-examiner
7:43 damn this is the first time I see the game actually begs the player to be patient for the next release
I got to say your jack looks amazing in your play through!! What was your gear and class specs?
Just realized the voice actor for Jack is also Zegram
Is it just me or does the soundtrack here fucking SLAP???
"I stand by the LIGHT"
Killing Warrior of Light was weird asf for me since I main him in Dissidia lmao
I guess this is the closest final fantasy 1 remake we'll ever get
Watches Dorkly's video:
Jack: oy WoL, GIMME MY WALLET!!!
Took me longer to read the title of this game than it did to watch the video clip.
How cool would it be if the fight switched perspectives from jack to the warrior of light
That would've been sick, especially since the warrior of light is built like a cac.
1:14 this one just made me happy.
I swear to buy this game if somebody make a mod to replace the boss music by "To The Edge"!!!
6:36 😦 Jeez. Might as well put Garland in the next Mortal Kombat game.
Then suddenly Jack woke up and realised he was dreaming, because he was get one shotted if he really fought Warrior of Light.
that’s some serious copium
No... Garland/Chaos kills the Warriors of Light through countless time loops. That's canon. Warrior of Light can only win with the player's help as mentioned in the ending of FF1. Without the player's help, WoL gets destroyed by Jack every times.
I see Warrior of Light has returned from the Dissidia event.
Hell let’s see if jack can beat me In all 3 dissidia’s when I play the WoL. Can’t wait for me, I love him
Wait, so did rabtoon forsee stranger of paradise?
In their first final fantasy in a nutshell there is a part where garland starts saying that he is alive because of the time loop of sending the four fiends forward in time so that they can send him back in time so that he can send them forward in time... Until the wol cuts him off asking "wait, of things are like this, then how the hell did this time loop start anyway?" Just for garland to shrug and asks if he could turn into his final form...
Well, looks like we go the answer to that... Somehow...
So , we waiting, when wol from dissidia come
Did they ever put Jack's Cloudsea Djinn armor into the game? I feel like it's the Myochin Armor, but the colors make it put off.
I'm asking because I think that's actually the canon armor that Jack would be using. The Cloudsea Djinn armor is described as what Garland looks like with his armor off. Kind of wish I could see that.
The only other thing I hate about the story is the placeholders they put in for the 3 WoLs; they'll never give us characters for them, but I really want to see them in, like, DFFOO and other collabs. Otherwise, for the time and work they put into this, this is satisfying content. Complicated storyline and repetitive enemy grinding, but satisfying.
The Cloudsea Djinn was a concept art and it did not represent Garland with no armor.
But that doesn't matter because jack is not taking his armor off in this scene, he's changing forms, if the ending of the main game did not made you realize, when the game shows the warriors of chaos in their normal human forms that is just how they and Jack see themselves when in actuality, they are in their monster forms.
Jack's dialogue here is a slightly altered version of his final monologue in the original Final Fantasy, Jack is not taking his armor off, he's transforming into his Chaos form, just like he did once he finished his monologue in the original game.
@@aldiascholarofthefirstsin1051 I see what you're talking about, and I know when this event is. I feel like we're comparing this too much to the original FF1, though. After all, there still isn't a good enough line between both timelines. Like, if this was his actual Chaos battle, I kind of would be expecting him to teleport them all to Station 19 after singling WoL out and then start fighting, and then when he turns back to say "I look forward to doing this again in two thousand years." let his image shift from Jack to Chaos. But I understand now, thanks for clarifying.
I couldn't stop thinking: "Man I really want to love this, but I just can't..." (Talking both about the Game, and this Fight). Hype & Nostalgia-lenses are the only things keepin' this game moving forward.
I like it how they reused Wol's Dissidia NT Model, because rhere NT Models are cool now a days. I hope they reuse ir on future spin offs or something.
1:06 caked up! WHEW
i'd have liked to see this fight more dynamic, i see wol combat style so slow, idk if it's only my perception, maybe the ia should have been set up better
Question, Does he willingly go back in time 2000 years to wait for them and do the warriors actually grow stronger with each encounter even though they lose?
Warrior of Light 😭
That weird moment where you are the final boss of the game xd
Feels good
Like in FF14 where Our WoL is the Final Boss to WoL Elidibus. XDDDDDDD
@@sephirothcrescent5768 To the point where he uses LB4. What a mad lad.
Sigma move.