Shax getting so excited about Migleemo's offer of therapy was my favorite moment. I love how he never fails to subvert the toxic masculinity / bottling up your feelings stereotype.
Sort of a double subversion in the moment, through Migleemo recognizing the best way to get Shax into therapy for his extra-level PTSD is to frame it as providing him better weapons and combat techniques for his fight against his traumas (on top of Shax being receptive to his offer in general). You know, since you'd assume a counselor like Migleemo wouldn't use violent or aggressive imagery to frame mental health treatments.
Just to add further evidence to the case for Shax being the best security officer in Starfleet: He even manages to help defend the ship whilst in a meditative trance and confronting the spectre of his own trauma.
I am really enjoying how unhinged Dr T'Ana is. It's like she knows she is in a show where the medicine is basically magic and can do near anything so she stopped caring. Also her one liner is one of my favorites I've seen in Trek.
Gabrielle Ruiz’s acting is on point! It’s hard to deliver such funny lines with a flat affect. She’s the jokester and the straight man at the same time
What I love the most about Tendi knowing more about Earth's history than Boimler and Rutherford is that I've had a very similar experience before myself where my American friends know less about an American holiday than one of our foreign friends
Those who adapt to another culture when surrounded by it often take a lot of the time to do the research to the point where they know more about it than those who grew up around it. Those who acquire American citizenship later in life are basically required to know more about American civics and history than citizens by birth because they have to take a test. I'm a convert to Judaism and I have to sometimes watch myself talking to other Jews to avoid making them feel insecure for not knowing as many details of Jewish history, philosophy, etc. because they didn't have to take an "Introduction to Judaism" class like I did (but then I'm also a history and philosophy geek in general so I kinda went above and beyond there). It's kind of a universal experience in a world where people of different cultural backgrounds cross paths, adopt new identities, take part in traditions apart from those they grew up with. and so on. So it's wonderful to see that represented in Star Trek, in the spirit of Infinite Diversity in Infinite Combinations, even as what comes off as a side remark.
They did our boy Ransom wrong at the end with the lower decker saying no one would believe her. I guess Alpha shift is the only one who respect him. Maybe that is why those guys are still on Beta and Delta shift The ensign at the end with Billups was the one who asked Boimler for advice because of Ransom a few seasons ago. I also love that T'ana's pain chart is Smiley face and not smiley face.
No Jessie. How could you forget when Mariner mentioned that Boimler dressed up as Pike for Halloween? In front of Pike. Or... did Ransom have such confidence in his lower deckers that he knew they could defeat the invaders?
It was interesting to see a reverse Lower Decks episode and with plenty of references to previous seasons and incarnations of Star Trek. I really chuckled at Westlake's reference to having the hyposprays ready in case people started singing or something. Definite Strange News Worlds reference there. And the Clicket, as the aliens were named, were indeed from an earlier season 1 episode, specifically "Veritas". And Shax's quote was "They're not warriors! They're occupiers!", I believe. As for the Halloween reference, I think you missed "Catspaw" in The Original Series.
@@gearandalthefirst7027 I remembered them because I couldn't get Kurtwood Smith saying "KLIKKIT SHIP TWEERK" out of my head when the episode came out because the words were so funny and it became a vocal stim.
12:15 iirc he didn't say they're not victims, he said they're not warriors, which imo is a lot more meaningful coming from someone like shax. He strikes me as someone who'd honor a fallen warrior even if they were his enemy, so saying they're not warriors denies them that honor
Fun episode! I really liked the concept of following the Upper Deckers. I do agree that Random would have woken up in reality once things got serious (he's quickly becoming my favourite first officer) but I don't have many complaints about this ep. Also nice to see an Australian in Starfleet finally! I knew we had to be there.
I loved the role-reversal, like in a meta way, this episode had. Like this is what the rest of the crew does- and it's so neat seeing the uppers, almost a behind the scenes to it all. Ransom and T'Ana especially.
The funniest part of the Billips storyline of this episode, is that it implies that there was NEVER an Engineering emergency to begin with, but that instead Billips left random Traps and Blinking lights all over his Engineering room to see if any of his subordinates would catch them so he can put them though a gauntlet of engineering "Emergencies" in order to train them for when real ones happen. The clue is that the Guy that shows up to warn him at the end of the episode is reporting on the EXACT Same problem as the woman he was working with for most of the episode. That and how absurd all the tasks they go though that have NOTHING to do with anything we've ever seen relating to Engineering, seriously why does he have a Binar Golem?!(Unless that's just his "Fantasy Planet" variant engineering style showing?)... Also, one Weird detail that seems to have been skipped.... Tendi and T'lin should have been featured in this episode's stories, since they're both technically "Upper Decks" now, as they're both the Bridge Science Officer...
It had not occurred to me before that the Chief Engineer is named Philips. I wonder if that's a reference to Philips tools. That would be a great in-joke. Also, I've never been on a job where the people at the base level didn't think the management didn't do anything. So all of that was hilarious. I think the Philips story was my favorite though.
The Chief Engineer is named Billups, actually. It would be funny if he was named Phillips - after the screwdriver - but the only RL reference I can find is a former NBA player turned coach.
I really loved this episode, and agree as much as i missed the extra time with the Warp Drive 5 it is a bittersweet kinda of appropriate that this episode paying homage to the OG Lower Decks should fall in the last season. I have to say I did kinda gasp when i realised what was going on with Shak's storyline, darker than i was expecting them to go with it! But brilliant and still funny at the same time.
Quite a bit of fun with watching this one which made for a lovely episode to take in during a lunch break. Also loved the reference to those safety rocks we always seen during damage scenes as well. Generally would say they did a great job of tossing out vignette plots that did not need full on episodes dedicated to themselves.
At some point we'll need to have a discussion about the cardassisans that didn't approve of the bajoran occupation (of course there were some), and about the ones that were forced to serve in the occupation forces.
That "occupiers" vs. "victims" line hits hard in the context of current events. Especially when you remember that Ira Behr signed that open letter. I'm proud of the writers and showrunners for getting that line through.
what's to say he isn't and this isn't exactly what a Pah-Wraith is? The Pah is the Bajoran concept of spiritual self or soul, so the Pah-Wraiths might actually be literal soul destroying wraiths that do this to Bajorans with trauma or something.
I was going to comment about the halloween episode coming in december, but remembered that with how studios have been treating people. A month and a week late is nothing. Anyways, f*ing loved T'Ana this episode (I know a bunch of other catgirls that are... very similar XD)
We've actually have had two references to Halloween, in Lower Decks season One episode nine "Crisis Point" Mariner say's to her holographic self how she knows how she use to dress as Toby the Targ for every Halloween and in Strange new worlds season two episode seven "Those Old Scientists" Mariner tell Captain Pike that she doesn't think that Boimler could handle being thrown in the brig by someone that he dressed up as for Halloween.
I can never get behind Freeman episodes. She spent so long as the arrogant ass hole who doesn't care about her crew. Yet starting this season we're suddenly supposed to like her even though she never had any kind of redemption arc.
Great episode. It's a concept i knew they'd do eventually when partway through the first season but not one they could do too early in the run. They pulled it off.
Loved the episode, but Stevens has never been shown to be anything but an unfunny 1-note joke... the reveal that he was looking out for Freeman's happiness was not earned by his characterization prior to this point. Also, Ransom ain't that smart, he just keeps rolling natural 20s.
Who can possibly forget the Binar episode 11001001? Yes, you remembered it right, I had to look it up to get it exactly. But Minuet...She's unforgettable. 😍😍😍😍😍😍
I think the thing that I will forever adore this show for... adding so much absolutely wacky canon that future Star Trek shows will have to fold into their canon as well. The power at their disposal to make the rest of Star Trek bend to their comedy will. Love it to death.
In TNG we never saw the lower decks. So it was interesting. Here, we always see the bridge crew. And go on adventures with them. So it's not anything new. Not that it wasn't a fun episode. But like... We already know a butt load about all these characters and have seen them a lot
I liked the episode I had fun with it. But sadly I‘m a bit sad that this is another time where the overarching plot isn’t addressed. And it was alluded to prior to last weeks episode that there would be some information for the science officers or some like that. But then last week and this week nothing
Okay last week had the data s head from the quantum fissure but that also had no further clues for what is going on so that we could puzzle out why this is happening
I got the idea of what Ransom did but the way he did it made him a bad commander. If this was taken more seriously he would just never be considered for a promotion for being that irresponsible
Best episode of the season. The only the thing that let me down was the technobabble being too babble, skipping attempts at making sense… but it was for comedic effect so it was fine
Apparently, it's a prank...of taking a poop in a toilet's water tank. Or hiding post-wipe toilet paper in available bathroom cabinet or vanity drawers for people to find 😵
“That was set to kill!”
“So am I!!!”
This is the new funniest line in all of Trekdom.
It is! Especially from a cat.
I shouted. What an awesome moment.
Shax getting so excited about Migleemo's offer of therapy was my favorite moment. I love how he never fails to subvert the toxic masculinity / bottling up your feelings stereotype.
I love him.
Sort of a double subversion in the moment, through Migleemo recognizing the best way to get Shax into therapy for his extra-level PTSD is to frame it as providing him better weapons and combat techniques for his fight against his traumas (on top of Shax being receptive to his offer in general). You know, since you'd assume a counselor like Migleemo wouldn't use violent or aggressive imagery to frame mental health treatments.
When the Shax story started I thought it was going to be an explanation of how he came back from the dead after season 1
Just to add further evidence to the case for Shax being the best security officer in Starfleet: He even manages to help defend the ship whilst in a meditative trance and confronting the spectre of his own trauma.
I am really enjoying how unhinged Dr T'Ana is. It's like she knows she is in a show where the medicine is basically magic and can do near anything so she stopped caring.
Also her one liner is one of my favorites I've seen in Trek.
Gabrielle Ruiz’s acting is on point! It’s hard to deliver such funny lines with a flat affect. She’s the jokester and the straight man at the same time
You're just a captain trying to do the best for your crew and I respect that.
What I love the most about Tendi knowing more about Earth's history than Boimler and Rutherford is that I've had a very similar experience before myself where my American friends know less about an American holiday than one of our foreign friends
Those who adapt to another culture when surrounded by it often take a lot of the time to do the research to the point where they know more about it than those who grew up around it. Those who acquire American citizenship later in life are basically required to know more about American civics and history than citizens by birth because they have to take a test. I'm a convert to Judaism and I have to sometimes watch myself talking to other Jews to avoid making them feel insecure for not knowing as many details of Jewish history, philosophy, etc. because they didn't have to take an "Introduction to Judaism" class like I did (but then I'm also a history and philosophy geek in general so I kinda went above and beyond there). It's kind of a universal experience in a world where people of different cultural backgrounds cross paths, adopt new identities, take part in traditions apart from those they grew up with. and so on. So it's wonderful to see that represented in Star Trek, in the spirit of Infinite Diversity in Infinite Combinations, even as what comes off as a side remark.
I think we will all be quoting Mariner at every Trek con from now on. "Ah, bar sweet bar."
They did our boy Ransom wrong at the end with the lower decker saying no one would believe her. I guess Alpha shift is the only one who respect him. Maybe that is why those guys are still on Beta and Delta shift
The ensign at the end with Billups was the one who asked Boimler for advice because of Ransom a few seasons ago.
I also love that T'ana's pain chart is Smiley face and not smiley face.
Shax's way of meditating is the only way I ever want to meditate! Mindfulness punch!
No Jessie. How could you forget when Mariner mentioned that Boimler dressed up as Pike for Halloween? In front of Pike.
Or... did Ransom have such confidence in his lower deckers that he knew they could defeat the invaders?
"Now shut up and rearrange my guts!"
How did that line not get a mention? This was a fun one indeed.
I was sure we'd get through this show without hearing T'Anna purr. I'm very glad I was wrong.
I love the Aussie Engineer.
It was interesting to see a reverse Lower Decks episode and with plenty of references to previous seasons and incarnations of Star Trek. I really chuckled at Westlake's reference to having the hyposprays ready in case people started singing or something. Definite Strange News Worlds reference there. And the Clicket, as the aliens were named, were indeed from an earlier season 1 episode, specifically "Veritas". And Shax's quote was "They're not warriors! They're occupiers!", I believe. As for the Halloween reference, I think you missed "Catspaw" in The Original Series.
The Klikkits were a deep cut from Lower Decks itself. They were in "Veritas" all the way back in season 1.
Ah! I was wondering what was up with that line about, "We've fought you before!"
@@GSBarlev apparently everyone else ALSO forgot XD
@@gearandalthefirst7027 That's just how good at hiding they are, I could never give them enough praise!
@@gearandalthefirst7027 I remembered them because I couldn't get Kurtwood Smith saying "KLIKKIT SHIP TWEERK" out of my head when the episode came out because the words were so funny and it became a vocal stim.
12:15 iirc he didn't say they're not victims, he said they're not warriors, which imo is a lot more meaningful coming from someone like shax. He strikes me as someone who'd honor a fallen warrior even if they were his enemy, so saying they're not warriors denies them that honor
So was this shit happening every time Kira meditated on DS9
Fun episode! I really liked the concept of following the Upper Deckers. I do agree that Random would have woken up in reality once things got serious (he's quickly becoming my favourite first officer) but I don't have many complaints about this ep. Also nice to see an Australian in Starfleet finally! I knew we had to be there.
The best part of Trek “re-canonizing” the Filmation series is that it gave us T’ana. Easily my favorite of the officers on the Cerritos.
Someone commented on Trek Culture's review that T'ana knocking those hypo's off the desk was cat thing.
I loved the role-reversal, like in a meta way, this episode had. Like this is what the rest of the crew does- and it's so neat seeing the uppers, almost a behind the scenes to it all. Ransom and T'Ana especially.
The funniest part of the Billips storyline of this episode, is that it implies that there was NEVER an Engineering emergency to begin with, but that instead Billips left random Traps and Blinking lights all over his Engineering room to see if any of his subordinates would catch them so he can put them though a gauntlet of engineering "Emergencies" in order to train them for when real ones happen. The clue is that the Guy that shows up to warn him at the end of the episode is reporting on the EXACT Same problem as the woman he was working with for most of the episode. That and how absurd all the tasks they go though that have NOTHING to do with anything we've ever seen relating to Engineering, seriously why does he have a Binar Golem?!(Unless that's just his "Fantasy Planet" variant engineering style showing?)...
Also, one Weird detail that seems to have been skipped.... Tendi and T'lin should have been featured in this episode's stories, since they're both technically "Upper Decks" now, as they're both the Bridge Science Officer...
17:48 OY! I fly an Oberth in Star Trek Online, it's very nice.
Jessie's commentary has evolved from "Star Trekian" to "Lower Decksian." Brilliant!
It had not occurred to me before that the Chief Engineer is named Philips. I wonder if that's a reference to Philips tools. That would be a great in-joke. Also, I've never been on a job where the people at the base level didn't think the management didn't do anything. So all of that was hilarious. I think the Philips story was my favorite though.
The Chief Engineer is named Billups, actually.
It would be funny if he was named Phillips - after the screwdriver - but the only RL reference I can find is a former NBA player turned coach.
@@generalilbis OOPS! Darn it. Bad hearing. I even hear jokes that weren't there. LOL.
"I'm an Upper Decker"
Oh no, Jessie is gonna throw 90's baseball cards at us. ... *sigh* I'm old....
Catspaw mentioned Halloween, as did the novel Bloodthirst by JM Dillard (one of my favorites).
I'm pretty sure that they mentioned Halloween, or at least Trick-or-Treating in "Catspaw" on the Original Series.
I really loved this episode, and agree as much as i missed the extra time with the Warp Drive 5 it is a bittersweet kinda of appropriate that this episode paying homage to the OG Lower Decks should fall in the last season. I have to say I did kinda gasp when i realised what was going on with Shak's storyline, darker than i was expecting them to go with it! But brilliant and still funny at the same time.
Quite a bit of fun with watching this one which made for a lovely episode to take in during a lunch break. Also loved the reference to those safety rocks we always seen during damage scenes as well. Generally would say they did a great job of tossing out vignette plots that did not need full on episodes dedicated to themselves.
At some point we'll need to have a discussion about the cardassisans that didn't approve of the bajoran occupation (of course there were some), and about the ones that were forced to serve in the occupation forces.
Actually, theres some great book by Dr. Una McCormack about that.
@jessiegenderafterdark5287 do you remember the title?
That "occupiers" vs. "victims" line hits hard in the context of current events. Especially when you remember that Ira Behr signed that open letter. I'm proud of the writers and showrunners for getting that line through.
@@sergioaccioly5219 I mean, pretty much all of her books about Cardassia do that. Just pick one.
At first, I really thought Shaxs is fighting a Pah-Wraith.
Looked like it, red eyes and all.
what's to say he isn't and this isn't exactly what a Pah-Wraith is? The Pah is the Bajoran concept of spiritual self or soul, so the Pah-Wraiths might actually be literal soul destroying wraiths that do this to Bajorans with trauma or something.
I was going to comment about the halloween episode coming in december, but remembered that with how studios have been treating people. A month and a week late is nothing. Anyways, f*ing loved T'Ana this episode (I know a bunch of other catgirls that are... very similar XD)
We've actually have had two references to Halloween, in Lower Decks season One episode nine "Crisis Point" Mariner say's to her holographic self how she knows how she use to dress as Toby the Targ for every Halloween and in Strange new worlds season two episode seven "Those Old Scientists" Mariner tell Captain Pike that she doesn't think that Boimler could handle being thrown in the brig by someone that he dressed up as for Halloween.
You’re slaying in the thumbnail the lipstick kinda matching the uniform like omg
They leaned into the fourth wall so hard it fell over.
The Doc getting shot scene had me in tears
Junkball Media's ears perked up about the rocks:)
I can never get behind Freeman episodes. She spent so long as the arrogant ass hole who doesn't care about her crew. Yet starting this season we're suddenly supposed to like her even though she never had any kind of redemption arc.
Great episode. It's a concept i knew they'd do eventually when partway through the first season but not one they could do too early in the run. They pulled it off.
Loved the episode, but Stevens has never been shown to be anything but an unfunny 1-note joke... the reveal that he was looking out for Freeman's happiness was not earned by his characterization prior to this point. Also, Ransom ain't that smart, he just keeps rolling natural 20s.
I love the Bughoons!
Who can possibly forget the Binar episode 11001001?
Yes, you remembered it right, I had to look it up to get it exactly.
But Minuet...She's unforgettable. 😍😍😍😍😍😍
Careful, if you say the wrong binary code, you may say the time travel code from Futurama...
I think the thing that I will forever adore this show for... adding so much absolutely wacky canon that future Star Trek shows will have to fold into their canon as well. The power at their disposal to make the rest of Star Trek bend to their comedy will. Love it to death.
Clickits, like Crickets, but they click!
Let's face it Jessie...... this show complete DESTORYS the 4th wall and fucking love it!
Okay, as a non native english speaker, today I learned what an upper decker is, nasty 🖖
As an Australian viewer, all that upper deckers joke does is once again convince me that America really needs to redesign the shape of their toilets.
Well written and very fun episode!
Bagoons felt more like pill-bugs than armadillos.
Bugalo nation, whoop whoop!
In TNG we never saw the lower decks. So it was interesting. Here, we always see the bridge crew. And go on adventures with them. So it's not anything new. Not that it wasn't a fun episode. But like... We already know a butt load about all these characters and have seen them a lot
It’s kinda weird to flip it here when we’ve seen the Bridge Crew so much in the main show itself
18:18 Just keep any anime Japanese school girls away from the tentacles! X_x;;
I liked the episode I had fun with it. But sadly I‘m a bit sad that this is another time where the overarching plot isn’t addressed. And it was alluded to prior to last weeks episode that there would be some information for the science officers or some like that. But then last week and this week nothing
Okay last week had the data s head from the quantum fissure but that also had no further clues for what is going on so that we could puzzle out why this is happening
"Upper Decks" could be a fun sequel title.
My favorite moment was T'Lyn making a joke at the end.
Upper for the upper god!
I got the idea of what Ransom did but the way he did it made him a bad commander. If this was taken more seriously he would just never be considered for a promotion for being that irresponsible
I thought he said they weren't warriors, not that they weren't victims? is my memory wrong?
TOS had a halloween episode
The name of the aliens are Klikkit, I think its spelt.
Closed captions said Clicket
Best episode of the season. The only the thing that let me down was the technobabble being too babble, skipping attempts at making sense… but it was for comedic effect so it was fine
I immediately went to urban dictionary and looked up "upper decker". ew.
Might be stupid, but…what’s the problem of Upper Deckers?
If you have ever had a poop you couldn't flush, that's a Upper Decker
It's not a term I've heard of here in the UK either.
Google it...if you dare!!!
@@DGH-q3b Not only a poop that doesn’t flush - it’s the prank of pooping up in the water tank of the toilet. Which gets rather yucky XD
I'm afraid to ask what an upper decker is.
Apparently, it's a prank...of taking a poop in a toilet's water tank. Or hiding post-wipe toilet paper in available bathroom cabinet or vanity drawers for people to find 😵
“11001001”
cute
Crickets, with an L.
Dunno, I found this episode kinda boring. It did have some good stuff, though.