Ninja 400, RC390 and Yamaha R3 make great track bikes and if you upgrade the suspension and controls, they make amazing track bikes. Hitting wot quickly and the lower risk of high siding really frees up a lot of brain space, which allows you to work on everything else.
Do you recommend getting a tune before trying to take it on track or would stock be able to perform as well. No competitive riding. Just a beginner trying to learn.
Getting a tune is a great upgrade but definitely not a requirement before going to the track. I would suggest spending money on new tires for the track day.
I have a ninja 400 and this is the bike i want to learn riding on the track. I have a question when you downshift I noticed your not rev matching or even coming off the throttle. Is this ok to do on the bike both on the track and street?
I am not familiar with this bike but when I was competing and doing track days before I was forced to quit I had a slipper clutch so I was able to do so and if this bike has one as well that might be why he was doing it. Even without it though you can just start with minor pressure on the gear lever a second before planning your down shift and then just release the throttle very minorly and it will click down but if you are on a bigger bike this can cause a lot of hopping on the back end because you are focing the bike into a gear and rpm range that the road speed is not ready for so it could also be due to this being a lower power bike. Also if you are also going to the ridge here in shelton most of the corners are fairly high speed corners other then turn 10 I think it is right before the back straight which is the tightest corner other then the bus stop at the end of the front straight which wasn't done here the last time I raced here so that is another really slow one I would assume.
I don’t rev match on downshifts.. I just try not to drop multiple gears at once when slowing down. The Ninja 400 clutch is a known weak point on the bike, so it is better not to over stress it.
How would it be in tight twisties street riding? Like Palomar Mountain south grade (southern ca) I am thinking of nuying another bike just for that since it is like my back yard and then maybe try it on a cart tracks? Im just worried it will be such a dog compared to my other bikes that have like 117-165 hp
@@TysonMoto i gotchu. ik it has a slipper clutch so ive done clutchless downshifts once and it worked good just didnt feel as nice. definitely gonna try upshifting next
@@jellomaster5629 yep, but i wonder why. Im in the process of getting my license right now, but having all fingers on the clutch doesnt seem all too comfortable to me
Top speed is like 120mph. They would chase you down quick on the highway. But around town if you could get out of sight and hide. People out run cops on dirt bikes all the time.
TLDR yea but you probably shouldn’t. A big reason people run so often on bikes is because you can just throttle out and break line of sight on straightaways. This bike can’t really do it. It also can’t go off road like a dirt bike.
Glad to hear! I'm converting my 2019 N400 to a track bike. Upgraded to a 1000sx.
Very nice!
Not sure I'll be riding as fast as you... old man syndrome!
Ninja 400, RC390 and Yamaha R3 make great track bikes and if you upgrade the suspension and controls, they make amazing track bikes. Hitting wot quickly and the lower risk of high siding really frees up a lot of brain space, which allows you to work on everything else.
Nice to see videos at the Ridge.
Do you recommend getting a tune before trying to take it on track or would stock be able to perform as well. No competitive riding. Just a beginner trying to learn.
Getting a tune is a great upgrade but definitely not a requirement before going to the track. I would suggest spending money on new tires for the track day.
I have a ninja 400 and this is the bike i want to learn riding on the track. I have a question when you downshift I noticed your not rev matching or even coming off the throttle. Is this ok to do on the bike both on the track and street?
I am not familiar with this bike but when I was competing and doing track days before I was forced to quit I had a slipper clutch so I was able to do so and if this bike has one as well that might be why he was doing it. Even without it though you can just start with minor pressure on the gear lever a second before planning your down shift and then just release the throttle very minorly and it will click down but if you are on a bigger bike this can cause a lot of hopping on the back end because you are focing the bike into a gear and rpm range that the road speed is not ready for so it could also be due to this being a lower power bike. Also if you are also going to the ridge here in shelton most of the corners are fairly high speed corners other then turn 10 I think it is right before the back straight which is the tightest corner other then the bus stop at the end of the front straight which wasn't done here the last time I raced here so that is another really slow one I would assume.
I don’t rev match on downshifts.. I just try not to drop multiple gears at once when slowing down. The Ninja 400 clutch is a known weak point on the bike, so it is better not to over stress it.
@@TysonMoto thank you for the advice!!
How would it be in tight twisties street riding? Like Palomar Mountain south grade (southern ca) I am thinking of nuying another bike just for that since it is like my back yard and then maybe try it on a cart tracks? Im just worried it will be such a dog compared to my other bikes that have like 117-165 hp
how r u shifting? i see u let off theottle but no clutch work
If you quickly let off the throttle you can do clutch less upshifts. Still clutching for downshifts though.
@@TysonMoto i gotchu. ik it has a slipper clutch so ive done clutchless downshifts once and it worked good just didnt feel as nice. definitely gonna try upshifting next
@@lukefulcher3277 upshifting is so much easier and smoother
@@TysonMotocan you clutchless upshift on fully stock ninja 400
@@mattbain5733 Of course. Work on your timing and you won't have to use the clutch at all except for first gear
Why would you use 4 fingers for the clutch? Two fingers is adequate and you could 1 finger this bike easy.
And learn to rev match while braking.
They teach you to use 4 fingers in europe
@@jellomaster5629 yep, but i wonder why. Im in the process of getting my license right now, but having all fingers on the clutch doesnt seem all too comfortable to me
@@rizen3467 Just do what the school tells you, pass the test and forget about it🤷
That what I did.
Many training courses insist that using 4 fingers for the clutch helps with fatigue in the long run.
Where is this location bro?
The Ridge Motorsports Park in Shelton, WA
could this dust the cops theoretically of course
No
@@uncleartaxyes, been there done that
Depends. In the twisties? With a good rider? Perhaps. On the highway? They would have a hard time outrunning a Corolla…
Top speed is like 120mph.
They would chase you down quick on the highway.
But around town if you could get out of sight and hide.
People out run cops on dirt bikes all the time.
TLDR yea but you probably shouldn’t. A big reason people run so often on bikes is because you can just throttle out and break line of sight on straightaways. This bike can’t really do it. It also can’t go off road like a dirt bike.
Cool !
Fast enough for what?