Brandon J yeah that’s true. The multiverse and characters are cool but Netherrealm needs to add a bit more maps and maybe a little more fun things as well
The release of guest characters really hurt the game (especially Raiden) and the Ninja Turtles release will be eclipsed by DBZ fighterz which is a really amazing game.
To me it’s not dead, I’ve been playing Injustice 2 ever since it was released and I was addicted to it. The gear system was the most innovative thing in the fighting game. I’ve been collecting all kinds of gear for each character and I kept coming back. Can’t wait to play as the Ninja Turtles soon.
The inclusion of gear was incredible, but making it appear random for every character through mother boxes was not smart in my opinion. It feels like unnecessary padding. The chance of getting gear of a certain character grew slim as DLC characters were revealed 1 by 1 and being like 1/35 and completely random sucks to be honest. The addition was great, how it was implemented not so much. Like for example, I know people that took them like 5 or 6 months to get the staff of Grayson. Do you think that is fair?
I love the multiverse. When it takes a long time to beat that boss that beats your ass 20 times and you finally win is awesome. That's how I learned the most about what is safe, when it's your turn and to punish unsafe stuff. The computer does not 2nd guess itself, it's just unrelenting pressure. But I don't care about getting beat non-stop I just want to get better.
Lack of stages can also kill a game. We would like new stages because seeing the same ones over and over is boring. Street Fighter constantly adds new stages characters and costumes throughout the year.
antoineedmundson21 Me too. The only features I remember the maps having that I liked were the carnival map's, well, carnival remix of the theme, and how there was that creepy humming in Slaughter Swamp's music. Everything else seems exchangeable.
As much as I like Injustice 2 I've personally come to the point where I only play the game when new DLC characters are released. Even then I'll spend a day or two leveling up those characters and then leave the game alone. Basically, I'm ready for Mortal Kombat XI.
I think guest characters really hurt I2 (especially Raiden), how it was really zoning heavy at the start, how unfair the player matches are due to incredible abilities, how random the gear you want for a specific character feels like padding. And now the release of DBZ fighters just trumps any attempt of the Ninja Turtles rejuvenating Injustice 2.
Not as dead as Marvel Infinite is or will be thats for sure now that Dragon Ball Fighterz is out. After all there's still Season 3 to look forward too for Injustice 2
Couldn’t disagree more man. A normal player playing as Deadshot doesn’t go the same way as a pro player playing Deadshot. This is the greatest super hero fighting since MvC2.
Tru_Ambassador understandable. Now I'll admit that i use both raiden and subzero regularly. On that point, i don't knock anyone who likes guests. I'd just rather see less of them
Also getting the same gear over and over is annoying, all the characters and still so many uncompleted gear sets that's missing 1-2 pieces and mind you I was playing everyday since day one. I finally received billionaire cowl Dec 31 2017. Same multiverse and same stages makes it very repetitive and being that it's 8-9 months into it it's Dying for sure
Fighting games have limited mechanics, so it's mostly just doing the same thing in different ways until you get bored. Some fighting games try to make it as entertaining as possible (like how Injustice 2 introduced Gear and leveling) meanwhile some just don't really try and all it is is a few towers and a victory screen. Good fighting games tend to keep players around for nearly a year. While not so good ones only last a few months
Good fighting games would always have massive replay value, that’s why people are still playing KOF98. But games like Injustice are too slow pace and it gets boring over time. I think, if NetherRealm is planning on making an Injustice 3 they should focus on making the gameplay much faster and close combat instead of catering to projectile characters and nerfing the characters that counter them (Catwomen).
The thing is, that fighting games in general usually imo don't hold up as well as other genres. I guess it's because fighting games tend to become repetitive more easily, comparing to rpg's and shooters. Netherrealm should consider mixing it up a bit, like adding an open world conquest mode or something like that.
To a casual audience, I see what you're saying. Only so many times Batman can punch Superman in the face with it feeling new. But to the competitive audience, this couldn't be further from the truth. Fighting games have a ton of replay value for competitive players, perhaps more than any other genre, because of the exceptionally high skill ceilings and evolving metas. The issue is they're hard to monetize, because casuals don't play for long and it's hard to incorporate any sort of microtransaction or DLC system long term and make it not sound like the scummiest thing ever. So studios need to release new games to keep the money flowing and casuals buying, even if the previous iteraton was nowhere close to dead competitively.
MrGameAndToy I totally agree with you in this aspect, for hardcore fans, fighting games have great replayability because there's always new tech and meta developing, however the thing that happens is that the competitive player base it's just a small percentage of the community so that's why less players seem to be playing the game, I think it's a natural process for fighting games to have less and less players over the months
I just don't like how much they censored some of the fighters, but overall this game has so much to offer. More than any other fighting game. The story is amazing and way better than any of the movies.
Dragon Ball fighterz has just stolen the hype. So it's not dead and I guarantee if I go online I'll definitely find players we'll see when season 3 happens or when Ninja Turtles happens
I feel Mortal Kombat died slower due to it being more popular. But the number one thing killing the game is lack of stages. Fighting in the same area is boring after a while. On top of that, I feel that there's nothing really to bring people back after the hype wore off. Where ass street fighter V for example is constantly bringing new stages, characters, costumes. And things like that, that are bringing people back even though it started off sloppy
I think Injustice 2 tried a lot of new things, and was testing the waters. It tried things and made mistakes but it had a lot of really good ideas that in the future will be perfected
taste /tāst/noun To try or test the flavor or quality of (something) To perceive or distinguish the flavor of: taste the wine in a sauce. To have or get experience, especially a slight experience. To perceive in any way. Archaic - to enjoy or appreciate. To examine by touch; feel. To test or try. So technically speaking, I do taste games
I can certainly understand what you're saying. I don't think it's dead as patching as helped a lot, but yeah, I think a lot of people are up for the next new fighter (whether it's DBZ or another MK game.)
I feel like NR games die out pretty quickly. You have that rush when they come out then it's over. Then they try to pull people back in with XL editions, KOMPLETE editions and everything else. I was ok with 1 MK character here. Raiden alone would have been fine. I'm worried about MK 11 maybe having Joker or Bane. I don't play Injustice or MKX online anymore.
See, it's not Netherrealm specifically. Fighting games in general don't last long in regards to playability. There's limited mechanics so they have to try to make it last as long as they can before they end up working on a sequel or a different title. Some of the better ones like MK and Street Fighter tend to last nearly a year meanwhile shittier ones like MvC Infinite barely last a few months.
Injustice isn't dead. Most of what you say is what happens with fighting games. Capcom has done most of the negative points you've included. New fighting game titles that don't carry old franchise prestige from the 90s struggle. I think this game is far from dead and that's ok. WE'RE IN A GOLDEN AGE OF FIGHTING GAMES RIGHT NOW. other fighting games like tekken 7, sfv ae, marvel infinite, and dbfz dropped after this game. I think injustice is a good game.
Imo and in my experience it's the gear system that killed the game for me. What also killed the game for me was that with almost each update the "ai intelligence improved" became a pain because the ai became a pain to fight. Yeah the ai in mkx read your inputs but that game's ai was tolerable. What also killed the game for me was saying the phrase "git gud" to newcommers but that's just my nitpick. Then there was that update that wiped gear...that made me quit the game for a while. I try to keep comming back to play the game but dammit do I despise the gear system. I just want Mk11 now and I hope nrs learns from their mistakes and not take a step backwards.
Marterez_ZQ I'd almost want to wipe the gear just so I could get everyone on an even level, but I've spent over a million credits on each of the two profiles I play on.
MK11 but not because I think it's dead or anything but I just don't want anymore packs cause MK11 is most likely coming the middle of next year so yeah they need to make sure it's perfect
Super Serg it's not the game of the year but it's the fighting game of the year for 2018 2018 for fighting games: dragon ball fighterz 2017 for fighting games: Injustice 2 Marvel vs Capcom was a flop you don't hear about it anymore.
I don't think its dead yet, it has the potential to go on a little longer. However, I do think that its momentum is starting to run out, which is only natural. Even with the addition of new characters, there is only so much a game can do. With the controversy of DLC and the desire for a new MK game, it is only a matter of time before resources and attention are shifted away from updating Injustice 2 and put to other games. However, this is not a bad thing, as Injustice 2 was a good game that had a good run, and if there is a chance for an Injustice 3, then I doubt they will pass on it and it will benefit from all the advances the makers will learn creating other games.
Let's be honest, you'd rather have spawn in MK rather than Injustice. I get that you wanted him pretty bad since he was (still is) a heavily requested in MKX but at the same time, in my opinion he fits more in an MK game rather than injustice. Hopefully we can in MK11 or it WILL be a let down :D
People who actually read the comics enjoys playing Injustice 2, Grinding for gears or participating in the Multiverse event etc. But there're the other half which are "casual let's try if this does not suck players". The point is that you can't get the overall feel if you do not have the idea or knowledge about the characters or the happenings on why it's called Injustice 2. Most of them just knew Batman, Sups the well known ones. Unlike the Dragonballz fighterZ, it's part of the childhood sort of effect. Injustice 2 is too mature of a game. And MvCI is a overly hyped Flappybird that just died off. And the stupidest part is when a popular someone suddenly say the game just Died. There's that psychologically bandwagon effect that diverts their attention. Just the hype is over, Dead is another topic.
It died when they revealed the TMNT. It died to me when I realized that almost half of the DLC is stuff that no one asked for. It died when they decided to not listen to the droves of players who said Character A is underpowered, and Character B is overpowered.
I play Injustice 2 all the time. This game got me back into the FGC after 15 years out. Since injustice 2 I have bought 6 fighting games. Tekken 7, SFV, SF4, Dragon ball fighterZ, MKX and even MvC infinite but let's not talk about that one since I almost requit the FGC after playing it.
When Injustice 2 first was released, I was really looking forward to Spawn being a dlc character. I held out for months hoping he would make it into the game. Now that we're about to get the last dlc, I feel like I waited for nothing.
The only argument I agree with here is Deadshot. He did slow down the game a lot. But it was nothing game breaking and most people found ways around it. The other arguments about a character having too much damage and players finding and exploiting glitches is just unfair. Every fighting game ever released has had some problems with characters, damage and glitches when it was first released. And the developers have already addressed these problems. That's just unfair to complain about fixed problems. Tekken 7, SFV, MVCI, MKX had their problems on release and I can guarantee the same will happen with DBFZ when players flesh out the game more. So to say Injustice 2 is dead for these reasons is simply unfair. I'm not hating at all, but that's not fair to argue about when every fighting game has these problems. And also I don't believe the game is dead. People still play MKX to this day. Injustice has its own set of fans that will still play it even after MK11 is released. Including me. I love MK and Tekken as well, just so everyone knows
Yeeah TBH that thing about Deadshot is not rare in any fighting game. People consider MVC 2 to be the greatest fighting game of all time, but the infamous combo with the three spam masters of the game is broken beyond belief. Also, there are a bunch of videos out about the most broken fighting game characters and a quite few of those characters where in the fighting games people consider it to be the best of all time.
DarkGodOf Eldritch Exactly. Thank you. Every fighting game has had literally the exact same problems mentioned in this video. Some of which are praised by so many. As for injustice 2, none of these (past) problems made the game dead to me and thousands of other players. Like I said before, I'm not hating, but these were unfair arguments against the game.
I was fine with Sub-Zero as a guest character, but I not happy that Raiden, Hellboy and TMNT were taking spots that should have gone to actual DC Characters... If NetherRealm really wanted to do a guest fighter pack that we could have paid for separately, I would have been fine with that... The thing about Injustice 2 that bugs me is the Mother Boxes and gear system... I hate "loot boxes" and got sick of them very quickly, and the gear system sounds good on paper, but I don't think really works...
I think one huge problem with the game is the release dates of the dlc. It's kind off ridiculous that it's been almost a year, and it's not all out yet. I'm not big on fighting games, so that's led me to play it less. I basically got it for the story mode and arcade ladders. I've downloaded all the dlc since I got the season pass, but I don't think over played it since Raiden was released.
Personally, I'm tired of grinding for two different accounts since its release. I only got on level 2 for Enchantress on one account before the fatigue set in.
I love Injustice 2 but I think it's just going through normal fighting game phases. 1) Lots of hype around it when it comes out. 2) DLC characters release hyping the game a little more. 3) Months go by and the game loses hype. 4) A new fighting game comes out taking the crowd away.
Personally, I don’t really mind the slower speed of Injustice. It gives me a chance to perform combos at a nice, even pace compared to a gam like Marvel vs. Capcom (Even though that game is awesome as well). Not to mention that the buttons feel easier to memorize. It’s not Light Punch, Heavy Kick, Medium Punch, Heavy Kick. It’s Light, Medium, Heavy and Trait.
Before Injustice 2 released I was tweeting Ed Boon and begging him for a RUN mechanic in the game...! Had only he included that I feel that the pacing in Injustice 2 would have been even better.
If you could use gear abilities in normal matches and in tournaments it would be way better. And the fighter stats changing with gear was ultimately unsuccessful
it isn't the fact that injustice is dead it's the fact that the community and supports really want things to happen but netherrealm just doesn't listen sometimes and it's to much of a grind for legendary gear and some abilitys but injustice could do one last fighter pack it would probably help but i also do love mk
I don't play I2 or Injustice as a whole aside from the story mode and to see the characters interact and have been waiting for MK11 since after Hellboy dropped, so I feel like I'm the last person who should comment on I2. I am, however, curious about the TMNT, so I guess I'm okay with I2 staying around in that regard.
Uncle Herbert Yes. After both dlc packs it kinda felt like the game continued to get slower and slower and when hell boy was finally released he played like something between a turtle and a sea urchin.
Honestly injustice 2 was the biggest game I was hyped for ever but after like a month I got bored and I haven’t picked it up since until I heard about the ninja turtles now I’m exited again so if they keep doing stuff like that it will survive
The bad DLC chrctrs & heavy spamming/zoning is what turned the game off for most players but not necessarily killed the game. Also way too many guest chrctrs who basically replaced good & highly requested DC chrctrs that should've been in the game.
The problem is with Netherrealm games recently is that they tend to have short lifespans imo. Injustice 2 is not much dead, more or less some people have lost interest in it.
Honestly, I get tired of evil Superman and Wonder Woman. I'm sure I'm not the only person who would at least like the option to play as the good Superman, Wonder Woman, etc., especially those who are coming to this game after watching their movies.
LordNifty I think a better story idea than the one we got would be having the main universe heroes (not the alt universe we're in right now) getting pulled into a new universe with something cataclysmic going on, and having to save that universe. Evil Supes has gotten really old.
yea I know they need to stick to the comics but that was the reason that I thought injustice 1 had a better story. it made the evil superman seem like hitler, while we still got our normal superman. in injustice 2 it seems like it was a mix of both and like the evil superman forgot everything that had happened in the previous game
I mean to be fair, in MKX they did have what 4 characters that were not in the MK universe, as for it being slow, I think this game has more tactics to look at, MK still does, but there is more to it than that I think. I love the game, very refreshing fighting game, and probably my favorite. MK is easier to play to, from my experience anyway.
Paying extra for characters in the same franchise is manipulative. That's just carving up a game and selling it piecemeal. Guest characters are MORE fair to consumers than having DC characters as DLC.
Honestly I love injustice 2 and I enjoyed all DLC characters included so far and am especially hype for TMNT but I have gotten kind of bored of it at this point. That being said though I am more of an MK fan than an injustice fan even though I love DC, but I want MK11 or MK Shaolin Monks 2 or anything MK really
I liked how mkx played better. I like the stamina in mkx where injustice 2 just doesn't have that and I like the rounds instead of what they do in injustice. The only thing I like more in injustice 2 is the characters are cooler for me.
The defensive meta that quickly arised in the early days of this game lost all of my interest. Playing against zoning characters is not fun to do or watch, and as a result of the zoning heavy meta my interest in the game faded fast. Hope MK11 will deliver where I2 just couldn't for me, but I'm sure it will since MK games haven't really had too many problems with pacing in the past, whereas both injustice titles are plagued by projectile spam. If I wanted to have a gun shot at me 24/7 in my video game, I'd play COD
This shit game didn't deserve fighter of the year, Tekken did. However it was fated that it win that award due to NetherRealm games being popular with casuals.
I personally like Mortal Kombat for 3 reasons, the pace, blocking, and combos. I prefer the up close combat of MK and it is a lot more fun in my opinion then the slow pace. I HATE back to block, it is fucking annoying because it makes certain strategies really fucking annoying, teleports are really hard to block because you have to move your finger ALL the way to the other side. Finally combos, combos in MKX are long and fun as it is very lenient in a lot of cases, but the main reason is meter, to do any sort of combo in Injustice, you need to start with meter which I don’t like as it limits combos. Most combos HAVE to have a back 3 or Forward 3 to actually do damage as well. These factors just make it less fun to me
I haven't played this game since Thanksgiving weekend, I love it but it really was all the same just keep doing multiverse missions until the end of time honestly
if netherealm has not started development yet, then MK11 is gonna be long way away. unless i’m unfamiliar with how short fighting game development is...
I like the characters from MK a lot! The universe is so much better, the storyline is more intriguing. I've been playing MK since the first one and i can say I am a die fan. But, even though i dislike DC characters, I think that the Injustice 2 gameplay is 1000 times better then MK. I just love everything related to gameplay
Mmm... Well I disagree with some points, mostly in the balance aspect of the game cause all games suffer the same issue... If your talking from a ultra casual player point of view, well deadshot will make them quit the game... But for everyone else it wasn't a game breaking problem... I think the issue is set on the upcoming fighting games as the audience tend to shift depending on the hype .. like right now everyone is playing DBZF making the rest of the games look that they are loosing their audience. As no real fighting game right now is dead. Injustice is strong in tournaments, SF reign supreme as expected, DBZF is the new awesome kid on the block, Tekken has its die hard fans that don't abandon the game... So yeah. The only thing dead right now is MvC infinite, that game was born dead.
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Not dead, but I do think the hype for it is over.
ShaunTheCHB yea
I second this ....it too much time in between dlc characters and even so after that what’s next?
Brandon J yeah that’s true. The multiverse and characters are cool but Netherrealm needs to add a bit more maps and maybe a little more fun things as well
ShaunTheCHB Yeah.
The release of guest characters really hurt the game (especially Raiden) and the Ninja Turtles release will be eclipsed by DBZ fighterz which is a really amazing game.
To me it’s not dead, I’ve been playing Injustice 2 ever since it was released and I was addicted to it. The gear system was the most innovative thing in the fighting game. I’ve been collecting all kinds of gear for each character and I kept coming back. Can’t wait to play as the Ninja Turtles soon.
Mythical Nerd thought the gear system was fantastic. I've played constantly since it came out
after getting most all the gear you can get it leaves nothing left to strive for
To me I2 is a really great game but the player base is so dead. I find only 50 players in rooms. Whereas mk was like 90 to 100 player.
The inclusion of gear was incredible, but making it appear random for every character through mother boxes was not smart in my opinion. It feels like unnecessary padding. The chance of getting gear of a certain character grew slim as DLC characters were revealed 1 by 1 and being like 1/35 and completely random sucks to be honest. The addition was great, how it was implemented not so much.
Like for example, I know people that took them like 5 or 6 months to get the staff of Grayson. Do you think that is fair?
I love the multiverse. When it takes a long time to beat that boss that beats your ass 20 times and you finally win is awesome. That's how I learned the most about what is safe, when it's your turn and to punish unsafe stuff. The computer does not 2nd guess itself, it's just unrelenting pressure. But I don't care about getting beat non-stop I just want to get better.
Lack of stages can also kill a game. We would like new stages because seeing the same ones over and over is boring. Street Fighter constantly adds new stages characters and costumes throughout the year.
antoineedmundson21 Oh yes, the stages for I2 get so DULL.
But they’re all paid
Blake Gilbert exactly stages gives life to the game
Weeaboo I wouldn't mind paying 2-3 dollars for new stages tbh.. or a stage pack at least
antoineedmundson21 Me too. The only features I remember the maps having that I liked were the carnival map's, well, carnival remix of the theme, and how there was that creepy humming in Slaughter Swamp's music. Everything else seems exchangeable.
As much as I like Injustice 2 I've personally come to the point where I only play the game when new DLC characters are released. Even then I'll spend a day or two leveling up those characters and then leave the game alone. Basically, I'm ready for Mortal Kombat XI.
Josh Hardy I feel it's an amazing game tho I'm trying to get back into it i love it
yea i feel you i only play the game when the dlcs are released and lvl them up to 20 and stop playing
Josh Hardy Same here. I wish they included an MK-style "Test Your Luck" mode (Which they already had the assets to do!)
Josh Hardy honestly as much as I love the game I feel the exact same
I think guest characters really hurt I2 (especially Raiden), how it was really zoning heavy at the start, how unfair the player matches are due to incredible abilities, how random the gear you want for a specific character feels like padding. And now the release of DBZ fighters just trumps any attempt of the Ninja Turtles rejuvenating Injustice 2.
I like Injustice 2, but I would like for Mortal Kombat 11 to going development after the last DLC character is released.
Not as dead as Marvel Infinite is or will be thats for sure now that Dragon Ball Fighterz is out. After all there's still Season 3 to look forward too for Injustice 2
wait Marvel released a game? Is it Lego marvel superheros 3?
Super Serg lol
What is Mahvel ? 😐
Alexx196 Z When's Mahvel?
whens ego the living planet going to be a character
Couldn’t disagree more man. A normal player playing as Deadshot doesn’t go the same way as a pro player playing Deadshot. This is the greatest super hero fighting since MvC2.
Chris Roberts the pros did make deadshot look very bad. His combo ability is actually decent.
I would personally love to see them move onto MK11
Some Guy Same
It will never die for me
Piemaster927 it will never pie for you
Piemaster927 same
Same that is my favorite fighting game ever i will never quit
Sooooooo....has it died for you yet?
I want MK 11 with a lot of the 3D fighters.
MegaGamez52 I agree with you, but a lot of them need to be heavily revamped, more to their back story and a lot of work on their special moves
Zane Girard yea true
ew, no
3d murdered the franchise thats why they rebooted with orginal 2d characters.
MK_jizzy not the game play you idiot the characters also aerial combat
Can they just announce Injustice 3 already, like I can't wait
Nah. Not dead. But they are overdoing it with the guest characters. Too much to ask for a dc game to just have dc characters.
Markus Walker like who? Every guest character has some kind of arc or interacted with the DC universe
Tru_Ambassador doesn't mean that gets a pass. Too many Guests are a problem. Just like it was in mkx
Markus Walker word I actually forgot about the mk guests. I thought hellboy was pretty cool addition but I'm kinda biased towards him lol
Tru_Ambassador understandable. Now I'll admit that i use both raiden and subzero regularly. On that point, i don't knock anyone who likes guests. I'd just rather see less of them
Markus Walker fair enough.
Also getting the same gear over and over is annoying, all the characters and still so many uncompleted gear sets that's missing 1-2 pieces and mind you I was playing everyday since day one. I finally received billionaire cowl Dec 31 2017. Same multiverse and same stages makes it very repetitive and being that it's 8-9 months into it it's Dying for sure
Jayanile Jackson What's annoying is playing "catch up" with the DLC characters.
Fighting games have limited mechanics, so it's mostly just doing the same thing in different ways until you get bored.
Some fighting games try to make it as entertaining as possible (like how Injustice 2 introduced Gear and leveling) meanwhile some just don't really try and all it is is a few towers and a victory screen.
Good fighting games tend to keep players around for nearly a year. While not so good ones only last a few months
Justa Person I wish they added a "Test Your Luck" mode to this game. That'd really help with the replay value.
Good fighting games would always have massive replay value, that’s why people are still playing KOF98. But games like Injustice are too slow pace and it gets boring over time. I think, if NetherRealm is planning on making an Injustice 3 they should focus on making the gameplay much faster and close combat instead of catering to projectile characters and nerfing the characters that counter them (Catwomen).
I'm ready for MK 11 still like Injustice 2 but it feels like it's been too long in between MKX and MK 11.
Not dead. But MK11 is much wanted over this game for sure.
I don't really think it's dead... But its not exactly aging amazingly
The thing is, that fighting games in general usually imo don't hold up as well as other genres. I guess it's because fighting games tend to become repetitive more easily, comparing to rpg's and shooters. Netherrealm should consider mixing it up a bit, like adding an open world conquest mode or something like that.
finnishmetalfreak i would love a shaolin monks II
To a casual audience, I see what you're saying. Only so many times Batman can punch Superman in the face with it feeling new. But to the competitive audience, this couldn't be further from the truth. Fighting games have a ton of replay value for competitive players, perhaps more than any other genre, because of the exceptionally high skill ceilings and evolving metas. The issue is they're hard to monetize, because casuals don't play for long and it's hard to incorporate any sort of microtransaction or DLC system long term and make it not sound like the scummiest thing ever. So studios need to release new games to keep the money flowing and casuals buying, even if the previous iteraton was nowhere close to dead competitively.
MrGameAndToy I totally agree with you in this aspect, for hardcore fans, fighting games have great replayability because there's always new tech and meta developing, however the thing that happens is that the competitive player base it's just a small percentage of the community so that's why less players seem to be playing the game, I think it's a natural process for fighting games to have less and less players over the months
I just don't like how much they censored some of the fighters, but overall this game has so much to offer. More than any other fighting game. The story is amazing and way better than any of the movies.
I love guest characters. TMNT, Raiden, and Hellboy were really cool additions. Fun crossover stuff.
Dragon Ball fighterz has just stolen the hype. So it's not dead and I guarantee if I go online I'll definitely find players we'll see when season 3 happens or when Ninja Turtles happens
I feel Mortal Kombat died slower due to it being more popular. But the number one thing killing the game is lack of stages. Fighting in the same area is boring after a while. On top of that, I feel that there's nothing really to bring people back after the hype wore off. Where ass street fighter V for example is constantly bringing new stages, characters, costumes. And things like that, that are bringing people back even though it started off sloppy
I think Injustice 2 tried a lot of new things, and was testing the waters. It tried things and made mistakes but it had a lot of really good ideas that in the future will be perfected
Unfortunately Netherrealm games have been dying too quickly for my taste
SMILE SWEET SISTER SADISTIC SERVICE STARS well it is made in the nether realm soooo
taste /tāst/noun
To try or test the flavor or quality of (something)
To perceive or distinguish the flavor of: taste the wine in a sauce.
To have or get experience, especially a slight experience.
To perceive in any way.
Archaic - to enjoy or appreciate.
To examine by touch; feel.
To test or try.
So technically speaking, I do taste games
SMILE SWEET SISTER SADISTIC SERVICE STARS does it taste delicious?
SMILE SWEET SISTER SADISTIC SERVICE STARS because it's the same thing over and over :(
RajOfColumbus Tastier then your moma.
I can certainly understand what you're saying. I don't think it's dead as patching as helped a lot, but yeah, I think a lot of people are up for the next new fighter (whether it's DBZ or another MK game.)
I feel like NR games die out pretty quickly. You have that rush when they come out then it's over. Then they try to pull people back in with XL editions, KOMPLETE editions and everything else. I was ok with 1 MK character here. Raiden alone would have been fine. I'm worried about MK 11 maybe having Joker or Bane. I don't play Injustice or MKX online anymore.
See, it's not Netherrealm specifically. Fighting games in general don't last long in regards to playability. There's limited mechanics so they have to try to make it last as long as they can before they end up working on a sequel or a different title. Some of the better ones like MK and Street Fighter tend to last nearly a year meanwhile shittier ones like MvC Infinite barely last a few months.
Dinkolish Ed Boon said that he will never put DC characters in a MK game. I think we will get Michael Myers, Ash Williams, Spawn, Terminator in MK11
Boogeyman 1320 -> Spawn is DC character xd
Wuj0 - The Man, The Myth, The Legend. No he is not he is owned by Image comics check for yourself
Boogeyman 1320 -> sorry then
Injustice isn't dead. Most of what you say is what happens with fighting games. Capcom has done most of the negative points you've included.
New fighting game titles that don't carry old franchise prestige from the 90s struggle. I think this game is far from dead and that's ok. WE'RE IN A GOLDEN AGE OF FIGHTING GAMES RIGHT NOW. other fighting games like tekken 7, sfv ae, marvel infinite, and dbfz dropped after this game. I think injustice is a good game.
I like your opinion HBW, I hate people whining about guest characters
Imo and in my experience it's the gear system that killed the game for me. What also killed the game for me was that with almost each update the "ai intelligence improved" became a pain because the ai became a pain to fight. Yeah the ai in mkx read your inputs but that game's ai was tolerable. What also killed the game for me was saying the phrase "git gud" to newcommers but that's just my nitpick.
Then there was that update that wiped gear...that made me quit the game for a while. I try to keep comming back to play the game but dammit do I despise the gear system.
I just want Mk11 now and I hope nrs learns from their mistakes and not take a step backwards.
Marterez_ZQ I'd almost want to wipe the gear just so I could get everyone on an even level, but I've spent over a million credits on each of the two profiles I play on.
I don't think it's dead personally. I just think the hype has died down
MK11 but not because I think it's dead or anything but I just don't want anymore packs cause MK11 is most likely coming the middle of next year so yeah they need to make sure it's perfect
I really doubt most fighting games will keep up with Dragon Ball fighter Z. Like so far it is game of the year and best fighting game.
Super Serg meh
well i exaggerated, but i really don't see any other game
Super Serg it's not the game of the year but it's the fighting game of the year for 2018
2018 for fighting games: dragon ball fighterz
2017 for fighting games:
Injustice 2
Marvel vs Capcom was a flop you don't hear about it anymore.
Vincent Typhoon hmm true let's hope it isn't a flop like marvel vs capcom.
We are barely on January and you alreathy think its game of the year? It is really good but we still have Spiderman PS4, the avengers game and more
I subscribed and hit the bell
I think this comment was meant for Infinite Lists
Kind of... As DBZF and SFV AE just arrive.. the game is slowly getting on a secondary role.
I’m kinda bored of injustice 2 atom kinda sucked and I haven’t played entantress I find that the game can get boring even though it’s a good game
Darth golden freddy Gaming yeah you right
I wanna see evil raiden already
I feel the gear system screwed the game up making it far more tedious then the previous installment.
I just want mk 11
I loved mortal kombat X and I am hyped for 11
We need one more fighter pack And its not dead
I don't think its dead yet, it has the potential to go on a little longer. However, I do think that its momentum is starting to run out, which is only natural. Even with the addition of new characters, there is only so much a game can do. With the controversy of DLC and the desire for a new MK game, it is only a matter of time before resources and attention are shifted away from updating Injustice 2 and put to other games. However, this is not a bad thing, as Injustice 2 was a good game that had a good run, and if there is a chance for an Injustice 3, then I doubt they will pass on it and it will benefit from all the advances the makers will learn creating other games.
I think Dragon Ball Fighterz destory Injustice 2
Injustice 2 will never die
Not until Injustice 3
GOD LIKE not until mk11
GOD LIKE all games will die one day
To-_- Dope-_- 210 not Minecraft
To-_- Dope-_- 210 they will make more they always do
Personally I would prefer fighter pack 0. Still even so this game also it’s predecessor never died with me since I play both games till this day.
I'm unhappy with it atm because I've lost all my gear and haven't got much help from the Developers
all I wanted was spawn and it was a let down!
Let's be honest, you'd rather have spawn in MK rather than Injustice. I get that you wanted him pretty bad since he was (still is) a heavily requested in MKX but at the same time, in my opinion he fits more in an MK game rather than injustice. Hopefully we can in MK11 or it WILL be a let down :D
Vagner Cuna true
People who actually read the comics enjoys playing Injustice 2, Grinding for gears or participating in the Multiverse event etc. But there're the other half which are "casual let's try if this does not suck players". The point is that you can't get the overall feel if you do not have the idea or knowledge about the characters or the happenings on why it's called Injustice 2. Most of them just knew Batman, Sups the well known ones. Unlike the Dragonballz fighterZ, it's part of the childhood sort of effect. Injustice 2 is too mature of a game. And MvCI is a overly hyped Flappybird that just died off.
And the stupidest part is when a popular someone suddenly say the game just Died. There's that psychologically bandwagon effect that diverts their attention.
Just the hype is over, Dead is another topic.
It died when they revealed the TMNT. It died to me when I realized that almost half of the DLC is stuff that no one asked for. It died when they decided to not listen to the droves of players who said Character A is underpowered, and Character B is overpowered.
I play Injustice 2 all the time. This game got me back into the FGC after 15 years out. Since injustice 2 I have bought 6 fighting games. Tekken 7, SFV, SF4, Dragon ball fighterZ, MKX and even MvC infinite but let's not talk about that one since I almost requit the FGC after playing it.
When Injustice 2 first was released, I was really looking forward to Spawn being a dlc character. I held out for months hoping he would make it into the game. Now that we're about to get the last dlc, I feel like I waited for nothing.
spawn has a higher chance in MK11
The only argument I agree with here is Deadshot. He did slow down the game a lot. But it was nothing game breaking and most people found ways around it. The other arguments about a character having too much damage and players finding and exploiting glitches is just unfair. Every fighting game ever released has had some problems with characters, damage and glitches when it was first released. And the developers have already addressed these problems. That's just unfair to complain about fixed problems. Tekken 7, SFV, MVCI, MKX had their problems on release and I can guarantee the same will happen with DBFZ when players flesh out the game more. So to say Injustice 2 is dead for these reasons is simply unfair. I'm not hating at all, but that's not fair to argue about when every fighting game has these problems. And also I don't believe the game is dead. People still play MKX to this day. Injustice has its own set of fans that will still play it even after MK11 is released. Including me. I love MK and Tekken as well, just so everyone knows
Yeeah TBH that thing about Deadshot is not rare in any fighting game. People consider MVC 2 to be the greatest fighting game of all time, but the infamous combo with the three spam masters of the game is broken beyond belief.
Also, there are a bunch of videos out about the most broken fighting game characters and a quite few of those characters where in the fighting games people consider it to be the best of all time.
DarkGodOf Eldritch Exactly. Thank you. Every fighting game has had literally the exact same problems mentioned in this video. Some of which are praised by so many. As for injustice 2, none of these (past) problems made the game dead to me and thousands of other players. Like I said before, I'm not hating, but these were unfair arguments against the game.
Mr.KickAssGamer 95 agree 100%, I wanted to play Deadshot since he was revealed. He did slow the game down but it wasn't enough to ruin it.
I was fine with Sub-Zero as a guest character, but I not happy that Raiden, Hellboy and TMNT were taking spots that should have gone to actual DC Characters... If NetherRealm really wanted to do a guest fighter pack that we could have paid for separately, I would have been fine with that... The thing about Injustice 2 that bugs me is the Mother Boxes and gear system... I hate "loot boxes" and got sick of them very quickly, and the gear system sounds good on paper, but I don't think really works...
yes mk 11 is coming
I think one huge problem with the game is the release dates of the dlc. It's kind off ridiculous that it's been almost a year, and it's not all out yet. I'm not big on fighting games, so that's led me to play it less. I basically got it for the story mode and arcade ladders. I've downloaded all the dlc since I got the season pass, but I don't think over played it since Raiden was released.
Personally, I'm tired of grinding for two different accounts since its release. I only got on level 2 for Enchantress on one account before the fatigue set in.
My problem with injustice 2 is having characters like sub zero and raiden as you can’t do X-rays or fatalities and without them they feel boring
I love Injustice 2 but I think it's just going through normal fighting game phases.
1) Lots of hype around it when it comes out.
2) DLC characters release hyping the game a little more.
3) Months go by and the game loses hype.
4) A new fighting game comes out taking the crowd away.
Personally, I don’t really mind the slower speed of Injustice. It gives me a chance to perform combos at a nice, even pace compared to a gam like Marvel vs. Capcom (Even though that game is awesome as well).
Not to mention that the buttons feel easier to memorize. It’s not Light Punch, Heavy Kick, Medium Punch, Heavy Kick.
It’s Light, Medium, Heavy and Trait.
The one thing NR Studios needs to do is listen to the fan base and add a dlc story.
Mostly but i do think if they included spawn,beast boy and maybe constantine along with red hood starfire and the turtles would have helped a lot
I wouldn’t say dead but the hype is getting over especially sense
Dragon Ball fighterZ just came out and tmnt hasn’t been released yet 👍🏼
Before Injustice 2 released I was tweeting Ed Boon and begging him for a RUN mechanic in the game...! Had only he included that I feel that the pacing in Injustice 2 would have been even better.
on the Deadshot thing, why game developers keep putting bullshit characters in games escapes me
If you could use gear abilities in normal matches and in tournaments it would be way better. And the fighter stats changing with gear was ultimately unsuccessful
it isn't the fact that injustice is dead it's the fact that the community and supports really want things to happen but netherrealm just doesn't listen sometimes and it's to much of a grind for legendary gear and some abilitys but injustice could do one last fighter pack it would probably help but i also do love mk
I don't play I2 or Injustice as a whole aside from the story mode and to see the characters interact and have been waiting for MK11 since after Hellboy dropped, so I feel like I'm the last person who should comment on I2. I am, however, curious about the TMNT, so I guess I'm okay with I2 staying around in that regard.
I’d like to see Netherrealm try something that isn’t a fighting game. See how they do.
I haven't touched the game since hellboy came out. In my opinion his gameplay kinda killed it for me.
i loved hellboy good range character that can go punch for punch with bane and grodd
One character ruins the whole game for you? Okay
Uncle Herbert Yes. After both dlc packs it kinda felt like the game continued to get slower and slower and when hell boy was finally released he played like something between a turtle and a sea urchin.
a character than can jump from side pf the screen to the other is 1.2 seconds is slow
Teshome you sure you didnt just came up with your argument because hbtw said it aswell?
Honestly injustice 2 was the biggest game I was hyped for ever but after like a month I got bored and I haven’t picked it up since until I heard about the ninja turtles now I’m exited again so if they keep doing stuff like that it will survive
The bad DLC chrctrs & heavy spamming/zoning is what turned the game off for most players but not necessarily killed the game. Also way too many guest chrctrs who basically replaced good & highly requested DC chrctrs that should've been in the game.
The problem is with Netherrealm games recently is that they tend to have short lifespans imo. Injustice 2 is not much dead, more or less some people have lost interest in it.
Deadshot isn't the reason it's the inclusion of several mk characters and not listening to the community for the dlc
Honestly, I get tired of evil Superman and Wonder Woman. I'm sure I'm not the only person who would at least like the option to play as the good Superman, Wonder Woman, etc., especially those who are coming to this game after watching their movies.
LordNifty no
LordNifty I think a better story idea than the one we got would be having the main universe heroes (not the alt universe we're in right now) getting pulled into a new universe with something cataclysmic going on, and having to save that universe. Evil Supes has gotten really old.
yea I know they need to stick to the comics but that was the reason that I thought injustice 1 had a better story. it made the evil superman seem like hitler, while we still got our normal superman. in injustice 2 it seems like it was a mix of both and like the evil superman forgot everything that had happened in the previous game
MrGameAndToy so basically a crisis on infinite Earth's situation? Too complicated.
I think Deadshot and the DLC characters as the biggest problems with Injustice 2 is nitpicking.
so when does that tag-team blaze blue come out? I thought people were hyped for that
It was dead the moment they forgot about raven tbh
I mean to be fair, in MKX they did have what 4 characters that were not in the MK universe, as for it being slow, I think this game has more tactics to look at, MK still does, but there is more to it than that I think. I love the game, very refreshing fighting game, and probably my favorite. MK is easier to play to, from my experience anyway.
I haven't played in almost 3 weeks. Probably when Green Arrow gets his hood I'll play again
Paying extra for characters in the same franchise is manipulative. That's just carving up a game and selling it piecemeal. Guest characters are MORE fair to consumers than having DC characters as DLC.
Injustice 2 should have a Animated series and add The Creeper(Jack Ryder) in this game.
Im still playing this game. It’s a fighting games with legs for a while until next entry
Dead or not 😂 I don't care about I2 😂 I am only care about MK 💖💀💖
The games dead cause there balancing suck they made deadshot garbage wont nerf characters like SUPER girl
Honestly I love injustice 2 and I enjoyed all DLC characters included so far and am especially hype for TMNT but I have gotten kind of bored of it at this point. That being said though I am more of an MK fan than an injustice fan even though I love DC, but I want MK11 or MK Shaolin Monks 2 or anything MK really
I liked how mkx played better. I like the stamina in mkx where injustice 2 just doesn't have that and I like the rounds instead of what they do in injustice. The only thing I like more in injustice 2 is the characters are cooler for me.
Source Crystal microtransactions killed this game for me, I refuse to use real life money for in-game currency.
Hopefully a teaser for mk11 will be coming later this year
The defensive meta that quickly arised in the early days of this game lost all of my interest. Playing against zoning characters is not fun to do or watch, and as a result of the zoning heavy meta my interest in the game faded fast. Hope MK11 will deliver where I2 just couldn't for me, but I'm sure it will since MK games haven't really had too many problems with pacing in the past, whereas both injustice titles are plagued by projectile spam. If I wanted to have a gun shot at me 24/7 in my video game, I'd play COD
Mkx and injustice 2 both lack stages. They were too focused on adding characters but new environment keep fights generally more interesting.
When you play Ranked sets, and all anyone uses is Batman, Batman, and sometimes Supergirl...the game is dead.
This shit game didn't deserve fighter of the year, Tekken did. However it was fated that it win that award due to NetherRealm games being popular with casuals.
This is the absolute truth! Netherrealm has a history of making broken games that are poor mechanically and the zoning meta is downright terrible.
Tekken did not deserve fighter of the year cause it lacks offline content
Give us mk 11
I dont care about injustice
They should release some skins but....also bring fighter pack 0 and space them out, not a month apart.
I personally like Mortal Kombat for 3 reasons, the pace, blocking, and combos. I prefer the up close combat of MK and it is a lot more fun in my opinion then the slow pace. I HATE back to block, it is fucking annoying because it makes certain strategies really fucking annoying, teleports are really hard to block because you have to move your finger ALL the way to the other side. Finally combos, combos in MKX are long and fun as it is very lenient in a lot of cases, but the main reason is meter, to do any sort of combo in Injustice, you need to start with meter which I don’t like as it limits combos. Most combos HAVE to have a back 3 or Forward 3 to actually do damage as well. These factors just make it less fun to me
I haven't played this game since Thanksgiving weekend, I love it but it really was all the same just keep doing multiverse missions until the end of time honestly
if netherealm has not started development yet, then MK11 is gonna be long way away. unless i’m unfamiliar with how short fighting game development is...
I like the characters from MK a lot! The universe is so much better, the storyline is more intriguing. I've been playing MK since the first one and i can say I am a die fan. But, even though i dislike DC characters, I think that the Injustice 2 gameplay is 1000 times better then MK. I just love everything related to gameplay
I wouldn't consider INJ2 to be a dead game yet. However, I would say that a lot of the hype for it is gone.
the issue they are way to many dc heroes and villains for their to be guest people adding those people instead of legit dc people is a cop out
Mmm... Well I disagree with some points, mostly in the balance aspect of the game cause all games suffer the same issue... If your talking from a ultra casual player point of view, well deadshot will make them quit the game... But for everyone else it wasn't a game breaking problem... I think the issue is set on the upcoming fighting games as the audience tend to shift depending on the hype .. like right now everyone is playing DBZF making the rest of the games look that they are loosing their audience. As no real fighting game right now is dead. Injustice is strong in tournaments, SF reign supreme as expected, DBZF is the new awesome kid on the block, Tekken has its die hard fans that don't abandon the game... So yeah. The only thing dead right now is MvC infinite, that game was born dead.