My narcissistic husband is still denying his latest affair despite me screenshotting and showing him the disgusting messages he’s sending to his young female employee day and night. He’s either insane or thinks I am. He’s in for a surprise soon because I’m divorcing him and he’ll find out next week.
Make sure all your ducks are in a row before you tell him. Mine broke things. He tore the house up looking for my jewelry so he could take it . Would take my wallet and keys and leave the house . This went on for over a year. He refused to leave my home. Just be careful. They turn into a different kind of beast when the rug gets pulled .. be safe
When I told him that I was speaking facts, he told me to stop victimizing myself...that I needed help, that I just need to stop dwelling on the past, to just get over it.
Their just destroying thier life for them to feel.. thier true feels on thier inside not only do they lie to others but ..thier BIGGEST LIES are to themselves and that's a SAD way to live😢
The fact is the narc cares about themselves first and only. We are just objects for them to use when convenient. Lying is how they get what they want. I was astounded at the dumb things the ex narc lied about. He lied so much that he couldn't keep them all straight. He isn't the brightest bulb. 😅
There is not a moment of peace. It’s constant wonder and worry as to what they’re doing who they’re on the phone with what are they thinking. Even when he’s with me and all seems to be OK my mind replays all the facts that I do know of what he’s doing. Then I find myself questioning. Could he really be lying this well? Could he have really be doing this all these years and I don’t know? You are in a constant state of the unknown. My heart is always racing and my gut feels like it’s twisted like a pretzel.
Dr. Phil and the behavior panel have some great videos of how to read body language and see the signs of a liar and manipulator. They are very empowering videos.
I was stuck in cognitive dissonance for YEARS...and fell prey to the thought that I shouldn't leave unless he actually hit me...but he didn't hit me because he didn't HAVE to (I would fawn and do whatever he wanted just to stop the abuse). I constantly made excuses for him and lied to myself...brainwashing myself and minimizing everything he does. Then, I made a concrete list of everything I could think of that he'd made me endure. That has helped me tremendously -- now, I'm getting out.
Yes I have been wondering. And I have sooooo much from this video and videos like it that tell me I’m being bamboozled…… and I’m having a hard time convincing myself that it’s true even though I know it is
Another home run, Ben! This resonates with my situation so well. Took me a long time to get to the point where I calmly call him out. The fumbling, deflecting stories and excuses are laughable now. He knows I know, and he's a coward. Thanks to you and your channel, I'm getting stronger. He hates that, and he hates me. I'm forgiving myself for putting up with his abuse all these years. Finding myself again, and planning my exit. Still need his money, sorry to say. 🙄
Insanely true.. every word.. it took me 2 years to remove the mental shackles he's placed me in... Even after he'd long gone back to his! I had all of these stories, excuses ready for him, serring him up to come back into my life the second be was ready to..after screwing things up or getting bored with his ex.. who is also a narcissist. You're doing the Lord's work... With the help if rhese videos, in getting better. Slowly, but surely.. Thank you
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ou weeeeeeeeeee!!! I’m so glad I’m not magnetized trauma bonding with narcs anymore!! At the end of the day kids, it’s just dangerous to down right evil. This channel is great. I love how he explains everything. Also, remember at the end of day, you can’t be with narcs cuz they turn you into one. You end up grey rocking, and lying too!!! First step, get away from them totally, and then start to heal and relearn how to regulate your nervous system. Ta-dahhhhhhh!!! Do it! You will be free and a good person again. You are no good when you around a narcissist. You have the right to be angry, happy, sad, and make good decisions especially when it is a hard one. Don’t look for a magical carpet ride thru life. Be prepared to say no and walk away when you have to from people and situations. Don’t go down these dark roads that are everywhere in life. Stay of the lighted path!!!!
I have been in a relationship for 4 years now. He has narcissist tendencies. He has pushed me away so much, that I turned to a stranger. Now the other person is treating me like crap. Because I won't give up the one I've been with for 4 years.
Even when the narcissist is telling the truth about something it will always be half-truths. They cannot tell the whole truth, everything must be embellished to make them sound like the perfect person or the hero. We have a daughter who lies almost every time she opens her life always to make herself look special.
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@RawMotivations it's tough. I had just got out of a 5yr relationship with a covert narcissist when I let a much younger woman move in. She was a different type of narcissist but an even more deceitful person. Both have substance abuse issues, so I justied their behavior. The dishonesty and future faking just blows my mind. How can anyone be so terrible?!
When you decide that you need to become a detective in a relationship (romantic or platonic), it’s when you know it’s time to leave or don’t be too emotionally invested in the person (if it’s just a friendship).
Funny you saying all this. I went thro it this past summer with my xnarc. A Narc will dance around the "issue"... forever... I gave him a $1,000 to get his Harley on the road. He then rode 8hrs away to try to reconnect with his X. Smashed the bike. Came home...wanting to reconnect..saying that he didnt sleep with her!! Im like dude....just the money i gave u and u riding to her is enough for me to end this circus....bye jerk.
The truth is always supported by facts and evidence. If the “truth” doesn’t have neither of those, then it’s an opinion and a perspective. It’s NOT a truth. People just need to learn how to use words correctly.
This popped up at a good time. I just went back to my partner after two weeks of “I’m sorry, I’ll change” - I left because he was giving me the cold shoulder and silent treatment for 4 weeks, littered with constant criticism about everything I said (I’m not exaggerating I literally couldn’t have a normal convo with him in this time). If it wasn’t criticism it was “jokes” at my expense, or bossing me and controlling me and then getting angry, belittling comments, staring me down. It was awful! So I left. Went back - BIG mistake. He “joked” that he cheated on me (funny joke?!), then also wouldn’t answer his phone when he was at the shop apparently, and then finally did but it was just … shady. Something was off. And he had to go quickly, then wouldn’t call me back… this instances had happened also in that 4 weeks of hell. I’m sure he had someone else He’s spent the night gaslighting me that I ruined the night, and he was “so looking forward to seeing me”, and that I was being paranoid and crazy. Just circular arguments. I would point out other times he lied about where he was. His response “I’m not lying”, so I would say “but you have before” him - “when?” Me - point out the instances again… “but I’m not lying” Ugh. I give up man.
His idea was for me to cancel my apartment, leave my life behind in another city, and move in with him-so I did. After a year of living with him, I still didn’t have a closet, a drawer, or anything of my own. All my belongings were kept outside, covered with a blanket. My laundry stayed in bags the entire time. All I got from him were empty words and promises. I was alone in his house while he was gone all day, working somewhere. He didn’t even have coffee with me in the morning; instead, he drank his coffee at the bar next to our house. Commands, tasks, criticism, disrespect, mocking-that was my everyday life. Once, he asked me to mow the grass, so I did, and I cleaned everything else up as well. When he came home, he didn’t even say hello to me. Then he went out to a restaurant for dinner and didn’t ask if I was hungry too. So, yeah... The last words I said to him were: "You know... you are not human. The one thing that makes humans human, you lack-and that is a soul. That’s what separates us from animals: the soul. And you don’t have that."
So i voice recorded my lovely ex narcissist going into a rage, nothing new ok. But about 4 minutes into it she switched over and began putting herself down then flapping her arms, crying and saying crazy things like "sleepyhead" "im so sad" and "my butt hurts" "everything hurts" then she began hitting herself in the arm and head. She was completely in a different world because she didn't listen to a word i said while i was trying to help her. After a while of this she switched back to putting me down but she changed her voice and was very tired. Can a narcissistic rage start narcissistic then autistic then back to narcissistic. Ive searched TH-cam rages and have yet to here anything like this.
I have a question. When it comes to birthdays, anniversary's, christmas etc do they give you thoughtful gifts or nothing or just random crap. My ex would steal random things and give them to me for those occasions. Might be a topic
Never thoughtful. That would take conscious time & effort to dedicate to what would make you happy. They’d rather give you a $500 necklace with *NO RETURN POLICY* than a $100 thing you *REALLY* wanted & spoke about for months. Even if they weren’t listening, asking you what you’d like is too much emotional labour. Because the $500 throw in the trash necklace is mentally the easiest option. Plus when you’re not brimming with joy over your $500 value ‘gift’ they go on the offence. They’ve *WASTED* that money on you. You’re *ungrateful* and *greedy* for not being happy with $500 of token value. And they expect $500 worth of adoration, compromise, submissive obedience in return for the generous sacrifice of *THEIR* $500. In reality that money was never given to you, they basically threw it down the drain. At least $500 of gift cards would’ve been spent on the thing that you’ve been waiting all year for. But that wouldn’t make them look good in the eyes of strangers. They’d rather the supply come from trying to impress the uncomfortable sales girls at the jewellery store.
@@amandab3946 I recall feeling like no thought was put into it and womdered if she even listened. We didnt have a bunch of money but she knows little things i collect. Not my concern anymore right.
@@RawMotivations I will for sure. Also gotta see if you did one on how and when you found out yourself and how you approach relationships now that you know. What has changed in you and is it real, or a lie? No lying though lol
I am a prisoner in my home,,, if i want to go to church he warns me,, there will be hell to pay... He has many friends and is such a great manipulator that when he has physically hurt me n i called the cops they tell me that i should leave... How can i leave when i am now constantly sick and depressed. I live in a crap house,,, mind u its all my fault even though i have never mattered in any decision he has had to make because God for id he not have complete n total control of every single breath i take. I need help!!! Before i am another statistic ,,,I need help!!!
Try to work a little everyday on your exit plan. Talk to your bank. Call a lawyer and get advice so you can get a picture of what your life will be without him. Get the advice of the lawyer and start slowly making changes over time. If he is violent, go to a women’s and children’s shelter, there is no reason to put up with this. Press charges.
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My narc will lie to save her face everytime I’m to the point now where it’s been over a year of me jsut calling her out on everything I’ve seen and heard and everythjng she never gives me any reasoning or any even good excuses why’d you delete your convo with this person she’ll say oh jsut didn’t want to have an arguement and I say for what it’s not about who your texting to me it’s what you are only reason you delete it is to hide it and that’s when she projects and Deflects what about when you messaged this person this and that well I didn’t hide it from you and you seen what was said she lies about stuff that don’t matter her son was behind on rent she lied to me an said his aunt was gonna put a bunch toward it blah blah blah and her own son tells me he don’t know what the he’ll I was talking bout just crazy
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They lie so much, they can't even tell the truth by accident🤦🏼♀️
They are children in adult bodies. Just impossible to get them to own up to anything.
Even when caught in the midst of a lie they still won’t tell the truth
The narcissist is lying when they open there mouth yo talk shit
My narcissistic husband is still denying his latest affair despite me screenshotting and showing him the disgusting messages he’s sending to his young female employee day and night. He’s either insane or thinks I am. He’s in for a surprise soon because I’m divorcing him and he’ll find out next week.
Good! This is insane if you stay so just don’t look back plz
Make sure all your ducks are in a row before you tell him. Mine broke things. He tore the house up looking for my jewelry so he could take it . Would take my wallet and keys and leave the house . This went on for over a year. He refused to leave my home. Just be careful. They turn into a different kind of beast when the rug gets pulled .. be safe
I agree with @shellyg5705 plan your exit plan, money, valuables, have a place to stay available. Get all evidence for court ready.
Stay safe through that process. Reach out for any help.
I wish I could be there to see his face! Love and power to you.
Like when he's in your face shouting HES NOT CHEATING but his phone is always on silent and turned face down....
Same or has to bring his phone everywhere. My husband sleeps with his phone under his pillow lol he claims it's so he can hear his alarm for work 😅😅
Mine took his into the bathroom where it sat on a pile of clothes while he took a shower 🙄
@@nomorenarcz I'm so over this marriage. 😒
@@The_Mim mine does the same shit!!
@nikki7marie9385 it's so aggravating knowing that they know that we know what's up and they still Darvo.
When I told him that I was speaking facts, he told me to stop victimizing myself...that I needed help, that I just need to stop dwelling on the past, to just get over it.
I told my husband he humiliated me, he said I humiliated myself and I just need to get over it.
Their just destroying thier life for them to feel.. thier true feels on thier inside not only do they lie to others but ..thier BIGGEST LIES are to themselves and that's a SAD way to live😢
The fact is the narc cares about themselves first and only. We are just objects for them to use when convenient. Lying is how they get what they want. I was astounded at the dumb things the ex narc lied about. He lied so much that he couldn't keep them all straight. He isn't the brightest bulb. 😅
There is not a moment of peace. It’s constant wonder and worry as to what they’re doing who they’re on the phone with what are they thinking. Even when he’s with me and all seems to be OK my mind replays all the facts that I do know of what he’s doing. Then I find myself questioning. Could he really be lying this well? Could he have really be doing this all these years and I don’t know? You are in a constant state of the unknown. My heart is always racing and my gut feels like it’s twisted like a pretzel.
Here's a video hope it helps th-cam.com/video/g7oCVr00QHA/w-d-xo.htmlsi=07VzD17kMdFDnoEp
You desrcibe me...😢
Me too.
And they get rid of evidence that you presented to them smh
They do. I handed her ther hard evidence and just asked for the truth. She said I planted it, and she destroyed it. If I bring it up, it's abuse.
Dr. Phil and the behavior panel have some great videos of how to read body language and see the signs of a liar and manipulator. They are very empowering videos.
They rage. That's how you know they are lying.
My narc mother in law couldn't look into my eyes every time she was lying.
I was stuck in cognitive dissonance for YEARS...and fell prey to the thought that I shouldn't leave unless he actually hit me...but he didn't hit me because he didn't HAVE to (I would fawn and do whatever he wanted just to stop the abuse). I constantly made excuses for him and lied to myself...brainwashing myself and minimizing everything he does. Then, I made a concrete list of everything I could think of that he'd made me endure. That has helped me tremendously -- now, I'm getting out.
Everything you're saying hits home Ben😢
Yes I have been wondering. And I have sooooo much from this video and videos like it that tell me I’m being bamboozled…… and I’m having a hard time convincing myself that it’s true even though I know it is
Their lips are moving?
waiting for this comment!
Denying & lying are synonymous
Just before the stage of devaluation do we discern their lies.
Another home run, Ben! This resonates with my situation so well. Took me a long time to get to the point where I calmly call him out. The fumbling, deflecting stories and excuses are laughable now. He knows I know, and he's a coward. Thanks to you and your channel, I'm getting stronger. He hates that, and he hates me. I'm forgiving myself for putting up with his abuse all these years. Finding myself again, and planning my exit. Still need his money, sorry to say. 🙄
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Insanely true.. every word.. it took me 2 years to remove the mental shackles he's placed me in... Even after he'd long gone back to his!
I had all of these stories, excuses ready for him, serring him up to come back into my life the second be was ready to..after screwing things up or getting bored with his ex.. who is also a narcissist.
You're doing the Lord's work...
With the help if rhese videos, in getting better. Slowly, but surely..
Thank you
He was close with a lady at his work. He deleted messages between them and fiercely defended her.
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ou weeeeeeeeeee!!!
I’m so glad I’m not magnetized trauma bonding with narcs anymore!!
At the end of the day kids, it’s just dangerous to down right evil.
This channel is great. I love how he explains everything. Also, remember at the end of day, you can’t be with narcs cuz they turn you into one. You end up grey rocking, and lying too!!!
First step, get away from them totally, and then start to heal and relearn how to regulate your nervous system.
Ta-dahhhhhhh!!! Do it! You will be free and a good person again. You are no good when you around a narcissist. You have the right to be angry, happy, sad, and make good decisions especially when it is a hard one. Don’t look for a magical carpet ride thru life. Be prepared to say no and walk away when you have to from people and situations. Don’t go down these dark roads that are everywhere in life. Stay of the lighted path!!!!
👍🏻 this helps once again to hear this explained from a narc perspective.
I have been in a relationship for 4 years now. He has narcissist tendencies. He has pushed me away so much, that I turned to a stranger. Now the other person is treating me like crap. Because I won't give up the one I've been with for 4 years.
He actually told me that he tells me the truth and lies and it’s up to me to decide what to believe 😮
Than you told him "than i dont believe!!!". Btw most of times their story didn't make sense all the time.
Wow. That's the only thing I can say right now is wow
I don’t understand how this guy changed from a narcissist to someone able to help others
It’s all for show and narcisstic supply, look how great I am. My husband always went out of his way to help others.
Thank you for this.
My pleasure!
Needed the reminder.
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Even when the narcissist is telling the truth about something it will always be half-truths. They cannot tell the whole truth, everything must be embellished to make them sound like the perfect person or the hero. We have a daughter who lies almost every time she opens her life always to make herself look special.
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Suffering cognitive dissidence developed by the abuse is so painful and debilitating.
How are you healing?
@RawMotivations it's tough. I had just got out of a 5yr relationship with a covert narcissist when I let a much younger woman move in. She was a different type of narcissist but an even more deceitful person. Both have substance abuse issues, so I justied their behavior. The dishonesty and future faking just blows my mind. How can anyone be so terrible?!
They make up stories about what someone else said. Triangulate you and turn you against this person. Ridiculous.
When you decide that you need to become a detective in a relationship (romantic or platonic), it’s when you know it’s time to leave or don’t be too emotionally invested in the person (if it’s just a friendship).
What’s the deal with these people and their phones? He had his phone on him for last 6 years and always using mine for things to look at!
Me too when we curious about something, my ex used my cellphone. It look like his cellphone doesnt workinng front of me
If he can change, why can’t the narcissists in our lives?
Hope this answers your question th-cam.com/video/3lZUuEH9GJI/w-d-xo.htmlsi=Zp9uQBJL3uFZl2WB
Funny you saying all this. I went thro it this past summer with my xnarc. A Narc will dance around the "issue"... forever...
I gave him a $1,000 to get his Harley on the road. He then rode 8hrs away to try to reconnect with his X. Smashed the bike. Came home...wanting to reconnect..saying that he didnt sleep with her!! Im like dude....just the money i gave u and u riding to her is enough for me to end this circus....bye jerk.
The truth is always supported by facts and evidence. If the “truth” doesn’t have neither of those, then it’s an opinion and a perspective. It’s NOT a truth.
People just need to learn how to use words correctly.
This popped up at a good time. I just went back to my partner after two weeks of “I’m sorry, I’ll change” - I left because he was giving me the cold shoulder and silent treatment for 4 weeks, littered with constant criticism about everything I said (I’m not exaggerating I literally couldn’t have a normal convo with him in this time). If it wasn’t criticism it was “jokes” at my expense, or bossing me and controlling me and then getting angry, belittling comments, staring me down. It was awful! So I left.
Went back - BIG mistake. He “joked” that he cheated on me (funny joke?!), then also wouldn’t answer his phone when he was at the shop apparently, and then finally did but it was just … shady. Something was off. And he had to go quickly, then wouldn’t call me back… this instances had happened also in that 4 weeks of hell. I’m sure he had someone else
He’s spent the night gaslighting me that I ruined the night, and he was “so looking forward to seeing me”, and that I was being paranoid and crazy. Just circular arguments. I would point out other times he lied about where he was. His response “I’m not lying”, so I would say “but you have before” him - “when?” Me - point out the instances again… “but I’m not lying”
Ugh. I give up man.
Been through all of this
They are lying when their mouth is moving.
Lips Are moving
His idea was for me to cancel my apartment, leave my life behind in another city, and move in with him-so I did. After a year of living with him, I still didn’t have a closet, a drawer, or anything of my own. All my belongings were kept outside, covered with a blanket. My laundry stayed in bags the entire time. All I got from him were empty words and promises. I was alone in his house while he was gone all day, working somewhere. He didn’t even have coffee with me in the morning; instead, he drank his coffee at the bar next to our house. Commands, tasks, criticism, disrespect, mocking-that was my everyday life.
Once, he asked me to mow the grass, so I did, and I cleaned everything else up as well. When he came home, he didn’t even say hello to me. Then he went out to a restaurant for dinner and didn’t ask if I was hungry too. So, yeah... The last words I said to him were: "You know... you are not human. The one thing that makes humans human, you lack-and that is a soul. That’s what separates us from animals: the soul. And you don’t have that."
So i voice recorded my lovely ex narcissist going into a rage, nothing new ok. But about 4 minutes into it she switched over and began putting herself down then flapping her arms, crying and saying crazy things like "sleepyhead" "im so sad" and "my butt hurts" "everything hurts" then she began hitting herself in the arm and head. She was completely in a different world because she didn't listen to a word i said while i was trying to help her. After a while of this she switched back to putting me down but she changed her voice and was very tired. Can a narcissistic rage start narcissistic then autistic then back to narcissistic. Ive searched TH-cam rages and have yet to here anything like this.
He’s talking??
If their lips are moving....they are lying. IT'S THAT SIMPLE.
I have a question. When it comes to birthdays, anniversary's, christmas etc do they give you thoughtful gifts or nothing or just random crap. My ex would steal random things and give them to me for those occasions. Might be a topic
Never thoughtful. That would take conscious time & effort to dedicate to what would make you happy.
They’d rather give you a $500 necklace with *NO RETURN POLICY* than a $100 thing you *REALLY* wanted & spoke about for months. Even if they weren’t listening, asking you what you’d like is too much emotional labour.
Because the $500 throw in the trash necklace is mentally the easiest option.
Plus when you’re not brimming with joy over your $500 value ‘gift’ they go on the offence. They’ve *WASTED* that money on you. You’re *ungrateful* and *greedy* for not being happy with $500 of token value.
And they expect $500 worth of adoration, compromise, submissive obedience in return for the generous sacrifice of *THEIR* $500.
In reality that money was never given to you, they basically threw it down the drain.
At least $500 of gift cards would’ve been spent on the thing that you’ve been waiting all year for.
But that wouldn’t make them look good in the eyes of strangers. They’d rather the supply come from trying to impress the uncomfortable sales girls at the jewellery store.
Thanks for the idea, here's a video related how Narcissist Ruin Special Occassions th-cam.com/video/feYwWw9MPPQ/w-d-xo.htmlsi=x1XnAFAdexwz7PvS
@@amandab3946 I recall feeling like no thought was put into it and womdered if she even listened. We didnt have a bunch of money but she knows little things i collect. Not my concern anymore right.
@@RawMotivations I will for sure. Also gotta see if you did one on how and when you found out yourself and how you approach relationships now that you know. What has changed in you and is it real, or a lie? No lying though lol
My narc gifts me things his passed on mother likes...never what I like.
They're lips are moving!🐀
Do you have a video on what apps and or how they're getting rid of hiding evidence on their phone?
I don’t think I do
I don't know if it's legit but I have seen people on Facebook groups like narc or trauma bond recovery say they can do it
@ most of themes are also scams and hackers
Would Lie Detector works to see if he’s telling the Truth or Lying?
Hope this answers your question th-cam.com/video/pHU9N8y_Pw4/w-d-xo.htmlsi=jSqbWdQ1dHMYN56v
Is narcissism hereditary, mental or learned
I am a prisoner in my home,,, if i want to go to church he warns me,, there will be hell to pay... He has many friends and is such a great manipulator that when he has physically hurt me n i called the cops they tell me that i should leave... How can i leave when i am now constantly sick and depressed. I live in a crap house,,, mind u its all my fault even though i have never mattered in any decision he has had to make because God for id he not have complete n total control of every single breath i take. I need help!!! Before i am another statistic ,,,I need help!!!
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Try to work a little everyday on your exit plan. Talk to your bank. Call a lawyer and get advice so you can get a picture of what your life will be without him. Get the advice of the lawyer and start slowly making changes over time. If he is violent, go to a women’s and children’s shelter, there is no reason to put up with this. Press charges.
Anything out of his mouth, everything he writes lol
How did ur wife move past that stuff & trust u again? I guess actively going to therapy.
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My narc will lie to save her face everytime I’m to the point now where it’s been over a year of me jsut calling her out on everything I’ve seen and heard and everythjng she never gives me any reasoning or any even good excuses why’d you delete your convo with this person she’ll say oh jsut didn’t want to have an arguement and I say for what it’s not about who your texting to me it’s what you are only reason you delete it is to hide it and that’s when she projects and Deflects what about when you messaged this person this and that well I didn’t hide it from you and you seen what was said she lies about stuff that don’t matter her son was behind on rent she lied to me an said his aunt was gonna put a bunch toward it blah blah blah and her own son tells me he don’t know what the he’ll I was talking bout just crazy
LoL😂
I'd prefer the trained monkey. 😊
The narcissist usually doesn’t believe they are lying most of the time. They really believe those delusions. That’s how they convince you it’s true.