HOW TO: BIGGEST wheel/tire combo on stock NOVA
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 11 มี.ค. 2022
- We explain how to fit the absolute biggest wheel/tire combo on your stock 3rd generation chevy Nova, Apollo, Ventura, or Omega. Learn how to fit a 275/60/15 on a 15x8 steel wheel by ordering a custom offset (5.25") so you can sneak those big meats in there with no modifications to original vehicle equipment. We are going to be running this custom setup with a Hoosier drag radial on our 1969 sleeper project "Narcolepsy Nova" so we can retain our dog dish hubcaps and get the most bite at the race track! Our competitors are not gonna know what hit em!
CUSTOM WHEELS (15X8 5.25 B.S. 275/60/15)
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(CALL TO MODIFY OFFSET TO 5.25")
DRAG RADIALS
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VALVE STEMS
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STREET WHEEL SETUP (15X7 4.25 B.S. 255/60/15)
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BF GOODRICH TIRES
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Reminds me of my 68 Nova I had in high school. I had M50x14 tires in the rear. Loved that car!
I put a 40 series Mickey Thompson. That’s a 10.5” wide tire! I ran Foose rims and I also changed the lower shock mounts to one’s off a 72 camaro so it changed the shock angle! My backspacing was in centimeters or millimeters or something stupid but it wound up being around a 5.75” offset! The main thing I had to change was the shock mounts!Blue Ridge
New wheels & tires are looking sick 👍
Especially with those dog dishes 🤠
Totally new style with just a "small" update in tire size .. 😙
Nice vid........not a nova owner but know a few guys that run them. Six cylinder car comment was a chuckle. All the money spent in the right places so far. Good luck and don't touch the body. It tells a story.....
I put the centreline auto drag 15x8.5 PCD5-120 65..+3 offset...with 255 60 15 tyres fitted perfectly nice..also I did try 275 60 15 it bit tight on outer guard lips
all u need trim 1.5 inches off diff housing 10 bolts 8.5 rear then there is room to fit the 275 60 15 without hurting the guard lips
i always use the gm 15 x 8 inch monte carlo ralley wheels that used them corvette type center caps n beauty rings n ran 275/60r15 no problem fits great and also ran 295/50r15
i have a 74 nova and i put 275 on it and rolled the finders also cut the in of finders . and it rides nice
I saw the 255 x 15 x 7s that you took off. That is exactly what I am looking for. They looked good on your nova. The new ones even better. Thanks for the information.
Thanks man! I’m a huge fan dog the 255’s on the 15x7’s it’s still a meaty tire that fits so good in the wheel wells of these cars. The 275 is awesome but it’s CLOSE! Thanks for watching.
The stock 15/8 rallies fit perfect to! With a 265/50 TA radial. I ran that on my 70SS with a 14/7 rally with a 245/50/14 on the front. Looks WICKED, and no problems with any rubbing.
I remember a few years ago everyone told me to buy the 15x8 with a 5.5" backspace so I did, and wound up having to get 1/4" wheel spacers. The 5.5" didn't actually rub until you had enough weight in the car. Nice video!
Thanks!
15x8 5.5 backspacing on my 72 steelies.....15x9 5 inch backspacing US Wheel aluminum slots.....MH racemaster J60s on the slots 27560R15 nitto drag radials on the steelies!
I’m running the same 275s on my Nova with 5.5” backspacing and fit ok. I’m running air shocks, which would not work with that wide of a tire. There is a kit that relocated the shocks to the inside of the leaf springs if your shocks cause clearance issues
Great video man.
Thanks! I appreciate it!
That is definitely a very raced out 6 cylinder 🤪I am building my 68 the same way starting with all the speed parts first and drive train last , waiting on parts though is hindering the progress for sure.thanks for the videos , keep them coming!
Thanks Sean!
Looks great! I usually run the 275/60r15’s on 15x10 inch rims for a flatter tread patch, I wonder if running a 10” rim on this car would still fit with the correct offset since the tires don’t ballon on the rim as much
This is an awesome video bro
Thanks man! I appreciate it!!
I like it. Now that's a sleeper.
I have a 70 Nova, lowered 2” rear hotchkis springs, and rear disc brake, I think the disc pushes it out a 1/4 “, so a15x8 w/a 5.25 back space should work I’d be happy with a 255, running 235x60x15now looks like grand ma’s car
Subscribed because you’re from NJ! I’m up in Bergen County!
Hell yea man! Thanks for subscribing. Maybe I’ll catch you at a local event sometime!
looks like it already has some fender mods :o) jus kiddin no pun- no really this is awesome and an awesome nova! one awesome nova guy on here used a calvert cal tracs , shocks and shock relocation kit and got even wider than this! it looks great.
I was thinking the same thing, fenders already look rolled and smashed up
if you can fit a pair of baloneys in a Nova's limited wheelwells, you can fit em under anything.
I'm hoping you also can get some body work done to that soon to be beast.The color is nice in a " not over used " kind of way. It's not black or blue, and it's probably the original paint that the car rolled off the assembly line with, so it's got that survivor factor too. Have fun with it, and don't wreck it. If that does happen, hopefully, you'll have a roll cage in it so you don't get hurt.
I'm going to have wheel Smith make me some 15x8 6.5 backspace. My 68 is mini tubbed but I'm running leaf springs, I did relocate my shocks but don't want to mess with the leafs
I'm not sure if it has to do with the fact that you put a Ford 9-inch rear end in the car but on mine I had an eight inch wheel with a four and a half inch backspace and a 29 5-10-5 slick but it did require a little quarter panel massaging
Awesome man
Thanks!
18 X 9.5 with 6” of back spacing. You’re welcome.. Bmw m parallels work perfect 😎
What factory color is this car. I like it a lot.
i'm going for a similar look on my 86' ss, the rims i bought are from wheel smith all 4 17x8" with 3.5" back space & 245/50 redlines and car is black. those hubcaps factory or are they reproduced somewhere? i understand they're 10 1/8" which will fit my rims.
Jeeeez that’s tight
Awesome video! It was super helpful. I’m having a hard time finding wheels with a 5.25 back spacing. Do you know if a 5 or a 5.5 would work? Thanks for taking the time to make your videos. I really appreciate them!
Thanks Justin I really appreciate your feedback and am glad you enjoy the content! As for your wheel selection for a 5.25 bs wheel your options are going to be very scarce (that’s why I chose a two piece steel wheel that I could modify the backspace to the perfect size). However a lot of guys do have luck running a 5 or 5.5” bs wheel it’s just not the most “universal” nova size. Running the 5 or 5.5 will definitely require some slight tweaking to make work with the 275 but it is doable. Another potential option is running the 5” bs wheel with a .25” spacer. I have attached a link to a company that sells billet aluminum spacer to make the 5” a 5.25” bs. I hope this helps point you in the right direction!
www.speedwaymotors.com/OER-K151791-1-4-In-Billet-Alum-Spacer-For-5X4-3-4-In-Bolt-Pattern,130068.html?sku=92626667&CSEGoogle&CSE&CSEGOOGLE&gclid=Cj0KCQjw0PWRBhDKARIsAPKHFGgeZnDgPUG2MTJSVcyE5BJxO8l6xeV82-stoQJqX41iMtvMGdn7zfUaAsR3EALw_wcB
Thanks! I really appreciate the quick reply. I’m looking forward to your other videos.
There aren’t very many companies that will do a 5.5” backspacing in the 15x8 wheel. I ended up buying the Vision Nitros that do come with the proper measurements. Nice looking wheels too
Getting a quote now from Wheel Vintiques for the same size wheel for my '71. Is your Currie 9 inch the same width (flange-to-flange) as the original rear end? It should be 60" if memory serves. Love the vids and the build!
Thanks John glad you enjoy the content! I don’t remember the exact measurement flange to flange but yes my original 8.2 10 bolt and the 9” that I got from Currie are exactly the same.
Do u still have e those rims and tires u took off
Hello! I thought you said the ideal spacer was 5.225, not 5.250.? I saw many very nice parts under there. What plans do you have to the body work? Thanks for sharing. Cheers from Motown.
No. I did not mention anything regarding a spacer. I did talk about the backspacing and the ideal backspacing is 5.25” (which generally has to be custom ordered). Some people get away with 5.5” or 5.0” but these typically require some modifying/trimming to fit. I have no plans for the bodywork. I like it just the way it is with all its bumps and bruises
dude u should use a trigger handle on your spray cans
Great vodeo
Thanks! Glad you enjoyed it
Will this same combo fit a 67-69 Camaro ?
What factory color is this car? I like it. 👍🏻
Thanks for the info! Do you know if anyone reproduces Chevy Rally rim made with that 5.5” backspacing?
The only rally wheel they sell of the shelf is this one www.summitracing.com/parts/wvi-30-583405. However even though it is only 5” b.s it is made by the same company (wheel vintiques) as my wheels. They are also a two piece construction just like my wheels so I don’t see why they couldn’t custom make the b.s for you like they did for me. Call summit with that P/N I gave you and see if they can do it. I ordered the wheels through summit because it was cheaper and came with free shipping as opposed to ordering directly through wheel vintiques.
I don't understand why everybody thinks this is such a big feet to put 275.60 under a 68 to 72 Nova. I have run a variety of combinations on my 69 I currently have 15 * 8 1/2 center lines with 4 7/8 backspace the wheel has a nice deep dish to it it fits the car perfectly and looks a million times better than some boring black painted steel wheels. Not to mention I had them delivered in a day I didn't wait a year for some goofy backspace
Love the car very cool! Do you happen to remember the backspacing on the 15x7 wheel?
Thanks man! Also the rear wheel/tire setup with the street tires is 255/60/15 on 15x7 wheel 4.25 backspacing
Thank you! Wanting to go with that street look on my 72
Do you think that magic number of 5.25 would work for a 1969 Camaro aswell? Love the look of those Hoosier meaty tire on the back. Well done👏👏👍👍
Hey Ryan glad you like this look but honestly not sure if this is right b.s. for the Camaro or not. Almost everything on the nova and Camaro chassis wise is very very similar but the Camaro quarter panels and inner fender are very different. I don’t believe you would have as tough of a time fitting big meats on that Camaro. You may be able to fit a more off the shelf wheel on that car that wouldn’t require the custom made b.s.
Where can i get the steel wheels
this is for sure a great channel and beautiful videos.... SUBBED and LIKED , a fellow creator.
THANKS!! Glad you enjoy the content. Thanks for the feedback I truly appreciate it!
great info! looks bitchin for sure with those hoosiers. i wonder if that backspacing for a 18" would fit also or 17" wheel size.
Looks great. Are those stock height or lowered rear leafs?
I went with the stock height leafs.
What backspace did you end up going with on the front wheels? Also, what tire size did you choose on the front?
Front is a 215/70 on a 15x6 3.75 B.S.
Josh i mistyped the backspacing. It was 3.75" bs on the fronts not 4.75"
Is your bottom bolt on the cal tech bar loose on the drivers side?
Yes at the time I made this video I had just finished installing the cal tracs and had not set them or yet. Since this video everything has been locked down and tightened.
I’m not sure if you answered this before but can you give me the bolt pattern for the 15x8 5.25 back spacing on the nova wheels from Wheel manufacture? I’m not dragging so how large can the front go as well without making modifications? Thanks
The bolt pattern is 5x4.75". The front will all depend on what size rim you want to run. I am running a 15x6 with 3.75" B.S on a 215/70 tire and this is the tallest tire you can cram in there with this wheel size without hitting inner wheel well or frame on a full lock.
@@hatchsrecreationalengineer1997 Thanks once again for the info!
That's easy, 275/60/15
Not to sound dumb. But what is the advantage of a metal Valve stem?
NHRA safety requirement and it's a lot harder to get knocked off by track debris etc.. Cheap insurance!
So what happens when your axle is offset to the passenger side by 3/4” from the factory… I have days of room on the driver’s side but my passenger side rubs all day
if everything is square, consider a panhard bar to move rear into a better position and keep it there. Also measure where the spring perches are and make syre they are positioned perfectly
Get any wheel from a 70-81 Camaro or trans am.
I’m gonna guess any hard cornering or people in the back is going to get you rubbing in a few places.
What is the black paint you used??
It’s a duplicolor acrylic enamel (gloss black). I use it on everything and love the way it looks and holds up. They sell it at my local Napa auto parts.
I get a kick outta guys putting all the effort they do into building a "sleeper" because to be honest nothing says fast as fuck as a bare bones Nova runnin' steelies and dish hub caps. Looks cool but get rid of the dents at the very least.
What was the BS on the street wheels you took off? 5”?
Wheel I took off were 15x7 4.25” backspace on a 255 60 15
On the rims I know a couple of people who can cut them and set them where you want within the ring. I want store up the holes where the lug studs go through. And my dad surprised me while I was gone off to whatever duty station ice TDY at. Here in head and cut it out a ring and put in a new rim face. Yeah I'm bragging a little bit. You can't tell what it done by time finish it. He's no longer here to do those things. Somebody bills dirt track cars should be able to do something like this I'm only mention it because if you're in a bind next time around and can't wait. They turned out beautiful that look great I know it's been a year or so ago. I have even wider tires on a little bit older car and the rims are built specifically and they do fine going down straight stretch like a quarter-mile but you get on a little bit of a turn here and there, they drag. They look great on your car
what black finish was ? is this a semi gloss black ??
It is duplicolor semi gloss black spray paint. I use it all the time. Holds up extremely well for an aerosol product.
Do you know the offset/bs on the 7"?
4.25 b.s. on the 15x7’s (255/60 tire)
I agree with what you've done. The only question for me would be about the 9" you had made.
Why not have the rear made 2" narrower? Then all the 8" wheels with 4.25" backspace would work- and those are significantly more common.
With 2" tubs narrowed 58.5 wide 9inch rear would do the trick, then 10" rims with 5.5" backspace should fit 305 tire size
@@stanmendoza7871 I'm not sure that's right. Who makes a 305 radial in 15"?
@@PaulsProTips Nitto NTO5R 305/15 Michelin TB/15's even wider 325/50R15 form Racemaster or M/T 325 Streets
@@stanmendoza7871 i couldn't find the Nitto. Got a link?
You got nice 9" diff and old rust Scottish bagpipe muffler 🤣
Need good killer mufflers 👍
Only reason for the bagpipe muffler is the car still has the 6 cylinder and powerglide in it. Once the drivetrain is upgraded so will the exhaust. Started with suspension, brakes, and rearend before making power upgrades.
I have a 496 1969 Nova that runs 10.23 in quarter mile on drag radials with just 28" MT tires and stock suspension with slapper bars. You want 275 in rear for what? Are you drag racing this? Are you doing an LS turbo street racer? Wide tires are for traction and not looks. For a wide rim even with 5.5 spacing you have to relocate at least one shock on drivers side on 1969-72 Nova's or the bolt head will rub the rim.
Mine hitting the inner fender with 5.5
What is the size of the front tire setup?
215/70 on a 15x6 wheel vintiques steel wheel.
@@hatchsrecreationalengineer1997 Thank you.
What's the measurements of the front wheels and rims?
215/70/15 on a 15x6 with 3.75 backspacing. Wheel vintiques steel wheel.
@@hatchsrecreationalengineer1997 thank you. With this brand of rims. Have you found the dog dishes are loose or fly off?
@@thomasbednarik535 with the wheel vintiques wheels I have had great luck on the 3 pairs I have. The dishes fit super tight and I’ve never lost one.
@@hatchsrecreationalengineer1997 do you think 15x7 would be to wide for the front?
@@thomasbednarik535I have seen guys run 15x7’s on the front you just need to research what backspacing you will need and tire size. I know a guy running rally wheels on a 68’ that are 15x7 4” backspacing with a 215/65 tire.
15x10's with a 5" back spacing 275-60-15's will barely fit too
All that work painting them and they slap weights on the outer rim 😣
Wheel vintiques does not make custom off sets any more!
promosm
Did you say you waited a YEAR? F that..
Don't put a fat girl in the back, she will cause you issues when going over uneven pavement or hitting pot holes. The outside of the tire will surely rub up in the outer wheelhouse. I have wheels my Uncle and I made that fit exactly like yours do. No problems until you hit a bump hard. With rear passengers its not good on the tires or the car. It makes me flinch when I hear them rub. It is not a set up for normal street or highway driving. It will teach you to slow down and dodge the rough stuff. Also, only petite girls in the back seat. Keep some air pressure in them so they stand tall until you get to the race track. Don't load up the trunk with heavy stuff. Don't fill your fuel tank completely full. These are all small things I have learned from 24 years of driving and racing with tires that barely fit but look AWESOME. Most people think its mini tubbed. It is not. I have the same back spacing on home made ( by me and my uncle at his machine shop) Rally Wheels. 15x8 with a 29/10.5/15 MT ET Drag Slick. I had to trim the lip at the top of the wheel well. Then tack weld the quarter and outer wheel house back together. I had cut away the spot welds up top. Well I hope you have finished the car by now. If you have, you will have already figured out most the pitfalls of running very tight tire clearance. But its worth every scuff and scrape to have "That Look". Build On!
Do they rub when driving on the street and going over bumps? Even with the caltracs? I have that 70nova w/10bolt and caltracs in the rear
No they do not rub. I have been running them on my 69’ for a few months to local car shows and cruise nights and they fit great. However I tried to put them on my 72’ and they would not fit with the rear shock absorbers that I have on that car. So I’m order for them to fit you will need to run a rear shock that has a thin housing .
@@hatchsrecreationalengineer1997 I just have some cheap AutoZone ones that are thin enough. I also have the splitmonos on mine. I wasn't to sure if I should have gotten the adjustable ones like yours. Not to sure if it would make a big difference vs the cheap AutoZone ones. Other than the shocks and my 8.2 Yukon gear with posi diff I have the same set up as yours. Gonna try out the 5.25 back spacing with 275s. Hope it goes well. Thanks