The easy way to use permethrin on your clothes & stop ticks
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Good idea. No nonsense. Thanks for not wasting my time.
I use a product available in the US that is called Duration, and it is specifically formulated for apparel and fabric, which doesn't leave the "petrol" smell. I also mix it up in a bucket and soak EVERYTHING in it. All my hammocks, tarps, clothing, backpack, ...I put a 5 gal bucket out, and just start hanging stuff to dry off the trees in my back yard.
I have been applying permethrin to my cloths the same way for years. Except that I use a higher concentration and let it stay soaked in the permethrin for 24 hrs before hanging it out to dry. It lasts longer on the cloths this way
Nice and concise. It’s unfortunate that the Sawyer isn’t available there. The claimed advantage of Sawyer’s formulation is that it includes binding agents so that it isn’t washed into waterways during stream crossings and clothes can be washed few times before requiring another treatment. Apparently the agricultural stuff doesn’t do that.
Also, don’t hang the wet clothes where felines can get to it. It’s toxic to them in a liquid state.
I’d get sawyer if I could, but still apply in a bag vs spray bottle.
@@KaneDoesOutdoors we are 10+ years into the approval process for consumer sales in Canada.
@@SawyerProducts I work in pharmaceutical reg & CMC so can imagine that the approval process would be quite challenging.
Thanks for the tips Kane. I use the spray bottle from the US, but your are right it is time consuming. I will definitely think about your method in the future. Thanks.
I hang my stuff on a old fashion clothes line. That includes a tent if I am using one. I spray the bottom 12 inches of the tents sides and all of my clothing including my hat. I put on a mask to stop any possibility of breathing some of the spray.
Kane does chemicals - nice kinda chemicals that is!
Thanks Kane, I was wondering about this, appreciate the to the point video!
Looks like a winner to me! Thanks.
Really like the short and to the point content. Thanks
permethrin is 0% water soluble, it is most likely an organic solvent it's mixed with. it stays suspended. (30 years in pest control) skin won't absorb much at all when it is dry. Excessive sweating in treated clothes can cause irration for some folks. the key point it is a contact insecticide. in pest control we use it in foggers and flushers (like raid).
I buy the 10% off amazon, dilute to end up with the final percentage I desire in a 5 gallon bucket, soak my clothes in that overnight and then hang to dry completely. Once the clothes are 100% dry I will run them through a light wash cycle in my clothes washer, no soap, and then air dry again. They are good for the season that way.
Great video. I just released a video talking about this product as well. There is another product we can get in Canada called Ultrashield you may want to look at. Thanks for sharing
Do you do this before each trip or does it last through washes?
Does it need to be rinsed after treating it
or just wear it as it is?
You're correct that it does not dissolve well in water, so it also isn't likely to leach into groundwater. Haven't noticed a difference between the stuff you're using or similar water-based formulations that are available in Canada (Bug-Tek, etc.) and the Sawyer product from the US except that the bulk stuff is actually cheaper. I'm skeptical about the "binding agent" claims for the Sawyer product, and they list everything except the permethrin itself as a trade secret in the SDS. It definitely works, but so does the Bug-Tek, OnGuard, etc. They haven't really given us a satisfactory reason for not allowing permethrin to be marketed and sold for this purpose in Canada, and there are literally hundreds of permethrin-based products available from stores across the country.
I live in Canada too i like to try this item can you place a link for the amazon item or just the name i see if i can get some too thanks Dave from Labrador No Ticks but loads of Black Flies!
OnGuard Pro-Perm on amazon. But remember, that stuff isn't approved for clothes in Canada.
Does this repel bugs or just kill then if they land on it? I had no idea you could use it on your clothes like that. I definitely giving that a shot
Treated clothes repel.
Looking on Amazon I noticed that the label on the On Guard Pro Perm Insect Killer bottle warns against applying to clothes. Am I looking at the wrong product?
It’s not sold for that, do at your own risk. We are in a bit of a bind in Canada since no products are approved for use to treat clothing. If you can get sawyer, that’s the better option. Is there a real difference between the two? I don’t know. The active ingredient is the active ingredient.
You can read about it here:
www.canada.ca/en/public-health/services/publications/diseases-conditions/permethrin-treated-clothing.html
@@KaneDoesOutdoors thanks!
@@KaneDoesOutdoors love your content, by the way!
But when you just dump it in like that, you don't really have any control of where the product is sinking into no? Is it not better to apply the product basically just around the lower leg area / ankles etc? That's what I do. Then spray my trail runners. I just wear a mask when spraying.
I let it absorb throughout the entire garment.
Actually the concentrations are not in the same ballpark. Sawyer is 14.3 time more concentrated that yours. That's more than an order of magnitude. Not to get technical or anything.
Your numbers are wrong. Sawyer is 0.5% permethrin and the stuff I use is 0.35% permethrin. 1%w/v is defined as 1g of solute per 100 mL solvent. That means Sawyer has 0.5g (or 500 mg) permethrin per 100 mL. 0.35% is 0.35g per 100 mL. That's 1.43X or 143% not 14.3X. You're off by an order of magnitude.
I doubt the concentration difference would affect potency in this type of use case since the active ingredient deposited in fabric following evaporation. Using the spray bottle would introduce a huge amount of variability. Let's say you apply 200 mL of either product. That would translate to 1000 mg permethrin from Sawyer, or 700 mg from pro-perm, dispersed over the entire garment. The pharmaceutical quality scientist in me has a hunch that it makes no difference. Maybe you need to re-treat with the lower concentration product more often.
Check the video. You said 0.035%. Anyway enjoy the videos.
@@user-xf6ig9ur2y Ah correct I did say that by accident. It's 0.35%. not 0.035%.
If your going to catch them so be it just check your body on an evening and get rid, here in Scotland I've had loads on me .