Wish to know the impact of the ABL bro, something so many people leave out, I guess it's hard to explain but would be great for a comparison, how hard kicks the ABL in HDR.
Great review, I'm thinking of this instead of the A90j, as I'm not sure the price difference is worth it, I don't do any gaming, so those features don't bother me at all. This model is getting some frest reviews.
I have had this Tv for 3 months now. I can tell you it is amazing. The picture is jaw dropping. Makes me love TV again. Best TV for the money that you can buy. I change channels sometimes just to see what something looks like on this screen. Awesome.
Great review about a great tv. I just bought a 55” A80J and I agree with the reviewer that the sound is amazing. I now use my sound bar with a different tv since I don’t need it with this one.
Just bought the A80j and looking through all the you tube videos, there are lots bashing this tv, but I didn’t understand, cos I was really impressed with it. Initially I was disappointed with the brightness, having come from a Sony led before this, but now realise that I probably had my tv too bright before, now with the A80j everything looks more natural and really pops with the right content. This is a great review, I like the way you encourage experimentation with the picture, and not just saying that various settings are just wrong, it comes down to personal preference, who cares if it was supposed to look a certain way, you need to be happy with what you see yourself.
@@attilamorvai I think what swayed me towards the Sony was that most of the reviews gave the Sony better picture quality and motion processing and the gaming features will come in the future, so the Sony seemed the better choice as I want it mainly for tv and movies. Overall am really happy with my choice and don’t regret my choice.
@@nigelbush8020 thank you for taking your time to answer, i myself never play and will only use it for tv and movies some times…but what about sony compared to lg regarding future proof?
@@attilamorvai Sony have always kept their promise to update tv features, so I am confident that the A80j will eventually be equal to the c1 in features, as well as having better picture and motion, unlike Samsung who seem to promise a lot and rarely deliver what they promise
You're going to become one of the best channels of tv's bro, keep up the GREAT content, and keep specializing the content for gamers, we don't have much reference in that regard on this level on youtube, that's why my reference it's you. Big hug brother.
I’ve got the 55” A80J with the Sony HTS400 soundbar with a Subwoofer. The sound and picture quality is amazing, I also bought the backlit remote from the A90 which works perfectly with the A80.
You can call him biased, but I 100% agree with the review. My 75" 800H went bad under warranty, so was deciding on two TV options to replace at Best Buy. I compared to the C1 77" and the X90J 75". A80J blew the X90J away and the sound and video upscaling blew the C1 away. If just playing HD though, the A80J and C1 appeared the same.
I've been looking for my first oled tv. My older sony led is 8 years old now. Your video here just pushed me toward my first choice here. The Sony A80j is now at 1799.00. Great video review here. Thank you.
I just purchased this television and should be delivered in a few days. Being 73 years old this new technology has me a little concerned. I do think this is the best television for the money but with all the settings you can change, the possibilities are numerous. Since I’m home all the time I wanted to have a television that gives me the best picture for movies, shows and sports. Hopefully I can find a good setting for all because I don’t want to have to change settings every time I change a channel or go from live tv to Blu-ray. Wish me luck I’m really anxious to get this thing.
HGIG gives the best colors and the highest specular highlight, so I look for these aspect if you want HGIG maybe off is HGIG TM off with LG similar to HGIG but sometimes highlights get washed out also my C9 is 14/14 clicks until white Square disappear and with TM 25 /25 clicks on PS5 HDR calibration
How are you liking it? I think I’m going with exactly what you got over a 65” a90j. The detail in high & low seems to be better on the a80j in my opinion.
Great review I am thinking of buying the A90J later in the year for moving watching , as soon as the 48 inch C1 Oled goes on sale going to get that for gaming , and video editing . We need that side by side comparison between the A90J and the A80J to see if that thousand dollar difference is justified.
KG awesome ! this is the one I've been waiting for, if you're going to go with a Sony OLED 77" your options are limited , looking forward to your breakdown of this unit with brightness readings and your recommendations.
I just ordered one of these over a C1 for a couple reasons. I'm probably not going to game with it and it $100 cheaper at the time of purchase for a 65". Honesty it was a tough call because they are really close in my opinion but to me overall picture quality in non gaming situations was my priority. I also liked the adjustable stand and next gen tuner.
Thanks for this detailed examination of the A80J. I'm considering getting one of these myself. Tell me, I'm sure you've looked at the A90. I found it to be too bright in the highlights, to the point of it giving me eye strain and very uncomfortable to look at for more than a couple minutes. Did you find this to be the case also?
Bought sonya80j few days back when opening mx player tv app and playing a movie in it ,the video just getting frozen only the audio is playing ,it shocked me because before this had sony low end tv even in that it mx player came without stuck.Told the sony technician about it he told may be issue in app but srill not convinced.Please can you tell is it issue in app or tv.
Great review of an exceptional OLED panel. I would WAIT until fall 2021 to get more information on Sony's implementation of eARc. Prices at this point are too high for gamers to speculate. However, if the use case for a A80J does NOT include gaming this would be a very compelling offering.
I have a 65A8G which also has the acoustic surface audio... I hooked up a subwoofer directly to the TV via the headphone out jack (this is a supported feature - in the settings menu) and the sound was awesome. No sound bar required (especially for a bedroom TV). I hope this is still available on the A80J.
KG………great channel, excellent content! Refreshing to see honest opinions and thoughts, also like that you’re active on AVS. Given the fact you’ve owned both the QN90a and now the A80J I’m hoping you can inform me on some questions. I currently own a 75” QN90a and I think it’s an excellent set, though I’m bothered by some issues. First off Im kinda a brightness junkie so that’s why I returned a 65CX for the QN90a and the difference is astonishing. This tv is truly a light canon and can hold great colors at that brightness level, which I love. Im a fan of a vibrant picture with great color “pop”. My set sadly suffers from some pretty bad DSE and the LD can be wonky and annoying at times. This is my first local dimming tv, so maybe it’s just an inherent behavior. I can notice the ever so slight LD delay, also odd brightness variations on overlay menus and text, which is extremely obvious while gaming. My set also likes to reverse the LD settings at random when turning on the unit which prompts me to restart and recheck. Annoying, but I believe this can be ironed out with FW. After watching your review of the C1 A80J comparison it gives me hope OLED can deliver a punchier picture without having to spend a lot of $$$. I noticed a definite difference in picture quality in the A80j being superior to the C1. Given the fact the 77” A80J is now 1k cheaper or the exact price of my QN90a, I am now torn on whether I should return the Samsung and get the Sony. What are your thoughts comparing these two sets, and your preference if you had to make a choice. My time is split around 50/50 games and movies. I have until May 20th to return the QN90a. Thanks man!
That is tough, DSE can be annoying is it something that really bothers you on content? If so don't keep the set. The brightness difference from QN90A to an OLED is pretty big but if you are in a dark room you can make it work your eyes will just have to adjust. Personally I love the QN90A for people who a bright LCD but It really does sound the QN90A's dimming behavior is bothering you a lot so if that + DSE is bothering you it might not be the right TV for you after all. Punchier picture than the QN90A is not going to be delivered by OLED but the picture on both OLEDs can be pretty punchy. Another thing is VRR how much does that matter to you not being there at launch with the A80J. Some things you'll definitely have to weigh.
Could you adress some more attention to sdr content and upscaling, cable sports. Understand it is your not your thing but it matters to some of us😌. Thanks.
@@TechWithKG this would be awesome because the SDR brightness on these new tvs is part of why I'm getting one. I'm basically between the C1 and A80J. I am kinda interested by Sony quality but I know the C1 has all 4 2.1 ports (albeit at 40 and not 48 GBPS) and working VRR is a nice touch. That and I want to use a soundbar system so the height options on the Sony is nice as opposed to the low clearance on the C1
Can't wait to get mine, the only thing or two making me considering he A90j are better audio and no image retention, at least that's what some reviewers say.
Just got the a80j. Picture quality is superior. In terms of gaming, C1 wins slightly and isn’t a big factor since You will need to be esport level to see a significance different but one one is doing that on a tv over a mojitor
Yeah almost got this or the A90J but that input lag on the A90J vs the QN90A was enough for me to be like no which is a shame because the A90J was my first choice I'm not sure what the input lag is on the A80J but it's fine I'm good this year with my choice
@@webinatic216 not bad but I'm very competitive in Gran turismo and in racing you lose quite a bit every corner the more input lag you have. For example if I have 10ms lost every corner vs 16ms it may not seem like much but it is. Honestly I can't wait until everything is 120fps and at 65" the QN90A I felt was the absolute best option for what I wanted overall this year. That might change next year or after.
@@FandangoBatter don't need to do a "blind taste test" if you honestly were a competitive gamer, where a tenth, hundredth or thousandth of a second separated you from a top split FIA race, you'd understand the importance of input delay. Doubt whatever you like
@@apokalypz You'd would loose exactly 6ms throughout the whole game. It doesn't add up. A frame is 16ms. You'd miss nothing in the end. With hdmi 2.1 all games running 120 will have under 9ms.
So after time with both the A80j and the C1 what is YOUR personal preference? For broad spectrum content, TH-cam, movies, gaming, tv shows, everything.
Do you have a video that shows your recommended picture/audio settings for this tv? I really don’t use the Sony remote to operate my A80J, instead using my Amazon Fire Stick as my primary controller. However, I understand that I must use the Sony remote to access all settings for adjustments or tweaking. Thanks!
I do actually th-cam.com/video/f2iRJY_winM/w-d-xo.html hopefully you find it helpful but for movie settings I like the Imax Enhanced or movie mode out of the box to be honest I think thats pretty good.
What are the chances we'll get a Memorial Day sale on a new tv like this one? I'm deciding whether to buy it now for $300 off on sale or wait and see if it goes down even more during Memorial Day weekend.
Are you still responding to comments about this TV? I just picked it up and I’m seeing a lot of blur around movement and all text, is that something you were experiencing at all as well?
I'm just starting my research for a new tv and had narrowed it down to an OLED. What I'm seeing in this review however seems to suggest the need to make (constant?) adjustments in the settings for optimal viewing when switching from one source to another. Such as Digital tv, Netflix, Amazon Prime, BD & Xbox One. Am I wrong about that and if I'm not, is this a common requirement with OLEDs and QLEDs? Ideally, the tv would sense the content and automatically adjust the settings for the best pic quality. Maybe I should stick with my plasma?
Does the A80J have the picture off mode when u click the settings gear? My A90J does but my co worker can't seem to find it on his 77" A80J or is it just absent.
@@TechWithKG I’m gonna have to get the 55 inch too, but does the smaller size affect anything relative to the 77 inch? Is it less immersive, have worse contrast, HDR, etc?
I’m afraid I can’t have it ready that soon if you wanna chat with me on Instagram or something with direct messages, I can try to help you make a decision if possible.
What do you think has more value, the VIP treatment from Value Electronics where they QC the panel, break in the tv and fully calibrate it or a 2-5 year warranty from Best Buy?
Depends how much you care about a truly accurate calibration and how afraid of burn in or other issues are you? These seem like 2 totally different things right?
@@TechWithKG bro I was just about to say the same exact thing! Because I’d go with the calibration but did you’re a major gamer and fear burn in then BB is the only retailer that’ll cover it. Personally I go VE world class calibration
@@TechWithKG burn in isn’t that much of a concern for me anymore. My biggest worry are those screen uniformity issues and the panel lottery considering I really don’t know what to look for. Spending 2k on a 55 I shouldn’t have to worry about those issues. But on the other hand I am more worried about the panel crapping out on me 3-4 years. Haven’t had any issues with any TV’s in the past but is always in the back of my head. Especially at that price.
Hey I gotta question. I’m getting my first oled TV, and I’m pretty dead set on this one. I watch a ton of movies, and play a lot of games. One of my biggest issues with my current LED 4K, is the black levels. It can look pretty grey with movies, but where it’s most noticeable is with games, it gets really cloudy looking during dark sections in games, when using game mode. So I was wondering if oled TVs with game mode on, show up as nearly pure black still, meaning dark sections would look great?
I'm never been a Sony fan I always go with Xbox and Samsung but the true Sony oled is amazing probably best tv now,I went to best buy the other day to check the 📺 and wow the Sony oled look a lot better than LG.
hell I even like their cameras and smart phones better, you are either a Sony boy or you are against them... they just create things with more care to detail.
There are very few games that need VRR on seris X and ps5 plus 120hz is marketing. I have a P seris quantum that does 120 and vrr and it's not much of a improvement. Color and motion are way more important for gaming. I've never been a fan of OLED but will give the a80j a go. Ps if you want to check screen uniformity play "the touryst " and it will show all the defects in your panel.
@Alex Sonne honestly you won't notice, I game on a 120hz in the living room and 60hz in the bedroom and you wouldn't pass a blind test if you didn't know which was which in non 120hz games.
@Alex Sonne 2020 P seris quantum and I just played on my non 120hz and I'm on the 120hz as I'm paused and typing this. There is no discernable difference. Anything below 20 is great for a tv.
@Alex Sonne not trying to be an ass but I think it's in your head. It's just another way to sell new tvs, well it's appears according to rtings.com my TV has the same input lag at 4k60 that it does at 4k120 which doesn't seem accurate so maybe that's why I don't see a difference I don't know.
I was comparing X900h vs C9, I found X900h very similar to C9 shadow details when gamma set to 1.9 I hope you address this finding, are the shadow details on A80J similar to C9 when C9 set to gamma 1.9? I mean which gamma on C9 equal to default A80J gamma (equal in shadow details) SDR? or just me comparing LED VS OLED!
Should be fine as long as you vary your content, if your on the same content daily over time it may be a problem so look into higher end LCD if this the case .
@@TechWithKG Disney+: Mandalorian S02E05. From 17.00 when Ahsoka and Grogu are "talking" each other. Very dark scene. Check for flashing artifacts on black bars, and macro blocking in dark areas. Many thanks !
KG I just bought last week Samsung Qn90a 65 inch for $2199.99 from Best Buy and now I saw a Sony A80J 65 inch open box certied for $2089.99, what you recomend me keep the Samsung or exchange it for the Sony? Just for youtube, and bluray /4k movies I'm not a gamer, thanks for your help!
Huge improvement over all older Sonys because two HDMI 2.1 ports, better Dolby Vision (TV led), built in chrome cast, Bravia core, and ATSC 3.0 next gen TV tuner
I’m wanting one of these primarily for gaming on the PS5. Anyone know how it performs on gaming and did they ever release the update for VRR and Low latency input?
I just bought the sony oled a80j. Of all the preset picture modes, I noticed the vivid mode makes everything in the picture move faster. It's distracting. For example if a bird is flying and flapping their wings, but if changed to vivid, they flapping faster, people moving faster. It's weird. It's like a movie is subtlety fast forwarding. Can u help me out?
Instead of vivid try custom, change peak brightness to high black stretch to high and live color to high, adv contrast to high should make a more accurate vivid mode. Try Reality creation to 40 as well let me know how you like those settings.
@@TechWithKG if I use a sound system down the track, can the switch just plug in one of the other regular hdmi ports and I be fine? Sorry I'm not too tech savvy
@@TechWithKG so does that mean in my scenario, I would be able to connect a sound bar and ps5 to both HDMI 2.1 ports and then the switch to one of the HDMI 2.0 ports and be fine?
cx and c1 no dts is an absolute no from me. As Dolby digital introduces a noticeable lag compared to DTS. So i am eyeing this tv here for my xbox series x. On the other hand No vrr is also puzzling. Wtf Sony?
I have A80j this is the beeesttt tv you will ever owned the speakers are amazing really Dolby Atmos you don’t need to buy Soundsbar and the colors this is a really full package tv
@@TechWithKG I’m think about the A80J ay 65”. I currently have a JBL sound bar with subwoofer. Does Sony sell a sub that will work with this TV wirelessly ?
Isn't it amazing how brightness tests don't prove anything about the tv it matters how it handles content if we went by numbers the c1 would be brighter yet during content the a80j is brighter and I do know that pretty cool stuff
@@TechWithKG exactly man I think the a80j is the sleeper for thus yesr its bright for an oeld and closer to the a90j then people expect and still has everything else besides the sound so imo for 1k less it's a great deal
Yeah for sure and im hearing that the prices will likely drop 55 inch 1899 and 65 inch 2499 . Military has this price already and some users said Amazon had those prices for a little bit but they flipped back.
@@TechWithKG yeah man pretty good stuff I mean it doesn't have the hearsink but it's crazy to see what the xr processor does Sony wasn't lieing when they said it has alot to do with there processor lol
Took back the C1 This panel is just so good! I have seen the A90J A family member has it and the only thing we notice is the brightness is better on the A90J but really not by a lot! Can't be happier with this panel it's better then the A8H that I have in another room!
I'll probably try the a80j when it's cheaper latter this year. I have a 4k120 vrr tv in the living room those features are overated and marketing in my opinion. The only game I've needed VRR on is valhalla. Most of the ps5 and seris X games aren't really gonna need vrr. Also 120hz doesn't really seem that great over 60.
If I missed anything or you got a request to see something in the C1 comparison video coming soon let me know below.
Please have review by tomorrow comparison please with c1
Wish to know the impact of the ABL bro, something so many people leave out, I guess it's hard to explain but would be great for a comparison, how hard kicks the ABL in HDR.
For sure, I will try to find some real scene tests for ABL on the side by side other than traditional ABL test patterns.
Sdr and hdr nit test? :)
Great review, I'm thinking of this instead of the A90j, as I'm not sure the price difference is worth it, I don't do any gaming, so those features don't bother me at all.
This model is getting some frest reviews.
I have had this Tv for 3 months now. I can tell you it is amazing. The picture is jaw dropping. Makes me love TV again. Best TV for the money that you can buy. I change channels sometimes just to see what something looks like on this screen. Awesome.
I just bought this. Can you please share the best hd picture settings?
Great review about a great tv. I just bought a 55” A80J and I agree with the reviewer that the sound is amazing. I now use my sound bar with a different tv since I don’t need it with this one.
Just bought the A80j and looking through all the you tube videos, there are lots bashing this tv, but I didn’t understand, cos I was really impressed with it. Initially I was disappointed with the brightness, having come from a Sony led before this, but now realise that I probably had my tv too bright before, now with the A80j everything looks more natural and really pops with the right content. This is a great review, I like the way you encourage experimentation with the picture, and not just saying that various settings are just wrong, it comes down to personal preference, who cares if it was supposed to look a certain way, you need to be happy with what you see yourself.
Did you consider the C1 ? If so, why did you go for the sony?
@@attilamorvai I think what swayed me towards the Sony was that most of the reviews gave the Sony better picture quality and motion processing and the gaming features will come in the future, so the Sony seemed the better choice as I want it mainly for tv and movies. Overall am really happy with my choice and don’t regret my choice.
@@nigelbush8020 thank you for taking your time to answer, i myself never play and will only use it for tv and movies some times…but what about sony compared to lg regarding future proof?
@@attilamorvai Sony have always kept their promise to update tv features, so I am confident that the A80j will eventually be equal to the c1 in features, as well as having better picture and motion, unlike Samsung who seem to promise a lot and rarely deliver what they promise
Who’s been bashing the A80J? I’ve only seen praise
You're going to become one of the best channels of tv's bro, keep up the GREAT content, and keep specializing the content for gamers, we don't have much reference in that regard on this level on youtube, that's why my reference it's you. Big hug brother.
Wow thank you so much. I will definitely keep the content coming!
I just got the A80J on Monday and the built in speakers are better quality than my older Vizio soundbar setup which was like $300. Haha
Nice yeah I believe it I’m going to test it up against the Sonos beam stand-alone and see if it can compete
I’ve got the 55” A80J with the Sony HTS400 soundbar with a Subwoofer. The sound and picture quality is amazing, I also bought the backlit remote from the A90 which works perfectly with the A80.
You can call him biased, but I 100% agree with the review. My 75" 800H went bad under warranty, so was deciding on two TV options to replace at Best Buy. I compared to the C1 77" and the X90J 75". A80J blew the X90J away and the sound and video upscaling blew the C1 away. If just playing HD though, the A80J and C1 appeared the same.
I've been looking for my first oled tv. My older sony led is 8 years old now. Your video here just pushed me toward my first choice here. The Sony A80j is now at 1799.00. Great video review here. Thank you.
It’s a great TV and that’s a really good price for the 65 inch! Did you end up getting it?
@@TechWithKG next week. Been looking for awhile now.
Just got a 55” on Amazon prime for $998. Brand new!
I just purchased this television and should be delivered in a few days. Being 73 years old this new technology has me a little concerned. I do think this is the best television for the money but with all the settings you can change, the possibilities are numerous. Since I’m home all the time I wanted to have a television that gives me the best picture for movies, shows and sports. Hopefully I can find a good setting for all because I don’t want to have to change settings every time I change a channel or go from live tv to Blu-ray. Wish me luck I’m really anxious to get this thing.
Can’t wait for c1 vs a80j
Me too ...
Can't wait for c1 vs cx vs a80j
Sony A90J is the GOAT and Bravia Core is a low key MONSTER!!
Another quality content of my favorite TV guy!
Thank you!
@@TechWithKG what's your take on the a80j competition, you receive the a90j tomorrow I think
HGIG gives the best colors and the highest specular highlight, so I look for these aspect if you want HGIG maybe off is HGIG
TM off with LG similar to HGIG but sometimes highlights get washed out
also my C9 is 14/14 clicks until white Square disappear and with TM 25 /25 clicks on PS5 HDR calibration
I Just bought the 77" lmao thxx for the review my dude!
How are you liking it? I think I’m going with exactly what you got over a 65” a90j. The detail in high & low seems to be better on the a80j in my opinion.
Just ordered a 77” A80j, my current tv is a 70” Japan imported Sharp LC-70X5 costs $10k in 2011. I hope the A80J last for another 10years
This is the tv I’ll be getting in the fall
Nice! I think you’ll like it I haven’t heard too many people who didn’t.
Great review I am thinking of buying the A90J later in the year for moving watching , as soon as the 48 inch C1 Oled goes on sale going to get that for gaming , and video editing . We need that side by side comparison between the A90J and the A80J to see if that thousand dollar difference is justified.
Great review! Thank you. G1 vs. A80j?
C1* 🥰
G1 is not worth it.
C1 vs a80j please and thank you, g1 is definitely not worth it over the c1 basically same thing
Won't be able to do the G1 vs A80J I don't believe it will line up but C1 vs A80J should be pretty telling, not a huge jump to G1 from C1.
G1 is basically 99% C1, except the wall mount
Like you suggest, it’s my TV and the setting are going to be WHAT I LIKE.
Looking forward to more! Any judder in games panning/rotating? x90j had a problem with this, but was fixed with a recent firmware update.
A80J doesn't seem to have any issue with panning or rotating the camera in games.
@@TechWithKG what's the shadow detail like in dark scenes
It’s really good the shadow detail is very impressive it’s a strong suit for the A80J
Great Video as always 👍
thanks!
KG awesome ! this is the one I've been waiting for, if you're going to go with a Sony OLED 77" your options are limited , looking forward to your breakdown of this unit with brightness readings and your recommendations.
Thanks! yeah I’ll try and give the best comparison I can.
Just FYI and exchanged it and I'm happy bc the A80J it's amAzing!
I just ordered one of these over a C1 for a couple reasons. I'm probably not going to game with it and it $100 cheaper at the time of purchase for a 65". Honesty it was a tough call because they are really close in my opinion but to me overall picture quality in non gaming situations was my priority. I also liked the adjustable stand and next gen tuner.
Awesome review of this TV bro
Thanks!
Thanks for this detailed examination of the A80J. I'm considering getting one of these myself. Tell me, I'm sure you've looked at the A90. I found it to be too bright in the highlights, to the point of it giving me eye strain and very uncomfortable to look at for more than a couple minutes. Did you find this to be the case also?
that has happened to me with the hisense, I now no longer favor max brightness, a properly set up oled makes infinitely more sense.
Bought sonya80j few days back when opening mx player tv app and playing a movie in it ,the video just getting frozen only the audio is playing ,it shocked me because before this had sony low end tv even in that it mx player came without stuck.Told the sony technician about it he told may be issue in app but srill not convinced.Please can you tell is it issue in app or tv.
Great review of an exceptional OLED panel. I would WAIT until fall 2021 to get more information on Sony's implementation of eARc. Prices at this point are too high for gamers to speculate. However, if the use case for a A80J does NOT include gaming this would be a very compelling offering.
Yeah definitely I agree wait if you don’t have any urgency to upgrade your TV.
I have a 65A8G which also has the acoustic surface audio... I hooked up a subwoofer directly to the TV via the headphone out jack (this is a supported feature - in the settings menu) and the sound was awesome. No sound bar required (especially for a bedroom TV). I hope this is still available on the A80J.
I’ll look into this that would be pretty cool
The tv is deep . In some comparison videos , i see a80j have depth in the images .. but i
Have to see it in real life in the storr before deciding
Yeah there’s some noticeable depth to the picture quality even in sdr 720p content
KG………great channel, excellent content! Refreshing to see honest opinions and thoughts, also like that you’re active on AVS. Given the fact you’ve owned both the QN90a and now the A80J I’m hoping you can inform me on some questions. I currently own a 75” QN90a and I think it’s an excellent set, though I’m bothered by some issues. First off Im kinda a brightness junkie so that’s why I returned a 65CX for the QN90a and the difference is astonishing. This tv is truly a light canon and can hold great colors at that brightness level, which I love. Im a fan of a vibrant picture with great color “pop”. My set sadly suffers from some pretty bad DSE and the LD can be wonky and annoying at times. This is my first local dimming tv, so maybe it’s just an inherent behavior. I can notice the ever so slight LD delay, also odd brightness variations on overlay menus and text, which is extremely obvious while gaming. My set also likes to reverse the LD settings at random when turning on the unit which prompts me to restart and recheck. Annoying, but I believe this can be ironed out with FW. After watching your review of the C1 A80J comparison it gives me hope OLED can deliver a punchier picture without having to spend a lot of $$$. I noticed a definite difference in picture quality in the A80j being superior to the C1. Given the fact the 77” A80J is now 1k cheaper or the exact price of my QN90a, I am now torn on whether I should return the Samsung and get the Sony. What are your thoughts comparing these two sets, and your preference if you had to make a choice. My time is split around 50/50 games and movies. I have until May 20th to return the QN90a. Thanks man!
That is tough, DSE can be annoying is it something that really bothers you on content? If so don't keep the set. The brightness difference from QN90A to an OLED is pretty big but if you are in a dark room you can make it work your eyes will just have to adjust. Personally I love the QN90A for people who a bright LCD but It really does sound the QN90A's dimming behavior is bothering you a lot so if that + DSE is bothering you it might not be the right TV for you after all. Punchier picture than the QN90A is not going to be delivered by OLED but the picture on both OLEDs can be pretty punchy. Another thing is VRR how much does that matter to you not being there at launch with the A80J. Some things you'll definitely have to weigh.
Great TV, especially if you have an AVR and decent speakers. Godzilla Vs Kong was like being at the cinema.
ordered A80J 65"
Congrats!
Could you adress some more attention to sdr content and upscaling, cable sports. Understand it is your not your thing but it matters to some of us😌. Thanks.
Yeah I will check this out and put it in the review or maybe I’ll do a sdr specific video. Because it is impressive.
@@TechWithKG this would be awesome because the SDR brightness on these new tvs is part of why I'm getting one. I'm basically between the C1 and A80J. I am kinda interested by Sony quality but I know the C1 has all 4 2.1 ports (albeit at 40 and not 48 GBPS) and working VRR is a nice touch. That and I want to use a soundbar system so the height options on the Sony is nice as opposed to the low clearance on the C1
@@TechWithKG I'm also coming from a 1080p insignia so idk how much I'll notice vrr but it's nice to have especially with the 120hz gaming on xbox
Can't wait to get mine, the only thing or two making me considering he A90j are better audio and no image retention, at least that's what some reviewers say.
Both of those things are true but the price gap isn't worth it for most people I feel unless money isn't factoring into your purchase decision.
I agree. That's why I'm ordering one soon :-)
How much nits?
Just got the a80j. Picture quality is superior. In terms of gaming, C1 wins slightly and isn’t a big factor since You will need to be esport level to see a significance different but one one is doing that on a tv over a mojitor
I just bought the a80 j
Thank you KG
how is the motion and imagine retention on the tv
Image retention is not great but it does clear up within seconds, but the motion is excellent
Yeah almost got this or the A90J but that input lag on the A90J vs the QN90A was enough for me to be like no which is a shame because the A90J was my first choice I'm not sure what the input lag is on the A80J but it's fine I'm good this year with my choice
How is 16 ms bad? That's literally 1 frame out of 60 that you'll miss compared to 0.8 frames of 60 on the Samsung.
@@webinatic216 not bad but I'm very competitive in Gran turismo and in racing you lose quite a bit every corner the more input lag you have. For example if I have 10ms lost every corner vs 16ms it may not seem like much but it is. Honestly I can't wait until everything is 120fps and at 65" the QN90A I felt was the absolute best option for what I wanted overall this year. That might change next year or after.
@@apokalypz seriously I doubt you'd be able to tell the difference between 10ms and 16ms in a blind taste test.
@@FandangoBatter don't need to do a "blind taste test" if you honestly were a competitive gamer, where a tenth, hundredth or thousandth of a second separated you from a top split FIA race, you'd understand the importance of input delay. Doubt whatever you like
@@apokalypz You'd would loose exactly 6ms throughout the whole game. It doesn't add up. A frame is 16ms. You'd miss nothing in the end. With hdmi 2.1 all games running 120 will have under 9ms.
So after time with both the A80j and the C1 what is YOUR personal preference? For broad spectrum content, TH-cam, movies, gaming, tv shows, everything.
Do you have a video that shows your recommended picture/audio settings for this tv? I really don’t use the Sony remote to operate my A80J, instead using my Amazon Fire Stick as my primary controller. However, I understand that I must use the Sony remote to access all settings for adjustments or tweaking. Thanks!
I do actually th-cam.com/video/f2iRJY_winM/w-d-xo.html hopefully you find it helpful but for movie settings I like the Imax Enhanced or movie mode out of the box to be honest I think thats pretty good.
What are the chances we'll get a Memorial Day sale on a new tv like this one? I'm deciding whether to buy it now for $300 off on sale or wait and see if it goes down even more during Memorial Day weekend.
The 65 inch is already on sale. It’s possible other sizes might go on sale
77” dropped 1k!
A80J and A90J both also come with built in chrome cast and ATSC 3.0 next gen TV tuners
Are you still responding to comments about this TV? I just picked it up and I’m seeing a lot of blur around movement and all text, is that something you were experiencing at all as well?
Where do you search to get these great test videos?
I would like to see if the 120fps with 4k works well at least.
It does, no issues
I'm just starting my research for a new tv and had narrowed it down to an OLED. What I'm seeing in this review however seems to suggest the need to make (constant?) adjustments in the settings for optimal viewing when switching from one source to another. Such as Digital tv, Netflix, Amazon Prime, BD & Xbox One. Am I wrong about that and if I'm not, is this a common requirement with OLEDs and QLEDs? Ideally, the tv would sense the content and automatically adjust the settings for the best pic quality. Maybe I should stick with my plasma?
No not necessarily I think you could stay in one mode I honestly like the way “imax enhanced” looks out of the box on these Sony TVs.
Does the A80J have the picture off mode when u click the settings gear? My A90J does but my co worker can't seem to find it on his 77" A80J or is it just absent.
I just just just brought this TV from Costco; 5 year warranty included.
Nice congrats!!
Does semi gloss of the A80j impact the quality picture. I want to buy the 55inch.
nope
@@TechWithKG I’m gonna have to get the 55 inch too, but does the smaller size affect anything relative to the 77 inch? Is it less immersive, have worse contrast, HDR, etc?
your opinion is 💥💥
C1 vs a80j please fast 🥰"
Actually filming it right now hoping to get it up next week, I got the C1 gaming review going live on Monday.
@@TechWithKG please make the review if possible by Monday ☹️. On Tuesday, I’ll be buying one or the other .
I’m afraid I can’t have it ready that soon if you wanna chat with me on Instagram or something with direct messages, I can try to help you make a decision if possible.
@@TechWithKG just dmed you on Instagram . I think it’s the correct one I dmed
@@TechWithKG U can do it plz 🥰.
What do you think has more value, the VIP treatment from Value Electronics where they QC the panel, break in the tv and fully calibrate it or a 2-5 year warranty from Best Buy?
Depends how much you care about a truly accurate calibration and how afraid of burn in or other issues are you?
These seem like 2 totally different things right?
@@TechWithKG bro I was just about to say the same exact thing! Because I’d go with the calibration but did you’re a major gamer and fear burn in then BB is the only retailer that’ll cover it.
Personally I go VE world class calibration
@@TechWithKG burn in isn’t that much of a concern for me anymore. My biggest worry are those screen uniformity issues and the panel lottery considering I really don’t know what to look for. Spending 2k on a 55 I shouldn’t have to worry about those issues. But on the other hand I am more worried about the panel crapping out on me 3-4 years. Haven’t had any issues with any TV’s in the past but is always in the back of my head. Especially at that price.
Hi can you tell me the difference in lg c1 vs sony a80j . Just for gaming please of course I’ll watch tv but I play Xbox series x and ps5
Hey I gotta question. I’m getting my first oled TV, and I’m pretty dead set on this one. I watch a ton of movies, and play a lot of games. One of my biggest issues with my current LED 4K, is the black levels. It can look pretty grey with movies, but where it’s most noticeable is with games, it gets really cloudy looking during dark sections in games, when using game mode. So I was wondering if oled TVs with game mode on, show up as nearly pure black still, meaning dark sections would look great?
Yeah you still get the same black levels in game mode no worry!
If you’re heavily into gaming and planning on a next gen console, you may look into the LG C1 and G1 as well.
@@dylanhumphrey2479 update: we have a 77” inch A80j in out theatre room, and in my gaming room I have a 65” LG C1. Both are fantastic
@@mrdvb5069 hell yeah man!!!
How do I program my Spectrom remote control, to turn this tv HDMI # 1 on, so we can control this tv so I don't have to use my Sony remote ?
I'm never been a Sony fan I always go with Xbox and Samsung but the true Sony oled is amazing probably best tv now,I went to best buy the other day to check the 📺 and wow the Sony oled look a lot better than LG.
Sony's image always stomps Samsung and LG!
hell I even like their cameras and smart phones better, you are either a Sony boy or you are against them... they just create things with more care to detail.
@@ManuelMedellin. Too many cheapskates whine about Sony's prices, too. A lot of people don't seem to understand that you get what you pay for.
Good review.
In my opinion, you shouldn't have to be lucky to get a uniform panel from these companies. Not when you're paying this kind of money.
I agree 100% panel lottery is an unfair circumstance we have to deal with as consumers.
Qn90a vs a80j 👌
hahaha I just pulled the trigger right now. Best Buy has this 65" TV for $2499. Great video, I had the C1 and returned it.
That price drop was very welcomed for sure!
Why return the C1? Just out of curiosity. Only because of the deal on the a80?
There are very few games that need VRR on seris X and ps5 plus 120hz is marketing. I have a P seris quantum that does 120 and vrr and it's not much of a improvement. Color and motion are way more important for gaming. I've never been a fan of OLED but will give the a80j a go. Ps if you want to check screen uniformity play "the touryst " and it will show all the defects in your panel.
Cool thanks for the tip ill look into that.
@Alex Sonne honestly you won't notice, I game on a 120hz in the living room and 60hz in the bedroom and you wouldn't pass a blind test if you didn't know which was which in non 120hz games.
@Alex Sonne 2020 P seris quantum and I just played on my non 120hz and I'm on the 120hz as I'm paused and typing this. There is no discernable difference. Anything below 20 is great for a tv.
@Alex Sonne not trying to be an ass but I think it's in your head. It's just another way to sell new tvs, well it's appears according to rtings.com my TV has the same input lag at 4k60 that it does at 4k120 which doesn't seem accurate so maybe that's why I don't see a difference I don't know.
I was comparing X900h vs C9, I found X900h very similar to C9 shadow details when gamma set to 1.9
I hope you address this finding, are the shadow details on A80J similar to C9 when C9 set to gamma 1.9? I mean which gamma on C9 equal to default A80J gamma (equal in shadow details) SDR?
or just me comparing LED VS OLED!
A80J vs LGC1 would be awesome thank you
Hello, is it okay to use it for 10-12 hours a day? I heard there is an issue with burn in. Thanks
Should be fine as long as you vary your content, if your on the same content daily over time it may be a problem so look into higher end LCD if this the case .
i have a80j and its not connecting 4k 120 hz with asus rog strix rtx 3080. Does it not support yet? i have fiber hdmi 2.1 cable.
What demo/disc is that playing in the background?
Awesome review! What is the approx nits on the Sony a80j?
Thank you. I thought it was 700-750 but apparently that’s just on a 10% window hearing people are getting readings of 850-900 nits on a 1% window
@@TechWithKG Thanks for the quick response. Cheers :)
I love it. Will never go back to samsung tv..
Can you check for macro-blocking and chrominance overshoot on very dark scenes on Dolby Vision ?
It was an issue on 2 last years sony oled products !
Got any scenes on streaming services I can check this for?
@@TechWithKG Disney+: Mandalorian S02E05. From 17.00 when Ahsoka and Grogu are "talking" each other. Very dark scene. Check for flashing artifacts on black bars, and macro blocking in dark areas. Many thanks !
KG by not having eARC will that effect people that just watch movies
GREAT VIDEO! And I have A90J dude the Bravia Core is way better than I thought. Sony has a serious low key movie library!
Oh I forgot about Bravia core!! Thx I gotta check this out
Does it get hot like the a90j???
It's actually good that the heat leaves the panel. Otherwise it stays inside the tv and kills the oled faster.
I felt the back of the panel after running it for 2-3 hours wasn't any hotter than other TVs nothing alarming discovered on that front.
@@TechWithKG yes correct since A80J no heat sink I don’t think it’s any hotter than other normal OLEDs
My a90j doesn't get hot
Yeah I haven’t really experienced this TV getting much hotter than the A80J to be honest which I didn’t notice getting hot.
Plz compared with c1 , I think tomorrow i buy c1 but i whiting to the compared .
@@ansnfbsknanssshshbsnsndnd5438 really !! Gosh, what u going to do? Can you picture it for me?
Hye sir can this tv wall mounted?
Yeah
KG I just bought last week Samsung Qn90a 65 inch for $2199.99 from Best Buy and now I saw a Sony A80J 65 inch open box certied for $2089.99, what you recomend me keep the Samsung or exchange it for the Sony? Just for youtube, and bluray /4k movies I'm not a gamer, thanks for your help!
You don’t like the Samsung?
Yes I do like it but for the price on that open box certified A80j got me thinking twice though....
Is it huge improvement over the a8h and is it brighter?
Huge improvement over all older Sonys because two HDMI 2.1 ports, better Dolby Vision (TV led), built in chrome cast, Bravia core, and ATSC 3.0 next gen TV tuner
@@playafly131 and is it brighter ?
@@SantiSanti-xz1ww that I don’t know. From what I’m reading not much in strict brightness
I’m wanting one of these primarily for gaming on the PS5. Anyone know how it performs on gaming and did they ever release the update for VRR and Low latency input?
Nope. Better off with the C1 for gaming.
I just bought the sony oled a80j. Of all the preset picture modes, I noticed the vivid mode makes everything in the picture move faster. It's distracting. For example if a bird is flying and flapping their wings, but if changed to vivid, they flapping faster, people moving faster. It's weird. It's like a movie is subtlety fast forwarding. Can u help me out?
Instead of vivid try custom, change peak brightness to high black stretch to high and live color to high, adv contrast to high should make a more accurate vivid mode. Try Reality creation to 40 as well let me know how you like those settings.
@@TechWithKG awesome thanks. I'll let u know. Did u change your other modes like imax and cinema? Or is it factory settings
@Tech With KG hey I have a ps5 and nintendo switch will the limited hdmi 2.1 ports be a disadvantage?
Absolutely not. Only if you get a series x and your using the earc port for a sound system.
@@TechWithKG if I use a sound system down the track, can the switch just plug in one of the other regular hdmi ports and I be fine? Sorry I'm not too tech savvy
Yeah a hdmi 2.1 switch has to go into one of the hdmi 2.1 ports
@@TechWithKG so does that mean in my scenario, I would be able to connect a sound bar and ps5 to both HDMI 2.1 ports and then the switch to one of the HDMI 2.0 ports and be fine?
Really wish they had this in a 50 inch or 48 inch
Yeah that would be nice, weird that they don't
Hi KG what's the demo at the start please?
My bad I didn't see this comment sooner I believe its LG's "The Wild 2"
Is the remote backlit?
Nope just backlit on A90J
cx and c1 no dts is an absolute no from me. As Dolby digital introduces a noticeable lag compared to DTS. So i am eyeing this tv here for my xbox series x. On the other hand No vrr is also puzzling. Wtf Sony?
When vrr?
I see a lot of Sony Pony's in here.. can you all even wait for a comparison video to pass judgment?
You. Are. IT. 👍🏾
The new Sony OLEDS are truly something
Yeah that’s for sure
I have A80j this is the beeesttt tv you will ever owned the speakers are amazing really Dolby Atmos you don’t need to buy Soundsbar and the colors this is a really full package tv
Yeah its a great TV, and the the sound is incredible for a TV a good all in one solution for people needing that.
@@TechWithKG I’m think about the A80J ay 65”. I currently have a JBL sound bar with subwoofer. Does Sony sell a sub that will work with this TV wirelessly ?
Do you have the 65 or 77? Because the speakers in the 65 are 30W while in the 77 they are 50W
Does this tv support bbc I player etc
8:50 what's the LG demo video called?
Evo light up your world
@@TechWithKG thank you kind sir. I'm getting this TV too.
Nice! Let me know how you like it when you get to watch a few things on it!
Ok thanks
So when is vrr coming?
Sony: say what?
Lol
Thank you 👍🏼👍🏼🇦🇺
Isn't it amazing how brightness tests don't prove anything about the tv it matters how it handles content if we went by numbers the c1 would be brighter yet during content the a80j is brighter and I do know that pretty cool stuff
Yeah definitely I can tell the A80J is very selective with brightness but it is more impactful and I feel like ABL is more relaxed
@@TechWithKG exactly man I think the a80j is the sleeper for thus yesr its bright for an oeld and closer to the a90j then people expect and still has everything else besides the sound so imo for 1k less it's a great deal
Yeah for sure and im hearing that the prices will likely drop 55 inch 1899 and 65 inch 2499 . Military has this price already and some users said Amazon had those prices for a little bit but they flipped back.
@@TechWithKG yeah man pretty good stuff I mean it doesn't have the hearsink but it's crazy to see what the xr processor does Sony wasn't lieing when they said it has alot to do with there processor lol
Took back the C1 This panel is just so good! I have seen the A90J A family member has it and the only thing we notice is the brightness is better on the A90J but really not by a lot! Can't be happier with this panel it's better then the A8H that I have in another room!
It's more then more brightness colour accuracy motion processing and upscaling are better on Sony A90J Master Series OLED TV and A80J over C1 and G1
Yeah this TV is impressing me beyond expectations, the clarity it produces is insane.
@@TechWithKG Is nearly as good as Sony Bravia A90J Master Series OLED TV
I’m excited to put them side by side in a few weeks!
@@TechWithKG Cool I read A90J better a more accurate colours lot brighter
I'll probably try the a80j when it's cheaper latter this year. I have a 4k120 vrr tv in the living room those features are overated and marketing in my opinion. The only game I've needed VRR on is valhalla. Most of the ps5 and seris X games aren't really gonna need vrr. Also 120hz doesn't really seem that great over 60.
I think A80J beats C1 and even G1. A90J can only be compared to Panasonic HZ2000
Lol
Do LG G1 OLED B Sony Bravia A90J Master Series OLED TV