While there's many ways to approach mining I feel this is the most reliable for new players and is best suited to be the very first mining craft you create.. We will of course go into more complex designs later in the series :) Was also derping out a bit with this episode, kept forgetting parts!
+w4stedspace You might want to add rotor handle for solar panels, so they follow the sun (giving around 18,5 each at any moment after sunrise). Also, did you try to create effective wheeled drill with robotic hand? I spent like 6 hours fighting the bugs when terrain change it's structure due to drilling and destroys my entire craft, not to mention drill itself become overweighted and breaks the arm, so i have to manually transfer the ore out of it into storage.
+W4stedspace , a full cargo of stone would weigh the same in x1, x5, or x10, it's just in the x10 there's ten times as much stone (by volume) and in x5 there's five times as much stone (by volume). This was a balancing mechanic to make it so people playing at inventory modifiers weren't disadvantaged compared to the x1 people after the cargo update. I'd put some "power efficiency" modules on the refinery, and move the assembler so you can put 4 on it as well, this would greatly reduce the power needed by both of them, reducing it to about a full solar panel for each the refinery and the assembler. This is helped because, besides the 8 motors required for 4 of them (so 16 in total for both refinery and assembler), this is entirely iron. Exact numbers: with 0 power efficiency modules they run at 560 kW, and with 4 installed they run at 112kW, at maximum efficiency a (large ship) solar panel will create 120kW.
Important note on batteries: if some batteries are set to discharge, and some to recharge, the discharging batteries attempt to recharge the recharging batteries, at 80% efficiency. THIS IS A REALLY FAST WAY TO LOSE ALL YOUR POWER FOR NOTHING. You are better off leaving all boxes unchecked (and leaving some backup batteries off) while refining and assembling.
+r3dp9 Yup, but as mentioned in this vid it sometimes switches battery states when you reload the game I think, either way they change sometimes without me doing anything! Wasn't an intended setup. Only time I have some batts charging and others diischarging is when I'm charging up the miiner batteries.. kinda have to then.
+w4stedspace Hmm, didn't know reloading the game could change the batteries. I'll have to keep that in mind. Sounds like you'll be explaining the batteries in detail in the next episode. I look forward to testing your miner design, along with the right click trick. So far your tutorials have been extremely thorough and easy to follow, I really appreciate how you've chosen to do this series.
+w4stedspace From the video, looks like you only welded up the second battery on the miner then went on to other things. Didn't seem to have switched it out of it's starting state. Battery 2 welded at 23:07 then you immediately go on to your nifty coasting engine group. Re-watched video until your edit cut and didn't see you go to Battery 2.
Came to say big thank you for making these vids, when I started out Space Engineers your basic survival guide helped me alot as a stepping stone into the wider Space Engineers world. Having over 200+ hours of building fun of all sorts of crazy stuff. And it's all thanks to you my dude, cheers! I've watched and followed your vids to the letter and learnt how to build everything. I kinda miss those giant landers, they had a better tutorial level of "I can repurpose this into a flying base" or just turn it into a base wherever you land afterwards. The smaller new lander you get doesnt do that as much, other than a Mining Ship perhaps.
Please make more episodes. This series is awesome. Just got into the game a week ago and have been playing hours each day cuz it's addicting as hell. I've managed to make exact duplicates of your ships and I have upgraded them a little and used a few mods like the small ship blocks mod so I could put a driving seat on my rover so it would be easier to drive. Nice vids. Keep em up. Subbed!
I've been using your dampener thruster idea for more than a year now in my designs instead calling it drift. It makes any ship handle better. Glad to see someone else came down the same path.
I like to say hi, and THANK YOU! I am fairly new to SE, but due to your explanations of things, I have learned a great deal. Seeing as your doing Power next episode... Most of the time folks are tearing the lander down completely, and in doing so are losing the batteries. I have found a solution for it, and a way of saving them. I don't know how to make videos, so thought if I explain to you, you might be able to replicate. I build a small atmo ship, basicly 2 small thrusters in all directions, except down. Down I put 2 large. 2 Gyros, and build the landing gear. Chop the top off the ship, and all but 1 connecting blocks, land the flyer on the battery, lock gear, chop block, fly up just a bit, add merge block, and add merge block to station, fly to base connect..rinse repeat.
+Фарух Мухамедов As w4sted mentioned, you have to reload the game. Then after that, assign your ship's "weapon" to be the drills, and then you can right click.
@@crisis8v88 3 years later and youve answered what ive been searching for forever now thanks a bunch got this game less than a week ago and already at 100 hours lol
Well done. The quality of your videos, the quality of the content is fantastic. I love this game but I am forever frustrated playing it. Your videos help a lot. Thank you.
Small tip for a more comfortable mining: Connect a small conveyer sorter+ejector to your conveyer system and let it drop all stone/ice you're picking off while mining. You can mine longer and won't waste refinery space with stone in this way.
My mate recommended this game, figured i'd hop on here to check it out a bit, after watching your vids, not only am i buying the game, but i feel confident that i can at least get started. subbed, hope you keep these coming! :)
Great video, I spent half a day fighting with this problem on my world yesterday. Mine works but it takes a TON more resources to get off the group and work right.
This is probably one of the most viable mining ships (love the explanation about the forward thrusters). If you didn't want to remove the backward thruster next to the cargo hold, you could have just connected the pipes to the connector above it.
This new player thanks you. Side note: If you turn off the front thrusters, don't forget to turn them back on if you decide you're going to fly towards mountains. Rest in pieces, Miner 01.
Very well done tutorial, even I could understand it. I discovered that you can override your thrusters (up or down) and in combination with "damping" the reverse ones, you get a nice control with very little power usage in atmo. Subbed ;)
Very informative thanks first. Looking forward to playing my survival scenario this weekend and builing a similar miner. There have been issues with my designs.
Very nice starter mining ship, everything it needs ... except perhaps one thing, which ain't that important, but for me is part of the realism. A merge block on the back end of the ship, just in case you run out of power in a tunnel , will ensure you can hook up your stranded miner to a recovery vehicle. Off course you would need materials to build such a vehicle, which is not in the budget when you just start out, but later ...
A few things. Thrusters do not care where they are on the ship. As long as they are not part of a separate grid (i.e. connected to a rotor or piston not directly on the ship) they always apply their thrust to the center of mass. So thrusters can be asymmetrical and not cause any rotation. And the 10x inventory setting your kinda right on, it scales the volume containers and you can hold but also inversely scales the weight. So a full medium cargo hold on 1x will weigh the same as 10x but hold 1/10th the volume. So if your ship supports a full load on 10x it will on 1x too, albeit its a smaller load but both loads weigh the same.
also inventory size does not only affect cargos, as WastedSpace said. it affects your personal inventory, and the inventory of every block in the game: refineries, cockipts, assemblers, drills, welders, grinders, etc
Wow, re-created this build today, and it looks amazing compared to the 2015 models and textures! Looks like a proper piece of industrial equipment, despite having thrusters poking out everywhere, that is lol
Thank you for making this video! i couldn't figure out how to make a mining ship without it getting stuck in the ground. In fact, i didn't know that two batteries would be enough, so i put 6 small reactors on it and still had overloading problems. it takes a long time to refine all the uranium i need though.
I'm guessing KSH has changed some things that affect this design. I just built it, following the video, pausing at each step. when finished the thing could not even lift it's own mass when empty! I doubt it's inventory multiplier since i'm using the same x10 you are.
At the Moment, since the last Patch, you have to be careful with mining. First as most SE Players know, there was the change in mining behavior after the Planetary Update. Second, on servers... there is a bug at the moment, that can bring Servers to crash if someone mines! (Or use a Hyperdrive Engine). Oh, and mining from Hand may needs more Time, but it is moch more save on planets, then mining with mashines! If you use a hover miner, think of the weight of the Ore and Stones. You will need extra Thrusters in Front to hold the balance, and you need a sorter, that will spill out the stones and hold in the Ores, or your Vehicle, flying or not, will become easyly too heavy! And have a look on the Surounding behaviors while mining. (Sorry, english isn't my natural Toungle, so I have Problems sometimes to describe some Stuff. ;-) ) The Driller will break reaaaaly fast, and so all parts that are not saved with Armor! Oh, and don't forget a Cam and lights that show backwards! That will make it more easy for you to find your way out of the Hole you have digged at the End. ^^ (Never forget: In the Bowels of a Planets if is much darker then in Space. :D ) Oh, and if you need good landing gears, but have problems with the actual Landing gears breaking by landing, use small wheels! Put them on the Head, so they show down, and put them unter your construction. They are very more stable then Landing Gears and pretty stable AND they won't roll if they are "on the head". Yes, they need more Components, but if you have to make a emergency landing every Time you like to land and loose your landing Gears, it is the better solution. But remember: You have to put a Block AND a Wheel to reach the height of one Landing Gear. (if you like to put one on to lock it to the Ground). On Mining Vehicles this can be a Problem. So maybe you should find another spott for the Landing gear, so they won't stuck out from under the Vehicle. (Same Trick works on Big Ships with Atmospheric Thrusters too. ;-) ) AND a last thing: If you go off to mining: Empty your Characters Inventory at Home! The Game now puts the weight of all the Character has in its Inventory to the complete mass of the Vehicle, If you havn't the options for greater inventory space on, this CAN become a big Problem. ;-)
Well I had no idea about rightclicking with ship drills that's really helpful. I actually don't have much to contribute to your advice as it was all solid. Except... putting a small reactor on it would help as it would (very very slowly) refill the batteries. Although, I understand if uranium isn't that plentiful but with the addition of a mining ship... it's going to deserve the expensive stuff since it is getting to your ore and stoof easily.
Are there any plans for more in this series? Great explanation of everything new, which helped me get a good little base and a pretty decent mining ship if i do say so myself haha
+w4stedspace Awesome! have been ill for a few days so I have been spending... i'd like to say hours, but it's probably closer to days at this point. I have just made a platform for building upward as I am nowhere near ice, restarted a few times to try get a cold biome but just played the hand which means no jet pack... Well at least everything seems to be working.... except randomly falling through the planet... thin surface I think lol
I found uranium on my planet, not too deep, so I went after it with my hand drill. I disassembled the small reactor from the lander, built a connector, built a small ship that consists of a conveyor, a connector and three small small ship reactors. Pushed the small ship into the base connector, so now I have a 1.5MW base reactor to charge batteries at night, and can build many nuclear powered small ships to help me manage to get at the super-deep silver deposit I have found. Then I will be able to build the reactors needed for my escape to space.
Hello, thank you for these guide videos very useful, I hope you continue making guide videos like these. I have a issue following your guide, once the control remote is on I can't rotate the 3rd view when I am driving the boogie or the vessel however if the control remote is off I can rotate the view (mouse+alt) This must be about the control remote because the spawn inital ship works fine the rotation in 3rd view. I don't know why.
I have to admit, i havnt seen any mining concepts beyond "pillar drills", vertical atmospheric miners and strip mining (the last on that list being horribly time consuming) oh, and that bloody worm ... which as amusing as it was, dosnt have much practicality about it - i was hoping that mining would be a little more inventive than a natural gravity rehash of the "whack as many drills on a square head as you can afford" with a side of "make sure she can float" that space mining had been, though now at least some of those wheeled monstrosities people used to come up with to drill through asteroids might actually have some usefulness in a smaller scale, considering how real underground mining operations work, keens ore distribution kinda shoots that in the foot though - i dont think we have ore beyond a certain depth (feel free to correct me if i am infact wrong there), just only where the dark patches show up on the ground. I'd still totally like to see some shaft-miners that dont fly ...
listen to what he says about downward thrust, my first time mining on plannets i angled to far down and landed upside down with no way to get it back upright, ended up having to scrap the whole ship lol
@W4stesSpace, I made a miner that can go from planet to space with moded thrusters but i downloaded my mod with "Steam workshop downloader" and installed them manually for offline play. Its about 16Km from ground up, 4 drills, a crap ton of (startrack looking) modded thrusters. that reaches 20km when its fully extended. It masses up if you're going to fast up,down,left,right and back and forth with out locking the extended drills. Would you like to test it out sometime?
How did you select individual parts in the control panel, I know how to highlight large groups with shift, but to do what you did with the thrusters what do you press?
this a great cheap design. i love it, but just a heads up, if you go to get out of your mine and don't have much space in there, do not turn on your side to turn around. just remember that if dug strait down and you turn on your side you will fall. just a heads up, still a great design. and yes i know this an older vid
I noticed when building one of my large ships that the large conveyor tubes are a bit heavier than the normal conveyor blocks, I didn't really test this that much but I was wondering if it's a bug or not and if it's the same throughout the other types of conveyors.
First of all I like your show it's interesting and also nice to know such things. I have just one thing I want to mention and that is that you increase the volume you can carry and not directly the weight. I know it's somwhat non-essential to the point I just thougt i schuld metion it. Sorry.
The rover and the unnamed flyer would probably work more efficiently if operated in tandem. [..] As far as power is concerned, the power upgrade modules can be built with starter materials. Also, I never use the old recharge mode anymore as it just wastes power.
+Low Rads Well, recharge mode is very handy for connected vehicles to ensure they never go draining their batteries in an attempt to supply power to the base. I treat it like turning the reactors off on any other vehicle. It ensures that all systems are off, and that the vehicle will be ready to go when needed. Discharge I only ever touch when wanting to dismantle a battery tho. And the misleading old semi-auto mode should probably be removed entirely.
Hi, Ive been a follower for sometime of your Space Engineers series. I created a mining ship last night similiar to yours. Cept I put a cockpit in front right behind my drills. When I went out mining non of the ore actually went to the storage container. It all go clogged up in the drill storage and cockpit storage. Whats the secret?
Question that I need answered. How do you get the game to run this stably? I know the first thought is always that by that I mean frame-rate and that I just have the graphics settings too high, or my system is insufficient, but this isn't the case, with the exception of initial render lag, the game runs at a fine frame-rate up until it crashes, furthermore, my computer is definitely sufficient (GTX 970, 16Gb Ram, fx9590 CPU, solid state drives), and it crashes for lots of different things. The game just crashes for simple things, like mining, or when a ship breaks, or anything really, sometimes it just crashes when I load a world. Two more issues, even after the change log saying they fixed it, I still fall through the world, I don't think there is a way to fix that on my end , but still. When mining with a ship, no matter how careful I am with the drills, one will always break, what am I doing wrong?
How do you quickly switch between remote control after getting on the vehicle? I always have to goto the "G" menu and find "Remote Control" and click on the "Control" button since I can't get any vehicle shortcuts setup while on the chair without actually going into "Control" first.
So when I attach a chair to this craft, it doesn't let me pilot the ship or access the remote control. Have I missed something? Is this tutorial outdated due to a patch?
I followed the exact process. The only problem I have is with the conveyor. Everything is connected and turned green with battery power but nothing is transferring to my cargo? Any clues?
Hi i built exactly same ship like you but when i tried to drill, the ship exploded. I'm new in game so i don't know what I did wrong. Can you help me please?
+Austin Williams Same here, I traveled pretty far on my planet with an azimoth ore detector. No platinum. Figured it was like my gold deposit. I only found one deposit in 10,000 m radius around my landing zone
+Austin Williams Well your moon on the other side of the planet might still be closer than the martian moon ;) Funny thing i discovered on my world, if you have "cargo/random ship encounters" turned on, you will literally have ion-propelled NPC ships drop from the sky left and right ^^ if you're lucky, their reactor or guns get destroyed on the crash and you can safely go in and grind off their ion thrusters and disassemble them to get platinum (and all other materials) galore.
Good lord, is it just me, or is this thing impossible to fly? Bitchen ship though, and I managed to build it right, lol. Is there a way to invert the controls?
I feel some notes of my "Most common issue" with mining vehicles would help... Namely the issue that every time I try to mine with a vehicle my drills will spontaneously explode while drilling. Not sure why, but its either the drills tearing themselves appart on the rocks, some weight issue suddenly crashing the ship, or I keep screwing up with the throttle. ... I hope its not that last one, but I'm pretty sure its not.
+Zexion Sephiroth you might have too much forward thrust. On my first attempt of a somewhat bigger mining ship, i put 3 large rear thrusters on - combined with the gravity, my ship smashed into the ground forcefully when i even slighty tipped the W-key. think about making a "precision mode" group that turns off the majority or all of your rear thrusters, giving you just the tiniest bit of thrust when facing downward. Also, put loads of front thrusters on xD 3 large ship thrusters on a 50x inventory size server can carry ~400k ore; so on a 10x inventory size, don't drill more than 80k ore with this kind of setup or your ship will just land face first on the ground and never get up again ^^ It's a bit of try and error. i advise to get some rock and put it into your ship's cargo and do a test of how much it can carry before you go for an actual mining site.
+Selmokk I don't understand why people use downward thrusters on planets. If you don't have any, then when you press C to go down then your downward facing thrusters will just turn off and turn back on when you release the key, provided you have inertial dampeners on. It saves fuel, energy, space and makes atmoshperic ships look better.
439sparky1 For some, the issue is that its finiky to do it that way... If only because when you've come to a standstill in mid air, and have no downward thrusters, you still won't go downwards until you are technically moving already. Besides that, there's also the fact your ship isn't likely to always be 100% upright... In those cases, it can either slow your horizontal movement during Inertial dampening a little. Or straight up be the one hope you have of making sure it doesn't straight up crash when your nose is to the ground.
+Selmokk Well I'm not making drill ships anytime soon. I prefer to make an oil rig type of construction to get recources. Something similair to a quarry in minecraft tekkit. As for ships I have a single dropship design with no upwards facing thrusters.
I know this is old, but im referencing this video still. theres been patches etc. im just wondering if anyone knows why my mouse wont activate drills? i have to program a toolbar button to power it on and off.... is this new or am i doing something wrong.
10:26 "...and we need a place to sit." Wait, what? Why? EDIT: 14:28 What you're talking about is nonsensical since the inventory SIZE is 10x smaller too, therefore it will work just as will at 1x as it does at 10x. That's the whole reason for the weight-reduction-with-multiplication patch...
+mazack00 Regarding the seat, it allows the considerable advantage of having a third person view as opposed to relying on camera via remote control. It also means your miner has infinite range, rather than being confined by the 5km range of it's own antenna, or needing an additional support/relay vehicle immediately.
So I was working on a new base, a flying ship so I wouldn't have to keep going back and forth to the landed. Noticed a piece of the lander ramp was a bit banged up. The moment I wielded it the landing gear on the lander exploded and the piston I had linked to the miner crushed the back half of it into dust. So glad the game has creative for bs like that. Anyone got any idea what happened?
fixed it i had to rebuild the ship but now it works properly guess i just built it wrong im still fairly new to this game i only played it for a few days before planets were added and my pc blew up n its took till now get a new one having trouble maintaining battery charge atm ive built a small self aligning solar array but it takes forever to charge batteries and i havent found any uranium for reactors think ill have to search further out need to get to space asap i atleast know sorta what im doing in space, planets and natural grav are hard to get my head around atm i keep dropping my ships etc into the ground lol
i personally consider anything above 1x inventory size to be cheating unless you are recording/streaming. mainly because when you are engineering a ship, the ship shouldn't be able to hold a bigger cargo than the size of it's containers (this is easiest to see with ore, when you drop it on the ground) it does suck that the player inventory is so small, but anything higher than 1x inventory size negates any real engineering challenge.
I noticed the weird bug, when it goes 0m/s the larger athmosphere thrusters goes 100% (but not taking off) but it is burning fuel :S I hope theyf ix it, the last thursday update really has caused the game to be incredibly unstable, i know they did an update since but not sure if it's resolved problems, anybody know?
ArkantosNilsson think about it, where would I get enough uranium to actually make enough warheads? The only real source of explosions that early would be crashing you ship into the ground. I was just playing around ;-)
+Stewart Bates It doesn't appear like warheads need uranium anymore, I think the devs want us to use them for mining, which is awesome for me. I've been experimenting with them, and large warheads actually make massive holes in the ground, which clear away a lot of the stone in the way, it's very nice!
+w4stedspace well, setting up your base in the vicinity of a lake is recommended (you could have discussed good landing sites in your first video!). not only for your jetpack, but because you'll of course want to get to space in the near future
I really hate that building a flying ship is the best way to mine on earth. There is going to be plenty of that in space later and it would be nice if mining on earth would be different and better with wheels.
Sorry to say, this didn't work. The thrust from the single engine was insufficient to carry a full cargo load on x10 cargo capacity. Mining was great as long as I was pointing down, but once both cargo boxes were filled up, I was topping 190k+ kg. As soong as I back out of the hole I was mining in and leveled off, the main engine couldn't keep me up, and the entire thing crashed to the ground and was destroyed. I had to assemble a rudimentary cargo vessel from the remnants just so I could transport my stuff back to base. I'd recommend, in the future, that you test these designs "fully loaded" before foisting them off as viable constructs for new players.
+Husnok D Apoplogies, I wasn't very clear as to the purpose of the pair of cargo containers.. I touch briefly on it at abouut 7:10 but not clearly enough. The point behind 2 is for balance, having the weight placed either side of the main engine so the ship doesn't want to tip when you load it up. It does mean that you have a little more cargo capacity than you can fully use (can get to abouut 120k kg) unless you tilt the craft forwards a bit. The plan is for this craft to grow further down the line but in the interim I'll add an annotation to clear things up a bit - as you've seen it would only take about 4 more small thrusters pointing down to level things out and this ship was always intended as a starting point for further building.
+lpstylaa Try turning your settings down. I had horrid lag and crashes until I went from high textures to medium, then it ran like a dream. Also something with ore detectors and welders will crash the game right now too, and mining causes huge voxel data to be made by the game. Smaller holes, lower settings might fix it, no modded welders or ore detectors either.
one thing i hate about EVERY starter planet MP server. YOU START THE WHOLE THING WITH A LANDER! THE LANDER HAS EVERYTHING THERE IS NO POINT TO PLAYING IF YOU HAVE EVERYTHING!
While there's many ways to approach mining I feel this is the most reliable for new players and is best suited to be the very first mining craft you create.. We will of course go into more complex designs later in the series :)
Was also derping out a bit with this episode, kept forgetting parts!
+w4stedspace when we ask for longer vids you listend XD
are the group survival vids gonna be this long to :D
+maik vl Not 30mins no, but the plan is for longer than 6 mins this week :) As you say, people asked for longer vids.. I'm cool with that :)
+w4stedspace yay
+w4stedspace You might want to add rotor handle for solar panels, so they follow the sun (giving around 18,5 each at any moment after sunrise).
Also, did you try to create effective wheeled drill with robotic hand?
I spent like 6 hours fighting the bugs when terrain change it's structure due to drilling and destroys my entire craft, not to mention drill itself become overweighted and breaks the arm, so i have to manually transfer the ore out of it into storage.
+W4stedspace , a full cargo of stone would weigh the same in x1, x5, or x10, it's just in the x10 there's ten times as much stone (by volume) and in x5 there's five times as much stone (by volume). This was a balancing mechanic to make it so people playing at inventory modifiers weren't disadvantaged compared to the x1 people after the cargo update.
I'd put some "power efficiency" modules on the refinery, and move the assembler so you can put 4 on it as well, this would greatly reduce the power needed by both of them, reducing it to about a full solar panel for each the refinery and the assembler. This is helped because, besides the 8 motors required for 4 of them (so 16 in total for both refinery and assembler), this is entirely iron. Exact numbers: with 0 power efficiency modules they run at 560 kW, and with 4 installed they run at 112kW, at maximum efficiency a (large ship) solar panel will create 120kW.
yes but in 10x you are never gonne be filling up your cargo containers in any circumstance
Important note on batteries: if some batteries are set to discharge, and some to recharge, the discharging batteries attempt to recharge the recharging batteries, at 80% efficiency.
THIS IS A REALLY FAST WAY TO LOSE ALL YOUR POWER FOR NOTHING.
You are better off leaving all boxes unchecked (and leaving some backup batteries off) while refining and assembling.
+r3dp9 Yup, but as mentioned in this vid it sometimes switches battery states when you reload the game I think, either way they change sometimes without me doing anything! Wasn't an intended setup. Only time I have some batts charging and others diischarging is when I'm charging up the miiner batteries.. kinda have to then.
+w4stedspace Hmm, didn't know reloading the game could change the batteries. I'll have to keep that in mind. Sounds like you'll be explaining the batteries in detail in the next episode.
I look forward to testing your miner design, along with the right click trick. So far your tutorials have been extremely thorough and easy to follow, I really appreciate how you've chosen to do this series.
+w4stedspace
From the video, looks like you only welded up the second battery on the miner then went on to other things. Didn't seem to have switched it out of it's starting state.
Battery 2 welded at 23:07 then you immediately go on to your nifty coasting engine group. Re-watched video until your edit cut and didn't see you go to Battery 2.
i noticed that too but with the hydrogen and oxygen tank for thrusters and vents
Came to say big thank you for making these vids, when I started out Space Engineers your basic survival guide helped me alot as a stepping stone into the wider Space Engineers world. Having over 200+ hours of building fun of all sorts of crazy stuff. And it's all thanks to you my dude, cheers! I've watched and followed your vids to the letter and learnt how to build everything. I kinda miss those giant landers, they had a better tutorial level of "I can repurpose this into a flying base" or just turn it into a base wherever you land afterwards. The smaller new lander you get doesnt do that as much, other than a Mining Ship perhaps.
Please make more episodes. This series is awesome. Just got into the game a week ago and have been playing hours each day cuz it's addicting as hell. I've managed to make exact duplicates of your ships and I have upgraded them a little and used a few mods like the small ship blocks mod so I could put a driving seat on my rover so it would be easier to drive. Nice vids. Keep em up. Subbed!
That forward thruster "dampener" trick was simply amazing! Thanks so much pointing that out! Really helpful.
3 years later, just starting this game. loving the commentary and the insight man. keep it up hope all is well :)
I've been using your dampener thruster idea for more than a year now in my designs instead calling it drift. It makes any ship handle better. Glad to see someone else came down the same path.
same here! I use it the most on fighters, race craft, and planet craft. it is beyond useful.
I just started playing space engineers and even though the game has seen quite a few updates since then, I found this series very helpful ! thanks !
I like to say hi, and THANK YOU! I am fairly new to SE, but due to your explanations of things, I have learned a great deal.
Seeing as your doing Power next episode...
Most of the time folks are tearing the lander down completely, and in doing so are losing the batteries. I have found a solution for it, and a way of saving them.
I don't know how to make videos, so thought if I explain to you, you might be able to replicate.
I build a small atmo ship, basicly 2 small thrusters in all directions, except down. Down I put 2 large. 2 Gyros, and build the landing gear. Chop the top off the ship, and all but 1 connecting blocks, land the flyer on the battery, lock gear, chop block, fly up just a bit, add merge block, and add merge block to station, fly to base connect..rinse repeat.
@27:00 That bug was driving me bonkers! I thought it just wasn't possible to left/right click with ship drills at all. Thanks for pointing it out.! :)
how did you managed to make the right click work? it doesn't for me: (
+Фарух Мухамедов As w4sted mentioned, you have to reload the game. Then after that, assign your ship's "weapon" to be the drills, and then you can right click.
+crisis8v88 Thank you a lot. I broke not one ship before getting it right
@@crisis8v88 3 years later and youve answered what ive been searching for forever now thanks a bunch got this game less than a week ago and already at 100 hours lol
Well done. The quality of your videos, the quality of the content is fantastic. I love this game but I am forever frustrated playing it. Your videos help a lot. Thank you.
Love your videos man. Glad you got to this was waitng for ep5
You have the best Guide and very good idea's. Any special keys you push to make things easier helps too. But your guide and idea are the best by far.
Small tip for a more comfortable mining: Connect a small conveyer sorter+ejector to your conveyer system and let it drop all stone/ice you're picking off while mining.
You can mine longer and won't waste refinery space with stone in this way.
My mate recommended this game, figured i'd hop on here to check it out a bit, after watching your vids, not only am i buying the game, but i feel confident that i can at least get started. subbed, hope you keep these coming! :)
really love this series please continue with more its very informative
Great video, I spent half a day fighting with this problem on my world yesterday. Mine works but it takes a TON more resources to get off the group and work right.
This is probably one of the most viable mining ships (love the explanation about the forward thrusters).
If you didn't want to remove the backward thruster next to the cargo hold, you could have just connected the pipes to the connector above it.
This new player thanks you. Side note: If you turn off the front thrusters, don't forget to turn them back on if you decide you're going to fly towards mountains. Rest in pieces, Miner 01.
Very well done tutorial, even I could understand it.
I discovered that you can override your thrusters (up or down) and in combination with "damping" the reverse ones, you get a nice control with very little power usage in atmo.
Subbed ;)
Very informative thanks first. Looking forward to playing my survival scenario this weekend and builing a similar miner. There have been issues with my designs.
Very nice starter mining ship, everything it needs ... except perhaps one thing, which ain't that important, but for me is part of the realism. A merge block on the back end of the ship, just in case you run out of power in a tunnel , will ensure you can hook up your stranded miner to a recovery vehicle. Off course you would need materials to build such a vehicle, which is not in the budget when you just start out, but later ...
You can type in the thrust direction in the search box by the way, no need to select each one to see the name.
A few things. Thrusters do not care where they are on the ship. As long as they are not part of a separate grid (i.e. connected to a rotor or piston not directly on the ship) they always apply their thrust to the center of mass. So thrusters can be asymmetrical and not cause any rotation. And the 10x inventory setting your kinda right on, it scales the volume containers and you can hold but also inversely scales the weight. So a full medium cargo hold on 1x will weigh the same as 10x but hold 1/10th the volume. So if your ship supports a full load on 10x it will on 1x too, albeit its a smaller load but both loads weigh the same.
also inventory size does not only affect cargos, as WastedSpace said. it affects your personal inventory, and the inventory of every block in the game: refineries, cockipts, assemblers, drills, welders, grinders, etc
Are you still making episodes for this series? it has helped me Immensely. and they are a great fun to watch
Im loving this series! Very imformative, and lots of good hints and tips... but... come out with them faster!!! hahahaha
that dampening idea is great not actually seen any 1 use that yet.
Wow, re-created this build today, and it looks amazing compared to the 2015 models and textures! Looks like a proper piece of industrial equipment, despite having thrusters poking out everywhere, that is lol
Thank you for making this video! i couldn't figure out how to make a mining ship without it getting stuck in the ground. In fact, i didn't know that two batteries would be enough, so i put 6 small reactors on it and still had overloading problems. it takes a long time to refine all the uranium i need though.
clearly not enough!
I'm guessing KSH has changed some things that affect this design. I just built it, following the video, pausing at each step. when finished the thing could not even lift it's own mass when empty! I doubt it's inventory multiplier since i'm using the same x10 you are.
Tinfoil Chef yep with the current version there is insufficient thrust to even move on an earth normal gravity planet. *sigh*
Good job dude, continue
At the Moment, since the last Patch, you have to be careful with mining.
First as most SE Players know, there was the change in mining behavior after the Planetary Update.
Second, on servers... there is a bug at the moment, that can bring Servers to crash if someone mines!
(Or use a Hyperdrive Engine).
Oh, and mining from Hand may needs more Time, but it is moch more save on planets, then mining with mashines!
If you use a hover miner, think of the weight of the Ore and Stones.
You will need extra Thrusters in Front to hold the balance, and you need a sorter, that will spill out the stones and hold in the Ores, or your Vehicle, flying or not, will become easyly too heavy!
And have a look on the Surounding behaviors while mining. (Sorry, english isn't my natural Toungle, so I have Problems sometimes to describe some Stuff. ;-) )
The Driller will break reaaaaly fast, and so all parts that are not saved with Armor!
Oh, and don't forget a Cam and lights that show backwards!
That will make it more easy for you to find your way out of the Hole you have digged at the End. ^^
(Never forget: In the Bowels of a Planets if is much darker then in Space. :D )
Oh, and if you need good landing gears, but have problems with the actual Landing gears breaking by landing, use small wheels!
Put them on the Head, so they show down, and put them unter your construction.
They are very more stable then Landing Gears and pretty stable AND they won't roll if they are "on the head".
Yes, they need more Components, but if you have to make a emergency landing every Time you like to land and loose your landing Gears, it is the better solution.
But remember: You have to put a Block AND a Wheel to reach the height of one Landing Gear. (if you like to put one on to lock it to the Ground).
On Mining Vehicles this can be a Problem. So maybe you should find another spott for the Landing gear, so they won't stuck out from under the Vehicle.
(Same Trick works on Big Ships with Atmospheric Thrusters too. ;-) )
AND a last thing: If you go off to mining: Empty your Characters Inventory at Home!
The Game now puts the weight of all the Character has in its Inventory to the complete mass of the Vehicle,
If you havn't the options for greater inventory space on, this CAN become a big Problem. ;-)
Well I had no idea about rightclicking with ship drills that's really helpful. I actually don't have much to contribute to your advice as it was all solid. Except... putting a small reactor on it would help as it would (very very slowly) refill the batteries. Although, I understand if uranium isn't that plentiful but with the addition of a mining ship... it's going to deserve the expensive stuff since it is getting to your ore and stoof easily.
I love how the first thing I see is a car blasting across the landscape
You could add a solar panel above the front cargo container.
Are there any plans for more in this series? Great explanation of everything new, which helped me get a good little base and a pretty decent mining ship if i do say so myself haha
+Marc Brooks-Harley Yeah, recording more today actually :)
+w4stedspace Awesome! have been ill for a few days so I have been spending... i'd like to say hours, but it's probably closer to days at this point. I have just made a platform for building upward as I am nowhere near ice, restarted a few times to try get a cold biome but just played the hand which means no jet pack... Well at least everything seems to be working.... except randomly falling through the planet... thin surface I think lol
I found uranium on my planet, not too deep, so I went after it with my hand drill. I disassembled the small reactor from the lander, built a connector, built a small ship that consists of a conveyor, a connector and three small small ship reactors. Pushed the small ship into the base connector, so now I have a 1.5MW base reactor to charge batteries at night, and can build many nuclear powered small ships to help me manage to get at the super-deep silver deposit I have found. Then I will be able to build the reactors needed for my escape to space.
W4sted, you can search up "Backwards" at the top. Goof.
lol exactly, sometimes it's so painful to watch people scour their inventories and not using the search
;___; need that episode 6. this channel is great!
Hello, thank you for these guide videos very useful, I hope you continue making guide videos like these. I have a issue following your guide, once the control remote is on I can't rotate the 3rd view when I am driving the boogie or the vessel however if the control remote is off I can rotate the view (mouse+alt) This must be about the control remote because the spawn inital ship works fine the rotation in 3rd view. I don't know why.
Great video! Really instructive for new players like me :P. Subbed.
Great series, kind of sad there is no episode 6 about power I was looking forward to that now...
Got a bit distracted over Xmas but plan is to pick the series back up this week or next week.
I have to admit, i havnt seen any mining concepts beyond "pillar drills", vertical atmospheric miners and strip mining (the last on that list being horribly time consuming) oh, and that bloody worm ... which as amusing as it was, dosnt have much practicality about it - i was hoping that mining would be a little more inventive than a natural gravity rehash of the "whack as many drills on a square head as you can afford" with a side of "make sure she can float" that space mining had been, though now at least some of those wheeled monstrosities people used to come up with to drill through asteroids might actually have some usefulness in a smaller scale, considering how real underground mining operations work, keens ore distribution kinda shoots that in the foot though - i dont think we have ore beyond a certain depth (feel free to correct me if i am infact wrong there), just only where the dark patches show up on the ground.
I'd still totally like to see some shaft-miners that dont fly ...
You forgot to put the gyro that you temporarily removed back into the flight group :)
listen to what he says about downward thrust, my first time mining on plannets i angled to far down and landed upside down with no way to get it back upright, ended up having to scrap the whole ship lol
@W4stesSpace, I made a miner that can go from planet to space with moded thrusters but i downloaded my mod with "Steam workshop downloader" and installed them manually for offline play. Its about 16Km from ground up, 4 drills, a crap ton of (startrack looking) modded thrusters. that reaches 20km when its fully extended. It masses up if you're going to fast up,down,left,right and back and forth with out locking the extended drills. Would you like to test it out sometime?
love ur space engineers video man ur awesome
How did you select individual parts in the control panel, I know how to highlight large groups with shift, but to do what you did with the thrusters what do you press?
w4stedspace are you doing more survival guides?
320 likes, 0 dislikes. Just how it should be :)
no, it should be 320,000 likes, 0 dislikes
7 Bilion + *
Is an ore detector necessary? Don't the drills have detectors on them?
this a great cheap design. i love it, but just a heads up, if you go to get out of your mine and don't have much space in there, do not turn on your side to turn around. just remember that if dug strait down and you turn on your side you will fall. just a heads up, still a great design. and yes i know this an older vid
maybe you should publish your blueprints for these guides in the workshop ;)
great job anyways!
I noticed when building one of my large ships that the large conveyor tubes are a bit heavier than the normal conveyor blocks, I didn't really test this that much but I was wondering if it's a bug or not and if it's the same throughout the other types of conveyors.
First of all I like your show it's interesting and also nice to know such things.
I have just one thing I want to mention and that is that you increase the volume you can carry and not directly the weight. I know it's somwhat non-essential to the point I just thougt i schuld metion it. Sorry.
The rover and the unnamed flyer would probably work more efficiently if operated in tandem. [..] As far as power is concerned, the power upgrade modules can be built with starter materials. Also, I never use the old recharge mode anymore as it just wastes power.
+Low Rads
Well, recharge mode is very handy for connected vehicles to ensure they never go draining their batteries in an attempt to supply power to the base. I treat it like turning the reactors off on any other vehicle. It ensures that all systems are off, and that the vehicle will be ready to go when needed. Discharge I only ever touch when wanting to dismantle a battery tho. And the misleading old semi-auto mode should probably be removed entirely.
So - do you have the dogs and spiders on in your game?
Hi, Ive been a follower for sometime of your Space Engineers series. I created a mining ship last night similiar to yours. Cept I put a cockpit in front right behind my drills. When I went out mining non of the ore actually went to the storage container. It all go clogged up in the drill storage and cockpit storage. Whats the secret?
And do you ever have any issues of the game world not updating visually when you mine?
Did anyone saw this?
8:04
i leave the gap on the top for a reason
(puts a new thruster in that spot)
29:29
I finally realised
very helpful video, my ship always fall into the ground and i dont know why, seems my power is still too small
Question that I need answered. How do you get the game to run this stably? I know the first thought is always that by that I mean frame-rate and that I just have the graphics settings too high, or my system is insufficient, but this isn't the case, with the exception of initial render lag, the game runs at a fine frame-rate up until it crashes, furthermore, my computer is definitely sufficient (GTX 970, 16Gb Ram, fx9590 CPU, solid state drives), and it crashes for lots of different things. The game just crashes for simple things, like mining, or when a ship breaks, or anything really, sometimes it just crashes when I load a world. Two more issues, even after the change log saying they fixed it, I still fall through the world, I don't think there is a way to fix that on my end , but still. When mining with a ship, no matter how careful I am with the drills, one will always break, what am I doing wrong?
How do you quickly switch between remote control after getting on the vehicle? I always have to goto the "G" menu and find "Remote Control" and click on the "Control" button since I can't get any vehicle shortcuts setup while on the chair without actually going into "Control" first.
Use arc furnaces! they are much smaller and faster
funny thing is you can just tipe backward for backward thrusters and forwards for you guessed it forwards
What kind of computer are you using? I am hoping to get a msi laptop to play SE.
So when I attach a chair to this craft, it doesn't let me pilot the ship or access the remote control. Have I missed something? Is this tutorial outdated due to a patch?
Why do you not use your Hydrogen bottles?
when are you going to amke another video?
What do you do with all the stone from mining? Doesn't seem to be much use for it.
Projectiles!
I followed the exact process. The only problem I have is with the conveyor. Everything is connected and turned green with battery power but nothing is transferring to my cargo? Any clues?
Hi i built exactly same ship like you but when i tried to drill, the ship exploded. I'm new in game so i don't know what I did wrong. Can you help me please?
I have like 3 uranium deposits but cannot find platinum anywhere!
+Austin Williams Last time I checked you could only get platinum on asteroids and moons, is probably still the same.
+w4stedspace I guess that would make sense! Thank you ill stop looking haha
+w4stedspace my moon is on the opposite side of my planet, think I may be better off going to the martian moon
+Austin Williams Same here, I traveled pretty far on my planet with an azimoth ore detector. No platinum. Figured it was like my gold deposit. I only found one deposit in 10,000 m radius around my landing zone
+Austin Williams Well your moon on the other side of the planet might still be closer than the martian moon ;)
Funny thing i discovered on my world, if you have "cargo/random ship encounters" turned on, you will literally have ion-propelled NPC ships drop from the sky left and right ^^ if you're lucky, their reactor or guns get destroyed on the crash and you can safely go in and grind off their ion thrusters and disassemble them to get platinum (and all other materials) galore.
i have the same rover as you.. but my handbreak is not working rly good.. my rover dosent fully stop.. its rolling with 0.3-1.5kmh with handbreak on..
True..
I have the same problem. I've solved it by adding a landing foot and locking it in place
Good lord, is it just me, or is this thing impossible to fly? Bitchen ship though, and I managed to build it right, lol. Is there a way to invert the controls?
I feel some notes of my "Most common issue" with mining vehicles would help... Namely the issue that every time I try to mine with a vehicle my drills will spontaneously explode while drilling. Not sure why, but its either the drills tearing themselves appart on the rocks, some weight issue suddenly crashing the ship, or I keep screwing up with the throttle.
... I hope its not that last one, but I'm pretty sure its not.
+Zexion Sephiroth you might have too much forward thrust. On my first attempt of a somewhat bigger mining ship, i put 3 large rear thrusters on - combined with the gravity, my ship smashed into the ground forcefully when i even slighty tipped the W-key. think about making a "precision mode" group that turns off the majority or all of your rear thrusters, giving you just the tiniest bit of thrust when facing downward.
Also, put loads of front thrusters on xD 3 large ship thrusters on a 50x inventory size server can carry ~400k ore; so on a 10x inventory size, don't drill more than 80k ore with this kind of setup or your ship will just land face first on the ground and never get up again ^^
It's a bit of try and error. i advise to get some rock and put it into your ship's cargo and do a test of how much it can carry before you go for an actual mining site.
+Selmokk I don't understand why people use downward thrusters on planets. If you don't have any, then when you press C to go down then your downward facing thrusters will just turn off and turn back on when you release the key, provided you have inertial dampeners on. It saves fuel, energy, space and makes atmoshperic ships look better.
439sparky1 For some, the issue is that its finiky to do it that way... If only because when you've come to a standstill in mid air, and have no downward thrusters, you still won't go downwards until you are technically moving already.
Besides that, there's also the fact your ship isn't likely to always be 100% upright... In those cases, it can either slow your horizontal movement during Inertial dampening a little. Or straight up be the one hope you have of making sure it doesn't straight up crash when your nose is to the ground.
Or just the fact that, in a drill ship, your rear thrusters become your upwards thrusters once you point the nose down to drill into the ground ;)
+Selmokk Well I'm not making drill ships anytime soon. I prefer to make an oil rig type of construction to get recources. Something similair to a quarry in minecraft tekkit. As for ships I have a single dropship design with no upwards facing thrusters.
why not building blast msurface? its much more efficjent
how do you get the small landing gear on the block?? Its making me crazy! I only get the big one. 0.o
I am a idiot...
I figured it out
How do you do you like rotate the camera around the ship when you are in remote control, my cam is locked
Press V for third person view, then hold down the ALT key and move your mouse to rotate
+Kaktus doesnt work, when in remote control it only highlights the beacon names and such
I know this is old, but im referencing this video still. theres been patches etc. im just wondering if anyone knows why my mouse wont activate drills? i have to program a toolbar button to power it on and off.... is this new or am i doing something wrong.
Damn you! Every time I see a SE vid out on a thrus my first thought is PATCH! Then I'm sad.
+Aluphoss lol, sorry! Was supposed to be out yesterday but had some issues :)
It should work just fine in 1x inv size because allthough it weighs 10x what you have you can only hold 1/10th what you have here
10:26 "...and we need a place to sit." Wait, what? Why? EDIT: 14:28 What you're talking about is nonsensical since the inventory SIZE is 10x smaller too, therefore it will work just as will at 1x as it does at 10x. That's the whole reason for the weight-reduction-with-multiplication patch...
+mazack00
Regarding the seat, it allows the considerable advantage of having a third person view as opposed to relying on camera via remote control. It also means your miner has infinite range, rather than being confined by the 5km range of it's own antenna, or needing an additional support/relay vehicle immediately.
"Dissembling" and "Disassembling" are two different words, btw
So I was working on a new base, a flying ship so I wouldn't have to keep going back and forth to the landed. Noticed a piece of the lander ramp was a bit banged up. The moment I wielded it the landing gear on the lander exploded and the piston I had linked to the miner crushed the back half of it into dust. So glad the game has creative for bs like that. Anyone got any idea what happened?
Had this happen to me, finally figured out it was meteor strikes lol
what is the outro music
Why arent there any cyberdogs? I get them all the time
Cyberdogs were introduced about half way through this guide, although I generally turn them off when making the map :)
Yeah I found out that I could turn off Hazards and the cyberdogs :-P Very nice guide! and Commander... be nice to Morph. HAHA
my controls are backwards ie forward is space bar and q n e turn the ship not roll it what have i done wrong ?
fixed it i had to rebuild the ship but now it works properly guess i just built it wrong im still fairly new to this game i only played it for a few days before planets were added and my pc blew up n its took till now get a new one having trouble maintaining battery charge atm ive built a small self aligning solar array but it takes forever to charge batteries and i havent found any uranium for reactors think ill have to search further out need to get to space asap i atleast know sorta what im doing in space, planets and natural grav are hard to get my head around atm i keep dropping my ships etc into the ground lol
You should check out sage's space monolith in the volcano in mars.... easter egg my devs
hallo are you a player ??? or on of the guys there make the game ????? it luck so easy ???
i personally consider anything above 1x inventory size to be cheating unless you are recording/streaming.
mainly because when you are engineering a ship, the ship shouldn't be able to hold a bigger cargo than the size of it's containers (this is easiest to see with ore, when you drop it on the ground)
it does suck that the player inventory is so small, but anything higher than 1x inventory size negates any real engineering challenge.
Very helpful but this ship cannot handle the weight of two cargo-containers of ore.
I noticed the weird bug, when it goes 0m/s the larger athmosphere thrusters goes 100% (but not taking off) but it is burning fuel :S I hope theyf ix it, the last thursday update really has caused the game to be incredibly unstable, i know they did an update since but not sure if it's resolved problems, anybody know?
I'll stick to explosive mining - It's way more fun :P
does it actually work? What's your metod? Do you use warheads?
ArkantosNilsson think about it, where would I get enough uranium to actually make enough warheads? The only real source of explosions that early would be crashing you ship into the ground. I was just playing around ;-)
+Stewart Bates
Oh :(
I was expexting some revolutionary mining method to share with the community :(
ArkantosNilsson lol, sorry to get your hopes up :-(
+Stewart Bates It doesn't appear like warheads need uranium anymore, I think the devs want us to use them for mining, which is awesome for me. I've been experimenting with them, and large warheads actually make massive holes in the ground, which clear away a lot of the stone in the way, it's very nice!
Why is it you're not using your jetpack? It's not like you're short on ice.
+Daniel Gaffney I'm not, but people watching could be.. I just happen to be in the luxurious position of having ice everywhere :)
+w4stedspace well, setting up your base in the vicinity of a lake is recommended (you could have discussed good landing sites in your first video!). not only for your jetpack, but because you'll of course want to get to space in the near future
I really hate that building a flying ship is the best way to mine on earth. There is going to be plenty of that in space later and it would be nice if mining on earth would be different and better with wheels.
Sorry to say, this didn't work. The thrust from the single engine was insufficient to carry a full cargo load on x10 cargo capacity. Mining was great as long as I was pointing down, but once both cargo boxes were filled up, I was topping 190k+ kg. As soong as I back out of the hole I was mining in and leveled off, the main engine couldn't keep me up, and the entire thing crashed to the ground and was destroyed. I had to assemble a rudimentary cargo vessel from the remnants just so I could transport my stuff back to base.
I'd recommend, in the future, that you test these designs "fully loaded" before foisting them off as viable constructs for new players.
+Husnok D Apoplogies, I wasn't very clear as to the purpose of the pair of cargo containers.. I touch briefly on it at abouut 7:10 but not clearly enough.
The point behind 2 is for balance, having the weight placed either side of the main engine so the ship doesn't want to tip when you load it up. It does mean that you have a little more cargo capacity than you can fully use (can get to abouut 120k kg) unless you tilt the craft forwards a bit. The plan is for this craft to grow further down the line but in the interim I'll add an annotation to clear things up a bit - as you've seen it would only take about 4 more small thrusters pointing down to level things out and this ship was always intended as a starting point for further building.
My game keeps on crashing while mining on planets :/
+lpstylaa Try turning your settings down. I had horrid lag and crashes until I went from high textures to medium, then it ran like a dream. Also something with ore detectors and welders will crash the game right now too, and mining causes huge voxel data to be made by the game. Smaller holes, lower settings might fix it, no modded welders or ore detectors either.
hm.. ok thank you :)
one thing i hate about EVERY starter planet MP server.
YOU START THE WHOLE THING WITH A LANDER!
THE LANDER HAS EVERYTHING
THERE IS NO POINT TO PLAYING IF YOU HAVE EVERYTHING!