To everyone mentioning that the link goes to the "never gonna give you up" video, he did that on purpose. He states quite a few times in the video that hes NOT gna tell us which ones they are, and if YOU want to but them for yourselves then YOU must do the research.. like he said, hes NOT gna give out the link cuz he doesnt condone the way these have been copied and he wouldnt recommend anyone else to use these.. he only did it cuz this is a "budget build" series and he needed a little more stopping power for all the added GO power.. hes not tracking this car, hes only using it to have a little fun on the streets here n there
Very well said. The best part is, because thats a bitly link, i can currently see we have managed to rick roll over 500 people already haha :P sorry everyone.
@@DSD1.0 of course i know that, but he is being hypocritical saying " i hate such and such" but does such and such himself. It's an imaginary high horse he puts himself on. if that's understandable
I am Chinese, I can recommand you look into some other brands that are excellents as well. Inspeed, Motve, Tei brakes. these three are the big dog manufactures for brakes, they have some pretty damn good products
10 months on, how are you still finding these brakes? Are they something you would buy again? You guys really didn’t want to link us directly to the brand, but having these for as long as you have and I’m guessing you’re enjoying them, would you consider sharing the link to them?
I had no idea brake kits like this existed... However, I’m truly interested in seeing how these fare in real life circumstances and “track braking” situations. Hoping to see a future video regarding these !!
If your Brake discs are warped and you can feel that while braking, then your front control arm bushings are worn out, and you HAVE to replace them, if you dont, and you put these brakes on they will have the same problem im a couple off miles! trust me! working at a BMW dealer , had so many customers with the same problem!
I believe he’s already planning on putting some M3 control arms on. However, it’s still possible to feel warped brake rotors with fresh control arms no? Just not as obvious
@@SamAbraham if he replaces the brakes and the bushes the problem will be fix, by only replacing the bushes the discs will still be wrappen so you have to replace them
Borrow an infrared temp sensor so you can fully monitor the temps or temp gauge stickers instead of the infrared gun. Maybe measure pedal travel too, you shouldn't need to push it much with this humongous kit! Great info as always! Now I know how to get a vremvo kit for the lawn mower.
The F80 M sport caliper upgrade is the best option for the 335i in my opinion great stopping power and can be sourced alot cheaper then aftermarket BBK also can go up to 380mm rotors with custom made brackets.
As a reference to the fact they’re very much Chinese brakes, I recommend rebranding the calipers to say, “Chinesium”... opportunity to pick a clever font to honestly imitate Brembo.
I wonder if the genuine Brembos are the same Chinese kit lol! Same as VRSF etc. Even if they don't work well still nice to put them in your office as decor. They look sick!
I honestly do not think they are the same as the genuine. And i dont "think" the genuine ones are made in china. Some brembos are made in china, but i dont think the GT6 GT4 kits are. And you are 100% correct, worst case scenario we have some wicked art pieces....
@@ZeroTo60Tube I am not sure there is a "stable" supply chain at brembo.. as I have been telling people, parts are parts and companies will find efficiencies where ever possible. www.brembo.com/en/company/suppliers Over the last decade I find most parts are sourced from a handful of actual manufacturers, mostly in China. Even name brand kits seem to include lots of the same pieces clearly sourced from the same factories. (This includes some OEM parts). What it results in for us end users is better cheap stuff and less reliable expensive stuff. What you have is very likely the real deal from a factory running parallel manufacturing as a legit supplier. Now and days some of these name brand companies claim to have "domestic" factories which in reality are nothing more than assembly centers.. sometimes just labeling centers. Basically factories have become contract players and companies generally do not maintain in house manufacturing capacity. But it does expose just how much of a mark up companies like Brembo charge.
@@ZeroTo60Tube genuine brembo are make in china AT the same Factory as dickass do your recherche you'll find out you.have the Real thing on you BMW now
I think you need the smallest rotors as possible but good but good thickness, that can do the job so for that you need brake cooling ducts. Since the car is powerful and heavy you can’t go too low. With good cooling some 356 x 32 front and rear should be ok or maybe 380x34 front. For handling you need to check the bias so you calculate piston area and mean rotor diameter. Normally a non m car has 70-% front and an M I saw a guy that said it had 65% but a gt3 50-50 weight distribution can go as low as 60-58% even with slick tires and race brakes (of course the have a bias selector so not relying that much on what brakes they have they can adjust to whatever ratio)
I went with Geckos. I am actually pretty happy with them. I wanted to make sure they were ok over a few weeks before adding them to the main parts list. I have done a few vids on them. Here's part 1 th-cam.com/video/zPk3kJWlDkk/w-d-xo.html
Only just discovered your channel and this video now. Very interesting and kinda scary that this is happening on such a safety component. It would have been cool if brembo sent a tech to go through this with you and identify areas where they aren't the same. Any idea if they are even aware/care about these chinese knockoffs? Whats the story with them now, a couple of years later?
Ended up chatting with Dickase quite a lot since 2020, we have the newer version in our other car. Video explains it well th-cam.com/video/OUTZOM9Q02s/w-d-xo.html First set going strong once the fitment issues were sorted.
@@ZeroTo60Tube Alright, thanks for the update, good to know. I still don't think I could go ahead myself and do it! Brembo don't care there are Chinese brakes out there with their logo on them? Or could they well be aware?
@@AM4N18 I was really unsure of what the go was when i ordered these. A lot of people were like "brembo have factories in china and these are just seconds". I did a lot of research and brembos big issue with fakes is companies pairing incorrect caliper and rotor sizes, meaning bias's are incorrect. So if FCP sell a brembo caliper with thier disc, Brembo seem to have issues with that. But brembro never address the issue with the china copies. Now brembo do have pads being made in china. But i can't find anything showing this level of caliper is baing made anywhere but italy. Getting to know Dickase over the years. These are nothing to do with Brembo. But as a china manufacturer, you can invest years in to developing a products and make it cheap and no one will buy it. Or you can copy a western product, tell the customer its fake and sell 1000s. Which is what they have done. They are in business and in china copying a western product is no problem. Something i hope this video series highlights is how many fakes are out there. I have seen so many sets being sold as genuine, which are very unlikely to be real brembo. Are these as good as genuine. I think so. However they must not be sold as genuine, its a different product. The way i see it, genuine you buy through a local reputable company who will install test and make sure you pair the correct brakes for your application. Thats where the price difference goes. You are paying for support and someones time and knowledge and that is worth more than a set of brakes.
Thanks for checking out the vids and watching a long. Sorry about the link, but it's pretty easy to find them. Just type those 2 words in to google... i dare you :P
@@ZeroTo60Tube i got ahold of them and chatting with them also. found they had blue calipers with just a M logo.. lol that wouldnt have been that bad vs these brembos?
Serial numbers? I wouldn't be surprised if it is same factory as Brembo just sold through the back door. I think the msport bumpers have bigger airducts directed to the brakes so maybe looking into upgrading that for your stock bumper. Might help. Not sure
If you have brembos already can you trust does rotors? Since rotors in USA run you about 1,600 just rotors no calipers. And I seen rotors on AliExpress for about $600 the set.
I dont want to say these are as good as the real deal. But if you are not doing heavy track work i "think" they will be fine. If you are doing like 20 minute plus track sessions, brakes are really working hard and that might need some more thought.
FYI guys if you go for a M3 master cylinder, you need to get a RHD master, they're pretty tricky to source as lots of non ///M owners use them for F80 M3 four piston retrofits
Honestly, these could be true Brembo's. Lots of chinese factory workers will take the items that are still fully functional, but didn't pass the company's QC and just resell them elsewhere at a discount without the parent company's knowledge.
Do some temperature measurements after a couple of brake tests and compare them! Also you could do the same with the fluid. Great videos guys! I’m following you from the beginning and my 335 i is as well hahah
I have been following the whole build with feverish anticipation! I too have been rebuilding my 2009 335i but not to the extent of bigger turbos -- yet. I have done fabrication before to fit larger brake kits to cars so I am completely interested in these for my car. I do not track my car so I would love to find out where to get these. My little one day search has not yielded the right setup for Dickass brake set up on a 2009 BMW 335i. Maybe the branding has changed a little to DicCase with the C looking like a missing part of the K. Please, please, please tell us how to get them.
There are quite a few companies selling these brakes on ali under lots of different names. The issue is making sure whoever puts the kit together is supplying all the right parts, correct callipers. Even things like pison sizes need to be checked to make sure you get the right kit. They are cheap but you have to put the work in with the ali express sellers.
Also how funny. Brembo Brake rotors are no longer manufactured in the United States or Canada for aftermarket consumption. The “domestic” brands you may be familiar with (Raybestos,Wagner, Bendix, Centric, Motorcraft, Delco) are all manufactured in China/Taiwan.
Thanks so much dude. We are gonna put something together for the OGs who have supported us early by doing things like buying merch. Will be a bit like a private facebook or whatsapp group so you can see behind the scenes stuff and stay in contact with us down track.
most performance brakes have a heat sensitive paint that will tell you how hot the rotor get maybe you could try to get some of this paint to allow you to tell how hot the rotor gets while in use
I fitted a set of genuine brembos to a commodore recently and they had "made in italy" cast into the back of em.... but far out there some big af brakes gonna suck your eye balls out 🤣🤘
I liked the bit: "do you want a drink?" "red bull". I understand the comparison to the brakes. Obviously DickAss on the calipers! My favorite brake caliper color is orange. Beautiful set. Feel bad for Brembo too. Very curious about the installation. I did Google it, hahaha. Like the humor in this vid. O shit and I clicked the url and got rickrolled.
haha sorry about the rolling, i couldnt resist, if it makes you feel any better 500 other people have also been rolled this morning :P Also we are gonna do something for the OGs that jumped on and supported us early with the merch, so keep an eye out if you are interested. It will be something like a private group where you can see some behind the scenes stuff before it makes it to youtube and also stay in contact with us both as things evolve.
@@ZeroTo60Tube dickass never list the sizes, nor do brembo in a easy to find place. It is useful to work out brake bias and brake force when combined with master cylinder size.
Good video guys. I used to have access to brake pedal force transducer etc etc, but changed jobs :( It would have been good to help out. Sorry guys. I have no knowledge about the park brake setup on BWMs or these Bremos, but just wanted to make sure you'll still have a rear handbrake preferabley before you take the old stuff off and start installing the new stuff and have to re-do everything again. I know some of the willwood kits I've looked at for other cars don't have a handbrake function at all. Keep up the good work guys.
That would have been awesome to check. I am fairly confident my pedal feel will be different. It will take less for to get the same stopping power, but the pedal movement will be further (i hope that makes sense). In regards to the handbrake, yes this kit is supplied with a rear rotor hat that has the provisioning for the handbrake. The kit appears to be spot on so far.
Just got my Chinese turbos delivered! Hoping there isn't too much difference for an install on a Z4 35i! Great work gyuys. Keep the Vid's coming #AUSN54
Hi. I buy same turbos last year. They smoke when I drive below 2000 rpm for several minutes. When I stop, a little smoke passes me and then there is no smoke. I repaired them twice and the problem persists. Consult several mechanics and they tell me that there is nothing to do, that all turbos do that except the Pure. Do you have this problem? Is your exhaust system totally free? Thank you
No, well not yet. But normally smoke when you come to a stop is cause by oil in the pcv system. It builds up in the intake on the rear turbo so when you brake it rushing forward in to the turbo. Have you done the pcv upgrade or a catch can yet?
I reckon do the brake comparison from a higher speed as I didn't notice a diffenrce in distance from 100 with mine as it all comes down to grip. Maybe try getting both hot first as well to see how they each perform when cold and warm
Zero To 60 if any ones gonna figure it out it’ll be you guys. And I hope you can maybe figure a way out to tell if they are real or really fake with out testing them. I’d hate to see someone get ripped off on line or a market place as you guys spoke about... 😳
Do those brake lines have a 'DOT approval' label on them even? The kit is amazing, it will be interesting to see how the pads and rotors fare (or don't).
Thanks for the awesome video on those parts Since you go for aftermarket BBK in Eu a lot of people go for the OEM M-Performance 4-piston/2-pistron upgrade from BMW F20/F30 you can get the 370mm 4-piston front / 345mm 2-piston rear OEM from BMW for around 3k (excluding brake lines and modification on the rear caliper) where as the Brembo kit goes for 3 to 4k front alone how is the situation in Australia regarding those parts - or do they not get used at all and most go for a brembo/stoptech/willwood bbk instead ?
No to be honest very similar situation on in regards to people using the F20/F30 ones. The Brembos are also quite popular. You only really see race cars with the willwoods and Stoptech is pretty rare here.
They are from teespring. We got our second batch yesterday. We wanted to make sure they were ok before telling people about them. Since teespring is one of the biggest shirt manufacturers in the world they should be fine, but we just wanted to check. The premium shirts are nicer, but not being a fashion nut, i am happy with the cheaper teespring shirts. We do need to sort something out for Aussies, as shipping on teespring is a bit of a killer down to Australia. teespring.com/stores/zero-to-60
I think real test for these would be to measure how much they flex. Have dial indicator mounted somewhere, have the engine running / brake booster working and measure the flex from the caliper surface. Even the real Brembos will show movement on the indicator dial. If you have friends who own Evo, STI, GTR or even a Porsche, you could compare the results.
Maybe this is another situation where in China they still have all the tooling and drawings left over from when they did some manufacturing for Brembo etc. So they would be identical, other then possibly the quality of materials. Brembaux?
Hi there to compare the brakes use a work shop that has a road worthy brake tester that measure applied force to pedal and metres to stop the vehicle from any speed they should do it for little cost or even free if you give the shop a plug on you tube
well only Supplier I can find are Guangzhou Wantian Industrial off Alibaba, I wish they would really just say where they came from. Its interesting to research this
You are 100% right ,people dont do research and keep beleive wath people says impossible that IS a copy,copy look like they are not the exact product like these they are genuine brembo but where not sale by brembo somebody pick theme up in the production Line before 😁
@@dbnpoldermans4120 almost every company makes everything in China for bigger profit, so they just make more of them and sell them on a side. Common practice in China
I do not think these are made in the brembo factory. I also dont think the GT6 and GT4 calipers are made in china. Brembo may have factories in china making certain components, but it wont be the whole calipers.
@@ZeroTo60Tube Yeh the brembo calipers I'd bought for my e92 M3 brake setup had cast made in italy on them, would be interesting to weigh to compare chinese vs real deal
Ah that's a ripper.. or should I say 'RIPPOFF'. DickAss corp. could've branded em' as KickAss big brake kit lol. The callipers in bright orange or lime green would look cooler IMO. Hope the brake fade is better than the standard set-up.
The powder coating, if they actually are powder coated, is the dead giveaway that they're knockoffs. Genuine Brembos have silky smooth finishes with no orange peel or imperfections in the finish coating, they almost look dipped. The coating imperfections stand out on these Chinese knockoffs.
The thing I would be worried though, is are these brakes going to fail on me. Don't want to be gambling with my life just to look cool. As an engineer who produces some of our materials in China but most of it here in Europe, I can definitely say that China has faulty quality control for sure, if any. Though not all is bad for sure. It's just always a wonder to see how the materials will last.
Temp paint on the rotors is a good method. apracing.com/race-car/brake-pads/measuring-brake-temperature Then get some temp stickers on the calipers as well.
To everyone mentioning that the link goes to the "never gonna give you up" video, he did that on purpose. He states quite a few times in the video that hes NOT gna tell us which ones they are, and if YOU want to but them for yourselves then YOU must do the research.. like he said, hes NOT gna give out the link cuz he doesnt condone the way these have been copied and he wouldnt recommend anyone else to use these.. he only did it cuz this is a "budget build" series and he needed a little more stopping power for all the added GO power.. hes not tracking this car, hes only using it to have a little fun on the streets here n there
Very well said. The best part is, because thats a bitly link, i can currently see we have managed to rick roll over 500 people already haha :P sorry everyone.
@@ZeroTo60Tube 🤣🤣🤣
so its okay for him to do a budget build unethically but no one else can.... nice
@@hamzamushab ur misunderstanding the context of the situation.. YOU can do whatever the hell u want lol no ones gna stop u..
@@DSD1.0 of course i know that, but he is being hypocritical saying " i hate such and such" but does such and such himself. It's an imaginary high horse he puts himself on. if that's understandable
Plot twist: they are real Brembo brakes but with out the outrageous mark up.
hahahaha... exactly. The markup for brembos is just BS period.
Could be original refurbished. Or very good fake. Buy at your risk
I am Chinese, I can recommand you look into some other brands that are excellents as well. Inspeed, Motve, Tei brakes. these three are the big dog manufactures for brakes, they have some pretty damn good products
- "Annoys me how people copy well established brands"
* sips redbulls copy *
* reveals copied bremboo kit*
Did anyone notice the entire top shelf of the fridge was full of copy drinks...?
@@ZeroTo60Tube Lovin the aldi knock offs!
@@roger9546 ohh thank god, somebody noticed. We spent $14.85 on props for the video and i was worried it was all wasted.....
@@ZeroTo60Tube Not sure how anyone wouldn't get the joke!?
@@bmwthreethreefive5798 because they are genuinely thick
Just leave the brembo style font but change the word to DUMBO. So when people ask about your brembos you can just say "nah those are dumbos"
"Focused on power, didn't think about suspension, didn't think about brakes" Well that sounds familiar 🤔😂.
Yeah, we've all been there.. haha
Great video interested to see the performance of these would be hilarious if you could get just the emojis 🍆🍑 on as the decal instead of dickass 😁
Maybe it's from the same manufacturer who makes it for Brembo. Kind of similar to the Snap on jacks vs Harbor Freight ones?
10 months on, how are you still finding these brakes? Are they something you would buy again? You guys really didn’t want to link us directly to the brand, but having these for as long as you have and I’m guessing you’re enjoying them, would you consider sharing the link to them?
I had no idea brake kits like this existed... However, I’m truly interested in seeing how these fare in real life circumstances and “track braking” situations. Hoping to see a future video regarding these !!
Curious what the weight difference is between knock offs vs real deal kit
If your Brake discs are warped and you can feel that while braking, then your front control arm bushings are worn out, and you HAVE to replace them, if you dont, and you put these brakes on they will have the same problem im a couple off miles! trust me! working at a BMW dealer , had so many customers with the same problem!
I believe he’s already planning on putting some M3 control arms on. However, it’s still possible to feel warped brake rotors with fresh control arms no? Just not as obvious
OMG I have this issue but I thought that replacing the brakes would be enough! Now I understand why they are warped with just 10k km...
@@SamAbraham if he replaces the brakes and the bushes the problem will be fix, by only replacing the bushes the discs will still be wrappen so you have to replace them
@@metaridley77 yes!! , i would recommend replacing both your discs and the bushes and your problem will be gone!
hessel_1 Oh yes I understood that part. I’m saying that with perfectly fine control arms you can still have warped brake rotors
Borrow an infrared temp sensor so you can fully monitor the temps or temp gauge stickers instead of the infrared gun. Maybe measure pedal travel too, you shouldn't need to push it much with this humongous kit! Great info as always! Now I know how to get a vremvo kit for the lawn mower.
The F80 M sport caliper upgrade is the best option for the 335i in my opinion great stopping power and can be sourced alot cheaper then aftermarket BBK also can go up to 380mm rotors with custom made brackets.
You can test brake fade by doing multiple stops back to back.
a comparison in stopping distance between each set of brakes would be cool to compare. Keep up the good content guys you have my support!
Thanks man!!! We really love how much the community in our comment section has grown. You guys are effing awesome.
As a reference to the fact they’re very much Chinese brakes, I recommend rebranding the calipers to say, “Chinesium”... opportunity to pick a clever font to honestly imitate Brembo.
Hows the performance?
I wonder if the genuine Brembos are the same Chinese kit lol! Same as VRSF etc.
Even if they don't work well still nice to put them in your office as decor. They look sick!
I honestly do not think they are the same as the genuine. And i dont "think" the genuine ones are made in china. Some brembos are made in china, but i dont think the GT6 GT4 kits are. And you are 100% correct, worst case scenario we have some wicked art pieces....
@@ZeroTo60Tube I am not sure there is a "stable" supply chain at brembo.. as I have been telling people, parts are parts and companies will find efficiencies where ever possible.
www.brembo.com/en/company/suppliers
Over the last decade I find most parts are sourced from a handful of actual manufacturers, mostly in China. Even name brand kits seem to include lots of the same pieces clearly sourced from the same factories. (This includes some OEM parts). What it results in for us end users is better cheap stuff and less reliable expensive stuff. What you have is very likely the real deal from a factory running parallel manufacturing as a legit supplier. Now and days some of these name brand companies claim to have "domestic" factories which in reality are nothing more than assembly centers.. sometimes just labeling centers. Basically factories have become contract players and companies generally do not maintain in house manufacturing capacity. But it does expose just how much of a mark up companies like Brembo charge.
@@ZeroTo60Tube PS: re label the front's dick and the rears ass...
@@ZeroTo60Tube genuine brembo are make in china AT the same Factory as dickass do your recherche you'll find out you.have the Real thing on you BMW now
I think you need the smallest rotors as possible but good but good thickness, that can do the job so for that you need brake cooling ducts. Since the car is powerful and heavy you can’t go too low. With good cooling some 356 x 32 front and rear should be ok or maybe 380x34 front. For handling you need to check the bias so you calculate piston area and mean rotor diameter.
Normally a non m car has 70-% front and an M I saw a guy that said it had 65% but a gt3 50-50 weight distribution can go as low as 60-58% even with slick tires and race brakes (of course the have a bias selector so not relying that much on what brakes they have they can adjust to whatever ratio)
What Coilovers did you end up getting? Can you please add to the parts list?
I went with Geckos. I am actually pretty happy with them. I wanted to make sure they were ok over a few weeks before adding them to the main parts list. I have done a few vids on them. Here's part 1 th-cam.com/video/zPk3kJWlDkk/w-d-xo.html
Did you get stung for Import Duty GST on top of the $2K you paid for the brakes?
Make a sticker for the calliper that says BREMNO
Genuine or replicas are often made in the same factory. Good purchase mate👍👏
I'd be curious if actual Brembo pads fit in the calipers. Could give you a few options to upgrade in the future if they rest of the kit holds up.
I haven't checked myself, but i have read from others that the genuine pads do fit.
Would U tell me where u get this brake kit...? Link plz 🤩
What about prodigyworks?
Dam I just got rick rolled!!
You're welcome sir... haha. Apologies.
Zero To 60 I really wanted some dick ass
Perfect finish? Then what’s the enormous gouge on the outer edge of that rotor at 10:21?
That is an anti corrosion coating. It looks like dried oil. But i'm sure its not actual oil. It wipes off anyway.
Only just discovered your channel and this video now. Very interesting and kinda scary that this is happening on such a safety component.
It would have been cool if brembo sent a tech to go through this with you and identify areas where they aren't the same. Any idea if they are even aware/care about these chinese knockoffs?
Whats the story with them now, a couple of years later?
Ended up chatting with Dickase quite a lot since 2020, we have the newer version in our other car. Video explains it well th-cam.com/video/OUTZOM9Q02s/w-d-xo.html First set going strong once the fitment issues were sorted.
@@ZeroTo60Tube Alright, thanks for the update, good to know. I still don't think I could go ahead myself and do it!
Brembo don't care there are Chinese brakes out there with their logo on them? Or could they well be aware?
@@AM4N18 I was really unsure of what the go was when i ordered these. A lot of people were like "brembo have factories in china and these are just seconds". I did a lot of research and brembos big issue with fakes is companies pairing incorrect caliper and rotor sizes, meaning bias's are incorrect. So if FCP sell a brembo caliper with thier disc, Brembo seem to have issues with that. But brembro never address the issue with the china copies. Now brembo do have pads being made in china. But i can't find anything showing this level of caliper is baing made anywhere but italy. Getting to know Dickase over the years. These are nothing to do with Brembo. But as a china manufacturer, you can invest years in to developing a products and make it cheap and no one will buy it. Or you can copy a western product, tell the customer its fake and sell 1000s. Which is what they have done. They are in business and in china copying a western product is no problem. Something i hope this video series highlights is how many fakes are out there. I have seen so many sets being sold as genuine, which are very unlikely to be real brembo. Are these as good as genuine. I think so. However they must not be sold as genuine, its a different product. The way i see it, genuine you buy through a local reputable company who will install test and make sure you pair the correct brakes for your application. Thats where the price difference goes. You are paying for support and someones time and knowledge and that is worth more than a set of brakes.
Is there a M3 kit available? Or only 335?
I still want the link! Lol but I understand. Looking forward to more awesome videos and thank you for doing the test for us
Thanks for checking out the vids and watching a long. Sorry about the link, but it's pretty easy to find them. Just type those 2 words in to google... i dare you :P
@@ZeroTo60Tube i got ahold of them and chatting with them also. found they had blue calipers with just a M logo.. lol that wouldnt have been that bad vs these brembos?
@@supraboy82 can you send me the link I can’t find it
What size rotors for the back and front? And... I fund them on alibaba, do they really work good?
Got same brakes but matched to original discs to fit 18" OEM rims.
Serial numbers? I wouldn't be surprised if it is same factory as Brembo just sold through the back door. I think the msport bumpers have bigger airducts directed to the brakes so maybe looking into upgrading that for your stock bumper. Might help. Not sure
If you have brembos already can you trust does rotors? Since rotors in USA run you about 1,600 just rotors no calipers. And I seen rotors on AliExpress for about $600 the set.
I dont want to say these are as good as the real deal. But if you are not doing heavy track work i "think" they will be fine. If you are doing like 20 minute plus track sessions, brakes are really working hard and that might need some more thought.
Do "bremso" branding on the brakes (means Breaking in german)
Patiently waiting for the instal video and testing
FYI guys if you go for a M3 master cylinder, you need to get a RHD master, they're pretty tricky to source as lots of non ///M owners use them for F80 M3 four piston retrofits
Honestly, these could be true Brembo's. Lots of chinese factory workers will take the items that are still fully functional, but didn't pass the company's QC and just resell them elsewhere at a discount without the parent company's knowledge.
Do some temperature measurements after a couple of brake tests and compare them! Also you could do the same with the fluid. Great videos guys! I’m following you from the beginning and my 335 i is as well hahah
Factory brake lines are braided fwiw
Also 345mm discs if I remember right - M3 ones are 350?
I wonder if official Brembo pads will work with this kit.
I have been following the whole build with feverish anticipation! I too have been rebuilding my 2009 335i but not to the extent of bigger turbos -- yet.
I have done fabrication before to fit larger brake kits to cars so I am completely interested in these for my car. I do not track my car so I would love to find out where to get these.
My little one day search has not yielded the right setup for Dickass brake set up on a 2009 BMW 335i. Maybe the branding has changed a little to DicCase with the C looking like a missing part of the K.
Please, please, please tell us how to get them.
There are quite a few companies selling these brakes on ali under lots of different names. The issue is making sure whoever puts the kit together is supplying all the right parts, correct callipers. Even things like pison sizes need to be checked to make sure you get the right kit. They are cheap but you have to put the work in with the ali express sellers.
@@ZeroTo60Tube Thanks for responding! I see that can be the issue.
Also, saw the post on e90post. One Dickass thread. Lol
Also how funny. Brembo Brake rotors are no longer manufactured in the United States or Canada for aftermarket consumption. The “domestic” brands you may be familiar with (Raybestos,Wagner, Bendix, Centric, Motorcraft, Delco) are all manufactured in China/Taiwan.
N54 logo would be awesome!
Put "TeamN54" on the Calipers 👍👍👍👍👍👍
Your comedy is too good 👍🏻👍🏻
haha thanks dude. Hope you got a little laugh out of it.
Zero To 60 sure did
TeamN54 crewneck sweatshirt ordered, looks mad, boss has a 135i so hopefully it gets some recognition
Thanks so much dude. We are gonna put something together for the OGs who have supported us early by doing things like buying merch. Will be a bit like a private facebook or whatsapp group so you can see behind the scenes stuff and stay in contact with us down track.
@@ZeroTo60Tube Awesome, would be great to see the cars one day maybe at the track 👍
Who's to say they're not the actual Sub contracted manufacturer of the Brembo breaks?
I'll say it.... they are not... haha. However they are making a good product. Just dont use the pads the entry level pads
hi 0 to 60,
would you be able to provide the correct link to the product?
Thanks 0 to 60
Are there still fitting in use or removed it out now ?
Still in, but the car hadn’t done much driving.
Lovely set of brakes for the money. You reckon I can buy the exact same set here in the UK?
Unfortunately I am sure there are people selling them in the Uk as genuine brembos.
The rotors are 380mm, what size are your alloys? I have 18's and wondering if a 380 will fit.
From what i have read some aftermarket 18's will work with the 380mm kit. But 19s are safer.
You're clearly happy with them
most performance brakes have a heat sensitive paint that will tell you how hot the rotor get maybe you could try to get some of this paint to allow you to tell how hot the rotor gets while in use
Where can I order it from
Go direct to the source link in description.
Do the brembo font but make it say budget lool
So when you need a brake job where do you find pads and rotors?
You can buy these exact ones from dickass, however the pads for the real brembos do also fit these ass well.
@@ZeroTo60Tube any hope of getting the real link to these?🤫🤔
I fitted a set of genuine brembos to a commodore recently and they had "made in italy" cast into the back of em.... but far out there some big af brakes gonna suck your eye balls out 🤣🤘
I liked the bit: "do you want a drink?" "red bull".
I understand the comparison to the brakes.
Obviously DickAss on the calipers! My favorite brake caliper color is orange.
Beautiful set. Feel bad for Brembo too. Very curious about the installation.
I did Google it, hahaha. Like the humor in this vid.
O shit and I clicked the url and got rickrolled.
haha sorry about the rolling, i couldnt resist, if it makes you feel any better 500 other people have also been rolled this morning :P Also we are gonna do something for the OGs that jumped on and supported us early with the merch, so keep an eye out if you are interested. It will be something like a private group where you can see some behind the scenes stuff before it makes it to youtube and also stay in contact with us both as things evolve.
@@ZeroTo60Tube That sounds awesome!
Check for brake fade. Im sure thats where the difference is going to happen from these to brembos
pls measure the caliper piston sizes... especially the rears :)
Will do, will do. What is the benefit of working out the piston sizes? :)
@@ZeroTo60Tube dickass never list the sizes, nor do brembo in a easy to find place. It is useful to work out brake bias and brake force when combined with master cylinder size.
Good video guys.
I used to have access to brake pedal force transducer etc etc, but changed jobs :(
It would have been good to help out. Sorry guys.
I have no knowledge about the park brake setup on BWMs or these Bremos, but just wanted to make sure you'll still have a rear handbrake preferabley before you take the old stuff off and start installing the new stuff and have to re-do everything again. I know some of the willwood kits I've looked at for other cars don't have a handbrake function at all.
Keep up the good work guys.
That would have been awesome to check. I am fairly confident my pedal feel will be different. It will take less for to get the same stopping power, but the pedal movement will be further (i hope that makes sense). In regards to the handbrake, yes this kit is supplied with a rear rotor hat that has the provisioning for the handbrake. The kit appears to be spot on so far.
Just got my Chinese turbos delivered! Hoping there isn't too much difference for an install on a Z4 35i! Great work gyuys. Keep the Vid's coming #AUSN54
Hell yeah! I love the Z4 35i's. Do you have insta? Kinda wanna check the car out.
Hi. I buy same turbos last year. They smoke when I drive below 2000 rpm for several minutes. When I stop, a little smoke passes me and then there is no smoke. I repaired them twice and the problem persists. Consult several mechanics and they tell me that there is nothing to do, that all turbos do that except the Pure. Do you have this problem? Is your exhaust system totally free? Thank you
No, well not yet. But normally smoke when you come to a stop is cause by oil in the pcv system. It builds up in the intake on the rear turbo so when you brake it rushing forward in to the turbo. Have you done the pcv upgrade or a catch can yet?
Zero To 60 pcv upgrade yes, catch can not yet. thanks for the information, I'm going to put catch can
I reckon do the brake comparison from a higher speed as I didn't notice a diffenrce in distance from 100 with mine as it all comes down to grip. Maybe try getting both hot first as well to see how they each perform when cold and warm
That was my concern. Do you think 150-50 would be a good comparison?
I reckon so. Should mostly eliminate grip issues cause I think you'd want to avoid abs kicking in
These look awesome!
They do LOOK awesome. Hopefully they actually perform as well as they look.
Zero To 60 if any ones gonna figure it out it’ll be you guys. And I hope you can maybe figure a way out to tell if they are real or really fake with out testing them. I’d hate to see someone get ripped off on line or a market place as you guys spoke about... 😳
Do those brake lines have a 'DOT approval' label on them even? The kit is amazing, it will be interesting to see how the pads and rotors fare (or don't).
They don't. They do have a label with a few certification numbers on, but nothing that references DOT.
Those brakes will WARP within a month or two and then you will do another video why you removed them 🤞🏽
Are you sure they are not ‘genuine but stolen’ brakes?
I really don't think they are genuine.
Those brakes still going strong on the 17T car? Good/bad? Keep up the good work man! Greeting from Sweden🏁
No leaks, a fair bit of the mounting hardware could probably do with being replaced on the 17t car due to corrosion. Aside from that all good really.
@@ZeroTo60Tube Sounds good! What about brake feel & pedal travel? Good/Bad?
Thanks for the awesome video on those parts
Since you go for aftermarket BBK
in Eu a lot of people go for the OEM M-Performance 4-piston/2-pistron upgrade from BMW F20/F30
you can get the 370mm 4-piston front / 345mm 2-piston rear OEM from BMW for around 3k (excluding brake lines and modification on the rear caliper)
where as the Brembo kit goes for 3 to 4k front alone
how is the situation in Australia regarding those parts - or do they not get used at all and most go for a brembo/stoptech/willwood bbk instead ?
No to be honest very similar situation on in regards to people using the F20/F30 ones. The Brembos are also quite popular. You only really see race cars with the willwoods and Stoptech is pretty rare here.
Where did you get the t shirt? Cheers
They are from teespring. We got our second batch yesterday. We wanted to make sure they were ok before telling people about them. Since teespring is one of the biggest shirt manufacturers in the world they should be fine, but we just wanted to check. The premium shirts are nicer, but not being a fashion nut, i am happy with the cheaper teespring shirts. We do need to sort something out for Aussies, as shipping on teespring is a bit of a killer down to Australia. teespring.com/stores/zero-to-60
I think real test for these would be to measure how much they flex. Have dial indicator mounted somewhere, have the engine running / brake booster working and measure the flex from the caliper surface. Even the real Brembos will show movement on the indicator dial. If you have friends who own Evo, STI, GTR or even a Porsche, you could compare the results.
This test is something i need to look in too. Thanks for the info.
Maybe this is another situation where in China they still have all the tooling and drawings left over from when they did some manufacturing for Brembo etc. So they would be identical, other then possibly the quality of materials. Brembaux?
Hi there to compare the brakes use a work shop that has a road worthy brake tester that measure applied force to pedal and metres to stop the vehicle from any speed they should do it for little cost or even free if you give the shop a plug on you tube
Could they be real brembo kit? Brembo has factories in China, maybe they are from the same factory and doesn't meet the QC standard?
Hey hey! First thanks for becoming a member really appreciate it. I don’t think they are genuine, but I think they work just as good, so far anyway
Was that 2k including shipping?
It was yes. Fedex quick shipping too.
@@ZeroTo60Tube surely fedex hit you up for customs duty gst etc?
Do a 5 times from 150 to 50 and braking distance from 100 to 0 and take average. Compare with old one
What episode are those brakes from?🤣
Cool and fun/ funny video💪🏼🤘🏼
I might have to try these! I almost ordered some knock offs from a company called "Bimbo" and the rotors were in the shape of boobs 🤣
hahaha lol.
well only Supplier I can find are Guangzhou Wantian Industrial off Alibaba, I wish they would really just say where they came from. Its interesting to research this
Brembo's are made in China. Have been for about 20 years. All brakes. Do the research before you start trashing them as copies.
You are 100% right ,people dont do research and keep beleive wath people says impossible that IS a copy,copy look like they are not the exact product like these they are genuine brembo but where not sale by brembo somebody pick theme up in the production Line before 😁
Brembo TRW TEXTAR MINTEx delphi are made in china. And the mf phones we use are too people are deluded when made in china is mentioned
To be honest I actually was going to look at those brakes but said I got Rick rolled my man I’m just gonna buy some cheap breaks
Your car is a threat for national security, too much Chinese parts...
"The car who spied me" 😂
oh shiiiit
The link takes you to Rick Astley - Never Gonna Give You Up (Video)
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rickrolling I did say in the video i wasn't going to link to where i bought them :P hehe
I support the 60 to zero labelling
My current favourite too!
I will be not surprised if they will be original Brembo from Chinese factory
I would be
@@dbnpoldermans4120 almost every company makes everything in China for bigger profit, so they just make more of them and sell them on a side. Common practice in China
I do not think these are made in the brembo factory. I also dont think the GT6 and GT4 calipers are made in china. Brembo may have factories in china making certain components, but it wont be the whole calipers.
@@ZeroTo60Tube Yeh the brembo calipers I'd bought for my e92 M3 brake setup had cast made in italy on them, would be interesting to weigh to compare chinese vs real deal
I like your videos before I even watch them- lol
Haha I saw these brakes and was like "Who the hell calls their brakes dickase" then decided to look up a video.
W Anchors !
hahahah effing hell. I legit had to read that twice before it clicked.
After seeing this I'm really impressed, looking forward to hearing your review, maybe some dickass brakes in my future
Ah that's a ripper.. or should I say 'RIPPOFF'. DickAss corp. could've branded em' as KickAss big brake kit lol. The callipers in bright orange or lime green would look cooler IMO. Hope the brake fade is better than the standard set-up.
The powder coating, if they actually are powder coated, is the dead giveaway that they're knockoffs. Genuine Brembos have silky smooth finishes with no orange peel or imperfections in the finish coating, they almost look dipped. The coating imperfections stand out on these Chinese knockoffs.
The thing I would be worried though, is are these brakes going to fail on me. Don't want to be gambling with my life just to look cool.
As an engineer who produces some of our materials in China but most of it here in Europe, I can definitely say that China has faulty quality control for sure, if any.
Though not all is bad for sure. It's just always a wonder to see how the materials will last.
Can you measure g force for comparing brakes? Keep the vids coming still wish you bought cheapest chinese coilovers to see how bad they are. 👍👍
Yes we can measure deceleration. Quite accurately with either vbox or the dragy.
Look Up Jekit Brakes and Mattox Brakes and all of us budget builders will be satisfied...
Temp paint on the rotors is a good method. apracing.com/race-car/brake-pads/measuring-brake-temperature
Then get some temp stickers on the calipers as well.
For caliper decals, do “budget” in “brembo” font. 😂
Also, looking forward to the install vid!
Thats not a bad idea. Any idea what the font is?