Obamagamer34! Not when it came out though. I think it became the blue print for so many indie rock songs in the 90s. Maybe that’s why you feel like it is generic?
@@iamsheep thats probably it, idk, its just to me tht new dawn fades seems like it doesnt have alot of interesting sounds like something from still or something from an ideal for living
@@iamsheep hmmm, i could say something obvious like shes lost control or insight, however in my opinion the best joy division song is either no love lost or something must break. how about you?
For me, the most heart-breaking part is Ian Curtis died not knowing the scale of Joy Division's achievement, how many lives the band would touch, how many artists would be inspired by their music, how much respect would be paid to them.
@@SocietyOfTheSpectacl hey man what’s Bill Gates got to do with Joy Division you’re commenting on the wrong department mind you saying that I will watch it out of curiosity buddy so greetings from England 🏴💞✝️😘🎸🤘🇬🇧🤪💞✝️😘🤘🙏🏻🎸🇬🇧🤪🤘
as much as he is hated by some, fucker has some great comments/ideas and has made some great music. Black Flag and SOA are legend bands, would of not been the same without him. Saw Rollins band live in 92' , on their End of Silence tour, the fucker was amazing to listen too and watch.. I was half drunk and trippin on half an acid tab.. I was entranced by the band and him.. He's an excellent front man when he's in the zone.
The happiest day in your life is the day when you gain the courage to let go of the things you can't change. You will face many defeats in life but don't let yourself be one of them. 👍😎
63 year old racing at Oulton Park in the UK last weekend, called at Macclesfield cemetery to pay my respects,last time i stood near Ian Curtis was 1979.
Control was a really good film. Even for people who aren't huge fans of the band, the acting, cinematography, everything in the film worked so well. It seemed like a great depiction of Ian Curtis.
Agreed. Huge props to the director Anton Corbijn, who photographed the band for years and the director of the Atmosphere music video. He was the perfect person to direct this film.
My son had epilepsy as a baby when the seizures started I felt so helpless. I cannot image what my son felt. It must have been imaginably horrible when your body shakes and there is nothing you can do. And to put this lack or control and feeling to song and to include his own blame as well is truly magic.
Absolutely. Side 1 starts with Disorder and ends with New Dawn Fades, perfectly encapsulating the era and setting the stage for years to come. Incredibly influential!
i disagree entirely, he was surely the opposite, entirely flawed and human, he did bad things, made bad choices, had a temper even with his band and family, but was also good, and soulful and heartfelt, very emotional and sensetive in many accounts. to say he's good or bad is just matyring or demonising him... which i think is kinda against the point.
@@2degucitas Maybe he was just...HUMAN??!! NOT a Saint or a Sinner - just a flawed human being like the vast majority of people are. However he had THE TALENT to EXPRESS his pain & regret through his lyrics and a REMARKABLE singing voice. Backed by music that was PERFECTLY IN SYNC with what he was trying to say - from HOOKY's BASS being the rising & falling PULSE of JOY DIVISION; to BARNEY's chiming guitar & SYNTH Work to STEPHEN MORRIS's MILITARY STYLE precise DRUMMING. Where everything JUST WORKED to better the song. Long Live JOY DIVISION.😍
As a fellow epilepsy sufferer I can confirm the toll it takes on our emotional well being, although my epilepsy is different (peti-mals). There is only 3 types of medication for mine I have been on all 3 to no avail, when they are really bad it can develop in a full on seizure. I can really relate to how poor Ian felt scared, low moods, hopelessness, memory loss, exhaustion the list goes on. R.i.p ian💙
@Glorious Tales Thankyou for your reply I'm sorry to hear you have suffered too, I'm so glad your doing well with your medication. I'm trying to reduce my siezures through my diet it helps a little, but we are strong and carry on. Take care. X
@Glorious Tales I was diognosed at 15 (I'm now 42) I was in special needs classes at school as they thought I had learning difficulties, they couldn't understand how I could do poor in some tests but high in others. They put a teacher next to me to see if they could pick up on anything, and my teacher witnessed me having an absence siezures. X
Epilepsy is fucking embarrassing. It'll hit you in the most public of places like a supermarket. You fall and on your way down your head will hit every shelf knocking over all kinds of shit. Then you start flopping around like a fish. I have PTSD too so I'd get up swinging thinking I'm being attacked. Then there's the look of horror of everyone that witness you have a seizure. I want to understand why Ian felt like he had to end himself because that disorder will hold you hostage. It'll make your friends never to look at you the same again.
@@mikeruiz3046 thankyou for sharing I really get your frustration in some ways I consider myself fortunate that I don't have many grand-mal siezures, but constantly have absence siezures day in and day out there's just no end to them. I've lost count of people who want to pick a fight because I've blacked out and appears to them like I'm staring at them, loosing conversation, read something then have to repeat, anxiety, depression......your right it is just fucking horrible! Sending best wishes to you....
I'm 57 and Joy Division is my favorite band I think of them every morning at dawn and watch some of their videos or just listen to some of the music. RIP. Ian Curtis
When I was a teenager in the late 1980s I once dreamed of a Joy Division movie. Back then, they were not popular at all. In fact, the only person outside "the scene" who I ever met who heard of them was a mechanic who changed my oil who was from Manchester. Then slowly, they became more and more popular. I am glad they have the recognition they deserve. At the same time I have utter contempt for the music scene that practically ignored them for 20 years.
my student and I were talking. me ,saying I'm a great Sisters of Mercy fan; he a big fan of Joy Division. he presented me with New Dawn Fades (that I immediately loved) and I introduced him to an early 1985 alternate version of SOM's Some kind of Stranger - we were so amused to hear the similarities to the mettalic splashing of the electro drums beating- so much alike ( to my hearing at least) and the FIRST 3 or 4 seconds of the bass line that reminds us of SOM's EMMA. Incredible. Definitely 2 great bands.
Truly one of the most influential bands that pioneered the way to alternative rock. It's tragic that he lost his fight against the darkness before he could see the influence his music made.
So tragic. I have listened to this song since the 1980s.He lets you in to his soul and heart. I don't know how many artists have ever been that honest,I can't imagine what he was feeling.And I have been through everything you can think of except being the adulterer and being a parent. And I am not judging when I use the A word. Young people,even brilliant and otherwise mature men like Mr.Curtis are still growing up. He had a career,mortgage,wife,and kid before most people finish college. And he was on the verge of international stardom and already the subject of high critical acclaim.Add to that severe epilepsy with barbaric and primitive treatments that can cause depression even in people not torn apart by an affair,the stress of marriage and parenthood-this was a huge load.And he let us in on it. I hope his widowed wife and child have a great life,and I know his bandmates handled it better than I would have.Eventhough you can see that they are still haunted by it 40 years later.
Beautifully written young man he will always be young and handsome he’ll never grow old and miserable and be tempted by ungodly things his money could have bought he will always be the young sexy frontman with a successful band who wrote beautiful lyrics and slightly troubled look at what some artists do with their money and their attitude stinks
Performing live emotionally drained Ian, his songs were deeply personal and a form of therapy in writing and recording but it was torture to him to perform them live, over and over again. I would go as far to say that he did not look forward to the upcoming tour, it was the final trigger of a deepening depression. On a darker note, hadn't it been for Ian's troubled mind, we would have never had Joy Division.
Until you have experienced being a parent your experience of life is slight and shallow. I'm sorry to say it but it is. Bringing a child into the world is the most profound thing you can ever experience. Of course those who haven't will obviously disagree. But they're arguing from a place of ignorance. Those who are parents know what life is life before you have kids and what it's like after you have. So clearly their opinion is more qualified. I have also experienced a lot in my 50 years but to date bringing a child into the world was the most intense.
Such a masterpiece! The introductory bass line & drums is unparallel...JD & early New Order are my favourites bands by far...! The 80s were great, miss it altought I was only a kid back then...
Great interpretation and brought a tear to my eye. My life changed when I first saw JD at the Leigh Festival (78?) Looking back, their story is like their music; it scales the heights and plunges to the very depths yet is somehow uplifting throughout. And I remember, when we were young.
Great video... This song really shows the talent of the band without obnoxiously long solos... The hard bass line by Peter Hook, the hypnotic signing and lyrics of Ian, the drums throughout the song and the strong lead guitar at the end....
It breaks my heart that Ian never got to know the full extent of just how much he is adored and loves by his fans and supporters. He is one of the reasons I am still alive. I miss you deeply, though we never met.
Holy *#@%& does this song take me back. Listening to this INSTANTLY transports me back to the 80s, spending many a' day surfing Patrick's and 2nd light near Cocoa Beach FL, obsessing on Joy Division. And a little THC made it all so much better back in those days. : ) I'm in my 50s now and I still love this band. RIP Ian Curtis.
I'm 49 now, and I heard this song in my late teens...... but I never grasped the pain and suffering Ian was going thru then........ It took me growing up, working shitty jobs, going thru failed relationships, seeing my buddies both M/F die around me , seeing my friends commit suicide or OD..... to really grasp Ian's pain , hurt and agony. This is the most beautiful song in the world. Love you Ian, I hope you are at peace now.
I think some of us were lucky to be blessed to be able to turn the darkness into something bearable. After growing up in 70,s ireland and under attack from all sides of the fascist religious spectrum and mastering the art of being able to just step out emotion wise after countless tragedies and darkness. i guess i was lucky to have met some warm souls and had lots of sweet old irish music to help keep the light on
This song takes me back to a dark time, a time of fresh music, fresh beginnings, new experiences, uncertain futures, the uncertainty of the future, the sorrow of loss... I took the blame...
Love this with every time continuous sound webbed together like the spirals of loneliness and all the accepted fears of ones personal pain reflected through their life.
Underplayed, underrated, but one of the most influential bands. Btw, to people commenting about the bass riff, Peter Hook has stated this is his favorite one also.
Ian was caught between two women one the mother of his child and the world outside music. The other a kindred spirit who saw the genius of his art. He loved both and couldn’t bear it anymore.
Just resonates with so many individuals of different generations ...obviously music that transcends time and will stay ..... ........of that there is no doubt ........still listening ....
L'acteur ressemble vraiment trait pour trait à Ian Curtis, c'est impressionnant 😱 Joy Division le meilleur groupe de tout les temps, merci d'avoir existé 💜💚💛 env 40 ans que je vous écoute, je vous aime toujours autant si ce n'est + que quand je vous est découvert il y a bien longtemps, dans une autre vie, dans ma vie de maintenant vous êtes l'orage et en même temps le calme quand l'orage est fini, avec cette air chargé d'un ''je ne sais quoi'' électrique qui m'envoie tellement d'ondes de mélancolie joyeuse et me donne l'énergie pulsative de croire en mes rêves 😎 merci d'avoir existé pour mon plus grand bonheur et celui de tout ceux qui vous 💛💚💜 Mon poto Ludo, je ne sais ce kill y a aprés, mais ce que j'espère! si un ''haut dela'' existe, c'est que Ian Curtis est venu te chercher et que vous vous enfilés de 8.6 assis sur le bords d'une galaxie, en vous foutant de la connerie humaine, je t'aime mon Ludo, ton passage sur cette terre à été trop rapide à mon goût, tu été mon seul vrai poto, tu me manque énormément :( j'espère que tu viendra aussi me chercher avec quelques chopes de brune ou rousse, on ira se prendre des pintes au Valhalla dans des orgies d'alcool, de drogue et de sexe, même si cela, hélas, ne doit pas exister 😱 on oubliera pas d'aller voir Lemmy qui doit avoir une bonne descente aussi, une existante lymbatique sans tout ses abrutis terrien serai sympa / Rest in Anarchy / Ludo mon pote, mon frangin, mon copain, mon poto ...on devait faire tellement de choses encore, t'est parti trop vite, les faire sans toi n'a plus d'importance, t'aurai du m'en parlai, cette cabane dans les montagnes des alpes ne nous verra jamais, on aurai eu la belle vie la bas ...la croisée des chemins aurait peut être eu la bonté de nous y emmener ensemble par un hiver trop froid. Tu me manque tout les jours que créé cet univers, le plus accaparent de tout mes fantomes, tu vis toujours dans un coin de mon cerveau / mon poto à la vida à la muerté 💜💀💛✖💚👻
Such a brilliant song. An all time favorite. Echo like vocals, great lyric, that moody sound these guys mastered ... the vocals are soooo good. An amazing talent was Curtis ..just brilliant
Просто,думается, раннее взросление, раннее творческое начало.... И раннее разочарование в окружающей действительности. К тому же, Кертис признавался, что устал бороться с болезнью...
My soul becomes strangely heavy for unknown reasons every time I see, hear their music. The feeling is the one that I have never felt. Different from every other feeling but more unique and deep. I feel like I knew him far before I have born.
This was a picture of the U.K. at its very best. We can’t comprehend how good we was back then. Sid said a few years before we had this track that we had no future. He was bang on the money.
My coworker and I would underwrite loans next to each other, listening to joy division and talk about how this band saved our lives as teenagers and we were 20 years in age apart.
Still gives me goosebumps. I seem to remember John Peel noting that there was huge number of votes from Poland for New Dawn Fades for that year's Festive 50 - 1980 from memory. This track is a close second to Atmosphere, for which my first listening was also a Festive 50 countdown. I was only 14 years old at the time so those moments of clarity have lasted a lifetime.
Jeez that's my story too...same age too! Bought all their vinyl from HMV Liverpool when the independent charts were separate. Used all my paper round money. I used to take the records in to school for the teachers to tape. Such a beautiful song!
@@tubthump I have so many great memories of hearing incredible bands including Joy Division, late at night on the Peel Show. Along with Alan Freeman's rock show on a Saturday afternoon, these were the only two I listened to. I also have old tapes of the Festive 50. A little worn now, but still an absolute joy to listen to them today 😊 I have also managed to find digital versions of many of the Peel Sessions that have been uploaded on YT down the years. The talent of those times just leaps at you from the speakers and smacks you in the ears.
How Ian poured his whole self in the delivery of the lines...great lyrics and the driving of that bass and the drums being led as opposed to leading...so refreshing and unique...a lot of bands were influenced by Joy Division...like the whole goth scene. The drums either resembled the cadence of steady rain or a dying person's heart..so beautiful and sad their songs were...i was deeply moved by their work.
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Still their greatest song imo.
to me new dawn fades seems like one of the most generic songs off of unknown pleasures, its still good though
Obamagamer34! Not when it came out though. I think it became the blue print for so many indie rock songs in the 90s. Maybe that’s why you feel like it is generic?
@@iamsheep thats probably it, idk, its just to me tht new dawn fades seems like it doesnt have alot of interesting sounds like something from still or something from an ideal for living
Obamagamer34! Interesting. What’s your favourite JD song?
@@iamsheep hmmm, i could say something obvious like shes lost control or insight, however in my opinion the best joy division song is either no love lost or something must break. how about you?
For me, the most heart-breaking part is Ian Curtis died not knowing the scale of Joy Division's achievement, how many lives the band would touch, how many artists would be inspired by their music, how much respect would be paid to them.
Let’s hope he is looking down on us and realising just how gorgeous he was and how much we all appreciated and loved him and his talent 💞🤘🎸🇬🇧
Jason how true, the truly brilliant seldom get to realise their brilliance
totally understand and agree with that mate.
Wake up and Wise UP
Who is Bill Gates ?
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@@SocietyOfTheSpectacl hey man what’s Bill Gates got to do with Joy Division you’re commenting on the wrong department mind you saying that I will watch it out of curiosity buddy so greetings from England 🏴💞✝️😘🎸🤘🇬🇧🤪💞✝️😘🤘🙏🏻🎸🇬🇧🤪🤘
Like Henry Rollins said " When the dust settles , and its all said and done Joy Division will be known as one of the greatest bands"
Hear! Hear!
as much as he is hated by some, fucker has some great comments/ideas and has made some great music. Black Flag and SOA are legend bands, would of not been the same without him. Saw Rollins band live in 92' , on their End of Silence tour, the fucker was amazing to listen too and watch.. I was half drunk and trippin on half an acid tab.. I was entranced by the band and him.. He's an excellent front man when he's in the zone.
True. Joy Division is pure art... Miles away from any pretentious paraphernalia
Definitely changed how bands thought about music
This is why Joy Division, were added to the UK Music Hall of Fame.
It is GENIUS!
I'm 68 and Joy Division is still my favorite band ever.
Feel the same best band and that’s since I was a teenager back in the 80’s
@@donaldmacdonald4901 😍
@@tehsixpine9705 Still fantastic after all these years 🤗
im 22 and same
Meine auch
Life is impossible to live when you can't live with yourself .
Damn 🙁
Wtf said this 😢 but, 💯💯🖤🖤👍🏾👍🏾
True..I feel terrible in my own body. Always anxious, panic attacks, feel like I'm on a roller coaster that won't stop. I totally get that quote 100%.
The happiest day in your life is the day when you gain the courage to let go of the things you can't change. You will face many defeats in life but don't let yourself be one of them. 👍😎
@@Adm6475 AGREED !
I was in my late 20s when I first heard and loved them,I am now 73 and still feel the same.
63 year old racing at Oulton Park in the UK last weekend, called at Macclesfield cemetery to pay my respects,last time i stood near Ian Curtis was 1979.
like me, I am 72
i'm 18
Im 13.
I'm gay
Control was a really good film. Even for people who aren't huge fans of the band, the acting, cinematography, everything in the film worked so well. It seemed like a great depiction of Ian Curtis.
Agreed. Huge props to the director Anton Corbijn, who photographed the band for years and the director of the Atmosphere music video. He was the perfect person to direct this film.
@@iamsheep (and its free on TH-cam---I couldn't believe it!!!)😍😍
Anton Corbyn is a huge joy division fan
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It's a horror story.
I've heard that song a thousand times and it still brings me to tears.
The older I get, the more I understand the pain in his voice❤️
Me too.
Согласен
Same, and the dude was only 23 when he died.
don't know how old you are, but I heard it from the first time, I was not 20
I feel you
Still crying for you over 40 years later, beautiful Ian..
wow did you know him?
Yes, they met at a pub in Fullchester, Robert Smith was sitting next to them and was quite drunk too.
Hi China,I recommend a song called 'Where I Come From' By Robert Nix
Ian Curtis changed my life forever... Joy Division will be my favorite band forever...
and, the DOORS....
www.youtube.com/@club_atmosphere2023
Pure genius. Breaks all the rules of songwriting and invents new ones.
My son had epilepsy as a baby when the seizures started I felt so helpless. I cannot image what my son felt. It must have been imaginably horrible when your body shakes and there is nothing you can do. And to put this lack or control and feeling to song and to include his own blame as well is truly magic.
Thank you for sharing that story.
Thankfully there are much better medicines you can take to control the seizures today.
I started seizing in my 30s. It's horrifying because you don't remember anything afterwards. And your whole body aches.
Nothing more to say.........joy division changed my hole life since i am 13 years old. Mindblowing........
www.youtube.com/@club_atmosphere2023
im 14 now and theyre the best band ive ever heard i love them more than anything
One of the greatest songs ever recorded. Period.
Amen🙏
i agree
Absolutely. Side 1 starts with Disorder and ends with New Dawn Fades, perfectly encapsulating the era and setting the stage for years to come. Incredibly influential!
@@auerod Is a monster album if you not heard it - unknown
Agree
Lately, Ian Curtis lyrics are the only thing that brings some relief in my life.
Keep talking
There are many that share that. So, if you're still feeling low. ..then reach out!
This is so true
That immense sadness in his voice and words, my heart goes out to his pain. Too good for this world RIP ian curtis.
Too many have felt his pain he is not alone
i disagree entirely, he was surely the opposite, entirely flawed and human, he did bad things, made bad choices, had a temper even with his band and family, but was also good, and soulful and heartfelt, very emotional and sensetive in many accounts. to say he's good or bad is just matyring or demonising him... which i think is kinda against the point.
Hi I recommend taking a listen to a song called 'Where I Come From' By Robert Nix
He wasn't good. He messed up his body and relationships, but we love him anyway
@@2degucitas Maybe he was just...HUMAN??!! NOT a Saint or a Sinner - just a flawed human being like the vast majority of people are. However he had THE TALENT to EXPRESS his pain & regret through his lyrics and a REMARKABLE singing voice. Backed by music that was PERFECTLY IN SYNC with what he was trying to say - from HOOKY's BASS being the rising & falling PULSE of JOY DIVISION; to BARNEY's chiming guitar & SYNTH Work to STEPHEN MORRIS's MILITARY STYLE precise DRUMMING. Where everything JUST WORKED to better the song. Long Live JOY DIVISION.😍
I’m 58 and the best gig I ever went to until today was Joy Division at ULU when I was still actually only 16 !
that's amazing
Hopefully you’ve got the CD/MP3s of the ULU show, as it’s a great performance? Closer-themed.
@@dacra9625 yes! I have the CDs. 🙂👍
@@derin111 oh my god you are so lucky im jealous af
Cara fez parte da história que privilégio.
One of the most powerful songs ever
As a fellow epilepsy sufferer I can confirm the toll it takes on our emotional well being, although my epilepsy is different (peti-mals). There is only 3 types of medication for mine I have been on all 3 to no avail, when they are really bad it can develop in a full on seizure. I can really relate to how poor Ian felt scared, low moods, hopelessness, memory loss, exhaustion the list goes on. R.i.p ian💙
@Glorious Tales Thankyou for your reply I'm sorry to hear you have suffered too, I'm so glad your doing well with your medication. I'm trying to reduce my siezures through my diet it helps a little, but we are strong and carry on. Take care. X
@Glorious Tales I was diognosed at 15 (I'm now 42) I was in special needs classes at school as they thought I had learning difficulties, they couldn't understand how I could do poor in some tests but high in others. They put a teacher next to me to see if they could pick up on anything, and my teacher witnessed me having an absence siezures. X
Epilepsy is fucking embarrassing. It'll hit you in the most public of places like a supermarket. You fall and on your way down your head will hit every shelf knocking over all kinds of shit. Then you start flopping around like a fish. I have PTSD too so I'd get up swinging thinking I'm being attacked. Then there's the look of horror of everyone that witness you have a seizure. I want to understand why Ian felt like he had to end himself because that disorder will hold you hostage. It'll make your friends never to look at you the same again.
@@mikeruiz3046 thankyou for sharing I really get your frustration in some ways I consider myself fortunate that I don't have many grand-mal siezures, but constantly have absence siezures day in and day out there's just no end to them. I've lost count of people who want to pick a fight because I've blacked out and appears to them like I'm staring at them, loosing conversation, read something then have to repeat, anxiety, depression......your right it is just fucking horrible! Sending best wishes to you....
@@annmariedobbin4369 wish Ian could have shared in this exploration.
I'm 57 and Joy Division is my favorite band I think of them every morning at dawn and watch some of their videos or just listen to some of the music. RIP. Ian Curtis
@honestmark2383 fuck with smile....fuck!!
When I was a teenager in the late 1980s I once dreamed of a Joy Division movie. Back then, they were not popular at all. In fact, the only person outside "the scene" who I ever met who heard of them was a mechanic who changed my oil who was from Manchester. Then slowly, they became more and more popular. I am glad they have the recognition they deserve. At the same time I have utter contempt for the music scene that practically ignored them for 20 years.
Why is no one talking about how great this edit is
That’s very kind of you to say. Thanks 😊
What movie is this video edited from? Match song perfect.
@@kentgpins9402 Control
No doubt an awesome job of editing
I just keep watching this edit of the film Control. It's so good can't find a fault.
Genius genius genius! What a band, singer and songwriter! So fortunate to be introduced to them when I was only 13 in 1988.
that bass gets me everytime
tears start welling right as soon as it starts
Me too!
Awesome bass yes!
Hooky 💙
CJ W HOOKY THAT!!
my student and I were talking. me ,saying I'm a great Sisters of Mercy fan; he a big fan of Joy Division. he presented me with New Dawn Fades (that I immediately loved) and I introduced him to an early 1985 alternate version of SOM's Some kind of Stranger - we were so amused to hear the similarities to the mettalic splashing of the electro drums beating- so much alike ( to my hearing at least) and the FIRST 3 or 4 seconds of the bass line that reminds us of SOM's EMMA. Incredible. Definitely 2 great bands.
Truly one of the most influential bands that pioneered the way to alternative rock. It's tragic that he lost his fight against the darkness before he could see the influence his music made.
We are here. He won
@@ThisIsMyHandler👏👏👏👏👏
So tragic. I have listened to this song since the 1980s.He lets you in to his soul and heart. I don't know how many artists have ever been that honest,I can't imagine what he was feeling.And I have been through everything you can think of except being the adulterer and being a parent. And I am not judging when I use the A word. Young people,even brilliant and otherwise mature men like Mr.Curtis are still growing up. He had a career,mortgage,wife,and kid before most people finish college. And he was on the verge of international stardom and already the subject of high critical acclaim.Add to that severe epilepsy with barbaric and primitive treatments that can cause depression even in people not torn apart by an affair,the stress of marriage and parenthood-this was a huge load.And he let us in on it.
I hope his widowed wife and child have a great life,and I know his bandmates handled it better than I would have.Eventhough you can see that they are still haunted by it 40 years later.
Me too. Since first day.
Beautifully written young man he will always be young and handsome he’ll never grow old and miserable and be tempted by ungodly things his money could have bought he will always be the young sexy frontman with a successful band who wrote beautiful lyrics and slightly troubled look at what some artists do with their money and their attitude stinks
Performing live emotionally drained Ian, his songs were deeply personal and a form of therapy in writing and recording but it was torture to him to perform them live, over and over again. I would go as far to say that he did not look forward to the upcoming tour, it was the final trigger of a deepening depression.
On a darker note, hadn't it been for Ian's troubled mind, we would have never had Joy Division.
Until you have experienced being a parent your experience of life is slight and shallow. I'm sorry to say it but it is. Bringing a child into the world is the most profound thing you can ever experience. Of course those who haven't will obviously disagree. But they're arguing from a place of ignorance. Those who are parents know what life is life before you have kids and what it's like after you have. So clearly their opinion is more qualified. I have also experienced a lot in my 50 years but to date bringing a child into the world was the most intense.
Probably one of the best bass sounds in a song ever
100%
Peter Hook gave the bass a melodic role in their music.
The bass give the pain❤
Such a masterpiece! The introductory bass line & drums is unparallel...JD & early New Order are my favourites bands by far...! The 80s were great, miss it altought I was only a kid back then...
fuck NO......fuck
I can literally feel how dark this song is.. I can feel how depressed he was shit is crazy Rest In Paradise...
I feel it too. Rest In Peace Ian
They had a massive influence on a lot of bands .shame he left so early .R.I.P. Ian curtis.
I cannot listen to this song less than 20 times everytime I listen to it.
Omg same
Yup😊
Loved them for 40+ years. Still send me goosebumps and shivers. Love them.
Probably one of the greatest songs ever written!! ❤️
I can’t disagree 😀
Still makes my cry 41 years later..................
As a teen I spent hours listening to Joy Division, still love them!
Great interpretation and brought a tear to my eye. My life changed when I first saw JD at the Leigh Festival (78?) Looking back, their story is like their music; it scales the heights and plunges to the very depths yet is somehow uplifting throughout. And I remember, when we were young.
Thanks for watching and sharing your story! You're really lucky to have experienced them in person! Take care.
I think the dark energy of that time period was very real for most british people. The JD were gift at putting it to music
@@trevormadden4301 no dark, tru reality in as...
One of the darkest and most powerful songs you will ever hear.
Great video... This song really shows the talent of the band without obnoxiously long solos... The hard bass line by Peter Hook, the hypnotic signing and lyrics of Ian, the drums throughout the song and the strong lead guitar at the end....
you just cannot not fall in love with this band. Just listen to this song and become a fan with the rest of us.
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Thank you Ian Curtis , your creation touched many wounded Souls 🙏🏽
Wow! Ian’s stare at the camera right at the end just pierced my soul! RIP!
O tempo não apaga Ian Curtis e companheiros! Viverão sempre nas nossas lembranças. Serão eternamente Joy Division. Forever!
Боже, как же это прекрасно
Thank you 🙏
One of my favourite films and by far the best biopic ever made, true to the heart, no sugar coating. Perfect
Fun fact the actor who played ian is married to the actress who played annik
It breaks my heart that Ian never got to know the full extent of just how much he is adored and loves by his fans and supporters. He is one of the reasons I am still alive. I miss you deeply, though we never met.
Hi I recommend a song here on youtube called 'Where I Come From' by Robert Nix
I never realized the demons Ian dealt with. I am speechless of how great he was. RIP
Joy Division.... Ian.....Legends
This intro, bass plus drums is just amazing...great song
Holy *#@%& does this song take me back. Listening to this INSTANTLY transports me back to the 80s, spending many a' day surfing Patrick's and 2nd light near Cocoa Beach FL, obsessing on Joy Division. And a little THC made it all so much better back in those days. : ) I'm in my 50s now and I still love this band. RIP Ian Curtis.
I wonder if Ian Curtis had known about THC & CBD helping many with epilepsy if his life would have had a very different path?
Transports?,Ocky,!!!
This was such a good movie made me tear up. Rip Ian🖤
Sono passati più di 40 anni .... ancora piango 😢 bravi .....
Best song by them by miles, The bass is superb. The vocal is sublime. Awesome, excellent song.
How to insert desperation in music in the best way.
MASTERPIECE
A catastrophically gorgeous piece.
It hypnotizes
It invites one to share the pain of the author, the genius Ian Curtis......
I'm 49 now, and I heard this song in my late teens...... but I never grasped the pain and suffering Ian was going thru then........
It took me growing up, working shitty jobs, going thru failed relationships, seeing my buddies both M/F die around me , seeing my friends commit suicide or OD..... to really grasp Ian's pain , hurt and agony.
This is the most beautiful song in the world. Love you Ian, I hope you are at peace now.
I think some of us were lucky to be blessed to be able to turn the darkness into something bearable. After growing up in 70,s ireland and under attack from all sides of the fascist religious spectrum and mastering the art of being able to just step out emotion wise after countless tragedies and darkness. i guess i was lucky to have met some warm souls and had lots of sweet old irish music to help keep the light on
bruh he literally walks in jesus' shoes, its intense... walked on water and went to hell for everyone and only found himself there for himself...
This song takes me back to a dark time, a time of fresh music, fresh beginnings, new experiences, uncertain futures, the uncertainty of the future, the sorrow of loss... I took the blame...
Amazing . Ian singing from the heart with real emotion.
A beautiful soul. Truly a raw & pure sound echoing through the ages.
Can't stop listening to this song
Ian’s voice - so strong and beautiful
This is better than the official music video.
Thank you that’s very kind!
Much better! Especially montage in the end. Thank you!
true
There's an official music video?
(Kid from we are the millers)
Outstanding band. Curtis had an amazing voice.
Love this with every time continuous sound webbed together like the spirals of loneliness and all the accepted fears of ones personal pain reflected through their life.
I am still grateful that I was young , angry and fortunate to have witnessed the music from these days. Unbeatable
I'm got old at 53. I feel this is the greatest band, best movie that my unfortunate fellow Americans bypassed. At least I found both now.
Underplayed, underrated, but one of the most influential bands. Btw, to people commenting about the bass riff, Peter Hook has stated this is his favorite one also.
..............don't shit...........
This sound is unmistakable !!! Simply brilliant👍🏼❤️💋
Ian was caught between two women one the mother of his child and the world outside music. The other a kindred spirit who saw the genius of his art. He loved both and couldn’t bear it anymore.
Just resonates with so many individuals of different generations ...obviously music that transcends time and will stay ..... ........of that there is no doubt ........still listening ....
This song still sends a shiver down my spine, the best song off the best album they did!
Definitely!
This brings me back to circa 1980, as a 13 year old listening to John Peel on my mums old radio because it had FM. Would go back in a heart beat.
L'acteur ressemble vraiment trait pour trait à Ian Curtis, c'est impressionnant 😱
Joy Division le meilleur groupe de tout les temps, merci d'avoir existé 💜💚💛
env 40 ans que je vous écoute, je vous aime toujours autant si ce n'est + que quand je vous est découvert il y a bien longtemps, dans une autre vie, dans ma vie de maintenant vous êtes l'orage et en même temps le calme quand l'orage est fini, avec cette air chargé d'un ''je ne sais quoi'' électrique qui m'envoie tellement d'ondes de mélancolie joyeuse et me donne l'énergie pulsative de croire en mes rêves 😎 merci d'avoir existé pour mon plus grand bonheur et celui de tout ceux qui vous 💛💚💜
Mon poto Ludo, je ne sais ce kill y a aprés, mais ce que j'espère! si un ''haut dela'' existe, c'est que Ian Curtis est venu te chercher et que vous vous enfilés de 8.6 assis sur le bords d'une galaxie, en vous foutant de la connerie humaine, je t'aime mon Ludo, ton passage sur cette terre à été trop rapide à mon goût, tu été mon seul vrai poto, tu me manque énormément :( j'espère que tu viendra aussi me chercher avec quelques chopes de brune ou rousse, on ira se prendre des pintes au Valhalla dans des orgies d'alcool, de drogue et de sexe, même si cela, hélas, ne doit pas exister 😱 on oubliera pas d'aller voir Lemmy qui doit avoir une bonne descente aussi, une existante lymbatique sans tout ses abrutis terrien serai sympa / Rest in Anarchy / Ludo mon pote, mon frangin, mon copain, mon poto ...on devait faire tellement de choses encore, t'est parti trop vite, les faire sans toi n'a plus d'importance, t'aurai du m'en parlai, cette cabane dans les montagnes des alpes ne nous verra jamais, on aurai eu la belle vie la bas ...la croisée des chemins aurait peut être eu la bonté de nous y emmener ensemble par un hiver trop froid. Tu me manque tout les jours que créé cet univers, le plus accaparent de tout mes fantomes, tu vis toujours dans un coin de mon cerveau / mon poto à la vida à la muerté 💜💀💛✖💚👻
Recién a mis 27 años vine a conocer este fabuloso grupo, es justo lo que necesitaba escuchar
still one of their best songs, simply epic
Geiler Typ und Künstler 👍🤘...viel zu früh von uns gegangen. Seine Musik bleibt.
Habe 1987 new order in Düsseldorf gesehen....peter Hook stand vor mir die ganze Zeit....gruss
The best band in the world, Rip Ian.
One of the greatest songs ever. Still love JD to this day, and New Order of course :) RIP Ian, Sadly missed
fack NO....fuck.......
Trop jeune pour mourir IAN CURTIS, le chanteur......il laissera toujours un beau souvenir......
😢😢😢😢
Such a brilliant song. An all time favorite. Echo like vocals, great lyric, that moody sound these guys mastered ... the vocals are soooo good. An amazing talent was Curtis ..just brilliant
Rock music has seen its greatest evolution with Joy Division.
Everything about this song and video hits deep. amazing 🤘🏻😭
Une pépite musicale qu'on oublie jamais, qui ne prendra jamais une ride.. Une musique faite pour être éternelle
Просто,думается, раннее взросление, раннее творческое начало.... И раннее разочарование в окружающей действительности. К тому же, Кертис признавался, что устал бороться с болезнью...
This was a brilliant film about the troubled life of genius Ian Curtis, still my number 1 band
'Fucking genius actually' - yes 100% agree
Bellissima canzone che esprime il.suo.dolore del vivere con.la malattia...morto giovanissimo...grandi canzoni eterne....
It is my favourite song. I have loved this band for 30 years.
Same
My soul becomes strangely heavy for unknown reasons every time I see, hear their music. The feeling is the one that I have never felt. Different from every other feeling but more unique and deep. I feel like I knew him far before I have born.
This was a picture of the U.K. at its very best. We can’t comprehend how good we was back then. Sid said a few years before we had this track that we had no future. He was bang on the money.
So long as we keep listening to this he’s not gone, merely dead, but still with us, like all of our heroes.
Best song ever. With love Ian.
My coworker and I would underwrite loans next to each other, listening to joy division and talk about how this band saved our lives as teenagers and we were 20 years in age apart.
The darkest sound of bass guitar that I've ever heard, the best song of JD and one of the best ever!
ATMOSPHERE its master piece!!!!
Melhor musica do Joy Division...melhor filme que já vi ...melhor banda de Rock ...tudo isso na minha simples opinião..
❤
Still gives me goosebumps. I seem to remember John Peel noting that there was huge number of votes from Poland for New Dawn Fades for that year's Festive 50 - 1980 from memory. This track is a close second to Atmosphere, for which my first listening was also a Festive 50 countdown. I was only 14 years old at the time so those moments of clarity have lasted a lifetime.
In 1982 he did an additional "all time" festive 50. I still have the tapes I recorded off the radio. Boosebumps galore.
A helpful online list reveals that JD feature 10 times in the all time festive 50 (NO x2)
Jeez that's my story too...same age too! Bought all their vinyl from HMV Liverpool when the independent charts were separate. Used all my paper round money. I used to take the records in to school for the teachers to tape.
Such a beautiful song!
@@tubthump I have so many great memories of hearing incredible bands including Joy Division, late at night on the Peel Show. Along with Alan Freeman's rock show on a Saturday afternoon, these were the only two I listened to. I also have old tapes of the Festive 50. A little worn now, but still an absolute joy to listen to them today 😊 I have also managed to find digital versions of many of the Peel Sessions that have been uploaded on YT down the years. The talent of those times just leaps at you from the speakers and smacks you in the ears.
that fucking ending where it just deconstructs itself reminds me of either something being lowered into a chasm, or taking off for space
it's the last breath ... and it is genius songwriting
Love! Ty. Love Ian Curtis loved the movie Control and love Joy Division. RIP Ian gone but never forgotten
How Ian poured his whole self in the delivery of the lines...great lyrics and the driving of that bass and the drums being led as opposed to leading...so refreshing and unique...a lot of bands were influenced by Joy Division...like the whole goth scene. The drums either resembled the cadence of steady rain or a dying person's heart..so beautiful and sad their songs were...i was deeply moved by their work.
Always sends a shiver down my spine
same here
Is there anybody who doesn't feel it?
The Gods, jealous of their dearest sons, won't permit their presence among us for long. They are always called earlier than wished by our hearts
That’s a very beautiful verse and well sat for his life and true just perfect 🎸🤘😘✝️💓🤘🎸