The World's Most Dangerous Motorcycle Gets an Important Upgrade!
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- Go to xometry.com/grindhard and use our code GRIND50 for $50 off your order of $250 or more from today through 4/24/24! We are building a monster truck chopper and this week we shave the tires to get the bike to steer and a custom fender. Now is the monster chopper safe?
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Tip of that rear fender is going to flex on the first good bump and catch on a tire lug
The fender is too close to the tire . A rock in between & its gonna tear that fender up .
Honestly though this is more of a functional art project than something that someone is going to use with any regularity.
Yep, there’s a reason why motocross bikes have like a foot between the wheel and the fender.
@@voodoorazikI would totally daily it. Would need room for tire studs though as winters are long where I am. Need like 3/8" clearance minimum. Heat up a set of tunnel protectors to line the fender with too.
@@davestevens4263 that was my first thought as well. Big lugs grab big rocks.
Glad it’s morphed from monster chopper to “ world’s most dangerous motorcycle “ responsible 👍
😂😅
gotta hit the algorithm somehow
Stfu lol why is this a place for you
*PROGRESS*
Choppers are usually just a more dangerous motorcycle anyhow this one probably takes the cake for sure. But I thought monster chopper suited it well
Hey buddy!!😁. If you place a motorcycle chain ( upright ,not on its side ) between the tyre and the fender, you'll have the perfect gap and bracket possitioning. Cheers pal!!
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Yeah when he made the fender mounts i went oh no he has no gap between the tire. I also would have atleast over inflated the tire to make some space. But yeah i used the chain method when i built my rear fender.
Old school chopper building tip right there! 👌
Or a piece of hose! That way you can choose different thicknesses too.
I can't stand why so many people just want a build done immediately. Why they complain about too many videos. Why there are too many projects. Why doesn't it run... On and on- I see it on all the channels i love lately. It all takes time and it's awesome seeing people figure it out. I appreciate all of the effort and content ! Y'all are killing it! Keep it up!
GHPC has grown like mad lately and the comments have gotten way more negative and toxic. The boys are actually building cool stuff and cool stuff takes a while.
@@JohnStevens-iq3mpI've heard other TH-camrs say that the more popular you get the more negative comments you get. AKA Trolls.
I agree, when it is done it is going to be sad because there will be no more. The journey to get there is what is interesting. But the fuck boys these days has never done anything on their own and has so short attention span so they just want bam bam bam
@@JohnStevens-iq3mpit’s just that they put out other videos in between this project. A lot of people came here just for this
It's the slow walking for me.. with all the teasers about exciting upgrades that didn't end up happening until 4-5 months down the road..
Some of the content is definitely interesting, but
watching guys build a big motorcycle can only be hyped so much, and when it's watered down with scenes that should have been cut, it just becomes a bit boring.
Looking at the fender I kept waiting for Paul Sr to come in and yell at you.
🤣🤣
Paul who? LOL Can't stand that jerk!
lol. If OCC made this copper, they'd sell it for $5m.
It's gonna need a front splash guard, it's coming out nice 👍
😂 same! That was the most annoying thing about occ. The constant beeping from then swearing and fighting all the time.
This is the type of fabrication we all fell in love with back in the day! Fail till its perfect and have fun along the way! I love GHPC videos sooo much! Wish i could find some buddy's like this in Metro Detroit!!!
I like that “fail till its perfect” 👍
An old school fender spacing trick was to use a 1/2" or 1" rubber Hose between the fender and the tire. This gave the fender some clearance for when the wheel expands while riding the bike and keeps the fender from rubbing the wheel.
I would not want any flex in a fender as well as that will allow it to get caught up in or rub the tire and cause possible catastrophic issues for the bike or rider.
Love the bike by the way!
no doubt, the zero clearance fender doesn't account for dynamic forces.
Yeah I don't get it, seems like there is zero clearance @@Syritis
Lay a couple pieces of old motorcycle or bicycle chain on the tire when you set your fender.
Weld it in place then pull the chain out. Lot of guys use this method to get a good fender clearance on chopper builds.
Since the chopper will vibrate quite significantly I definetively think you need to bend up the tip of the fender so it does not vibrate down into the wheel and catch on one of the nubs on the tire and get destroyed. Match the bend with the same shape/angle as the seat so they will match.
And also, a wheel will expand when rotating. Idk how fast you are planning to go with that thing but with a fender that snug it will definetively rub on the wheel while riding.
@@DezeoThe wheel will not expand significantly.
@@joelspaulding5964Depends on speed but I guess we will see :)
And yet behold he here has built some protection from his back wheel shredding his back into a million pieces like I predicted!!!
He could add a brace coming up from the swing arm. Or add some sort of framing under the fender to make it more ridged.
Don't forget to put rubber washers on the fuel tank mounts for vibration
That rear fender, with the edges cut out, is going to allow the tire to throw dirt all over the rider. The tire is going to need to be covered edge to edge all the way to 1 o’clock or so. Maybe more.
Was about to write the exact same thing. Nasa dealt with the same issue in the design of the Lunar rover fenders as had every trail bike motorcycle company since ...ever.
Interesting. Gyroscopic effect is not primarily what keeps bikes upright, it’s gravity steering. Forks are designed so that if you lean a bike it steers into the lean, which is self righting. I look forward to updates about handling, I assume it will be very bad.
I thought the same thing back when they were trying to figure out the steering details. Not a word about rake, trail, or offset.
This is a work of art that will be a nightmare to ride.
We need a dope poster of all those CAD designed parts laid out.. That'd be super sick. For the nerds 🙌 Class work as always boys!
Once you get the bike running you could lift up the back tire and while its spinning use the angle grinder to get a consistent rounding on all those nubs. (And temporarily mount the front tire on the back end and do the same) Probably would improve tire balance and reduce the vibes on smoother roads.
I have read about people doing just this with large off road tires like these to fix balancing issues.
balancing will not be so important. These huge tires will never rotate fast ;-)
Back in the 70's in metal class we made funnels. When we folded over the sheet metal we placed mig welding wire in the crease. This helped add stiffness and gave a more rounded edge.
I hate to say it.. but why on earth didn't you just leave like 2-3 inches between the fender and the tire? Unless you want it to work like a mud scraper (a la farm implements), I just don't get it.
I think it’s all just for looks more than functionality
@@matt3x37 dude, if not for the fender the driver faces the risk of literally getting sucked in by the wheel and killed, but your right, it’s probably just for looks
Lmao acid i was about to say the exact same thing
But im shure the fender will get damaged at some point and they will design another with some space between the tire, its just a sad thought
geeeee I wonder if they could fix it if it doesn't work well???🤔
It’s called a chopper for a reason
this whole video makes me think of growing up watching monster garage. and watching jesse james build fenders and gas tanks from scratch .
But they worked.....lol
Monster.... monster garage. Monster..... monster garage.
Great. Now THATS stuck in my head.
Wow I was thinking about the exact thing 100%😂
to this day I involuntarily hear, " zip, zero, nada" anytime anyone says free or freebee lol
literally every project I come up with is half way between a hoonigan sema build and a monster garage build lol
That back tire is going to need more gap from the fender. Any little bit of dirt, rock, or snow could easily get jammed between the tire and the fender. Orange County Choppers used to put sections of tubing across the tire then place the fender on top to keep the same amount of gap and help judge proper fender mounting.
This is an underrated comment. All the fender work was wasted 😂 It's going to need to sit at least an inch above the tallest part of the tread, the diameter is different at that point, so the brackets and fender are ALL sized incorrectly.
"It's only one burnout away from being perfect" made me laugh because...the hell it is! I get he may not intend to ride it through thick mud, but it's currently not set up for anything but pavement. No gravel or dirt roads.
I wouldn't use OCC as an example of how to do anything. 😂
That is really coming together nicely. It is amazing how much time gets soaked up in the little details, but that is what makes a really special build in the end.
The foot rests! Make them LONG. Will give you more leverage to balance!
2 uploads in one week premium
It was kinda refreshing to spend a day just with Ethan.
Love the whole crew tho!
When you are done with this build I would love to see you guys make a bike that is a rideable and road worthy something like a Triumph Bonneville bobber style but with your unique touches and styles. Because the monster chopper as been one of the best builds and I would love to see more like it
You guys need to get a ventilation system in that shop. Breathing in cancer
Lmao city boy, I’ve never been in a home shop with ventilation. Quit being such a puss.
Nice work !
I love the looks of that fender.
I hope it's not mounted too close to your rear tire, though. It reminds me of a chopper build off where someone's rear fender was so close to his tire, that when he got up to speed on the highway the tire expansion made it rub on the fender.
Running through any mud should result in the fender slicing it off and hurling it onto your back.
Thanks for sharing your great work !
27:25 "once these wheels are moving at a decent RPM will be a giant gyroscope that does not want to lean so will hold itself up".
Once the wheels are spinning at a significant RPM, they'll want to maintain their current position, regardless of what that position is. This implies that if the bike is already leaning, it will continue to maintain that lean rather than auto-correcting itself to an upright position. The notion of 'uprightness' isn't a factor for it.
Bikes doesn't automatically correct its lean due to the gyroscope effect. The primary reason bikes can auto-correct and maintain balance is due to the geometry of the steering system, specifically the trail.
If this bike has minimal trail, it will not auto-correct effectively. Similarly, if the steering system lacks responsiveness to these auto-corrections, the bike won't maintain balance as expected.
I’m enjoying watching your journey into sheet metal work . I was a steel worker/fabricator for many years but never had the chance to do sheet work . At school we made ashtrays but would love to just go in a workshop and get to play with an English wheel and all the other tools for a few weeks.
Loving this entire build 👍
When working with sheet metal steel or aluminum make sure you aneal the sheets after working it, you may have to aneal it several times. Some of the problems you had with the fender would have been alot easier. You can heat it in one of 2 ways, the best way is to soot the panel with an acetylene rich flame and the adjust to a neutral flame and burn the soot off and allow to air cool. The other option is to use propane and heat the panel as hot as yo7 can and then let them to air cool
damn thats good advice, this woukd work on a fender before extreme fender pulling too right? just burn the paint off clean and let it cool?
clairfying, like a car fender, like just pull the fender off and take the paint off with a torch, then use real metal working tools to roll&pull it, then clean prime and paint it back?
@KaosProject21 he was building the piece from scratch, before you start shaping it needs to be annealed because the piece will work harden. On large panels you may need to annealed multiple times. On any pre-formed panels like a fender if you add alot of heat it will warp because stamped parts have internal stresses (they have been forced to shape) and adding heat will release the stress causing warping
That thing is epic. Just remember the tyre expands when speed increases so u need more clearance to the fender.
Thank you for getting back to the normal content.
Ahhh thank you. I am so glad there is a fender now. Much more safe, congrats yall. Its a sick build.
There's little more humbling and satisfying than watching a skilled man in his element, doing his thing, while imparting a wealth of knowledge, in a thoroughly entertaining fashion. 😉👍
PS. That rear fender brace looks like a knuckle duster for a centipede! 😂
YEEEEEWWWWWWWWWWWWW!!!!!!!!!!!!! Ethan is my hero. Been a fan for years now and so look forward to the Friday posts. Dudes just out there livin the coolest self-made life.
Monster chopper is easily my favorite series on this channel
Ethans problem solving skills, attention to detail and patience in execution, is so pleasing and never ceases to amaze. "I'll get back to you when I have a solution." Says it all. As always, great camera work and editing ! As Always, May God Bless you and yours! 😇
Dude it would be a travesty to paint that. I like the rusty frame and clean bare metal tins!
you can't have the rust eating the metal... needs a clean sandblasting, and then ''fake'' rust [patina] and clear coating... Mad Max Style!
@@user-McGiver As soon as you seal off any additional oxygen corrosion stops. Fake rust is still real corrosion.
Just hit it with a grey Scotch Brite or something similarly very fine and clear it with matte.
Vice Grip Garage sells the perfect stuff, adds a nice clear coat without ruining the "Patina".
If they took the rust off that thing and shined it up a bit, it could literally go in an art museum
Duddee fair play this project is AWESOME! I found your channel through this project, and have since binge watched everything, but I love you general video style, like it's a longer wait but you get an hour where there is actually a load of progress, rather than daily videos with next to no progress! Keep it premium brothers!
One rock stuck between them lugs and that beautiful fender is toast.
Great camera-work on this one, Steven! And those timelapses of the fog look soo good!
On the rear fender bracing…lay out the edges, then drill small like 1/8” holes like every couple of inches. Then rosette weld from the back side. No visible welds and the small rosettes will draw the metal the same direction as the curved surface.
The fact that you have created this from scratch is insanely impressive to me. Just about anyone can bolt parts onto a car/bike/etc, but few possess this level of skill and patience. The fact that you sit and study and ponder every piece just confirms that. Can not wait to see this thing finished !
These projects are more art than vehicle. It's amazing how well they all work, but that doesn't change the fact that it's an artists work.
With all the work you put into your projects you really should build a garage to store them and keep them out of the weather. It could double as the Grind Hard Museum.
Why didn't you do hexagons for the fender mount brackets?
I’m loving how the rust is looking as a paint job. When you paint this, have the colour combination of bronze/brass and silver those 2 together look awesome
Next episode “Will It Run?” Can’t wait. Hope it is controllable. The extreme downhill and trailering on the mini truck were very entertaining.
Hexagons are Bestagons!
I love the dog opinions
9:00 Ethan's smile already made my week
I love this guy. His energy. His brilliance. His creative flow. It just motivates me to do better.
Cool stuff . Thanks for the update .
man! to me this bike and the 2jz tractor and mini jet boat are probably my very favourite builds from you guys! love everything else too of course! that 2jz because you put it in a garden tractor 😂👌 and that bike because you really surpassed the quality and amount of work you put in everything else in your builds! this thing is gonna be awesome!
Been fun to watch Ethan get better at metal work over the years. Dude, killing it. Keep it up.
I see that bike in the next Mad Max movie...
Wowzers, that is one gnarly beast. I LOVE it! Are test drives available?
great work as usual - agree with other comments about needing clearance between the tire and fender for tire growth, vibration and debris. Rule of thumb is 3/8" for a tight fender, but I would go bigger on this beast...
I mean I like to watch the Swindle Bros swindling their projects too.... but it's these big projects making me sit down with my Saturday morning coffee to watch in its entirety. Seeing Ethan develop his skills over the years.. these metal shaping is sweet!
Can't wait for returning to the fire engine, and maybe building a chopper with Stephen at some point.
Please make a video using a chainsaw engine and a diy go kart frame
We really should!
If you look 3 years back, Ethan used an electric chainsaw to power a pocket bike.
I have a low hour 49cc chainsaw engine to donate
@@GrindHardPlumbingCotry it on a razor ground force drifter! Or electric/has hybrid gokart of some sort
@@GrindHardPlumbingCohell yeah. Something we could all make. Ish😂
Woah, I dig the Ethan voiceover at the beginning!
We should do it more often!
Definitely! Also pls leave it raw! I just cant imagine the chopper looking nearly as cool when painted :)
@@mistermistero652100% agree! Let that patina get jussssst right and then clear it!
Also how they added in his voice yelling "april 24th" at the end of the xometry ad
Yeah he sounds different when he's not shouting excitedly.
I love how you say every new bit is your best new bit ever made lol gotta love your own workmanship that's pride
New shop makes room for new tools. New tools mean new skills. New skills mean better builds. Better builds mean more views. I think Ethan has it figured out.
Also, the video itself is great. It's full of interesting shots and the quality is high, but it still feels like you are almost in the shot with Ethan, and the videos come across as very authentic and not overproduced.
You guys are killing it all around.
Ethan had it all figured out long before the new shop came along. his ability to work with lesser, and old obsolete tools, and equipment. makes him even better at what he does. anyone can work with the newest handy dandy top of the line tools and equipment that is much easier? try to work old obsolete tools and equipment and turn out quality work? now that takes skill.
(example) Ethan built Colonel Senders in the old shop before they got the tools they have now. and it's no doubt the best build that GHPC has turned out. when it was finished and it still is. at least up until this build. and we still don't know for sure how this build is going to turn out? the only draw back is it took almost seventy videos to build Colonel Senders.
look forward to seeing the finished article. looking good so far.
Make a framed blue print of all the cad for the project and sell it on your store. Gringhard at the bottom. Bike side view at the top and cad in the middle. Would be clean for a tshirt or poster
The videography is excellent and i love the long videos where parts of the project and started and finished in one video.
Such a nice change from most channels where its just numerous unconclusive videos
9:30 it’s probably just me but I really feel like it would looks so cool with like another piece of metal between the fender and and seat and make it look like knight armor like how it overlaps almost if that makes sense
Maybe even make it’s like a hole for air flow like close that gap in between seat and fender so air that under the bike will get pushed up through it over the back tire again if that make sense
I think it would be really cool if you made the mudguards out of aluminum tube to continue the tube chassis aesthetic, then used like a plexiglass shield. Kinda like a TVR Sagaris spoiler
Oh my gosh! I’m soo glad to see a fender on the rear! I have been writing you about it!!
This is the grind hard that I started watching this channel for. It's great when loose scews Willie isn't running his mouth.
Man I really have been enjoying this project so so much. This video was one of my favs so far.
Extremely satisfaying to watch this project come together! Keep up the good work!
Oh and you are brilliant! I really enjoy watching the design & fabrication! Thank you very much for the great content.
Your talent for fabrication is truly exceptional! Watching your skill and creativity in transforming ideas into reality is inspiring. Keep up the amazing work💪
Plenty of people may disagree with me here, but I feel Ethan sent Edwin and Will to Florida on their own so he had time, and peace and quiet to focus on his own creativeness, without the distractions!
I've loved seeing Will's build skills improve dramatically since he came on the scene, though I honestly loved this video, just watching Ethan work, with some really small side commentary. Some beautiful camera work, with it nearly all being fab/project related. Sometimes there just ends up being too many random aerial/random shots and side stories thrown in, that some vids feel like they're being fluffed out.
Obviously, I'll still catch all of the videos, but this felt wayyyy more back to the original GHPC stuff that I fell in love with! (Don't take this the wrong way, you're one of three channels that I regularly stop to watch, everyone else can wait till I have a moment :P )
But I definitely felt the peace and quiet in the workshop with Ethan getting to do his best work. Maybe I just feel I'm too similar to will, Impatient, wanting to rush things, giving it a full send, and farrrrrr too easily distracted by conversations and other things around me... Ha ha ha!
Great work by the whole team, even when the whole video is nearly entirely one man talking to the camera, I know at a minimum one of you is still hiding largely uncredited behind a camera, and Edwin does epic work editting everything into great vids!
But in summary, I LOVED this one, please Mr Editor Edwin, more like this from Ethan where he really gets into explaining and showing what he's doing!
Long format videos are awesome! Chopper fenders usually are laid on the tire with some thin tubing underneath to gap them consistently around the tire circumference. Just a thought. Looks good!
I love the beginning when you were cutting the tires and had the time laps going because you were all over the place doing work, but in the background you could see the dog laying there and they didn't move a single inch the entire time!! Gotta love the fur friends!!
Watching 52 minutes of Papa Ethan fabricating is so satisfying.
I'm 73 and my grandfather had a tire shop in Nebraska, around here are some of the retreating tools that my Dad use to use. People use to use everything for every drop they could.
When you said "fender mark 3" I immediately thought about Iron Man when he build his suit...maybe some food for thought? lol
A final piece count CAD image would make a good shirt design. Great progress!!
This needs to be in a *Mad Max* movie. To see this ripping along at 60 Mph is going to be awesome.
Смотрю вас ребят и не нарадуюсь. Как же вы скурпулезно делаете каждую мелочь. Снимаю перед вами шляпу. Молодцы!!!
When you said you needed to figure out a fender mount I thought I'd make a fin up the fender and have graduated size holes to correspond with the holes in the gas tank. On the rest of the fender though I figured as large as it was the folded seam wasn't going to be rigid enough. I though 1/4" round stock would be more ridged . Also thought about using a concrete grinding wheel to remove the rubber, never tried that though. Continue on, great build videos.
I love seeing how much you stop to love on you're dogs.....my garage wouldn't be the same without my pupperz
best part about there videos is looking for future projects in the background
Great work! You do need a fair bit more space on that rear mudguard, you need to think about the tyre expanding through heat and gyroscopic force, also any dirt or stones that get trapped between them. Keep at it 👌
Thanks for putting a fender on! I can now watch again!
Layered scales for the fender!!
For a second in the video you had them overlapping and I thought, oh that looks amazing.
The videography is just getting better and better! That new tripod is coming clutch! I thought I needed it until I saw the price. 😮 now it’s a bucket list tripod
The most happy time I ever spent on this planet is the time I spend watching your videos ❤❤
this is going to become a historical build that will be known in the history of motorcycles
I don't know If I would have been brave enough to design such a close fitting fender to a hand carved tire, but you guys seem to know what your doing. Good luck with it and great work so far!
I really appreciate your videos, truly appreciate the drive. The way you put all the cuts down in one file for the chopper makes me think you could sell these designs for people like me. I’d buy a blueprint.
That things gonna be awesome! I can't wait to see it ridden.
You guys are killin it. Great video great music. Can't wait for this thing to be movin
Thank you for adding a fender. It was the first thing i commented on a while ago about this bike
Excellent job on the fender. You are one hell of a fabricator. Love your videos.
Everything you guys make is amazing I’m always thrilled to see what you guys will come up with, and the swindle builds are my favorite
Ash much as the build is note worthy, I'm dieing to actually see a proper test ride of this beast
The closer you get to finishing this thing the more I like the idea of just clearcoating it!!
You took your time to do everything right and then add in the craftsmanship, it looks good enough to be clear coated, If you know what I mean!!
I like the rust too but maybe not as much as a frame has on it right now, take a little off and and a couple good coats of clear coat!!! = Mad Max vibe !!! I think it would look sick and the nice thing about clearcoating is if you don’t like it, you can always paint it . For paint I would do a solid black and black