Fun fact: I posted my last JW video on Memorial (JW Passover) by pure coincidence, and not intentionally, as hilariously timed as it was 😂 This is that video: th-cam.com/video/qvH1vCRQSX4/w-d-xo.html If you'd like to contribute and help support me and the content, feel free to pop over to my Patreon :) If not, no problem at all! → patreon.com/dannygrogg
@@dennmmmy Don't you talk about their favorite face Stephen Lett like that ever again! hahaha. Being spoken to like they're all four year olds is all they have left to enjoy!!!
I went back during a really sad low point in my life. The GB put me off in a big way. When I was a kid they were just some omniscient entity in New York. You never saw or heard them. I feel like the organization was somehow more legit then.
@@spergnation1859 It was never legit. Not seeing the “man behind the curtain” just masked the organization more and gave more of an appearance of legitimacy. Hope you have been able to work through your low point and be successful in getting to where you need to be.
I predicted 7 years ago that Watchtower would last another 20 to 25 years. My prediction was they wouldn't be completely gone but they would have sold off all of their assets (halls and assembly halls) and go to straight online asking for tithes and getting rid of all the rules. A shell of their former selves. So far im looking like a psychic. Now if only my abilities would translate to the lottery.
Haha, I know the feeling! Me and my mom both have had the same "it's going to happen this way, watch" for almost 20 years now. And much like yourself, we're spot on even after that long. But DAMN IF IT AIN'T GOING TO WORK WITH THE LOTTERY! haha
JWs will do what Rutherford did in the early days of WT: they'll re-brand and start another religion. "Jehovah's Witnesses" will remain the Fundamentalist religion that adheres to the 'original', conservative doctrines, and the re-branded religion will move in a new direction, with a new name- no different than when WT split from IBSA.
Haha, thanks. I'll actually have a new JW video out tomorrow at 9:45am PT if you're interesting at all. That said, I've already been accused of being a "False Prophet" haha. Someone's ambitious!
Apostate greetings from the Netherlands 🇳🇱 😊 Team Sparlock now officially has joined the apostate army! (Please watch Arjen Lubach,who on his very popular Dutch tv show exposed the JWs big time)
1918: The book is published by the WBTS "Millions now living will never die!" 106 years later.... where do you think those people are today? Perhaps they are hanging out with the "generation" of 1914 that, acording to Jesus would "by no means pass away". What do you think?
Probably in the secret Disney Vault somewhere, deep below the main one where they cryogenically freeze their child stars. Disney's version of the Vatican Vaults.
Generation 1918 were all transformed to become superheroes like Superman, Batman, lady Gaga, Super zombie, etc., etc. Have you seen them floating in the air??
the core element will remain. this is all they know. to some degree there will be new members. it should be noted that religion, as well as social institutions, supply a need, a hope, a purpose, a commonality. even if fractured, the reasons for such groups existing, these will stay the same. agreed that the writing is on the wall for this religion, as it exists today. it will fall into the abyss of history where so many others have gone before.
Double think: "My Father directs my life. However, I have never been inspired by his direction. Therefore, I am not inspired by my Father as he directs me. My Father never makes mistakes but I often have to change what he directs me to do because it was wrong after all, I am not inspired."
I'd like to see an ordinary rank and file JW follower use that same B.S. as an excuse once they're hauled into the back room for a judicial committee meeting. That ought to go over real well. 😊😂😊
No. I think you have this wrong. The elders were basically waiting for more guidelines from the society. You know what some elders are like. They want to know exactly what kind of slacks can be worn etc.
Some of them. Some others couldn't give a fuck, being "strict" while in JW mode, but the moment they get home or are not being a JW, they watch R rated movies with their family and friends, listen to so much heavy profanity and negative topic music, use profanity, play M rated/PEGI 18+ games, etc. And then of course, you have the elders who defy the norm, and actually care more about the people than the rules and strict adherence. The majority are definition the prior three haha.
What is more probable? That Jesus returned (invisibly) in 1914 but his promis that the generation at that time "would by no means pass away" before Armageddon (failed prophesy) Or... Jesus did not "return" in 1914 (like he didnt return in 1874) and by extension he didn't "inspect his household" therefore he didn't select his "faithful and discrete slave (class) which means he didn't appoint the WBTS over "all his belongings (Christians)? What is more probable?
Let me just add that using *a parable* does not equal *a prophecy that they were chosen by god to be his Representatives in 1919.* All of that was *made up by the Pseudo Judge Rutherford.*
Sorry, in this video you kinda remind me of Dr Evil (that Mike Myers character) 😆 the content is great nevertheless, just dont bring in a mini-me or place your pinky too close to your mouth 😆
🤬 *#$%*!#? - LOVE IT!* The profanity that is. Getting upset by "foul" language when A LOT of Ex JWs & current ones have problems with drinking (alcoholism), watching films of an adult nature (P ☢️. R:. N) or were the sort of "christians" who were repeat offenders when it pertained to adultery....... BUT!! How dare you use unsavory language! That's hysterical! 😆 🤣 *F* *C* *U* *K* That 💩 ! Off! It! 😊🙂😃 Enjoy! Side note: Foul language will probably be left up to a matter of conscience................ Cause, ya know..................... "New light" 💡 😇 🙏
Didn't lose themselves of being a religion they just lost the 501c. They can still be a religion and do what they've been doing. They're just not getting money from the government.
You do know about the 501c3, right, the only way to get tax free money is a religious organization, so I personally disagree with the fact they are no longer going to be a religion, it's always about the money, but I do hope you're right about they are finished. Good discussion though.
501c3's are not just religions though. That said, when I was talking about losing their religious status and their charity status/funding from the government, I was specifically referring to Norway, which I said when mentioning it, who doesn't have 501c3 because that's a US thing. And I certainly agree they'll try to do anything they can to get that funding from their government back, which is actually why they're trying to shift their shunning rules around. They only started that after the Norway ruling. I definitely hope I'm right, and now that 3 months has passed, I'm more confident now they''re on their deathbed, and they now it, too. Thank you for taking the time to listen and comment, I greatly appreciate it! All the best to you!
CT Russell didn't feel it was necessary for his IBSA group to identify themselves with an official religious name : "We are in fellowship with all Christians in whom we can recognize the Bible as the only standard. We do not require, therefore, that all shall see just as we do in order to be called Christians, realising that growth in both grace and knowledge is a gradual process." Watchtower 1882 Apr reprints p.344
Hmmm., Hello, Mr. Violin ! I have a question for you, oh first let me tell you I’m a worldly demon😝 a member of Christadom . O.k., the question who is this guy called Jehovah ? and why does anyone want to be one of his witnesses ? Hmmm., I suppose you guys are much closer to Judaism than Christianity, why ? I go to church and we follow Jesus.😜
The governing body of Jehovah's Witnesses is actively moving to make themselves far more mainstream christian, which is all but guaranteed why they're going to rebrand and remove their long-standing name completely. JWs are not Trinitarian at all, so they don't believe in "the father, son and the holy ghost" trope. They originally as a religion were trying to be a Judaeo-Christian hybrid, thus why they use the anglicized version of Yahweh/Jahweh, Jehovah. Yahovah is another way Yahweh is said. And for context, I am not a JW, as I mentioned in this video in fact. I am a Agnostic Atheist that was born into a JW family, and left at 15. And we're all "worldly people influenced by satan and his demons" here haha
@@TheCriminalViolin actually they are trinitarian just not Christian trinitarian.... Now hear me out it's the perfect video for you. The word Jehovah is pretty much interchangeable. You have Jehovah God the father. Now you will also hear when you do something wrong or speak ill of the org you are hurting Jehovah/ hurting Jehovah's reputation. Well if a Catholic priest does something with an altar boy did he harm God's reputation or the Catholic church? So Jehovah is also the organization. Jesus died for our sins, but in order to get the benefit you have to be a practicing witness and be devoted to the org. So the organization has the roll of the son. Now for the holy Spirit/ God's active force that gives us knowledge and strength when we need it. So who provides that knowledge at the right time? The faithful and discreet slave ie the governing body. So you have Jehovah God who is not Jehovah the organization and not Jehovah the governing body. All 3 are Jehovah but all 3 are not the same. Case and point the baptism questions. Baptized in the name of the father, son, and org.
@@TheCriminalViolin It depends how you view religion-to me it was the first politics/political party's. There used to be hundreds of Gods and priests got very powerful attracting people to their God.I think it was Rameses who said "No, there is one God and he gives power to me" thus scuppering the priests power (and hence "The divine right of rulers" that persisted into the 20th century with Tsars etc) This was taken up by the Jews (note how the Torah/Bible's first five books all show God hating his previous Egyptian chums in favour of the Israelites) and all Christianity AND Islam are is breakaway sects of Judaism-the breakaway being to gain political power/control-they both use the OT/Torah-ie Genesis Exodus Leviticus Deuteronomy numbers and bend them to show how their breakaway sect is Gods chosen (note how the Jews enrage and lose God in the power usurping books of the NT and koran!!) And of course within ALL the sects-Judaism Christian Islam there are hundreds of sub sects all vying for power and money-one of these being the JW's. All religions are nonsense today-vital in establishing society and politics 5000 years ago-but hopelessly out of date. I loved "The Satanic Verses"-basically one theme is if-as all the Mullahs and muslims say-the koran says you can murder infidels/subjugate women and do all sorts of evil,then Mohammad was fooled. He never spoke to Gabriel to get Gods words for the Koran,he spoke to the devil disguised as Gabriel who got all satans evil put into his book .(The same applies to any religion-dont KKK "Christians" say the Bible-ie God- wants Blacks and Jews killed and Gays murdered........ There may well be a God,but it DEFINITELY isn't one we've invented to date or in the future or ever will be.
This video is all conjecture. Watchtower is making adjustments that all business do to survive. Yes, its numbers are not great as they were two decades ago, but all businesses have hard time and Watchtower is making necessary steps to maintain relevance. I compare the process to IBM. IBM saw it was looking relevance, so made painful business decision. It is not as large as it once was but is still in business.
Yet again this technically agrees with one of my main points through this video and my inital one - The fact that they're 100% corporate (business) pretending to be a non-profit religion.
@@TheCriminalViolin You skipped my main point. It is comical to see some exJWs get erotic-like pleasure hearing it is collapsing and then cognitive dissonance kicks in when people say it is doing okay and shows sign of long-term survival. What is happening today is a gift compared to the three worse times of Rutherford and yet it survived. Watchtower is a Networking marketing business structured as a non-profit. The way it works makes it obvious to anyone that understands money and business. I would not say it is a corporate business as it does not work like one sufficiently to qualify. A group should never be identified with its words, but rather its action/behavior.
@@b1crusade384 Erotic-like pleasure? Who says I get pleasure from it? The use of exaggerated terms also is just a tool to attempt to gather a rise out of someone/start a argument.
@@TheCriminalViolin Not arguing. I am pointing out a common error I consistently see with exJWs. If you refuse to acknowledge the evidence or only want comments that tickle your ears, it’s okay. We are not in Watchtower anymore where you will get disfellowshipped if you do not agree something. Let’s end this now. You do you.
@@TheCriminalViolin respond was auto-deleted. I am not trying to argue. I just pointed out a common error I see with exJWs. Watchtower will be here for another 50 years. Many exJWs will not. If you only want comments that tickles your ears, feel free to only focus on those. I think we have spoken enough about this.
LivEngT Acts 5v38,39 And this time I say keep clear of these men and let them be, because if this plan or this doing be from men it will break down, 39 but if it is from God you will not be able to break them down; you may turn out to be at war with God.🤔
@@Leftcatholicsatanchurch09 They still standing. Have been hammered for decades, even Hitler said he would exterminate them. Sorry, he was exterminated. Shall be interesting to see how it all climaxes. blessings
@@Leftcatholicsatanchurch09 Pslm 127 v 1 LivEngT 'If Jehovah is not building a house, its builders have taken useless trouble on it; If Jehovah is not guarding a city a guardsman has been uselessly vigilant. Praise Jah
Most things in reality are human things, even with how fervently many demand it is "of god" and so on. One of my go-tos is pointing out how if a god or gods exist, they would never begin to give a damn what someone is or isn't wearing, as only humans would make that a thing to begin with.
Paul speaks of the great apostasy, a rise in apostasy would come just before the day of Jehovah comes. .....to the effect that the day of Jehovah is here. Let no one seduce you in ant manner, because it (Jehovah's day) will NOT come unless the apostasy comes first and the man of lawlessness gets revealed, the son of destruction. (1Thes.2:2&3) So THANK YOU all you EX-JW'ers.......for you have set apostasy in motion and the Day of Jehovah gets closer and closer....!!!!
That day has came and gone according to Jehovah's Witnesses own preachings MANY times. in the 1800s, 1914, during World War II, in the 70s, etc. Will you continue to allow men to move those goal posts every single time it doesn't happen and continue to trust them? Apparently so. Here's what I tell ALL religious people: We will see. We'll find out eventually when we die what is true, and what is not. The day of the beginning of the end has came and gone so many times already with none of JW prophecy ever reigning true. I guess you just got to keep say "okay we got it wrong this time too, but we know it won't be wrong now" until you're proven right, huh? Or at least so you hope you will be, for some weird reason. It's funny. We're "made in Jehovah's image", it isn't supposedly our fault that we "sin", and he fully understands this, while being a forgiving, loving, understanding, kind god, yet, he simultaneously is seen as such a hateful, spiteful, vengeful, angry, controlling, vindictive, uncaring, unforgiving god if anyone dares not follow his every word and dictate, making him a contradiction and incredibly anthropomorphic (human). IF the prior is true, then how and why would he ever be willing to permanently end the lives of so many of his own children he creates in his image out of spite like that for a punishment? That by definition is the latter. Pure venegfulness, hatred, unforgiving and anger/spite out of the people not letting his rules & words control them. In fact, that is also a very human set of traits and reactions to such being the case. Perhaps that is religious humans applying their own biases against those they dislike because they refuse to "believe in the one true faith" (which every single religion and religious sect claims they are), and not at all Jehovah? Or the only other possibilities is he is in fact anthropomorphic, making him a Demigod, or both. Be he cannot be the loving, caring, understanding, compassionate, forgiving god you and most other christian religions preach where and when convenient to you. I encourage you to really let that sink in and give it some thorough thought, and see if you can even begin to find a logical defense for Jehovah being such a humanized contradiction, along with why he'd be so spiteful toward his own creations for not being implicitly obedient to his every whim.
LOL you haven't learned anything from the many failed prophecies of Armageddon 😂 I guess this is why the Watchtower corporation's shareholders will continue to earn value on their shares- because there will always be hateful spiteful people hoping to see others die on a doomsday that their masters have been promising them for 150 years. The irony is that even if the false prophets of the publishing and real estate society were right, you would be destroyed for going on apostate material 😪
If you had seen my prior video (and my first) on JWs, you'd understand why I added the rant about profanity in. If your issue is actually my use of profanity, then join the club, Corey haha. I believe I even referenced that video and all the comments complaining that I use profanity.
>Doesn't follow the rules set out by the witnesses and chooses to watch an apostate video and to engage >Declares people will continue to follow the rules set out by the witnesses such as not watching apostate videos and engaging >Somehow doesn't notice the problem Okay, buddy.
Fun fact: I posted my last JW video on Memorial (JW Passover) by pure coincidence, and not intentionally, as hilariously timed as it was 😂 This is that video: th-cam.com/video/qvH1vCRQSX4/w-d-xo.html
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IMO, the beginning of their end came when the GB started showing themselves on broadcasting.
And that's where and when it all started..we saw the 🤡 behind the curtains
@@dennmmmy Don't you talk about their favorite face Stephen Lett like that ever again! hahaha. Being spoken to like they're all four year olds is all they have left to enjoy!!!
I went back during a really sad low point in my life. The GB put me off in a big way. When I was a kid they were just some omniscient entity in New York. You never saw or heard them. I feel like the organization was somehow more legit then.
@@spergnation1859 It was never legit. Not seeing the “man behind the curtain” just masked the organization more and gave more of an appearance of legitimacy.
Hope you have been able to work through your low point and be successful in getting to where you need to be.
@@TheCriminalViolinPlease show me a proof from the Bible that this is not the beginning of the end for all different churches including exjw's.
That Ramapo fault line rattled the Watchtower World Headquarters pretty well .....25 after shocks .....God is knocking ,and they aren't listening 😂😂😂
The next change that the Governing Body will announce is that profanity will be allowed in moderation.
😂 I might have to sue for credit and compensation then as a indirect consultant
God damn!
I predicted 7 years ago that Watchtower would last another 20 to 25 years.
My prediction was they wouldn't be completely gone but they would have sold off all of their assets (halls and assembly halls) and go to straight online asking for tithes and getting rid of all the rules. A shell of their former selves.
So far im looking like a psychic. Now if only my abilities would translate to the lottery.
Haha, I know the feeling! Me and my mom both have had the same "it's going to happen this way, watch" for almost 20 years now. And much like yourself, we're spot on even after that long. But DAMN IF IT AIN'T GOING TO WORK WITH THE LOTTERY! haha
The days of this distractive Cult are numbered
JWs will do what Rutherford did in the early days of WT: they'll re-brand and start another religion. "Jehovah's Witnesses" will remain the Fundamentalist religion that adheres to the 'original', conservative doctrines, and the re-branded religion will move in a new direction, with a new name- no different than when WT split from IBSA.
As somebody who has an entire family of jw’s, I like you. You’re a good guy.
Haha, thanks. I'll actually have a new JW video out tomorrow at 9:45am PT if you're interesting at all. That said, I've already been accused of being a "False Prophet" haha. Someone's ambitious!
Watchtower's END is near. No question. WT will be finished totally by 2030.
Schisms will convert to home book studys with elders
RIP Raymond Franz please read Crisis of Conscience
First apostate who had the guts to tell the "thruth " 😊
Apostate greetings from the Netherlands 🇳🇱 😊
Team Sparlock now officially has joined the apostate army!
(Please watch Arjen Lubach,who on his very popular Dutch tv show exposed the JWs big time)
1918: The book is published by the WBTS "Millions now living will never die!" 106 years later.... where do you think those people are today?
Perhaps they are hanging out with the "generation" of 1914 that, acording to Jesus would "by no means pass away".
What do you think?
Probably in the secret Disney Vault somewhere, deep below the main one where they cryogenically freeze their child stars. Disney's version of the Vatican Vaults.
Generation 1918 were all transformed to become superheroes like Superman, Batman, lady Gaga, Super zombie, etc., etc. Have you seen them floating in the air??
@@manny2032 Oh, I thought they were waterfowl, I tagged out on them last hunting season.
the core element will remain. this is all they know. to some degree there will be new members. it should be noted that religion, as well as social institutions, supply a need, a hope, a purpose, a commonality. even if fractured, the reasons for such groups existing, these will stay the same. agreed that the writing is on the wall for this religion, as it exists today. it will fall into the abyss of history where so many others have gone before.
Watchtower is DANGEROUS 🛑
Great Job Thanks
Thank you, I appreciate it! All the best to you and your Tigers (I see that Detroit D)
I hope you are right. You make a lot of sense, that's for sure.
This is great. Elders always like to act Holy and being authority. Im gonna point out going against GB is like going against God if they say something
The days of the cult are numbered
Double think: "My Father directs my life. However, I have never been inspired by his direction. Therefore, I am not inspired by my Father as he directs me. My Father never makes mistakes but I often have to change what he directs me to do because it was wrong after all, I am not inspired."
I'd like to see an ordinary rank and file JW follower use that same B.S. as an excuse once they're hauled into the back room for a judicial committee meeting.
That ought to go over real well. 😊😂😊
No. I think you have this wrong. The elders were basically waiting for more guidelines from the society. You know what some elders are like. They want to know exactly what kind of slacks can be worn etc.
Some of them. Some others couldn't give a fuck, being "strict" while in JW mode, but the moment they get home or are not being a JW, they watch R rated movies with their family and friends, listen to so much heavy profanity and negative topic music, use profanity, play M rated/PEGI 18+ games, etc. And then of course, you have the elders who defy the norm, and actually care more about the people than the rules and strict adherence. The majority are definition the prior three haha.
We hope may happen in our lifetime. In my case, I was praying for it since 2002
That's the year I got out 02
@@jerryjohanan1940 si, you're one of the answer.
What is more probable? That Jesus returned (invisibly) in 1914 but his promis that the generation at that time "would by no means pass away" before Armageddon (failed prophesy)
Or...
Jesus did not "return" in 1914 (like he didnt return in 1874) and by extension he didn't "inspect his household" therefore he didn't select his "faithful and discrete slave (class) which means he didn't appoint the WBTS over "all his belongings (Christians)?
What is more probable?
Obviously the latter haha.
Let me just add that using *a parable* does not equal *a prophecy that they were chosen by god to be his Representatives in 1919.*
All of that was *made up by the Pseudo Judge Rutherford.*
Hey just subscribed from Québec ! 😊
Sorry, in this video you kinda remind me of Dr Evil (that Mike Myers character) 😆 the content is great nevertheless, just dont bring in a mini-me or place your pinky too close to your mouth 😆
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@@RamblingManDan This logo looks strangely familiar...
HAHA! I never thought of that one but that makes perfect sense, I LOVE IT!
Excellent 😊
Thank you!
A big old country club. Just a social thing for people who want to be relevant
Actually this is the BEGINNING for Jehovah's Witnesses!
"Only up from here!" _a lone Stephen Lett says as the last remaining member giggling to himself in front of his trusty mirror_
I think the congregations that go against the governing body will be deleted what do you think
A lot of pearl clutchers in the comments getting upset over some naughty language.
Buncha church ladies.
True!
🤬 *#$%*!#? - LOVE IT!*
The profanity that is.
Getting upset by "foul" language when A LOT of Ex JWs & current ones have problems with drinking (alcoholism), watching films of an adult nature
(P ☢️. R:. N) or were the sort of "christians" who were repeat offenders when it pertained to adultery.......
BUT!!
How dare you use unsavory language!
That's hysterical! 😆 🤣
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Enjoy!
Side note: Foul language will probably be left up to a matter of conscience................
Cause, ya know.....................
"New light" 💡
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It'll be the new Bible students😂. Watchtower is a real estate publishing company disguised as a religion.
Yes it is!
Didn't lose themselves of being a religion they just lost the 501c. They can still be a religion and do what they've been doing. They're just not getting money from the government.
That's what I meant to say. I misworded it.
@@TheCriminalViolin it's all good no worries 👌👍❤.
They are defininitly in the final part of the final part of their last days
You do know about the 501c3, right, the only way to get tax free money is a religious organization, so I personally disagree with the fact they are no longer going to be a religion, it's always about the money, but I do hope you're right about they are finished. Good discussion though.
501c3's are not just religions though. That said, when I was talking about losing their religious status and their charity status/funding from the government, I was specifically referring to Norway, which I said when mentioning it, who doesn't have 501c3 because that's a US thing.
And I certainly agree they'll try to do anything they can to get that funding from their government back, which is actually why they're trying to shift their shunning rules around. They only started that after the Norway ruling.
I definitely hope I'm right, and now that 3 months has passed, I'm more confident now they''re on their deathbed, and they now it, too.
Thank you for taking the time to listen and comment, I greatly appreciate it! All the best to you!
@@TheCriminalViolin ok, and you as well
Big fucking apostate greetings from the fucking bottom of my god damn heart from Europe❤😂
The apostate tat on the middle finger could be our prideful little wink of solidarity across the earth! haha. I love it! Greetings from Oregon!
@@TheCriminalViolin that would be so funny👌🏽
CT Russell didn't feel it was necessary for his IBSA group to identify themselves with an official religious name :
"We are in fellowship with all Christians in whom we can recognize the Bible as the only standard. We do not require, therefore, that all shall see just as we do in order to be called Christians, realising that growth in both grace and knowledge is a gradual process." Watchtower 1882 Apr reprints p.344
Do you have to be a JW to be a witness for God ? like .... the Bibles in Zelda. Triforce really is Tetraforce,
Tetra = Math, Grammaton = Language, the earth is a Sphere, unless you think it's like flat would be like a plane.
The active Force like got it from like star wars lol which actually got it from .... Bible. The flamming sword/ aka Light Saber is from Bible too
I mean there is no god so there is that
@@fuzzyh1ghland3r28 And i am a monkey, hehe ha ha, no maybe i'm a cat ? What do you think of that ?
Hmmm., Hello, Mr. Violin ! I have a question for you, oh first let me tell you I’m a worldly demon😝 a member of Christadom . O.k., the question who is this guy called Jehovah ? and why does anyone want to be one of his witnesses ? Hmmm., I suppose you guys are much closer to Judaism than Christianity, why ? I go to church and we follow Jesus.😜
The governing body of Jehovah's Witnesses is actively moving to make themselves far more mainstream christian, which is all but guaranteed why they're going to rebrand and remove their long-standing name completely. JWs are not Trinitarian at all, so they don't believe in "the father, son and the holy ghost" trope. They originally as a religion were trying to be a Judaeo-Christian hybrid, thus why they use the anglicized version of Yahweh/Jahweh, Jehovah. Yahovah is another way Yahweh is said. And for context, I am not a JW, as I mentioned in this video in fact. I am a Agnostic Atheist that was born into a JW family, and left at 15. And we're all "worldly people influenced by satan and his demons" here haha
@@TheCriminalViolin actually they are trinitarian just not Christian trinitarian.... Now hear me out it's the perfect video for you.
The word Jehovah is pretty much interchangeable. You have Jehovah God the father.
Now you will also hear when you do something wrong or speak ill of the org you are hurting Jehovah/ hurting Jehovah's reputation. Well if a Catholic priest does something with an altar boy did he harm God's reputation or the Catholic church?
So Jehovah is also the organization. Jesus died for our sins, but in order to get the benefit you have to be a practicing witness and be devoted to the org. So the organization has the roll of the son.
Now for the holy Spirit/ God's active force that gives us knowledge and strength when we need it. So who provides that knowledge at the right time? The faithful and discreet slave ie the governing body.
So you have Jehovah God who is not Jehovah the organization and not Jehovah the governing body. All 3 are Jehovah but all 3 are not the same.
Case and point the baptism questions. Baptized in the name of the father, son, and org.
@@insertrandomnamehere764 That is a weirdly good point. Haha. Damn.
@@TheCriminalViolin It depends how you view religion-to me it was the first politics/political party's. There used to be hundreds of Gods and priests got very powerful attracting people to their God.I think it was Rameses who said "No, there is one God and he gives power to me" thus scuppering the priests power (and hence "The divine right of rulers" that persisted into the 20th century with Tsars etc) This was taken up by the Jews (note how the Torah/Bible's first five books all show God hating his previous Egyptian chums in favour of the Israelites) and all Christianity AND Islam are is breakaway sects of Judaism-the breakaway being to gain political power/control-they both use the OT/Torah-ie Genesis Exodus Leviticus Deuteronomy numbers and bend them to show how their breakaway sect is Gods chosen (note how the Jews enrage and lose God in the power usurping books of the NT and koran!!) And of course within ALL the sects-Judaism Christian Islam there are hundreds of sub sects all vying for power and money-one of these being the JW's. All religions are nonsense today-vital in establishing society and politics 5000 years ago-but hopelessly out of date. I loved "The Satanic Verses"-basically one theme is if-as all the Mullahs and muslims say-the koran says you can murder infidels/subjugate women and do all sorts of evil,then Mohammad was fooled. He never spoke to Gabriel to get Gods words for the Koran,he spoke to the devil disguised as Gabriel who got all satans evil put into his book .(The same applies to any religion-dont KKK "Christians" say the Bible-ie God- wants Blacks and Jews killed and Gays murdered........ There may well be a God,but it DEFINITELY isn't one we've invented to date or in the future or ever will be.
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have any chance they can change the name?
This video is all conjecture. Watchtower is making adjustments that all business do to survive. Yes, its numbers are not great as they were two decades ago, but all businesses have hard time and Watchtower is making necessary steps to maintain relevance. I compare the process to IBM. IBM saw it was looking relevance, so made painful business decision. It is not as large as it once was but is still in business.
Yet again this technically agrees with one of my main points through this video and my inital one - The fact that they're 100% corporate (business) pretending to be a non-profit religion.
@@TheCriminalViolin You skipped my main point. It is comical to see some exJWs get erotic-like pleasure hearing it is collapsing and then cognitive dissonance kicks in when people say it is doing okay and shows sign of long-term survival. What is happening today is a gift compared to the three worse times of Rutherford and yet it survived.
Watchtower is a Networking marketing business structured as a non-profit. The way it works makes it obvious to anyone that understands money and business. I would not say it is a corporate business as it does not work like one sufficiently to qualify. A group should never be identified with its words, but rather its action/behavior.
@@b1crusade384 Erotic-like pleasure? Who says I get pleasure from it? The use of exaggerated terms also is just a tool to attempt to gather a rise out of someone/start a argument.
@@TheCriminalViolin Not arguing. I am pointing out a common error I consistently see with exJWs.
If you refuse to acknowledge the evidence or only want comments that tickle your ears, it’s okay. We are not in Watchtower anymore where you will get disfellowshipped if you do not agree something. Let’s end this now. You do you.
@@TheCriminalViolin respond was auto-deleted. I am not trying to argue. I just pointed out a common error I see with exJWs. Watchtower will be here for another 50 years. Many exJWs will not.
If you only want comments that tickles your ears, feel free to only focus on those. I think we have spoken enough about this.
I hope sooo its their ending😢
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LivEngT Acts 5v38,39 And this time I say keep clear of these men and let them be, because if this plan or this doing be from men it will break down, 39 but if it is from God you will not be able to break them down; you may turn out to be at war with God.🤔
And, as it is written, a house divided shall fall. God has declared this. Blessed be Almighty God.
@@Leftcatholicsatanchurch09 They still standing. Have been hammered for decades, even Hitler said he would exterminate them. Sorry, he was exterminated. Shall be interesting to see how it all climaxes. blessings
@@Leftcatholicsatanchurch09 Pslm 127 v 1 LivEngT 'If Jehovah is not building a house, its builders have taken useless trouble on it; If Jehovah is not guarding a city a guardsman has been uselessly vigilant. Praise Jah
who invented sin? its not a god thing... its a man made thing
Most things in reality are human things, even with how fervently many demand it is "of god" and so on. One of my go-tos is pointing out how if a god or gods exist, they would never begin to give a damn what someone is or isn't wearing, as only humans would make that a thing to begin with.
Utube psychologist. What's your hourly fee?
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Jw`s come from Bible students from christodelphians John Thomas
Jehovah's Witnesses are alive and well and they shall be around for all eternity
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@@TheCriminalViolin You are the one to laugh at uncle fester.
@@adamlopez3561 explain doctrinal flip flops and why it’s ok especially when it comes to people’s lives . And go
As you defend the false prophet, remember that you are going to be destroyed for watching apostate material.
@@adamlopez3561 still waiting buddy . Guess you been really searching the watchtower library for inspiration
Paul speaks of the great apostasy, a rise in apostasy would come just before the day of Jehovah comes.
.....to the effect that the day of Jehovah is here. Let no one seduce you in ant manner, because it (Jehovah's day) will NOT come unless the apostasy comes first and the man of lawlessness gets revealed, the son of destruction. (1Thes.2:2&3)
So THANK YOU all you EX-JW'ers.......for you have set apostasy in motion and the Day of Jehovah gets closer and closer....!!!!
That day has came and gone according to Jehovah's Witnesses own preachings MANY times. in the 1800s, 1914, during World War II, in the 70s, etc. Will you continue to allow men to move those goal posts every single time it doesn't happen and continue to trust them? Apparently so.
Here's what I tell ALL religious people: We will see. We'll find out eventually when we die what is true, and what is not.
The day of the beginning of the end has came and gone so many times already with none of JW prophecy ever reigning true. I guess you just got to keep say "okay we got it wrong this time too, but we know it won't be wrong now" until you're proven right, huh? Or at least so you hope you will be, for some weird reason.
It's funny. We're "made in Jehovah's image", it isn't supposedly our fault that we "sin", and he fully understands this, while being a forgiving, loving, understanding, kind god, yet, he simultaneously is seen as such a hateful, spiteful, vengeful, angry, controlling, vindictive, uncaring, unforgiving god if anyone dares not follow his every word and dictate, making him a contradiction and incredibly anthropomorphic (human). IF the prior is true, then how and why would he ever be willing to permanently end the lives of so many of his own children he creates in his image out of spite like that for a punishment? That by definition is the latter. Pure venegfulness, hatred, unforgiving and anger/spite out of the people not letting his rules & words control them. In fact, that is also a very human set of traits and reactions to such being the case. Perhaps that is religious humans applying their own biases against those they dislike because they refuse to "believe in the one true faith" (which every single religion and religious sect claims they are), and not at all Jehovah? Or the only other possibilities is he is in fact anthropomorphic, making him a Demigod, or both. Be he cannot be the loving, caring, understanding, compassionate, forgiving god you and most other christian religions preach where and when convenient to you.
I encourage you to really let that sink in and give it some thorough thought, and see if you can even begin to find a logical defense for Jehovah being such a humanized contradiction, along with why he'd be so spiteful toward his own creations for not being implicitly obedient to his every whim.
LOL you haven't learned anything from the many failed prophecies of Armageddon 😂 I guess this is why the Watchtower corporation's shareholders will continue to earn value on their shares- because there will always be hateful spiteful people hoping to see others die on a doomsday that their masters have been promising them for 150 years. The irony is that even if the false prophets of the publishing and real estate society were right, you would be destroyed for going on apostate material 😪
Are you on meds? You went on a worthless rant about profanity for 20 minutes. Your video started out great.
If you had seen my prior video (and my first) on JWs, you'd understand why I added the rant about profanity in. If your issue is actually my use of profanity, then join the club, Corey haha. I believe I even referenced that video and all the comments complaining that I use profanity.
you wish
Yes, I absolutely do, as do so SO many others that have left the JWs.
>Doesn't follow the rules set out by the witnesses and chooses to watch an apostate video and to engage
>Declares people will continue to follow the rules set out by the witnesses such as not watching apostate videos and engaging
>Somehow doesn't notice the problem
Okay, buddy.
@@stevenhuntley8706 Ironically proving my point in this very video haha
Watchtower is DANGEROUS 🛑
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