Raised in this cult. Knew it wasn't "the truth" from a young age. Left about 15 years ago. Lost everyone but it was the best and most freeing thing I have ever done.
I read so many comments like this with the same outcome and having the same feeling. I’ve always wondered if it was a true religion ?! why is it when people who leave! feel free and let go from their shackles
@@HappyBeeTV-BeeHappy That's exactly it. It is a cult. I was raised in it too, similar story to op. They destroy a lot of lives and are far more harmful than any of their members will ever admit to themselves.
@@grumblegrim True. And that’s bcuz people who like to dominate others can’t understand people not wanting to be dominated. They think that domination and being dominated are a complimentary and life supportive pairing. So to them, there’s something wrong with people who will not be dominated by something or someone. Having a mind and will of your own seems wrong to them.
Hello, Dr. Brown: I stumbled upon your video and absolutely enjoyed it for it's truth and pointing out what I did not know. I was a JW for 36 yrs. (I am now 76), 10 yrs. ago I was too sick to attend meetings. So, without me knowing it, I fade out. I began watching ex-JW videos out of curiosity, and I am glad I did. I was DF 32 yrs. ago, was reinstated one year later, and never forgot the pain of shunning, the loneliness and the deep pain in my heart. I was never the same. I've learned a lot, especially from your interview here. I am glad I'm out.
@@cathymoses4700: To Cathy Moses: You can't type things like that. Jehovah is God -- and will provide the strength to realize the new system of complete healing.
I understand, Stephanie. I’m 74 and I lost family too years ago. Never got over it but I have Jesus Who sees us through with Great Love though the experience of losing loved ones pops up in dreams and quiet moments. Be at Peace for you are loved. ❤
Thank you for sharing. My Dad was an elder he passed away two years ago. Before he passed away he didn't want to go after his death my brothers and I found letters he wrote to the society begging to be resinstad as an elder because his grown children not living at home was not witnesses. They were holding this against him.
I was raised as a jw and I was always unhappy. Always felt alone, harassed, judged and not good enough. I had already been dealing with depression and it got worse over the years. And it was a little before I hit my teen years I started questioning their teachings and doubting it.. Now I'm an ex jw and I'm still dealing with depression but I'm happier and my emotional, mental and physical health is better than it was before. And I'm happier now than I was in the organization. Leaving was the best thing that happened to me. Now I don't feel so trapped, and controlled anymore. And it's a great feeling.
Good for you! There is room for you and God's love for you so much more than anyone can imagine. The sense of belonging is strong in all of us, and we like to feel supported by our beliefs. So many Christian churches to choose from.
I started to listen to David Bercot also an ex witness but he has a videos here on TH-cam that have helped me beyond words because I really want to keep on my faith and understand what I had wrong and he explains everything so thoroughly I actually realized things that did not make sense to me and when I would ask their explanation did not convince me so listening and reading the passages in the Bible (not jws) it all makes sense for instance how Jesus went to preach to the demons. Jws could never answer the question satisfactory and other things like this then I started researching on my own that’s how I stumbled on David’s Bercot’s videos. Everything that I thought true it is not. I dislike the time I spent “learning” with jws but my faith for God and His Son hasn’t diminished so I continue. Sometimes life seems glum but God is merciful and loving and just concentrate on the good and keep up your faith. God knows your heart. Don’t give up. Eric Wilson is another person who I watch. He shows the differences in jws teachings.
Good for you. Life still works outside of any religion, and God and Jesus live outside them too, everywhere, even still in the Bible. The Bible does not belong to only one church.
🌿🌻Surrender your life to Jesus ! He will take away your depression. Focus on Jesus. God has invested power in the name of Jesus. His name is powerful !
i've been a jw my whole life & have recently woke up to the truth about this cult. i have my waking up story on my channel &&& also a secretly recorded elder's meeting where alllll they did was gaslight me & disregard my feelings & who i am as a black woman. soooo happy i'm finally free !!!
Was actually going to go listen to your channel, until I read what you said towards the very end about “disregarding your feelings as a black Woman “ , don’t feel like hearing any woke nonsense .
@@Francisco-dg4zf I realized that jws lean left they talk about all the wrong things the right is doing but they don’t realized that is the left with their wokeness and their brainwashing in school or mandates or gay rights and abortion rights. I don’t understand that. Not that government is good none of them are good. All are greedy and corrupt but I never understood that about jws.
@@cghrios783 wow ! I thought I was the only one who has thought about that same exact thing lol I’m glad to hear I’m not the only one who’s pondered on that huge paradox . It’s so weird that on the outside they seem to lean conservative, but as you said : they use the same talking points the Left uses to condemn supposed “Christiandom”. I have proven this myself by asking family members of mine that are still very much active some basic questions in regards to the current issues we are facing in the country with the rise of this extreme woke leftism and their answers are either extremely vague or they seem to be apathetic to the issues at hand . Ex: I asked that family member about the current Abortion issue and what their opinion was on the matter . The response : Let both sides of the matter do and say whatever and quit worrying about it . 🥴🥴🥴 I was thinking. To myself saying : is that it. ? That’s all you have to say ? I thought you guys where pro life ? Oh … and you will never get them to admit they are pro life for some reason they refuse to use that term . It’s such a paradoxical worldview they live in
@@Francisco-dg4zf it’s funny how they say we don’t participate in politics (which really should be if they follow the Bible) but I know they always have opinions about the president (whoever he was on the right) but I think they confuse the word democrat with inclusion but they are ignorant about the facts (who did what) I would tell them well this president did this or that how can you say they are good? They did not like it. With abortion for instance when hillary and obama pushed for abortion at moment of birth, that was a shocker to them. Or immigration why should everyone come here without permission. But they would be happy about the supposed changes the left has been doing to combat it. When I said our economy is bad because we stop ourselves from advancing while all the other countries do not give a damn what they do to the earth. So many examples but more than anything I just wanted to know the truth, this is not it.
Its what happens when u are not chosen by JAH but instead Satan's, ie his way that this system goes. From pagan holidays, demonic system and government. You all are following the steps of the rich man, Pilate; in due time u all will know personally the Angel that killed the 185,000 assyrian soldiers in one night. That'll be u all, government, all unrepentant gays and the rest cheating on wives, with false religion. My GOD is the ONE that King David calls JAH in the Psalms. David has war all who's God not JAH. Enjoy the reckoning... I shall clap vigorously.
I was in this church for over 20yrs, born and raised in it. It wasn’t easy leaving but I finally managed andI found the true gospel of Jesus Christ and it changed my life. If / when you leave this cult continue seeking the truth and the Almighty God will help you find it. I thank God everyday I got out . If your family is still there continue to pray for the eyes of their understanding to be opened God answers prayer. My sisters got out after me.
Here in Belfast from 1971-1978 I went through Grammar School education with the son of the head man of Watchtower Society in all Ireland. His son then went on to university and is presently a university lecturer. Bear in mind that the Watchtower Press at that time was telling their people that the world was going to end in 1975. The hypocrisy is staggering.
@devolver You've got it. They're selling a bill of goods. They're hustling gold bricks and the Brooklyn Bridge. When they knock my door, I don't see poor lost souls, I see the deceived who are taking others to the same Hell they are headed for. You only have to talk to them, I have had them agree with everything I tell them then they send the pastor and his wife to my door who between them can't answer the same questions I asked their followers. It really is pathetic.
This is very common with fundamentalists churches. Evangelicals Pentecostals have almost the same mindset. University not necessarily makes you smarter. Mormon have a high value for higher education, but look at them, they believe in a comic book.
@@LibrePensador12 I would describe myself as a Fundamentalist Pentecostal since all manner of nutjob has latched onto the term Evangelical. I do take issue that Pentecostalists somehow in your mind devalue education. Since God's Word encourages the faithful to improve our minds I fail to see where you get this notion. Please expand on this as I am anxious to know why belief in the Gifts of the Spirit, as taught biblically, in some way makes those like me like the JW cult?
@@sledge1960 most Pentecostal I know are uneducated people. Most of them reject science. I prefer Jehovah's Witnesses, they're open to have a discussion, they're very educated people --not necessarily academic-- they have good morals. I don't want anything with Pentecostals, I used to be part of a Pentecostal church, and I don't want to get back to that church.
When I had my first Cancer op, when I was still "barely in", the Anaesthetist a very kind man, said, it is unlikely you will need blood, but are you aware that your blood card allows you to have all the components of a sandwich, but you are not allowed to make and eat the sandwich. He further stated that they will honour my declaration. He also said he has experienced many unnecessary deaths due to this policy, and it sits very heavily on the hearts of all Medical staff. I said to him, thankyou, I never considered these points.
Blood is complex and unique. There are uncertainties and dangers associated with blood transfusion. Reference works state that there are some fifteen to nineteen known blood group systems. Regarding only one of these, the Rh blood group system, a recent book about blood said that “at the present time nearly three hundred different Rh types may theoretically be recognized.” Dr. Herbert Silver, from the Blood Bank and Immunohematology Division of the Hartford (Connecticut) Hospital, wrote that, considering only those blood factors for which tests can be performed, “there is a less than 1 in 100,000 chance of giving a person blood exactly like his own.” A person might decline blood simply because it is essentially an organ transplant that at best is only partially compatible with his own blood. At a meeting of the American College of Surgeons, Dr. Robert J. Baker reported that the ‘danger of adverse effects from blood is far greater than previously believed with one out of 20 patients developing a reaction.’ The textbook Hematology contains this table: Types of Transfusion Reactions Febrile Leukocyte antibodies Platelet antibodies Pyrogens Allergic Hemolytic (incompatible transfusion) Transmission of disease Serum hepatitis Malaria Syphilis Cytomegalovirus infection Gross bacterial contamination Cardiac overload Citrate intoxication Potassium intoxication Abnormal bleeding Incompatible transfusion Massive transfusion Isosensitization Transfusion hemosiderosis Miscellaneous Thrombophlebitis Air embolism Injection of foreign material You can contract a disease from as little as one millionth of a milliliter of infected blood. Professor H. Busch, a director of transfusion medicine, ended a report to a convention of North German surgeons: For its optimum biological value donated blood should be transfused within twenty-four hours; after that the metabolic risks increase because of changes in the stored blood. On the other hand, blood must be stored for at least seventy-two hours or else it may pass on syphilis. And even tests to identify syphilitic blood are not a safeguard, for they do not detect syphilis in its early stages. There is no need to describe here the damage that can come to a person receiving syphilis-infected blood, as well as the harm to his or her family. Bible-based objection to blood can be accommodated in most cases by the use of alternative therapies. If a patient has lost a great deal of blood during surgery or through an accident what fundamentally is needed to prevent shock and death is to replace the volume of fluid lost. A person might lose up to 1.5 liters (over three pints) of blood and still have over 60 percent of his red cells, an amount adequate for tissue nourishment. But the person needs more fluid in his vessels to keep the red blood cells circulating. The British journal Anaesthesia reported that non blood solutions do this more effectively than do transfusions of blood. Many persons believe that a transfusion will immediately enhance the blood’s oxygen-carrying capacity, but a recent editorial in Anaesthesia made this significant point: “It is worth remembering also that the haemoglobin of stored, citrated red cells is not fully available for the transfer of oxygen to the tissues for some 24 hours after transfusion . . . ; rapid blood transfusion must therefore be regarded primarily as a mere volume expander in the initial stages.” Researchers at Ohio State University found that the reason for this is that chemical changes occur in stored blood. Their investigation showed that blood stored more than ten days “does not improve or may even worsen oxygen delivery immediately after transfusion.” And they found that the oxygen delivery was still below normal twenty-four hours later.
I was D/FD at age 77 for apostasy, whereas I had been discussing many points of disagreement with elders and circuit overseers ,and agreeing to disagree, until recently NO DISCUSSION WITHOUT CONSEQUENCE
Dear Hudson, l hope your experience was not too traumatic especially if you have family members involved in that group. I hope that you also accept Jesus Christ as your personal Lord and Savior. With all of your knowledge of the Bible You ought to be able to separate Watchtower doctrine from the New Testament. Hudson l really hope you do good study of the New Testament and do not throw out the truth of Christ along with the Watchtower stuff. I do wish you well and wish l can help you if l can.
@@manfredmann5385 Of Many, 1/. Only Baptised JW's will be saved, 2/. Jesus is Michael,3/.Dates, how do they know, 1925 specifically which they claim was not a prophecy, they BUILT a house.4/. 1975 was the publishers misunderstanding,5/. The elastic 1914..6/. Child Abuse, why not give up the files,7/. Shall I go on?
I was born into this cult. I started questioning it all in my teens, but remember even at a younger age I knew something as not right. It messes up your mind. I got into drugs and hated myself. I started in a new fresh direction around 23 and never looked back. Happy they are falling apart. My Mom and one sister are still involved in it.
@@karfomachet7265 dude no fucking way honestly that’s what i felt like doing but because i was really fascinated about traveling after visiting Mexico and seeing another culture it just opened my eyes that there’s more to see than what these people say. Im so sorry for your friend i hope you guys see each other again man. My condolences
Excellent interview and as a recent ex JW that was in the organization/cult I’ve got a lot of dark stories within my family being a physically and mentally abused child of a father who served as a elder (leader of the Congregation) for close to 50 years. The double life he led was horrific and the religion is entirely focused on fear/doomsday theology that basically threaten’s their members and weaponizes taking away their families if they question or commit a act of sin like your guest explained in a excellent truthful manner. In the last 3 years Watchtower has sold over a thousand Kingdom Halls at bottom prices and take the money in many cases to pay off with gag orders the hundreds upon hundreds of cases of Child Sexual Abuse they have badly lost. I could go on and on, but the warning James Beverly gives to get out of the cult and for others interested in studying with the possibility of joining the organization to avoid them, as a veteran JW I urgently agree with all his warnings.
@@birdlynn417 quali occhi ti ha aperto riguardo alle profezie ,tutte le date che sono risultate false che non si sono mai avverate sopratutto quella del 1975 che ha rovinato migliaia di famiglie ,E adesso dicono che alcuni avevano compreso male la profezia del 1975 quando ci sono riviste che lo confermano, ti rendi conto che non è una religione ma una società che va a braccetto con BABILONIA LA GRANDE ha dato merito a l'ONU in una svegliatevi del 8 SETTEMBRE del 1991 (CONTROLLA ACCERTATEVI DELLE COSE PIU IMPORTANTI I BEREANI SONO ANDATI A VERIFICARE SE LE COSE STAVANO VERAMENTE COSI E BIBLICO )CHE L'ONU PORTERA PACE E SICUREZZA ETERNA E 1992 SI SONO ASSOCIATI ,APRITE GLI OCCHI CONTROLLATE ACCERTATEVI DI OGNI COSA .DA L'ITALIA .
Le sale VENDUTE in tutto il mondo ammontano più di 6200 FILIARI e sale congresso per risarcire le vittime di pedofilia sui minori in Australia in Inghilterra Belgio America, Olanda Nuova Zelanda La polizia ha fatto irruzione nelle FILIARI per accedere a documenti segreti sulla pedofilia nascosta, stanno affrontando centinaia di processi in tutto il mondo soprattutto in Australia, qui anche in ITALIA I GIORNALI PARLANO DI PEDOFILIA NELLE CONGREGAZIONI E ANCHE LA TELEVISIONE NE DANNO NOTIZIE ,Ma il 90x100 dei T G si rifiutano di credere solo pochi che come me si sono accertati come fecero i Bereani si accettarono se le cose stavano veramente saluti da Italia.
@@birdlynn417 REAL BIBLICAL PROPHECY?! You mean like the 8 times they set a date for the return of Christ?? Lets make one thing perfectly clear, under mosaic law, every Jw prophet would be stoned to death for the false predictions they made. Duet 18:22 New World Translation "When the prophet speaks in the name of Jehovah and the word is not fulfilled or does not come true, then Jehovah did not speak that word. The prophet spoke it presumptuously. You should not fear him.’ On another note Charles taze Russell claimed to be fluent in Greek in Hebrew, he was tried in court and they proved he didn't in fact speak Hebrew or Greek, he is a liar and a false prophet. The LORD's name is not "Jehovah" it is יהוה YHVH the Hebrew language doesn't even have the "J" sound, the "J" sound it is from Germanic language.
@@birdlynn417 Hi . Try Parable if the vineyard channel or other Torah observant Christians although I can’t recommend any other channels. PV Also believes in the end times prophecies in revelation , YHWH and Jesus as seperate beings aka Jesus as Gods son, everlasting life in paradise on Earth as bible teaches. No governing body or big money making corporation or other witness stuff which is very off putting. And studying straight from bible as well as lost books which is really fascinating. Was once a witness for 5 years and the controlling measures they impose, some of their beliefs aka Jesus has already returned invisibly to name a few are questionable and leaves their followers open to being deceived, which is what Christians are warned against.
@@jen7834 Thanks, Jen, I only studied with JW for 4 months, then totally left any studies with them. I found bible study interesting, until all the "other" weirdness that they teach outside of biblical teachings and truth. What a strange cult, I think it attracts people who are lonely, and who don't have a family, and who want to be told what to think. I am far from that and much too universal to surrender my mind or heart to such a controlling cult. The Parable channel looks interesting to me. Thanks.
My mom became a JW 14 years ago. She has totally changed. I don't know how to help her out of this cult. I hate to see what's its done to her and how she has changed. I miss mom the way she was. She used to be happy, fun, and loving to all people. She isn't anymore.
So sorry. Maybe she felt lonely and now feels that she has a family to join and belong too. They are good at making you believe that you are loved and supported by the family of JW. But to throw away your own conscience for them is unspeakable.
That is not the fault of the witnesses. I am a Jehovahs witness and we have fun and we are kind to everyone, and by the way we go to movies, and concerts ,we have barbecues and we dance just like everyone else we just don't drink ourselves silly ,we don't swear or try to sleep with our neighbors husband. Maybe you need to be more supportive of your mother Maybe that is making her sad
I was raised as a JW. They always say that if you have doubts to do your research. But they only want you to do research in publications they provide. If a person sincerely does their research and comes to a different belief, and if they are vocal about it, the WT will disfellowship them (shun them).
Well that is not true I did research and still am even after I became a witness. And you will not be shunned for not wanting to join.You are disfellowshiped after committing serious sins and before disfellowshipping you get a chance to repent it, is really your choice just don't commit a serious sin .that seems easy enough. But if you do become a witness you can't be allowed to stay if you are committing adultery and you keep doing after you are counseled .makes sense to me
@paula You will be shunned if after you get baptized, at some point you decide to leave. Even your own family-if they are TJs-they will stop talking to you. Just to clarify, you decide to leave because you don’t agree with some beliefs. It’s not that you have committed any sin.
@@paulajay473 unfortunately, you picked easy examples to sort of justify. But if an active JW no longer want to be a JW, they will be shunned, no other option exists. That is coercion, plain and simple. It is very sad that a religion needs to resort to those tactics to retain membership.
People lose their way all the time. Come on, quit blaming the JW. There are people walking away from church every day, yet do not make the headlines that the JW do.
I agree, religion is a dead loss, that's why I and many like me have a Personal Relationship with Jesus Christ, the Son of the Living God. Religion really is a scam, Jesus Christ is the genuine article.
@@sledge1960 But you have no personal relationship to Jehovah which is the God of Jesus. “I am ascending to my Father and your Father and to my God and your God,” (John 20:17)
@@josephtucker9612 Oh but I have sir, since Jesus Christ, Yeshua Ha'mashiach is the second personage of the Triune godhead He is thus unquestionably God. You take John out of context. You stopped reading too soon. John 20:28 - 'And Thomas answered and said unto Him , My Lord and my God'. Continue reading until the end of the chapter. Now that's from a translation of the scripture whose translators are academically qualified and whose credentials are given in the Introduction to the text. If it was good enough for Thomas, who walked personally with the Lord, it is good enough for me. As Isaiah said 'Come let us reason together'.
@@sledge1960 The development of the trinity doctrine was forced on Christendom by Constantine back in the 4th century. Constantine was a pagan king that knew nothing about the bible. He wanted to unite his empire so he decided the winners on issues Christendom had at the time. He decided the Father and Son was of the same substance but nothing was decided on the holy spirit at the time. He also decided that Jesus was a god-man as a compromise of Gnostic and Christian beliefs. As a result the trinity doctrine is contradictory to the bible. Since there was no trinity proof texts in the bible, trinitarians modified their Latin and Greek manuscripts when copies were made but those forgeries are exposed by earlier copies. That is why most of those forgeries are not in modern translations today. Colleges teach the history of the trinity. The students learns how it developed over time and begins to think the bible is a hoax. The trinity is a hoax. If you are a pastor teaching your flock the trinity then you are a false prophet according to the bible. Deut. 13:1-4: “In case a prophet or a dreamer of a dream arises in your midst and does give you a sign or a portent, and the sign or the portent does come true of which he spoke to you, saying, ‘LET US WALK AFTER OTHER GODS (Trinity idol), WHOM YOU HAVE NOT KNOWN, AND LET US SERVE THEM,’ you must not listen to the words of that prophet or to the dreamer of that dream, because Jehovah your God is testing you to know whether you are loving Jehovah your God with all your heart and all your soul. After Jehovah your God you should walk, and him you should fear, and his commandments you should keep, and to his voice you should listen, and him you should serve, and to him you should cling.” False prophets turns worshipers from the true God Jehovah that Jews worshiped to other gods like the trinity idol. THE JEWS HAVE NOT KNOWN THE TRINITY.
@@sledge1960 Thomas had said (verse :25) that unless something happened he would “not believe.” What was it that Thomas refused to believe? Was it that he refused to believe that Jesus was equally God with the Father? If the disciples had learned, upon seeing the resurrected Jesus, that he was God, certainly they would have indicated this! But notice, neither before nor after receiving Holy Spirit (:22) did they kneel or do any act of worship such as one would certainly do upon coming aware of being in the presence of God! Notice that the disciples who had seen Jesus earlier did not tell Thomas that Jesus was God (:25)! This is an incredible oversight if they had really believed they had seen God! Certainly, if they had discovered that Jesus was really God when they saw him resurrected, they would have talked of nothing else! If, on the other hand, they had already known that Jesus was God even before seeing his resurrected form, then Thomas, too, would have already known about it and certainly would not have meant: “Unless I see ... the print of nails [etc.] ... I will not believe [Jesus is God].” No, the context of John 20:24, 25, and 29 shows that Thomas refused to believe that Jesus had been resurrected from the dead. Certainly, being resurrected from the dead does not make you God. Other persons in the Scriptures had been resurrected from the dead before (and after) Jesus, and no one, for a moment, ever suspected them of being God! In fact, being resurrected from the dead would have been used as evidence that a person was not God, since God has always been immortal and cannot die in the first place! Furthermore, Jesus’ statements before and after Thomas’ exclamation (“my Lord and my God!”) show not only that Jesus wanted Thomas to believe that he had been resurrected to life but that he could not possibly be God!! Jesus’ command to Thomas to literally touch his wounds and actually see his hands proves that he meant, “See, I am the same person you saw die, but now I am alive ... be believing that I have been resurrected to life” (not, “see, these wounds prove I am God ... be believing that I am God”). Notice that the reason given for Thomas to “be believing” is that he can see Jesus’ hands and their wounds. Likewise, after Thomas says “My Lord and my God,” Jesus reaffirms that Thomas now believes (as did the other disciples after seeing - Jn.20:20) that Jesus has been resurrected (not that he is God) “because you have seen me” (:29). Certainly Jesus wouldn’t mean, “you believe I am God because you can see me.” Instead, this is proof that Jesus, Thomas, John, and the other disciples did not believe Jesus was equally God with the Father because John himself has made it manifestly clear that “no one [no human] has ever seen God” - 1 John 4:12 Therefore, since no man has ever directly seen God (who is the Father only - John 5:37, 6:46; 17:1, 3) but men have only indirectly “seen” God through representations such as visions, dreams, etc., Jesus is saying: “Believe I have been resurrected and that I am obviously not God because you see me directly (and even touch me so you can be sure I’m not a vision or an indirect representation).” Thomas did not bow down, worship, etc. upon learning that it was really Jesus and saying 'my lord and my god.' He could not have just discovered that he was in the presence of God and acted the way he did! It’s also obvious that Jesus did not understand Thomas to be calling him equally God with the Father in heaven. But did John, in spite of the incredible contradiction of a previous statement like 1 John 4:12 and at John 1:18 that “no man hath seen God at any time,” somehow think that Thomas understood Jesus to be God? Well, no other disciple of Jesus ever made a statement to him which could honestly be construed as meaning Jesus is God! So, if John had, somehow, understood Thomas’ statement that way, he certainly would have provided some follow-up clarification and emphasis in his own comments. Surely John would have shown Thomas prostrating himself before “God” and worshiping him but he doesn’t!. So how does John summarize this incident? - “But these were written that you may believe [Believe what? That Jesus is God? Here, then, is where it should have been written if John really believed such a thing:] that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God.” - John 20:31 So it is clear from context alone that neither Jesus, nor John, nor Thomas considered the statement at John 20:28 to mean that Jesus is equally God with the Father. Remember this is the same Gospel account that also records Jesus’ last prayer to the Father at John 17:1, 3: “Father,.... This is eternal life: to know thee who alone art truly God, and Jesus Christ whom thou hast sent.” - NEB. It is obvious from this scripture alone that Jesus and the writer of the Gospel of John do not believe Jesus is equally God with the Father. “I am ascending to my Father and your Father and to my God and your God,” (John 20:17) Do trinitarians think Jesus was going to ascend to a trinity god? Jesus calls the Father his God but the Father never calls Jesus his God. Where in the bible do trinitarians get the idea that Jesus is equally God with the Father? Rev 3:12 says “...I will write upon him the name of my God and the name of the city of my God, the New Jerusalem that descends out of heaven from my God, and my own new name.” So after Jesus ascended to heaven, his Father is his God. As you said the expression “My Lord and my God” would still have to harmonize with the rest of the Scriptures. From the rest of the scriptures and the context we cannot conclude Thomas meant Jesus was the Almighty God.
I left the JW's in 1984 when they changed their Bible, John 1:1-4. I have not been allowed to speak with my parents since. Who has blocked me from speaking with them? Well my parents. So sad.
He is right on a lot of this, but DEFINITELY guard your body and your children's. They do not like to call the police and make themselves look bad when allegations of sexual abuse happen. BEWARE
@@kristinaallard7947 Of course it is not right, no body is saying that it is. But to point blame on one religion or organization about this sick matter is rediculous.
@@birdlynn417 Might be everywhere, but it’s prolific in “gods” organization, more so than in the Catholic Church. And the JW’s lied and tried to cover it up when before the Australian high commission. Do the research, your life depends on it!
i was raised in this, i even married a disfellowshipped person had two beautiful children it wasn't until about five years later that i was disfellowshipped my mother sent me a letter in the mail telling me he would no longer speak to me or see me she didn't have the guts to tell me to my face i in return called her and told her she wouldn't be allowed to see her grand children, now she is 97 years old and in a nursing home and i'm the one taking care of her needs no one goes to see her i have control over her finances someone from the kingdom hall has it for her health because they convinced her i wouldn't respect her wishes regarding blood transfusion, but they are not getting money out of her anymore and the elder visited her and was asking for money, my goal is to spend as much of my mums money on her care as i can so they get less when she passes away
As a JW you can ask questions, but you cannot question the answer they give you. Once they give the answer from WT that's the end of the discussion. If WT does not supply an answer you are to leave it in Jehovah's hands, and not get ahead of the Governing Body which is leading group spiritually, and you are to wait on them, perhaps one day they will publish something that will answer it. If you push your luck, you will booted out of their book club!
@@birdlynn417 then you wouldn't be a true believer according to Watchtower standards. You are essentially forced to conform. This is what leads to crisis of the conscience in many JWs and cause them to leave.
@@livingoutloud4210 I understand, thank you. There has to be room for individual differences, hobbies and interests. I like being my own self, not a clone to everyone else, yet do want a group to belong to too. But definitely NOT the JW.
I was born in August 26th, 1976 and wasn't supposed to make it to Kindergarten. Here we are 45 years later. So happy to be free of that Cult! Bible says hate what is bad...LOVE what is good. God don't like ugly! LOL
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When I was in the Kingdom Hall back in the seventies it had the green Bible and I said ask my mom I said mom why can I use this Bible why do I need to use this one she used to say well they're the same it doesn't matter and I said no it's not I said the wording is different how can I talk to people if they have their own Bible and the proof things and I was only 13 when I asked that then I said why do we need to watch tower so we can study at meetings when we just use the Bible oh no we need to watch tower to understand the Bible that's what my mom used to say so I had a critical mind when I was 13 years old thank God now I'm a follower of Jesus Amen Brothers
Dear TemperamentalTart, I have never met any Jehova’s Witness who has a clue what “grace” is. Grace is the unexpected, undeserved and unconditional love of God. You will notice that the word “grace” has been completely removed from the New World Translation. (Not a translation!)
@@georgesotiroff5080 Yes sir, it's only mentioned as "undeserved kindness". There is no weight behind the expression. Very works based...very exhausting.
When I left the cult, I was asked by a hardcore JW how was I to serve God? "the only way to serve him is preaching" in her words. I said, your really think that by writing letters which no one wants to read you'll be saved? The only way to get saved is by grace and the merit is for Yeshua who gave up his life for us the humanity
True. They are constantly concerned on whether they are doing enough preaching and attending meeting to be considered worthy of life. Failure or slacking off in that area brings on snubbing and lack of respect from other members. This can lead to a feeling of extreme social isolation since you are not allowed to have friends who are not JWs. In short, if you start gradually falling away from their organization their cruel hostile reaction will provide a strong push in that direction. Even worse, if your close family are JWS, they will feel obligated to fanatically join in. There are also racism and ethnic hatreds held by certain members and expressed against other JWS . You actually begin to wonder what the hell such people are doing there, and how they can be preaching one thing while feeling another. Not a good place to be, since such examples can have a bad influence on good character. 1Cor 15:33 3Do not be deceived: “Bad company corrupts good character.”
When I left Bible study 📖 I did not care about loosing friends because I never looked at them as real friends ( I saw FAKE), so I did not get close or expect real friends- it was so easy to walk away because I see and noticed everything from the beginning!!
Thank you. Wish I would have caught this live. I'm an Ex JW and have been a Christian for almost 40 years now and active in Christian apologetics for at least 25 years.
I love this content. good video. Thank you two for your hard work in researching about these cults, so that we today may have an idea of the facts about these type of groups. much appreciated. It is sad that these members are obviously deceived from the truth. blessings
I was brought up with Jehovahs witnesses and I still have up to the most recent publications and watch tower this year. At the end of the day if I want to know about Jehovah, his qualities, personality, his laws and commandments then I turn to the bible.
Hi guys I was brought up a witness and I was looking for indrescion about the cult but you are so accurate and you have gone to the right source Jim peton well done
After 65yrs I started to fade still believer though then something rocked the love of my life sadly at the same time he passed sway. So I am left with no one there has been no love shown not even a word of condolences at a time I have meeded them the most. I have committed no sin other then refusing to attend the meetings because of an elders actions. I'm not prepared to leave it in Jehovah's hands. And yes I personally know ones who have give their life to the blood policy. I am now in a state of shock
Dear sister, I'm so sorry you have been going through all of that. My husband and I are fading now..we began waking up together to some Scriptural truths a couple years ago by Holy Spirit and reading Scriptures in context (I was born-in and am almost 30 now.) I have seen the lack of love/socialization lately too. My best friend (also JW) who I grew up with (and has no idea I'm fading) didn't even invite me to her wedding..I guess because of COVID but she didn't do it on Zoom either. (Gatherings are allowed in my state but the Organization has inspired fear into meeting in person with anyone not 💉) I can't imagine losing my husband and going through this alone. My heart goes out to you. ❤ I pray you find peace and joy and comfort in the true promises of the Scriptures and in following Jesus. 🙏
@@Nica-Ra-Wata musica, your words offer no consolation to this widow. Maybe you may wish to offer belated condolences: let us do it together. We both offer our sincerest condolences for the death of your life's soulmate.
@@alishaba- you are ridiculous. No one can stop you from attending anything on Zoom. It's up to you to get access. You need to stop exaggerating and lying to make yourself the victim
@@trkstatrksta8410 There was no lie I told in my comment. I'll stand before Christ on that one. But if there's something I said that you don't understand what I meant, please feel free to ask and I will explain. I personally realized through a study of Scriptures and by God's Spirit that the organization was lying to me. I never once lied to or about the organization or anyone in it. I never even watched a single exjw video until after I was certain from the Bible that Jesus is the Truth and not an organization. It was God Himself who opened my eyes to realize I believed things as a Witness that contradict Scriptures. And all I had to do was simply ask Him for understanding and read His Word, instead of putting my trust in the publications of man. And if you don't realize yet that it is Jesus that is the narrow Way and the Truth, then I pray that someday you will. 🙏
@@trkstatrksta8410I think you didn’t understand the comment the person you’re criticizing did. Read carefully and stop being so offended because someone says something against your sect.
Occult definition to me is not being able to leave without punishment or being cut off from your friends or family. High amount if suicide and use of psychological medicine within the organization due to depression.
And the rest of the world? How about all the suicides from people who aren't saved, or have no religion, or faith? Yes, there are much more suicides by non religious people than religious people. Look it up.
I recently escaped and got saved. I read crisis of conscience and Christian Freedom by Ray Franz. Jim Penton apocalypse delayed and some other exjw books before I believed the gospel and received the Lord Jesus Christ as my saviour. I had a lot of deprogramming to do and resistance to the gospel at first. Some big problems are the low view of sin and the annihilation doctrine tends to push some towards atheism or suicide if they don’t feel good enough. As stated the Translation is really biased towards the Arian Heresy every verse on the Deity of Jesus Christ is perverted and Jehovah inserted at places in the New Testament that hide the gospel and the need to turn to Christ for salvation. KJB was vital for me to accept that Jesus is God the Son.
I took a Jehovah's witness to a challenge. I used my king James bible to refute him. I took him to a verse where Jesus himself was speaking. He couldn't deny the truth that was in front of him. After that, he was unsettling and ask me to give him back his kingdom hall materials. And never spoke to me again. That was the end of that.
The birthday thing is incorrect too because the bible mentions that Job's sons celebrated their birthday every year; the bible said each one on his day. But they somehow have missed that scripture.
What do yu know the verse- I will read job - very interesting - I really do not care about the JW Wish someone set up A real bible study - yu do not need to know the time or day Jesus told on the mount the signs The greatest time would be taking about god and His son Enjoying your life and helping others - most of all doing this not hurting others ( children ) Learning about a verse conversation about the verse This is really interesting and learning can be fun with the word money involved - free living - prayer to god through his son
@@jesuschristsaves9067 what's the point of having people trade one myth for another? Consider, like I have, that some people are as content living within the simulation of their choosing as you are living yours. If, however, a JW is truly miserable within the confines of the organization they'll eventually find their way out, hopefully towards the realization that the whole of Christianity is perpetuated racket or towards a less structured and controlled worship if they still have the need for comforting falsehoods.
@@omarmunoz5787 You’re coming from the assumption that your worldview is the correct one and that by continual pursuit of truth and knowledge will lead to a godless perspective. You’re also coming from the assumption that they are miserable which contrary to that many love being Jehovah’s witnesses. Few points; Firstly, what I’m trying to introduce to the Jehovah’s witnesses is not a “less structured” form of worship but rather truth, as Jesus stated in John 14:6. This means introducing the true Jesus Christ of scripture and not a later developed carbon copy which isn’t rooted in the Bible nor history. If I believe the Bible to be true and authoritative, then as someone to hold true to what I believe I will give said people the truth to the saving of their souls. I find it very strange that you feel I should operate my life a certain way and use your relative experience as the reference point. With all due respect I’m not prepared to sacrifice my intellect nor my salvation for someone’s opinion or worldview. Secondly, if you’re coming from the perspective of an agnostic, well then I’m sorry, but I’m not willing to take a step back into uncertainty because I’m convinced at the data that Christ is the truth. If you’re coming from the perspective of an atheist, well then I’ll never come to that conclusion and adopt a belief system that is contradictory and without evidence. Lastly, though the Bible is categorized as myth and some of the aspects in it are mythic, that doesn’t make it untrue. I could give my life story and though I have provided no evidence or good reason for you to believe it, it wouldn’t invalidate my story. Yet the historical data shows that a man named Jesus was crucified under Pontus Pilate, was dead, and was seen three days later by many eyewitnesses. But thanks for the post.
@@jesuschristsaves9067 What exactly do you mean by "historical data "? Are you saying that you have evidence for this extraordinary claim? If you have then it will be a first. Why should anyone care what is written in the bible?
Left in 2017 after 18 years my Lord and savior Christ Jesus opened my eyes ....no more blood sacrifices anymore false doctrine and professey iam so happy knowing the real truth of our lord and Savior Christ Jesus Amen
I LOVE Jehovah God but left the religion that claim to follow Jehovah God because the religion NO LONGER have love as the government none baptized members begin to out number the REAL baptized members! Yes, our religion was OVERTAKEN by the military! And these none baptized members are wicked and run MANY out of the religion...and even kill them if they can. The TRUE God, Jehovah is no longer with the religion as he left many of his people in times past for NOT loving him and each other.
The parking lot of the only Kingdom Hall in my town is empty every Sunday. Due to the pandemic in part initially. But it is still empty. An answer to prayer.
Love you, Mike, and love your show. I noticed that you briefly dismissed the (what you seemed to regard as relatively lesser) sins of elements of your own denomination in their false teachings or prophecies, perhaps relegating them as not institutional falsehoods, but rather individual anomalies. I have to admit that the reason I shy away from Pentecostalism is the seeming prevalence of emphasis on the modern prophetic word and misuse or emphasis on gifts. I have seen time and again Pentecostal leaders proclaiming this or that, or predicting one thing or another that did not come to pass. It destroys trust. Trust in them, personally, and trust in their denomination. The tendency of folks to follow someone they feel has God’s ear more than they, or God’s word that they don’t hear, is alarming to me. Hanging on every word of their particular “prophet”, yet dismissing every eventual falsehood or failed word as a misinterpretation. Maybe you have or maybe you haven’t taken a look (publicly) at your own denomination and exposed the false teachers, prophets, and pastors. I don’t recall seeing it. Would be happy to take a look, if you have. Just to be clear, I’m not promoting JW. I think they are way off the mark. I’m also sitting here this week on business travel in Mormon Central (Ogden, Utah) incredulous as to how this cult created such an empire around an obviously false prophet and scammer. Just a Bible-believing Christian trying to make sense of the myriad ways that the Bible is interpreted and put into practice. I don’t know if you’ll address my comments and questions, but I appreciate your allowing me to express them in your comment section. God Bless!
Michael Brown is good when it comes to Jewish issues and he believes in salvation through Jesus. Unfortunately he is blind to the false Pentecostal movement he belongs to. He needs prayer to wake up. If you are looking for someone who talks about all these fake pastors a good channel is “Fighting for the Faith”. Also some good Bible believing pastors who preach the word correctly are John MacArthur, Steve Lawson, Voodie Bauchman and Paul Washer.
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Some JWs do have testimony. A family member of mine had an interesting point of view on it. But thing is most wittnesss have fear. Growing up in it I noticed the other young people had higher rates of mental issues and social awkwardness . Many are afraid of being back slidden or that they'renot doing enough work which in their mind places their salvation at risk.
True. I’ve left recently and after a decade as a baptised JW you are moulded into a shell of your former self. I’m extremely reserved, have social anxiety and judgmental because they mould you to be that way. They target people with mental issues so already suffering depression, anxiety etc so it’s filled with people who try to display a happy put together group of people but they are suffering behind closed doors. My congregation was filled with white middle class boring old people who are walking dead.
I am 74. Left the Watchtower cult over 50 years ago. I am a christian . I regularly " witness" to local Jehovah's Witnesses, as they stand by their literature stand. I'm reasonably well informed about their teachings and their misleading new world translation . I did a 4 year university degree course in biblical studies and a full time 1 year bible college course. I approach them with compassion and with a gentle manner, which enables me to have an " ongoing " relationship. I trust that my approach and biblical knowledge ( and the Spirit ) will plant a seed . It's sad to see decent human beings dehumanised and mislead by their leaders , who don't understand the gospel and , indeed , " ..preach another gospel / Jesus ".
I am 58.I studied with the witnesses aged 18.I never believed a word they said but played along. I remember going to the Kingdom Hall where I was love bombed. They eventually stopped calling as I was always asking questions that they couldn't answer. The last visit I had an Elder accompanied them .I never believed the 1914 mantra. I also said why are you trying to predict end times? The Bible states that God will return like a thief in the night. I don't celebrate my birthday or xmas and people ask if I am a witness. I just don't like birthdays or xmas.Saves money too.
Why have the end time dates changed about 3 times? 1914 got dropped. It's not that effective as a religion either. 66% raised as witnesses leave. That suggests that people woke up to the false teachings or that Witnesses are not taught well. Membership is steadily declining.8% negative growth in 20 years.
@larysnw418 The dates have changed 3 times. "The prophecy of the Gentile Times, which began in 1914 remains the same." It actually begin 1874/1878. "But bear in mind that the end of 1914 is not the date for the beginning, but for the end of the time of trouble. Zion's Watch Tower 1894 Jul 15 p.226 "The year A.D. 1878 … clearly marks the time for the actual assuming of power as King of kings, by our present, spiritual, invisible Lord - …" The Time is At Hand (1911 ed) p.239 "It was never dropped." It was dropped. Notice you didn't provide any evidence. "You're quoting percentages but where are you getting your information?" Himself? "Are you disfellowshipped?" Why does that matter.
I used to ask my wife I said when you have a Bible study with somebody and they're new why don't you tell them what happens when you become a Jehovah's witness and you want to leave before they make the decision where you lose your friends you lose your family why don't you say that you see how many become a Jehovah's witness she didn't answer me
That's something JW's will never tell their bible student. To tell them if you get disfellowshipped you'll lose all your JW friends and family, they'll never recruit new members. I was never told of their shunning practices when I got baptised.
@Stop Censorship Good call, and now it's the generation of anointed ones that overlaps the current generation of anointed ones that saw 1914 that will witness the end.
There is a video at the KH. The elders had asked a member to give the Sunday talk. They did not know he stopped going to meetings. He said yes. He opened the Bible up ask the members to go there and started talking about Jesus and what He was teaching the people. After a few short minutes, the elders cut the sound and several went up and ask him to leave. The people were confused and the man as he was leaving apologized to the congregation for leaving. Hopefully, God used that to get some out of the cult. He always turns Satan's bad into good, as only He can.
I saw that video it was great. I prayed to God to help me see things as they are, read up some on what went on in Bethel. Not long after I read Crisis of Conscience and that was it for me.
When someone is assigned to give a public(Sunday) talk, it's arranged weeks in advance. The speaker(s) are also screened. They're not selected arbitrarily. The possibility, of someone who had "stopped going to meetings" and giving that talk, are zero. You're story is full of holes. Please refrain from posting any further nonsense. Are you disfellowshipped?
JW not only don’t report sexual abuse, but they also teach the women to stay in an abusive marriage. I was in an abusive marriage and I was told to stay in it just live a separate life. I told them I don’t believe a God that loves me would want me to stay in a marriage with a man that be hitting me. I divorced my exhusband and I never got baptized because some of the stuff they say sounds crazy! My mother is a JW and the stuff she says and believes is unbelievable.
He didn’t mention the most egregious and BLASPHEMOUS thing they believe and teach (144,000) they teach that NOT Christ but they are the Mediators by which prayers are heard. So the members that aren’t of this class prayers go through them to Christ. This was the straw that broke the Camels back for me, I left.
Lol, you're a liar. They don't teach that at all. They end their prayers with, In Jesus name. Do you just randomly pull BS out of the air and throw it around?
@Want Justice Jesus is not the mediator of all mankind. (Hebrews 9:15) That is why he is a mediator of a new covenant, in order that because a death has occurred for their release by ransom from the transgressions under the former covenant, THOSE WHO HAVE BEEN CALLED may receive the promise of the everlasting inheritance. The everlasting inheritance OF THOSE WHO WERE CALLED is referring to those going to heaven to be kings a priest. The little flock is being addressed. (Why are priests needed in heaven? Is everyone going to be king? Who are going to be their subjects?) Only a little flock is given the kingdom (Luke 12:32) and there are other sheep (John 10:16) not of this fold. Christ sacrifice is for many. Not just those that were called. The 144,000 were bought FROM the earth. (Rev 14:3) (They go to heaven) These 144,000 were bought from among mankind as FIRSTFRUITS to God and to the Lamb (Rev 14:4). When God recieved first fruits from the Israelites it did not mean God recieved it all. Only a LITTLE flock is given the kingdom by God. Only God chooses not yourselves. "THOSE WHO HAVE BEEN CALLED" not those who have called themselves. There are two destinations. A resurrection in heaven and a resurrection on earth. There are those that will live forever in heaven and those that will live forever on the earth. Jesus and the 144,000 are promised to receive their inheritance in heaven. Others will inherit the earth. Matthew 5:5 “Happy are the mild-tempered, since they will inherit the earth. Psalms 37:29 The righteous will possess the earth, And they will live forever on it Luke 22:29 and I make a covenant with you, just as my Father has made a covenant with me, for a kingdom Jesus is the mediator between "THOSE WHO HAVE BEEN CALLED" by God, this little flock bought from the earth, bought from among mankind, bought as first fruits to God and to the Lamb become kings and priests.
The thing that I truly worry about (and I'm sure many of you agree) is that upon leaving the JW faith, many will simply reject God altogether by wrongfully associating Him with JW.
JW's worship Jehovah who is Satan. If you read the Old Testament, it is full of evil and killings/murders that Jehovah or LORD promotes and supports. He's behind the majority of evil portrayed in the Hebrew scriptures.
@@morningglory9288 To be honest, it would be unjust to refer to the killings under God's order in the Old Testament as evil. They were well deserved punishments based on proper judgement, per the context. Although, I do agree with you that the JW's worship Satan. Not that the OT God is the same, though. They are depicted therein as separate and antagonistic.
Jacob Dillard, Well Jesus had a complete different nature to that of Jehovah/LORD. Jesus was the personification of absolute LOVE. He would never approve of any murders sacrifical offerings or mass killings of 100's of 1000's men woman children and babies as the God of the Old Testament was capable of doing. Jehovah/LORD is evil to the core, who loves animal and human blood sacrifices. Exodus 29:17, 18 "Cut the ram into pieces, and wash off the internal organs and the legs. Set them alongside the head and the other pieces of the body, 18 then burn the entire animal on the altar. This is a burnt offering to the LORD ; it is a PLEASING AROMA, a special gift presented to the LORD . Exodus 34:19,20 "The FIRSTBORN of every ANIMAL belongs to me, including the FIRSTBORN MALES from your herds of cattle and your flocks of sheep and goats. 20 A FIRSTBORN donkey may be bought back from the LORD by presenting a lamb or young goat in its place. But if you do not buy it back, you must BREAK ITS NECK. However, you must BUY BACK every FIRSTBORN SON. “No one may appear before me without an offering." Check out these two scriptures: 2 Samuel 24:1,2 "Once again the anger of the LORD (or Jehovah), burned against Israel, and he caused David to harm them by taking a census. “Go and count the people of Israel and Judah,” the LORD told him. 2 So the king said to Joab and the commanders of the army, “Take a census of all the tribes of Israel-from Dan in the north to Beersheba in the south-so I may know how many people there are.” 1 Chronicles 21:1,2 "Satan rose up against Israel and caused David to take a census of the people of Israel. 2 So David said to Joab and the commanders of the army, “Take a census of all the people of Israel-from Beersheba in the south to Dan in the north-and bring me a report so I may know how many there are.” Same account but Samuel reads as Jehovah or LORD, Chronicles reads as Satan.
@@morningglory9288 The reason why Jesus came to represent love was because man deserved the previous judgments in the Old Testament. In other words, the God of the Old and New Testaments do not contradict, they compliment as two sides of the same ideal: one of justice, the other of mercy, but both the same. Please note, though: none of the deaths under God in the Old Testament were "murders". They were justified executions. Killing and murdering are two very different things. It is entirely possible to kill many without murdering one.
Yes my friend and this is what Satan himself is after. He wants people away from God so many times when you leave cults God does not exist to you. You may come around later but no guarantees there.
I LOVE Jehovah God but left the religion that claim to follow Jehovah God because the religion NO LONGER have love as the government none baptized members begin to out number the REAL baptized members! Yes, our religion was OVERTAKEN by the military! And these none baptized members are wicked and run MANY out of the religion...and even kill them if they can. The TRUE God, Jehovah is no longer with the religion as he left many of his people in times past for NOT loving him and each other.
I told my wife you don't celebrate birthdays she still Jehovah's witness I'm not you said birthdays are wrong because it doesn't show a good light cuz they were killings well if you're going to use that analogy I told her there was two men in the Bible that got their haircut Samson and somebody else I forgot his name it begins with an a I think and both of them died so you shouldn't get your haircut she said don't be ridiculous I said exactly 😂👍❤️
Thank you for the book references-fantastic interview, gentlemen. Thank you SO much for an A+ attempt to tap the lost on the shoulder with wisdom and grace. Bless you!🙏🏻💗😍
I listened to a lot of testimony of the Australian Royal Commission into child abuse. The overwhelming impression is a flood of stupidity about the issue. All churches came off looking bad. But right at the top was the Jehovah's Witnesses !!!!!! Their leader said that the witnesses believed that every incident must be witnessed by 2 or more people as if they were immune because of this. It most certainly impressed no one. Great talk by the way. I learned a lot from this. All the best. Alan
I pray that all cults like Jehovah Witnesses, Mormons, organizations that teach against the Trinity , Scientology, other cults etc. and false religions would lose members in these last days and I pray that Jesus would be delivering people from them and that they would come out in droves ( in large quantities) . In Jesus' name. Amen
As an exjw, now born again Christian, I am VERY concerned that this author is calling Eric Wilson and James Penton Christians. Both men deny the deity of the Lord Jesus, that he is God in the flesh. Wilson's channel has morphed into one of humble whistleblower to arrogant leader over a God of his own making. I'm not denying that Penton and Wilson have done a GREAT service to the cause of waking people up out of JWs, since I myself first came to open my eyes about "The Truth" as a result of Eric's first 10 or so videos. They were an excellent exposé! I even have Penton's book, Apocalypse Delayed, a good read! But sadly these men are still misled and misleading others to a Jesus that cannot save.
It’s important to note that Jehovah’s Witnesses treat baptized members very differently that non baptized people who may attend their services. It’s when you’re baptized that you actually become a JW. My mother urged me to get baptized as a JW when I was just 10 years old. I had no idea the ramification of doing such. Once I dissociated myself from the JW’s I was prompted disfellowshipped in my late teens. My mother told me then that I was “dead to her.” Now I’m 65 years old and my mother still in all these years won’t make contact with me. I can call her if I want, and she’ll be cordial, but there’s no relationship. On the other hand, she’ll call her sisters or brothers who are not JW’s (but not formerly baptized JW’s) and engage them or visit them often. A baptized JW who leaves is seen as apostate and must be shunned by all other JWs including immediate family members.
That just is not true .you can leave whenever you want. If you are living an immoral life such as doing drugs your family can choose not to associate with you but that applies to non witness families also doesn't it .And you are not disfellowshiped for leaving. About disfellowshipping it Is not the first thing that is done, they are given counsel and they have a chance to come back. It isn't like they are just thrown away Jehovah doesn't want anyone to be thrown away we try everything to help them but ultimately it is their choice we have free will. We aren't brainwashed we have free will ,get that free will.
My Spouse and I left over 40 years ago .However the one thing they are right about is Christmas Easter and Halloween having pagan roots ..So happy to be no part of JW organization.
"Crisis Of Conscious," told the truth; you know they avoid THAT! The problem with RELIGIONS that have ALL the ANSWERS is that they do not allow for QUESTIONS!
The internet and the easy dissemination of the all the previous false prophesies at one fingertips has helped decimate the Watchtower. Of course the average JW is discouraged from looking at “apostate” sites or videos but there is so much out there that exposes the true Watchtower history how can one not begin to question?
I lost my best friend to this cult. She had been out of it for 20 years then about 3 months ago she started going again. I'm not sure how she doesn't see the craziness of it. We've been best friends for 9 almost 10 years. During that time she was always a leader never a follower. Then being last year she started going through some rough times. I was by her side every day trying to help her through it. But because of these hard times she started searching for something to make her happy. She started going to Bible study with her grandmother and before I knew it she had jumped whole heartily back into it. Since I am not a witness it started putting a widget in between our friendship. I really hate that things have turned out the way it has. I wish nothing but happiness for her. If she finds happiness in the witness then great but I'm afraid that it's going to turn into a disaster. If it does I'll be here if she needs me. I love her like my sister and hope for nothing but the best for her.
Show her this video. Eric Wilson /beroeans pickets here on TH-cam (ex jw he interviews the historian John Penton ex jw also a professor) David Bercot if she wants lots of information he is very good at explaining and shows from the Bible. I listen to him a lot really excellent person)
@@brittneyp282 No unfortunately I was made out to be the evil person in our friendship so I just had to cut all ties which was heart breaking. But I still only wish the very best for her no matter what that my be.
You can ask the JWs questions up until you join them. Then it is absolutely not allowed. And you are stuck. This is what is important for people to know. It is very important that people stay away from this organisation.
William J. Snell wrote "30 Years a Watchtower Slave". I read the book when I was 15 years old. Unfortunately, he expressed a sense of bitterness about his experience more than substance. When I was 12 years old I heard R.V. Franz deliver a keynote address at the "Divine Name" district assembly at Riverfront stadium. He was a powerful speaker as a member of the governing body. I left the Witnesses in 1977 because I began to have my own doubts about their Hermeneutics.
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The only connection I had with JWs I had was that we had this one couple come around to our place when I was growing up. They came around for about 20 - 30 years. They had 2 kids. We watched them grow up. I have watched quite a few of Eric Wilson's videos. He is a good man.
Great video! Amazing research. I do have a couple of thoughts, if it's not rude to share what I disagree on, It's just that, the nearly 100 thousand child abuse victims, me included, would dispute that they are harmless or nice or sweet people. The nicest sisters in the entire circuit still said I asked for it when I was raped as a toddler and forced me to remain silent while I was continously raped for years despite 78 adults being well aware, my own dearest friends begged me to repent of toddler fornication so that I could live forever with Jehovah's witnesses in a paradise that starts with burying the corpses of everyone who's not a Jehovah's witness, in nudity, with my rapist who was immediately forgiven and not reported to the police and hitler who gets a fresh start because "it's not for us to judge." It's also a little weird to see people split hairs. Are jws wrong? Absolutely, Completely wrong. Not only on the specific doctrinal issues unique to them but they are wrong for believeing in the authenticity of the bible as a book providing a historical record of a god. They're dumb for believing 8 million species of animals sprang out of an arks worth in the most rapid evolution ever described. Come the flip on. I was dumb, we were dumb, religion is dumb. Regardless, I realistically respect everyones beliefs with the caveat that I'm allowed to admit I'm scratching my head at some of the less realistic literalist interpretations and absolutely hate anyone of you that condones what they've done to me and children like me who trusted them and had decades of our lives ruined. I believe everyone is responsible for maintaining the pressure in regards to dangerous policy reform, if they won't report child rape and alert parents they become responsible for the crime, I will hold them responsible this year and sue them for terrorising me into repenting for a crime committed against me. That's all, thanks for another great video can't wait to see what you put out next.
Io sono un ex sono uscito da poco e condivido quello che hai detto lo riscontrato anch'io che hanno commesso dei crimini contro di voi e contro migliaia di persone che si fidavano di questa sinagoga di Satana, hanno infangato il nome di Dio proteggendo se stessi (LA WATCHTOWER AMERICANA SI È MACCHIATA DI GRAVI CRIMINI VERSO GEOVA E CONTRO PERSONI INNOCENTI COME I BAMBINI ,GEOVA GLI RISERVERA LA DISTRUZZIONE TOTALE ) noi soffriamo le vostre pene e piangiamo con voi ,IL NOSTRO AUGURIO È SIATE FORTI E CORAGGIOSI NEL PROSEGUIMENTO DELLA VOSTRA FEDE IN DIO .SALUTI DA L'ITALIA.
Im sorry for the pain you've been thru. The main reason I dissociated myself from the JW is the CSA, I can't stand that 😡 I wish there's an everlasting kind of suffering for them child mol-est-ers, and for the hypocrites with double standards who blame it on you being a toddler. I'd kill whoever harmed my only child. How about your parents? How they didn't notice the abu--se?
May the Lord God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob bless and comfort you and everyone elsewhere in that has had this kinds of experience in Jesus mighty name.
I heard that to when my mom dragged us into it in 1970 I was 10. They were telling us that Babylon the great (the end of the world) was going to happene in 1975 and they had me making a fool of myself telling people that especially my peers. 1975 came and went and here we are.
JWs stated that 1975 was the end of 6000 years of human history. They never said the end of the world was was going to be that year. How could they? Jesus said that no one knew the "day or the hour"
Thank goodness for the overlapping Generations. PS. On the that issue please read Matthew chapter 1 lists 42 Generations none overlapping. They almost Never quote "This Generation will not pass...." what an embarrassing teaching is the overlapping Generations rubbish.
I hope you are referring to the 🐂💩 of ALL religions. There are no arguments beyond deism without a major leap of faith and faith is stupid. Belief ≠ acceptance Faith ≠ trust.
I'm a jw (since I'm 17 so I can't really do anything) and I have so many questions. Especially about paradise and just everything in general, I mean I don't know if it exists since I can't really find proof if it's going to happen or not, every time I say I don't believe in it my mother gets mad at me. I'm scared everyday because I know if I leave I'll be shunned and my parents won't talk to me because I'm worldy. I just wish I didn't live in fear everyday. I tried doing research but it confused me so I don't know where to look first.. I recently lost an old friend that was a jw to suicide and I'm starting to wonder if it was because of the stress from being a witness since we have so much we have to do to feel accepted. I remember when I was young my mom was very sick since she had a lot of seizures and my dad had to work to keep us under a roof. In our old Hall we needed help but a lot of the witnesses that were in that Hall didn't want to help us and they gave us mean looks and the cold shoulder. I know not every witness is mean, I've met some real nice ones. But it sucked knowing they were supposed to be nice but then they treated my family badly and ignored us, I still cry about it sometimes because I was taught that people in the Hall should be nice to each other and I was taught that worldy people were bad. But I've met people who aren't witnesses and they we're very kind to me and didn't judge me.. I honestly don't even know what to believe anymore..
I am so sorry you are going through this. Just know that you can be set free. Jesus died for us so that if we believe in him, In his death on the cross and resurrection we will Be set free. Jesus is God in the flesh, he is the way the truth and the life . If I were you I would get a job as soon as possible, save money and when you are 18 move out. Your friends and family from the Hall will Stop talking to you when you leave the JW cult. Trust in the Lord he will make a way for you.
If you find that you do feel the need to leave, know that it is rough, but it gets better. I made new friends who helped me find my way. I went back to school. I have a good mate who cares for me. I raise my child without the fear I felt constantly that they're never going to be good enough. My child has a kind heart and treats others with kindness. I'm proud of the life I've made. Recently, I got my sister back when she had her own reckoning with the organization's policies. She apologized for ostracizing me for years. I never thought badly of her for it because I knew she was still trying to conform to the beliefs she had been raised with. Apparently, even though I never said anything against JW's or their practices, my grandmother and aunt had begun calling me an apostate. I didn't know this before taking care of them while they were in hospice, but it wouldn't have mattered. They hadn't talked to me for years at that point anyway. I would have done so anyway because they're family and I value that over any difference in philosophies. So, maybe I am an apostate because I've always thought actions speak louder than words and my good life makes everything I was told about "the world" out to be a lie.
@david mathiesen good advice to this young man. Yet you still have to do what Jehovah God and Jesus Christ said to do... read it for yourself.. write it out... and Follow Jesus and go make Desciples. Be happy and love everyone as your neighbor. Pray, meditate and allow God's word to work in people...no human can force anyone to believe or join into something.
Raised in this cult. Knew it wasn't "the truth" from a young age. Left about 15 years ago. Lost everyone but it was the best and most freeing thing I have ever done.
I read so many comments like this with the same outcome and having the same feeling. I’ve always wondered if it was a true religion ?! why is it when people who leave! feel free and let go from their shackles
@@grandejohn4969 Bcuz they were in shackles.
@@HappyBeeTV-BeeHappy That's exactly it. It is a cult. I was raised in it too, similar story to op. They destroy a lot of lives and are far more harmful than any of their members will ever admit to themselves.
@@grumblegrim True. And that’s bcuz people who like to dominate others can’t understand people not wanting to be dominated. They think that domination and being dominated are a complimentary and life supportive pairing. So to them, there’s something wrong with people who will not be dominated by something or someone. Having a mind and will of your own seems wrong to them.
@@birdlynn417 What about just reading the bible?
Hello, Dr. Brown: I stumbled upon your video and absolutely enjoyed it for it's truth and pointing out what I did not know. I was a JW for 36 yrs. (I am now 76), 10 yrs. ago I was too sick to attend meetings. So, without me knowing it, I fade out. I began watching ex-JW videos out of curiosity, and I am glad I did. I was DF 32 yrs. ago, was reinstated one year later, and never forgot the pain of shunning, the loneliness and the deep pain in my heart. I was never the same. I've learned a lot, especially from your interview here. I am glad I'm out.
Stephanie so happy for you your health is more important. Blow over Jehovah!
@@cathymoses4700: To Cathy Moses: You can't type things like that.
Jehovah is God -- and will provide the strength to realize the new system of complete healing.
I understand, Stephanie. I’m 74 and I lost family too years ago. Never got over it but I have Jesus Who sees us through with Great Love though the experience of losing loved ones pops up in dreams and quiet moments. Be at Peace for you are loved. ❤
Idiot Jehovah is the god of freemasonry …
Thank you for sharing. My Dad was an elder he passed away two years ago. Before he passed away he didn't want to go after his death my brothers and I found letters he wrote to the society begging to be resinstad as an elder because his grown children not living at home was not witnesses. They were holding this against him.
I was raised as a jw and I was always unhappy. Always felt alone, harassed, judged and not good enough. I had already been dealing with depression and it got worse over the years. And it was a little before I hit my teen years I started questioning their teachings and doubting it.. Now I'm an ex jw and I'm still dealing with depression but I'm happier and my emotional, mental and physical health is better than it was before. And I'm happier now than I was in the organization. Leaving was the best thing that happened to me. Now I don't feel so trapped, and controlled anymore. And it's a great feeling.
Good for you! There is room for you and God's love for you so much more than anyone can imagine. The sense of belonging is strong in all of us, and we like to feel supported by our beliefs. So many Christian churches to choose from.
I started to listen to David Bercot also an ex witness but he has a videos here on TH-cam that have helped me beyond words because I really want to keep on my faith and understand what I had wrong and he explains everything so thoroughly I actually realized things that did not make sense to me and when I would ask their explanation did not convince me so listening and reading the passages in the Bible (not jws) it all makes sense for instance how Jesus went to preach to the demons. Jws could never answer the question satisfactory and other things like this then I started researching on my own that’s how I stumbled on David’s Bercot’s videos. Everything that I thought true it is not. I dislike the time I spent “learning” with jws but my faith for God and His Son hasn’t diminished so I continue. Sometimes life seems glum but God is merciful and loving and just concentrate on the good and keep up your faith. God knows your heart. Don’t give up.
Eric Wilson is another person who I watch. He shows the differences in jws teachings.
Good for you. Life still works outside of any religion, and God and Jesus live outside them too, everywhere, even still in the Bible. The Bible does not belong to only one church.
Great work I would not last 5 mins in a kingdom hall. It must be depressing talking about dying and Armageddon every day zzzzzzzzzzz.
🌿🌻Surrender your life to Jesus ! He will take away your depression. Focus on Jesus. God has invested power in the name of Jesus. His name is powerful !
I got out in 2002 and that was the best thing that ever happened to me
I got out in 2016, the best thing that ever happened to me
I got out in 2019 the truth has set me free , Jesus!
MI FAMILIA Y YO ESCAPAMOS DE ESA SECTA SATANICA ENFERMA EN 2016, POR LA GRACIA DE MI SEÑOR JESUCRISTO Y LA LIBERTAD ES BELLO.
I got out in 2014, praise God 🥰
Me too
I legit left ON New Years 2017. It was hard dealing with the shunning but I now know my Creator for who He really is: my Father.
There is NO god please grow up
It has been 2 years and am now a theist/agnostic. I wish i had left religion sooner honestly.
@@Dragontron20 check out our humanist community
i've been a jw my whole life & have recently woke up to the truth about this cult. i have my waking up story on my channel &&& also a secretly recorded elder's meeting where alllll they did was gaslight me & disregard my feelings & who i am as a black woman. soooo happy i'm finally free !!!
Was actually going to go listen to your channel, until I read what you said towards the very end about “disregarding your feelings as a black Woman “ ,
don’t feel like hearing any woke nonsense .
@@Francisco-dg4zf I realized that jws lean left they talk about all the wrong things the right is doing but they don’t realized that is the left with their wokeness and their brainwashing in school or mandates or gay rights and abortion rights. I don’t understand that.
Not that government is good none of them are good. All are greedy and corrupt but I never understood that about jws.
@@cghrios783 wow ! I thought I was the only one who has thought about that same exact thing lol I’m glad to hear I’m not the only one who’s pondered on that huge paradox . It’s so weird that on the outside they seem to lean conservative, but as you said : they use the same talking points the Left uses to condemn supposed “Christiandom”. I have proven this myself by asking family members of mine that are still very much active some basic questions in regards to the current issues we are facing in the country with the rise of this extreme woke leftism and their answers are either extremely vague or they seem to be apathetic to the issues at hand . Ex: I asked that family member about the current Abortion issue and what their opinion was on the matter . The response : Let both sides of the matter do and say whatever and quit worrying about it . 🥴🥴🥴 I was thinking. To myself saying : is that it. ? That’s all you have to say ? I thought you guys where pro life ? Oh … and you will never get them to admit they are pro life for some reason they refuse to use that term . It’s such a paradoxical worldview they live in
@@Francisco-dg4zf it’s funny how they say we don’t participate in politics (which really should be if they follow the Bible) but I know they always have opinions about the president (whoever he was on the right) but I think they confuse the word democrat with inclusion but they are ignorant about the facts (who did what) I would tell them well this president did this or that how can you say they are good? They did not like it.
With abortion for instance when hillary and obama pushed for abortion at moment of birth, that was a shocker to them. Or immigration why should everyone come here without permission. But they would be happy about the supposed changes the left has been doing to combat it.
When I said our economy is bad because we stop ourselves from advancing while all the other countries do not give a damn what they do to the earth. So many examples but more than anything I just wanted to know the truth, this is not it.
This video has SOOO many views to prove that there is a huge community of EX-JWs watching TH-cam videos.
Its what happens when u are not chosen by JAH but instead Satan's, ie his way that this system goes. From pagan holidays, demonic system and government. You all are following the steps of the rich man, Pilate; in due time u all will know personally the Angel that killed the 185,000 assyrian soldiers in one night. That'll be u all, government, all unrepentant gays and the rest cheating on wives, with false religion. My GOD is the ONE that King David calls JAH in the Psalms. David has war all who's God not JAH. Enjoy the reckoning... I shall clap vigorously.
@@manfredmann5385 Troll comment. How could one clap to a bad situation.
Yep!!!!... tons are leaving
What are you sharing ? No idea.
And current JWs
I was in this church for over 20yrs, born and raised in it. It wasn’t easy leaving but I finally managed andI found the true gospel of Jesus Christ and it changed my life. If / when you leave this cult continue seeking the truth and the Almighty God will help you find it. I thank God everyday I got out . If your family is still there continue to pray for the eyes of their understanding to be opened God answers prayer. My sisters got out after me.
You said you found the 'True Gospel of Jesus Christ.'
There are 30,000 different Denominations out there.
Which 'True Gospel' did you end up choosing?
The church of Christ is where my grandmother went
Wonderful bless you
God bless you ❤
@@marcussaint8247The denominations of Christianity has nothing to do with finding the truth of Jesus. It’s reading and researching for yourself.
Watchtower also strongly discourages higher education. It's rare to mind a JW with a college education. Most JWs are poor. It's sad.
Here in Belfast from 1971-1978 I went through Grammar School education with the son of the head man of Watchtower Society in all Ireland. His son then went on to university and is presently a university lecturer. Bear in mind that the Watchtower Press at that time was telling their people that the world was going to end in 1975. The hypocrisy is staggering.
@devolver You've got it. They're selling a bill of goods. They're hustling gold bricks and the Brooklyn Bridge. When they knock my door, I don't see poor lost souls, I see the deceived who are taking others to the same Hell they are headed for. You only have to talk to them, I have had them agree with everything I tell them then they send the pastor and his wife to my door who between them can't answer the same questions I asked their followers. It really is pathetic.
This is very common with fundamentalists churches. Evangelicals Pentecostals have almost the same mindset. University not necessarily makes you smarter. Mormon have a high value for higher education, but look at them, they believe in a comic book.
@@LibrePensador12 I would describe myself as a Fundamentalist Pentecostal since all manner of nutjob has latched onto the term Evangelical. I do take issue that Pentecostalists somehow in your mind devalue education.
Since God's Word encourages the faithful to improve our minds I fail to see where you get this notion.
Please expand on this as I am anxious to know why belief in the Gifts of the Spirit, as taught biblically, in some way makes those like me like the JW cult?
@@sledge1960 most Pentecostal I know are uneducated people. Most of them reject science. I prefer Jehovah's Witnesses, they're open to have a discussion, they're very educated people --not necessarily academic-- they have good morals. I don't want anything with Pentecostals, I used to be part of a Pentecostal church, and I don't want to get back to that church.
They are in a steep decline due to access to information they can no longer control.
This is same reason why a lot of people are leaving islam.
I just checked and theyre membershop is in incline....
@@Anonymous-ik5fh decline?
I would highly recommend kingdom of the cults by Walter Martin which deals with jw teaching as compared to Christian doctrine
Would also note jws did not exist until 1931 they are splinter group from the Bible students Rutherford as their second president
When I had my first Cancer op, when I was still "barely in", the Anaesthetist a very kind man, said, it is unlikely you will need blood, but are you aware that your blood card allows you to have all the components of a sandwich, but you are not allowed to make and eat the sandwich. He further stated that they will honour my declaration. He also said he has experienced many unnecessary deaths due to this policy, and it sits very heavily on the hearts of all Medical staff. I said to him, thankyou, I never considered these points.
Wow, that is a fantastic analogy! Wise words.
I am going to use that analogy now
Eccellent preaching work to that Neo- jw
Medical Staff are the ones who perform abortions as a form of birth control.
Blood is complex and unique. There are uncertainties and dangers associated with blood transfusion. Reference works state that there are some fifteen to nineteen known blood group systems. Regarding only one of these, the Rh blood group system, a recent book about blood said that “at the present time nearly three hundred different Rh types may theoretically be recognized.”
Dr. Herbert Silver, from the Blood Bank and Immunohematology Division of the Hartford (Connecticut) Hospital, wrote that, considering only those blood factors for which tests can be performed, “there is a less than 1 in 100,000 chance of giving a person blood exactly like his own.”
A person might decline blood simply because it is essentially an organ transplant that at best is only partially compatible with his own blood.
At a meeting of the American College of Surgeons, Dr. Robert J. Baker reported that the ‘danger of adverse effects from blood is far greater than previously believed with one out of 20 patients developing a reaction.’
The textbook Hematology contains this table:
Types of Transfusion Reactions
Febrile
Leukocyte antibodies
Platelet antibodies
Pyrogens
Allergic
Hemolytic
(incompatible transfusion)
Transmission of disease
Serum hepatitis
Malaria
Syphilis
Cytomegalovirus infection
Gross bacterial contamination
Cardiac overload
Citrate intoxication
Potassium intoxication
Abnormal bleeding
Incompatible transfusion
Massive transfusion
Isosensitization
Transfusion hemosiderosis
Miscellaneous
Thrombophlebitis
Air embolism
Injection of foreign material
You can contract a disease from as little as one millionth of a milliliter of infected blood.
Professor H. Busch, a director of transfusion medicine, ended a report to a convention of North German surgeons: For its optimum biological value donated blood should be transfused within twenty-four hours; after that the metabolic risks increase because of changes in the stored blood. On the other hand, blood must be stored for at least seventy-two hours or else it may pass on syphilis. And even tests to identify syphilitic blood are not a safeguard, for they do not detect syphilis in its early stages. There is no need to describe here the damage that can come to a person receiving syphilis-infected blood, as well as the harm to his or her family.
Bible-based objection to blood can be accommodated in most cases by the use of alternative therapies.
If a patient has lost a great deal of blood during surgery or through an accident what fundamentally is needed to prevent shock and death is to replace the volume of fluid lost. A person might lose up to 1.5 liters (over three pints) of blood and still have over 60 percent of his red cells, an amount adequate for tissue nourishment. But the person needs more fluid in his vessels to keep the red blood cells circulating. The British journal Anaesthesia reported that non blood solutions do this more effectively than do transfusions of blood.
Many persons believe that a transfusion will immediately enhance the blood’s oxygen-carrying capacity, but a recent editorial in Anaesthesia made this significant point: “It is worth remembering also that the haemoglobin of stored, citrated red cells is not fully available for the transfer of oxygen to the tissues for some 24 hours after transfusion . . . ; rapid blood transfusion must therefore be regarded primarily as a mere volume expander in the initial stages.” Researchers at Ohio State University found that the reason for this is that chemical changes occur in stored blood. Their investigation showed that blood stored more than ten days “does not improve or may even worsen oxygen delivery immediately after transfusion.” And they found that the oxygen delivery was still below normal twenty-four hours later.
I was D/FD at age 77 for apostasy, whereas I had been discussing many points of disagreement with elders and circuit overseers ,and agreeing to disagree, until recently NO DISCUSSION WITHOUT CONSEQUENCE
Dear Hudson, l hope your experience was not too traumatic especially if you have family members involved in that group.
I hope that you also accept Jesus Christ as your personal Lord and Savior. With all of your knowledge of the Bible You ought to be able to separate Watchtower doctrine from the New Testament.
Hudson l really hope you do good study of the New Testament and do not throw out the truth of Christ along with the Watchtower stuff.
I do wish you well and wish l can help you if l can.
@@jbjoeychic Thanks Bron, I am fine thanks, have many Christian friends, fine people, bat as for me I am done with religion
What were the disagreements?
@@manfredmann5385 Of Many, 1/. Only Baptised JW's will be saved, 2/. Jesus is Michael,3/.Dates, how do they know, 1925 specifically which they claim was not a prophecy, they BUILT a house.4/. 1975 was the publishers misunderstanding,5/. The elastic 1914..6/. Child Abuse, why not give up the files,7/. Shall I go on?
I was in this culture for over 50 years. I was a born in. Glad I am gone from this CULT
I was born into this cult. I started questioning it all in my teens, but remember even at a younger age I knew something as not right. It messes up your mind. I got into drugs and hated myself. I started in a new fresh direction around 23 and never looked back. Happy they are falling apart. My Mom and one sister are still involved in it.
your lucky , my friend killed them selves after being shunned
@@karfomachet7265 believe me I wanted to but something kept me from doing it. God!
@@ernestbrooks3569 so why did it not help my friend ? or are u special
@@karfomachet7265 No special than you or anyone else. Perhaps your friend spirit wanted to go. My spirit wanted to stay.
@@karfomachet7265 dude no fucking way honestly that’s what i felt like doing but because i was really fascinated about traveling after visiting Mexico and seeing another culture it just opened my eyes that there’s more to see than what these people say. Im so sorry for your friend i hope you guys see each other again man. My condolences
Excellent interview and as a recent ex JW that was in the organization/cult I’ve got a lot of dark stories within my family being a physically and mentally abused child of a father who served as a elder (leader of the Congregation) for close to 50 years. The double life he led was horrific and the religion is entirely focused on fear/doomsday theology that basically threaten’s their members and weaponizes taking away their families if they question or commit a act of sin like your guest explained in a excellent truthful manner. In the last 3 years Watchtower has sold over a thousand Kingdom Halls at bottom prices and take the money in many cases to pay off with gag orders the hundreds upon hundreds of cases of Child Sexual Abuse they have badly lost.
I could go on and on, but the warning James Beverly gives to get out of the cult and for others interested in studying with the possibility of joining the organization to avoid them, as a veteran JW I urgently agree with all his warnings.
@@birdlynn417 quali occhi ti ha aperto riguardo alle profezie ,tutte le date che sono risultate false che non si sono mai avverate sopratutto quella del 1975 che ha rovinato migliaia di famiglie ,E adesso dicono che alcuni avevano compreso male la profezia del 1975 quando ci sono riviste che lo confermano, ti rendi conto che non è una religione ma una società che va a braccetto con BABILONIA LA GRANDE ha dato merito a l'ONU in una svegliatevi del 8 SETTEMBRE del 1991 (CONTROLLA ACCERTATEVI DELLE COSE PIU IMPORTANTI I BEREANI SONO ANDATI A VERIFICARE SE LE COSE STAVANO VERAMENTE COSI E BIBLICO )CHE L'ONU PORTERA PACE E SICUREZZA ETERNA E 1992 SI SONO ASSOCIATI ,APRITE GLI OCCHI CONTROLLATE ACCERTATEVI DI OGNI COSA .DA L'ITALIA .
Le sale VENDUTE in tutto il mondo ammontano più di 6200 FILIARI e sale congresso per risarcire le vittime di pedofilia sui minori in Australia in Inghilterra Belgio America, Olanda Nuova Zelanda La polizia ha fatto irruzione nelle FILIARI per accedere a documenti segreti sulla pedofilia nascosta, stanno affrontando centinaia di processi in tutto il mondo soprattutto in Australia, qui anche in ITALIA I GIORNALI PARLANO DI PEDOFILIA NELLE CONGREGAZIONI E ANCHE LA TELEVISIONE NE DANNO NOTIZIE ,Ma il 90x100 dei T G si rifiutano di credere solo pochi che come me si sono accertati come fecero i Bereani si accettarono se le cose stavano veramente saluti da Italia.
@@birdlynn417 REAL BIBLICAL PROPHECY?! You mean like the 8 times they set a date for the return of Christ?? Lets make one thing perfectly clear, under mosaic law, every Jw prophet would be stoned to death for the false predictions they made.
Duet 18:22 New World Translation
"When the prophet speaks in the name of Jehovah and the word is not fulfilled or does not come true, then Jehovah did not speak that word. The prophet spoke it presumptuously. You should not fear him.’
On another note Charles taze Russell claimed to be fluent in Greek in Hebrew, he was tried in court and they proved he didn't in fact speak Hebrew or Greek, he is a liar and a false prophet.
The LORD's name is not "Jehovah" it is יהוה YHVH the Hebrew language doesn't even have the "J" sound, the "J" sound it is from Germanic language.
@@birdlynn417 Hi . Try Parable if the vineyard channel or other Torah observant Christians although I can’t recommend any other channels. PV Also believes in the end times prophecies in revelation , YHWH and Jesus as seperate beings aka Jesus as Gods son, everlasting life in paradise on Earth as bible teaches. No governing body or big money making corporation or other witness stuff which is very off putting. And studying straight from bible as well as lost books which is really fascinating. Was once a witness for 5 years and the controlling measures they impose, some of their beliefs aka Jesus has already returned invisibly to name a few are questionable and leaves their followers open to being deceived, which is what Christians are warned against.
@@jen7834 Thanks, Jen, I only studied with JW for 4 months, then totally left any studies with them. I found bible study interesting, until all the "other" weirdness that they teach outside of biblical teachings and truth. What a strange cult, I think it attracts people who are lonely, and who don't have a family, and who want to be told what to think. I am far from that and much too universal to surrender my mind or heart to such a controlling cult. The Parable channel looks interesting to me. Thanks.
My mom became a JW 14 years ago. She has totally changed. I don't know how to help her out of this cult. I hate to see what's its done to her and how she has changed. I miss mom the way she was. She used to be happy, fun, and loving to all people. She isn't anymore.
So sorry. Maybe she felt lonely and now feels that she has a family to join and belong too. They are good at making you believe that you are loved and supported by the family of JW. But to throw away your own conscience for them is unspeakable.
Sorry, I'll pray for you
The most dangerous thing to a high control group like the JWs is the free exchange of ideas. Get her to think.
Don't stop trying; study the Bible and prove her where she is wrong. One being why did they translated the Bible wrong.
That is not the fault of the witnesses. I am a Jehovahs witness and we have fun and we are kind to everyone, and by the way we go to movies, and concerts ,we have barbecues and we dance just like everyone else we just don't drink ourselves silly ,we don't swear or try to sleep with our neighbors husband. Maybe you need to be more supportive of your mother Maybe that is making her sad
It's a work based religion it's a corporation disguised as a religion that's basically what it is
I was raised as a JW. They always say that if you have doubts to do your research. But they only want you to do research in publications they provide. If a person sincerely does their research and comes to a different belief, and if they are vocal about it, the WT will disfellowship them (shun them).
Go ahead celebrate christmas, eat that easter egg, go to birthday parties, do what you want in your own bedroom its no one's business.
Study higher criticism, it's the scientific analysis of the Bible.
Well that is not true I did research and still am even after I became a witness. And you will not be shunned for not wanting to join.You are disfellowshiped after committing serious sins and before disfellowshipping you get a chance to repent it, is really your choice just don't commit a serious sin .that seems easy enough. But if you do become a witness you can't be allowed to stay if you are committing adultery and you keep doing after you are counseled .makes sense to me
@paula You will be shunned if after you get baptized, at some point you decide to leave. Even your own family-if they are TJs-they will stop talking to you. Just to clarify, you decide to leave because you don’t agree with some beliefs. It’s not that you have committed any sin.
@@paulajay473 unfortunately, you picked easy examples to sort of justify. But if an active JW no longer want to be a JW, they will be shunned, no other option exists. That is coercion, plain and simple. It is very sad that a religion needs to resort to those tactics to retain membership.
It's very sad to hear every time someone loses their way with this cults.
May God bless you all...
People lose their way all the time. Come on, quit blaming the JW. There are people walking away from church every day, yet do not make the headlines that the JW do.
Religious folks walking away from a lifelong scam gives me hope for humanity
I agree, religion is a dead loss, that's why I and many like me have a Personal Relationship with Jesus Christ, the Son of the Living God. Religion really is a scam, Jesus Christ is the genuine article.
@@sledge1960
But you have no personal relationship to Jehovah which is the God of Jesus.
“I am ascending to my Father and your Father and to my God and your God,” (John 20:17)
@@josephtucker9612 Oh but I have sir, since Jesus Christ, Yeshua Ha'mashiach is the second personage of the Triune godhead He is thus unquestionably God. You take John out of context. You stopped reading too soon. John 20:28 - 'And Thomas answered and said unto Him , My Lord and my God'. Continue reading until the end of the chapter. Now that's from a translation of the scripture whose translators are academically qualified and whose credentials are given in the Introduction to the text.
If it was good enough for Thomas, who walked personally with the Lord, it is good enough for me.
As Isaiah said 'Come let us reason together'.
@@sledge1960
The development of the trinity doctrine was forced on Christendom by Constantine back in the 4th century. Constantine was a pagan king that knew nothing about the bible. He wanted to unite his empire so he decided the winners on issues Christendom had at the time. He decided the Father and Son was of the same substance but nothing was decided on the holy spirit at the time. He also decided that Jesus was a god-man as a compromise of Gnostic and Christian beliefs. As a result the trinity doctrine is contradictory to the bible. Since there was no trinity proof texts in the bible, trinitarians modified their Latin and Greek manuscripts when copies were made but those forgeries are exposed by earlier copies. That is why most of those forgeries are not in modern translations today.
Colleges teach the history of the trinity. The students learns how it developed over time and begins to think the bible is a hoax. The trinity is a hoax. If you are a pastor teaching your flock the trinity then you are a false prophet according to the bible.
Deut. 13:1-4: “In case a prophet or a dreamer of a dream arises in your midst and does give you a sign or a portent, and the sign or the portent does come true of which he spoke to you, saying, ‘LET US WALK AFTER OTHER GODS (Trinity idol), WHOM YOU HAVE NOT KNOWN, AND LET US SERVE THEM,’ you must not listen to the words of that prophet or to the dreamer of that dream, because Jehovah your God is testing you to know whether you are loving Jehovah your God with all your heart and all your soul. After Jehovah your God you should walk, and him you should fear, and his commandments you should keep, and to his voice you should listen, and him you should serve, and to him you should cling.”
False prophets turns worshipers from the true God Jehovah that Jews worshiped to other gods like the trinity idol. THE JEWS HAVE NOT KNOWN THE TRINITY.
@@sledge1960
Thomas had said (verse :25) that unless something happened he would “not believe.” What was it that Thomas refused to believe? Was it that he refused to believe that Jesus was equally God with the Father?
If the disciples had learned, upon seeing the resurrected Jesus, that he was God, certainly they would have indicated this! But notice, neither before nor after receiving Holy Spirit (:22) did they kneel or do any act of worship such as one would certainly do upon coming aware of being in the presence of God!
Notice that the disciples who had seen Jesus earlier did not tell Thomas that Jesus was God (:25)! This is an incredible oversight if they had really believed they had seen God! Certainly, if they had discovered that Jesus was really God when they saw him resurrected, they would have talked of nothing else!
If, on the other hand, they had already known that Jesus was God even before seeing his resurrected form, then Thomas, too, would have already known about it and certainly would not have meant: “Unless I see ... the print of nails [etc.] ... I will not believe [Jesus is God].”
No, the context of John 20:24, 25, and 29 shows that Thomas refused to believe that Jesus had been resurrected from the dead.
Certainly, being resurrected from the dead does not make you God. Other persons in the Scriptures had been resurrected from the dead before (and after) Jesus, and no one, for a moment, ever suspected them of being God! In fact, being resurrected from the dead would have been used as evidence that a person was not God, since God has always been immortal and cannot die in the first place!
Furthermore, Jesus’ statements before and after Thomas’ exclamation (“my Lord and my God!”) show not only that Jesus wanted Thomas to believe that he had been resurrected to life but that he could not possibly be God!!
Jesus’ command to Thomas to literally touch his wounds and actually see his hands proves that he meant, “See, I am the same person you saw die, but now I am alive ... be believing that I have been resurrected to life” (not, “see, these wounds prove I am God ... be believing that I am God”).
Notice that the reason given for Thomas to “be believing” is that he can see Jesus’ hands and their wounds. Likewise, after Thomas says “My Lord and my God,” Jesus reaffirms that Thomas now believes (as did the other disciples after seeing - Jn.20:20) that Jesus has been resurrected (not that he is God) “because you have seen me” (:29). Certainly Jesus wouldn’t mean, “you believe I am God because you can see me.” Instead, this is proof that Jesus, Thomas, John, and the other disciples did not believe Jesus was equally God with the Father because John himself has made it manifestly clear that “no one [no human] has ever seen God” - 1 John 4:12
Therefore, since no man has ever directly seen God (who is the Father only - John 5:37, 6:46; 17:1, 3) but men have only indirectly “seen” God through representations such as visions, dreams, etc., Jesus is saying: “Believe I have been resurrected and that I am obviously not God because you see me directly (and even touch me so you can be sure I’m not a vision or an indirect representation).”
Thomas did not bow down, worship, etc. upon learning that it was really Jesus and saying 'my lord and my god.' He could not have just discovered that he was in the presence of God and acted the way he did! It’s also obvious that Jesus did not understand Thomas to be calling him equally God with the Father in heaven. But did John, in spite of the incredible contradiction of a previous statement like 1 John 4:12 and at John 1:18 that “no man hath seen God at any time,” somehow think that Thomas understood Jesus to be God?
Well, no other disciple of Jesus ever made a statement to him which could honestly be construed as meaning Jesus is God! So, if John had, somehow, understood Thomas’ statement that way, he certainly would have provided some follow-up clarification and emphasis in his own comments.
Surely John would have shown Thomas prostrating himself before “God” and worshiping him but he doesn’t!. So how does John summarize this incident? - “But these were written that you may believe [Believe what? That Jesus is God? Here, then, is where it should have been written if John really believed such a thing:] that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God.” - John 20:31
So it is clear from context alone that neither Jesus, nor John, nor Thomas considered the statement at John 20:28 to mean that Jesus is equally God with the Father. Remember this is the same Gospel account that also records Jesus’ last prayer to the Father at John 17:1, 3: “Father,.... This is eternal life: to know thee who alone art truly God, and Jesus Christ whom thou hast sent.” - NEB. It is obvious from this scripture alone that Jesus and the writer of the Gospel of John do not believe Jesus is equally God with the Father.
“I am ascending to my Father and your Father and to my God and your God,” (John 20:17)
Do trinitarians think Jesus was going to ascend to a trinity god?
Jesus calls the Father his God but the Father never calls Jesus his God. Where in the bible do trinitarians get the idea that Jesus is equally God with the Father?
Rev 3:12 says “...I will write upon him the name of my God and the name of the city of my God, the New Jerusalem that descends out of heaven from my God, and my own new name.”
So after Jesus ascended to heaven, his Father is his God.
As you said the expression “My Lord and my God” would still have to harmonize with the rest of the Scriptures. From the rest of the scriptures and the context we cannot conclude Thomas meant Jesus was the Almighty God.
i got out this week.
im happy for the next yearbook number revealing.
May the Lord Jesus Christ help you rebuild your life
@@blessingsaflow4854 naa i pray to satan now
Congratulations
I left the JW's in 1984 when they changed their Bible, John 1:1-4. I have not been allowed to speak with my parents since. Who has blocked me from speaking with them? Well my parents. So sad.
Very sad!!!
That's too weird.
That is crazy!
Changed their Bible? Huh?
@@RiskeFactor What do you mean, changed their bible?
Best news I've heard in a while. I only hope many have found the truth of the gospel of Jesus Christ.
I did, and I know some others like me that got it.
Out of the pot into the frying pan. Smh
@@anthonyshannon6744 Out of the darkness and into the light.
He is right on a lot of this, but DEFINITELY guard your body and your children's. They do not like to call the police and make themselves look bad when allegations of sexual abuse happen. BEWARE
That is everywhere.
@@birdlynn417 doesn't make it right.
@@kristinaallard7947 Of course it is not right, no body is saying that it is. But to point blame on one religion or organization about this sick matter is rediculous.
@@birdlynn417
Might be everywhere, but it’s prolific in “gods” organization, more so than in the Catholic Church. And the JW’s lied and tried to cover it up when before the Australian high commission. Do the research, your life depends on it!
@@superdave1263 I am not part of this organization that doesn't even call itself a church.
i was raised in this, i even married a disfellowshipped person had two beautiful children it wasn't until about five years later that i was disfellowshipped my mother sent me a letter in the mail telling me he would no longer speak to me or see me she didn't have the guts to tell me to my face i in return called her and told her she wouldn't be allowed to see her grand children, now she is 97 years old and in a nursing home and i'm the one taking care of her needs no one goes to see her i have control over her finances someone from the kingdom hall has it for her health because they convinced her i wouldn't respect her wishes regarding blood transfusion, but they are not getting money out of her anymore and the elder visited her and was asking for money, my goal is to spend as much of my mums money on her care as i can so they get less when she passes away
As a JW you can ask questions, but you cannot question the answer they give you. Once they give the answer from WT that's the end of the discussion. If WT does not supply an answer you are to leave it in Jehovah's hands, and not get ahead of the Governing Body which is leading group spiritually, and you are to wait on them, perhaps one day they will publish something that will answer it. If you push your luck, you will booted out of their book club!
I would still hold my own personal beliefs.
@@birdlynn417 then you wouldn't be a true believer according to Watchtower standards. You are essentially forced to conform. This is what leads to crisis of the conscience in many JWs and cause them to leave.
@@livingoutloud4210 I understand, thank you. There has to be room for individual differences, hobbies and interests. I like being my own self, not a clone to everyone else, yet do want a group to belong to too. But definitely NOT the JW.
Correct. I love you delightfully humors answer! And yes, if your lucky, you'll get booted out of their "book club"!😄
They complain about the Pope, but the governing body is the same as the Pope. .
I was born in August 26th, 1976 and wasn't supposed to make it to Kindergarten. Here we are 45 years later. So happy to be free of that Cult!
Bible says hate what is bad...LOVE what is good. God don't like ugly! LOL
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When I was in the Kingdom Hall back in the seventies it had the green Bible and I said ask my mom I said mom why can I use this Bible why do I need to use this one she used to say well they're the same it doesn't matter and I said no it's not I said the wording is different how can I talk to people if they have their own Bible and the proof things and I was only 13 when I asked that then I said why do we need to watch tower so we can study at meetings when we just use the Bible oh no we need to watch tower to understand the Bible that's what my mom used to say so I had a critical mind when I was 13 years old thank God now I'm a follower of Jesus Amen Brothers
He is absolutely correct, little emphasis on salvation by grace. Practically unheard of teaching. Grace is our ONLY hope!
Dear TemperamentalTart,
I have never met any Jehova’s Witness who has a clue what “grace” is.
Grace is the unexpected, undeserved and unconditional love of God.
You will notice that the word “grace” has been completely removed from the New World Translation. (Not a translation!)
@@georgesotiroff5080
Yes sir, it's only mentioned as "undeserved kindness". There is no weight behind the expression. Very works based...very exhausting.
When I left the cult, I was asked by a hardcore JW how was I to serve God? "the only way to serve him is preaching" in her words. I said, your really think that by writing letters which no one wants to read you'll be saved? The only way to get saved is by grace and the merit is for Yeshua who gave up his life for us the humanity
Amen! Salvation by grace through faith and not by works. Ephesians 2: 8 - 9
True. They are constantly concerned on whether they are doing enough preaching and attending meeting to be considered worthy of life. Failure or slacking off in that area brings on snubbing and lack of respect from other members. This can lead to a feeling of extreme social isolation since you are not allowed to have friends who are not JWs. In short, if you start gradually falling away from their organization their cruel hostile reaction will provide a strong push in that direction. Even worse, if your close family are JWS, they will feel obligated to fanatically join in. There are also racism and ethnic hatreds held by certain members and expressed against other JWS . You actually begin to wonder what the hell such people are doing there, and how they can be preaching one thing while feeling another. Not a good place to be, since such examples can have a bad influence on good character.
1Cor 15:33
3Do not be deceived: “Bad company corrupts good character.”
When I left Bible study 📖 I did not care about loosing friends because I never looked at them as real friends ( I saw FAKE), so I did not get close or expect real friends- it was so easy to walk away because I see and noticed everything from the beginning!!
Thank you. Wish I would have caught this live. I'm an Ex JW and have been a Christian for almost 40 years now and active in Christian apologetics for at least 25 years.
Australian Royal Commission CASE STUDY 29.
This was a good listen ... real calm no anger you just broke down what the cult is and spot on accurate
I love this content.
good video.
Thank you two for your hard work in researching about these cults, so that we today may have an idea of the facts about these type of groups.
much appreciated.
It is sad that these members are obviously deceived from the truth.
blessings
I met Ray Franz, what a man of God he became. His book was so helpful as I worked with many great co workers who were JW
Amen - im an exJW also sister!
Jesus change the hearts
@@HenriettaMRiley same here👍👍👍
Ray never became a Trinitarian! His wife, Cynthia, is now dead, too; having suffered a massive heart failure, December 29th, 2013
@@alexanderv7702
No but he neither believed that Christ was a created being either....
I was brought up with Jehovahs witnesses and I still have up to the most recent publications and watch tower this year. At the end of the day if I want to know about Jehovah, his qualities, personality,
his laws and commandments then I turn to the bible.
Hi guys I was brought up a witness and I was looking for indrescion about the cult but you are so accurate and you have gone to the right source Jim peton well done
After 65yrs I started to fade still believer though then something rocked the love of my life sadly at the same time he passed sway. So I am left with no one there has been no love shown not even a word of condolences at a time I have meeded them the most. I have committed no sin other then refusing to attend the meetings because of an elders actions. I'm not prepared to leave it in Jehovah's hands. And yes I personally know ones who have give their life to the blood policy. I am now in a state of shock
Dear sister, I'm so sorry you have been going through all of that.
My husband and I are fading now..we began waking up together to some Scriptural truths a couple years ago by Holy Spirit and reading Scriptures in context (I was born-in and am almost 30 now.)
I have seen the lack of love/socialization lately too.
My best friend (also JW) who I grew up with (and has no idea I'm fading) didn't even invite me to her wedding..I guess because of COVID but she didn't do it on Zoom either.
(Gatherings are allowed in my state but the Organization has inspired fear into meeting in person with anyone not 💉)
I can't imagine losing my husband and going through this alone. My heart goes out to you. ❤
I pray you find peace and joy and comfort in the true promises of the Scriptures and in following Jesus. 🙏
@@Nica-Ra-Wata musica, your words offer no consolation to this widow.
Maybe you may wish to offer belated condolences: let us do it together.
We both offer our sincerest condolences for the death of your life's soulmate.
@@alishaba- you are ridiculous. No one can stop you from attending anything on Zoom. It's up to you to get access. You need to stop exaggerating and lying to make yourself the victim
@@trkstatrksta8410 There was no lie I told in my comment. I'll stand before Christ on that one.
But if there's something I said that you don't understand what I meant, please feel free to ask and I will explain.
I personally realized through a study of Scriptures and by God's Spirit that the organization was lying to me. I never once lied to or about the organization or anyone in it.
I never even watched a single exjw video until after I was certain from the Bible that Jesus is the Truth and not an organization.
It was God Himself who opened my eyes to realize I believed things as a Witness that contradict Scriptures. And all I had to do was simply ask Him for understanding and read His Word, instead of putting my trust in the publications of man.
And if you don't realize yet that it is Jesus that is the narrow Way and the Truth, then I pray that someday you will. 🙏
@@trkstatrksta8410I think you didn’t understand the comment the person you’re criticizing did. Read carefully and stop being so offended because someone says something against your sect.
Occult definition to me is not being able to leave without punishment or being cut off from your friends or family. High amount if suicide and use of psychological medicine within the organization due to depression.
And the rest of the world? How about all the suicides from people who aren't saved, or have no religion, or faith? Yes, there are much more suicides by non religious people than religious people. Look it up.
@@birdlynn417 It’s the Jehovah’s Witnesses out of all other religions that have a high suicide rate. Look it up.
I thought I was saving lives as a JW. Now I know, I save lives keeping people out.
I recently escaped and got saved. I read crisis of conscience and Christian Freedom by Ray Franz. Jim Penton apocalypse delayed and some other exjw books before I believed the gospel and received the Lord Jesus Christ as my saviour. I had a lot of deprogramming to do and resistance to the gospel at first. Some big problems are the low view of sin and the annihilation doctrine tends to push some towards atheism or suicide if they don’t feel good enough. As stated the Translation is really biased towards the Arian Heresy every verse on the Deity of Jesus Christ is perverted and Jehovah inserted at places in the New Testament that hide the gospel and the need to turn to Christ for salvation. KJB was vital for me to accept that Jesus is God the Son.
Thankful for you. So many things said of Jehovah in Isaiah that are also said of, or applied to Jesus in the new testament.
@@wingtipsmith1 Isaiah chapter 44, verse 6
I took a Jehovah's witness to a challenge. I used my king James bible to refute him. I took him to a verse where Jesus himself was speaking. He couldn't deny the truth that was in front of him. After that, he was unsettling and ask me to give him back his kingdom hall materials. And never spoke to me again. That was the end of that.
try some love next time
Really? That material is free 😂😂
You'd have become in his eyes a 'bad association'. And as such he'd not be allowed to associate with you. Yet another JW double standard.
Nah, I don’t that’s how it went down Duante Carter. Y’all just had a typical argument over theology and he shut down thinking you were wrong.
@@memcrew1 😂😂😂... yoooooo.
The birthday thing is incorrect too because the bible mentions that Job's sons celebrated their birthday every year; the bible said each one on his day. But they somehow have missed that scripture.
The y miss any scripture that is not "spoon fed" to them through their organizational literature.
What do yu know the verse- I will read job - very interesting - I really do not care about the JW
Wish someone set up
A real bible study - yu do not need to know the time or day
Jesus told on the mount the signs
The greatest time would be taking about god and His son
Enjoying your life and helping others - most of all doing this not hurting others ( children )
Learning about a verse conversation about the verse
This is really interesting and learning can be fun with the word money involved - free living - prayer to god through his son
Sorry with out money involved - everyone make yur money for yur families and learning is free
@@jeanwells2598 Job 1:4.
It says circuit on his own day - after all had they say then Job did brunt offering to god for all his children boys and girls - interesting
I missed this Live Stream but I’m so interested in this. Want to reach the JW for Jesus. Thanks Dr. Brown🥰
Amen! I used to meet them at their carts, but due to COVID they no longer do cart ministry.
@@jesuschristsaves9067 what's the point of having people trade one myth for another? Consider, like I have, that some people are as content living within the simulation of their choosing as you are living yours. If, however, a JW is truly miserable within the confines of the organization they'll eventually find their way out, hopefully towards the realization that the whole of Christianity is perpetuated racket or towards a less structured and controlled worship if they still have the need for comforting falsehoods.
@@omarmunoz5787
You’re coming from the assumption that your worldview is the correct one and that by continual pursuit of truth and knowledge will lead to a godless perspective. You’re also coming from the assumption that they are miserable which contrary to that many love being Jehovah’s witnesses.
Few points;
Firstly, what I’m trying to introduce to the Jehovah’s witnesses is not a “less structured” form of worship but rather truth, as Jesus stated in John 14:6. This means introducing the true Jesus Christ of scripture and not a later developed carbon copy which isn’t rooted in the Bible nor history. If I believe the Bible to be true and authoritative, then as someone to hold true to what I believe I will give said people the truth to the saving of their souls. I find it very strange that you feel I should operate my life a certain way and use your relative experience as the reference point. With all due respect I’m not prepared to sacrifice my intellect nor my salvation for someone’s opinion or worldview.
Secondly, if you’re coming from the perspective of an agnostic, well then I’m sorry, but I’m not willing to take a step back into uncertainty because I’m convinced at the data that Christ is the truth. If you’re coming from the perspective of an atheist, well then I’ll never come to that conclusion and adopt a belief system that is contradictory and without evidence.
Lastly, though the Bible is categorized as myth and some of the aspects in it are mythic, that doesn’t make it untrue. I could give my life story and though I have provided no evidence or good reason for you to believe it, it wouldn’t invalidate my story. Yet the historical data shows that a man named Jesus was crucified under Pontus Pilate, was dead, and was seen three days later by many eyewitnesses.
But thanks for the post.
@@jesuschristsaves9067 What exactly do you mean by "historical data "? Are you saying that you have evidence for this extraordinary claim? If you have then it will be a first. Why should anyone care what is written in the bible?
@@jerryoconnor4572
Why should anyone care what I post?
Left in 2017 after 18 years my Lord and savior Christ Jesus opened my eyes ....no more blood sacrifices anymore false doctrine and professey iam so happy knowing the real truth of our lord and Savior Christ Jesus Amen
I LOVE Jehovah God but left the religion that claim to follow Jehovah God because the religion NO LONGER have love as the government none baptized members begin to out number the REAL baptized members! Yes, our religion was OVERTAKEN by the military! And these none baptized members are wicked and run MANY out of the religion...and even kill them if they can. The TRUE God, Jehovah is no longer with the religion as he left many of his people in times past for NOT loving him and each other.
Soo good to see you Dr.Brown God bless and keep you safe 🙏
absolutely, over the years they got worse and worse, I know, I pioneered 16 years
Let's all pray that many, many other poor sheep can be rescued from the clutches of this Evil and this Dangerous Cult!!
i agree in prayer with you. many may be rescued from this cult ,and many other cults.
The parking lot of the only Kingdom Hall in my town is empty every Sunday. Due to the pandemic in part initially. But it is still empty. An answer to prayer.
Great, frank discussion. Thank you, guys.
True religion don't shunned their love ones.
1st Cor.6:1-13;2nd John 9-11
Amen God said love your enemies as thyself so who is them to feel that it's right to shun somebody because they think diffently.
I guess people finally saw through the lies, false doctrine.
Blow over Jehovah and your pathetic shunning and Armageddon.
Love you, Mike, and love your show.
I noticed that you briefly dismissed the (what you seemed to regard as relatively lesser) sins of elements of your own denomination in their false teachings or prophecies, perhaps relegating them as not institutional falsehoods, but rather individual anomalies.
I have to admit that the reason I shy away from Pentecostalism is the seeming prevalence of emphasis on the modern prophetic word and misuse or emphasis on gifts. I have seen time and again Pentecostal leaders proclaiming this or that, or predicting one thing or another that did not come to pass. It destroys trust. Trust in them, personally, and trust in their denomination. The tendency of folks to follow someone they feel has God’s ear more than they, or God’s word that they don’t hear, is alarming to me. Hanging on every word of their particular “prophet”, yet dismissing every eventual falsehood or failed word as a misinterpretation.
Maybe you have or maybe you haven’t taken a look (publicly) at your own denomination and exposed the false teachers, prophets, and pastors. I don’t recall seeing it. Would be happy to take a look, if you have.
Just to be clear, I’m not promoting JW. I think they are way off the mark. I’m also sitting here this week on business travel in Mormon Central (Ogden, Utah) incredulous as to how this cult created such an empire around an obviously false prophet and scammer.
Just a Bible-believing Christian trying to make sense of the myriad ways that the Bible is interpreted and put into practice. I don’t know if you’ll address my comments and questions, but I appreciate your allowing me to express them in your comment section. God Bless!
Michael Brown is good when it comes to Jewish issues and he believes in salvation through Jesus. Unfortunately he is blind to the false Pentecostal movement he belongs to. He needs prayer to wake up. If you are looking for someone who talks about all these fake pastors a good channel is “Fighting for the Faith”. Also some good Bible believing pastors who preach the word correctly are John MacArthur, Steve Lawson, Voodie Bauchman and Paul Washer.
His guest believes God led him to write an exposé on the Witnesses! How can anyone disprove Beverly's claim?
@@ceciliaramos2280 amen !!! Couldn’t agree more w you !!!
Best comment on this thread !
@@ceciliaramos2280 your belief is the correct one which is???
i got out in 2018 at 21, Sooo glad I opened my eyes
JW's sound like there depressed all of the time, there will never be the end of the world. Have a nice life and screw the shunning.
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I have yet to meet anyone who likes spending time in a cold loveless pit.
Some people like to be brainwashed
Some JWs do have testimony. A family member of mine had an interesting point of view on it. But thing is most wittnesss have fear. Growing up in it I noticed the other young people had higher rates of mental issues and social awkwardness . Many are afraid of being back slidden or that they'renot doing enough work which in their mind places their salvation at risk.
Yes, that is not fair.
Yes most of them are socially awkward or some times very arrogant .
True. I’ve left recently and after a decade as a baptised JW you are moulded into a shell of your former self. I’m extremely reserved, have social anxiety and judgmental because they mould you to be that way. They target people with mental issues so already suffering depression, anxiety etc so it’s filled with people who try to display a happy put together group of people but they are suffering behind closed doors. My congregation was filled with white middle class boring old people who are walking dead.
I got out this year, February, my birthday!
Yes, I had a party! 🎂🍾
Good I like that
Way to go! Have a nice life.
I am 74. Left the Watchtower cult over 50 years ago. I am a christian . I regularly " witness" to local Jehovah's Witnesses, as they stand by their literature stand. I'm reasonably well informed about their teachings and their misleading new world translation . I did a 4 year university degree course in biblical studies and a full time 1 year bible college course.
I approach them with compassion and with a gentle manner, which enables me to have an " ongoing " relationship. I trust that my approach and biblical knowledge ( and the Spirit ) will plant a seed .
It's sad to see decent human beings dehumanised and mislead by their leaders , who don't understand the gospel and , indeed , " ..preach another gospel / Jesus ".
The Father is the only true God John 17:3
I did a watchtower study but knowing that JESUS was not my mediator scared me . are we not to put our faith in men ?
That's a key that's glossed over. The "governing body" inserts itself between man and his savior.
Two of my sisters became Witnesses a few years ago. I tried to warn them about the red flags. They have been shunning me for 4 years now.
Yeah, I have family that are witnesses as well. Delusional bunch,
Continue living your life and plan to be there when this CULT crashes and burns 🔥....your family unfortunately 😕 are brainwashed
They change the text of the Bible.
I am 58.I studied with the witnesses aged 18.I never believed a word they said but played along. I remember going to the Kingdom Hall where I was love bombed. They eventually stopped calling as I was always asking questions that they couldn't answer. The last visit I had an Elder accompanied them .I never believed the 1914 mantra. I also said why are you trying to predict end times? The Bible states that God will return like a thief in the night. I don't celebrate my birthday or xmas and people ask if I am a witness. I just don't like birthdays or xmas.Saves money too.
Why have the end time dates changed about 3 times? 1914 got dropped. It's not that effective as a religion either. 66% raised as witnesses leave. That suggests that people woke up to the false teachings or that Witnesses are not taught well. Membership is steadily declining.8% negative growth in 20 years.
@@adrianlast195 Ripcord is a JW troll.
@larysnw418 The dates have changed 3 times.
"The prophecy of the Gentile Times, which began in 1914 remains the same."
It actually begin 1874/1878.
"But bear in mind that the end of 1914 is not the date for the beginning, but for the end of the time of trouble. Zion's Watch Tower 1894 Jul 15 p.226
"The year A.D. 1878 … clearly marks the time for the actual assuming of power as King of kings, by our present, spiritual, invisible Lord - …" The Time is At Hand (1911 ed) p.239
"It was never dropped."
It was dropped. Notice you didn't provide any evidence.
"You're quoting percentages but where are you getting your information?"
Himself?
"Are you disfellowshipped?"
Why does that matter.
@larysnw418 "The answer is, because we are in the end times"
No, we are not.
I used to ask my wife I said when you have a Bible study with somebody and they're new why don't you tell them what happens when you become a Jehovah's witness and you want to leave before they make the decision where you lose your friends you lose your family why don't you say that you see how many become a Jehovah's witness she didn't answer me
That's something JW's will never tell their bible student. To tell them if you get disfellowshipped you'll lose all your JW friends and family, they'll never recruit new members.
I was never told of their shunning practices when I got baptised.
@@morningglory9288 that's for sure
Yeah I know that I was just being a wise guy thanks for the input have a good day ❤️👍😂
1975 was not their last end time prediction, the generation of 1914 not passing away before the end comes is.
Didn't they bump that date up to 1935? It bought them more time.
@Stop Censorship
Good call, and now it's the generation of anointed ones that overlaps the current generation of anointed ones that saw 1914 that will witness the end.
Prayers my family wakes up. I know from experience how difficult it is to wrap your mind around it is NOT the truth. It is another lie.
I tried this off and on since 1984 and after a 40 years, I finally woke up and realized that it wasn’t for me and separated myself.
There is a video at the KH. The elders had asked a member to give the Sunday talk. They did not know he stopped going to meetings. He said yes. He opened the Bible up ask the members to go there and started talking about Jesus and what He was teaching the people. After a few short minutes, the elders cut the sound and several went up and ask him to leave. The people were confused and the man as he was leaving apologized to the congregation for leaving. Hopefully, God used that to get some out of the cult. He always turns Satan's bad into good, as only He can.
I saw that video it was great. I prayed to God to help me see things as they are, read up some on what went on in Bethel. Not long after I read Crisis of Conscience and that was it for me.
When someone is assigned to give a public(Sunday) talk, it's arranged weeks in advance. The speaker(s) are also screened. They're not selected arbitrarily. The possibility, of someone who had "stopped going to meetings" and giving that talk, are zero.
You're story is full of holes. Please refrain from posting any further nonsense.
Are you disfellowshipped?
I know that video.
@@ripcord8738 How is his story full of holes?
JW not only don’t report sexual abuse, but they also teach the women to stay in an abusive marriage. I was in an abusive marriage and I was told to stay in it just live a separate life. I told them I don’t believe a God that loves me would want me to stay in a marriage with a man that be hitting me. I divorced my exhusband and I never got baptized because some of the stuff they say sounds crazy! My mother is a JW and the stuff she says and believes is unbelievable.
He didn’t mention the most egregious and BLASPHEMOUS thing they believe and teach (144,000) they teach that NOT Christ but they are the Mediators by which prayers are heard. So the members that aren’t of this class prayers go through them to Christ. This was the straw that broke the Camels back for me, I left.
Lol, you're a liar. They don't teach that at all. They end their prayers with, In Jesus name. Do you just randomly pull BS out of the air and throw it around?
@@youcanstickit That's absolutely correct. They definitely do not teach that.
Huh, nope their prayers are to Jehovah in Jesus name. Don't have to make up things. There are enough ACTUAL doctrines that are false.
Can you tell me the Watchtower date and page I can find that on?
@Want Justice
Jesus is not the mediator of all mankind.
(Hebrews 9:15) That is why he is a mediator of a new covenant, in order that because a death has occurred for their release by ransom from the transgressions under the former covenant, THOSE WHO HAVE BEEN CALLED may receive the promise of the everlasting inheritance.
The everlasting inheritance OF THOSE WHO WERE CALLED is referring to those going to heaven to be kings a priest. The little flock is being addressed. (Why are priests needed in heaven? Is everyone going to be king? Who are going to be their subjects?)
Only a little flock is given the kingdom (Luke 12:32) and there are other sheep (John 10:16) not of this fold.
Christ sacrifice is for many. Not just those that were called.
The 144,000 were bought FROM the earth. (Rev 14:3) (They go to heaven)
These 144,000 were bought from among mankind as FIRSTFRUITS to God and to the Lamb (Rev 14:4).
When God recieved first fruits from the Israelites it did not mean God recieved it all. Only a LITTLE flock is given the kingdom by God. Only God chooses not yourselves. "THOSE WHO HAVE BEEN CALLED" not those who have called themselves.
There are two destinations. A resurrection in heaven and a resurrection on earth. There are those that will live forever in heaven and those that will live forever on the earth.
Jesus and the 144,000 are promised to receive their inheritance in heaven. Others will inherit the earth.
Matthew 5:5 “Happy are the mild-tempered, since they will inherit the earth.
Psalms 37:29 The righteous will possess the earth, And they will live forever on it
Luke 22:29
and I make a covenant with you, just as my Father has made a covenant with me, for a kingdom
Jesus is the mediator between "THOSE WHO HAVE BEEN CALLED" by God, this little flock bought from the earth, bought from among mankind, bought as first fruits to God and to the Lamb become kings and priests.
This guy is talking truth about jw
after listening to your interview i chose to leave JEHOVA WITNESS ...after four years in. now what do i do ?
Great news! Start here: nowitnesses.org/resources-ex-jehovahs-witnesses/
Just leave go no contact
Stay out,and just read the Bible.
Was a jw for 12 years. Got saved and my mom doesn't talk to me today.
The thing that I truly worry about (and I'm sure many of you agree) is that upon leaving the JW faith, many will simply reject God altogether by wrongfully associating Him with JW.
JW's worship Jehovah who is Satan. If you read the Old Testament, it is full of evil and killings/murders that Jehovah or LORD promotes and supports. He's behind the majority of evil portrayed in the Hebrew scriptures.
@@morningglory9288 To be honest, it would be unjust to refer to the killings under God's order in the Old Testament as evil. They were well deserved punishments based on proper judgement, per the context.
Although, I do agree with you that the JW's worship Satan. Not that the OT God is the same, though. They are depicted therein as separate and antagonistic.
Jacob Dillard, Well Jesus had a complete different nature to that of Jehovah/LORD. Jesus was the personification of absolute LOVE. He would never approve of any murders sacrifical offerings or mass killings of 100's of 1000's men woman children and babies as the God of the Old Testament was capable of doing. Jehovah/LORD is evil to the core, who loves animal and human blood sacrifices.
Exodus 29:17, 18 "Cut the ram into pieces, and wash off the internal organs and the legs. Set them alongside the head and the other pieces of the body,
18 then burn the entire animal on the altar. This is a burnt offering to the LORD ; it is a PLEASING AROMA, a special gift presented to the LORD .
Exodus 34:19,20 "The FIRSTBORN of every ANIMAL belongs to me, including the FIRSTBORN MALES from your herds of cattle and your flocks of sheep and goats.
20 A FIRSTBORN donkey may be bought back from the LORD by presenting a lamb or young goat in its place. But if you do not buy it back, you must BREAK ITS NECK. However, you must BUY BACK every FIRSTBORN SON. “No one may appear before me without an offering."
Check out these two scriptures: 2 Samuel 24:1,2 "Once again the anger of the LORD (or Jehovah), burned against Israel, and he caused David to harm them by taking a census. “Go and count the people of Israel and Judah,” the LORD told him. 2 So the king said to Joab and the commanders of the army, “Take a census of all the tribes of Israel-from Dan in the north to Beersheba in the south-so I may know how many people there are.”
1 Chronicles 21:1,2 "Satan rose up against Israel and caused David to take a census of the people of Israel.
2 So David said to Joab and the commanders of the army, “Take a census of all the people of Israel-from Beersheba in the south to Dan in the north-and bring me a report so I may know how many there are.”
Same account but Samuel reads as Jehovah or LORD, Chronicles reads as Satan.
@@morningglory9288 The reason why Jesus came to represent love was because man deserved the previous judgments in the Old Testament. In other words, the God of the Old and New Testaments do not contradict, they compliment as two sides of the same ideal: one of justice, the other of mercy, but both the same.
Please note, though: none of the deaths under God in the Old Testament were "murders". They were justified executions. Killing and murdering are two very different things. It is entirely possible to kill many without murdering one.
Yes my friend and this is what Satan himself is after. He wants people away from God so many times when you leave cults God does not exist to you. You may come around later but no guarantees there.
So grateful that they are being exposed.
I LOVE Jehovah God but left the religion that claim to follow Jehovah God because the religion NO LONGER have love as the government none baptized members begin to out number the REAL baptized members! Yes, our religion was OVERTAKEN by the military! And these none baptized members are wicked and run MANY out of the religion...and even kill them if they can. The TRUE God, Jehovah is no longer with the religion as he left many of his people in times past for NOT loving him and each other.
@@rodrickwoodssr1498 BORING!!
I told my wife you don't celebrate birthdays she still Jehovah's witness I'm not you said birthdays are wrong because it doesn't show a good light cuz they were killings well if you're going to use that analogy I told her there was two men in the Bible that got their haircut Samson and somebody else I forgot his name it begins with an a I think and both of them died so you shouldn't get your haircut she said don't be ridiculous I said exactly 😂👍❤️
Job- sons celebrated there birthdays
@@lalo2641 you know you're right I read that that's what it seems like you're right
@@gaetanodetorrice5555 in Hebrew concordance there's the numbers for each words ✌
Okay thank you 👍
@@gaetanodetorrice5555 see you in the channels🤣👌
Time is one of the biggest enemies of a false teacher or prophet; they eventually get exposed or become irrelevant
Thank you for the book references-fantastic interview, gentlemen. Thank you SO much for an A+ attempt to tap the lost on the shoulder with wisdom and grace. Bless you!🙏🏻💗😍
Not growing..thank God....true statement..
It's good there loosing members.
They're
I listened to a lot of testimony of the Australian Royal Commission into child abuse. The overwhelming impression is a flood of stupidity about the issue. All churches came off looking bad. But right at the top was the Jehovah's Witnesses !!!!!! Their leader said that the witnesses believed that every incident must be witnessed by 2 or more people as if they were immune because of this. It most certainly impressed no one.
Great talk by the way. I learned a lot from this. All the best.
Alan
The two witness statement is scriptural. Matt.18:16
@@ripcord8738 No, it isn't. The two witness is unbibilcal.
I pray that all cults like Jehovah Witnesses, Mormons, organizations that teach against the Trinity , Scientology, other cults etc. and false religions would lose members in these last days and I pray that Jesus would be delivering people from them and that they would come out in droves ( in large quantities) . In Jesus' name. Amen
i agree with you in prayer.Amen
They kick EVERYONE out who they can’t control anyone with doubts or challenges. Do not let them in in fact don’t answer the door
As an exjw, now born again Christian, I am VERY concerned that this author is calling Eric Wilson and James Penton Christians. Both men deny the deity of the Lord Jesus, that he is God in the flesh. Wilson's channel has morphed into one of humble whistleblower to arrogant leader over a God of his own making. I'm not denying that Penton and Wilson have done a GREAT service to the cause of waking people up out of JWs, since I myself first came to open my eyes about "The Truth" as a result of Eric's first 10 or so videos. They were an excellent exposé! I even have Penton's book, Apocalypse Delayed, a good read! But sadly these men are still misled and misleading others to a Jesus that cannot save.
Excellent discussion
My x came from a family of jw , and left but sadly damaged .The whole family is dysfunctional as a result..
Sounds EXACTLY like my family and the family's of so many others!!! Just tragic!
It’s important to note that Jehovah’s Witnesses treat baptized members very differently that non baptized people who may attend their services. It’s when you’re baptized that you actually become a JW. My mother urged me to get baptized as a JW when I was just 10 years old. I had no idea the ramification of doing such. Once I dissociated myself from the JW’s I was prompted disfellowshipped in my late teens. My mother told me then that I was “dead to her.” Now I’m 65 years old and my mother still in all these years won’t make contact with me. I can call her if I want, and she’ll be cordial, but there’s no relationship. On the other hand, she’ll call her sisters or brothers who are not JW’s (but not formerly baptized JW’s) and engage them or visit them often. A baptized JW who leaves is seen as apostate and must be shunned by all other JWs including immediate family members.
OMG that's so false!
That just is not true .you can leave whenever you want. If you are living an immoral life such as doing drugs your family can choose not to associate with you but that applies to non witness families also doesn't it .And you are not disfellowshiped for leaving. About disfellowshipping it Is not the first thing that is done, they are given counsel and they have a chance to come back. It isn't like they are just thrown away Jehovah doesn't want anyone to be thrown away we try everything to help them but ultimately it is their choice we have free will. We aren't brainwashed we have free will ,get that free will.
My Spouse and I left over 40 years ago .However the one thing they are right about is Christmas Easter and Halloween having pagan roots ..So happy to be no part of JW organization.
"Crisis Of Conscious," told the truth; you know they avoid THAT! The problem with RELIGIONS that have ALL the ANSWERS is that they do not allow for QUESTIONS!
The internet and the easy dissemination of the all the previous false prophesies at one fingertips has helped decimate the Watchtower. Of course the average JW is discouraged from looking at “apostate” sites or videos but there is so much out there that exposes the true Watchtower history how can one not begin to question?
I lost my best friend to this cult. She had been out of it for 20 years then about 3 months ago she started going again. I'm not sure how she doesn't see the craziness of it. We've been best friends for 9 almost 10 years. During that time she was always a leader never a follower. Then being last year she started going through some rough times. I was by her side every day trying to help her through it. But because of these hard times she started searching for something to make her happy. She started going to Bible study with her grandmother and before I knew it she had jumped whole heartily back into it. Since I am not a witness it started putting a widget in between our friendship. I really hate that things have turned out the way it has. I wish nothing but happiness for her. If she finds happiness in the witness then great but I'm afraid that it's going to turn into a disaster. If it does I'll be here if she needs me. I love her like my sister and hope for nothing but the best for her.
Show her this video. Eric Wilson /beroeans pickets here on TH-cam (ex jw he interviews the historian John Penton ex jw also a professor)
David Bercot if she wants lots of information he is very good at explaining and shows from the Bible.
I listen to him a lot really excellent person)
@@cghrios783 Thank you.
Wow you sound like an amazing friend!! Any updates?
@@brittneyp282 No unfortunately I was made out to be the evil person in our friendship so I just had to cut all ties which was heart breaking. But I still only wish the very best for her no matter what that my be.
@@RedheadPhoto im sorry! I hope she comes around one day!
You can ask the JWs questions up until you join them. Then it is absolutely not allowed. And you are stuck. This is what is important for people to know. It is very important that people stay away from this organisation.
@larysnw418 I cannot retract something I myself have experienced.
@larysnw418JWs don't represent true Christianity. Orthodox church does.
@@mariahenningsson6406Ripcord is a JW troll.
JWs need our Love and compassion! There are many beautiful people stuck in this ridiculous Cult! They need our help!
Jehovah and Jesus Christ our Lord and savior Will continue to crush this cult with truth Amen
I am so thankful I woke up from this cult. Life changing.
William J. Snell wrote "30 Years a Watchtower Slave". I read the book when I was 15 years old. Unfortunately, he expressed a sense of bitterness about his experience more than substance. When I was 12 years old I heard R.V. Franz deliver a keynote address at the "Divine Name" district assembly at Riverfront stadium. He was a powerful speaker as a member of the governing body. I left the Witnesses in 1977 because I began to have my own doubts about their Hermeneutics.
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I’m still in, so true, they “demand” loyalty. Remember, you are baptized in an “organization “, they took the Holy Spirit out!
I agree with this guy for the most part. Most members are really decent people just off on scripture in many ways
The only connection I had with JWs I had was that we had this one couple come around to our place when I was growing up. They came around for about 20 - 30 years. They had 2 kids. We watched them grow up.
I have watched quite a few of Eric Wilson's videos. He is a good man.
Great video! Amazing research.
I do have a couple of thoughts, if it's not rude to share what I disagree on,
It's just that, the nearly 100 thousand child abuse victims, me included, would dispute that they are harmless or nice or sweet people. The nicest sisters in the entire circuit still said I asked for it when I was raped as a toddler and forced me to remain silent while I was continously raped for years despite 78 adults being well aware, my own dearest friends begged me to repent of toddler fornication so that I could live forever with Jehovah's witnesses in a paradise that starts with burying the corpses of everyone who's not a Jehovah's witness, in nudity, with my rapist who was immediately forgiven and not reported to the police and hitler who gets a fresh start because "it's not for us to judge."
It's also a little weird to see people split hairs. Are jws wrong? Absolutely, Completely wrong.
Not only on the specific doctrinal issues unique to them but they are wrong for believeing in the authenticity of the bible as a book providing a historical record of a god. They're dumb for believing 8 million species of animals sprang out of an arks worth in the most rapid evolution ever described. Come the flip on. I was dumb, we were dumb, religion is dumb.
Regardless, I realistically respect everyones beliefs with the caveat that I'm allowed to admit I'm scratching my head at some of the less realistic literalist interpretations and absolutely hate anyone of you that condones what they've done to me and children like me who trusted them and had decades of our lives ruined. I believe everyone is responsible for maintaining the pressure in regards to dangerous policy reform, if they won't report child rape and alert parents they become responsible for the crime, I will hold them responsible this year and sue them for terrorising me into repenting for a crime committed against me.
That's all, thanks for another great video can't wait to see what you put out next.
I too was a victim at a very young age. Bless you for what you have been through.
Io sono un ex sono uscito da poco e condivido quello che hai detto lo riscontrato anch'io che hanno commesso dei crimini contro di voi e contro migliaia di persone che si fidavano di questa sinagoga di Satana, hanno infangato il nome di Dio proteggendo se stessi (LA WATCHTOWER AMERICANA SI È MACCHIATA DI GRAVI CRIMINI VERSO GEOVA E CONTRO PERSONI INNOCENTI COME I BAMBINI ,GEOVA GLI RISERVERA LA DISTRUZZIONE TOTALE ) noi soffriamo le vostre pene e piangiamo con voi ,IL NOSTRO AUGURIO È SIATE FORTI E CORAGGIOSI NEL PROSEGUIMENTO DELLA VOSTRA FEDE IN DIO .SALUTI DA L'ITALIA.
I’m sorry to hear what you suffered. May God bless you!
Im sorry for the pain you've been thru. The main reason I dissociated myself from the JW is the CSA, I can't stand that 😡
I wish there's an everlasting kind of suffering for them child mol-est-ers, and for the hypocrites with double standards who blame it on you being a toddler. I'd kill whoever harmed my only child. How about your parents? How they didn't notice the abu--se?
May the Lord God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob bless and comfort you and everyone elsewhere in that has had this kinds of experience in Jesus mighty name.
I heard that to when my mom dragged us into it in 1970 I was 10. They were telling us that Babylon the great (the end of the world) was going to happene in 1975 and they had me making a fool of myself telling people that especially my peers. 1975 came and went and here we are.
JWs stated that 1975 was the end of 6000 years of human history.
They never said the end of the world was was going to be that year. How could they? Jesus said that no one knew the "day or the hour"
@@ripcord8738 I don't know I was a child then and that's what was told to me when I dragged into via of my mom. They never explained it like that.
Thank goodness for the overlapping Generations. PS. On the that issue please read Matthew chapter 1 lists 42 Generations none overlapping. They almost Never quote "This Generation will not pass...." what an embarrassing teaching is the overlapping Generations rubbish.
The bs is coming to an end...l hope this younger generation wakes up the the bs they're being fed
I hope you are referring to the 🐂💩 of ALL religions. There are no arguments beyond deism without a major leap of faith and faith is stupid.
Belief ≠ acceptance
Faith ≠ trust.
@Chief Sitting American 👈🤪
Great interview. Thank you for doing and sharing.
I'm a jw (since I'm 17 so I can't really do anything) and I have so many questions. Especially about paradise and just everything in general, I mean I don't know if it exists since I can't really find proof if it's going to happen or not, every time I say I don't believe in it my mother gets mad at me. I'm scared everyday because I know if I leave I'll be shunned and my parents won't talk to me because I'm worldy. I just wish I didn't live in fear everyday. I tried doing research but it confused me so I don't know where to look first..
I recently lost an old friend that was a jw to suicide and I'm starting to wonder if it was because of the stress from being a witness since we have so much we have to do to feel accepted.
I remember when I was young my mom was very sick since she had a lot of seizures and my dad had to work to keep us under a roof. In our old Hall we needed help but a lot of the witnesses that were in that Hall didn't want to help us and they gave us mean looks and the cold shoulder. I know not every witness is mean, I've met some real nice ones. But it sucked knowing they were supposed to be nice but then they treated my family badly and ignored us, I still cry about it sometimes because I was taught that people in the Hall should be nice to each other and I was taught that worldy people were bad. But I've met people who aren't witnesses and they we're very kind to me and didn't judge me..
I honestly don't even know what to believe anymore..
I am so sorry you are going through this. Just know that you can be set free. Jesus died for us so that if we believe in him, In his death on the cross and resurrection we will
Be set free. Jesus is God in the flesh, he is the way the truth and the life . If I were you I would get a job as soon as possible, save money and when you are 18 move out. Your friends and family from the Hall will Stop talking to you when you leave the JW cult. Trust in the Lord he will make a way for you.
Pray, ask Jesus to show you the way, keep calm, and pray everyday. God bless you.
May the Lord show you the way John 14, 6
If you find that you do feel the need to leave, know that it is rough, but it gets better. I made new friends who helped me find my way. I went back to school. I have a good mate who cares for me. I raise my child without the fear I felt constantly that they're never going to be good enough. My child has a kind heart and treats others with kindness. I'm proud of the life I've made. Recently, I got my sister back when she had her own reckoning with the organization's policies. She apologized for ostracizing me for years. I never thought badly of her for it because I knew she was still trying to conform to the beliefs she had been raised with. Apparently, even though I never said anything against JW's or their practices, my grandmother and aunt had begun calling me an apostate. I didn't know this before taking care of them while they were in hospice, but it wouldn't have mattered. They hadn't talked to me for years at that point anyway. I would have done so anyway because they're family and I value that over any difference in philosophies. So, maybe I am an apostate because I've always thought actions speak louder than words and my good life makes everything I was told about "the world" out to be a lie.
@david mathiesen good advice to this young man. Yet you still have to do what Jehovah God and Jesus Christ said to do... read it for yourself.. write it out... and Follow Jesus and go make Desciples. Be happy and love everyone as your neighbor. Pray, meditate and allow God's word to work in people...no human can force anyone to believe or join into something.