Why nearly 100,000 people left Japan to move to North Korea

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    Between 1959 and 1984, about 94,000 people abandoned their lives in Japan to pursue fresh starts in North Korea. Almost all of them were ethnic Koreans who had ties to a prominent pro-North Korean lobby. Referred to as Zainichi Koreans - a Japanese word for foreign nationals “staying in Japan” - the group faced discrimination in Japan. But does that explain why they chose to move to one of the most repressive countries on Earth? And what did they find when they arrived in North Korea?
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  • @FriendlyYandere
    @FriendlyYandere 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1013

    I remember the story about a group of people that left Japan to go to North Korea, only 1 manage to get back to Japan and regret ever going there in the first place, she left flowers at the dock that she left Japan from to mourn her friends who had died and still stuck in North Korea.

    • @sextempiric7137
      @sextempiric7137 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Story told by one traitor and published by propagandist?

    • @topglobal6675
      @topglobal6675 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +32

      *source : trust me bro 🗿

    • @xLuis89x
      @xLuis89x 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +73

      @@topglobal6675 would not be weird, bruh, N . korea is not a safe place to live in, at all

    • @joshua-jayechan465
      @joshua-jayechan465 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      source: trust me bro 🗿@@xLuis89x

    • @happycook6737
      @happycook6737 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      💔😭

  • @Flyinghigh3597
    @Flyinghigh3597 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1454

    After the Korean War and in 1950s, North Korea received very much aid from the Soviet Union and China to rebuild their war destroyed country. At the same time Japan in 1950s was very difficult to live, it was like a third world country in rebuilding program. That's why many Japanese or Korean ethnic Japanese fled to North Korea for a better living. North Korea had a higher living standard than People's Republic of China until 1970s. North Korea was like East Germany that a communist country needs to be stability because they are the frontlier and bulwark against the West infiltration or invasion. But things changed dramatically in 1980s when China open the door to the West and the deterioration of Soviet Union. After losing Soviet aid in 1990 and the development of nuclear weapons in North Korea, their economy turned to worse and became a total poverty.
    But the Japanese xenophobic culture and racism in Japan was also the reasons why many Koreans chose to go back to North Korea, their ancestry root were in Korea's northern province so they couldn't goto South Korea.

    • @twist777hz
      @twist777hz 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      They couldn't go to South Korea because South Korea refused to accept them.

    • @ThawZinMyo-gw3zz
      @ThawZinMyo-gw3zz 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +64

      Thanks for your summary

    • @Truthseeker371
      @Truthseeker371 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +94

      At least, they had made the choice by themselves. They were not abducted by the NK spies, unlike the Japanese abductees still missing in NK. Many NKoreans decided to remain in Japan, though they were descriminated and still are. In life, making a decision depends totally up to an individual. For that matter, we have to gather information and do homework sufficiently. Blaming others is our most common habit. We all have to face the consequences. Many Japanese wives of the NK residents in Japan also followed to repatriate in the NK. Very few of them could return to Japan. Most of them have lived and also suffered the hardship there.

    • @sinoroman
      @sinoroman 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +34

      since Japan and South Korea became juniors under USA, they were then heavily subsidized by America

    • @user-nnn2gf6oo7f
      @user-nnn2gf6oo7f 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      嘘つきは中国人の国技

  • @marcinna8553
    @marcinna8553 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +119

    Informative video. I lived in Japan for about a decade and always found this subject confusing. A co-worker of mine was a Korean medical doctor, born in Japan and who had only a Korean passport. He would joke to me that he had to live a clean life; if he committed any crime he could be deported to Korea, a country he barely knew. Near some Korean schools I would see signs reminding people not to discriminate. So clearly there were problems around the schools. Coming from the US it was hard to understand how families could live for multiple generations in a country and not have citizenship rights. I would think dual citizenship would help in this situation, but neither Korea nor Japan allows this (technically, you can have both Japanese and a North Korean passports, but this is only because Japan does not recognize North Korea as a sovereign state, and so considers its passports invalid.). How odd to live in this kind of nether world where you don't belong to a country you grew up in.

    • @WokOverEasy
      @WokOverEasy 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      I’d learn Korean and leave. Korea is successful now so there isn’t even a reason to stay in a country who won’t give you acceptance and other benefits of citizenship.

    • @effingcool1780
      @effingcool1780 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      There are actually many countries with such law in Asia not only in Japan. You are considered as a citizen only if at least one of your parent is a citizen. Your birth place doesn't matter,only your ethnicity. On the other hand they don't consider foreigners that were born in their country as their citizen. Even after living there for few generations they would be non citizen because of their ethnicity , so it is hard.

    • @TheRealNicholeta
      @TheRealNicholeta 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      In the US there are daca recipients who are people brought to the U.S. as children and didn’t have an option to apply for citizenship. To this day they are not considered full U.S. citizens nor do that have a pathway for that

    • @muuttohaukka0320
      @muuttohaukka0320 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@effingcool1780 That’s not entirely true. People still have a choice. While a Japanese nationally is only given automatically if your parents are Japanese, you can still apply to be naturalized in Japan. The Korean Japanese people who grew up in Japan are likely qualified (there are a few criteria like living in Japan 5 consecutive years etc.) Every year people chose to get Japanese citizenship. FYI, 43% of naturalized citizens in Japan in 2021 were the ethnic Koreans, and majority of them were those who grew up in Japan. Those who stay non-Japanese for a few generations are doing so by their own choice for different reasons.

    • @effingcool1780
      @effingcool1780 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@muuttohaukka0320 i was talking about my country not Japan. It is also homogeneous asian country and doesn't accept foreigners.

  • @jont2576
    @jont2576 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +271

    i mean they were not wrong,in the 1960s in the aftermath of the war north korea was paradise compared to south korea.

    • @intreoo
      @intreoo 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +107

      Yep. Additionally, the Korean peninsula's industry and natural resources were primarily in the North, not to mention they directly bordered China and the USSR, easing trade. They were poised to do much better than South Korea, but obviously, that never happened.

    • @sado429
      @sado429 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +103

      No one could've imagined back then that South Korea will surpass North Korea the way they did today. We can't blame them for choosing North Korea sadly ...

    • @CommunistBot
      @CommunistBot 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +32

      ​​@@intreoo All the colonial industry was bombed, so the north had to start on a clean slate. And then, north Korea still had stronger economy until their trade partners turned capitalist

    • @marisakirisame8543
      @marisakirisame8543 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      When the most powerful country sanctions you for decades, you'll fall behind no matter what.

    • @fukinyouup
      @fukinyouup 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +31

      @@CommunistBot nothing makes me laugh harder than watching commies try to spin north korea into a success story

  • @workingstudentera
    @workingstudentera 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +643

    I bet most of those people, alive or gone, thought once that that was the biggest mistake of their life.

    • @heyking8583
      @heyking8583 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +48

      Current north korea better than japan

    • @adelalmohtaseb5261
      @adelalmohtaseb5261 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      For sure @@heyking8583

    • @ZalmanFarisiUNAS
      @ZalmanFarisiUNAS 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +30

      Better died than being red

    • @PositivelyPresent1
      @PositivelyPresent1 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +199

      @@heyking8583wow… are you for real ..!!!?

    • @tenchichrono
      @tenchichrono 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

      @@PositivelyPresent1it's real. NK > Japan.

  • @Garbeaux.
    @Garbeaux. 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +80

    I can’t imagine going to live in another country I know very little about. It would be like if white Americans went back to a Europe country or black Americans to an African country. Our cultural and familial ties to those places would have been broken generations ago. Even though we have ancestry in those places, it would still be a foreign country to us.

    • @Nn.65juk
      @Nn.65juk 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      It is logic......nothing else.

    • @Sandalleno33-uw2ix
      @Sandalleno33-uw2ix 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      @@Nn.65jukwhat an almost glass-shattering statement

    • @MrFreeman0179
      @MrFreeman0179 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      "... live in another country..."
      Europe and Africa aren't countries.

    • @kassaken6521
      @kassaken6521 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +25

      ​​@@MrFreeman0179Dude, pretty sure he meant European countries and African Countries, not the actually continents themselves...

    • @Garbeaux.
      @Garbeaux. 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

      @@MrFreeman0179 lol. Trying so quick to correct someone when you’re wrong. Did you not see where I said European country? Or African country?! Come on now.

  • @gera.w
    @gera.w 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +249

    the fact that they even loved her smell, this really hit me, you can feel how hopeless and desperate they were

    • @condorX2
      @condorX2 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It's really hard to tell who's doing the propaganda. A Korean woman pretending to be Japanese just to fit in or this video 😅

    • @budhikarya7221
      @budhikarya7221 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

      Our smell is a thing. Doctor know our illness by sensing our smell. This video tell us our smell defined our economic status etc etc

  • @Melcor2304
    @Melcor2304 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +25

    6:00 the grandmother was a smart cookie, she was rather spot on.

  • @THErealOGse
    @THErealOGse 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

    My heart breaks for Ms. Park. I cannot imagine what her life has been like and how she feels.

  • @user-vy1en9nl3o
    @user-vy1en9nl3o 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +88

    My grandmother's aunt's family moved to California from Japan before World War II,
    Even their parents and other family members stopped them, They didn't listen, and all of them survived WW2 at there.
    However, all of my grandmother's family who remained in Japan died during WW2, except my grandmother who was 6 years old and my grandmother's sister who was 4 years old.
    Ultimately, I think people have to decide themself where you live. I think no one can take responsibility for others future.

    • @S.huddo-db3ew
      @S.huddo-db3ew 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      To many People always think they can be responsible for other peoples futures without asking

    • @yo2trader539
      @yo2trader539 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Korean peninsula was untouched by WWII. It was the Korean War in the 1950s that did the damage.

    • @deedelta9263
      @deedelta9263 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Disagree significantly but not fully. There is an onus on individuals themselves, but when you have propaganda, secrets, and lies heavily orchestrated to influence one's decision, I don't think that should be underestimated

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  • @ntwadumela374
    @ntwadumela374 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +113

    this is incredible! without this video theres no way i would ever have thought this could have happened! what a story! thx for sharing

  • @jasminezhu6058
    @jasminezhu6058 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

    Wow this was so interesting! Thank you for this great documentary!

  • @PCBmanufacturer1
    @PCBmanufacturer1 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    It is horrible to hear about that, Thanks for sharing the story, Otherwise, it would be totally forgotten

  • @samdawolf
    @samdawolf 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +24

    crazy how many things like this we never hear about, very well made thanks

    • @lenawagenfuehr53
      @lenawagenfuehr53 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      No, the videos are not well made. Tone the music down - it's like cheap propaganda

  • @masa26762
    @masa26762 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    The personal takeaway is to choose a country not because of the living standard at the moment that can flip in 10 years, but the country that lets you leaves again if choose to.

    • @SWiseman
      @SWiseman 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      Choose freedom over promises.

  • @MC36vgaming
    @MC36vgaming 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Thanks SCMP ,U explain lots of knowledge ❤!

  • @sparemanedel5464
    @sparemanedel5464 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    This is so heart breaking.

  • @NyoungLover
    @NyoungLover 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +72

    Great documentary, i didn't know this part of history existed. Thank you SCMP.

  • @byoung8918
    @byoung8918 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +98

    It's somewhat astonishing to see that two countries from opposing political affiliations could cooperate in secret to oversee such a humanitarian disaster. I guess again it just shows eventually it's social class that devides people, instead of culture, nation, religion or ideology. The ruling class could do anything to reinforce their own interest, be it waging wars or reach agreement with the opposing force. In this very incident, of course North Korean government obtained "costless" labors while Japanese government got rid of unwanted population. Win-win for the ruling classes on both sides.

    • @SamGarcia
      @SamGarcia 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Oh my goodness, finding something against communism where that wasn't the original cause, it was racism, since it affected Koreans of all social classes.

    • @lukerinderknecht2982
      @lukerinderknecht2982 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Well put

    • @yo2trader539
      @yo2trader539 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      They are ethnic Koreans who wanted to return to their homeland. There was no reason for Japan to block their return.

    • @shin-ishikiri-no
      @shin-ishikiri-no 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@SamGarcia The race isn't that different actually. More like culturalism. Also, why are you so defensive over communism?

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  • @Julsdoy
    @Julsdoy 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +376

    Well made, compelling and thought provoking short documentary. Congrats to SCMP, exceptionlly produced indeed.

    • @apolakigamingandmore6376
      @apolakigamingandmore6376 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Exactly, this is a really great documentary, it's very interesting indeed. :)

    • @davasaurthereal4678
      @davasaurthereal4678 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      had absolutely no idea about anything discussed here, pretty amazing.
      and of course, amazing documentary by scmp 👍

    • @DJPoundPuppy
      @DJPoundPuppy 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      This video was incredible!

    • @lenawagenfuehr53
      @lenawagenfuehr53 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Nah...they need to tone down the music for a start, and their reports are very slanted, leaving out big factors. They're only scratching the surface...

  • @sriharshacv7760
    @sriharshacv7760 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +122

    Right from the beginning of the video, I was suspecting Japanese govt. to be complicit, given the general xenophobia. Nobody is particularly innocent. I heard many racist / xenophobic horror stories from Indians who live in S. Korea too. Everyone likes to blame Westerners but many Asian countries & Eastern Europeans are way more xenophobic than we give them 'credit' for.

    • @DeathNikkii
      @DeathNikkii 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Indians do the same. Every country in Asia hates each other.

    • @IHighscoredYourGirl
      @IHighscoredYourGirl 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      just live amongst your own people man. then nobody will be racist towards you

    • @ujangbahagia7367
      @ujangbahagia7367 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      not everyone is open to Globalization and not every same race leaders is suitable so they got no choice and move to another country

    • @yo2trader539
      @yo2trader539 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      It's not our job to prevent Koreans from returning to their homeland. If an Indian immigrant wants to return to India, so be it.

    • @darcychurch9749
      @darcychurch9749 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      @@IHighscoredYourGirl
      How many generations until you are considered one of us/welcomed?

  • @GoldSpot-pf1yb
    @GoldSpot-pf1yb 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

    Scmp must make more videos like this. Frankly I didn’t know all this.

  • @ROBLOXGamingDavid
    @ROBLOXGamingDavid 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +55

    I learned about Chongryon from Vox, and from other sources when i looked it up, some I could not trust and only read its headlines, but this one adds a bit more detail for me to learn more about ethnic Koreans in Japan.

  • @jonathonmorin6820
    @jonathonmorin6820 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Music was mixed too loud I found it hard to hear some of the speaking

  • @Sjalabais
    @Sjalabais 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +101

    There are a couple of TH-cam videos on this topic already, but few with this much clarity. Japan really still has a lot of cleaning up to do regarding their WW2 and post war history.

    • @BioluminescentTree
      @BioluminescentTree 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      What does this have to do with WW2, exactly??

    • @KF-zb6gi
      @KF-zb6gi 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@BioluminescentTree if they didn't wage war and colonize korea, would they got millions of korean in their soil? Not to mention after they lost, they threw the koreans like trash by making them foreigner, setting up policy against them, and lastly arranging them to the forsaken place like north korea

    • @missalicesmiles
      @missalicesmiles 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

      ​@@BioluminescentTreeI'm sure they meant WWII and post WWII as two separate issues. Maybe you didn't realize the atrocities the Japanese committed before and leading up to the war and how the government still isn't the most forthcoming

    • @hilpha
      @hilpha 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      @@BioluminescentTree The fact that Japan annexed Korea in 1910 up to 1945 (which included both WW1 and WW2)?

    • @yo2trader539
      @yo2trader539 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      They are Korean nationals. It's their choice to relocate to North or South Korea.

  • @Ricky911_
    @Ricky911_ 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +125

    Sadly, the Japanese government was often run by ex-WW2 leaders throughout the 1950s. The PM from 1957-1960 (Nobusuke Kishi) is known for the atrocities he committed in Manchuria. I'm afraid a large part of the reason why Japan was fine with the immigration despite knowing how bad it was in North Korea is because they wanted to get rid of the Korean population

    • @DamslettesSIMP
      @DamslettesSIMP 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      sauce?

    • @Ricky911_
      @Ricky911_ 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +34

      @@DamslettesSIMP Some things are fairly obvious, mate. Don't you find it strange how they knew all along what was happening in North Korea and they still let the ships go? Sounds very fishy to me

    • @user-pn3im5sm7k
      @user-pn3im5sm7k 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

      The first prime minister of S. Korea was a Lieutenant in the Imperial Japanese Army

    • @stevens1041
      @stevens1041 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

      You can look at the people convicted during the Tokyo Tribunal: you will see many Korean names along with Japanese. But one thing is accurate, Japanese don't want non-Japanese people living in their country. I lived in Japan for a while and found this to be true.

    • @BlessAllKC
      @BlessAllKC 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      What are the figures for :
      Cuba
      Pakistan
      Bangladesh
      Mauritius
      Russia
      Any of the ASEAN countries
      Any of the African countries
      Any of the South American countries
      Any of the Central American countries
      Any of the Carribean countries
      Any of the Pacific Island countries
      Any of the EU countries

  • @signupisannoying
    @signupisannoying 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +30

    Just one bad decision causes whole family and their future descendands endless suffering and no way out.

  • @dimitrimoonlight
    @dimitrimoonlight 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +24

    Please also take up the issue of the abduction of 17 Japanese by North Korea, which has not yet been resolved.😢

  • @CarolineNiggAyaLee-Janet
    @CarolineNiggAyaLee-Janet 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +149

    You also have to remember, the fact that Ethnic Koreans associated themselves with North Korea in 70-80s unfortunately intensifies anti-Korean sentiment in Japan. They were seen as more untrustworthy because of their connection to NK government and the US-induced anti-communist education in Japan didn’t help either….

    • @donaldmacdonald4901
      @donaldmacdonald4901 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Japan hating education in North Korean schools in Japan probably doesn’t help either.

    • @sextempiric7137
      @sextempiric7137 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Koreans associated themselves with Korea? That was a smart statement, I take my hat off to that.

    • @nana7451
      @nana7451 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      @@sextempiric7137not korea, but north korea. There’s a difference

    • @sextempiric7137
      @sextempiric7137 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@nana7451 They are all Koreans drling!

    • @nana7451
      @nana7451 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@sextempiric7137 yes, but seeing how North Koreans and South Koreans are like day and night, there’s a vast difference. There’s nothing wrong with Koreans associating themselves with Korea and Korean culture. But when they intentionally associate themselves with a country like North Korea and glorify the harmful idealogies of a communist dictatorship, you can’t blame people for seeing them as suspicious. It’s like walking into a bank wearing a balaclava and carrying a rifle, and then getting mad as to why people are finding you suspicious or dangerous. Seeing the amount of North Korean spies there are in East Asian countries like China, South Korea, Japan, Vietnam, Laos, Cambodia etc and the history of kidnappings and atrocities they have committed despite being on foreign soil, it really isn’t unnatural for locals to find them suspicious especially when they’re boasting about the country’s “greatness” and glorifying it’s disgusting regime in broad daylight.

  • @admiralb2848
    @admiralb2848 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Super video. Very thought provoking. Obviously Immigration/Emigration is often more complex than the simple explanations we see in the headlines.

  • @briankim2903
    @briankim2903 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Huge discrepancy here. Koreans did not "immigrate" to Japan in a "large-scale migration".. they were forced against their will, families were broken up and brought to Japan, forced into the Japanese army, or became slaves who endured intense labor in Japan's mines and factories used for Japan's production needs during WWII. Thousands of Korean men died being put in the front line as shields for the Japanese army, and thousands died in the mines from very harsh and poor conditions, many others were just killed for not being subordinate or planely not being of any use to them any more.. like having health issues from poor living conditions, or crippled from labor related accidents. That is what's so fcked up.. then Japan turns around and not only discriminated against them and treated them as less than human but kicks them out.

  • @developersmith5329
    @developersmith5329 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Japan is shown as the bad one here but don't forget South Korea wasn't really welcoming towards their own people and were just looking when Japan was sending them to North. I don't know but that's even worse. If I care about somebody I don't just look and mind my own business. That's just ignorant.

    • @jihojio2118
      @jihojio2118 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      한국정부는 북한으로 보내는 것에 반대해서 일본에 테러를 하기도 했다네요.
      실제로 한국으로 돌아온 재일 조선인도 많습니다.
      이건 일본과 북한의 범죄 맞아요. 일본이 저지른 죄가 하도 많아서 이 정도는 뭐 한국인들이 크게 신경 쓰지 않는 정도라고 할 수 있죠.
      적어도 죽이진 않았으니까

  • @juanritanjaya6254
    @juanritanjaya6254 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +179

    There was a similar repatriation program in South East Asia inviting chinese to return to Hong Kong or communist China. While they were not as harsh as conditions in North Korea, my grandparent’s family who moved back had a pretty tough time as well there. Glad my grandparents decided to stay.

    • @tanyan6325
      @tanyan6325 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +34

      Making a living in South East Asia is much easier compared to Taiwan or China. Competitions are not as bad. To even get into Public universities, they are numerous very smart people to compete with. Jobs, businesses are tougher, all harder working. SEAsians are a lot more laid back.

    • @goyam2981
      @goyam2981 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

      My grandma went back to visit her family in China probably in the 90s. We heard about the bathrooms there and thanked our grandparents for migrating out of China. Imagine Andy Lau's movie Dances with Dragon. His character is mistaken for an illegal migrant swimmer from the mainland. Things have changed now but back then you wouldn't want to be in the mainland.

    • @roboaxe6688
      @roboaxe6688 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Same with my grandparent but one of uncle did go back there now he is in beijing but they glad they choose to stay cause my great grandma bound feet make it hard for her to walk in her old age and at least live in indonesia that time not too harsh like in the mainland

    • @sixtogonzaga655
      @sixtogonzaga655 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +32

      ​@@roboaxe6688now its different people in the mainland are richer comlared to us filipino chinese. Most of my relatives now went back to china and theyre living better life than us here in the philippines

    • @Justin87878
      @Justin87878 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +33

      almost 25 years later, things changed so drastically between Indonesia (according to your name) and China. My cousin now lives in China with her now husband. It is 100X more advanced than Indonesia.

  • @SPLToronto
    @SPLToronto 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    I like that woman; she can think for herself yet trying to save others.

  • @pv-mm2or
    @pv-mm2or 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I was enjoying this documentary until distracted by the sound track music, It was like having someone trying to speak over and interrupting the speaker. Too much I will have to switch off!

  • @futo
    @futo 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +67

    it's shocking that it took 2006 to ban North Korean ships from their port, and the fact repatriation ended in 1984. Like how did the US not get involved in this and say to Japanese government for being aware of everything from the start

    • @brendon1689
      @brendon1689 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      why do you think? do you seriously think that the us wasn't aware? japan was under direct military occupation by the us for a time
      likely story is that the us knew and was perfectly fine with it so that their vassal remains loyal
      just like the soviets hated uprisings against their puppets, so too does the us

    • @Flyingpotatos
      @Flyingpotatos 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yes. US is friend to Japan so there is no support for North korean.

    • @Low_commotion
      @Low_commotion 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      As an American, my opinion is that if they really wanted to leave even in the 1980s when it was more obvious, they should be able to do so. That's the essence of freedom & liberalism, it's the only system that freely lets you turn your back on it without consequence (from the liberal society at least).

    • @robertortiz-wilson1588
      @robertortiz-wilson1588 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Those individuals had probably already bought into socialist ideology at that point. They may have thought it would’ve been a liability to force them to stay.
      Very tragic for those souls. Should’ve intervened earlier.

    • @hansfrankfurter2903
      @hansfrankfurter2903 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Because both US and Japan don't care about Koreans.

  • @Iam-me
    @Iam-me 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    War is scary

  • @Marisanrisa
    @Marisanrisa หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The opposite sorta happened to my great grandparents. My great grandparents were Japanese living in what would be considered now North Korea, during the war. Once the war ended, my great grandfather was taken by the Soviet Union and was placed on a train to Serbia. He sensed that he was in danger and jumped out of the train, walking back home through the snow. He miraculously got back without losing a limb (he did have to amputate his toes years later from the frost bite though) and word spread about the soviets coming back for the rest. Many Japanese people traveled south of Korea, some leaving their kids believing that they may pass as Korean and live a better life. My great grandparents took their kids and traveled south. They got scammed when they tried to purchase a boat to japan. But later, the Japanese government sent a ship, allowing the Japanese people to come back to japan. My mother would tell me this story, which she heard from my grandmother, along with some additional information she found from research. Due to trauma, my great grandfather never talked about his experience in Serbia or the walk back, leaving only speculations.

  • @Pinky-gj2dd
    @Pinky-gj2dd 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Excellent video, but the background music is way too loud , at times it distracts so much you cannot pay attention to the video

  • @amberjin831
    @amberjin831 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +27

    The same happened in China within the Korean minority community too during that time.

    • @TheFriend2u
      @TheFriend2u 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Prove with facts please before you just ape words of western mainstream media.
      The world is already chaotic with fabricated lies & deceit corrupted by printed USD.

    • @robertortiz-wilson1588
      @robertortiz-wilson1588 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I did not know about this. During which years?

    • @theinvisibilitycloak
      @theinvisibilitycloak 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Yea, and I wonder why South China Morning Post doesn’t talk about that 🤔

    • @amberjin831
      @amberjin831 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I dont know the exact period of time but I believe it was during the end of 1940s up until mid1950s during which time Korean minorities(the official term for them in China) were allowed dual citizenship which provided legal grounds for many soldiers who had roots in Korean Peninsula or even born and still had living family members there at that time, to fight in Korean civil war. I have close family members from both sides of the peninsula and got to know that bit of history through my own family stories.@@robertortiz-wilson1588

  • @wicticsscareliageyt
    @wicticsscareliageyt 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    That’s horrifying

  • @Mr.User_7
    @Mr.User_7 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Interesting video but the background music is too loud.

  • @shio5186
    @shio5186 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    From what I've read, ethnic Koreans from both Japan and China immigrated to North Korea because NK was subsided by Soviet Union and quite doing well compared to Japan and China at that time. It's called returning to the paradise for a reason.
    Everyone wants to return to their homeland of course. There were also quite a number of South Koreans moving to NK at that time.

  • @goldeneggduck
    @goldeneggduck 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thanks I learnt something new.

  • @ThisVideoAnnoyedMe
    @ThisVideoAnnoyedMe 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Um bro, there was no VHS in the 60s... should have used a different clip for that part...

  • @insidertimes
    @insidertimes 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +55

    Thanks for the great short documentary SCMP! 🙏🏽🙏🏽 You sometimes don't know what to believe about North Korea. I wish that horrible dictatorship will soon end.

    • @ex0duzz
      @ex0duzz 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      They wish your horrible evil gov would end too. Probably your whole evil country which bombed and destroyed every single house and structure in their country and killed 1/10th of all Korean civilians in the Korean war and arbitrarily split their country in half and divided them and still occupy half their country till today.

    • @sjelucten7150
      @sjelucten7150 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Kim Jong Un, I heard, is not as bad as Joe Biden.

    • @rauljosemenendez8083
      @rauljosemenendez8083 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      ​@@sjelucten7150huh, it has nothing to do with Joe Biden lol

    • @rauljosemenendez8083
      @rauljosemenendez8083 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@sjelucten7150yet America is still #1 country XD

    • @CT-045
      @CT-045 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@sjelucten7150 praise him and follow him then, traitorous NK resident/followers cowards will not be tolerated

  • @Jace888
    @Jace888 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    Wow. Kudos to this documentary

  • @iceberg789
    @iceberg789 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    some people just have doomed fortune, no matter what way they go. 😟

  • @CharmingAthens
    @CharmingAthens 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    That gamble didn't pay off. Ouch.

    • @kbeautician
      @kbeautician 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      😅😂I’m saying🥲😫😩Now they’re “victims”😢🥺😩

  • @gabecodina
    @gabecodina 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The music is too loud, at least while you are talking

  • @elvinteo1081
    @elvinteo1081 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    I appreciate this kind of short documentary.

  • @janiskoh8393
    @janiskoh8393 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I would like to contact Ms. Park if she is living in Korea. My family is still in Tokyo and was involved with Japan's return to paradise scheme. Thank you for this informative program.

  • @pal2011
    @pal2011 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Wow, I learned so much from these 2 videos

  • @nightingale3.0
    @nightingale3.0 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    the music is louder Than the voice over

  • @tomeknaj
    @tomeknaj 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The dramatic music doesn't have to play loudly *all* the time, you know?

  • @alistairmcelwee7467
    @alistairmcelwee7467 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Why not just give those being interviewed or narrating a megaphone each so that they can shout over the background music and be heard?

    • @kbeautician
      @kbeautician 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Lol🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂

    • @kbeautician
      @kbeautician 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You coulda just said, The background music was too loud. But, you chose side splitting comedy🤣😂🤣😂

  • @leonjiang-kq2qo
    @leonjiang-kq2qo 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I want to know since when SCMP is more like VOA?

  • @AndrewHahaLee
    @AndrewHahaLee 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    All history has been constantly telling us - that it's never about which political system runs which country. A system is just there as a tool. it's the values embraced by those who run them. Whether Monarchy, Democratic or even Communist, any leader who thinks only about himself will make any system work for his own agenda.

    • @oxlip
      @oxlip 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      all history has been constantly telling us that large-scale communism always turns into a one-party dictatorship with awful human rights abuses and quality of life. capitalism is not perfect, but if one doesn't like life in a capitalist nation, they always have the option to leave. it's very clearly about which political system runs a country.

  • @DoneWithEvrything
    @DoneWithEvrything 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I had to read the title of this video twice. I have no words.

  • @cherylsemrau7100
    @cherylsemrau7100 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Please don't have music playing.

  • @davidcunningham2074
    @davidcunningham2074 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    really interesting

  • @goblinsdammit
    @goblinsdammit 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +28

    This doc makes it sound like Zainichi were unable to get Japanese citizenship, but is that true? Couldn't they have Japanese citizenship if they gave up their Korean citizenship (since Japan doesn't allow dual citizenship)?

    • @twist777hz
      @twist777hz 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +50

      Correct. Not only that, Zainichi Koreans have a fast-track to Japanese citizenship that's unavailable to other foreigners in Japan wishing to naturalize. The reason some Zainichi Koreans (remember: these people have no intention of ever returning to Korea) haven't taken up Japanese citizenship is that they believe it would dishonour their ancestors, not because there are legal roadblocks or institutional racism or whatever that prevent them from doing so.

    • @robertortiz-wilson1588
      @robertortiz-wilson1588 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@twist777hz thank you for sharing this vital piece of the puzzle! I did not know this.

    • @hansfrankfurter2903
      @hansfrankfurter2903 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Was that part of Japanese law back then or just now?@@twist777hz
      This doc clearly says they were citizenless after the war implying that they couldn't apply to Japanese citizenship or that it was virtually impossible to get it.

    • @yo2trader539
      @yo2trader539 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@hansfrankfurter2903 The requirement bar is set at the lowest for Zainichi Koreans for naturalization. However, naturalization was a taboo for the Zainichi Korean community, because they dreamed to return to the Korean peninsula once unified.
      There is a famous soccer player by the name of LEE Tadanari (李忠成). He naturalized to Japanese citizenship and played for the Japanese national team. While he carried a South Korean passport before naturalization, he had a relative who played for the North Korean national team.

    • @hansfrankfurter2903
      @hansfrankfurter2903 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@yo2trader539 that’s now, im taking about after WW2 up until the 80s.

  • @wdynpn
    @wdynpn 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +26

    The reason why north korean left japan was because it was hard for koreans to get a respectable jobs in japan, that's why many yakuza are of korean descent

    • @jeanmiyu6904
      @jeanmiyu6904 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

      No. Koreans could return to South too. Those who chose North just love Northern Kim and/or had an interest in living paradise.

    • @wdynpn
      @wdynpn 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@jeanmiyu6904 this is video about North Korea, but ok

    • @twist777hz
      @twist777hz 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      In the chaotic postwar years, joining a yakuza was the easiest way to make a living. Not dissimilar to poor Italian-American immigrants joining mafias in NYC and Chicago.

    • @lenawagenfuehr53
      @lenawagenfuehr53 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Most Yakuza are Japanese, belonging to the Burakumin outcaste

  • @user-cd4bx6uq1y
    @user-cd4bx6uq1y 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    North Korea and Iran are surprisingly interesting while also being terrifying

    • @lenawagenfuehr53
      @lenawagenfuehr53 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      And the USA is held up as a shining light...🤮

  • @TheMilpitasguy
    @TheMilpitasguy 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +38

    It's because Koreans are viewed as 2nd-class citizens in Japan, even those who have lived there for generations. The sting of this discrimination (even if Japanese officials refused to admit it) is what caused them to leave.

    • @reneecaballero9624
      @reneecaballero9624 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      I've heard it's still very racist country. If you're not Japanese, people won't hire you or even do business with you. Just from videos I've seen of people asking questions on the street of Japan to foreigners living there.

    • @yanliew4027
      @yanliew4027 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Koreans would be better as migrants in Japan than other foreigners !

    • @Pepe-dq2ib
      @Pepe-dq2ib 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Then why did both china and south korea have the same program? Plenty of them left china and south korea to north korea too. Was south kore being racist towards them or they just wanted to return home no matter.

    • @kbeautician
      @kbeautician 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      They ont want their country invaded by foreigners. Let people be secluded if they wanna. Gheez, Karen. They can keep that place to themselves.

    • @user-gs7ev5hk3v
      @user-gs7ev5hk3v หลายเดือนก่อน

      It is difficult to live in harmony with people who worship dictatorships and are hostile to Japanese society.

  • @reekhavoc2932
    @reekhavoc2932 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Sad! Sooo sad...

  • @williamearl1662
    @williamearl1662 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Whats with the music? Does it have a function beyond being a distraction?

  • @santi6854
    @santi6854 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Music too loud!

  • @manomyth11
    @manomyth11 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Why is there such loud annoying music in the background', which is making it hard to hear people speaking'?🤔

  • @sjelucten7150
    @sjelucten7150 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Who divided and ruled them? it sounds familiar because it happened elsewhere in Asia as well?

  • @phoso1
    @phoso1 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Too complicated for me to understand, all human should have the right to travel freely without being bounded to one country.

    • @TiocfaidhArLa34
      @TiocfaidhArLa34 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      i agree. unfortunately some countries are so authoritarian and horrible to live in that if they allowed free travel, nobody would live there.

    • @lenawagenfuehr53
      @lenawagenfuehr53 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Oh stop pretending like this doesn't happen anywhere else. How welcoming is the USA to people fleeing drug cartels in central America?

  • @Lexyvil
    @Lexyvil 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I can already tell from the video title it wouldn't go to well...

  • @Crystal_G_1989
    @Crystal_G_1989 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Imagine from poverty and get invited to more hellish life.

  • @bobbarker1798
    @bobbarker1798 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    "Return to paradise" big promises but hardly a paradise without food.

  • @user-cw1bp9fj2e
    @user-cw1bp9fj2e 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    How sad. Bet theyre regretting it now

  • @KoRNeRd
    @KoRNeRd 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Music is so loud, I can barely understand people speaking.

  • @jinroh516
    @jinroh516 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    meanwhile, Yeonmi Park?

  • @apolakigamingandmore6376
    @apolakigamingandmore6376 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    *Bruh, I was confused at the title, I thought that 100,000 Japanese people left Japan for North Korea...*

  • @QuietJagung
    @QuietJagung 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    No mention of sanctions.

  • @Rushour717
    @Rushour717 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Maybe in the future there will BNO documentary about HKers in the UK

  • @Nakla
    @Nakla 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I heard of this story before
    NK was the more close one to diaspora people and was a bit more advanced than the South at the time

  • @casanovapilar
    @casanovapilar 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The music in the editing overlaps with the voices. It's disturbing not being able to hear people’s voices properly. Sorry😢

  • @tantradossantos4501
    @tantradossantos4501 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Eye-opening... 😮

  • @samgold9151
    @samgold9151 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Can you provide?
    South Korea Community in Japan
    Korean Language
    Japanese Language
    Accessible for you

  • @tristanlee6538
    @tristanlee6538 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    i wonder if it so bad , why didn’t they move to south korea instead of north korea ? i don’t get the reason. was there no repartition for south korea ?

    • @funkysagancat3295
      @funkysagancat3295 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      NK was way ahead at the time, looks like a very logical conclusion

  • @weiliyin909
    @weiliyin909 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    So, this is Koreans living in Japan going back to Korea. The thumbnail is really misleading.

  • @DK-mq9zf
    @DK-mq9zf 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Uh... No name for the Asian lady that says she has a youtube channel? No name, no link. Nothing?

  • @lachatala
    @lachatala 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    She’s amazing

  • @pimpdaddy7710
    @pimpdaddy7710 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I bet they regret it now.

  • @AZ-tx5yd
    @AZ-tx5yd 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +51

    The more I learn about the history of Japan the more I shudder…

    • @Jake-zk3eb
      @Jake-zk3eb 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

      I feel the same way about the US

    • @rowbearly6128
      @rowbearly6128 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

      As opposed to....where? Please tell me the culture that has no dark stories?

    • @KF-zb6gi
      @KF-zb6gi 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Agree

    • @aprilzhang1063
      @aprilzhang1063 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Most countries haven’t committed crimes like USA, Japan, Germany, UK...just learn a bit of history.

    • @robertortiz-wilson1588
      @robertortiz-wilson1588 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Compared to what? Your lack of knowledge of the rest of the world and human history?

  • @pimpdaddy7710
    @pimpdaddy7710 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I pick sushi over Kim chi anytime

  • @littleowlbooks8514
    @littleowlbooks8514 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    So many Chinese/ Russian bots on here

  • @oschits-sentai2127
    @oschits-sentai2127 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

    The Japanese government effectively drove them out without actually deporting them. What a progamer.

    • @lenawagenfuehr53
      @lenawagenfuehr53 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Ever hear of the Windrush scandal in the UK?

  • @archivist68
    @archivist68 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    Does anyone here know why so many Koreans, North and South, relocated to Japan under its colonial rule? Was it for economic reasons? Were they forced, as a subjugated people? The documentary says that at the end of the war there were about 1 million Koreans in Japan. This particular history is new to me.

    • @N_May1
      @N_May1 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      Breeding purposes. A lot of males that didn't obey to be sent as soldiers were killed off, and women were either sent back to Japan to be married off to soldiers who were promised wives/women for service. Mainly, Japan needed women to breed them fresh soldiers because many Japanese died in the initial stages of WW2. A lot of Koreans also ended up in Russia. There's a colony of Koreans living as Russians.

    • @coffeelink943
      @coffeelink943 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      To increase their population to have new future recruitment for their army generation

    • @yo2trader539
      @yo2trader539 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      There were no military conscription for Koreans. And Japan had a massive labor shortage during the final phases of the war.

    • @mojabaka
      @mojabaka 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Both. Some of them moved due to economic reasons, others (around 150.000) were taken forcibly to work in mines and factories.

    • @dorjiphalam
      @dorjiphalam 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Cheap labor. Men shortages.

  • @willthix3822
    @willthix3822 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Could you do a story on how China and North korea compare on the global freedom index scale?

    • @lenawagenfuehr53
      @lenawagenfuehr53 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      The name alone is pure propaganda - you can't believe a "scale" like that

  • @vinzanity68
    @vinzanity68 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Informative. I hope North Koreans finally rise up and topple the communist regime.

  • @Clan501-Scotland
    @Clan501-Scotland 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I get ads after 1 minute now. Time for premium

  • @irawilliams343
    @irawilliams343 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +22

    This is just sad. While I absolutely loathe the oppressive regime of North Korea, I can't blame them for the hatred they felt for Japan.

    • @futo
      @futo 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      and still no accountability from Japan

    • @TiocfaidhArLa34
      @TiocfaidhArLa34 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@futo ?

    • @yo2trader539
      @yo2trader539 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      They should leave Japan if they don't want to live in Japan. North Korea sounds like a heaven on earth.

    • @irawilliams343
      @irawilliams343 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@yo2trader539 so a country that starves it own people while building nuclear weapons is a heaven on earth?

    • @TiocfaidhArLa34
      @TiocfaidhArLa34 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@yo2trader539 NK doesn't have food. Semantics I guess.

  • @benvad9010
    @benvad9010 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    They were a part of the Empire of Japan and had citizenship but their co-ethnics wanted an independent republic, so that being said they have a foreign nationality and their country is not in Japan. The Japan gives them a lot of leeway and options. They can easily nationalize but that requires acquiring a Japanese name and identity secondly they can repatriate to either of the Koreas and thirdly remain a Special Permanent Resident (which is a resident of Japan with special rights), they can reside and work but they can not have any say in Japan, vote or are barred from certain employment. They have a wide variety of choices to choose from. They never seem to want to return to their homeland for some strange reason? South Korea is a first world prosperous nation and they make it clear that they don't want to be Japanese. Maybe they should go to Korea?