🚨STATEMENT 🚨 This video IS NOT a negative video. I have already seen too many incorrect comments claiming that I have bad intentions. Just like my Beijing Hutong video I want to show the real everyday life of the people who live in side streets of these megacities. These are the great people whose cultures, life-long work, and heritage, these cities have been built on and instead of showing the Bund of Shanghai, I want to show the real everyday people. The construction work on the Grandma's home in NOT negative and in the video, if you watch it, you will see that I am curious as to what is happening so instead of assuming, we actually ask a construction worker who informs us of their government-led project to renovate the exterior of these 100-year-old heritage houses to preserve the identity of the Long Tangs for years to come. I said I feel sorry for the grandma, but this doesn't mean I think that the work shouldn't happen. If MY grandma wanted work done on her house, like a new roof for example, even if she asked for it to be done and paid for it to be done, I would still feel sorry for her that her peaceful home had loud noises and construction men all over it - it's part of life but I will not be criticized for showing empathy to an elderly woman who's residence has become noisy. Again, that doesn't mean I somehow disagree with the construction. I love China and especially showing the everyday people of this country, that's what I'm passionate about. I wouldn't try my best to learn Mandarin and even some Shanghainese, just to go and make a negative video about that place - that would be stupid.
Your video is really one of a kind! Not many travelers, even Chinese, are willing to go so deep into the local life. I lived in Shanghai for 2 years in the past and I have never talked with those local Shanghainess like you did!
I agree. Lived in Shanghai for 10 years, and attended middle school, high school and college there. Haven’t really been to those older areas. Didn’t even know people just put their stuff outside around their doors 😂😂.
What sets your vlogs apart from other youtubers is that your focus is not on the usual places of interest, which honestly is flooding all over youtube. Rather, your angle is more down-to-earth in trying to understand more about the locals' mundane lifestyle. Since you can't please everyone and if some people can only accept 100% positive things but not a fair bit of negative albeit you're showing the raw footage / truth, then so be it. Do maintain your unique style.. Keep it up!
@@JackAynsleyTravel But actually the restaurant is Henan flavor (and most probably run by Henan people). Also the beverages are not local, especially the soda, while soymilk is common but hard to say it's a local brand. Like other comment already suggested, you should try 黄酒 (yellow wine) which is almost only consumed in Yangtze delta area.
As a Chinese student living in the UK, I have had so many locals who are super friendly to me and helped me so much. I am glad to see you are also treated nicely in China, and I want to welcome more open minded people like you guys to come and visit China. We need more communication and mutual understanding of both our differences and similarities. We are all human beings at the end of the day, and I believe the nature of kindness from people no matter where you are. I get to travel to many countries and I love the experiences, I also hope people can fall in love with China and have a great experience there. It is a huge place, many I have never been to yet. Good opportunity for me to explore many cities virtually through your camera and your perspectives as foreigners.
Some residents of these old buildings in downtown Shanghai really enjoy living here, while others are waiting to relocate, though it has become increasingly difficult to move. We all grew up in these old buildings, but now many people have moved to the outskirts of Shanghai. Honestly, I really miss the atmosphere of these old buildings!
I know, I said in the video that its great theyre preserving the historical buildings and I feel sorry for the grandma who has to listen to the noise everyday. Its not a negative thing
The government will carry out external environmental renovations on overly old residential areas, all funded by the government, to maintain the cleanliness, tidiness, and modernization of the city
@@cong-organic Many Chinese think they never pay taxes. Because direct taxes only account for over 10% of the total tax revenue in China. On the contrary, in the United States, head tax, income tax, land use tax, property tax, and other direct taxes account for over 80% of taxes.
Renovation of old district is a headache of big cities in China, especially in Shanghai, because the shanghaines are extremely good at bargaining for their own benefits but at what costs to the city and general public? Not their problem. That's why Shanghai has the biggest slums among China cities, and these people live in "slums" are in fact super rich.
The first community you visited at the corner of 南京西路 and 陕西北路 is where my grandparents lived for 40 years. It was built by the Europeans like 100 years ago. Brings back my childhood merories watching your video. And about the strawberries, there is a very short period of time in late spring every year where you can get fresh in-season stawberries. They are jucy red and sweet, a little mushy and can quickly go off. But these strawberries beat those big whitish plasticky flavourless ones you get from the greenhouse the rest of the year by a mile. They are the only straberries I eat. We don't use "chi le ma" as greeting anymore. They was at least 40 years in the past. Please don't say that again, it's a little cringy. Great video as usual.
@@JackAynsleyTravel "Lao Tie" is a Northeastern dialect. You don't need to say "Lao Tie" when talking to Shanghainese. Many Shanghainese look down on outsiders and think that outsiders are all rural areas, including Beijing. Hahahaha
@27:00 That Vitasoy is originated in Hong Kong, it's not a Shanghaiese drink. It's famous that you can actually find that in many China towns or Chinese supermarket throughout the world.
Damn... Imagine that my government renovate my old house for free... I will be so happy. And it will finished in 4 months not already worked for four months, your translator is no good😅
Shanghai has a lot of old alleys have all sorts of small mamma papa run restaurants. I just visited Shanghai. I stayed at Zhe Jiang Zhong Lu (浙江中路)。 Many restaurants in the alleys.
Many foreigners think they are being local by greeting ppl with "have you eaten?" This is actually not used at all these years, and even when used 15 years ago0, it's usually between ppl that know each other. So please stop saying that to random ppl on the street.
@@JackAynsleyTravel sir it depends. It's only applicable to people you know for a long time and It's either lunch or dinner time and you are asking so that if they say they Didn't you can invite em to come to your house to have something delicious although people Don't usually say they didn’t eat except family and good friends.
@@JackAynsleyTravel "have you eaten?" is say for people that you already know , it would sounds bit strange or akward if say it to strangers , trust me im native :D
Jack you are getting better and better. You have a brain that works right so therefore your vlogs are fun to watch. (Original Pakistani fan who now wants to explore the world through your eyes!)
The old lady said four months, which means it will take four months to complete the free renovation of the entire old community, not that it has been repaired for four months. Your brother who can speak Chinese needs to improve his Chinese listening skills, haha
these old communities are just like mines in Shanghai. That old lady has same age of my mom. Life in old community is never boring. These interactions with neighbors are the main social activities or entertainment after retirement.
China is a massive interesting country would love to visit one day love your videos Jack especially your Pakistan vlogs would love to see you go back there again 🤩❤️💯
Hundred percent understand, as a local I have to say that beside those tourist areas, normal Shanghai people’s lives are just like the lives in nearby provinces like zhejiang and jiangsu
I think museum will also be a good place to watch out for.And I really feel a bit weird about “real China” the underdeveloped or old area is real China and the high tech/ modern area are also real China, China has so many aspects.
The point is that these are the people, culture and traditions on which all the modern elements of the city are built on. We should celebrate the real Shanghainese heritage
You are the most friendly person I have ever seen to China. You are very fair in reporting what you have seen and heard. Welcome to Taiwan, China one day
Highly recommend another city located at Bohai bay north of China which is the biggest coastline city of north and 2nd biggest city 100years ago had 9 different concessions which is unique of the whole of world.The street scenery is very close to Shanghai since foods and culture diverse.Finally it’s just take less than half hour by Bullet train from Beijing and is the fastest train line in China The city of Tianjin .Still Called Tientsin century before
If you are still in Shanghai, I suggest you go to Songjiang, which has the highest mountain and the largest university city in Shanghai. You can see college students from various provinces in China, and you can freely enter and exit these universities. And there is a beautiful European style town
One thing that stands out to what's so common in other similar places in most Western cities, throughout the exploration in the back alley of Shanghai, I did not see any drug dealers, hookers, beggars, etc harassing you for money....and all the narrow streets are relatively rubbish free, and no homeless people around either.
00:03:45 Actually, these so called original Shanghainese has not been here too long. They are all descendants of migrants from Jiangsu or Zhejiang province as Shanghai opened as a trade port after First Opium War.
The bird you saw saying Happy New Year is called Ba Ge 八哥 (Latin: Acridotheres cristatellus), which is a very smart type of bird can mimic different types of sound, just like parrot. 😄
6:01 "She's looking very concerned." You have a translator with you. Why did you not just *ask her* as opposed to making assumptions? She *_might_* be concerned but maybe for reasons that you are unaware of that might surprise you. This *_before_* stating anything on camera. Edit: I see at 9:10 from her own words that she could care less. A better question to ask would have been: "Exactly what do they 'renovate'? The wires? The materials, the structure? Roof? Windows? Walls? Foundation? Solar? These would be very insightful.
It looks like you stepped into the inner-city slums, which are called 棚户区. Those rundown houses are very cramped, and most units don't have a bathroom or kitchen. Typically, 3-4 people live in a 300 square foot space. the irony is that there are always some upscale apartments next to those neighborhoods, which cost millions of dollars.
In Shanghai, these older buildings generally lack independent kitchen and bathroom spaces. Typically, 3 to 4 families share one kitchen, creating significant fire hazards. Very few people in this old city area have independent bathrooms, and the vast majority of residents need to deposit their feces in containers at home and transport them to designated locations outside to dispose of them. If you are lucky enough that your house was included in the government's old city renovation plan, the government will buy your house at a price higher than the usual market rate (commonly known as demolition compensation). The government's prerequisite for successfully demolishing the old city area is to obtain the consent of the residents in two consecutive votes. In the first vote, more than 90% of the residents need to approve the government's demolition plan for it to pass. In the second vote, 85% of the residents must agree to the government's compensation plan (i.e., be satisfied with the amount of compensation) for it to pass. Only after both votes pass can the demolition be officially initiated. The compensation plan for each renovation site is publicly available and can be checked online. On average, each household can receive compensation of 4 to 5 million RMB (equivalent to 550,000 to 690,000 USD), with the amount depending on the size of your house. Residents can choose to accept the government's proposal to purchase houses specifically designated for demolition households in the suburbs of Shanghai (at a lower price than the market rate), or they can choose to purchase commercial housing themselves. However, whether such a situation can happen where you live entirely depends on urban planning and local government finances. In other words, if you're "unlucky," you might not be able to benefit from such policies for many years. Just like the elderly woman in the video who has lived there her whole life, their housing conditions might be better than the ones mentioned earlier, but not by much. Fortunately, if your place doesn't get to enjoy the aforementioned policies, the city government will still regularly allocate funds to repair public parts of your house, including corridors, exterior walls, and surrounding infrastructure, just like what's happening in the video. Now, this is my personal opinion. As a tourist, it is natural to want to see some of the city's history preserved, but only the original residents can truly understand the inconvenience of living in these old buildings. For the original residents, if your home undergoes a significant renovation project, it means you've missed out on a government-led demolition project (typically, when they want to improve their living conditions by selling their houses to buy others, they can only sell for 2-3 million RMB. This price is far lower than the compensation offered by the government). In other words, it means they won't receive a generous demolition compensation agreement for at least several years. This is why the elderly woman in the video doesn't seem particularly happy. For someone her age, she might not to see the next large-scale old city renovation project.
Now that you are in Shanghai, I highly recommend you to see Chinese musicals and dance dramas! It can be said that Shanghai has gathered many outstanding actors in the country, and has the most novel theater operation mode! To some extent, it represents cultural trends. The Huangpu district (which is very close to the Bund) has a number of very popular theaters. If you're interested, I can recommend you a few shows
I like you always try to speak local dialect. Even only few words will make you closer to the locals. Can‘t wait to see you in Guangdong and hear you speak Cantonese.
Hey Jack, when you see people saying you have bad intention, remember there are two types: 1: Some real Chinese mainland people do get very sensitive about these contents these days. We Chinese also know how some of the bad medias depicting us, and we have seen some of the foreigners intentionally filming and exaggerating some facts, this is why we got so sensitive sometimes. This is not a very big problem for you, I believe you two are good and kind people, your actions and time will comfort their sensitivity. 2: It can be seen that some bad guys pretending they are Chinese but making some really extreme comments, they want others to think some Chinese are "extreme", I think you should be extra careful about some strange comments that seems very extreme, they are not from the brain of any normal people, don't mind them. This is a really bad era for Internet, people just likes to fight with each other online, and there are too many groups of people having their own intentions, they don't mind to make the whole situation more chaotic, it do need bravery to make such videos. Hope every goes well with your whole journey!
Don't underestimate these old houses that look shabby. One set costs more than 10 million yuan, and some old houses are worth hundreds of millions of yuan. It's amazing, isn't it? If these houses were not valuable, the locals who drive Porsche Maybach would not live here.
The old house in Longtang is real Shanghai/China, the fancy modern new highrise apartment complex is also real Shanghai/China. If you meant "normal" by "real" then in fact the normal Chinese people majority are living in hundreds of Chinese cities with good infrastructure and in those modern apartment with a good living standards. It's most of the old who still stay in Longtang because they have spent their whole time there, they may own a modern apartment somewhere else, their children may live in one of these apartment, but it doesn't mean that they are the majority people with a normal living condition. You do see more old than young in Hutong and Longtang, right? However, China is huge, there are always huge population in different level. But we can see the change over the decades. In the past more people lived in Longtang or in rural area but now more people live in modern cities. This is the change brought by fast economy development, support from government, and hardwork of Chinese people, and this is the real life of China.
Haha, actually the staff in the resteraunt are not Shanghai local. They are probably from the north as you can tell from their accent. So when Jack tried to speak Shanghainese to them, their reactions were all like: ? In addition, the "traditional Shanghainese" drinks are not Shanghai original, either. The soybean milk (Vitasoyis) a Hongkong brand, and the "fanta"(Dayao) is an inner mongolia brand which is very popular in the northeast provinces.
Welcome to the city , people , food come from everywhere and that is what really city it is! If you like to see ‘ real local’ you have to go back your village, where everyone born and dead in same place !
@@hahahahahahahahahahahahaha64 Agree. Shanghai is an international metropolis where you can find people, cuisines, and cultures from all over the world. However, when we talk about Shanghai local cuisine, "Benbangcai" and "Xiaolongbao"are definitely considered to be characteristic of Shanghai. In the video, Jack and the guide asked the staff lady if the drink was very Shanghainese, and I believe he intended to know if it was a traditional local beverage of Shanghai. The lady however answered these two type of drink are very popular in Shanghai. So I don't think Jack has got the correct information about the drinks.
1:44 very likely those were built by the french too from 100 years ago. edit: just look at those cars parked in that area. I have yet to see a toyota or honda :DDD And each piece of those back alley spot is worth at least a couple million when the eventual rebuild happens. edit again: 11:43 was that real???!
It was so funny to hear you speak Shanghainese :-). It's always fun to talk with Shanghainese aunties and uncles if one can speak the local language well.
Let me tell you the truth about "Have you eaten yet". At least in Beijing, since the beginning of the last century, people's standard of living was not high, and eating was the biggest thing, people would meet and greet each other and ask each other "Have you eaten yet", and if the other person looked embarrassed and did not answer positively, it meant that the other person had a hard time lately, and the person who was having a hard time would be entertained, and the person who greeted him would help the other person, such as sending some grain. If the person does not answer positively, it means that he or she has been living in a difficult situation. Of course, the situation of not being able to afford to eat did not exist several decades ago, but such a way of greeting has been retained. This kind of greeting behavior is regarded as the greatest goodwill. People who really care about you will care whether you have enough to eat or not, and if you are starving, then they will help you with some food to solve the problem of eating, or even help you fundamentally, such as helping you to find a better job, or other problems. You can think of the question "Have you eaten?" You can think of this question as "How have you been?" Of course, "Have you eaten?" is a much kinder and more tactful way of asking "How have you been?"
Lol this is absolutely wrong. "This kind of greeting behavior is regarded as the greatest goodwill. " It'll be only considered as a weird move if a foreigner greets a local stranger with "Have you eaten". AND " "Have you eaten?" is a much kinder and more tactful way of asking "How have you been?"" this is wrong too, 最近怎么样(how have you been?) can't be replaced by 吃了吗（have you eaten）, this just doesn't make sense
If you want to explore what ordinary, common life looks like in China I would definitely recommend visiting Changsha and Chengdu which are famous for a lively ordinary life. But maybe you need to get used to eating spicy things first
🚨STATEMENT 🚨 This video IS NOT a negative video. I have already seen too many incorrect comments claiming that I have bad intentions. Just like my Beijing Hutong video I want to show the real everyday life of the people who live in side streets of these megacities. These are the great people whose cultures, life-long work, and heritage, these cities have been built on and instead of showing the Bund of Shanghai, I want to show the real everyday people.
The construction work on the Grandma's home in NOT negative and in the video, if you watch it, you will see that I am curious as to what is happening so instead of assuming, we actually ask a construction worker who informs us of their government-led project to renovate the exterior of these 100-year-old heritage houses to preserve the identity of the Long Tangs for years to come. I said I feel sorry for the grandma, but this doesn't mean I think that the work shouldn't happen. If MY grandma wanted work done on her house, like a new roof for example, even if she asked for it to be done and paid for it to be done, I would still feel sorry for her that her peaceful home had loud noises and construction men all over it - it's part of life but I will not be criticized for showing empathy to an elderly woman who's residence has become noisy. Again, that doesn't mean I somehow disagree with the construction.
I love China and especially showing the everyday people of this country, that's what I'm passionate about. I wouldn't try my best to learn Mandarin and even some Shanghainese, just to go and make a negative video about that place - that would be stupid.
没事，我们就是要看真实，是什么就是什么，你只管拍，不爱看的 自己买张票去看看
你误会了，其实是翻译稍微有些误解或者是你们用英语的表达方式和中国人用中文的表达方式，会产生日常思维和语境上的不同，通过翻译，双方理解会产生歧义，这其实是二种语言的表达方式不同而产生的差异误解。很多中国人帮助你解释，其实你要理解，因为中国🇨🇳长期被西方媒体的造谣抹黑，比如bbc，cnn……这些垃圾媒体，它们毫无底线的造谣中国和欺骗西方读者，造成中国在国际读者中太多的负面形象。所以当你的视频中，可能出现一些翻译中的小误解，大量中国人就会帮助自己的国家进行解释，他们其实并不是针对你，而是怕其它读者误会，因为我们已经被这些西方垃圾媒体撒谎欺骗而害惨了，这些流氓媒体用谎言给西方读者洗脑来讨厌中国，而西方政府也在故意纵容和资助这些媒体。因为在中国，如果哪个媒体报道虚假新闻或造谣，将会收到法律的处罚，因为中国社会是有道德底线的。再一个，中国媒体大多数对西方的报道，长期以来，尤其是自媒体，相对来说，都是正面的，美好的。只有近几年，由于中国的强力崛起，西方政府莫名其妙的感到恐惧，它们开始疯狂的抹黑和造谣中国，中国的一些自媒体也逐渐转变态度，开始报道一些西方的阴暗面，但是都是真实的，极少出现造谣欺骗的内容。但大多数中国人还是本能的认为，西方社会是美好的，因为他们大多数人没有出国的经历，对西方美好的想象，还停留在上个世纪中国比较落后，西方比较发达的印象之中。而面对这些无耻的西方媒体，中国人已经受够了！所以才会帮助你解释一些小误解，完全没有针对你们个人，大家都知道，你们是好人，拍了真实的视频，给大家看，来消除对中国🇨🇳的误解
Love yout videos
说出自己最真实的感受即可，中国不需要别人一味的吹捧，相反我们更欢迎外国友人理性真实客观的指出问题和不足之处。当你由于语言的原因无法真切理解甚至误解的话，大家只是在评论区给你正确指正。没必要这样紧张，做好你自己就好，我喜欢你们这样深入当地最平民的生活圈子，真的很棒，继续享受中国之旅吧🎉
welcome to Chongmjng, an island in Shanghai
Your video is really one of a kind! Not many travelers, even Chinese, are willing to go so deep into the local life. I lived in Shanghai for 2 years in the past and I have never talked with those local Shanghainess like you did!
I agree. Lived in Shanghai for 10 years, and attended middle school, high school and college there. Haven’t really been to those older areas. Didn’t even know people just put their stuff outside around their doors 😂😂.
What sets your vlogs apart from other youtubers is that your focus is not on the usual places of interest, which honestly is flooding all over youtube. Rather, your angle is more down-to-earth in trying to understand more about the locals' mundane lifestyle.
Since you can't please everyone and if some people can only accept 100% positive things but not a fair bit of negative albeit you're showing the raw footage / truth, then so be it. Do maintain your unique style.. Keep it up!
Another wonderful video..
Love it. Lunch looks absolutely delicious, ngl
Ah it was amazing, really glad we went there. Proper good food for an amazing price!
@@JackAynsleyTravel But actually the restaurant is Henan flavor (and most probably run by Henan people). Also the beverages are not local, especially the soda, while soymilk is common but hard to say it's a local brand. Like other comment already suggested, you should try 黄酒 (yellow wine) which is almost only consumed in Yangtze delta area.
As a Chinese student living in the UK, I have had so many locals who are super friendly to me and helped me so much. I am glad to see you are also treated nicely in China, and I want to welcome more open minded people like you guys to come and visit China. We need more communication and mutual understanding of both our differences and similarities. We are all human beings at the end of the day, and I believe the nature of kindness from people no matter where you are. I get to travel to many countries and I love the experiences, I also hope people can fall in love with China and have a great experience there. It is a huge place, many I have never been to yet. Good opportunity for me to explore many cities virtually through your camera and your perspectives as foreigners.
You are the friendly, real China. Welcome.
Thank you so much!
Everytime you visit to a city,you experiences local culture in a tangible way.Jack is a language genius😀
Some residents of these old buildings in downtown Shanghai really enjoy living here, while others are waiting to relocate, though it has become increasingly difficult to move. We all grew up in these old buildings, but now many people have moved to the outskirts of Shanghai. Honestly, I really miss the atmosphere of these old buildings!
这些市中心的老住宅太值钱了 没有开发商拆得起啊
我的大伯住在上海南京路附近的弄堂里，就一间小屋，爬梯子可以上阁楼，10平方都不到，他有四个子女。十几年前听他们介绍说别看这一间小屋，如果拆迁的话，只要户口在这，结过婚的子女政府就会根据户口一家分一套拆迁房，我也不知道是不是真的。这么多年过去了，也不知道房子拆了没有。
@@yuda4812 上海早就不按照户口分房了。现在动迁都是明码标价公开透明每一户拿的到多少钱都是能自己算出来的。总之现在户口多已经没用了。按照面积赔钱的。
@@CL-hk5tj 谢谢说明。按您的介绍，上海确实实行过按户口分房的政策。
@@leonlili5312 还有一些建筑已经纳入了保护建筑行列就更不可能拆了。我有一些同学住在这些老建筑里，据说他们也不期待拆迁了，政府在居住条件上已经提供不少帮助了！还有些是原拆原还的就更加舒服了！既有舒适生活条件，还是内环以内的生活氛围！🤩🤩🤩
The bird is so funny 😂😂😂
Took be by surprise big time
NIce tour, I like to experience local life too, feels so much alive
Agreed 🙌
老人家說自己年紀大，所以不去外面找房子。但是她本人對這個房屋加固工程並不反對。100年的房子如果不好好加固，到時候塌了就會出人命。這是一個惠民工程。
I know, I said in the video that its great theyre preserving the historical buildings and I feel sorry for the grandma who has to listen to the noise everyday. Its not a negative thing
@@JackAynsleyTravel上面的朋友只是帮您翻译一下，因为老人讲的是上海话，我们很多中国人也听不懂😅😅😅惠民工程都会有两面性，北京政府有给很多旧的楼房安装免费电梯，方便住户上下楼，但是也会有人反对，政府只能不断劝说甚至补偿，但是还是会听从大多数民意不断改善。当你们深入了解中国实际情况后，你会为中国政府的繁重工作感到吃惊的。。。我是中国改革开放的同龄人，五十多年看着我们国家从无到有，心里是万分感激我们政府的。其中中国人最忍辱负重的十多年我在美国，现在回想起来，心里很愧疚！祝玩的快乐！欢迎有机会再来北京旅行！😊😊😊
@@Oldbrow对 像中国政府这样为人民服务的，全世界真的再也找不出来了，就算中国共产党政府有的时候做的有些错误，但是他们所有的事情都是在为人民着想和谋利❤，很感谢我们的政府❤
@@Oldbrow 人家也没问你啊，也没多说啥，你还讲上课了。
@@JackAynsleyTravel 支持你
The government will carry out external environmental renovations on overly old residential areas, all funded by the government, to maintain the cleanliness, tidiness, and modernization of the city
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That's amazing.. 😮
@@zhangwhackThat's how taxes are supposed to be used, isn't it ?
@@cong-organic Many Chinese think they never pay taxes. Because direct taxes only account for over 10% of the total tax revenue in China.
On the contrary, in the United States, head tax, income tax, land use tax, property tax, and other direct taxes account for over 80% of taxes.
You are guys the grandpas and grandmas love best.
Renovation of old district is a headache of big cities in China, especially in Shanghai, because the shanghaines are extremely good at bargaining for their own benefits but at what costs to the city and general public? Not their problem.
That's why Shanghai has the biggest slums among China cities, and these people live in "slums" are in fact super rich.
不是以前发生过开着宝马去领救济金的😂
The first community you visited at the corner of 南京西路 and 陕西北路 is where my grandparents lived for 40 years. It was built by the Europeans like 100 years ago. Brings back my childhood merories watching your video. And about the strawberries, there is a very short period of time in late spring every year where you can get fresh in-season stawberries. They are jucy red and sweet, a little mushy and can quickly go off. But these strawberries beat those big whitish plasticky flavourless ones you get from the greenhouse the rest of the year by a mile. They are the only straberries I eat. We don't use "chi le ma" as greeting anymore. They was at least 40 years in the past. Please don't say that again, it's a little cringy. Great video as usual.
Thank you for your kind words and feed back. Chi le ma lao tie? 😆
@@JackAynsleyTravel "Lao Tie" is a Northeastern dialect. You don't need to say "Lao Tie" when talking to Shanghainese. Many Shanghainese look down on outsiders and think that outsiders are all rural areas, including Beijing. Hahahaha
@@JackAynsleyTravel 以前的人活动范围小，娱乐活动比较少，一般都是吃过饭出门散步，喷到熟人会用‘吃过了吗/你吃了吗’来打招呼聊天。现在的人都住的比较分散，邻居之间也没那么熟悉，还是用‘你好’比较合适。如果是比较熟悉的朋友问‘你吃了吗’可能有请客吃饭，聚会的意思，如果对方回复没吃，你又没有回复那就很尴尬。针对完全陌生的人，对方已经注意到你，还是用你好，对方如果有回应，可以问在‘你在做什么’之类的打开话题
@@fantasycelestial2908其实东北喊老铁的也不多😂都在快手上了
@@JackAynsleyTravel 我们家一般都问 中午吃了吗？ 没吃一起出去整点~!😀
Constantly making bangers a million times better than all the tripe China content on TH-cam 🇨🇳 Legends.
EllisWR is my hero 🤙🏻
@27:00 That Vitasoy is originated in Hong Kong, it's not a Shanghaiese drink. It's famous that you can actually find that in many China towns or Chinese supermarket throughout the world.
Exactly. As a Hongkonger, I confirm that Vitasoy is a famous Hong Kong brand.😊
just the brand is from hk but soy milk is very much a Shanghai drink too.
So important for precision 😉
yep. the authentic Shanghai style soybean drink is salty style.
Loved your vid , brilliant as always and the food looked de❤❤ xx
Damn... Imagine that my government renovate my old house for free... I will be so happy. And it will finished in 4 months not already worked for four months, your translator is no good😅
Hes not a translator, hes a friend 😊❤️😆
@@JackAynsleyTravelhahahaha
The four-month period refers to the completion of the entire community.🤣
这翻泽是外国人，关键时刻他也没弄明白😅当然不能很好转述😊
@@JackAynsleyTravel your friend is pretty handsome!
Shanghai has a lot of old alleys have all sorts of small mamma papa run restaurants. I just visited Shanghai. I stayed at Zhe Jiang Zhong Lu (浙江中路)。 Many restaurants in the alleys.
Many foreigners think they are being local by greeting ppl with "have you eaten?" This is actually not used at all these years, and even when used 15 years ago0, it's usually between ppl that know each other. So please stop saying that to random ppl on the street.
On TH-cam everyone tells me to stop saying it. On Bilibili everyone loves it as asked why I didnt say it for a few vídeos. I can't win
‘Ni hao’ is the universal greeting acceptable everywhere. ‘Chi Le ma’ is only for family or old friends.
@@JackAynsleyTravel sir it depends. It's only applicable to people you know for a long time and It's either lunch or dinner time and you are asking so that if they say they Didn't you can invite em to come to your house to have something delicious although people Don't usually say they didn’t eat except family and good friends.
@@JackAynsleyTravel哈哈哈，他们告诉你不要说了，没有恶意，因为这句话主要是老北京人在胡同里居住时遇见熟人说的话，那是因为旧时候中国缺粮食，大家吃不饱很难去干活，所以这句话后面的意思是如果没有吃，来我家吃饭。后来时间长了就成了北京熟人间关心的问候语了，但是其它城市基本不这么用，特别是南方，你这么问南方人，通常他们不知道什么意思😂😂😂这句话用的比较狭窄，通常在北京，北方有些地方人认为比较亲切所以也用，但是南方恐怕很多人就反应不过来什么意思了🤣🤣🤣在中国一句“ni hao！”就足够通用了。祝快乐
@@JackAynsleyTravel "have you eaten?" is say for people that you already know , it would sounds bit strange or akward if say it to strangers , trust me im native :D
你的朋友翻译的有些小问题，这些建筑的外立面装修，都是上海市政府出钱，为这一片社区免费进行维修和翻新改造，而且每年都是有计划的为当地比较老的社区进行翻新改造，全部有当地政府出钱，老百姓自己不用花钱，每年政府都有专门的预算来翻新改造各类老旧社区，这是一项很大的项目，也会花很多的钱，这是中国🇨🇳政府给人们的巨大福利
So... I think he translated perfectly. Thats exactly what we said in the video
Renovation will finish 4 months later, not have been renovating for 4 months 😂
@@Acupuntor315你误会他的意思了，而且那个老太太自己也没说清楚，老太太只是自言自语说她没有钱，钱很少，意思是只能住在这里。他朋友翻译的有一点小问题，只有那位建筑工人说清楚了，他说是政府统一为这一片社区改造翻新房子外观的
那么政府的钱是谁的钱？
@@Acupuntor315 虽然这个平台有很多反华宣传，但也不用这么草木皆兵。多看几个这个博主的视频，可以知道他们是很客观友好的，只是在交流中有误解。反华账号流量可比这大多了，随便截点素材嚷嚷几句中国又要崩溃了都能吃喝不愁。
非常有趣，这期视频很接地气，非常真实，上海老弄堂房子年代比较久，需要维修可以保证未来能住的更安全舒适，哈
Thank you 🙏
我上次去上海，都还是冬天，特别特别冷，欢迎你们畅游中国
I went to Shanghai last time, it was still winter, really, really cold, so welcome you all to come explore China.
Hi Jack, always like your nice video. The Vitasoy bottle drink you drink in the noodle restaurant in Shanghai is original from Hong Kong.
Open, safe, and welcome to everyone visiting. you can record what you want to and upload in TH-cam. nothing to hide.
Hello I'm from hunza wow amazing video's i have watched your all vdeo's till now waiting for the nexr ...
Jack you are getting better and better. You have a brain that works right so therefore your vlogs are fun to watch. (Original Pakistani fan who now wants to explore the world through your eyes!)
Thank you so much for continuing to watch our videos brother!
The old lady said four months, which means it will take four months to complete the free renovation of the entire old community, not that it has been repaired for four months. Your brother who can speak Chinese needs to improve his Chinese listening skills, haha
these old communities are just like mines in Shanghai. That old lady has same age of my mom. Life in old community is never boring. These interactions with neighbors are the main social activities or entertainment after retirement.
the grandma said the repairing work needs totally 4 months, not already started for 4 months
Correct.
Jack's language talent is good enough to communicate with birds. LOL😂
China is a massive interesting country would love to visit one day love your videos Jack especially your Pakistan vlogs would love to see you go back there again 🤩❤️💯
I am Chinese, and I don't think this is a negative video. It just shows the real side.
nice video🎉you two r really lovely and polite❤Paige is sooo cute 🥰
Amazing Shanghai!!!!!❤❤❤❤❤👍👍👍👍👍💯💯💯💯💯👏👏👏👏👏🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹💪💪💪💪💪🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉
Welcome to travelling in China and thank you for your realistic reflection of the situation in China!
Life in these residential area is very laidback, confirmable, and intimacy.
Hundred percent understand, as a local I have to say that beside those tourist areas, normal Shanghai people’s lives are just like the lives in nearby provinces like zhejiang and jiangsu
你拍的非常棒我们普道老百姓就是喜欢真实的东西，如果虚假地吹捧反而不是好事，你的视频非常非常精彩，开开心心地完成你的旅行计划。❤❤❤
That bird is amazing.
👍✌😀 like your videos very much.
11:40 that bird is called 八哥 in mandarin, Crested Myna in English, they have amazing vocal abilities, they can sing like human as well.
I think museum will also be a good place to watch out for.And I really feel a bit weird about “real China” the underdeveloped or old area is real China and the high tech/ modern area are also real China, China has so many aspects.
The point is that these are the people, culture and traditions on which all the modern elements of the city are built on. We should celebrate the real Shanghainese heritage
Western guys only approved modernization in the west but always hope Asians forever underdeveloped.😂@@JackAynsleyTravel
@@JackAynsleyTravel如果像深入体验本地生活，个人感觉还是北京胡同比较适合，因为大家习惯傍晚在胡同里聊天吃饭交友，上海里弄里面比较少。。。
Big fan brother from Pakistan 🇵🇰
Nice velog brother 🥰
Have you explored community canteens in Shanghai? That will be fun.
对的 都是政府资助的，饭菜既便宜，又好吃，室内环境装修的又特别好❤
amazing video❤❤❤😊
As a Shanghainese ,I have never been to a "gandpa‘s garage ",btw that orange juice is not that traditional,soy milk is.Wonderful video!
中餐讲究色香味俱全，很高兴听到你说so much colour来肯定它
🎉支持你们
Maybe I met you a little late, but I still want to welcome you to China, best wishes for you, love from China❤
Paige telling Jack…”The strawberries are just soft like you”😂 Dont worry Jack, my wife would say im soft to. 😂😂 As always much live from Maine,USA❤
You are the most friendly person I have ever seen to China. You are very fair in reporting what you have seen and heard. Welcome to Taiwan, China one day
Highly recommend another city located at Bohai bay north of China which is the biggest coastline city of north and 2nd biggest city 100years ago had 9 different concessions which is unique of the whole of world.The street scenery is very close to Shanghai since foods and culture diverse.Finally it’s just take less than half hour by Bullet train from Beijing and is the fastest train line in China
The city of Tianjin .Still Called Tientsin century before
If you are still in Shanghai, I suggest you go to Songjiang, which has the highest mountain and the largest university city in Shanghai. You can see college students from various provinces in China, and you can freely enter and exit these universities. And there is a beautiful European style town
喜欢兄弟的风格，期待兄弟未来拍伦敦的景点
One thing that stands out to what's so common in other similar places in most Western cities, throughout the exploration in the back alley of Shanghai, I did not see any drug dealers, hookers, beggars, etc harassing you for money....and all the narrow streets are relatively rubbish free, and no homeless people around either.
Very clean alleyways, no trash.
00:03:45 Actually, these so called original Shanghainese has not been here too long. They are all descendants of migrants from Jiangsu or Zhejiang province as Shanghai opened as a trade port after First Opium War.
我是一个中国人，我觉得这是一个很好的视频。真实的中国生活
The bird you saw saying Happy New Year is called Ba Ge 八哥 (Latin: Acridotheres cristatellus), which is a very smart type of bird can mimic different types of sound, just like parrot. 😄
Welcome to Hefei!
合肥人素质低
很真实的视频♥，感谢博主的分享
非常有质量，有深度的视频❤❤
Shanghai misses you both - until next time, 加油酒仙！
LOL your friend Max, I immediately thought he was behaving suss when I saw him walking up behind you both haha. ❤❤👍👍
24:05 In fact it‘s lamb spine 😂 we call it lamb scorpion because the spine looks like a scorpion🦂
非常好视频，使我感动❤
When was the video taken? Definitely not in July as the upload date. July in Shanghai is like in oven.
6:01 "She's looking very concerned." You have a translator with you. Why did you not just *ask her* as opposed to making assumptions? She *_might_* be concerned but maybe for reasons that you are unaware of that might surprise you. This *_before_* stating anything on camera. Edit: I see at 9:10 from her own words that she could care less. A better question to ask would have been: "Exactly what do they 'renovate'? The wires? The materials, the structure? Roof? Windows? Walls? Foundation? Solar? These would be very insightful.
上海老城区就这样拥挤，但是非常干净整洁。这个视频非常真实反应了老上海人住宅真实情况。只是这些普通的住房价格意外惊喜
25:20 neither of the two is shanghainess. Soy bean milk from Hong Kong. That bloody sugar water in orange color is a very northern thing.
It looks like you stepped into the inner-city slums, which are called 棚户区. Those rundown houses are very cramped, and most units don't have a bathroom or kitchen. Typically, 3-4 people live in a 300 square foot space. the irony is that there are always some upscale apartments next to those neighborhoods, which cost millions of dollars.
这些旧房子一旦出售，价格高达10万人民币每平方米。上海的房子非常贵。
Not sure if you read the history about Shanghai before you trip? Shang is called Paris in the east at the turn of the century.
In Shanghai, these older buildings generally lack independent kitchen and bathroom spaces. Typically, 3 to 4 families share one kitchen, creating significant fire hazards. Very few people in this old city area have independent bathrooms, and the vast majority of residents need to deposit their feces in containers at home and transport them to designated locations outside to dispose of them. If you are lucky enough that your house was included in the government's old city renovation plan, the government will buy your house at a price higher than the usual market rate (commonly known as demolition compensation). The government's prerequisite for successfully demolishing the old city area is to obtain the consent of the residents in two consecutive votes. In the first vote, more than 90% of the residents need to approve the government's demolition plan for it to pass. In the second vote, 85% of the residents must agree to the government's compensation plan (i.e., be satisfied with the amount of compensation) for it to pass. Only after both votes pass can the demolition be officially initiated. The compensation plan for each renovation site is publicly available and can be checked online. On average, each household can receive compensation of 4 to 5 million RMB (equivalent to 550,000 to 690,000 USD), with the amount depending on the size of your house. Residents can choose to accept the government's proposal to purchase houses specifically designated for demolition households in the suburbs of Shanghai (at a lower price than the market rate), or they can choose to purchase commercial housing themselves.
However, whether such a situation can happen where you live entirely depends on urban planning and local government finances. In other words, if you're "unlucky," you might not be able to benefit from such policies for many years. Just like the elderly woman in the video who has lived there her whole life, their housing conditions might be better than the ones mentioned earlier, but not by much. Fortunately, if your place doesn't get to enjoy the aforementioned policies, the city government will still regularly allocate funds to repair public parts of your house, including corridors, exterior walls, and surrounding infrastructure, just like what's happening in the video.
Now, this is my personal opinion. As a tourist, it is natural to want to see some of the city's history preserved, but only the original residents can truly understand the inconvenience of living in these old buildings. For the original residents, if your home undergoes a significant renovation project, it means you've missed out on a government-led demolition project (typically, when they want to improve their living conditions by selling their houses to buy others, they can only sell for 2-3 million RMB. This price is far lower than the compensation offered by the government). In other words, it means they won't receive a generous demolition compensation agreement for at least several years. This is why the elderly woman in the video doesn't seem particularly happy. For someone her age, she might not to see the next large-scale old city renovation project.
您表达能力真好，我婆婆的旧小区就是这样，她那栋刚好有拆迁补偿，后来国家政策变了，后面的几栋就变成了升级改造，前面已补偿的也不可能拆了，同时也一起得到了升级改造，但我婆婆还住在那，只是要交房租，房子不属于我婆婆的了，不过房租好便宜。改造后有了统一停车场和运动场所，我婆婆可高兴了🎉
@@梓陈-d4v 哈哈，主要还是chatgpt翻译的好~ 租赁房真的很划算我家以前一个月只需要8块3毛一个月就能住在市中心了。不过现在动迁掉了~
Like your videos, I can see that you really want to understand the city and try to look at things objectively.
Now that you are in Shanghai, I highly recommend you to see Chinese musicals and dance dramas! It can be said that Shanghai has gathered many outstanding actors in the country, and has the most novel theater operation mode! To some extent, it represents cultural trends. The Huangpu district (which is very close to the Bund) has a number of very popular theaters. If you're interested, I can recommend you a few shows
The cute bird is so funnnnnnny😂😂😂😂😂
I like you always try to speak local dialect. Even only few words will make you closer to the locals. Can‘t wait to see you in Guangdong and hear you speak Cantonese.
嗦嗨
@@马化腾-h6o you？
南京西路这里说是老城区，更多的是历史保护建筑，所以这里的房子再怎么破都不会拆除造新的房子。上海最贵的私家住宅不是黄浦江边上新造的高楼大厦，而是隐藏在这种“老城区”里有一百年历史的独栋洋房别墅。
Hey Jack, when you see people saying you have bad intention, remember there are two types:
1: Some real Chinese mainland people do get very sensitive about these contents these days. We Chinese also know how some of the bad medias depicting us, and we have seen some of the foreigners intentionally filming and exaggerating some facts, this is why we got so sensitive sometimes. This is not a very big problem for you, I believe you two are good and kind people, your actions and time will comfort their sensitivity.
2: It can be seen that some bad guys pretending they are Chinese but making some really extreme comments, they want others to think some Chinese are "extreme", I think you should be extra careful about some strange comments that seems very extreme, they are not from the brain of any normal people, don't mind them.
This is a really bad era for Internet, people just likes to fight with each other online, and there are too many groups of people having their own intentions, they don't mind to make the whole situation more chaotic, it do need bravery to make such videos. Hope every goes well with your whole journey!
Hi Jack, are you in Shanghai now? and do you want to experience the historical local culture?
Come to northern China someday, there are the most welcoming people and countless delicious food. Maybe come to my city Changchun, I will treat you
Love to all Humans!!! ❤
welcome to SH❤
Big love!
Don't underestimate these old houses that look shabby. One set costs more than 10 million yuan, and some old houses are worth hundreds of millions of yuan. It's amazing, isn't it? If these houses were not valuable, the locals who drive Porsche Maybach would not live here.
非常有趣，去当地了解真实的生活情况，是去旅游景区体验不到的感受
That drawing😂.
Good video, the true life.
Every time Jack says where he is, take a shot.
The old house in Longtang is real Shanghai/China, the fancy modern new highrise apartment complex is also real Shanghai/China. If you meant "normal" by "real" then in fact the normal Chinese people majority are living in hundreds of Chinese cities with good infrastructure and in those modern apartment with a good living standards. It's most of the old who still stay in Longtang because they have spent their whole time there, they may own a modern apartment somewhere else, their children may live in one of these apartment, but it doesn't mean that they are the majority people with a normal living condition. You do see more old than young in Hutong and Longtang, right? However, China is huge, there are always huge population in different level. But we can see the change over the decades. In the past more people lived in Longtang or in rural area but now more people live in modern cities. This is the change brought by fast economy development, support from government, and hardwork of Chinese people, and this is the real life of China.
Auntie said that the project will be completed in 4 months.
great job, talk to the chinese people, brings you best understanding of China.
Haha, actually the staff in the resteraunt are not Shanghai local. They are probably from the north as you can tell from their accent. So when Jack tried to speak Shanghainese to them, their reactions were all like: ?
In addition, the "traditional Shanghainese" drinks are not Shanghai original, either. The soybean milk (Vitasoyis) a Hongkong brand, and the "fanta"(Dayao) is an inner mongolia brand which is very popular in the northeast provinces.
Welcome to the city , people , food come from everywhere and that is what really city it is! If you like to see ‘ real local’ you have to go back your village, where everyone born and dead in same place !
@@hahahahahahahahahahahahaha64 Agree. Shanghai is an international metropolis where you can find people, cuisines, and cultures from all over the world. However, when we talk about Shanghai local cuisine, "Benbangcai" and "Xiaolongbao"are definitely considered to be characteristic of Shanghai. In the video, Jack and the guide asked the staff lady if the drink was very Shanghainese, and I believe he intended to know if it was a traditional local beverage of Shanghai. The lady however answered these two type of drink are very popular in Shanghai. So I don't think Jack has got the correct information about the drinks.
This is the real ShangHai,thanks for the video!
1:44 very likely those were built by the french too from 100 years ago.
edit: just look at those cars parked in that area. I have yet to see a toyota or honda :DDD And each piece of those back alley spot is worth at least a couple million when the eventual rebuild happens.
edit again: 11:43 was that real???!
Amazing isn't it, the location alone is worth $1 Million haha
It was so funny to hear you speak Shanghainese :-). It's always fun to talk with Shanghainese aunties and uncles if one can speak the local language well.
Let me tell you the truth about "Have you eaten yet". At least in Beijing, since the beginning of the last century, people's standard of living was not high, and eating was the biggest thing, people would meet and greet each other and ask each other "Have you eaten yet", and if the other person looked embarrassed and did not answer positively, it meant that the other person had a hard time lately, and the person who was having a hard time would be entertained, and the person who greeted him would help the other person, such as sending some grain. If the person does not answer positively, it means that he or she has been living in a difficult situation. Of course, the situation of not being able to afford to eat did not exist several decades ago, but such a way of greeting has been retained. This kind of greeting behavior is regarded as the greatest goodwill. People who really care about you will care whether you have enough to eat or not, and if you are starving, then they will help you with some food to solve the problem of eating, or even help you fundamentally, such as helping you to find a better job, or other problems. You can think of the question "Have you eaten?" You can think of this question as "How have you been?" Of course, "Have you eaten?" is a much kinder and more tactful way of asking "How have you been?"
Lol this is absolutely wrong. "This kind of greeting behavior is regarded as the greatest goodwill. " It'll be only considered as a weird move if a foreigner greets a local stranger with "Have you eaten". AND " "Have you eaten?" is a much kinder and more tactful way of asking "How have you been?"" this is wrong too, 最近怎么样(how have you been?) can't be replaced by 吃了吗（have you eaten）, this just doesn't make sense
@@ok3renutube 你是南方孩子吧
@@wushantao 我北方人，在北方20年，美国1年，澳洲3年，现在上海10年。如果你在北方，你日常会跟陌生人问“你吃了吗”？你见过哪个国内拍游记的跟陌生人问你吃了吗？上海人之间也很少问这个。我很高兴看到更多外国人来国内玩，也是在帮助博主更好的跟国人交流。
@@ok3renutube 好吧，我老了，现在的孩子都不讲老礼儿了，我过时了
你知道jack只是努力想拉进与当地人的距离，他也知道你是欢迎他的，这就够了，说什么重要吗？不重要！语言只是个工具，目的达到了，怎么讲讲什么，不要吹毛求疵！
If you want to explore what ordinary, common life looks like in China I would definitely recommend visiting Changsha and Chengdu which are famous for a lively ordinary life. But maybe you need to get used to eating spicy things first
Love to see you again up norwich ❤❤❤❤