Battling Rust on a 1961 Chevy Impala - MuscleCar S3, E12
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 3 มิ.ย. 2020
- The '61 Impala gets new rear seat pans, with some modifications, Brent patches the quarter panels while Rick fixes rust on the fenders and gets started on the bodywork. The '69 Firebird return from the sandblaster, revealing some serious problems. In Flashback, take a ride in the Mustang known as "King of the Road", a '68 Shelby Cobra KR500.
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PARTS USED IN THIS EPISODE:
Air-Ride Technologies: Front Strong Arm system with Shockwave tubular upper and lower control arms, lower crosshafts, bushings, ball joints, Shockwave airbags, and all necessary fasteners and bracketry, rear Strong Arm system with tubular upper arm, lower control arms, adjustable panhard bar, Airsprings, shocks and all necessary fasteners and bracketry.
Auto Body Color & Supply Co.: Weldthru II coating, brushable seam sealer.
Sherman and Associates, Inc.: Rear quarter panel lower rear sections.
Strip Masters of Nashville: Blasting of Firebird body shell.
YearOne: RH floor brace, LH and RH full floor pan, RH trunk floor, LH floor brace, RH floor brace, trunk floor center section, RH floor box brace, LH floor box brace, RH outer trunk extension floor panel, LH and RH toe board, shift tunnel plate seal, shift tunnel plate, trunk floor brace, fuel tank brace, upper rear seat floor brace, upper trunk floor, upper trunk floor brace, LH outer trunk floor extension panel, RH under seat floor brace, LH under seat floor brace, LH under seat pan, RH under-seat bracket - ยานยนต์และพาหนะ
"No short cut on perfection." Hahaha. As you use a da to finish mud and weld panels over rusty inner structure. You guys are hilarious.
Wow. Just like most restoration shops. If the customer can't see the rust.....It isn't there. lol
Awesome patch work guys! Love to see the rebirth of the old rusty cars being done by passionate pros
All that work on that 61 impala and it's not even a bubble top 😂
Lets not forget this is a tv show from 2008 lol
Old convertables have the worst rust under the window frame chrome. I restored my friends 1967 Firebird, FirebirdCentral had the upper cowl and upper dash panels but the I had to make the entire lower window trough and repairs in the upper body itself. They also had the floors, seat risers, both quarters, door skins, outer wheelhouses, tail pan. Rockerpanel and lower fender rust was typical. Rebuilt a Ram Air III and matching Turbo 400, pipes, brakes, suspension, steering followed by three months of block sanded high build primer. Gun Metal two stage urethane, color sand and polish ..I'm retired so I did 4-6 hrs/day and the project took me and entire year ..but it was perfect with is new 400 Hood and tach and ram air kit. I made so nice pocket cash but after all that work, ..I wish it was mine. LOL
Great work love your videos and keep safe out there and keep the videos coming
Let's go burn a store
Damn, you use half the can of mud on that fender? lol
Yes...but then removed 90% of it. Kinda how that works. Fill and remove to flush. If it's too much it was because you left huge gaps in the metal or you have bulges in the paint.
And all that rust you sealed inside of the powder coating... wow...
Good episode guys. Really hit home. Two of my bucket list cars were featured and I got a buddy who wants to sell me his dad’s 67 firebird vert project that looked very similar to yours. It’s been sitting in a garage for 20yrs at least but his dad hacked it up pretty bad before he gave up. I’m retired and half done an 03 marauder restomod so I have most of the tools and some experience but the fact you guys passed up on your firebird has me worried. I just keep thinking it’s a 67 firebird convertible and it’s got to be saved.
it is simple for you none Body guys T-tops or Convertibles or even roadsters = RUST BIG TIME as in Man hours it is not a factor of your own time and Cost IF it is your passion and your project/baby I throw in over 600+ hours into a 68 mustang ( when I used to live in the US ) and I yes I would do it again But when you take on too many projects like this Show has its easy to get carried away and before you know it its over.. but.. Stick with it Good show Love what you guys do at Powernation ..
Sweet one wheel peel!
Get a plastic hawk for mixing bondo, cardboard will allow hardner to escape your mixing ratios.
I know this episode is like 12 years old but they're really just going to ignore the fact that they sealed in that rust on the inside? Did they think we wouldn't notice?
I love Powernation! How about some European or Japanese or even Russian iron? People would pay top dollar for different resto-mods.
I wanna see them do some 90s jdm
Anyone know a good shop in California that will do a good job of blasting and powder coating?
Sweet cobra!
How or what do you do to treat the braces behind the panels?
What do you do to the back side of your patch panels to protect against rust.
Obviously at times you cant get primer to those areas. So over time it will rot out again.
That mustang is running a little rich!
I looked at that black smoke too.Somebody ought to check the air filters or tune the carbs on that one 😁
The KR only had 2 headlights. The inboard lamps were Lucas Square 8 driving lights. Getting hard to find.
For the Firebird, just get a brand new Dynacorn body, and start from there!
$ Sentimental value $
I'm pretty sure that wasn't available when this episode was made back in 2006.
That there Firebird is one of them specially modified factory tubs with the "Metal Delete" high perfomance option, less weight, flow-through air cooling, and built-in inspection holes that also act as deer whistles when at highway speed.
Unfortunately, not very rare for GM cars built in that decade.
Gravelly voiced announcer makes everything really macho man. I guess it makes you forget this half-breed Impala/Biscayne rusty mess.
You guys need Fitzy’s Fabrication for that Firebird.
THESE ARE OLD EPISODES!!! EARLY 00’s OLD!!!
Good bro
You guys need to do a 1965 Chevy Impala and paint it red
Nah, midnight blue would be preferred.
What’s the word on the history of the rear flat top visor I thought that was a belair thing ! My first car was a desert sand color “61 belair” ? 2 taillights ! Anybody know where there is “61” near mn.project car ?
good series.someones buys the 61, know whats in the build.never know whats under that nice paint @ used classiccar lot buyer beware.To bad bout the 69 firebird convertible, very rare cars ,so many convertibles are so far rusted out from sitting in a field for 30 yrs"if you want to save a car put it indoors"saw 68 camero near the beach salt air ate it up to far gone to save , your 61 or 69 firebird looks cheery
It's funny that the only thing that hasn't changed in 50 years is mixing the bondo on a cut up piece of cardboard. :)
don't use regular bondo over weld patches even a pinhole will let moisture through and make it pop... use high resin filler like bondo glass, kitty hair especially on thicker applications. it will reduce call backs and last longer.. remember filler is talc with resin .. lightweight filler has less resin so whenever you can use a higher resin filler.. takes longer to kick but its worth the wait
Bondo and paint make a bodyman what he ain't.
Sometimes I'd trade all 30 years of auto mechanical knowledge for autobody skills...🤔😪
Shelby KR is nice
What happened to project [Altered Ego]?
What not but wield the rust repairs instead of having overlapped joints on the inside?
You never use a orbital sander on bondo . block sanding - 40 grit down to 80 then lighter grit till you get it smooth and never put bondo over a painted or painted area that has been sanded . it's not a good foundation for bondo . 24 to ruff up the metal surface for bondo to stick to. Your also suppost to get all rust off of the metal surfaces and spray weld through primer with zink between the sandwiched panels
What about all that rust INSIDE the rockers that you sealed in with your patches? Is there no way to fix that? Seems like it'll just come bubbling through and make holes, eventually.
There are places that you can have your car dunked in chemicals that will convert the rust. Then you can use these little hoses that attach to paint guns/cans to coat the inside of cavities you don't have access too like rockers or pillars.
isn't the rust the reason you call it red sled? lol 😆 😆 😆
7:28 So what about the rust in the insides?
shhhh we don't talk about that
That spot need sandblasting primer and paint to protect it. I am 15 and know more. Hahaha
I believe all metal panels should drop in like a puzzle piece. All the potential stress in bent sheet metal will show up as issues in finished paint job and quality of work.
Wrong.
69 fire bin ird quarter come with doors jams
Yep ..Classic Car Industries..
and they have the interior quarter panel braces.
I think year one did the best battle again firebirds rust. They replaced all the sheet metal
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idles at 100mph like its just rolling around the block in town. needs a mechanical fan because driving around town an electric fan will drain the battery.
I never get why people overlap panels then weld em back together, your just asking for rust to come back.
You should look up old factory videos, they survived 50 plus years being used as daily drivers with almost every panel overlapped ... These cars will never see a rainy day and spend most of their time in a temp controlled environment, overlap welds aren't going to hurt a thing.
@@brysontrotman5865 A factory style seam....and a poor restoration at 2 different things. One is engineered to last, Seam sealer, rust prevention coating and drains to help get water from between the panels....another is just a lazy repair.
Proffesional butchers yeaaa its gonna be sold any ways.
Word to the wise never half ass a car rebuild project.
Hahahahaha
My mantra is half ass it 🙋 FTW
Thanks for that great advice. I'm sure all the half-assing will stop immediately now.
Mud and paint makes it what it aint
@John Ulicky, Yep, #FACTSMATTER!! 😁
I'm not sure what they are smoking but with that level of rust you'll have a catastrophic failure not to far down the road
PN can talk about cutting out rust sections & replacing w/ patches or filler patches all day. BIG DEAL! Once that rust section is ground down or cleaned out or replaced, what are some of the options to protect that bare metal? I've found that NAPA Paint offers a Zinc-based rattle can corrosion-resistant paint(NOT corrosion-proof) that will stand up to the arc heat & acts like a weld flux. So when everything is done, that section will last longer then just letting condensation make more rust. This is what I've been told by the NAPA rep. I'm sure there are other methods but it all comes down to protecting welded blind sections. Any protection is going to get burnt off from welding. Does PN have any suggestions for this dilemma?
Is that Impala worth the wrk being put in to it !!!! I mean if you had to pay to have it done ???
probably not, but its good video, and great that they saved it from the crusher
Gents after putting in all that hard work, can the car be dipped in something to prevent future rust? Or this is a every 50 year restoration project.
rustproof it and avoid salt ...then it will last 100 years
There are a few things you can do. You can sand blast it then dunk it in basically a ultra sonic cleaner to get all the rust in the cavities you can't reach. Once all of that is done, they make little hoses that attach to paint guns/cans that you can use to spray inside stuff you don't have access to like rocker panels or pillars. Once you paint the car, you can bed line the under side and that should stop rust from below.
But like dude above me said, don't drive on salty roads. Ever.
too bad there was no chemical acid dip company near by
no safety glasses wat so ever. thats a osha no no.
Especially while using a chisel. You guys should be setting good-practice examples
This!
"tribute" trans am? oh, you mean Phony trans am.
What happened I thought you guys were up for a challenge the car doesn't look that bad you guys have to skills the money to do it !!
JUNK THE FIREBIRD *
everything is easy when you get free shit to fix these cars.
Yeah, right. 🤨🤨🤨🤨🤨🤨 And I suppose that all that "fee shit" just automatically installs itself, no skills needed? Easy peesy?
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What a one wheel peal hot rod all show no go lol 😂
You should never mix body filler on cardboard. The filler pulls the wax out of the cardboard and mixes it in with the filler. You should use metal, glass or plastic.
duuuuude let us focus on one car
Mustang king of the road more like king of the junkyard
The origanail Shelbys are better than the new stuff that they claim to be Shelbys. You go back in time and get a real Shelby and you will not find a ford sticker any place on that car. Yea he got the cars from Ford but he removed all the ford stamping and anything that showed ford.
By the late 60s, Ford was building Shelby Mustangs in house with shelby’s approval. Shelby was too busy with the GT40 and other big projects. Shelby mustangs from about 67 forward are just licensed from Shelby. They still had to meet his approval. In many cases, Shelby’s team made the prototypes using Ford performance parts and a few custom touches and ford made the production ones.
Buy more ear rings
As a 69 bird owner. I think is a shame and sacrilegious to put a Chevy engine on a Pontiac....there are lots of powerful Pontiac engines available
They've been using Chevy engines in Pontiacs for 40 years. Plus, the all-aluminum LS7 is so much lighter and more powerful than most of that old iron. It's all GM; it's not like they're putting in a Ford or Dodge engine.
They are. Those werte never exclusively Chevrolet engines, the were used in all divisions since introduction and are GM LS engines, not Chevy LS engines. And if you want modern power, smoothness, and efficiency, an old big block anything is the wrong place to look.
I see that you are not a Pontiac person...you are entitled to your opinion. So are I....a 350 chevy...is Not the same as a 350 pontiac...difference in size ...and other major differences....I know pontiac was part of GM....but different branch. You had Buick chevy oldsmobile and many others...all Gm. But they all had their differences....you know what they say about opinions...we all have one....you know the rest...
ls1 and 2/3's where a Pontiac motor......
they came in the g8's...more commonly known as a holden commodore
LS engines come in modern pontiacs. There is nothing wrong with doing a resto-mod
Wow..! What a Half ass hack job on this car LOL ..!
Lets cut all this rust out of the bottom of this fender then fill it with a quart of filler. Don't ever block sand the way he is doing right after the 10 min mark.
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Welding “SON” ! Goonzsquad
Who's the wench riding shotgun in the `68 Shelby Cobra?
I thought that you were supposed to spray primer sealer( epoxy primer) onto the bare metal before putting the body filler.😳
Yes
Dont do anything these hacks do only watch this for shits and giggles and to point out everthing they do wrong
No man...80 grit then plaster it on them prime the filler will seal it
Who finances these repairs?
Is it a wealthy customer? Or a the business model that provides funding?
Just wondered how that plays out.
I believe sponsors do.
Lincoln welder... Edelbrock...GM Performance Parts...Matco Tools...Holley...and on and on
Some are customer cars, some are host cars, a lot of it is sponsored parts.
Why did they go to all this trouble just to weld it back up with rust and sand inside? And that's *after* it was sent to be blasted? It all has to be pulled apart to start, resurfaced, primed... or else tear it apart again in a few years which nobody's gonna want to do, which means a death sentence for the car. At least blow it out good and fog what you can't get to with converter. Also the guy's supposed to be priming something (be busy for the shot) at 3:23 then lays the pan on it. Stop worrying about setting up shots and being cool, let the camera guy do their thing, and focus on the job. :)
I have never had the money to do what I want to my chevelle sold it to a friend who held it for 16 years 2 divorces child support 5 boys my kids are raised I got money 💰 out my ass no crazy chick 🐣 I’m gonna go ham on my chevelle my exs can suck it I’m out
or, you could get a southern car and avoid most rust
whats so great about ls original is better
And the sound of a healthy 400 compared to an LS... no competition!
Trans am with an LS? 👎
1st
O cara fez uma solda sem retirar a oxidação de dentro. Serviço porco....
English please!
@@johna.4334 The guy soldered without removing rust from the inside ... Pork service
2nd lol
naaaaa man, these guys welds look like dog shit, i swear thats hideous, i feel bad for the guys that buy these cars after they are done, wtf.
Your videos are confusing please make it clean
That metal work on the Impala was awful. Can't believe you put that on video. Go to the guys of Monkey Garage to learn excellent metal work.
Yeah no. I've seen quite a bit of hacks from the gas monkey garbage guys. Watch the show and see.
Stopped watching because of commercials. What a joke.
wow, you never heard of a ad blocker? Now that's a joke