The $700 LEGO Technic monster - 42146 Liebherr LR 13000 detailed building review part 1
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 12 พ.ค. 2024
- After the long weeks of waiting, my first video about the LEGO Technic 42146 Liebherr LR 13000 is finally here! You can see all the new parts, the interesting details of the building process, the final result, all the features of the app and much more!
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hi
700 I gotta pay 1050 😢
@@alexwarren5447depends on which country currency he uses
This set feels like one of the few times where the 18+ age rating is truly justified.
Yes.
The 18+ rating means minimum age to afford it 😂
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@@1403gavinwas about to comment this lol
very true. most of the cars in the lineup (those and trains are the only things i’m interested in from TLG nowadays) that are 18+ i would have loved when i was 12-14. i think this one almost takes some appreciation of modern engineering to fully enjoy the build.
Each crane has a lifting diagram (in the cabin also). If you check a real one, that might have incredible low lifting weight capacity in flat angles. If you make a linear calculation: 1) 1 dimension ratio to the weight; 2) rational weight difference (because it is made of plastic). Then you can get how much the lego version should lift in what angle
I am a crane driver and enthousiast myself. And I know a view things of the real crane. I know that it can lift 660 (metric)tons at a distance of 100 metres.
So the real crane is quite a beast!
@@musictolive4 can you search the lifting diagram of the crane config in question? I'm lazy.
Liebherr has the load charts in pdf for free on their site.
The more I look into this set, it looks like what really happened is that Lego ran into some real engineering problems and materials limitations while designing this set. It's novel and impressive looking, but I can't help but wonder if the noticeable changes from the real thing are simply because they couldn't find a half-decent way to build this set and still have it be more or less "functional". They probably could have resolved the issue with more new parts... but that would turn this set into a sunk-cost monstrosity (for Lego).
To point out an easy difference, the lack of counterweights on the back of crane's main body. I think this would have resulted in the body not balancing well on the central ring. It could have also become too heavy to turn around. Similarly, the tracks dancing around with the top spins means that the tracks are simply too light. Which means bigger tracks (perhaps even a double-track system)... and stronger/more motors to turn everything. Issues like these keep cropping up, and before long you find out the biggest limiting factor is that you're working with plastic and not steel.
And I wouldn't be surprised if the crane model mentioned was the original intent for this set... and simply didn't work, resulting in a scaled back but still very functional version of a crawler crane.
And for anyone who has been around cranes... seeing the tracks lift off the ground *AT ALL* is a terrifying sight.
The guys running the excavators might have fun doing that, but you never see that with the cranes. Luckily, this is just Lego.
To comment on the price? It's definitely too much, and I think the price is intentionally inflated to cover the bigger than anticipated design costs along and to offset the expected lower sales. While the price appears to be the biggest complaint, the other issues with the set would have inevitably come to light. I think Lego is expecting only the most dedicated and die-hard fans to get this one, and are bumping the price in an attempt to off-set the already incurred costs during the design phase. I think this is definitely not a "price per piece" issue so much as it ended up being a much bigger design cost.
On the bright side, it's very likely that Lego learned quite a few lessons from designing this set, which will go to helping design future sets.
Would of been better off making the lr1600
Dont the counterweights extend out? Like the real thing when you add more load or extend the beam out farther?
Would have been nice to see it they used metal wrapped in plastic counterweights instead, would have added more lifting capacity. Also could account for the much higher price as the counterweights won't get much use in other sets.
I very much agree in your assessment 👍🏻🇩🇰
I think their legal department put their foot down. Cranes are very tricky and need very skilled operators assisted by loads of sensors not to tip over. I once built a big Lego crane with regular Lego Technic parts and started fooling around with ever heavier weights and counterweights. All fine and dandy right up to the point the load let go and my crane turned into a trebuchet. The hook came nowhere near my face but with less luck could have taken out an eye. Not something you want to sell nowadays.
It would be ok for 300Euros, but the price is insane, and model doesn't really represent the Liebherr LR 13000. Great review, as always!
It has two hubs and some 3-4 motors. Also bigger stronger pieces, which I think may justify a slightly higher price, maybe 450 ish, there's the Liebherr name used, so that easily adds more value.
Actually if you look into it a bit, this configuration is actually used irl, it’s just rare
@@mathieuedde1465not the configuration but the superstructure, tracks and ballast are badly reproduced. The R9800 was very close to reality, it’s sad they didn’t manage to do as good.
@@romix8340 im no expert when it comes to the level of replications, but i'll take your word
@@nivethofficial well people thought cat was expensive but now it looks like a better deal....
definitely impressive to see.
i'd like to see a "death match" against this and the Liebherr excavator and the rough terrain crane. would be one for the ages.
This is an insanely good review. I've gotten so burnt out from the typical LEGO review style after over a decade of watching them on TH-cam, but your attention to detail and vast knowledge about what you're talking about is fantastic. Just subscribed, can't wait for future content
Thanks a lot for unraveling this mysterious technic set. Finally it is here and can’t wait for the next episode.
The high resistance of the motor at 2:55 is actually a really good idea-in the bucket wheel excavator, the motors needed fresh batteries to have enough torque to even drive the whole system.
I saw this set today my LEGO shop in the mall. Its a great looking set. Technic is Amazing
Great review as always! I wonder how it would fare with heavier counterweights. I know lego has to include them for the sake of it, but I can't help but feel like it would have been significantly cheaper and more effective if it was just left to the buyer. You'll probably touch on this in part 2!
This set gives me the same feeling I had when I saw my friend showed me his Lego city crane years ago. I thought it was huge and cool. This is crazier.
Life is too short for safety limits :D
Thanks for the review. Without talking about the price, it's a very cool set.
I wonder how low the hook can go, so you can lift up things from lower than the crane is placed.
Yet it's much shorter without them.
@@EviGL beat me to it! :D
@@EviGLwe’re here for a good time not for a long time
"Life is too short for safety limits."
You sound like Stockton Rush. 😀 😛
Would be interesting to see someone increase the counterweight and the top boom length. Would make it look much more like the real crane. I wonder how well it would hold up?
as seen so far: had way more building and "playing" fun with the 42082 for about a quarter of the price - but wouldn't be the first time your final review would change my mind 🤠
This crane is at my work right now. Like the real one 😂 it's mind boggling how massive it truly is irl. I'm 6'1. The top of my head is not even as tall as to the top of the front wheel. It's truly an amazing machine. The ballast weights are ridiculously huge.
I was expecting the counterweights to swing out when a heavier load is lifted, maintaining balance.
I wonder how long it will be until a video is posted where someone makes the booms longer.
I plan on buying this set.
Great way to start my morning here in America. Been waiting for this vid all week! Fantastic review and def a set I look forward to saving up for :)
The Liebherr have many configuration and the set represent one.
Also the counterweight is not heavy enough, I'm curious how it would perform with a custom one.
I don't know much about crane, but I was expecting the counterweights to be moved further back in order to compensate for heavy loads. At first, I thought that would be linked to the overload detector (either by a motor, or just geometry with a shaft pulling/pushing them away from the center of gravity.
That could be a customisation theme for a MOC based on this model.
I was thinking the exact same thing!
we're getting ever so closer to the inevitable $1k set :D
Brilliant review Balazs! 🥳
Yes, the first thing that came to mind when seeing the set was that the counterweight would not be enough. I would imagine if there was another counterweight far back on the ground (akin to the 'real' LR13000) then the lifting capacity would be improved. (Although structural stress and bending will have to be factored in.) 🤔
yeah, it needs a derrick ballast, without it it looks like a lr1500 or something.
Thank you, as usually - amazing job!
Wow! What a big monster you have there!! 😀😀
Am glad that they at least numbered their bags, unlike some other technic sets
Lol, the beginning of your video was funny with the crane tipping over and the old guy tipping over. Awesome start, just that alone would get people to start watching. Love your videos and I'm looking forward to building this set, I pre-ordered when it was up for Pre-order on the USA Lego website. As you said, it does turn a little too fast, the Rough Terrain Crane was better about turning at a slower realistic speed.
Great Review, have been waiting for this video for ages now! Would be really nice to see how it looks in other configurations, maybe one long main boom?
Very helpful review!
I would like to see you attach a weight to the end and then spin the crane around 360° like it's swinging a wrecking ball
It's finally here! Let's goooo
I have just assembled these models and I think that I should release a kit for sale to improve the length of the two feathers, increase the counterweights and improve the strength of the motors. lego would have to add for that price some accessory like a container or something similar to be able to use it with the crane.
As a crane operator omin real life i HAVE to get this set as it fills me with joy😍
I wasn't even considering this before, but I suddenly want it now!
NICE! thanks for the cool video
It's a beautiful looking piece.
Love it!
Awesome set ❤
Great review as always
if i could recomend a custom build lego set it would be the 11200 leibherr ltm crane by jeroen ottens design. it costed me $400 for all the parts and the instructions, took me around 3 months to build, and it could reach up to 6 ft into the air! it is an incredible crane and i would love to see you build it!
I enjoy the box being that shape. It's tall. Which is the main feature of the model too. Yea it's a dang nice model of a real workhorse. But dang it's tall.
This set is Awesome !!! Now can you take this set to the next level? Please max out the boom length and the counterweights to see how massive this set can be. 😲😎
Boom parts are not available yet separately. Counterweight increase is in the next video, stay tuned ;)
AMAZING
Nice Review, just want to ask if it's possible to add more Truss to increase the height like 42042, i hope you will try that next time, tnx
Thank you!!!!!
So impressive and nice!
Thanks for the partial review.
- I would love to see more info about the new parts such as the new spools.
- What's the maximum load you can lift when the arm is positioned as horizontal as possible.
- Does the type (especially weight) of batteries used in the top battery box affect the crane's's ability to measure load.
This is the building review, I bet he’ll do a very thorough walk through on the functional perspective.
Very nice, thank you for this video 🙂
Oh wow, they have the core parts of Technic and include the Lego Spike parts
Finally!! ❤
Beautiful lego set!
It's functioning just like an actual crane would behave. Of course you can't pick out of chart at that radius.
Also, the button that let's you override the safety features is also present in real cranes, "turning the keys."
With how much of a challenge it must have been to get this set to even lift this much, I can't help but think it might have been a good idea to drop most/all of the functionality. The lack of all the counterweights and motors would likely drop the price by a few hundred dollars as well.
woah what a behemoth. I think I would have to leave my room and live somewhere else to accomodate that beast xD
I NEED THIS!!!
Price is simply outrageous. Lego is definitely charging way too much for this. Thanks for the review.
I find it crazy… the price is a problem but the set itself is aswell… I guess at some price I would overlook everything and buy it but that wouldn’t change the fact that the set itself is absolutely trash.
Thats not a review, it's an ad. Quite pointless, they pay him cheap money and he makes a whole ad for them in reward
True! Which is why Lego has become the largest toy company in the world surpassing Hasbro, Mattel, & Bandai ..... and profits.
@NiklasOjas I like this set, but I feel like a $500 price is warranted. $700 is insane, I'd rather buy the other leibherr excavator for $800 (the retired one) . And even then, I'm paying the retired price, but it's at least somewhat justified vs. this abomination.
It's a crazy insane price, but I still want it lol!!
Hi, do you have instructions or a set of bricks for the container you used as weights? Thanks a lot.
It is from the Technic Mack truck set
What set is that "container" from. I'd love to get the parts and have it part of my display with this!! Early on in the build now.
@jasonm9336 The Lego Technic Mack Anthem 42078
Amazing!
I'm waiting for mine which i've preordered and will definitely try to make some extension upgrade to make it look more like a real one :D
Re the rotation speed of the superstructure. The speed varies depending on how far left and right you slide the "lever" from the centre point. If you want it to move more slowly, just dont slide the lever as far.
Incredibly cool this set!!!😊
I LOVE IT..I WANT ONE. OMG
Szia!
Szuper videó lett, és köszi szépen a magyar feliratot!
Amaizing
Will I buy this? No. Did I watch the entire video? Yes.
Would be fun to build from my existing collection, there are a bunch of bricks I don't have, like the motors, the boom bricks and the weight bricks, but I think it won't be too difficult to make some small changes to make it work anyway
Hi Balazs,
Thank you for another excellent review 👌🏻
If possible, can you show in the next episode if it is possible to lay the boom fully flat
As would be 'necessary' in real life when building/erecting the crane.
As I understand from your review, per the instructions the crane is built in an upright position
You mean when it is fully assembled? During building at some point it lays flat, you can see it at 6:34. When it is fully assembled the outmost positing is what you see at 10:36
I wonder if that counterweight is calculated to be close to the maximum without stressing apart, or if it's possible to replace with more weight
FINALLY
I would use one plastic counterweight to make a mould and pour them in zink or something. The heavier counterweights should increase lifting performance.
@mathiasw.8148 Only to a point, then the motors max out.
I want this so badly now after seeing it built
can you build a sky scrapper with it?
Hello! Nice review! Worth the wait! Can you do a load comparason with the big red ?
Yall commenting, “not the same crane” it is, the lr 13000 comes in diff varieties, lego just did a poor job of sourcing the correct imagine for the crane. And if you dont believe me, THIS EXACT MODEL is on the liebherr page for this conventional crane. Just search lr 13000 jib configuration
However the lack of hanging weights on the rear is not accurate and would completely fix the weight issue. In real life it has about triple the counter weights. Also the boom should be about 8 feet taller to match scaling😅
How hard is it really to control this mechanism
Plus lego should make a real technic forklift truck being the same scale as this lr model plus with motor and app
Thank you
For comparison, check out the Mould King Liebherr LR13000. It has all the right proportions and is actually affordable.
Really amazing work! Thank you for your efforts. How low can a load be lowered below grade (i.e. beneath the level of the table the tracks are sitting on)?
Will test it in the next video
Looking forward to part 2. Question: why all the different colors? Red, grey, should be yellow imho. What are your thoughts about this?
I want this set so bad but i have no where to display it. Even at work it my not fit on top of my desk and under the ceiling.......
I am curious to know more about the load measurement system
Add some counterweights even if it's not lego to see how well it operates. This is a really cool set.
Sooooo cool
Now they just need to make a LEGO version of this crane in the 250 meter tall configuration. That would make the model almost 5 meters tall.
If only we lived in a warehouse
I do wonder if it would look better with just a longer boom, without the jib. And of course, we are all waiting for someone to build the real-life configuration with the doubled-up boom, shown in the fotos in the instructions.
For some reason, it reminds me a lot of the Lego Technic Control Centre Set 8094
Will you check what happens if you put 1 kg of sugar or rise on each counterweight platform instead of those counterweights?
I hope Lego never gets rid of their plastic bags they're so useful
Nice Lego👏
I really wish I could have this set it is so cool
I still haven’t got a control plus set due to fear it will no longer work once the app will eventually be discontinued
Wonder why they went with a sand blue gear rack sleeve for the weight sensor mechanism. Yellow or DBG would’ve worked much better here. Maybe to clear the excess stock after that ninjago set a few years ago?
I think this set can be improved by adding a brick to the counterweight cradle
you incorrectly estimated the load capacity of the crane, you need to put the boom completely up and the goose, too, this will give you the opportunity to lift the load directly under you and show the maximum load capacity
I didn't estimate anything, I simply showed the amount of load and the position when the alert kicks in
So, if you wanna use the motors for something else is it actually possible or do they only work in this configuration?
I await part 2
Can you please increase the counterweights and see how much stress the motors can take???
you should have weight them all at the same time and just divide by count to get a better average weight
How does the load sensing work? Does the hub have a tilt/compas sensor built in and then it measures the angle it sits at to estimate the load?
Exactly, the hub has a tilt sensor
This video appeared 5 times on my home page so I decided to give it a view
Hi! I would know where you took this small gray container what was lifted. Could you tell me number please?
It is from the 42078 Mack set
@@RacingBrick Thanks a lot!