Seeing how stable the distance between your car chassis and road stays, I'm quite sure your car doesn't have super tight suspension - and I didn't see any body roll. So are you trying to prove that thing works, if you only drive very smooth and straight roads? Cool video, but doesn't really give enough information, if that really works so well.
I would have liked to see what the linkage would perform like over uneven, smooth but undulating, road surfaces. That would show what it would do in turns, also. Looks like a good, and clean, install, though.
The metallic sound is the traction bars engaging and disengaging. We built three of these and decided they were not cost effective. We ran one at the tail of the dragon and the truck couldnt be touched.
does a watts link really help all that much on a leaf sprung truck. i mean the leafs are supposed to already be doing that job if designed properly. maybe ford didn't make the leafs wide enough to stop the axle from wondering side to side.
build a custom lowered car and leave 1/2" on each side of the tire to the fenders, then hit the corners hard. yes-it moves. a lot with HEAVY leave springs.
Look at this watt’s linkage version: th-cam.com/video/dhX6NmkmVYo/w-d-xo.html Roll center height can easily be changed putting center propeller pivot up or down.
looks like the left tube is bent and flexing, I inverted mine, meaning my bell crank is mounted on the frame with the tubes perfectly running parallel at ride height. I built my bell crank frame so I could adjust it at the frame to match the roll center of the Mustang ll IFS. My tubes are about 14" long....= stronger.
Oiling a leaf spring is one of the worst things you can do. Conventional straight leaf springs rely in friction between the leaves to supply damping action like a shock absorber. The more leaves, the less you need shock absorbers. If you oil the springs the damping action goes away and the springs will travel much further up and down over bumps, usually causing one or more leaves in the pack to break near the spring perch. This is common on trucks with power steering fluid leaking on the leaf springs. Newer tapered leaf springs only touch in the middle and ends so they rely heavily on the shock absorber for damping. If the shocks get weak then the tapered leaves break.
+B450R they are Saleen Leaf Springs with caltrac traction bars. Install was a huge PAIN, but worth it. I have run those traction bars on this truck and a 1966 mustang. Ultimately, I wanted to build a 4 link setup, but I just didn't have the time. This was one of my best creations. The truck handled like a sports car. I only sold 3 setups like this to 3, very lucky, owners. They all loved them.
+Shane wish you still sold them - I would buy one in a second! build for the truck is here if youre interested in checking or making one extra :) www.atruckslife.com
You have leaf springs, why put this on when the leaf springs do the same job? Isn't the Watts system designed for coil springs since they shift and allow the body to roll where as leaf springs dont??? just curious.. ty
looks like the left tube is bent and flexing, I inverted mine, meaning my bell crank is mounted on the frame with the tubes perfectly running parallel at ride height. I built my bell crank frame so I could adjust it at the frame to match the roll center of the Mustang ll IFS. My tubes are about 14" long....= stronger.
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Seeing how stable the distance between your car chassis and road stays, I'm quite sure your car doesn't have super tight suspension - and I didn't see any body roll. So are you trying to prove that thing works, if you only drive very smooth and straight roads? Cool video, but doesn't really give enough information, if that really works so well.
I'll second that what John Smith say !!
Thanks for uploading this video. Now I know what my rear end housing looks like.
In order to really test a watts link shouldn't you take lots of sharp turns?
Are there any corners in the USA?
@@captainwin6333 one or two
No! Don't do that, you'll likely crash.
@@captainwin6333 in arkansas lol
I would have liked to see what the linkage would perform like over uneven, smooth but undulating, road surfaces. That would show what it would do in turns, also. Looks like a good, and clean, install, though.
The kit is adjustable. This was the first test drive. You can move the propellor down another 3"
Going in a straight line doesn’t show us anything.
Indeed.
The metallic sound is the traction bars engaging and disengaging. We built three of these and decided they were not cost effective. We ran one at the tail of the dragon and the truck couldnt be touched.
3:42 seconds of my life I can't get back!
That driver bar should be in the top hole at the frame.. pretty sure those bars should be parallel....
What type of camera did you use and how was it mounted? That shot is buttery smooth!
You need to hit some turns at speed so we can see what it's doing then.
I prefer the pivot below the centre of the diff, like on the 1997 Falcon.
Corners?
does a watts link really help all that much on a leaf sprung truck. i mean the leafs are supposed to already be doing that job if designed properly. maybe ford didn't make the leafs wide enough to stop the axle from wondering side to side.
Dalton Michaels yes.
build a custom lowered car and leave 1/2" on each side of the tire to the fenders, then hit the corners hard.
yes-it moves. a lot with HEAVY leave springs.
Look at this watt’s linkage version:
th-cam.com/video/dhX6NmkmVYo/w-d-xo.html
Roll center height can easily be changed putting center propeller pivot up or down.
looks like the left tube is bent and flexing, I inverted mine, meaning my bell crank is mounted on the frame with the tubes perfectly running parallel at ride height. I built my bell crank frame so I could adjust it at the frame to match the roll center of the Mustang ll IFS. My tubes are about 14" long....= stronger.
Deesrickchevrolet wasnt bent. camera had a slight fish eye
Thanks!
Looks good
leaf springs with caltrac traction bars
I'm confused. How is this 'Watts Link' system any better (or even as good as) a panhard bar?
Why do you need a lateral locator with leaf springs?
shhhhhhhooowwwww
I've always wondered, couldn't you just oil the leaf springs to make them stop creaking?
Oiling a leaf spring is one of the worst things you can do. Conventional straight leaf springs rely in friction between the leaves to supply damping action like a shock absorber. The more leaves, the less you need shock absorbers. If you oil the springs the damping action goes away and the springs will travel much further up and down over bumps, usually causing one or more leaves in the pack to break near the spring perch. This is common on trucks with power steering fluid leaking on the leaf springs. Newer tapered leaf springs only touch in the middle and ends so they rely heavily on the shock absorber for damping. If the shocks get weak then the tapered leaves break.
are those leaf springs I see on the sides? But it also looks like 4 link brackets on the axle. I'm confused lol :)
+B450R they are Saleen Leaf Springs with caltrac traction bars. Install was a huge PAIN, but worth it. I have run those traction bars on this truck and a 1966 mustang. Ultimately, I wanted to build a 4 link setup, but I just didn't have the time. This was one of my best creations. The truck handled like a sports car. I only sold 3 setups like this to 3, very lucky, owners. They all loved them.
Cual es la función de ese mecanismo en la suspensión trasera?
This doesn't rotate at all??!
A Panhard Bar would of been simpler and more efficient on this setup.
nope
"efficient" lol.
Does it work in a high ground clearenc car, like off road vehicle ?
I've seen one in a Land Rover Discovery 2.
What exhaust setup do you have
Patented in 1784.
Where did you get the diff cover?
Thomas Hogan it's a TA aluminum diff cover with a custom piece I had made, TIG welded together.
Thanks!
do you sell these watts links i would like to buy one from you ?
+Michael G unfortunately, I no longer sell these. The market just wasn't there. The only item I have left is a panhard bar for a dropped 04-08 F150.
+Shane wish you still sold them - I would buy one in a second! build for the truck is here if youre interested in checking or making one extra :) www.atruckslife.com
+broadwayline sorry....I don't have access to any of my vendors anymore.
Seems like a weak system-1 main stress point
I didn’t see anything worth seeing 7 18 2020
You have leaf springs, why put this on when the leaf springs do the same job? Isn't the Watts system designed for coil springs since they shift and allow the body to roll where as leaf springs dont??? just curious.. ty
Too tight top bar bending
looks like the left tube is bent and flexing, I inverted mine, meaning my bell crank is mounted on the frame with the tubes perfectly running parallel at ride height. I built my bell crank frame so I could adjust it at the frame to match the roll center of the Mustang ll IFS. My tubes are about 14" long....= stronger.
no, it's just an effect of the fisheye lens used on the camera