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Been a long time since i gained insight. Time to return to bloodborne vids.
Always coming back
New drinking game, every time he says blood you drink.
Papa Ducknips "it's enough to make a man sick..."
Mitch L That's the true story behind the guy on the floor in Oeden chapel, him and Daddy G had a night out on the town.
Hey we're trying to have a party game not alchohol posioning
Alcohol or blood ?
I don’t want to die
I'm amazed at how people keep digging up stuff about Bloodborne and the best thing is that very few of these theories and analysis are made up, the majority of these elements really seem to have logic and a reason to be in the game.
wrrr
So you rub scabs on your weapons and they get stronger? That's some Salad fingers stuff right there.
Actually, I don't think it's scabs? I believe it's blood iron-- the actual Iron in the blood itself solidifying, and then being melded into the weapons for fortification. Realistically, you COULD make an entire sword out of blood iron, but you'd need to kill a lot of people for that, as blood in the real world coagulates and oxidizes fairly quickly. It is still technically possible though, and I think this is what the blood stones are.
@@odeliafrancescaroav9808 that sounds pretty fuckin metal
@@odeliafrancescaroav9808 have you heard about how when the vikings started attacking england the english soldiers were baffled by their fighting techniques and their appearance? they also noted that the viking's weapons seamed to be made of stronger metal, since the viking axes were able to break the saxon's iron swords. this was before blacksmiths knew how to carbonize iron and thus make stronger steel. well it turns out the viking were making low grade steel unbeknownst to them by tempering their iron axes and swords in animal's blood (possibly human blood aswell, vikings were pretty crazy) they thought they were imbuing the weapons with the strength of the animal but in reality the carbon from the blood was reinforcing the iron, making a semi-steel.
After the release of Dark Souls III, no one really covered Bloodborne Lore anymore. So glad I found your channel! Subbed ;)
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The Thing analogy was brilliant.
In the mouth of madness is a movie closest to bloodborne , also made by john carpenter .
Baron Harkonnen good movie
wrrr
There is also a certain degree of irony that the old one's blood, taken from beings whose whole being were dedicated to ascending beyond their bodies/mortal forms, was used to conceive 'healing blood' for use in blindly injecting into mortals whose whole being was assumedly bent on retain their fleeting mortal forms or revel in the degeneracy of their mortality (e.g. blood was more intoxicating than alcohol & assumedly substituted for it).
I can't help but think that this amazingly stark conflict set up the beast plague as an inevitable cost of such unresolvable differences between the two alien existences.
Dude nice job. I'm no expert but I'm a biochem major and it made sense to me lol
That's what I was worried about so thanks!
Good we can start a meth lab or what ? I can be the addicted bitch screaming
+Jon best comment
this video ties in beautifull with Redgrave's video on Oedon. Really great to see people still digging Bloodborne's lore and actually making worthwile conclusions.
That's one of my favourite videos of his (though it's hard to just pick one) so that means a lot. Thanks!
I cannot express how grateful and happy I am with the marvelous work you been giving to Bloodborne lovers, your videos are only getting better and better, and I can't wait for the next one! So far, this is my favorite of all Bloodborne videos you made, even though is more speculative, but perhaps is precisely why I find it more interesting than the others, since it is about a topic very obscure and not much explored by the lore studies out there.
The Blood Echoes in the japanese version is called literally Echoes of The Blood, which we can assume that is the will of who died that the Hunters are able to perceive, but in my opinion besides their will is also some of their knowledge. The parallel you traced between madness and coldblood tier might be directly connected to the amount of Insight that the person/beast/etc had prior their death, seem to tie Echoes and Insight well together. And if we look it this way, Laurence was not so far from Master Willem when he decided to pursue the path of Blood, he was in a way seeking Insight. Maybe Master Willem realized that the Blood (possibly because of the Old Blood influence) taint any knowledge that could be obtained from the Echoes, and decided to discard the method altogether, and pursue a method that allow one to ascend without any sort of organic contact with the Great Ones.
Again, I am really happy to have one more amazing lore hunter to join this wonderful world of Bloodborne, and for what I would like to see next maybe one in depth study about Laurence and/or Byrgenwerth? In my opinion he is one of the most misunderstood characters of this game, and that institution is one of the least explored extensively (at least lore-video wise), I have a lot of thoughts about the two and I would love to see if any of what you have to say matches with my own theories. Thank you for your amazing work, and please do not stop any time soon.
Theories are so interesting because they're not the only solution to a problem, and not the only sequel to a story. I agree, Mitch's work is top notch.
Wow, thanks for that feedback! Really means a lot.
Don't worry, Laurence is DEFINITELY on the list. He's one of my favourite characters, and his story of ambition, arrogance, and tragedy is really fantastic. I will work towards getting that one out soon.
This is easily my favorite video of yours so far. Which is saying a lot. The idea of Coldblood creating a specific ecosystem where it's spilled with Coldblood flowers, tomb mold, and who knows what else is especially unique and creepy.
Phil Lycosidae thank you!
Blood = strength of your dead enemies (common in mythology)
Coldblood = manifestation of life energy
Blood gems = manifestation of unique skills and abilities
Blood stones = raw physical power
In the end, it's all just cannibalism.
As for the latter part of the video, where you bring up the issue of coagulation via the Beast Blood Pellets, I am reminded of the old philosophical concept of blood’s 4 humors. When blood is settled, it separates into platelets, red blood cells, white blood cells, and plasma. However, doctors did not know that was what they were. Doctors would test your blood to see which humors were elevated or low and attempt to remedy that, thinking that mood and disposition were linked to these humors.
If you think of Miyazaki as using that concept, then that would explain it. 4 humors. One which becomes blood rock. One which crystallizes. One which remains liquid. One which coagulates. And each humor is found in different amounts in different people, changing their personalities due to the blood.
What a great video! I honestly never really gave cold blood much consideration, and didn't realize there was such a wealth of "technical" information to be found there. Very enlightening.
Holy shit man, u go in deeeep :-D u have spent some time on this topic for sure, n thanks for that, amazing theory! n how u guys piece all this together is beyond me, but much appreciated for sure, I would b lost without u lore guys :-D
So we know that cold blood flowers grow from coldblood in places long abandoned. I'm interested into whether this means places no one has set foot in for a long time specifically or simply places with very old infrastructure and that haven't been maintained for a long time as a church or house might be. Taking this into consideration, if we look at the boss fight arena for Gehrman, is it possible all the flowers are in fact coldblood flowers? If so, how many hunters has Gehrman slain after they have come and gone through the hunters dream, and from the extent of their growth we can only imagine how long he's been locked up in there.
I've been really enjoying these! Speculation was great! Thank you for working on these. Next topic should involve Pthumerian Labyrinth , but in particular a focus on the Queen and her opposing roles in the story and chalice dungeons
I love these man you do some great work, research, and comparisons. Just bravo man 👏👌
Dude I love it, can see you put a lot of effort into understanding and expressing the chemistry of the cold blood, keep up the good work :)
here I was just finishing watching a bloodborne video from paragonds and know I find out this video from mitch just to keep satisfying my needs :) thank you kind sir! cheers!
Thanks for making these videos man, I know I'm a few months late but I'm so happy people are still interested in Bloodborne. The bit about Beast Blood Pellets possibly being a placebo is brilliant, I doubt we'll ever get any real proof, but what an awesome idea!
This is my favorite lore video I have seen, and I've watched a LOT of them. Excellent work.
Also, ritual blood based on your analysis would be like whey to blood gem's cheese?
Thanks for your feedback! I suppose that could work as an analogy, yes. I'm no expert on whey/cheese/dairy by-products though. A good way of thinking about Blood Gems is simply remembering that gemstones in real life (emeralds, rubies, etc) are crystals, and form out of crystallisation of magma from the Earth's core, similar to how Blood Gems crystallise out of Coldblood/Blood Echoes. Thanks again.
I’m surprised you left out an overlooked detail in regards to frenzied blood. When a man or beast comes into contact with a Winter Lantern or the Brain of Mensis, the victims blood erupts forth from their body as solid spears which causes physical harm over time then turns back into a liquid. In the nightmare of mensis you will find bodies of church hunters who’ve suffered the worst and that their erupted blood has remained solid spears. True, some would say it’s an indicator your in trouble but I wonder if the Spear erupting blood has more to it then just that. Like I said, the blood erupts forth as spears then turns back into a liquid. Those who’ve come into very close contact with the Brain of Mensis, their blood spears are rock solid. Anyway, just something I figure I should mention. Winter Lanterns fascinate me and I’ve been trying to find lore in regards to them...least my own opinion if nothing else.
This video is really well made, good job !
Mitch L, this was probably the most in depth view of what the bloodborne lore expands to your station. You’ve made very valuable contributions to this lovecraftian beauty.
From what I recall, a certain shifty fellow gives you Beast Pellets after someone taking sanctuary in Oedon Chapel is slain. Perhaps he's just giving you a prized item to thank you for the nice meal, but it could be inferred that he does something to his victims to create the pellets. You could well have walked in on him trying to make more as you found him stooped over the corpses.
I always thought they were the Beast equivalent of a hairball.
+GARGANTUANMASKEDFISH I saw your nickname and your comment I cracked
6 years late but as I understand his dialogue in Japanese also implies more obviously that he needs to make the pellets
very well done video man, I really enjoyed it
This is great information thanks Mitch
WHY ARE YOU SUCH A GENIUS AND AWESOME PERSON, MITCH??
Anyway, great....awesome...superb video as always. Thank you so much for sharing. :D
Aris Niro :D
im always late to the party these days but you made this topic so interesting to ponder about!
Finding this far later than most, but I still think it an excellent video.
Another great lore video.
great video keep up the good work. I love watching/listen when I just go on hunts.
Happy to help. This has been a message from the Yharnam Health & Safety Department.
Remember, only you can prevent outbreaks of beast blood :D
Not really the focus of the video but I deeply appreciate the use of some dark side Star Wars music in the back, fits VERY well alongside your analysis.
You're sharp as a knife man. How I would love to have endless discussions with you on the Soulsborne universe
Great research, great video! Thank you!
I always thought of coldblood and gems to be just a game mechanic
but you have changed that ,Great video
thats the beauty of the Souls games. Every gameplay mechanic has purpose to the lore
Very interesting. Nicely done.
Saw your post on Reddit and I'm glad I didn't ignore it!
Apocolovids I'm glad you had a look! Thanks!
I loved your work on this video. Especially connecting the bubbles in the blood with embolisms.
You mentioned you like The Thing, one of my favorites too, so you might like a short story called "The Things" by Peter Watts. It's from the point of view of the Thing.
incredibly insightful video!
This is fantastic!
Great video man! you totally deserve more praise.
He deserves it more than Vaati. At least Mitch's theories are original.
Kaleb Cranor I agree, I dislike Vaati. He's gotten very lazy, and doesn't have any crazy theories that others have. Looking back he seems very plain. On top of that he rarely uploads, and when he does it's just a 5 minute video stating the obvious. Mitch though, he'll go into the actually biology of blood to explain gameplay mechanics. It makes the game worth playing just one more time.
LoganSoulsBorne4 Exactly. Move over Vaati the Faati, there's a new Lore God in town.
Working on it :P Thanks for the support!
Just a passing trivia fact I learnt from a friend . Menstrual blood doesn't clot
That's because it's not technically blood, right? It's placenta?
@@odeliafrancescaroav9808 Blood, old uterine cells, vaginal mucus, and bacteria from vaginal flora.
Awesome. I tried to make a video about the different types of blood. There are so many. Ritual blood, healing blood, blood as a weapon, blood as a sedative, blood gems, the coldblood flowers, bloodtinge, on and on and on…
This game is almost 2 years old but there is still so much to learn/investigate. Keep up the good work!
Thanks Matt!
There was a moment when I lost the topic from the game to an Engineer Dissertation, well done mate.
Incredible video, really enjoyed your Insight. Ba dum tsss!
AMAZING,NEXT ANALYZE EACH GREAT ONE!!!!
Vicar Amelia that would be awesome! OMG you are called vicar amelia... I just remembered how many times I lost when I faced you... I hate you ;)
ONshowON I remember you...stop just waltzing into the Grand Cathedral, it's impolite!!
The pictures you put up on cold-blood were so hd and detailed that I couldn't focus on what you were saying!¡
Hey, great video. Incredibly informative and a good source of enjoyment. Do you think that maybe the blood in the Hunter's dream is less of a physical fluid and more of an embodiment of the soul? Like it says, it's the memories of the slain that forms echo's, so maybe the dream replaces blood with a fluid that encapsulates the owners power
Nice video as always man, they always leave me thinking about more. A suggestion I have is: It looks to me that the people infected are lower working class people. I am basing this off their clothes and where they are located. Is it possible that the healing church distributed a "cheaper" form of the blood healing to the lower class? Also seeing that others have different or stronger doses(ex: Amelia). Let me know what you think.
Ever thought about doing audiobooks dude? You've got a good voice and it's nice to hear things in my own accent.
Good work
I would love it if you talked about where in the timeline a Bloodborne 2 could possibly fit and what events would be likely to surround it as well as your personal thoughts on whether you would like to see another installment. I personally would love to see a prequel to Bloodborne.
Bloodborne is a completely self contained story without loose ends, a sequel could take place literally at any point in time
Oh boy new viddee!
really good video
beautiful
There's one flaw with your theory that enlightenment leads to advanced beasthood: if the player gets insight, their beasthood stat lowers.
That's a good point. I'd probably counter that by saying it has something to do with Paleblood, something that will be talked about soon.
Mitch L Looking forward to it!
What a cool balancing act for that mechanic. Love it
Great informative vid
You can describe obsession as "inability to forget"
If you are obsessed, you will remember every single facet of something for as long as you are obsessed. There is no stronger memory that exists aside from the extremely rare and specialized version of savants.
If the memories are what creates blood echoes, obsessed people would have the absolute strongest possible memories and will(drive) to remember.
Great video, seriously fantastic. Look at the original japanese of these items and descriptions too!
Wasn't Bloodborne translated from English, not the other way around? I know they did Dark Souls in Japanese first, but I thought the process was reversed this time. I could be wrong.
Nope, Japanese first for bloodborne too.
Could you do a video on the school of mensis/ the choir? Great vid as always!
Mensis is a topic I'm reaaaaally interested in, but will most likely be similar to the Cainhurst vid in the way that it was split into two half hour chunks. I will do it as soon as I have the time to do so :) thanks! (same goes for the choir)
awesome vid
Would love to hear your take on Styx.
Please do it!
could you maybe look into the forbiden woods? there doesnt it always seem interesting to me yet no one talks about it. Also, I presonally like this speculative videos.
Sick video bro. Do a video on the Snatchers. I don't think anyone's really thought about them and they're in the chalice dungeons which is pretty weird.
Snatchers are really cool. They aren't quite beasts, although they do have some beastly qualities. They are found in the Dungeons, yet bring prisoners to Yharghul along with the Yharghul hunters, which would imply they are in league with Mensis/Micolash. Something interesting would be to talk about the "servants" of sorts that Mensis has under it's control. Consider the giants that guard Cathedral Ward. Presumably these are the same race of giants that are found in the Dungeons. Are they slaves? Did Micolash create indentured guards out of them? Interesting stuff!
On top of the snatchers potentially being Pthumerians or Pthumerian-related and working for Mensis, there are also Pthumerian bell maidens present in the Unseen Village after the red moon descends. Makes me wonder about the extent of Mensis' involvement with the Pthumerians and the chalice dungeons
I miss this game so much
We need bloodborne 2
I do have some questions on knowledge in the bloodborne world. mainly the relationship between madness, frenzy, and old ones knowledge. how does madness save one from beasthood as the more knowledge one has the harder it is to be a beast, how does frenzy kill, (it can't be suicide, can it? I understand it inflicting pain, but death? or is this just a gameplay mechanic), and how does sight drive one insain (even one of bloodborne's inspiration from lovecraft's works say that mere sight of a cosmic beast cause a loss of one mental facilities.) and how does knowledge affect your senses (40 insight can prematurely show you the elder ones in the main church yard before Rom), is the mind altered at a fundamental level by its understanding?
Awesome video, really :), this is the second time I watch it. Why not, for the sake of continuity and momentum, you continue with the video on Paleblood you mentioned in the video? Yeah, I know that right now you already put other videos first, but it won't hurt anybody asking for it :)
Emmanuel Gonzalez Caseira It will be next :) I'm just with family for the holidays but when I return and have some time I will put it together. I'm a little nervous because most likely it will be very speculative, and I prefer to work with provable stuff, but we will see what happens. Thanks!
Mitch L You did really well in this one, with really probable stuff to a point that I believe it is what FromSoft though. I think you have a really strong point on lore hunting and in putting logical conclusions. No pressure, but I really want to see that video, when you get the time to put it together and put in here. Take your time :)
What if Oedon isn't formless, but just all the possibly sentient coldblood everyone is jacked up on?
Coldblood = frozen crystals of blood. Hence the crush when you use the kin Coldbloods etc.
Amazing.....
hey I have a request I want to ask of someone who goes as deep into detail analysing lore basically im looking into the nature of the souls in the souls universe, and I've been trying to figure out exactly what they are, how they work, why they are such an immense power source, we know that the Lord souls originated from the first flame but other souls must have come into being since then, I really hope you can shed some light on the topic of souls
This isnt anything related to coldblood. But I was thinking about Annalise and the Vilebloods and I thought of something a bit interesting, it is ofc just speculation. Now when we look at Annalise sitting on her throne there is a second empty throne with a pool of blood that seems as if it came from someone sitting on the empty throne. Now when you look at this, you probably assume that the throne and the blood belongs to the King or the husband of Annalise. This guy was most likely murdered by the Executioners when they raided Castle Cainhurst. But I have a couple of theories on who's throne this may also belong to.
Now I'm not as knowledgeable on the lore of Bloodborne as I used to be, but dont the Vilebloods believe they are descendants of the Pthumerians (correct me if I'm wrong). If this is true, that would mean that the monarch would be Annalise (obviously) as the monarchs of the Pthumerians were female. Also we know from the Ring of Betrothal that Great Ones would essentially marry the Pthumerian Monarchs. So, if the Vilebloods believe they are descendants of the Pthumerians they would also take on much of their culture and traditions. What if, and this is a BIG what if, that sitting in that "empty throne" is actually the Great One, Formless Oedon. We know that Oedon has no physical body, but that doesnt mean he doesnt exist in another form.
This could also explain why Annalise refers to herself as "us" and "we". When you offer her blood dregs she says "Thy gift pleases Us. Let this reward be thine. Indulge thyself in Our tainted blood." She talks as if there is a third person in the room! This might also explain why she refuses your proposal should you give her the Ring of Betrothal. She is the monarch and so must marry a Great One, and she could very well already be spoken for.(Oedon...) There are a few facts that contradict this theory, but this is getting rather long so I will leave that out.
My second theory (and this is much shorter) is that the throne could belong to the "Child of Blood" that Annalise is attempting to give birth too. Thats really all I have for that theory, probably not likely but hey this is Bloodborne, you never know!
Nice Video
you must look up what blood does with snake venom
The idea of blood being a living being got me thinking. What it oden's physical form so to speak is blood echos and cold blood? Oden is known as being formless and think about it the final boss is technically mergo. We know great ones fight eachother and the moon presence seems to be the cause of the hunters and the dream. Perhaps the moon presence and oden are like sworn enemies and that's why the presence wants his child dead. Just a thought
So Micolash was having a mini stroke all along, and that's why he talked as funny as he did! This game is so dark and has unparalleled depth, I love it!! :-D
Where you using Lord of The Rings music in the background?
once the video stoped Ludwig killed me
this may be reaching but the cursed chalices have skulls coming out of them similar to the skulls in the ritual blood is it possible that the ritual blood is the part of blood that's cursed? and extremely good video btw!
That's a reaaally good point. I've been really interested in how curses actually "work" in the concept of Bloodborne, particularly the curse that the Fishing Hamlet shaman levies onto the hunters and scholars of Byrgenwerth. For blood to become corrupted is what BB is all about, after all. Thanks!
After reading the description for beast blood pellets, I couldn't stop thinking they were suppositories. Not really a theory just a hypothesis.
care to elaborate more on what you mean with the watchers "lowering the defenses" of the chalice dungeons with ritual materials? first time hearing that the chalice dungeons have any sort of defenses or psychic wards
There r multiple item descriptions that reference seals requiring rituals to break. Seal is interchangable with the term ward. The chalice dungeons are implied to be a dreamscape or nightmare and not a regular physical place.
The thing is my favourite horror movie!
Oh good hunter
Don't want to be that guy but... Sources? Especially for that bit about over saturation leading to crystallisation because I get the feeling you may not have understood what it said
Unrelated....but after 1,000+ hours I finally fully gemmed the wheel and church pick (32%x3).....holy fuck......holy FUCK. Had no idea it was pure thrust, serrated, AND righteous!!!! Nothing else can say that nor do the amounts of damage a fully 32% adept pick can do. Unreal
Also blood dregs offer 1 insight if consumed
This is a little out there but is it not possible that lumenflowers are actually coldblood flowers but they grow off insight in some way instead since they are always around places of research.
Papa Ducknips Certainly possible. My research into Lumenflowers hasn't been that deep so I can't say for sure.
Got to love how deep Bloodborne is, it's a bottomless pit of lore.
Wish my teacher taught us these things with bloodorne or a game too 😂
QUIVERING QUEENLY FLESH
Let's play a fun drinking game, every time you hear the word blood, take a shot of vodka. You won't get past the 11 minute mark
Do you know how crystals in rocks form? Not as liquids.
Wow so smart! Thank u for sharing that!
I thought pale blood was the moon presence
THE OLD BLOOD IS THE DARK SOUL
THE SUBSTANCE WITH WHICH THE WORLD IS PAINTED
Bullshit.
Hunters Dream is full of arch trees, Rosarias covenant symbol is all over the cathedrals, the sun's in both worlds are illusions created by gods, the New Painting in the DLC is said to be painted with blood, seems pretty obvious.
@@jacobhoover1654 It does seem pretty obvious that elements of ds3 were meant to retcon bloodborne into the continuity.
awesome theory/fact lol
The blood of the Great Ones runs thick with knowledge. With power. The dream is an artery, a holy river that spatters crimson upon the brains of the sky gazers. Stars bleed with the blood of Their Kin. We partake of it in communion and their cold embrace liberates our frail bodies from ignorance.
Be warned, Imbiber, for knowledge is given only to those that echo in tune with the voice of blood.
There... There in the firmament of the blood, will you find the truth of passionate obsession.
- Madman’s Knowledge
I can hear a crying baby now.
Just discovered your channel. I love the way you approach the lore and the way you present it. Great job! :)
D3 m0ni0S thanks!
14:14 feels bad man