I bought this pistol last July for about $750 at a big box outdoor store. I was well aware of the 380 acp's ballistic limitations compared to a 9mm. Yes, there are 9mm pistols that are smaller, weigh less and hold as many or more rounds. It does not shoot as softly as I assumed it would because of it's size and weight. It is plenty accurate and it eats every type of ammo I have fed it. Would I pay $1K for another one ? Probably not. Will I concealed carry this pistol? Probably not. Will it fail after 700 rounds like my Sig P365 380 did? Probably not.
It's a straight blowback design so yes the "felt" recoil is worse than a locked breach. A barrel that doesn't move means more accuracy, and faster times on target. I own a ton of different guns, but the 85F has always been the one I've shot the best. Look at picking up a used 81/82 barrel. It will fit right in, and allow you to shoot 32ACP which is a hoot out of that pistol. Alchemy makes a threaded barrel in 380, as well as 32ACP for $185, and are in stock now. They usually do them batches, so they aren't always available. The extra half inch of barrel is a plus also. Very well made.
Beretta has been making beautiful works of art for 500 Years!! This is not a plastic throwaway gun like a Glock. It’s an Italian renaissance masterpiece!! Period. I have every Cheetah and I will say this one shoots fantastic. Just use Hornady critical defense ammo for carry and you are good to go. Forza Beretta!!! 🙌🏼🇮🇹👍🏼❤️💪🏼🇺🇸
498 years actually 😉 I'm actually looking forward to their 500 year anniversary, I know they're gonna release something for it. Not many companies are even 100 years old let alone 500.
I traded in a shield+ for it and used my store credit to get it, $700 total for a brand new one but only cost me $100 out of pocket. As a 90 series true believer, this is a nearly perfect pistol. I would have rather had the slide decocker instead of the 90x style frame safety, and i do prefer the aesthetic of slanted slide serrations as opposed to the 90x style straight serrations, but besides that I am in love with it. I really dont care that it's in 380, it's a hell of a lot more deadly than 22, it's a solid defense round. The gun fits in my hand perfectly despite being very comfortable with the larger 92fs. I have the standard black model, and just had my gunsmith refinish the barrel and guide rod in INOX just like my 92fs samurai edge build, it's gorgeous. I think only the special color variants were priced higher than $700, but i prefer black guns with some INOX parts. I definitely wouldnt have bought it if it were $1000 given that a 92fs is like $650, but for $700 and getting it with a trade in(I'm finally rid of all my striker fire pistols!) I'm very happy.
What I personally do is rack a round, flip up the safety to decock it, then turn off the safety and lower the hammer the rest of the way via a gentle and short pull of the trigger, so the hammer is fully down but you have 1 in the chamber ready for double action. I just don't like the idea of the hammer floating partially cocked with how the frame decocking works. I definitely would have preferred the 92fs style slide decocker, but I still love this gun.
@@ATthemusician It also has an internal trigger safety that requires almost full pull to release the pin. That intermediate hammer block takes force of that internal safety when decocking. Either way, safe.
I bought the green one. It was a impluse buy. I dont like the handle and ALOT more recoil than I thought. I shot a few sub compact 9mm with much less recoil.
I have the 84 & 85 and really like them . I’m old school and do not like the rail but I like berettas so much I had to get the 80x. This is a great pistol, no issues so far.
I have an 85F. Great Gun. The 80 will take a 81/82, 84/85 barrel as well. Allegheny Arms makes treaded barrels for these, and are available now. I bought their 81/82 barrel for mine which allows me to shoot 32 as well. Super fun round out of that gun, especially suppressed. You get what you pay for, and they hold their value. I have a 70s as well as a 71. Best 22 pistols ever made, and the sexiest pistol hands down. BTW, these were MAIN carry weapons for numerous European, and South American Countries. Italy being one of them. LOL I've yet to have a malfunction with manufactured rounds. 32, or 380. The open slide design is great. The single stack 380 mags work with the 32. Double stack might need an original 32 mag, or some feed lip tweaking.
@@johndomutz1052 My 85 is single stack, and the 380 mags work, and some guys bend the feed lips a little. Double stack, I think you have to find some old double stack mags. Just what I've read. The 85 works fine tough. I got the name wrong it's, Allegheny Arms Very impressed with the quality. Find an old double stack for 32 and should work fine.
@@johndomutz1052 Federal is making Hydra Shok deeps for both the 32, and 380. genius design, and is the best 380 ammo out there. Check out Tools, and Targets for gel test on the 380. Waiting for him to do one on the 32
I have the standard model and love the look of it, but it definitely doesn't shoot as soft as my Ruger Security-380 or P365-380. I can't help but feel like I probably should just grab an XL frame for my 365 and use that as a higher capacity carry option at 12+1 rather than 13+1 here. I still do like this Beretta but I feel like the Ruger Security-380 is a better buy for most people that want a 380 in this size range as it racks a lot easier and shoots softer as well as having more potential capacity. That being said, you never know if you'd have to shoot left handed and the Ruger lacks an ambi-safety.
South-Africa finally got 10 normal black 80x's a week ago, and happy to say "one is mine" :-) And when the green and black one finally arrive in a few years in our country, I will for sure make a plan to get one. Just love Beretta and their reliability. A fire arm that if you look after it you can use, then your kids, and then their kids.
I am actually interested in it for home defense. I have a number of guns in 9mm, 38, and one 45. I live in an apartment and like .380 in that environment due to the reduction in risk of over penetration while still providing an adequate level of protection. I own a 92x Centurion in 9mm and it is my favorite gun that I own.
Its a fantastic gun, will last a lifetime and more - Berettas always do! Just a note; penetration has more to do with the type of ammo than the delivery gun. There are 380 cartridges (as well as 9mm and 45) that provide plenty of stopping power with combinations of velocity and bullet type on all your weapons.
Bit of useless trivia regarding mags, Beretta EU (not Beretta USA) sells 15 round mags for the Cheetah 80X but cannot ship to US. When I called Beretta USA to ask if they could import them, the answer was no (and there were no plans to do so).
Nicely covered. I agree with you that the trigger is very smooth, is a very well made gun and feels nice in the hand. However, find it to be a disappointment. I bought the gun for my wife and the slide is stiff and difficult to crack. Additionally, for a gun in this caliber and weight class it is snappy. Just me, but I feel there are a number of 380's out there at a much better price point that are a better option.
@@jacksoncornbreadmcbride6763Ruger Security 380, S&W .380 performance center. Both are similar size, rack more easily and have less felt recoil. I have two Beretta’s and an HK (both from LTT) so I clearly don’t mind paying the premium for a well-built gun with excellent characteristics. But this is a beautiful gun that is also a very poor value. Suspect it will not sell well.
Overpriced? I mean, you can find these for sub-$600. I'm not aware of any other major manufacturers who sell a full metal framed 380 for near that, especially with an optics plate and accessory rail. If that's what you're looking for, it fills a niche.
I would consider carrying it cocked, and let the DA trigger act as my safety. If I'm using a holster that covers the trigger, that's enough. I think Beretta considered this very carefully, and designed this for users that do not like safety's on their carry firearms, especially those having striker-fired guns with no safety.
Haters gonna hate, but for someone who needs a heavier frame to absorb some recoil, the Cheetah 80X is an excellent choice. Plus, the quality is unsurpassed. If it fits your hand, and you can hit your target, let the haters say what they will. Not everyone can carry a .45 ACP.
I want to carry one of these but no one makes a holster for it with a light, it has a accessory rail for what? Looks? No I put a tlr7 hl-x on it so I can see at all times day or night but no one makes a holster for it. Guess it will just be a paper weight.
It's beautiful, but I'm not paying $1k for a .380 If it was $4-600, then yes. The security .380 is actually extremely good, with a smooth trigger, light action and ergonomic grip. Look's good too, but not in the same steampunk way the cheetah does
Only the special limited colors/launch edition are $1000, the rest retail for $700. Slightly more expensive than the 92fs but I don't mind paying a bit extra for quality steel and aluminum gun compared to a plastic gun, which many of them have sand paper-like grips, very difficult to activate slide releases, magazines that don't click in nicely, sketchy striker fire design, and just genuinely ugly aesthetics.
I think for many of the original Cheetah fans, this the new pistol lacks some of the feel that made the Cheetah popular. Much of the popularity of the orignal is from the feel of that fat rounded grip that is similar to a smaller version of 92 series gun. The newer model just doesn't have the same feel. My original Beretta 81 BB with wood grips feels better to me than the new design. Some also prefer the old safety design while some prefer the newer decocker type. Personally I'd have rather had the new gun make with good sites (maybe a little larger than these) the original safety, a slightly shorter height & length gun (maybe trim a 1/4''-1/2'' from each) with the same lines as the original. That's just my choice though. In the end it's hard to please everyone with a new model
HOLD UP I KNOW 380 cap is more than enough that’s not the problem the real problem here is the price of 380 acp unless your constantly ordering online and scouting for deals it’s close to buying 45acp and almost double the price usually of 9mm so it begs the question is it worth buying it based on that because realistically you can find a steel framed gun in any caliber, size, weight etc. it’s always depending on the amount of money you will need to train with it. I bought one and I love it I just don’t love the price of 380
all it is a performance version of the 84 fs I would rather have a new 84fs yes they make them brand new overseas there not readily imported because there the same price as a 92 so they came up with this and it has a safety lever issues
The safety is a de-cocker , push the safety up passed the safety knoch and it de-cocks the action. Yes... it's not cheap but then again it's Not Cheap . It's the Swiss watch of the firearms world , designed for small hands of the female Ms.Bond type . It is the finest shooting 380 on the market and your paying for THAT ! The double action is a safety feature, however cocked back at the draw puts it in single action for a short 4.5lb pull. As with every firearm practice, practice, practice to become safe and fast , put in the time .
I only use the safety when holstering the pistol. I click the safety on, holster, and then click the safety off. You have the double action trigger and the hammer to rely on. No need to carry it with the safety on. Glocks have no safety and short lighter trigger pull and no hammer making them unsafe to draw and holster. Just my opinion.
Caution before you buy thoroughly inspect the gun prior to buying. I’m posting this because I wish someone warned me prior to spending $2k on guns that will require additional gunsmithing at my expense. I bought two of these for my daughter. Both have asymmetric crowning which has effected the accuracy . I had to drift on of the sights to the far left to be able to hit the target. I sent both to Beretta and they returned them three months later with a comment that they both work fine. BERETTA SUCKS!!!
I bought this pistol last July for about $750 at a big box outdoor store. I was well aware of the 380 acp's ballistic limitations compared to a 9mm. Yes, there are 9mm pistols that are smaller, weigh less and hold as many or more rounds. It does not shoot as softly as I assumed it would because of it's size and weight. It is plenty accurate and it eats every type of ammo I have fed it. Would I pay $1K for another one ? Probably not. Will I concealed carry this pistol? Probably not. Will it fail after 700 rounds like my Sig P365 380 did? Probably not.
You didn’t have the launch edition. But yea it’s an investment from my standpoint
It's a straight blowback design so yes the "felt" recoil is worse than a locked breach. A barrel that doesn't move means more accuracy, and faster times on target. I own a ton of different guns, but the 85F has always been the one I've shot the best. Look at picking up a used 81/82 barrel. It will fit right in, and allow you to shoot 32ACP which is a hoot out of that pistol. Alchemy makes a threaded barrel in 380, as well as 32ACP for $185, and are in stock now. They usually do them batches, so they aren't always available. The extra half inch of barrel is a plus also. Very well made.
Federal 380 Hydra-Shok DEEP is the ammo you want for defense. I'll chrono some, and report back. No joke out of a 4" barrel.
I'm getting around 950fps for the 71 grain ball 32 which is no joke either.
@@gonzob9609 there a better options
Beretta has been making beautiful works of art for 500 Years!! This is not a plastic throwaway gun like a Glock. It’s an Italian renaissance masterpiece!! Period. I have every Cheetah and I will say this one shoots fantastic. Just use Hornady critical defense ammo for carry and you are good to go.
Forza Beretta!!! 🙌🏼🇮🇹👍🏼❤️💪🏼🇺🇸
498 years actually 😉 I'm actually looking forward to their 500 year anniversary, I know they're gonna release something for it. Not many companies are even 100 years old let alone 500.
Agree 100% Exquisitely built
Just like Italian girls, both have sweet curves.
This is the only 380 pistol that I would own. Just a stunning piece of engineering/machining.
Great little .380!!!!!
Its a Beretta!!! Just got the 92x Performance. Its an absolutely gorgeous handgun. Just looks a million times nicer then the Shadow 2.
I traded in a shield+ for it and used my store credit to get it, $700 total for a brand new one but only cost me $100 out of pocket. As a 90 series true believer, this is a nearly perfect pistol. I would have rather had the slide decocker instead of the 90x style frame safety, and i do prefer the aesthetic of slanted slide serrations as opposed to the 90x style straight serrations, but besides that I am in love with it. I really dont care that it's in 380, it's a hell of a lot more deadly than 22, it's a solid defense round. The gun fits in my hand perfectly despite being very comfortable with the larger 92fs. I have the standard black model, and just had my gunsmith refinish the barrel and guide rod in INOX just like my 92fs samurai edge build, it's gorgeous. I think only the special color variants were priced higher than $700, but i prefer black guns with some INOX parts. I definitely wouldnt have bought it if it were $1000 given that a 92fs is like $650, but for $700 and getting it with a trade in(I'm finally rid of all my striker fire pistols!) I'm very happy.
Flip the safety down and pull the double action trigger, the very smooth trigger I might add. You don’t need to carry it cocked & locked.
Beretta 80x is not capable of cock and lock carry, trust me I've done the research, check around. Please be safe out there peeps.
What I personally do is rack a round, flip up the safety to decock it, then turn off the safety and lower the hammer the rest of the way via a gentle and short pull of the trigger, so the hammer is fully down but you have 1 in the chamber ready for double action. I just don't like the idea of the hammer floating partially cocked with how the frame decocking works. I definitely would have preferred the 92fs style slide decocker, but I still love this gun.
@@ATthemusician It also has an internal trigger safety that requires almost full pull to release the pin. That intermediate hammer block takes force of that internal safety when decocking. Either way, safe.
Showing it next to that beautiful machine , I can see how cheaply looking that Glock looks.😮
I just got the 80X urban tactical with threaded barrel and two 15+1 mags for $739.00 at my LGS.
I don’t think I’ll need another pistol, ever.
is that the green one because on camera it looks kinda grey or silver?
Is the Gray edition a limited run edition?
Love the 6lb double action and 4 lb single action trigger.
I bought the green one. It was a impluse buy. I dont like the handle and ALOT more recoil than I thought. I shot a few sub compact 9mm with much less recoil.
which sub compact 9mm has the less recoil? i want to have a look
@@VitMcGnot many. They all suck.
I would like to see the 84fs come back, with no rail.
I'd rather see the 70 series 22 pistols come back.
Me too I don't like the 80x I wish they still made the 84fs
I have the 84 & 85 and really like them . I’m old school and do not like the rail but I like berettas so much I had to get the 80x. This is a great pistol, no issues so far.
There are plenty of good 84fs on the secondary market and also BB variant.
I have an 85F. Great Gun. The 80 will take a 81/82, 84/85 barrel as well. Allegheny Arms makes treaded barrels for these, and are available now. I bought their 81/82 barrel for mine which allows me to shoot 32 as well. Super fun round out of that gun, especially suppressed. You get what you pay for, and they hold their value. I have a 70s as well as a 71. Best 22 pistols ever made, and the sexiest pistol hands down. BTW, these were MAIN carry weapons for numerous European, and South American Countries. Italy being one of them. LOL I've yet to have a malfunction with manufactured rounds. 32, or 380. The open slide design is great. The single stack 380 mags work with the 32. Double stack might need an original 32 mag, or some feed lip tweaking.
I'm interested in the 32 barrel, but what about loading 32's into a 380 magazine? What did you do?
@@johndomutz1052 My 85 is single stack, and the 380 mags work, and some guys bend the feed lips a little. Double stack, I think you have to find some old double stack mags. Just what I've read. The 85 works fine tough. I got the name wrong it's, Allegheny Arms Very impressed with the quality. Find an old double stack for 32 and should work fine.
@@johndomutz1052 I'am assuming you have a 80X
@@johndomutz1052 Federal is making Hydra Shok deeps for both the 32, and 380. genius design, and is the best 380 ammo out there. Check out Tools, and Targets for gel test on the 380. Waiting for him to do one on the 32
@@gonzob9609 Yes, but don't understand your answer on the mag for feeding 32's. If you get a 32 barrell, isn't there a 32 mag (somewhere)for it?
Where did he get that price from. I just bought that exact gun for 600. Shoots fantastic, reassembly is a little finicky.
i bought one yesterday in all black.
i have an all black one & i really like it if your looking for holster muddy river tactical makes a good obw model 84 magazines works.
I have the standard model and love the look of it, but it definitely doesn't shoot as soft as my Ruger Security-380 or P365-380. I can't help but feel like I probably should just grab an XL frame for my 365 and use that as a higher capacity carry option at 12+1 rather than 13+1 here. I still do like this Beretta but I feel like the Ruger Security-380 is a better buy for most people that want a 380 in this size range as it racks a lot easier and shoots softer as well as having more potential capacity. That being said, you never know if you'd have to shoot left handed and the Ruger lacks an ambi-safety.
South-Africa finally got 10 normal black 80x's a week ago, and happy to say "one is mine" :-) And when the green and black one finally arrive in a few years in our country, I will for sure make a plan to get one. Just love Beretta and their reliability. A fire arm that if you look after it you can use, then your kids, and then their kids.
This pistol is for those that like steel, not plastic.
does it come with a dental dam?
@@Simon-talks I take it that was an age poke.
Tell me, why has Glock been turned down by most militaries in the world?
The blow back operation doesn't make it a low recoil option.
I find that direct blowback is such a different recoil impulse. Harde in a way, but less muzzle flip.
@@Catgat37 People usually call it "snappy."
@@John_Malloy snappy to me equates to flippy.
I am actually interested in it for home defense. I have a number of guns in 9mm, 38, and one 45. I live in an apartment and like .380 in that environment due to the reduction in risk of over penetration while still providing an adequate level of protection. I own a 92x Centurion in 9mm and it is my favorite gun that I own.
Its a fantastic gun, will last a lifetime and more - Berettas always do! Just a note; penetration has more to do with the type of ammo than the delivery gun. There are 380 cartridges (as well as 9mm and 45) that provide plenty of stopping power with combinations of velocity and bullet type on all your weapons.
I have a Remington 700 in 3006 and a Mossberg 500 for home. I bought it cause they look cool
Bit of useless trivia regarding mags, Beretta EU (not Beretta USA) sells 15 round mags for the Cheetah 80X but cannot ship to US. When I called Beretta USA to ask if they could import them, the answer was no (and there were no plans to do so).
I just bought one out the door for $642 Nice!!!!
Do I need this if I already have a 92a1? Is just just a smaller version? Someone talk me out of buying it.
I own a 92fs is it a bad idea to buy this nice little. 380 what do you think folks?
Nicely covered. I agree with you that the trigger is very smooth, is a very well made gun and feels nice in the hand. However, find it to be a disappointment. I bought the gun for my wife and the slide is stiff and difficult to crack. Additionally, for a gun in this caliber and weight class it is snappy. Just me, but I feel there are a number of 380's out there at a much better price point that are a better option.
Oh yeah? Then name them pal
@@jacksoncornbreadmcbride6763Ruger Security 380, S&W .380 performance center. Both are similar size, rack more easily and have less felt recoil. I have two Beretta’s and an HK (both from LTT) so I clearly don’t mind paying the premium for a well-built gun with excellent characteristics. But this is a beautiful gun that is also a very poor value. Suspect it will not sell well.
@@scooter5940thanks for enlightening me 👍
@@jacksoncornbreadmcbride6763 Girsan MC 14T modernized double stack Beretta 86 clone. Tip-up barrel makes it possible to never have to rack the slide.
@@dr.a.w Thx Doc 👍
I have a 80x and I like the ruger 380 much better. Doesn't look so pretty but shoots much softer and costs less than half as much.
Overpriced? I mean, you can find these for sub-$600. I'm not aware of any other major manufacturers who sell a full metal framed 380 for near that, especially with an optics plate and accessory rail. If that's what you're looking for, it fills a niche.
The beauty and elegance of a beautifully designed metal gun. Comparing a Glock to a Beretta is like comparing a Volkswagen to a Ferrari.
I just shot mine. TRIPLE the recoil of p365-380, DOUBLE the recoil of 81FS, and more than M9
Sounds like a skill issue
Youre right. It has way more recoil than I was expecting.
Well the 81 is a .32. I couldn’t tell you about the Sig since I’ve never shot one. I have an 84BB and recoil is pretty normal
I would consider carrying it cocked, and let the DA trigger act as my safety. If I'm using a holster that covers the trigger, that's enough. I think Beretta considered this very carefully, and designed this for users that do not like safety's on their carry firearms, especially those having striker-fired guns with no safety.
Haters gonna hate, but for someone who needs a heavier frame to absorb some recoil, the Cheetah 80X is an excellent choice. Plus, the quality is unsurpassed. If it fits your hand, and you can hit your target, let the haters say what they will. Not everyone can carry a .45 ACP.
I am not understanding your thinking on the safety. It's typical DA/SA safety decock. It is what it is.
Exactly what I was thinking 👍
I want to carry one of these but no one makes a holster for it with a light, it has a accessory rail for what? Looks? No I put a tlr7 hl-x on it so I can see at all times day or night but no one makes a holster for it. Guess it will just be a paper weight.
Its Not a 1911. I love the safety.
exactly 👍!
Im in love wirh that launch edition sell it to someone who is obsessed with it (me) and buy yourself something else or a normal one
The whole point of a .380 is less recoil, but with a fixed barrel recoil is increased.
Overpriced, definitely. However you will have a hard time finding a better 380. These are very finely manufactured firearms.
Beretta's website $649 I'm sure one could be found for $600.
It's beautiful, but I'm not paying $1k for a .380
If it was $4-600, then yes. The security .380 is actually extremely good, with a smooth trigger, light action and ergonomic grip. Look's good too, but not in the same steampunk way the cheetah does
Only the special limited colors/launch edition are $1000, the rest retail for $700. Slightly more expensive than the 92fs but I don't mind paying a bit extra for quality steel and aluminum gun compared to a plastic gun, which many of them have sand paper-like grips, very difficult to activate slide releases, magazines that don't click in nicely, sketchy striker fire design, and just genuinely ugly aesthetics.
if you want a clone that’s even better priced it’s the girsan mc14 g84.
I got mine from Scheels for 600
I think for many of the original Cheetah fans, this the new pistol lacks some of the feel that made the Cheetah popular. Much of the popularity of the orignal is from the feel of that fat rounded grip that is similar to a smaller version of 92 series gun. The newer model just doesn't have the same feel. My original Beretta 81 BB with wood grips feels better to me than the new design. Some also prefer the old safety design while some prefer the newer decocker type. Personally I'd have rather had the new gun make with good sites (maybe a little larger than these) the original safety, a slightly shorter height & length gun (maybe trim a 1/4''-1/2'' from each) with the same lines as the original. That's just my choice though. In the end it's hard to please everyone with a new model
HOLD UP I KNOW 380 cap is more than enough that’s not the problem the real problem here is the price of 380 acp unless your constantly ordering online and scouting for deals it’s close to buying 45acp and almost double the price usually of 9mm so it begs the question is it worth buying it based on that because realistically you can find a steel framed gun in any caliber, size, weight etc. it’s always depending on the amount of money you will need to train with it. I bought one and I love it I just don’t love the price of 380
all it is a performance version of the 84 fs I would rather have a new 84fs yes they make them brand new overseas there not readily imported because there the same price as a 92 so they came up with this and it has a safety lever issues
This wouldn't fit any category I'm looking for but I can see why people would like it
The safety is a de-cocker , push the safety up passed the safety knoch and it de-cocks the action. Yes... it's not cheap but then again it's Not Cheap . It's the Swiss watch of the firearms world , designed for small hands of the female Ms.Bond type . It is the finest shooting 380 on the market and your paying for THAT ! The double action is a safety feature, however cocked back at the draw puts it in single action for a short 4.5lb pull. As with every firearm practice, practice, practice to become safe and fast , put in the time .
There is beretta then there is Tupperware
Carry the largest gun that you can comfortably conceal.
I was so excited for this gun and it’s release but that cost was just way too much.
I only use the safety when holstering the pistol. I click the safety on, holster, and then click the safety off. You have the double action trigger and the hammer to rely on. No need to carry it with the safety on. Glocks have no safety and short lighter trigger pull and no hammer making them unsafe to draw and holster. Just my opinion.
Caution: Beretta changed the original 80series Cheetah GRIP profile! Lame!
NOT a real Cheetah.
Caution before you buy thoroughly inspect the gun prior to buying. I’m posting this because I wish someone warned me prior to spending $2k on guns that will require additional gunsmithing at my expense.
I bought two of these for my daughter. Both have asymmetric crowning which has effected the accuracy . I had to drift on of the sights to the far left to be able to hit the target. I sent both to Beretta and they returned them three months later with a comment that they both work fine. BERETTA SUCKS!!!
Bersa thunder plus smokes this gun.
@@toddfrost3019It does NOT smoke the beretta, I have both lol. Hilarious.
With all the downsides for you , I don't believe I would buy it or carry it
Overpriced, berreta acted too dumb this time. Price should be around 500 bucks.
150.00
Ridiculously overpriced.
$638 is over priced?
The launch edition were released in limited quantities. The case itself is worth $1000. The gun is just a bonus.
Yer ma isn't overpriced
@@jayv9286For this gun, yes.
At first definitely, and the green and bronze are still pricey, but just picked 1 up for $564 shipped. Not too bad
Bersa thunder smokes it for what you get!!
No, it doesn't. I had one and sold it three weeks later. It was horrible.
is 380 caliber enough to umm you know