Beretta 84F saved my life on July 7, 1992 after getting shot in Chicago during an attempted carjacking. I've since carried a Glock 43, 43x, and 19, as well as the Sig P365, 365xl and a S&W .38. But the .380 Beretta will always be my favorite gun as it saved my life.
Go back to the Beretta booth and tell them that if one of the planned future options isn't a threaded barrel, they're missing a great opportunity. Honestly it should've been available at launch
Way to go Beretta! Luckily I got my hands on some Guardia di Finanza surplus 84's and have been addicted to .380 and Cheetahs since. This gun is at the top of my list.
$840 for fucking base model .380 which doesn’t come with fucking optic plates?? Would cost them $3-4 bucks for some plates and instead we have to order them later on if they ever come in stock
The 80's series pistols have everything going for them. They are robust and reliable as they are aesthetically beautiful. They are well proven as military and police issue sidearms. My 85f is well over 30 years old with thousands of rounds through it. To date, only a firing pin replacement and a single easily cleared FTE. There is a reason that Beretta has been around for more than 500 years. Bellissima!
Wouldnt it be cool though, if there were cheap aftermarket shrouds you could screw onto the bottom rail to give the 80x that classic, smooth draw, sleek look? And if you want to add a light or laser, just unscrew the little plastic two piece 3D printed shroud.
Beretta won’t be able to keep enough of these in stock! This gun is gonna sell like crazy! This gun looks like a mini 92X in styling. It’s small enough to carry comfortably yet big enough to shoot comfortably as well.
This gun will sell well if Beretta pulls their heads out of their you-know-whats. Beretta marketing is terrible, and this rep mentioning weak hands and female shooters reminds me of the mistake that Smith and Wesson made with the EZ initially. You know who doesn't want to buy guns marketed for weak hands and women? Men. And who's the largest market for handguns?... Men.
@@dtroy15honestly huge, I cringed Everytime they said “this is a girl gun” Like sure that might be your market guy but why are you cutting off the market of weak ego dudes😂
@@dtroy15, It's strange to me that every time a company comes out with an easily shootable, easy-to-manipulate firearm they jump to 'iT's gReAt for wamAn!"
As many others have said, the gun seems pretty cool. But the price really needs to come down closer to $500-$600. It feels like the last couple years of gun releases have all come out twice as expensive as they should. I remember all of the PCCs coming out last year and the launch prices were like $1000 for each of them. $1000 is a lot of money for a gun, especially a 380.
Cutting aluminium costs more than molding polymer. Glock and SIG have guns at that price because the largest piece is plastic, not metal. Not saying plastic is bad, but it is fundamentally less expensive...
I love my 92x 9mm and this would be like having a baby brother to it. I'm not opposed to 380 either... and I love that smoooooth Beretta action. This gun just shot to the top of my list.
@@PPSChadwick People dig the Cheetah. This gun has a market, despite the "this if made for women" spiel. If anything this will hopefully drop the prices of the old model Cheetahs.
im glad to see 380 cartridge getting some more love. try federal 380 hydrashok deep 99 grain for self defense loads. make sure it cycles correctly in your gun first.
i had a p230 stainless and i miss that gun. i wanted to buy one again a few years ago but i couldnt find magazines for it so i passed. got mine for like 500 bucks certified pre owned back in the day. miss those deals. got a p228 like that i also regret selling off
@@jacobmanalang8162 You can find aftermarket magazines for the P230/232 for around $20. However, factory SIG magazines are like a 100 dollars if you can find them!
I think manufactures need to do larger framed 380s. They are so much easier to shoot. And considering a lot of people dont shoot that often. 380 is the perfect round for their skill level. Theyll be faster and better handeling of that gun with that round.
People in here bitching like "the company I own nothing from, made something not for me?! I DEMAND they make a 9mm pistol that's like at least 5 other on the market! It's WHAT I WANT!" -knuckle draggers. People want to complain about the price but own a 400 dollar glock they've turned into a 1200 dollar frankin pistol and are super excited about it.
That actually summed up this comments section pretty aptly... Too fat, want a single stack. Too weak, should be 30SC or 9mm. Too expensive, even though it's a machined frame. Too heavy, even though the entire point of the 80 line since the seventies was to have a shootable mid size low recoil platform. Too oldschool, even though it is, by design, a hammer fired DA/SA. The world is full of fickle bitches. Somehow companies like ZEV and Wilson Combat still turn a profit.
Just buy cheap Turkish copy, rather than breaking it in 300 rounds to loosen the spring. Lock it back in the open position for six months and your gun safe. pull it out shoot at 50 rounds put it back in the gun safe locked open for another three months and Wala. You have a buttery smooth almost Beretta copy.
Beretta always does that. The 92X Compact comes with 13rd mags but Beretta even offers the 15rd Mec-Gar mags on their own sign under the Beretta brand.
They never did. They just weren't being imported into the US regularly. Unfortunately the US market is way too hung up about wanting their striker-fired, polymer 9mm pistols. Personally I'd like to see the market have more variety again. I'd also like to see them bring back more of their older "mouse" guns.
Something I haven't seen much of is that this is a compact .380 that is actually hammer fired! Almost everything is striker and for us hammer folks, we don't have many options.
I used to carry an 85F back in the day... single stack in 380. Love this series of pistols, and even though I have no practical use for this pistol now... it looks SO cool that I will add one just for the cool factor
I was lucky to pick up a “safe queen” 84 first generation before the market went crazy. After a questionable “doctor” attempted carpal tunnel release on my left hand (honestly think he watched a TH-cam video on the procedure and winged it), it is the best fit for me now. I use Lehigh Underwood Extreme Defender - potent little rounds.
So first of all, this is cool and I want one anyways. First thought though when listening to all his strong points was, "have you not ever shot a P365?" It's lighter, it's in 9mm, it holds as much or more ammo, it's smooth and enjoyable to shoot and carry, it's thinner, and it costs almost 400 bucks less.
Do you own a P365?.. Most people don't "enjoy" shooting it, particularly because it's 9mm in a tiny lightweight polymer gun and the trigger isn't great. I'm not a fan of .380 but I do own a 92x RDO, it is quite a nice gun as this appears to be. This isn't necessarily for practicality, this is more of an enthusiast piece.
@Sigrafix I do own and carry a P365. The flat trigger is great, and I love shooting it. It's very comfortable and fits my hand great. I agree with you that this is more of an enthusiast piece for all the reasons I stated. I would still love to have this gun too. I'm a fan of the original.
Been wishing for this for some time. I bought the Tisas Fatih because I wanted the Cheetah so much. Only thing I'd change here is having a non-pic rail version... just looks better in my opinion. Can't wait to get one though. Great job Beretta!
Fun fact: the tisas fatih is interchangeable with Beretta parts. So if you can find a Beretta 81 barrel (good luck) you can use it and have yourself a 32acp sweet little shooter.
As a HUGE DASA fanboy I’m stoked for this product! I hope this opens the door for a slimline DASA carry pistol. Maybe a PX4 slimline. Or even responses from other manufacturers in this compact DASA segment
Over $800? I think most people might be better off with the Ruger Security 380 and have left over cash to buy 380 ammo and maybe even extra mags or better off trying to find a surplus Cheetah.
I wanted the Beretta but bought the Ruger as the cheaper option. I like the Ruger but it has constant FTF's with 100 gr ammo. Because of that, I am trading it in for a Beretta .380 which I should of bought in the first place!
Kind of my exact thought. I'm sure it will be popular. I'd be willing to buy my first 380. But the price, for at least the standard, needs to be closer to $600. There are a ton of good compacts much closer to $500
I do love the Tip-Up barrel of the model 86. They're very expensive on the collectors market I wish they would reintroduce that or more specifically a double stack version thereof.
I wish more manufactures would create larger sized 380 pistols. I think so may focus on racking the slide but shooting a smaller round is just easier. These are better for people who dont shoot often and with less strength to control recoil.
Also meant an 81. 81 and/or 31. But if Beretta came out with high capacity 32, I’d be very excited. Most of the new guns I see coming out don’t thrill me. More plastic and more of the same. This is a least something “Different” an older design updated a bit. Nice. Wish S&W would start making their steel and alloy semi autos again. Love a 5906 or 4505.
I carry a Beretta 84 BB daily, I love it and yes I have been told its a "girls" gun but not a chance, way easier to conceal then a 92 and has the same reliability. I love the look of the new 80 X. Going to go look at one of them to get a new firearm
So now that it has sunk in that we are getting a new-ish compact DA/SA, my wish list is Inox and Covert models. This thing existing is already a big ask, but that would really be the icing on the cake.
I did my first idpa match with my sisters Cheertah (the score didn’t count since it was done with a 380. That was also years ago). Really fun to shoot, glad they are bring it back.
If it was scored how did you stack up? Thats where I think these larger framed 380s shine. They are so much easier to shoot. These idiot marketers always talk about slides being easier to rack but a large frame 380 is going to have minimal recoil. That means better handeling faster follow up and maybe less intimation of the shooter. Not as loud either.
@@mikej5959 I honestly don’t remember, that was almost 20 years ago. I just remember shooting really well, almost all hits where A zones but my time sucked because I was going slow.
I picked up a Sig P365-380 as soon as they were available and have loved it so far. With the Ruger Security-380 being announced recently I've been fairly impressed. But this Beretta 80X Cheetah 380 is getting me very excited and may jump to the top of my "gotta have it next" list. I'd expect the actual retail price to be roughly $700-ish, but since it won't actually be available for a while I have time to save my pennies. Great job Beretta!!
I think its a cool gun, but I just dont see the need to keep this in .380. they seem behind the curve with things like the S&W CSX which is probably the same size and 12+1 capacity of 9mm. cool thought, but why can't they implement it in 9mm?
Why do people assume everyone wants to carry the smallest, lightest, most compact pistols in .380 and 9mm? Plenty of people carry medium and full sized handguns. My smallest carry guns are a Glock 29 and a SIG P239 in .357 SIG. I prefer even larger guns. 3” revolvers and full sized 1911’s. I don’t have a .380 but want to add one to my pistol battery. The 80X is right up my alley and I doubt I’m the only one. “A .380 that size doesn’t make sense when the Ruger LCP Max and the SIG P365 in .380 exists.” Right. Because everyone’s wants and needs are the exact same as yours. People seriously need to get over themselves.
Exactly. I've got a Glock 42, and you know why? It's a throwaway gun, something I won't be heartbroken if I have to use it and it ends up permanently in an evidence locker. It's not pretty or pleasurable to shoot, there's a reason it's cheap. Micro compact plastic 9mms are even more harsh. Anyone comparing this Beretta to a P365, LCP, Hellcat, Security 380, or any of the other much cheaper micro compact carry pistols is missing the point.
The biggest thing that people don't discuss when comparing firearms is shootability. It's one of (if not) the most important aspects of a handgun and shootability is what makes the Cheetah so damn good. Regardless if you are male or female you will shoot better with the Cheetah, period.
People are dumb. They'd rather have a plastic micro-compact 9mm that's harsh, uncomfortable, and they can't hit the broad sign of a barn with on a quick follow-up shot, but cApAciTy Shootability is all that matters.
I really like the Cheetah but tbh it’s not practical. They really should consider doing a modern thin DA/SA. Double action junkies are searching for a good sub compact
2:23 He just contracted himself. He said that .380 allows them to use the direct blowback system, which is true, but then goes on to say that it also allows the use of a lighter recoil spring. That's not true, or rather both things can't be true at the same time in the same gun design. Direct blowback guns need a heavier recoil spring to help keep the slide closed until the chamber pressure drops to a safe level. Generally speaking, a direct blowback .380 will be at least as difficult to rack as a locked breech 9mm, and in my experience is often more so. You can get locked breech .380s (eg Ruger LCP) and they are easy to rack, but direct blowback .380s are usually comparatively difficult to rack, and have snappier recoil. I think Beretta should have made this new Cheetah a locked breech design, to really benefit from the reduced recoil impulse of the 380 cartridge.
Why not bring back the .32 ACP? The .32 is such a good, soft shooter. I have one of these in .32, and it's awesome! I was disappointed when Beretta discontinued them in the U.S. Seems like a lot of these companies are discontinuing the .32 in guns of this size. Walther did the same thing.
Hopefully there's some new PCCs for shot show this year, ones not based around the AR platform. Love the platform but in my opinion, PCCs do best in platforms specifically designed for pistol calibers. I love PCCs for the range, I have 6 of them. lol
I have to agree. love PCC's but way to many are just slightly modified AR's and yeah those are fine, but as you said, they do better when purpose built.
Wow, this is exciting! I have a model 85F, it mainly lives on the night stand, but I do like to open carry it occasionally just for the comments I receive. I dont take it to the range quite as often as I should. I am anxious for this to be at my local shop to put into the hand. Beretta Cheetah's are the perfect size (today we would call it "mid-size" but we all know it should be labeled as Duty Size) for this caliber.
I own both the berretta bb and f / surplus pistols and love them and I am willing to pay the premium they want for the new 80x but 800-1000, that is insane!
@@gutblaster187 So you can by an entry 92 for what around 500 and because of an enhanced trigger makes the 80x worth an additional xxx???..... I will say my surpluses have amazing triggers already, I am interested to see how much nicer the 80x will fire.
@@caseygreb2062 According to HumbleMarksman it can be carried cocked and locked: up for safety alone and up again for decocker. The DA trigger pull is 5 frickin' pounds. Yeah, I'd say $750 for the base black 80X is more than worth it given the rail and optics cut. Are you seriously expecting a modern, all metal pistol to cost as much as a plastic fantastic?! There are already polymer 380 options that would suit your budget out there so why complain? 92Xs are in the $600-$700 range; add an LTT trigger job and you're at $800+. The 92X however cannot be carried cocked and locked for those who roll that way.
@@HollowBurden If I'm understanding you correctly, then my response is Beretta has the black model MSRP at $799 on their website, so $750 from Omaha Outdoors is pretty typical of their pricing. The bronze launch model is limited edition so a premium is unavoidable. Unfortunately, that bronze model might be just too beautiful to pass up on.
If style and aesthetic are of significant consideration, I hope to see an INOX model with a rounded trigger guard and no rail in the future! I hope that these sell well - I'll definitely have to pick up at least one to complement my old Beretta 85BB.
I have a Browning BDA 380 (made in 1982) which is based on the Cheetah. It has the Browning, Fabrique Nationale Herstal, and the PB logos on it. It's an absolute pleasure to shoot, so I can only imagine how well these 80x's shoot!
I think straight blowback guns are much harder to rack than a short recoil gun of the same size. I’ve got a 43x, a P232 and an 84F, the Sig & Beretta require manliness
Army school trained armorer. Loved the M9 and I know how to keep them running, this is my next carry gun...in green if I can find one! Good job Beretta!
Definitely a premium option. I say the only two things that make it worth it is the slide design and flat barrel when the slide reciprocates. Ruger also came out with their new 380. About the same size, has a light racking slide with 15 round capacity. It is the more practical option at less than half the cost of this Berretta 380.
Premium price and can't use my 84 mags? Totally worth it, though, because what we really needed was to be able to put a red dot on and hang shit off of an otherwise easily concealable pistol... Not to mention avoid those pesky feed jams caused by using modern ammunition with the open top slide design and non-tilting barrel. Yay Beretta USA! You can have my place in line for this one, James.
@@invalidcharacters8849 Because its a expensive as hell 380 that is heavy. Very few people want to spend that much money + 380 for a heavy 380 carry gun and "fun to shoot " range gun. It has a market but it is a extremely small one
Beretta once again showing up every other gun manufacturer. Leaps and bounds ahead of the competition with everything they come out with (except maybe CZ).
If it could take 30 Super Carry, that'd be pretty neat. Potentially 15 rounds, I imagine in an easily concealable package with a better trigger than you're likely to get on a polymer subcompact and a rail to boot. I expect it to be a little less mass market compared to your sub-compact polymer guns that run $500 and less, so it wouldn't do much to help push the caliber to relevance, but still seems like it could be good.
If a 1911 platform can increase capacity up to 12 rounds using the .30 Super Carry, then a Beretta better be able to bump that up to 17, if not downright 20.
@@nnerrfman6326 You're absolutely right. I totally spaced and thought this was a falling locking block action like a full sized Beretta and not blowback like ye olde Cheetah.
I hate how the majority of new pistols being released in .380 are pocket pistols. My grandmother is old and had a stroke recently. She can't shoot 9mm out of her old Glock 26 as accurately or well as she used to. After looking for alternatives, my grandmother was able to shoot .380 noticeably better on a Shield EZ. We also tried other .380 pistols, but they were just so tiny. I'm glad that there's a premium .380 being released that's metal and hammer fired. It should handle like a much larger gun too so it's the perfect compliment to her .380 Shield EZ.
@@nitetrekker will do! I'll have to find a range that will have one first. Racking the slide isn't really an issue for her. It's being able to get enough grip strength to hold onto her pistol to mitigate recoil for followed up shots. 9mm used to be no problem for her (even in tiny 9mm pistols) but now it looks like she's shooting .40 with the same pistols.
Definitely cool. I’d personally like the looks of the old cheetah better but if for some reason I wanted a DA/SA .380 for carry, this would be it. A threaded .22lr version would be awesome as well.
Hello my friends. I suggest the Ruger LCP Max for a 380. They're around $400. You also don't have to buy aftermarket red dot plates, cause it's an actual 380 and not the size of a Micro 9. Heck you can buy two of them for the price of one 80x. Enjoy.
You presume everyone cares about carrying the most concealable guns possible at the best price. I carry medium to full sized guns. The smallest being a Glock 29 and SIG P239 in .357 SIG. Been wanting to add a .380 to my battery and the 80X is right up my alley.
@@TheHandHistoryVault Not sure what the hell you are talking about. I have over ten varieties sitting next to me. There are plenty of good .380 defensive rounds available.
@@BeingFireRetardant I know you don't know what I'm talking about since you're ignorant on the subject. There's not "plenty" of good ones available. There's only like 4 that's worth using.
@@vinceblasco @Eric and Neighbor. Vince just named 2 of the 4 worth buying. I'm sure you all didn't even know. 380 isn't 9mm, 99.99% of 380 Hollow Points don't perform well enough to use.
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Beretta 84F saved my life on July 7, 1992 after getting shot in Chicago during an attempted carjacking. I've since carried a Glock 43, 43x, and 19, as well as the Sig P365, 365xl and a S&W .38. But the .380 Beretta will always be my favorite gun as it saved my life.
I bet they were shit faced as soon as you started to fire back. Stupid thugs.
Go back to the Beretta booth and tell them that if one of the planned future options isn't a threaded barrel, they're missing a great opportunity. Honestly it should've been available at launch
an INOX model would be fuggin sick
=M9A4 got shrunk in the dryer
How else will they be able to sell two of the same gun then?
@@modulo3664 is the m9a4 made in italy or the usa
@@gordo3697 They HAD to be made in the US to be eligible for the military contract in the first place.
Way to go Beretta! Luckily I got my hands on some Guardia di Finanza surplus 84's and have been addicted to .380 and Cheetahs since. This gun is at the top of my list.
$840 for fucking base model .380 which doesn’t come with fucking optic plates?? Would cost them $3-4 bucks for some plates and instead we have to order them later on if they ever come in stock
This is possibly the most exciting gun news Ive heard in the past 3 years
Not cheap but it's nice for a 380
The 80's series pistols have everything going for them. They are robust and reliable as they are aesthetically beautiful. They are well proven as military and police issue sidearms. My 85f is well over 30 years old with thousands of rounds through it. To date, only a firing pin replacement and a single easily cleared FTE. There is a reason that Beretta has been around for more than 500 years. Bellissima!
Wouldnt it be cool though, if there were cheap aftermarket shrouds you could screw onto the bottom rail to give the 80x that classic, smooth draw, sleek look? And if you want to add a light or laser, just unscrew the little plastic two piece 3D printed shroud.
Beretta won’t be able to keep enough of these in stock! This gun is gonna sell like crazy! This gun looks like a mini 92X in styling. It’s small enough to carry comfortably yet big enough to shoot comfortably as well.
This gun will sell well if Beretta pulls their heads out of their you-know-whats. Beretta marketing is terrible, and this rep mentioning weak hands and female shooters reminds me of the mistake that Smith and Wesson made with the EZ initially.
You know who doesn't want to buy guns marketed for weak hands and women? Men. And who's the largest market for handguns?... Men.
@@dtroy15honestly huge, I cringed Everytime they said “this is a girl gun”
Like sure that might be your market guy but why are you cutting off the market of weak ego dudes😂
If it was a 9mm Luger I would agree. I assume it will be an ok seller
Hi-Point will sell more 10mm pistols than this Beretta will.
@@dtroy15, It's strange to me that every time a company comes out with an easily shootable, easy-to-manipulate firearm they jump to 'iT's gReAt for wamAn!"
As many others have said, the gun seems pretty cool. But the price really needs to come down closer to $500-$600. It feels like the last couple years of gun releases have all come out twice as expensive as they should. I remember all of the PCCs coming out last year and the launch prices were like $1000 for each of them. $1000 is a lot of money for a gun, especially a 380.
Indeed. Quite frankly. No pistol is worth that much. They're just not.
You're paying for the X-treme S trigger in the premium above the 92.
14% inflation from 2020 to 2022 and more new gun owners than ever before will do that.
Cutting aluminium costs more than molding polymer. Glock and SIG have guns at that price because the largest piece is plastic, not metal. Not saying plastic is bad, but it is fundamentally less expensive...
Is a premium handgun it won't happen but
Near the Glock and Sig Price they have the Beretta APX models
I love my 92x 9mm and this would be like having a baby brother to it. I'm not opposed to 380 either... and I love that smoooooth Beretta action.
This gun just shot to the top of my list.
Same here, my 92x needs a mini-me!!
A reimagined Cheetah - a move elegant weapon for a more civilized shooter 😎
“Civilized”? It will flop on it’s ass. A cool novelty gun at best but no way will this ever replace anything that isn’t already in the market already.
@@PPSChadwick People dig the Cheetah. This gun has a market, despite the "this if made for women" spiel. If anything this will hopefully drop the prices of the old model Cheetahs.
I would definitely pick up an older cheetah, they come up from time to time but I always seem to miss my opportunity to obtain one.
@@PPSChadwick a philistine like yourself wouldn’t understand the appeal
@ Lee Westmoreland I totally validate that statement 100%
im glad to see 380 cartridge getting some more love. try federal 380 hydrashok deep 99 grain for self defense loads. make sure it cycles correctly in your gun first.
The .380 is making a comeback baby! My Sig P232 is still carried and still shoots laser beams. So happy that the Cheetah has returned!
Love my P232. Way under rated.
i had a p230 stainless and i miss that gun. i wanted to buy one again a few years ago but i couldnt find magazines for it so i passed.
got mine for like 500 bucks certified pre owned back in the day. miss those deals. got a p228 like that i also regret selling off
@@jacobmanalang8162 You can find aftermarket magazines for the P230/232 for around $20. However, factory SIG magazines are like a 100 dollars if you can find them!
@@jonnyt16 oh nice! i used to buy act mags for my p220, didnt know the p230/232 had something thatd work as well. maybe i do need another one!
I think manufactures need to do larger framed 380s. They are so much easier to shoot. And considering a lot of people dont shoot that often. 380 is the perfect round for their skill level. Theyll be faster and better handeling of that gun with that round.
People in here bitching like "the company I own nothing from, made something not for me?! I DEMAND they make a 9mm pistol that's like at least 5 other on the market! It's WHAT I WANT!" -knuckle draggers. People want to complain about the price but own a 400 dollar glock they've turned into a 1200 dollar frankin pistol and are super excited about it.
That actually summed up this comments section pretty aptly...
Too fat, want a single stack.
Too weak, should be 30SC or 9mm.
Too expensive, even though it's a machined frame.
Too heavy, even though the entire point of the 80 line since the seventies was to have a shootable mid size low recoil platform.
Too oldschool, even though it is, by design, a hammer fired DA/SA.
The world is full of fickle bitches. Somehow companies like ZEV and Wilson Combat still turn a profit.
@No Body sounds like you make poor financial choices. Ps: just because you're poor, doesn't mean other people are
Green? I want one
Edit: $850? Nevermind, I no longer want one.
Yeah, not worth that. You can pick up a nice original 84BB for less than half.
Give it 6 months to a year and it will be down around the 92fs price.
@@Eric__B where though? Bb or fs, inventory doesnt exist online. I've been searching off and on for years. This reason alone will drive me to the 80x
Just buy cheap Turkish copy, rather than breaking it in 300 rounds to loosen the spring. Lock it back in the open position for six months and your gun safe. pull it out shoot at 50 rounds put it back in the gun safe locked open for another three months and Wala. You have a buttery smooth almost Beretta copy.
Tisas fatih 13 its a clone very nice only $320
Totally getting one of these. Can't wait to see if they come out with some mag extensions for some more rounds.
You might as well pay Beretta a subscription fee every month.
If the standard or original design capacity was 13 then mecgar should be able to squeeze 15 in.
@TheHandHistoryVault 🤣🤣🤣🤣 if your mind goes to monthly subscriptions right away. You might wanna lay off those hand humping sites buddy.
If they can't make the mags hold at least 15 round then it's an insult
Beretta always does that. The 92X Compact comes with 13rd mags but Beretta even offers the 15rd Mec-Gar mags on their own sign under the Beretta brand.
Finally, a new CCW option for those of us who like metal, DA/SA guns ..wish it was in 9mm though
They should have never stopped production of their Cheetah series. They saw $$$ when good 30 year old examples are going for $800 to $1,000.
Exactly. They made good improvements on the design, but it's truly a money grab.
They never did. They just weren't being imported into the US regularly. Unfortunately the US market is way too hung up about wanting their striker-fired, polymer 9mm pistols. Personally I'd like to see the market have more variety again. I'd also like to see them bring back more of their older "mouse" guns.
@@YaketyYakDontTalkBack everything in 2023 is a money grab
It’s called demand and supply.
I got a reasonably clean example a year ago for $400. I might still get one of these
Something I haven't seen much of is that this is a compact .380 that is actually hammer fired! Almost everything is striker and for us hammer folks, we don't have many options.
I used to carry an 85F back in the day... single stack in 380. Love this series of pistols, and even though I have no practical use for this pistol now... it looks SO cool that I will add one just for the cool factor
Please give us an option to buy one without the rail like you did on the 92X Compact.
I was lucky to pick up a “safe queen” 84 first generation before the market went crazy. After a questionable “doctor” attempted carpal tunnel release on my left hand (honestly think he watched a TH-cam video on the procedure and winged it), it is the best fit for me now. I use Lehigh Underwood Extreme Defender - potent little rounds.
Those Underwood extreme series are great, good choice. with 380 being on the slightly weaker side having quality bullets makes a difference
So first of all, this is cool and I want one anyways. First thought though when listening to all his strong points was, "have you not ever shot a P365?" It's lighter, it's in 9mm, it holds as much or more ammo, it's smooth and enjoyable to shoot and carry, it's thinner, and it costs almost 400 bucks less.
And it comes in 380
Do you own a P365?.. Most people don't "enjoy" shooting it, particularly because it's 9mm in a tiny lightweight polymer gun and the trigger isn't great. I'm not a fan of .380 but I do own a 92x RDO, it is quite a nice gun as this appears to be. This isn't necessarily for practicality, this is more of an enthusiast piece.
@Sigrafix I do own and carry a P365. The flat trigger is great, and I love shooting it. It's very comfortable and fits my hand great. I agree with you that this is more of an enthusiast piece for all the reasons I stated. I would still love to have this gun too. I'm a fan of the original.
@@Sigrafix They fixed some of the recoil impulse issues with the Macro.
Not everyone cares about the most compact and lightest 9 and .380’s.
Smallest gun I carry weighs 27.5 ounces.
lost me at $1k for a 380. i'll stick with my cheap cz p07
Been wishing for this for some time. I bought the Tisas Fatih because I wanted the Cheetah so much. Only thing I'd change here is having a non-pic rail version... just looks better in my opinion. Can't wait to get one though. Great job Beretta!
I almost bought a Tina's Faith because I wanted a Cheetah so much. I'm glad I didn't with this announcement
@@SomeGuy-hy9zfwith the price of the 80x, it’s still probably going to have to be the Tisas for me lol
Agreed - I hope Beretta debuts a no-rail variant for these Cheetahs.
Agree. Drop the rail and this will be a homerun. This gun has great lines other than the rail.
Fun fact: the tisas fatih is interchangeable with Beretta parts. So if you can find a Beretta 81 barrel (good luck) you can use it and have yourself a 32acp sweet little shooter.
As a HUGE DASA fanboy I’m stoked for this product! I hope this opens the door for a slimline DASA carry pistol. Maybe a PX4 slimline. Or even responses from other manufacturers in this compact DASA segment
Beretta used to make a 92 Compact Type M. Small, single stack 92. They were incredible. That's the gun you're looking for.
I doubt anyone except Beretta and CZ are going to keep investing in their DA/SA platforms. And that's fine by me.
$849....I think
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It weighs the same as my SW 6906. I wish Beretta would build a da/sa tool gun instead of a jewel(priced) gun.
Over $800? I think most people might be better off with the Ruger Security 380 and have left over cash to buy 380 ammo and maybe even extra mags or better off trying to find a surplus Cheetah.
"Most people" are going to buy 9mms. Beretta clearly has a more polished customer in mind.
I wanted the Beretta but bought the Ruger as the cheaper option. I like the Ruger but it has constant FTF's with 100 gr ammo. Because of that, I am trading it in for a Beretta .380 which I should of bought in the first place!
I’m interested but that price is gonna have to come down a bit, lol. Great video, can’t wait for all the shot show coverage!
What did they say the price was?
999 for launch edition, 849 for the standard (black)
I was thinking the same, I dig it, but price is a bit steep
No kidding. This is like a $600 gun, it doesn’t even have night sights
Kind of my exact thought. I'm sure it will be popular. I'd be willing to buy my first 380. But the price, for at least the standard, needs to be closer to $600. There are a ton of good compacts much closer to $500
@@acewings221 Thats exactly what i was thinking. around $600 sounds like a much more reasonable price for this than almost a grand
I do love the Tip-Up barrel of the model 86. They're very expensive on the collectors market I wish they would reintroduce that or more specifically a double stack version thereof.
Love those guns. Always wondered why they were discontinued. I have an 81 .32 acp and a 84 BB .380. My favorites out of 21 hand guns.
I also have a model 81. LOK makes a great set of grips for them.
Marketing and laws changing would be my guess. Also most consumers being dumb asses.
I wish more manufactures would create larger sized 380 pistols. I think so may focus on racking the slide but shooting a smaller round is just easier. These are better for people who dont shoot often and with less strength to control recoil.
Also meant an 81. 81 and/or 31. But if Beretta came out with high capacity 32, I’d be very excited. Most of the new guns I see coming out don’t thrill me. More plastic and more of the same. This is a least something “Different” an older design updated a bit. Nice. Wish S&W would start making their steel and alloy semi autos again. Love a 5906 or 4505.
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When 380 ammo is priced the same or less than 9mm I may consider one. It adds up when you are throwing hundreds of rounds at a target.
I carry a Beretta 84 BB daily, I love it and yes I have been told its a "girls" gun but not a chance, way easier to conceal then a 92 and has the same reliability. I love the look of the new 80 X. Going to go look at one of them to get a new firearm
How do you carry it? Cocked and locked?
@@XDMIIIIIIIII Nah, I carry hammer down safety off. I carry a clone though, Tisas Fatih is a turkish 84bb.
@@XDMIIIIIIIII I carry mine hammer down safety off. I want to be able to just pull it out and put rounds on
Frame-mounted safety with a de-cocker! Gotta love that...
So now that it has sunk in that we are getting a new-ish compact DA/SA, my wish list is Inox and Covert models. This thing existing is already a big ask, but that would really be the icing on the cake.
I bet if they sell a 10 thousand of these they will come.
I did my first idpa match with my sisters Cheertah (the score didn’t count since it was done with a 380. That was also years ago). Really fun to shoot, glad they are bring it back.
If it was scored how did you stack up? Thats where I think these larger framed 380s shine. They are so much easier to shoot. These idiot marketers always talk about slides being easier to rack but a large frame 380 is going to have minimal recoil. That means better handeling faster follow up and maybe less intimation of the shooter. Not as loud either.
@@mikej5959 I honestly don’t remember, that was almost 20 years ago. I just remember shooting really well, almost all hits where A zones but my time sucked because I was going slow.
@@mc909a Gotcha. I took "years ago" to mean more recently than that.
I picked up a Sig P365-380 as soon as they were available and have loved it so far. With the Ruger Security-380 being announced recently I've been fairly impressed. But this Beretta 80X Cheetah 380 is getting me very excited and may jump to the top of my "gotta have it next" list. I'd expect the actual retail price to be roughly $700-ish, but since it won't actually be available for a while I have time to save my pennies. Great job Beretta!!
I just got a p365 .380 and this gun has me considering it as another .380 option as well. This is a nice looking pistol.
The sig is a nice boring EDC. Great gun. But the Italian's got sex appeal!
I think its a cool gun, but I just dont see the need to keep this in .380. they seem behind the curve with things like the S&W CSX which is probably the same size and 12+1 capacity of 9mm. cool thought, but why can't they implement it in 9mm?
Why do people assume everyone wants to carry the smallest, lightest, most compact pistols in .380 and 9mm?
Plenty of people carry medium and full sized handguns. My smallest carry guns are a Glock 29 and a SIG P239 in .357 SIG. I prefer even larger guns. 3” revolvers and full sized 1911’s.
I don’t have a .380 but want to add one to my pistol battery. The 80X is right up my alley and I doubt I’m the only one.
“A .380 that size doesn’t make sense when the Ruger LCP Max and the SIG P365 in .380 exists.”
Right. Because everyone’s wants and needs are the exact same as yours.
People seriously need to get over themselves.
Exactly. I've got a Glock 42, and you know why? It's a throwaway gun, something I won't be heartbroken if I have to use it and it ends up permanently in an evidence locker. It's not pretty or pleasurable to shoot, there's a reason it's cheap. Micro compact plastic 9mms are even more harsh.
Anyone comparing this Beretta to a P365, LCP, Hellcat, Security 380, or any of the other much cheaper micro compact carry pistols is missing the point.
The biggest thing that people don't discuss when comparing firearms is shootability. It's one of (if not) the most important aspects of a handgun and shootability is what makes the Cheetah so damn good. Regardless if you are male or female you will shoot better with the Cheetah, period.
People are dumb. They'd rather have a plastic micro-compact 9mm that's harsh, uncomfortable, and they can't hit the broad sign of a barn with on a quick follow-up shot, but cApAciTy
Shootability is all that matters.
Finally, a large and expensive .380
I really like the Cheetah but tbh it’s not practical. They really should consider doing a modern thin DA/SA. Double action junkies are searching for a good sub compact
So let’s motivate Taurus to scale down their PT92
2:23 He just contracted himself. He said that .380 allows them to use the direct blowback system, which is true, but then goes on to say that it also allows the use of a lighter recoil spring.
That's not true, or rather both things can't be true at the same time in the same gun design.
Direct blowback guns need a heavier recoil spring to help keep the slide closed until the chamber pressure drops to a safe level.
Generally speaking, a direct blowback .380 will be at least as difficult to rack as a locked breech 9mm, and in my experience is often more so.
You can get locked breech .380s (eg Ruger LCP) and they are easy to rack, but direct blowback .380s are usually comparatively difficult to rack, and have snappier recoil.
I think Beretta should have made this new Cheetah a locked breech design, to really benefit from the reduced recoil impulse of the 380 cartridge.
I love "big" 380's with a locking mechanism. The Browning mini 1911 is a great example of this. It feels like a 22 to shoot
I've carried a model 84 cheetah off and on for years, it's a great gun.
I'm excited for this personally, I've always enjoyed .380s and the cheetah series is one of the coolest most attractive handguns out there.
Why not bring back the .32 ACP? The .32 is such a good, soft shooter. I have one of these in .32, and it's awesome! I was disappointed when Beretta discontinued them in the U.S. Seems like a lot of these companies are discontinuing the .32 in guns of this size. Walther did the same thing.
Looks awesome but 800 to 900 dollars is way to much. Maybe if it was sub 600 but that's alot of money.
I'm a 9mm or .45 ACP kinda guy. It's lovely and probably way better than most double stack, double Action, compact, Semi-Automatic Handguns.
They killed it before it started with that price tag. It's cheaper to buy a dang 92f
Any chance they could hook up with FN again and do an update of the Browning BDA based on the new Cheetah?
The da/sa market will love this thing. Even the 92x compact is a chunky girl so this will feel like a breeze to carry in summer. We like 'em thicc
i’d honestly like a slick version with no optic readiness and rail tbh just to have a nice looking gun.
Hopefully there's some new PCCs for shot show this year, ones not based around the AR platform. Love the platform but in my opinion, PCCs do best in platforms specifically designed for pistol calibers. I love PCCs for the range, I have 6 of them. lol
I have to agree. love PCC's but way to many are just slightly modified AR's and yeah those are fine, but as you said, they do better when purpose built.
I’d like to see one without the pic rail maybe a stainless version as well
I used to have 2 84fs’. One black and one nickel. Wonderful little guns.
You might be able to buy both back for what they want for this.
@@matthutchinson4899 lol I wish. The nickel 84FS goes for about 1,800 now.
Ouch prices have gone up. Didn't think of it till after I commented.
i have been wanting an optic ready pistol in 380 literally for as long as i can remember lol
I buying one of these for my wife cause if I buy it " For her " it doesn't subtract from " My " firearms purchasing budget.
A Cheetah looking like a small 92 , but could have made a 15 round magazine than, we already have a Cheetah in 380acp with 13 rounds , the 84.
I want Beretta to BRING BACK the 92FS Compact Type M! Are you listening, Beretta?
Having owned one, and sold it, I couldn't agree more. Most people aren't familiar with the M, but it's by far the best Beretta I've ever owned.
Wow, this is exciting! I have a model 85F, it mainly lives on the night stand, but I do like to open carry it occasionally just for the comments I receive. I dont take it to the range quite as often as I should. I am anxious for this to be at my local shop to put into the hand.
Beretta Cheetah's are the perfect size (today we would call it "mid-size" but we all know it should be labeled as Duty Size) for this caliber.
I own both the berretta bb and f / surplus pistols and love them and I am willing to pay the premium they want for the new 80x but 800-1000, that is insane!
The premium comes from the performance trigger. There already plenty of other gubs out there that will get you from A to B at a lower cost.
@@gutblaster187 So you can by an entry 92 for what around 500 and because of an enhanced trigger makes the 80x worth an additional xxx???..... I will say my surpluses have amazing triggers already, I am interested to see how much nicer the 80x will fire.
@@caseygreb2062 According to HumbleMarksman it can be carried cocked and locked: up for safety alone and up again for decocker. The DA trigger pull is 5 frickin' pounds. Yeah, I'd say $750 for the base black 80X is more than worth it given the rail and optics cut. Are you seriously expecting a modern, all metal pistol to cost as much as a plastic fantastic?! There are already polymer 380 options that would suit your budget out there so why complain?
92Xs are in the $600-$700 range; add an LTT trigger job and you're at $800+. The 92X however cannot be carried cocked and locked for those who roll that way.
@Larry Frye fair enough, but as quoted in the video, your about $100 shy of the absolute cheapest base black model....
@@HollowBurden If I'm understanding you correctly, then my response is Beretta has the black model MSRP at $799 on their website, so $750 from Omaha Outdoors is pretty typical of their pricing. The bronze launch model is limited edition so a premium is unavoidable. Unfortunately, that bronze model might be just too beautiful to pass up on.
They need to make one in 9mm to compete with Sig and Glock micro compacts. I don’t know why they wouldn’t do that from the start.
If style and aesthetic are of significant consideration, I hope to see an INOX model with a rounded trigger guard and no rail in the future! I hope that these sell well - I'll definitely have to pick up at least one to complement my old Beretta 85BB.
I have a Browning BDA 380 (made in 1982) which is based on the Cheetah. It has the Browning, Fabrique Nationale Herstal, and the PB logos on it. It's an absolute pleasure to shoot, so I can only imagine how well these 80x's shoot!
Those where made by Beretta I think. Same gun with Browning name
Beretta should offer us their 80X and their 84
I think straight blowback guns are much harder to rack than a short recoil gun of the same size. I’ve got a 43x, a P232 and an 84F, the Sig & Beretta require manliness
Cheeta go purr
Army school trained armorer. Loved the M9 and I know how to keep them running, this is my next carry gun...in green if I can find one! Good job Beretta!
That will be fun, and a huge hit just like the old one.
Definitely a premium option. I say the only two things that make it worth it is the slide design and flat barrel when the slide reciprocates. Ruger also came out with their new 380. About the same size, has a light racking slide with 15 round capacity. It is the more practical option at less than half the cost of this Berretta 380.
Premium price and can't use my 84 mags? Totally worth it, though, because what we really needed was to be able to put a red dot on and hang shit off of an otherwise easily concealable pistol... Not to mention avoid those pesky feed jams caused by using modern ammunition with the open top slide design and non-tilting barrel. Yay Beretta USA! You can have my place in line for this one, James.
It's the current year and people like to carry pistols with lights and optics.
Are you insane? The 92 eats everything as is renowned for doing so.
How about a retro blued version for this retro gun?
A tip-up barrel version would be awesome - just a totally fun and rare option to have - love those designs !!
That's what I'd like to see, the old 86s are going for like 2k now.
Beretta 84 cheetah has always been my favorite gun. I have several i love evrything bout em cant wait
I love my 84F. I can't see any reason I wouldn't buy one of these at least to try out.
My favorite pocket pistol has always been the 84/85 pistols this one seems to be genuine upgrade in every fashion
Im very excited for this. Its going to sell poorly and l'll be able to scoop this for like 500
Lol, yes.
@Invalid Characters Because Beretta is a One Hit Wonder when it comes to pistols.
@@TheHandHistoryVault Just like Glock? 🤔😎🤣
@@UNPROFOR1994 🤔 ... 🤭 ... 🤣
@@invalidcharacters8849 Because its a expensive as hell 380 that is heavy. Very few people want to spend that much money + 380 for a heavy 380 carry gun and "fun to shoot " range gun. It has a market but it is a extremely small one
Beretta once again showing up every other gun manufacturer. Leaps and bounds ahead of the competition with everything they come out with (except maybe CZ).
Stoked to see this! So tired of the mundane little plastic fantastics.
My nickname for this gun is the "Baby 92". Will buy when they make an Inox variant!
Quite pricy, but it is unique
What about the true 80 series caliber, .32ACP?
If it could take 30 Super Carry, that'd be pretty neat. Potentially 15 rounds, I imagine in an easily concealable package with a better trigger than you're likely to get on a polymer subcompact and a rail to boot. I expect it to be a little less mass market compared to your sub-compact polymer guns that run $500 and less, so it wouldn't do much to help push the caliber to relevance, but still seems like it could be good.
If a 1911 platform can increase capacity up to 12 rounds using the .30 Super Carry, then a Beretta better be able to bump that up to 17, if not downright 20.
I don't think .30 super carry would work in a blowback this size.
@@nnerrfman6326 You're absolutely right. I totally spaced and thought this was a falling locking block action like a full sized Beretta and not blowback like ye olde Cheetah.
The Beretta would be a nice formal Carry pistol and hopefully comes out in 30 super. Something of an update to the 31fs.
I hate how the majority of new pistols being released in .380 are pocket pistols. My grandmother is old and had a stroke recently. She can't shoot 9mm out of her old Glock 26 as accurately or well as she used to. After looking for alternatives, my grandmother was able to shoot .380 noticeably better on a Shield EZ. We also tried other .380 pistols, but they were just so tiny. I'm glad that there's a premium .380 being released that's metal and hammer fired. It should handle like a much larger gun too so it's the perfect compliment to her .380 Shield EZ.
Might want to let her try it first because the slide is not likely to be anywhere near as easy to manage as the 380 EZ.
@@nitetrekker will do! I'll have to find a range that will have one first. Racking the slide isn't really an issue for her. It's being able to get enough grip strength to hold onto her pistol to mitigate recoil for followed up shots. 9mm used to be no problem for her (even in tiny 9mm pistols) but now it looks like she's shooting .40 with the same pistols.
I think the price will hinder this in the USA. However, those countries that .380 is the max pistol caliber , will probably do ok. At least for LEO's.
thats a awful high price for a 380
People are paying 800 plus for the 365 macros. And every other week sig drops a new 320 for a thousand plus dollars it wont be a glock 10
@@nunyabidness7547 yeah but govt agencies dont care how they spend other people's money.
@@gordo3697 the macro is a 9mm..the 380 365 is more like 5 bills..
DA/SA, optic ready, pic rail, sub compact, concealable
HELL YAH
Cost
DAMN
I want one but goddamn it’s more than a brand new M9, I wasn’t expecting that
Definitely cool. I’d personally like the looks of the old cheetah better but if for some reason I wanted a DA/SA .380 for carry, this would be it.
A threaded .22lr version would be awesome as well.
I’m buying one. My dealer has 6 on order.
We need a new 86 Tip Up and steel frames for the .32 ACP tip ups so they can handle +P without grenading.
Hello my friends. I suggest the Ruger LCP Max for a 380. They're around $400. You also don't have to buy aftermarket red dot plates, cause it's an actual 380 and not the size of a Micro 9. Heck you can buy two of them for the price of one 80x. Enjoy.
You presume everyone cares about carrying the most concealable guns possible at the best price.
I carry medium to full sized guns. The smallest being a Glock 29 and SIG P239 in .357 SIG.
Been wanting to add a .380 to my battery and the 80X is right up my alley.
"Enjoy?"
Nobody enjoys firing plastic pocket carry guns.
Wonderfull.
Necessary options: Inox finish and threaded barrell
Desireable options: classic handguard and .32 acp
Finally It's beginning
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I'm just gonna say that good .380 ACP hollow point ammo is fantastic in 2023. ...Yeah, sure 9mm gets it done, but not by much more.
No it's not. There's only one good "hollow" point for 380. And it barely does the job.
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Not sure what the hell you are talking about. I have over ten varieties sitting next to me. There are plenty of good .380 defensive rounds available.
@@BeingFireRetardant I know you don't know what I'm talking about since you're ignorant on the subject. There's not "plenty" of good ones available. There's only like 4 that's worth using.
The Underwood Xtreme Penetrator and Xtreme Defender make for EXCELLENT 380 carry rounds as well.
@@vinceblasco @Eric and Neighbor. Vince just named 2 of the 4 worth buying. I'm sure you all didn't even know. 380 isn't 9mm, 99.99% of 380 Hollow Points don't perform well enough to use.
380 is back baby!