When Mentally Deficient Turtles Play Chess... | Is It Imba Or Do I Suck
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"If they were a bird, they'd really struggle with cats." --> Instant classic
I actually laughed so hard out load at that
That was great!
To be fair I'll think ostrichs struggle with leopards. So they are actually birds struggling with cats out there.
@@asddasdasdasdadsa ostrich are the turtles of birds !
would be a kiwi XD
14:10 "I don't think Canada has much oil"
Canada has the third largest oil reserves in the world
Don't say it too loud or their neighbors will come and take it
@@Harstem YEEEEHAWWWW DID SOMEONE SAY OIL??? GET READY TO BE LIBERATED EHH!!!
They are mostly polite people that don't annoy anyone that's why no one touches their oil, I assume.
@@Harstem We sell most of it to the Americans already. Canada is the second largest country in the world by land area next to Russia and we have a lot of resources for that reason. We're world leaders in uranium, zinc, nickel, potash, asbestos, sulfur, cadmium, and titanium production and we have large reserves of iron ore, coal, petroleum, gold, copper, silver, lead, and many ferroalloys. Beyond that clean freshwater and timber are also major natural resources we enjoy in abundance.
@@AlvinY4kitori They sell like 70% of it to the US
He just doesn't want his boys to overdose on those dangerous drugs
he clearly stated so in the cocaine addicts sentence
@@LvGbLiNd i think the problem was the ghosts in the selection having priority, you gotta tab to marines to press T, tricks me every time also, same with raven, BC
ok harstem figured it out too, i was writing the comment after seeing the first fight
I've been a Terran my whole life and I've yet to see flying buildings.
The turtles stomping around on a chess board is actually a genius analogy
For balance not mattering at most levels of play?
@@klarthkoken1925 for how anyone in GM picture most levels of play and for how balance doesnt matter in that context
when you're an olympic athlete, you kinda see how invalid are arguments made against a sport, when they're made by high school players...
Its like listening to your kid say how much his life sucks and hasn't even begun working and acquiring debt..etc
anyway, yeah.. pretty funny and cool turtle analogy
@@netghosta
Arguments may be flawed, but sc2 isnt just an esport. Its also a video game. I suppose most of these complaints could be restated as "X is excessively furstrating to play against"
@@sweetmarshmallow7146 absolutely right ab that.. but I gotta also confess that it is hard for me to see SC2 as just a video game, although it is! can't argue that!
I think it is so compelling that it drives most of our competitive nature.. and sometimes we get caught up into it that we refuse to see/accept that we're not as good as we wish we were.. and end up blaming the game or strats or players or hacks...
but yeah, absolutely with you.. we should own our frustrations! not the other way around.. plus, it allows other people to relate and bond.. instead of cursing and harassing..
in the end IT IS just a game..
29:40 friendship ended with turret.
Now depot is my best friend
Haha, that was my thought there too
As a fellow wood leaguer, I tell exactly what happened with all the stim issues. First drop: he wasn't sure did stim finish so he didn't try to use it. Fights with ghosts in the composition: the mental loop of press-stim -> notice ghosts are selected -> press tab -> press stim takes legit 2 seconds. That's why army doesn't move and multiple storms hit. Once storms hit, panic sets in and furious move-commanding ensues. Also, once panic has hit, stuff like spreading becomes impossible because your mind already shut down. And once mind has shut down, the rage sets in. Yup, been there. So. Many. Times.
At least you're honest about it :)
Stimmed marines are the fastest unit in the game dood. Move commanding without stim is essencially suicide.
If EmL did not make ghosts, he probably would have won.
In the 4v4:
Toss: I’ll be going airtoss obv
Zerg: RUSH RUSH RUSH
other toss: I’ll cannon rush to help Zerg
Me, as Terran: 🎵tank and turret🎵
I love how he keeps scanning for DTs on top of turrets.
Well, maybe the turrets were to busy looking for the cats.... You know, those birds need some protection, don't they?
Hahaha, YES. This was my favourite part that Harstem didn't commentate on. Does he know that scans don't do damage? They can't save your orbital from DTs. :P
"Dear Harstem" - best words to hear every Thursday
I'm here to stan for hamster and thats it
Harstem's great content is just a bonus
me too, im also a harstan
@@Willdroyd Hamstans rise up ✊
@@fulldisclosureiamamonster2786 “Hamstan” made me laugh waaay harder Than I think you meant it to.
Ya know "Stan" is about a murderous stalker right?
@@SenseiRaichuss not really but k
"Tank and Turret, are best friends" Great, now that's stuck in my head! ;p
I'm only 2:40 in and Harstem has already used turtles playing chess to brilliantly explain a really common logical fallacy.
TEDTalk when, Captain?
Which logical fallacy?
@@DarrylGlen False competency fallacy. The misbelief that you were competent despite your failure and that you simply faced unfair odds. An easy example is when somebody gets beaten in an FPS and calls the other player a hacker. He was beaten fairly because he was less skilled, but he attributes competence only to himself by assuming that his opponent is incompetent but cheating.
EmL: I’m a bird and cats are IMBA!
The cat line had me dead!
Tbf they are, though. IMBA and cute.
I assume you suck at flying then. Or maybe the cats in your area can jump really high.
28:40 I want my man EmL to watch this part over and over, watching himself land the vikings in a last-ditch hope of doing damage to the chargelots. Just keep watching that bit my man.
"The cat's faster and he can jump!" LMAO!
3 expense reports to do. Numerous conference calls. Emails to send out. Is it Imba or do I suck drops.....Cancel all my calls, I have a priority emergency to attend to.
cognitively limited turtles playing chess needs to go on a T-shirt in the Harstem store.
With that adorable turtle stamp
I'm frequently astounded that so many IIODIS games are in Diamond. Like, where are these people when *I* play on ladder, giving me MY free wins!?
This is how you play too :D
If you do not meet them, most likeley you ARE them .... The alternative is: Matchmaking is very good, unless you deliberatly mislead it, the matchmaker will present you with with enemys that fit your Playstyle, so to meet the MDTurtles you have to be one of them ...
@@archangle2988 yeah, gotta love the good ol’ “I’m in blah blah league too and I play waaay better than that!!!”, and just causally implying that they should be ranked as grandmasters.
@@MrShitthead Still not impossible that he's right though. Maybe he's a Dune 2 veteran, who now decided to switch game, and already was quickly rising ranks, only slightly slowed down by unlucky match making. He could be the new world champion soon.
How do you think I feel? I’m bronze and I’m way better than this guy
When I watch these videos I'm always amazed at the obvious mistakes and lack of control... then I remember that I'm in a much lower league than the person submitting the video and that I must be way worse than they are at this game.
the turtle stamp is adorable. please make this a permanent declinced stamp.
19:57 great work hamster!
28:35 Every time Harstem did this I died laughing 🤣
Title is already promising haha
"And the sensor tower, but the depot is closer"
I don't know why that made me laugh so loud, but it did.
Is It Imba Or Am I A Cognitively Limited Turtle
TANK AND TURRET, ARE BEST FRIENDS
@3:00 me: -Take your hat off! That's the IMBA stamp!
IMBA because ghosts take priority over M/M and Tab button too far away.
24:31 I love how he stims right after the fight is over hahaha
Might be 10 years too late, but someone should link the terran player to Temp0's All I Do is Stim song to give him some good ideas.
Thanks for the vids Harstem. I appreciate your insightful analogies. And props to Hamster for the edits. Its easy to tell he put a lot of work in.
"If EML was a bird he'd really struggle with cats" might be Harstem's greatest line yet
In the player's defense, they asked if they sucked more than their opponent. Turtle asking if it sucked more than another turtle. That question, at least, seems valid and something you could answer. Love the vid!
Wow the Dutch guy is becoming a regular on Reynor's show
I love how stunned Harstem is whenever one of the players makes a particularly dumb move.
A terran complaining about vision?
You should start a series where you roast people and really go hard on them. Oh wait...
Oh my god I laughed so hard my sides hurt when he landed those vikings.. the look on your face. HAHAHAHA
I just love how the video editor roasts Harstem when he incorrectly criticizes the player.
This series is the BEST series of SC commentating i've seen. Keep up the good work !
best first 3 minutes ever :D the turtle chess talk made my day :D
Most popular children's show in the Netherlands: Tank and Turret are best friends!
He clearly has his Ghosts on the same hotkey as his Marines/Marauders, and doesn't realize he needs to tab in order to use stim. I can't believe this is 3.3k.
Gosh, that is wholesome! Now I understand how I no-matched my very first placement games on this beautiful RTS until the 5th where I got toned down real bad by a textbook 4k5 protoss.
I didn't think most people hadn't any clue on how wars had to be paced.
Love these tortoises' highlight content, very entertaining!
"Tanks and turrets, are best friends!"
*doo doo-doo*
13:33 probably the funniest moment to me :D
GG Cap, thanks for the great IODIS episode again!
Just burst out crying there as well
Lol that bird comment, I'm dying man. Laughed until I cried, that was the tastiest sarcasm.
One game alone will never be enough to prove imbalance. Also, absolutely everyone has room to improve and "sucks" to some degree. IODIS could be renamed "How Everyone Sucks".
what I find very unique and outstanding for this episode of IODIS is that, aside from many other SUCKy aspects of his play, the Terran actually had a pretty solid macro and unit composition and adaptation.
If not for hs terrible unit control and several illogical decisions/engagements, he actually played on the level of someone at least 1000 MMR higher.
Your turtle analogy is just awesome….. I’ve never heard better analogies in my life…… it’s been a short lonely life but so far best analogies/stories/immaturity/imagination from you dearest friend
This guys move commands are to die for
The terran here shows an impressive representation of "I will get there no matter the cost" on every offensive he ever did. His plan to attack the nexus for exemple, succeeded and failed at the same time :
The goal : Reach the Nexus with my army.(He succeeded)
What actually happened : he lost everything by trying so hard to reach his goal.
Also his army composition is akin to having a bucket of terran units and dumping it on the floor and build whatever comes out. Turns out, he had only 3 medivacs in his bucket filled with marine/marauder.
That "get there no matter the cost" mentality eh?
I wonder if EmL is Stalin reincarnated.
"Not one step backwards!" 😆
@@MrNicoJac They can't step backwards because nobody is going back haha
I realised the ghost-stim thing just a couple of seconds before Harstem while watching that fight. Hilarious.
17:15 - where the game was lost.
The Terran accidentally move-commanded instead of stutter-stepping, leading to immense army losses. Otherwise he was just killing the toss.
But wait... he was actually still with chances, until 21:12.... MY EYES !!!
I was just now watching Scarlett vs DRG's BO3 (that one where she offraced as Toss), and I just saw you jumping in excitement after Scarlett won the second match
I think it's criminal that Harstem is having this much fun
"I don't think Canada has much oil." -Harstem 2021
Top three countries with largest oil reserves as of November 2020:
Venezuela - 304 billion barrels. ...
Saudi Arabia - 298 billion barrels. ...
Canada - 170 billion barrels. ...
Shoutout to those storms honestly those templar were doing WORK
Man, a lot of these terrains complaints boil down to two things: either sheer incompetence or the lack of foresight. Terrans are getting themselves into uncomfortable positions then try to fix their mistake by overmicroing a lot of moving parts.
It's better if I ilustrate this with a Harstem Analogy:
Imagine that a Terran is playing Tennis and his opponent is about to serve to start the game. Instead of having your Racquet in hand, being crouched, already prepared for a fast ball that has a limited amount of directions in which it can bounce, and already visualizing how it is going to play out. He waits until the ball is already in his side of the court, watches where it bounces first, and then complains that it is literally impossible for him to run back to his locker where he left his Racquet, run all the way back to the court, locate the ball, get into position and then backhand with his non-dominant hand. He needs super human speed and reflexes compared to the player that has to serve and that's completely unfair.
I blame pro players for selling this mentality of having to have 600 apm to do anything, when you can just literally siege up and pre-split your army then poke with a handfull of marine/marauders in less than 4 seconds and literally just win
Pros have never advised that you should have high APM - pros do need it but ladder players don't. In fact all pros like Harstem and GM coaches have said you should *never* focus on high APM but instead learn a freaking build order.
This was a masterpiece, I couldn't stop laughing, I had to rewind so I could actually learn something.
much love to the comedy, and Hamster's really adding to the entertainment value and intellectual with actual research.
I appreciate the explanation of why something such as a position is bad.
Best SC2 content on TH-cam. I can't get enough of this stuff.
typo in the info popup at 27:44 - of should be if
awesome video btw.
Very informational and funny!
Turtles playing Chess.. Coming soon on ESPN the Ocho.
That's a bold strategy Cotton
Spellcasters on a different hotkey or stick with a comp and tab to the right unit. This guy is probably better than me, so I have to assume he doesn't notice he doesn't stim when he owns Ghosts. He just looks back and thinks it wore off already which is why when he *does* stim, he does it every 5 seconds. I can only imagine this is why he doesn't build a Raven to kill the imba Observers. His Ghosts would suddenly stop working.
This is the most arrogant and funny SC analogy ever. Love it :D
You make my day every time you upload. You’re hilarious! Keep being you man.
This might be the best first 3 minutes of a starcraft video that I've ever seen. Absolutely amazing lmao
Props for the editor for crating two stamps that had a screentime of 10 seconds. Would watch again for the turtle stamp alone. 33:33
I think you invented a new type of stand up comedy :)) so much fun … better than a “friends show” - mentally slow turtles - epicc
I smashed like as soon as I saw the Imba stamp. its beautiful
I love how much fun he has creating the analogies
Friendship ended with turret, depot is tanks new nest friend.
@14:10 "Why do you want to go to war with Canada? There is nothing of use that you can get there. I don't think Canada has much oil."
I love the popups and all the infos and all amazing.
13:28 Those medivacs knew what was coming and decided not to get involved in that fight.
I actually had to pause within like 30 seconds to vent to myself. The submitter lost to Zealots (ground melee), Colossus (ground+air anti-ground), High Templar (ground splash caster), and Dark Templar (ground stealth melee).
There’s this wonderful unit called a Banshee that is actually almost invulnerable against that composition, while also having enough mobility to avoid the caster effects. :) And you can even mix in these other units called a Raven and a Viking to safely find those pesky map hacking robots and assassins.
The impa stan XDDDDD
*heroic music plays*
I'd like to request a full OST for "Tank and the Turret"
When I saw the medivacs not healing the army that was being stormed i died.
This type of videos make me hopeful of reaching higher leagues someday.
Good marco can get you far in SC2.
@@jtsyo8364 I just died to 26 lings through a nydus @ 5 min so good macro can't always get you wins but yeah, I agree it does get you further than stupid cheese ever will
@@alexsavastru8125 Good routine for scouting, not getting supply blocked, and spending your money to stay below 300/300 will get you to masters, fellow zerg companion ♥
LOL "cut off his finger with the pineapple slicer..." yup, that's him!
We need a meme with the 21:14 sound please... also 28:36 for reference...
Love the new title "Is It Imba or Am I a Turtle" :)) - probably would get even more views
does any1 have a link to this "imba-confirmed" video mentioned in the beginning ?
Protoss Mass AIR unbeatable!? | IODIS
Was planning to visit my grandfather's grave in Groesbeek War Cemetery. Would love to grab a pint with Harestem when I do!
That turtle metaphor was brutal and hilarious and also true
Anti-Stim because of Ghosts whilst F2ing. We all have been there. ❤️
3 minutes in and Im ready to watch HOURS more of this. Another brilliant analogy.
Saying "map hacks" while having scans and sensor towers XD
EmL is a case study of the long-term psychological effects of being constantly in a state of panic.
27:48 Thanks Hamster, that could be really helpful
Canada has a ton of oil, nuclear fuel, rare metals and about 10% of the worlds renewable water
Looks like winner submitted the replay.
I think that's the standard now. Just bragging, people are cringe.
The BO looks like a ViBE B2GM one for bio. It is ok if you suck at micro (like I do) and you want to just try to outmacro your opponent. And the drops are glorified scouts in that scenario. It is good to get macro skills, but as you advance in leagues you need more micro of course. But that doesn´t mean you can´t suck while using it. :P
Harstem IIIODIS is the best series / content for starcraft ever :D your commentary is just pure Gold !
A super insightful moment in this game happens at 21:05 video time that really shows the difference between a pro player and a regular Joe. P has just lost 2 colossus for free a few moments earlier. That's obviously bad. But it wasn't super bad, because the rest of the army was not immediately at risk as a result of losing them. The real fight was still a few seconds away.
At 21:05 Harstem gets a lot more interested when watching that flank coming in. That's his focus. Meanwhile, T is focusing on taking out the base. Harstem notes the flank coming several times, reinforcing where the focus should really be. A moment later we see why, and here's the key point: Harstem reacts with a desperate groan *before* the storms are cast. Before! Because of his experience, he knows what's about to happen. And unlike the loss of the colossus, this *is* a critical moment, because the whole terran army is put in danger because of the way it moves, and indeed the whole terran army gets wiped out by the combined splash damage of the colossus on the high ground (now lasering with absolute impunity because the tanks were left undefended) and the psi storm that the terrain practically begged to be cast.
Notably, Harstem wasn't saying "this is a bad attack, strategically". No, the attack could have been fine. The problem was the specific micro in response to the specific situation. The rush of blood to kill a base, the loss of situational awareness.
My intention here is not to say "the Joe should have seen this coming the way Harstem did". No, Harstem is a pro player with orders of magnitude more experience. I just think it's a perfect example of just how much more is going on in the mind of a pro player.
It's actually a classic diamond/platinum Terran move in TvP. HA! FREE BASE! NEED TO KILL!!! And usually they trade an army for a base. One time I asked a Terran what did he trade the army for. The answer was - don't know. I am shocked by this, because this was a thing in WoL, HotS and still is 10 years later in LotV. Same with drops, they trade the drop for low damage.
Like this replay had it all - sacrificial useless late drop. Had he returned with few killed probes, it would be a good damage. But nah, let's sacrifice the drop into the main because reasons! :)
hehe harstem says hope its not suck awhile he is smiling and then i skip to the end SUCK!!!!!! XD am like deying of loughter
As a Dia Terran I simpathize with the struggle to stim. Ghosts have a higher selection priority than Bio. You might forget that and be wondering why your stim hotkey is broken in a fight
Only if your keyboard is broken.
Getting a new Tab key is not rocket science....
@@MrNicoJac wow big brain here
another great episode love it cap
The raven is the worst unit in the game because it makes me place turrets instead of stimming.
The BC is the worst unit in the game because it makes me tactical jump instead of stimming.