Awesome video and explanation. So it’s common to track the 987.1 in spite of those weaknesses you mentioned? I ask, Because I’m shopping this exact model, and some people would have you think they’re not “trackable”.
I think something is wrong with your door-lock. You are supposed to be able to unlock it with the key. Also the only thing sport mode changes on a manual is the mapping of the drive-by-wire accelerator pedal, it just makes it sharper and more aggressive.
Yeah I came across a forum saying I have to open up the door card and there is a plastic shaft that comes loose and no longer engages the inner latch. Luckily I keep it in the garage with the windows down and I live in an area where I can keep the windows down when I part so Im not too worried about it for now.
I also have a 987.1 cayman s and also attend the local tracks where you are in norcal, what were your experiences with aos or oil starvation issues on track. Im on edge to take it to sonoma or laguna but just dont want to worry about blowing up the car lol (id be running 200tw tires and an overall stock car)
@@akihori I’m in the Monterey area so Laguna Seca is literally a few minutes drive! For oil starvation I went with the LN Engineering 2 Qt Deep Sump Kit with updated baffle paired with an oil pressure gauge to watch while on hard turns. As far as AOS, the motor will start to lose oil with no leaks and the first thing I try is my AOS, have had to replace just once so far from 5 track days. I highly recommend the deep sump kit + baffle, real easy install but the oil changes will cost more from then on.
What kind of oil do you run on track and do you monitor your oil temps? And what are your oil change intervals when involving track driving? Great video but don’t forget connecting rod bolts. They are a weak link on these M9X motors. Frequent redlining will weaken them over time and bouncing off the rev limiter will accelerate their potential to fail.
I run 5W40 Liqui Moly Oil, its been doing just fine so far (fingers crossed) and I don't monitor oil temps. On track days I change my oil for every one or two track days depending on how close they are together. Appreciate the support man and clean car I like the wheels.
@@brianbirkinbine2054 I ended up going with the LN Engineering 2 qt deep sump kit with updated baffle. Really easy to install and I paired it with an oil pressure gauge to make sure my pressures don’t tank while I’m pushing the motor.
I own a 2010 987.2 gen 2 Cayman S and the oil level is checked when it is up to full operation temperature only, I can actually check the oil level whilst going down the highway. They changed the engines (MA1/9a1) and DME manufacturer, Siemens Continental, in the S models with direct injection. The Bose stereo system is an optional audio entertainment system. Would like to know, as others would also, about your added gages.
@@warrenlucier5796 hey! dang another reason why the gen 2s are cooler lmao I didn’t know they changed it for you guys. The left gauge is an oil pressure gauge connected to the oil pressure switch by drilling a wire from the center console rear rubber firewall and hard wiring it with a fuse tap from the interior fuse box. The right gauge is a obd2 connector so I can see stuff like water temperature (cayman s physical gauge shows it’s at 175 even though it’s actually 195) battery voltage, and it has a shift light feature. Here are the vids I used for oil pressure gauge: th-cam.com/video/Yjx2aIpxsBQ/w-d-xo.html th-cam.com/video/1uAKUhFOxdQ/w-d-xo.html
I'm looking to buy a Cayman s I'd assume yours is the 2007 because that was the last year for hydraulics, or do you have an older one ? Also when you bought it what did you pay for it and how many miles did it have on it ?
Yes sir 2007!, I paid $33k before taxes $36 after taxes for mine because it was the exact spec that I wanted with the sports chrono package and being Guards Red, it had 72,000 miles at the time. Definitely do a pre purchase inspection though!
I love when people post videos and know nothing about the car and give bad info. Do your own homework before misleading people. The Sport button only changes the throttle response with a sportier throttle map. It does not do anything to the suspension stiffening. You would need PASM suspension that has adjustable shocks. Thus having the additional PASM button which you do not have. The key should unlock the door. You must have an issue. The jack points are like most all cars. Look at a BMW. It is not a detuned 911 motor. It is a smaller motor at 3.4 L vs the 3.6 and 3.8 L in a 911. It is not a tuner car. You are not getting 400 HP out of a normally aspirated engine. The only way is with a turbo kit which is big money. I appreciate you are doing your thing and trying to learn. But do your homework. There are other things in the video that are also wrong.
Appreciate the constructive criticism but there are a few points that I disagree on. Firstly to my knowledge, the 996 911 (300hp) and the 987 Cayman (295hp) both use a 3.4l M97 engine, I was not talking about 997 and above gens I should have been more clear, but my point stands it is a detuned variant. Secondly on the jack points, I've had only japanese and american cars so the underpanel running along the whole side of the car was a suprise, usually I can stick a jack anywhere on the metal underside and it would be a valid jack point. Third, I was mentioning you can get 400 hp with a turbo kit like you mentioned, I said the same thing. My car is tuned to ~350 hp with an exhaust, gt3 throttlebody / plenum, aftermarket intake, 91 octane tune, the most out of the stock motor NA would be 370hp if you also got headers and a smaller pulley. You can absolutely get 400 hp naturally aspirated from a 987 cayman they make a 4.0L Conversion kit, expensive but the point stands that its still NA. All the aftermarket support such as these is why I mention that it can be a tuner car. You are right about the sports button, and the key I have no idea I have no idea it's never worked for me but you are right on that as well.
The 2007 and up Caymans and Boxers aren't half bad. If you get the cheaper non S variants with smaller more reliable engines variants you can have a nice weekend cruiser, though they wont be as fun. Most of the error people make is not inspecting the car for a failing engine before they buy it so just do research on the common engine failures and look for its symptoms when buying.
Awesome video and explanation. So it’s common to track the 987.1 in spite of those weaknesses you mentioned? I ask, Because I’m shopping this exact model, and some people would have you think they’re not “trackable”.
Absolutely agree. That is why I have five since 2008! 😊 I also have a 2015 Carrera but I drive the Cayman S more often!
Yes sir! It works great as a daily driver for sure.
I think something is wrong with your door-lock. You are supposed to be able to unlock it with the key.
Also the only thing sport mode changes on a manual is the mapping of the drive-by-wire accelerator pedal, it just makes it sharper and more aggressive.
Yeah I came across a forum saying I have to open up the door card and there is a plastic shaft that comes loose and no longer engages the inner latch. Luckily I keep it in the garage with the windows down and I live in an area where I can keep the windows down when I part so Im not too worried about it for now.
I also have a 987.1 cayman s and also attend the local tracks where you are in norcal, what were your experiences with aos or oil starvation issues on track. Im on edge to take it to sonoma or laguna but just dont want to worry about blowing up the car lol (id be running 200tw tires and an overall stock car)
@@akihori I’m in the Monterey area so Laguna Seca is literally a few minutes drive! For oil starvation I went with the LN Engineering 2 Qt Deep Sump Kit with updated baffle paired with an oil pressure gauge to watch while on hard turns. As far as AOS, the motor will start to lose oil with no leaks and the first thing I try is my AOS, have had to replace just once so far from 5 track days. I highly recommend the deep sump kit + baffle, real easy install but the oil changes will cost more from then on.
What kind of oil do you run on track and do you monitor your oil temps? And what are your oil change intervals when involving track driving?
Great video but don’t forget connecting rod bolts. They are a weak link on these M9X motors. Frequent redlining will weaken them over time and bouncing off the rev limiter will accelerate their potential to fail.
I run 5W40 Liqui Moly Oil, its been doing just fine so far (fingers crossed) and I don't monitor oil temps. On track days I change my oil for every one or two track days depending on how close they are together. Appreciate the support man and clean car I like the wheels.
Beautiful car, what did you do to help with oiling issues? I have a 987.1 CS with stock oil pan, curious what is out there for occasional track use.
@@brianbirkinbine2054 I ended up going with the LN Engineering 2 qt deep sump kit with updated baffle. Really easy to install and I paired it with an oil pressure gauge to make sure my pressures don’t tank while I’m pushing the motor.
I own a 2010 987.2 gen 2 Cayman S and the oil level is checked when it is up to full operation temperature only, I can actually check the oil level whilst going down the highway. They changed the engines (MA1/9a1) and DME manufacturer, Siemens Continental, in the S models with direct injection. The Bose stereo system is an optional audio entertainment system. Would like to know, as others would also, about your added gages.
@@warrenlucier5796 hey! dang another reason why the gen 2s are cooler lmao I didn’t know they changed it for you guys. The left gauge is an oil pressure gauge connected to the oil pressure switch by drilling a wire from the center console rear rubber firewall and hard wiring it with a fuse tap from the interior fuse box. The right gauge is a obd2 connector so I can see stuff like water temperature (cayman s physical gauge shows it’s at 175 even though it’s actually 195) battery voltage, and it has a shift light feature.
Here are the vids I used for oil pressure gauge:
th-cam.com/video/Yjx2aIpxsBQ/w-d-xo.html
th-cam.com/video/1uAKUhFOxdQ/w-d-xo.html
@@NukoMotorsports Thank you for the links on the gages.
This is wrong, you can only check the oil level when idling.
Lovely ,I have an arctic silver 2.7
Great cars
@@75ocs yes sir, they have such a great feel to them
I'm looking to buy a Cayman s I'd assume yours is the 2007 because that was the last year for hydraulics, or do you have an older one ? Also when you bought it what did you pay for it and how many miles did it have on it ?
Yes sir 2007!, I paid $33k before taxes $36 after taxes for mine because it was the exact spec that I wanted with the sports chrono package and being Guards Red, it had 72,000 miles at the time. Definitely do a pre purchase inspection though!
Have you had any issues with bore scoring and the ims bearing?
So far no I try to do a lot of preventative maintenance like using thicker oil or fuel additives but ultimately its up to the car.
I love when people post videos and know nothing about the car and give bad info. Do your own homework before misleading people. The Sport button only changes the throttle response with a sportier throttle map. It does not do anything to the suspension stiffening. You would need PASM suspension that has adjustable shocks. Thus having the additional PASM button which you do not have. The key should unlock the door. You must have an issue. The jack points are like most all cars. Look at a BMW. It is not a detuned 911 motor. It is a smaller motor at 3.4 L vs the 3.6 and 3.8 L in a 911. It is not a tuner car. You are not getting 400 HP out of a normally aspirated engine. The only way is with a turbo kit which is big money. I appreciate you are doing your thing and trying to learn. But do your homework. There are other things in the video that are also wrong.
Appreciate the constructive criticism but there are a few points that I disagree on. Firstly to my knowledge, the 996 911 (300hp) and the 987 Cayman (295hp) both use a 3.4l M97 engine, I was not talking about 997 and above gens I should have been more clear, but my point stands it is a detuned variant. Secondly on the jack points, I've had only japanese and american cars so the underpanel running along the whole side of the car was a suprise, usually I can stick a jack anywhere on the metal underside and it would be a valid jack point. Third, I was mentioning you can get 400 hp with a turbo kit like you mentioned, I said the same thing. My car is tuned to ~350 hp with an exhaust, gt3 throttlebody / plenum, aftermarket intake, 91 octane tune, the most out of the stock motor NA would be 370hp if you also got headers and a smaller pulley. You can absolutely get 400 hp naturally aspirated from a 987 cayman they make a 4.0L Conversion kit, expensive but the point stands that its still NA. All the aftermarket support such as these is why I mention that it can be a tuner car. You are right about the sports button, and the key I have no idea I have no idea it's never worked for me but you are right on that as well.
I want a reliable Porsche under 30k any suggestions
No such thing. Any Porsche that costs under $30k, don’t buy it unless you can afford it twice.
The 2007 and up Caymans and Boxers aren't half bad. If you get the cheaper non S variants with smaller more reliable engines variants you can have a nice weekend cruiser, though they wont be as fun. Most of the error people make is not inspecting the car for a failing engine before they buy it so just do research on the common engine failures and look for its symptoms when buying.