Porsche 987 Cayman... A Guide Of The Common Issues To Look For When In The Market for a 987!!
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- Porsche 987 Cayman... A Guide Of The Common Issues To Look For When In The Market for a 987!! A little over a year ago I released the 986 Boxster video covering some of the issues you may find on that generation Boxster.. turns out that video was pretty popular so I decided to create a similar video this time covering the 987 Cayman. It turns out some the very same issues that plagued the 986 also affect the 987 as well but with some differences. In this video I go review a brief history of Porsche building mid-engine sports cars and what makes the initial release of the 987 Cayman so special! I then cover what are some of the common issues you may find on these models covering, IMS, RMS, Cylinder scoring and much more! Regardless of some of these issues I highly recommend the 987 Cayman as this vehicle is a lot of bang for your buck. I briefly cover what you should be able to pick up one of these cars for! I hope you guys enjoy this video... if there are any other issues that you have found on the 987 Cayman please leave them down in the comments below as this guide is pretty extensive but am sure I am missing some items! Thanks for the support and watching.. see you in the next one!
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The fact you can get a 987 base or S model for around 25k with some miles is amazing, great video!
Still have my Porsche Cayman 987.1 base 2.7 Liter from 2008 150.000 miles on the clock and still running great most important is regular services no rust painting like new all leather interior option painting color grey.
The base engines are the best of the crop and also have a better sound then the S version !
15 years old and the best designed Porsche they ever made !
Just a quick tip. I bought an 8 year old Boxster S and the water pump started to fail. My car had 11,000 miles on it so it definitely is a time component. When it starts to leak, it'll leak on the belt which makes you think you have a slipping belt because of the noise. The water pump can be purchased from the company that supplies Porsche. DO NOT BUY A PORSCHE WATER PUMP. I examined the used and new parts and they are exactly the same. Total WP replacement for me cost $600 parts and labor. Last thing. I bought a new thermostat to have installed with the water pump and pro mechanic says don't touch thermostat if it's working.
Thanks for your tip Michael it is greatly appreciated it! 👍🏼 Where do you typically get your parts? FCP Euro and Pelican Parts tend to be excellent resources!
Whats the company that supplies the water pumps?
Porsche water pumps have plastic impellers and won't last long. Aftermarket water pumps with steel impellers are much better and more durable!
Great video, my 987.1 has had all of these problems except the water pump. I also needed to replace the starter because it was having that wheezing issue. I fixed everything on my Porsche from the air oil separator to plugs and coils, shifter cables (upgraded to the Numeric cables, they are great) starter and climate control buttons myself in my garage. The car is very easy to work on and nothing was very expensive. (OK, maybe the fancy racing cables were a bit pricey)
For a 16 year old car it is amazingly reliable, super well made and brilliantly engineered. Of course it also drives and handles like a perfectly balanced piece of German art.
If people think these small issues make the car sound bad, you may have never owned an older car before, these problems are nothing :)
Considering you’re talking about a car that’s 15 years old potentiality those issues don’t seem horrible. Plus most people don’t keep their cars that long so I imagine all the expense to fix them will be with different owners so no biggie. Seems like a good option for someone’s first Porsche.😃 Very detailed as always. Thanks
Very true! For a lot of these issues as long you maintenance the car regularly and keep up on any issues that arise you will be all good! Thank you 😊
and none of those issues cost nearly as much as mentioned if you have 2 hands and some tools.
Yes it seems like a good call for someone's first Porsche to be a money pit don't never get to enjoy it they will hate Porsche forever once they buy one and it needs all that work.
They will be putting more money in it than what it's worth the pointless car after 10 years just fucking donated
Mason, spark plug tubes were phased out with the 5-chain M96 engines. They were replace on the M97 3-chain engines with green rubber o-rings. The o-rings seal between lifter carrier and camshaft cover.
The 2.7 base model is a helluva lotta fun. And more reliable.
🥰
I love my 2008 base. Don't think I need another gear or bigger brakes.
Very true
I’ve got a s model 2007 been superb
I’m an ex Porsche technician, the 2.7 is a great engine, more reliable than the 3.4, does not suffer from bore scoring. All Caymans suffer from the air/oil separator and cracked coolant expansion reservoirs, together with water pumps
This was the most helpful video ever, this is exactly what i was looking for.
Fantastic! Glad it was helpful! ☺️
hello mr. mason, firstly, i would like to thank you on all the amazing porsche content on your youtube channel, secondly i would like to see you make a review on the 992 911 GT3 with Touring package.
thank you.
I have a 2010 Cayman S PDK. I bought it new and it has been my daily driver for 13 years. It is currently at 131,000 miles. It has been pretty reliable. In all that time I have had the following issues:
1. Oxygen sensor failure (fixed under warranty)
2. Belt tensioner came off when retaining bolt sheared off block (fixed under warranty, dealer had never seen this failure before)
3. CV joints
4. Upper front strut mounts
5. PDK mount/bushing
6. Rear engine mounts
7. Very slow leak from power steering rack
8. Headliner came down and had to be replaced
Basically, after more than a decade in the Texas heat, many rubber items (mounts, CV, bushings) have needed to be replaced.
Have an audi tt mk2 for 100k miles, the window regulator went and a minor DIY fix on an indicator light, otherwise nothing.
These porsches scare me
@@Jay-xr3sb Audi guy scared of Porsche? Audi is no slouch in the maintenance and rolling grenade dept.
@@autonomousindividual7780 I bought a 981 boxster S in Jan, Low mileage, fully loaded with an extended prosche warranty. The engine mount(s) have already gone and the warranty will deal with it. Otherwise £2k a pair.
This was almost certain to happen, a common fault with no recall issued, to be replaced with a defect new part.
Great car though
Fantastic video! I'm looking to get my first Porsche and it will be a Cayman. This vid and reading through the comments has settled my nerves, and addressed my concerns! Looks like I'll gi with the base model with either the .1 or .2. Thanks again!
Lots of helpful information! The car looks brand new! A day in Seattle without rain?? Huh? Great video!
I know isn't it weird?! Such a beautiful day!
The 987.1 base non-S also came with a six-speed manual 'box. It's a super rare option but they're out there!
Yes they are! Have hardly seen any! Thanks Mark 👍🏼
The 5-speed was more reliable.
@@adamgoodman5887 facts
Currently in the market for a 987, this overview of things to watch for it invaluable. Will definitely be making a list of what you said and getting a PPI for the car I'm eyeing.
Awesome glad it was helpful! Let me know if you have any questions along the way
Great video. Very informative 👍🏻
I am looking at a few 987s, and will definitely buy one before the end of this year. This video is so informative and useful.
Fantastic! Glad you enjoyed it 👍🏼
Not likely. Prices are waaay up.
@@Pcarwhisperer I agree. I'm currently buying a Cayman S which is my dream car. This video definitely convinced me to move on... and will help me for the final inspection I will make with the seller. Thank U dude.
hey Wil, did you buy?
@@zactastic4life classic internet bullshitting
The base car definitely isn’t underpowered. In many cases it’s actually more fun because you can wring it out moreso than the S, especially on public roads.
👍🏼 I should have put an asterisks next to underpowered... power is all relative.. it depends what you are used too! After driving a GT3RS or 911 Turbo my "S" feels underpowered... all comes down to preference and experiences 👍🏼
@@Pcarwhisperer haha yea I figured that’s what you meant but just wanted to clarify. These cars are all great. I love that Porsche doesn’t neuter the handling of the base cars.
Facts.
As a base 986 owner coming from a miata, I confirm that.
More fun to drive a slow car fast than to drive a really fast car slow.
I would not dismiss the 2.7 - it's a more reliable engine than the S and has a decent amount of power.
Very true thanks for your input 👍🏼
I agree I own a 2008 987 2.7 and it’s plenty of power and just a real nice ride . I have no interest in tracking anything .
And get best by a Toyota Camry at a red light. These cars are way under powered in today’s car world. 2.7 should be fully dismissed unless you’re not a car guy and you just want to say you drive a old Porsche
@@DD-hj3sj I think you're missing the point of the Cayman - none of the models in the range are particularly fast. If you want acceleration buy a Tesla.
@@1530swimmer you got THAT right.
I own a 2.7 a love it. Plenty of power. Get a re map and a new exhaust if you want more power. Still better than risking the scoring issues with an S IMO. If you want an S, get a bore scope first.
You did a great job on this video. Was very informative
Thanks Roi! Appreciate the kind words and support ☺️
Great video, I’m saving for my first Porsche and would love to do the small maintenance jobs.
This guy got a lot of stuff right. What he got wrong was the fact that the base 2.7 model has far fewer issues than the S model. The 5 speed manual transmission is much more reliable and there’s far less chance of bore scoring. Oh and the 2.7 sings a very lovely song with its engine note… and of course if you daily this thing you get to rev it out a lot more often than you do with the bigger one.
Lots of great info for potential buyers! Nice video buddy!
Thanks buddy appreciate it 👍🏼
It's refreshing to hear someone who is obviously a big fan of a brand acknowledge the faults of a car. Great job!
Thank you Mike 🙏🏼
Great video, great information on what to look at when buying a used porsche!!!! Thanks!!!! Sadly, I guess buying new, or a CPO porsche is the best way to avoid the pitfalls of buying used.
Good video! I have a 987.2
Added grille guards to protect radiator (DIY - gutter guard at Home Depot). Fun taking off bumper!
Replaced front hood struts, drive door switch, shift cables broke - now have Numeric! Video covers a good range of items! Liked it!
Thanks Brian! Thats perfect solution 👍🏼 Thanks for your input!
Grill guards really help, I bought the zunsport for the side vents and my fronts from radiator grill store. If anyone wants brand new in the box pair side vent guards from radiator grill store let me know
@@Bangah674 it was fun I had the whole bumper in my living room. Used cardboard to cut out the area needed and the used wire cutters to the outline on the gutter guard. Used black zip ties and done! 😁 found another TH-cam that did this!
@@ThatCaymanGuy I do.
Hi Mason one more issue that may crop up , it did with my S .
The cross over coolant pipes at the front tend to rust and leak , i also had as well as the gear change cables , the numeric shifter box….. great fun.
Great video for someone in the market for a 987.
Thank you for the insight Steve! Greatly appreciate all the help! 😊
GREAT VIDEO! The most informative video I'v ever seen!
Thank you! 🙏🏼 Glad it was helpful!
@@Pcarwhisperer Your welcome! And yes it was helpful, so much so that it convinced me to look for a 2009 Cayman S 😀 instead of another Boxster S. 👍
Great video...very informative!
Great to hear! Thank you 😊
These are great cars . I own a 2.7 , 2008 987 . I love it ! Every car has some issues . I haven’t had any issues with mine . I do the maintenance on a regular basis . I can do it myself but I do have an Indy shop do most of it just because I like when they check the whole car over every time and give it a clean bill of health :)
Awesome! Manual or automatic! Glad to hear you haven't had much in terms of issues! Goes to show you if you take care of the car it will definitely take care of you in return! May sound but strange but I like to think of cars almost like people ... treat them like you would like to be treated they will take care of you! Sounds like you are definitely doing this 👍🏼 Thanks for sharing your input!
@@Pcarwhisperer it’s a Automatic for 3 reasons lol. 1) I drove a standard for years and am tired of shifting lol 2) I didn’t want the expense of having to put new clutches in and lastly my wife doesn’t drive standard and I wanted her to be able to use the car too .
When I got the car I planned on putting about $2500 into it for transmission flush , brake fluid flush , serpentine belt , replaced AOS based off when I read and the miles on it , oil change plus the interior drivers door pull was not working correctly.
Before I bought it I never could understand why people would pay what they do for a Porsche . Now I see . So much I went out and bought a Cayenne the year after and I’m hooked lol
Thanks for your effort. Great channel
Thank you 🙏🏼 You're welcome 😊
Actually looking to buy a 987 right now. This video was super helpful. Thank you!
Fantastic! Glad it was helpful 😊
Very informative. Thanks!
Fantastic! Glad it was helpful!
Thanks for sharing!
You're welcome! Thanks for the support!
My low-milage 987 Cayman S was always in the shop with minor engine trouble. Needed a new flywheel at one point. Finally needed a new engine and I sold it for $8k. Lovely to drive when it was running right, but that was not often.
Had a 2006 Cayman S and became frustrated by the interior failings that Porsche refused to cover. In the interiors that are camel colored, the color was applied via a soft touch technique. Within 3 years the paint easily peeled off. The only fix was to remove all interior pieces and have them repainted. Porsche acknowledged the problem but refused to warranty. Mechanically the car was terrific.
Thanks for your input Dennis! Yes definitely an issue with these cars with the interior bits 👍🏼
Great video! Glad it popped up. I’m actually interested in a Porsche Cayman or Cayman S! Wondering the best place to find one for sale. I’m in Northern California (Bay Area).
Nice job Mason~ Good information!
Thank you!
I’m saving up to buy my first 1 it’s been my dream to own one and I will be buying. Thanks for the video I learn so much I just subscribed
So happy to hear! You're welcome! So glad it was helpful
Seriously thinking about getting one of these very soon. Never owned a Porsche and I'm no speed demon, so I think I'll opt for a base model starting out
That's intelligent thinking and you will not have the bore scoring issues that the S models can have. IMS bearing is a paranoia that carries over from the 90s Porsches. I owned a 2007 Cayman Base and drove it for 3 years. It had a "repaired" headliner and the door handle issue he mentioned. When I got it, it had 64k, and I paid $18.5k. I used it as a daily driver. Air/Oil separator did go out, and changed the brake pads during my ownership. Less than 2k in maintenance costs. For a Porsche, this is normal, and even perhaps below average. I sold it for $17k with 86k, and now a vehicle in this condition would command north of $24k. It was a dream come true, and I still wish I had it. difference in power is negligible. The S models top speed is 174 mph vs Base model top out 162 mph. The Base model weighs a little less, so it may actually handle a bit better. I never felt underpowered, and it was a pure joy.
Great video. Thank you
Perfect video. Everything said is accurate. Every single word. Wish I still had mine. You see one in decent mechanical condition; don't think, just pull the trigger.
Thank you for the kind words Richard! 🙏🏼 Agreed!
Very Helpful Video
Thanks
You're welcome! Nice to hear it was helpful!
How many of these issues were corrected with the 987.2?
Very good and helpful content.
Thank you Seauin! 👍🏼
@@Pcarwhisperer Forgot to mention I put Porsche pars spacers on the rear tires and it made a noticeable improvement in the traction and handing in tight corners.
Great video! I’m presently looking into a 2010 Cayman S with PDK. It will be my first Porsche. Thanks
Thanks Mike! Awesome! Let me know if you need any help! Congrats on the upcoming 987.2!
A BEAUTIFUL VEHICLE. Love the color. GREAT LINES . Love it .
Agreed Sharon! The lines are beautiful and smooth 😊
Very useful, thanks man
You're welcome Mayyar! 👍🏼
I'm hoping against hope to make a Cayman my first ever Porsche in the near future
Awesome love it!! 😊
Great info, Thanks!
You're welcome 👍🏼
great video and nice car. I cant believe you have been making videos for over a year now. Do you use a battery tender when not driving the car? I am trying to figure out a better way to hook up my tender then having to pull the plastic piece off the battery, in the frunk, and hook up tender. It is a PITA to pop the plastic on and off all the time
Thanks Brad! I know crazy right! Time flies! Yes I do have a battery tender on my car and it is similar to what you have where it is connected to the battery but has an easy disconnect where I can leave the terminals plugged in just undo the cable! Something like this www.amazon.com/Battery-Tender-021-0123-Junior-Charger/dp/B01L0HTX72?ref_=ast_sto_dp&th=1
I use a trickle charger plugged into the cigarette lighter and just have the wire run out under the door with no issue . I’ve used it that way for years .
Hey, I've found with the gummy radio knobs,,, I used a alcohol hand wipe which turned my sticky brown radio knobs totally like brand new!
Great trick Buzz! Thank you for sharing 👍🏼
I knew about all of these issues and I went and bought one anyway.
Great! Same here! Such a fun car! What year is your car?!
@@Pcarwhisperer 2006 CS, it's great, reliable, I do my own maintenance,. I just ordered parts for my next oil change. The only thing that was starting to go was the water pump and I had the belts and hoses replaced. It's an excellent well composed reliable car and now I only want to own Porsches because they are such rock solid vehicles.
@@ThatCaymanGuy Thats great! Have you always worked on your own cars! It definitely pays to have this skill set! I don't blame you... they are such amazing vehicles... no other vehicle gives you the feeling on the planet in my opinion 👍🏼
@@Pcarwhisperer not since I was in my 20's I wrenched on cars. I'm by no means a mechanic and I found a great German car mechanic in my area for all the stuff I can't do.
Hi Mason I'm in the market for a 987.1s or a 987.2 and your video is super helpful! Assuming budget allows, are there any options for these cars that you would not buy one without it? Thanks!
Hi Marshall! Thank you so much! Glad the video was helpful! I apologize for the delayed response. That is a great question...funny enough I probably wouldn't buy one that didn't have Xenon lights lol seems very trivial but something that I really like!
Another great video
Thank you 😊
Great video. Replaced a fog lamp. 3months the other one burned out. So replace them both at the same time. Heat seaters not working next trouble shoot job any suggestions great.
Hey Chris! Thank you 🙏🏼 Awesome. I would recommend checking the fuse first. If that isn't it I would then try to check the wiring 👍🏼
Based on direct experience from companies like LN Engineering, Flat 6 Innovations, and Hartech, the failure rate with the M97 or 6305 IMS bearing on 987 cars is more like
Great thank you 👍🏼
I agree. A lot of misconceptions about this issue and some people making a lot of money off this supposed issues with IMS on the Cayman. It is however an issue with the 986 Boxsters and 997`s in some cases. The big possible issue with the 987 S Gen 1 is bore scoring, usually on Cylinder 6. I currently own a 2006 S model going on 3 years with 75k miles and have had zero issues to date.
The best way to evaluate the health of a AOS is by using a manometer to test crankcase vacuum level. Going by the puff of smoke or other method is not conclusive. For example, a puff of smoke could be a byproduct of cold start enrichment.
Thanks for the input! Although this is the best way most people are not technicians that have a manometer to test vacuum. I am speaking to people interested in a 987 or have one and notice a puff smoke giving them an idea of what I might be. But of course will need to have it diagnosed 👍🏼
@@Pcarwhisperer Any blue smoke can spell trouble, though it can be a slow burner problem. And then it becomes a big issue when you have to get your emissions tested every year.
I sold my 996 Carrera 4 cabrio even after an IMS solution because the fear of engine failure made me uneasy. But here I am watching Cayman videos . Definitely hard to replace the Porsche driving experience with something else but the potential engine issues can’t be taken lightly.
😊 Right with you there! Can be a a little nerve racking... but just as you say the driving experience is the ultimate!
My understanding is that the 996 IMS is much more likely to pop if the car is not driven regularly. When they sit and all the fluids settle out, that’s when they’re in extra danger of going.
Nice job, but you really should have mentioned that a small amount of smoke on startup is normal for any flat-6 Porsche.
The 2.7 is the most reliable and has decent power and sings it’s a little song up the rev range.
🥰 Thanks for your input John 🙏🏼
My 2006 manual (allmost a 150k MIles on the odometer) is in the shop right now - again... But I don't care! It's simply too much fun and worth every Penny!
If you want to have real fun. If you want to drive a performance car that puts an everlasting smile on your face, you must not care about the costs of keeping it on the road and/or in roadworthy condition. It will cost you - dearly.
But whenever you fire up that flat six and you take her out on a winding road, you'll know that it was worth it.
I've had 60+ cars in the past. I've been owning/drivoing more than half a dozen Porsches in the past.
The 987 Cayman S is a true keeper. It's expensive, but it's as much fun as a Ferrari 360 for a fraction of the cost.
How much is it worth 150k miles in your opinion?
Have the same car in cobalt blue here in Ireland. Absolutely fabulous to drive. My friend has a ferrari 430 which can't match it!
@@yassini2567 It depends on the market situation in your area. In my area and with the extensive service and reapir records I have, the car would be priced in the low 30'ies if I was planning to sell it.
@@hughmcgurk9157 I never drove a ferrari 430. But the ferrari comes with an additional 185hp and two more cylinders, which certainly does make a difference. However, for the price of a 430 you could get a Cayman and a 911 (996, maybe 997), just to be on the save side.
;)
that was very interesting and helpful, thank you. it seems like you pretty much just have to get things fixed when they wear out it's not like you can check for these sorts of issues very easily. I'd say the highlight is the symptoms of a scored cylinder wall. but the ticking sound could also be caused by a bad pulley or belt.
You're welcome. Thank you for watching and feedback. That is exactly right 👍🏼
After looking at this, I have serious doubts about purchasing one of these. :(
🙃 Some of these issues can be quite scary just make sure you find one with ample service history that has been well taken care of and it should have less issues! I have had mine for 6 years and have minimal issues over ownership 👍🏼
@@SB-mw1bg You're welcome! 👍🏼
Ditto. I was about to go test drive one and possibly purchasing. Now I. Reconsidering. $500 oil change $1800 spark plugs. Water pump that fail after 30k. Maybe I shouldn't.
I have a Cayman S SPORT 231/700 very special car , hasn't missed a beat
Love it 😊
such a perfect engineered vehicle ... too bad those engine woes prevented me from purchasing one
I’m an ex Porsche technician, the Cayman in all versions is great fun to drive, handles great, has excellent brakes. Unfortunately the car is let down by numerous faults derived from cost cutting, there are a lot VW parts inside, the interior quality is very poor for such an initially expensive car, and the mechanical issues are again unjustified for the cost of the car. As an example, The original water pump has a plastic impeller which disintegrates, I used to fit aftermarket water pumps with a metal impeller, never had one fail. It is a fair comment that many of my customers complained about the overall reliability when compared with the purchase price.
I don’t recall any of my customers changing the oil as Porsche recommended, all did at least an intermediate oil change, due to our hot climate here in Greece, I advised my customers to change the oil at 5000 miles, everyone of them did so, we had virtually no issues with bore scoring and again because of the hot climate, we checked the coolant reservoir at every oil change.
Thanks you talk me out of buying a Porsche
Perfect 👍👍👍👍👍👍
Glad you like it! 😊
Please give me your impressions on the Tiptronic. I currently drive an '06 Corvette Z06 manual and while it is great on an open road, during any city driving or commutes, it's completely tiresome. I'm actually selling it and looking at a Boxster (986) with the Tip. (I know, big change, but I'm getting older and my wife wants to drive it as well. Plus a 505hp car is pretty much useless in the city where I live) Wondering how it drives. And I know, people with crucify you online for driving anything less manly than a manual. (Although I suspect most of them don't even own a car to be honest).
I've seen a few people saying the M97 WILL fail but they either have no source for where they got this information, or it came from an engine rebuilder who has a vested interest in getting customers. Meanwhile I've seen listings of them with 150-300,000 miles, even with the 3.4L still on an original engine so I'm starting to think I should take it with a grain of salt? Seeing them start to go for close to double what I payed a year ago.. it's somewhat tempting to sell, except I only want a 987.2 S or 981GTS with full leather which is extremely out of budget.
Hi Dan thank you for reaching out! I would still definitely take it with a grain of salt. It is crazy how the values have shot up there from last year! Would highly recommend a 981 GTS if you are in the market! Let me know if I can be of any assistance! Have a great rest of your week! 👍🏼
The only reason im not looking for an S model is because Ive read the cables for the 6 spd being an issue. Ive heard about the 3.4l having issues with bore scoring as well
Yes Daniel both of these tend to be issues on the S variant! Good luck in your search 👍🏼
@@Pcarwhisperer I’m honestly desperately looking to get back into a cayman, I think it would be good for my mental health. I’ve owned a base 718 and also 718S model but I’ve traded for a mini so I could work less and focus on school more
I have a 2000 Boxster - minor problems over the years - water pump - frunk lifts - foam insulation on a/c - horn button contact - radio. All minor. All repaired by me. Water pump plastic impeller is the weak link, I found one with a metal impeller - problem solved.
I wish I had those wheels on my 987
Might be able to find some on a wheel enhancement website for a good price 👍🏼
The superfluous use of exclamation points means this guy knows his stuff!!!!!!😂😂😂
Thinking of pulling the trigger on a 07 cayman s. They are asking $30k k (has 56k miles, 2 owners, no accidents/title issues, Drive belts & water pump replaced at 48k miles) think its a good deal??
Junior that sounds like a good deal from how you are describing it! Manual or automatic? Send the details over to pcarwhisperer@gmail.com so I can take a look at it 👍🏼
Amazing alloys...
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The thing in the front bumper is the condenser responsible for the a/c not the cooling system of the engine. that sits right behind it.
Yes! Thank goodness 😊
IMS Issues on 987= Less than 1% effected
Water Pump should not cost $1000 ever. The entire kit to replace it is $200 and it's not that hard.
Bore Score = Seems to only happen on cars that were in COLD regions.
Bore scoring does not affect the 2.7 engine
And The IMS problem? Affect the 987??? Thanks
Anyone have input for me i currently have an s2000 and thinking of trading it for a 987.1 or 2 what are the similarities and differences iv done lots of research and is still a hard decision i do plan on tracking the car maybe 1 or twice a year.
Keep the S2000, very sought after car and going up in value. Cayman s, not so much. I get it, I love the looks of the cayman and thought of selling my mint MR2 Spyder. In the end the maintenance cost of the cayman scared me away.
Does bore scoring affect the base Cayman model??
No. Its an issue with the earlier 3.4 engines.
0:22 - A quirk as it relates to cars would be an unconventional, or odd feature that a buyer must learn to live with if he/she really wants to buy the car. What this guy mentioned weren't quirks, those were disasters. LOL! It probably would have just been better to talk about how durable and well-put-together the Cayman S is like all Porsche cars, and as a result, the Porsche Cayman S is not likely to break down so easily. That said, it's always important to stay on top of the maintenance of your vehicle if you wish to go longer stretches between issues.
I personally believe that if you're not a person with a lot of money and you want a car that's over $20k but expensive to repair, the best thing you can do for yourself would be to first eliminate all your debt, and then apply for an American Express Card. The idea here is to have emergency funds available for those expensive breakdowns/repairs when they eventually happen.
2006 forward have basically ZERO IMS Bearing issues. But BORE SCORING is a serious issue for 2006 fwd porsches except for non S engines. So buy Q006 or newer NON S Caymans. Case closed. Anybody know if 'scoring' S issues ended (what year)
I have a 05 911 and love it. But man do I want a cayman!! I may sell it soon and get a 987.2👌👌
Wanted to buy a 987.2 S but it’s like a unicorn. Settled for a Supra. Zero regrets.
987.2 definitely a tough car to find! Congrats on the Supra 👍🏼
I've had my 2008 Base 987.1 since June, it's now almost October.
I finally realized after 4 months and 2000 miles, it's not about MPH.
Driving a Porsche is about RPM's.
Congrats on the Cayman! Love it! Manual?
Facts.
As someone very new to Porsche, I'm looking to buy my second car ever, and the 987 caught my attention. Would it be a gigantic leap of faith as a university student to buy such a car? It would be my only car, and I would drive it 3-4 times a week. I have some alternatives, but this seems like the most fun and soulful option. Plus if someone asks me what car I drive and I just answer "Porsche", I'd feel kinda cool, not gonna lie xD
Great question.... So glad to hear you are interested in Porsche! I would be sure to make sure you get a PPI before purchasing the car to make sure it is sound and repairs will come up from time to time and can be costly. Getting a sound car from the beginning will certainly help. It certainly is a great option... just make sure to do regular maintenance, PPI and a car with good records and you should be good! I don't blame you... there is certainly a pride in saying you own a Porsche 👍🏼
@@Pcarwhisperer thank you for answering! 🙏
Yes, I think it would be a huge leap. To be clear, I am a few years out of university now and hit $200k last year and I can’t reasonably afford one. Don’t make a huge mistake.
1m06 you forgot the 904, which is really the Caymans grampa, it was a coupe, with a midengined Flat 6.
Calling the base underpowered, bit BS, its more then enough for public roads and you can rev it more so more fun , better sound track
A Water pump is 300 bucks + coolant if you DIY, and its not that difficult..
Took me 2 hours, no big deal
new MAF sensor is 150 bucks and 1 hour DIY time
Add cracked/leaking fuel tank to the long list of things that WILL fail. It's a good job these cares are pretty, because they are not fast and they are not well built either. (yes I have one)
Haters gonna hate. TipTronic is a beast of a auto transmission. If it wasn't, Porsche wouldn't have put it in the Turbo 911 before PDK.
You’re a bit confused, these cars don’t have spark plug tubes, and that’s a non issue for a 987, that’s for the 986.
There is an updated ignition coils, so these need to be updated with the spark plugs. The RMS is a maintenance item, if done when the clutch is changed, it should last that long.
The IMS bearing is a non issue, change the oil in a regular basis, and it last as long as the engine cylinders that will eventually develop bore score .. you can delay it, but you can never stop it.
Never do a PPI at a dealer, it’s a waste of money, do it at an Indy, the MOST IMPORTANT thing is SCOPING the cylinders for bore score, bore score start low in the cylinder, you can’t see it from the spark plug hole, scoping need to be done from the sump
The loose handle has nothing to do with the cable as you said, it’s the return spring in the handle that breaks or go loose and an easy fix.
Lastly never buy a tiptronic .. it’s a very boring transmission
Where did you buy the radio knobs. I need to replace mine. Thank you
Suncoast is a great resource! See below!
www.suncoastparts.com/product/C997K645913D00.html
Well, it's honestly a bit of a shame, seems like it's just a bit too much work to maintain. Obviously depends on the person, though for me, this video deterred me a bit.
What y’all thing bout a single turbo ? Or just might as well get a 911?
I personally love the 718 Cayman! Alot torque and very peppy. Would highly recommend 👍🏼
Owned a 2006 CaymanS and had a turbo installed by TPC racing in 2009. Very reliable and boosted HP to 495. Made other performance mods but the turbo made it a blast to drive. Out performed many of the 911s I ran against. Even converted a couple of 911 owners because of the superior handling characteristics.
I just found a 987 cayman S not to far from me for 30k I'm debating pulling the trigger
Thats awesome! Good service records?! Automatic or manual?
@@Pcarwhisperer it's an auto ive been monitoring it and it just came into my budget and looking at it tomorrow service and everything looks to be perfect
Every 2 years as prescribed
No accidents
And we'll kept
i've seen sparkplug tubes to be had for about 42 bucks (delivered) for the whole car. yet i see a $1800 associated with replacement @05:30 . curious...
they are no more difficult to replace than sparkplugs. even i did that on my cayman (at 70 years old) in a few hours.
I am giving people the worse case scenario when taking to a Porsche dealer that is $200/hr + that $1800 comes up quickly! If you can do it yourself even better 👍🏼
It's called the Porsche tax. I deal with high end luxury dealerships every day. You have no idea how much they rip people off. Book time for a repair is based on how long it takes to complete the repair. For some reason Porsche dealership's labor rate is twice as high as a regular mechanical labor rate.
I had one very slow
There are much more frequent engine and bearing issues with the S-Modell than with the base model
Yes exactly 👍🏼
I’ll just stick with civic si, I just put gas and change oil once every 3k miles!!!
There you go 💪🏼
The best comment 😂. I have a 2010 and put 50k miles on it in 5 years , the car is at 100k now. Only oil changes and a battery.
Any issues with a “sticky” stiff tiptronic shifter? I feel like it only occurs in hot days
Funny you mention that yes! I have had this issues as well. Had to replace my shifter gate.
@@Pcarwhisperer how much did it cost
@@TheJamesBond About $1200 dollars installed 👍🏼
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