Game of Thrones Symbolism: The Lannisters

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  • @kebdin
    @kebdin 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2744

    "The dwarf, the cripple, and the mother of madness."

    • @gobindsingh3052
      @gobindsingh3052 5 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Soviet Scooty omfg I came down to the comments and read this at the exactly the same time as he was saying it

    • @donalddeluxe6407
      @donalddeluxe6407 4 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      THAT LINE NEVER GETS OLD!!!!

  • @rayoliver3387
    @rayoliver3387 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3501

    Tyrion = Tywin’s mind
    Jaime = Tywin’s body
    Cersei = Tywin’s soul

    • @madunicorn4568
      @madunicorn4568 6 ปีที่แล้ว +53

      Reoribuh Kahili nicely said

    • @Elijah-nf3ch
      @Elijah-nf3ch 5 ปีที่แล้ว +468

      That means Tywin's mind betrayed his body then fucked his soul.

    • @collindanielson9176
      @collindanielson9176 5 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      Tywin wasnt a warrior tho

    • @kaliyuga1476
      @kaliyuga1476 5 ปีที่แล้ว +146

      @@collindanielson9176 Yes he was, in the war of the nine peckines and against house tarweck

    • @alexthorsman3186
      @alexthorsman3186 5 ปีที่แล้ว +130

      @@Elijah-nf3ch Actually, you've got that wrong. Tywin's body fucked his soul and his soul betrayed his mind.

  • @Stephensofceea
    @Stephensofceea 6 ปีที่แล้ว +776

    The only person who doesn't confirm with the Lannister traits is not Tyrion, it's Tommen. Tyrion is a true blue Lannister.

    • @zwenth
      @zwenth 4 ปีที่แล้ว +71

      i think Tommen's traits came from Tywin's father it could also be from Jaime.

    • @aengusog3415
      @aengusog3415 3 ปีที่แล้ว +50

      Tommen is literally 8 like damn 💀

    • @samanthakiu4055
      @samanthakiu4055 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      and tywin

    • @viviandarkbloom9232
      @viviandarkbloom9232 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      even Myrcella

    • @sirarthurofwinterfell282
      @sirarthurofwinterfell282 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      More like true gold

  • @bhanukawijeyaratne6243
    @bhanukawijeyaratne6243 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3340

    There is no denying it, Tywin Lannister is the greatest player of the game of thrones with the perfect combination of both honor and cruelty that conversation with Aarya in season 3 proved it.

    • @Zenene-ok5el
      @Zenene-ok5el 7 ปีที่แล้ว +301

      Compared to Littlefinger or the Spider, though... Tywin failed to recognize Daenerys as a growing threat. He gave Baelish more power than he should ever have when he made him Lord of Harrenhal and sent him to court Lysa Arryn, and he never got a glimpse of Varys's true plan (restoring the Targaryen dynasty by causing the Lannisters' fall). If he had been such a great player, he would've realized that, even if his cruelty was very useful against his enemies, his modus operandi was building an unhealthy dependence in his own family, a family which would surely crumble with his absence.

    • @Zenene-ok5el
      @Zenene-ok5el 7 ปีที่แล้ว +189

      Also, his demeanor with his progenies ensured that not one of his own children would be able to rule House Lannister in his name: Jamie became both afraid and unfit for ruling, Cersei became a power-hungry bitch with an inferiority complex and Tyrion never got the respect he should have despite being a good ruler.

    • @JLchevz
      @JLchevz 7 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      was

    • @TheNinetySecond
      @TheNinetySecond 7 ปีที่แล้ว +93

      Completely agree with Zenene here. Tywinn was a magnificent player, and a perfect combination of military and political prowess, but he isn't a full package.
      I'd say he embodies the futility of puritanism. His work with family, politics and war, was all rooted in his self imposed dogma, that ended up blinding him in the face of all the threats and scandals mentioned above, and ultimately led to his downfall.
      It's also pretty important to note that his whole character was a self made one, based on his hatred towards his own father. There never was a tried-and-tested "Lannister nationalism" (understood here as a chauvanistic pride in his family and in - at the very least - Casterly Rock). It was all something that he made up, and built up as a natural truth, but which ended up kicking a lot of problems down the road (nothing but power-by-proximity, severely damaged kids, no loyalty based alliances, damaging infamy), and being far too rigid in the face political turmoil (which isn't that uncommon in Westeros - he basically kickstarted their powertrip 30 years prior to the series *in the midst of political turmoil.)*
      Actually, now that I think about it, Tywin is a pretty great allegory for fascism:
      Set up a brand new and untested counter-ideology to whatever came before, put a *BIG STRONG MAN* in charge, turn up your ambitions to make-or-break level, and keep moving forward with no regards to long term consequences. It's a crude simplification, but that's more or less what Tywin was doing, right up until one of those damaged kids ( /disenfranchised political associate) came back and revenge-murdered him on the shitter.
      The more I think about this, the more I'm convinced Tywin was actually really fucking bad at the Game of Thrones. In the end, he was just really good at projecting power, wealth and control, and was doing pretty well in his borrowed time.

    • @Nicholas-cf5zu
      @Nicholas-cf5zu 7 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      A great read that pushes back against the notion that Tywin was all ruthless pragmatism -- this was just a mask to hide a vengeful, petty spirit (not just towards Tyrion, but others as well, such as the Martells):
      warsandpoliticsoficeandfire.wordpress.com/2014/09/04/the-lions-fury-tywin-lannister-and-the-psychology-of-brutality/

  • @marleywalker3284
    @marleywalker3284 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3169

    I've noticed that in the show the less "lannister-like" the lannisters become their hair becomes darker like Jaime and Tyrion where as Cersei's has stayed the same due to her not losing her lannister character traits, what do you guys think?

    • @hanana7167
      @hanana7167 7 ปีที่แล้ว +205

      Malaysian_ Asian interesting theory!

    • @marleywalker3284
      @marleywalker3284 7 ปีที่แล้ว +38

      Hannah Banana Thank you I appreciate it :)

    • @SkipperPlaysTW
      @SkipperPlaysTW 7 ปีที่แล้ว +144

      Malaysian_ Asian Interesting theory, but I believe Tyrion is the most Lannister like of all Tywin's children.

    • @GalaktischerHirnsauger
      @GalaktischerHirnsauger 7 ปีที่แล้ว +41

      SkipperPlaysTW he is the least lannister like

    • @KaylaSwEet06
      @KaylaSwEet06 7 ปีที่แล้ว +281

      Bullshit, Tyrion is a strategic genius like his father. Tyrion is more like Tywin than any other of his children.

  • @mythloverb5931
    @mythloverb5931 6 ปีที่แล้ว +129

    "A Lannister always pays his--"
    "Don't say it. Don't fooking say it."
    This is why Bronn is one of the best characters.

  • @NNNNNOo
    @NNNNNOo 6 ปีที่แล้ว +199

    They're the most interesting family/characters. You're never bored when one of them is on screen, especially if it's Cersei and Tyrion together.

    • @apieceoflife2732
      @apieceoflife2732 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      No.They were hot headed,over ambitious and very short sighted.All the decisions Tywin took served him till he was alive.He died,his legacy died.

    • @kp361
      @kp361 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@apieceoflife2732 They were the most interesting characters. And I think you mean 'till he was dead'.

  • @yajatunde77
    @yajatunde77 5 ปีที่แล้ว +200

    The best actors of the entire game of thrones. Period

  • @sanjaymenon5070
    @sanjaymenon5070 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1345

    I disagree with the idea that Tyrion is the most un-Lannister-like member of the house. Maybe appearance-wise, but his intelligence, ruthlessness and resourcefulness point directly to his father Tywin. The show may project him as a wronged good guy, which he is, but it doesn't delve into the dark thoughts that fill his minds regarding those he sees as his enemies, mostly Tywin and Cersei - something which is repeatedly driven home to the reader in the books. Had he not been born a dwarf he probably would've continued as Tywin's heir not only in name, but also in spirit.

    • @url4345
      @url4345 5 ปีที่แล้ว +62

      Also atleast in the books, he has a strong desire to be like his father and make him proud, so he is really shaped by wanting to emulate and impress Tywin as well

    • @houstonburnside8985
      @houstonburnside8985 5 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Tomen breaks the mold

    • @reginaphalange9417
      @reginaphalange9417 5 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      @@url4345 even in the show. After Tywin named him king's hand and called him "his son" (which was another manipulation because he needed him in King's Landing while he was at war against Robb) I think Tyrion really believed he had another chance to please her father, so he did everything he could to protect his family. But then in season 3, despite his major role in the victory, he was dismissed and confined in a small room. He still tried to convince Tywin to make him his legitimate heir (since Jaime was not able to be, being a member of the King's guard) but Tywin once again revealed his true feelings and humiliated him, proving that he lied to him in season 1 just to convince him to do the dirty work. This is when Tyrion definitely abandoned any hope to be a real Lannister.

    • @retroraptressmcdeborahjane806
      @retroraptressmcdeborahjane806 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Sanjay menon but he’s not selfish

    • @jocelynthom2904
      @jocelynthom2904 4 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      You know at one point in the books, Tywin's sister Genna Lannister claimed to him that out of his three offspring, Tyrion resembles him the most by intelligence, resourcefulness, spirit, and ruthlessness. Tywin was so mad about that claim that he refused to speak to his sister for what she said.

  • @faz108
    @faz108 7 ปีที่แล้ว +457

    They're also descended from Lann the Clever, who tricked the Casterlys out of the Rock. They're descended from a clever manipulator as the Starks are descended from a respected builder who built both objects and loyalty and as the Baratheons are descended from a great warrior who won their house through military prowess.
    I guess what I'm saying is, George is clever as fuck.

    • @vardiganxpl1698
      @vardiganxpl1698 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      That is honestly a very good insight, it shows how the deeper nature of these families, the rest of westeros write of the starks arla these barbarian rulers, then later as honorable fools with the popularity of Ned of recent history, yet in their nature, they were always dedicated, and build and grow their people, They are builders. Whole the Lannisters of Tywin want to create a dynasty, trying to give the image that his house are a noble and respectable house that are to be feared. yet they always scheme, lie, manipulate, and plot. They are far from being noble lions, and more like cunning tricksters

  • @shilohelgin2408
    @shilohelgin2408 7 ปีที่แล้ว +525

    The problem with Tommen was he was in spite of being kind but he was also weak and prone to inaction

    • @smitex8774
      @smitex8774 6 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      Shiloh Elgin better then Joffrey

    • @MP15aug
      @MP15aug 6 ปีที่แล้ว +76

      he was simply young. In time he could have come into his own.

    • @lobokujo7825
      @lobokujo7825 5 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      Tommem was like his great grandfather, Tytos.

    • @josephwright4222
      @josephwright4222 4 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      he was like 9 (?) when he became king? How many 9 year olds do you know could rule a nation as a monarch? You can't judge what sort of king he'd be before he even reached puberty

    • @Sawrattan
      @Sawrattan 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@josephwright4222 Tommen and Joffrey are like opposite extremes of England's King Edward VI. Like Tommen, he was young, physically weak and overrun with religious extremists, but he helped to encourage the extremists with a callousness and spitefulness (see how he treated his big sister Mary) closer to Joffrey.

  • @PriusRaj
    @PriusRaj 4 ปีที่แล้ว +385

    Of all three children, Jaime is the one who is least a Lannister.
    He literally refused to do his duty to have heirs and chose to join the Kingsguard out of loyalty and love to Cersei, not to his house. His sense of honor made him kill Aerys despite how awkward that made him and House Lannister look. He armed Brienne and told her to rescue Sansa when it would have been better for House Lannister to have her captured.
    Jaime Lannister was loyal to his morals and to those he loved (Tyrion, Brienne and Cersei). That was all. Fuck glory, gold, and reputation.
    Ironically, if it wasn't for his incest, facade and blatant dishonesty about himself he'd probably be closer to being a Stark than a Lannister.

    • @apieceoflife2732
      @apieceoflife2732 3 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      What Jaime had was trauma,not the "love" towards Cersei.

    • @oscarbautista4156
      @oscarbautista4156 2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      Jaime did not choose to join the kingsguard off his own wish... Aerys apointed him to piss off tywin... Jaime only accepted because cercei convinced him so they could be close at KL... and let's not forget the little detail of getting shorted a head if he didn't accept..

  • @SkipperPlaysTW
    @SkipperPlaysTW 7 ปีที่แล้ว +776

    "The character who doesn't fit the personality of the house is Tyrion." You couldn't be more wrong here. Tyrion is more Tywin than Jaime, Cersei, Kevan, Gerion, Tygett, Genna, Joffrey, Myrcella and Tomment combined.

    • @khairula9936
      @khairula9936 6 ปีที่แล้ว +86

      SkipperPlaysTW No, this video is correct. Yes Tyrion is the most Tywin-like thanks to his wits and intelligence, but that is not Lannister family defining characteristic. Remember Tywin father was a weak and clueless man? Their family true symbolic personality is selfishness, to put their own need above everything else. Tywin, Cersei, Jaime (before he lost his hand), Joffrey and almost every other Lannisters all have this. Tyrion is not, he able to sympathize with the weak and the unfortunates which probably because he himself has been oppressed and insulted within his own family since he was a child, thus Tyrion built his own set of moral values.

    • @SkipperPlaysTW
      @SkipperPlaysTW 6 ปีที่แล้ว +29

      Can't agree with you there. Cersei (especially in the books) can be summed up by her desire to protect her children. She has a selfless devotion to them. Jaime I needn't comment on. He's arguably the most selfless person in the show and books (but hides it). The only one you could argue is truly selfish is Tywin - but even he has an undying loyalty to his house over himself.
      Tyrion seems very Lannister (until Season 5 where everything about his character is thrown away and he is made into a black and white protagonist).
      Varys: "Ned Stark was an honorable man."
      Tyrion: "And I am not. Threaten me again and i'll have you thrown into the sea."

    • @khairula9936
      @khairula9936 6 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      You seem a bit confused on what selfishness means. When one is willing to sacrifice their own life to fight a much more powerful enemy to protect their idea/family yeah that is a selfless (and one hell of a badass) devotion, but when you're a person in power such as Queen Cersei who willing to slaughter families, burn thousand of mostly innocent people to 'protect' your own that is not devotion, that is selfishness. A really huge selfishness. Most dictators in this world has true love for their family and yet we don't call that a selfless devotion.
      As matter of fact she is the most selfish among the Lannisters, as she care only of her own kids, and to certain extent his brother/lover Jaime. She even blame Tommen after he died, saying "he abandon us" when confronted by Jamie, remember? At least Tywin cs. do what they do for the whole Lannister clans and never betray that one value they hold.
      Jamie, yes he has become much better, and now one of the most likable, but that after a whole life-changing experiences during the story. So the video is correct when saying that Tyrion is the only one that doesn't fit the Lannister characteristic, he has been such a sympathetic person ever since the story start.

    • @SkipperPlaysTW
      @SkipperPlaysTW 6 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      I think this is subjective. You could, rightly, argue that because the cost of protecting her children, Cersei is selfish. But you could also, rightly, argue that the initial concept of protecting her children is selfless.
      I guess it depends which lens you apply.

    • @FanGirlMania
      @FanGirlMania 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Tommen is not Lannister like at all

  • @Thoralmir
    @Thoralmir 5 ปีที่แล้ว +147

    The Lion is actually a wholly fitting symbol for the Lannisters, when you know the true nature of lions. They're vicious, brutal animals, stealing kills from smaller predators, killing smaller predators to eliminate competition, striking in the night, males even slaughtering existing cubs when they take over a pride in order to bring the females into estrus. Males will drive off their own sons once they become sexually active, not unlike Tywin's contempt for Tyrion's whoremongering. Lions use overwhelming violence and fear to stay on top, like how Tywin uses the Mountain's savage cruelty and violence to eliminate enemies.
    Lions will often go out of their way to eliminate the young of hyenas and other predators, like how the Lannisters go after King Robert's bastard kids and the Stark children.

    • @anti-mate407
      @anti-mate407 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      another interesting comparison is that many across the whole world believe Lions are the king of the jungle when in truth there are far more animals and animal packs that can outperform lions at both strength and effenciency, similarly to how tywin is seen as the most untouchable man with the strongest convictions and brutality when in truth he couldn't even overcome a petty hate for his own child who wasn't even responsible nor deserving of that hate

    • @AFanOfCinema
      @AFanOfCinema 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      And here's a fun fact: lions are also known to have sex with their own family members, like Jamie and Cersei

  • @phyllisfeng9794
    @phyllisfeng9794 6 ปีที่แล้ว +344

    I miss Tommen. He was a sweet, gullible kid who deserved better.

    • @Sawrattan
      @Sawrattan 4 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      Unfortunately in the history books, sweet gullible kings rarely end up well. Or they are easily manipulated to become monsters themselves.

    • @Waineruny09
      @Waineruny09 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Ikr, I hate how Cersei manipulated him

    • @Ella.46667
      @Ella.46667 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Sometimes I'm tommen in this world . Need to be more hard , less compassionate. I grew up with single mum . I have good heart , people take advantage

    • @mattk3654
      @mattk3654 ปีที่แล้ว

      At least he got to bang Margorie Tyrell few times before the church imprisoned her. That's definitely a highlight of his short life and shorter reign.

    • @garlantyrell6368
      @garlantyrell6368 ปีที่แล้ว

      If anyone were to manipulate him it would be Margaery because unlike Cersei or the High Sparrow at least she would’ve been good counsel for Tommen in ruling. This was more discovered in the books but Margaery told the boy to attend more small council meetings and court sessions along with getting her brother Loras to train Tommen with a sword and know how to fight. She’s also trying to give him more of a backbone to stand up to Cersei so they can both be rid of her. Maybe all manipulative but those were things Tommen should’ve been doing as king in the first place right?

  • @strategicgamingwithaacorns2874
    @strategicgamingwithaacorns2874 6 ปีที่แล้ว +53

    _"And who are you," the proud Lord said,_
    _"that I must bow so low?_
    _Only a cat of a different coat,_
    _that's all the truth I know!_
    _Be a coat of gold or a coat of red,_
    _a lion still has claws,_
    _and mine are long and sharp my lord,_
    _as long and sharp as yours."_
    _And so he spoke, and so he spoke,_
    _that Lord of Castamere._
    _But now the rains weep o'er his halls,_
    _and no-one there to hear._
    _Yes now the rains weep o'er his halls,_
    _and not a soul to hear._

  • @webx135
    @webx135 6 ปีที่แล้ว +72

    I feel like Tyrion is undoubtedly Tywin's son and very much a Lannister. You don't have to be Cersei-like to be a Lannister. Even Tywin's worst atrocities saved thousands of lives.

    • @legrandliseurtri7495
      @legrandliseurtri7495 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Burning the Tully's land after fedding his army with them is saving thousands of life?

    • @leostormdryke9036
      @leostormdryke9036 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Tywin brought prosperity as hand to aerys and kept tha king in check and the westerlands were always propering so tywin was a great ruler and many lannisters (cersei was ruthless and smart but not that smart) as well

    • @apieceoflife2732
      @apieceoflife2732 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Lol No.Tywin was a monster in nice clothes

  • @ivo28182
    @ivo28182 5 ปีที่แล้ว +56

    "Hear me roar" also implies flashiness and a need for recognition/admiration, I think

  • @1805movie
    @1805movie 7 ปีที่แล้ว +845

    The lion is the Lannister sigil, and lions often perform incest.

    • @deacondank6249
      @deacondank6249 6 ปีที่แล้ว +297

      (fact) female wolves don't allow incest. praise the starks

    • @mmmk6793
      @mmmk6793 6 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      hhHh bruh..

    • @spardahellkin5814
      @spardahellkin5814 6 ปีที่แล้ว +105

      Well if dragons were real they must have been crazy addicted to it then

    • @glanni
      @glanni 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Deacon Dank that's a really interestring fact!

    • @meghnasaha4349
      @meghnasaha4349 6 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      But we don't know of any other Lannisters doing it. It's the Targaryens that are known for marrying off brothers and sisters (of course there are exceptions)

  • @ricepaddymaddie
    @ricepaddymaddie 7 ปีที่แล้ว +523

    Just as the Stark's symbolism video, this was also very well done!

  • @simaopereira3697
    @simaopereira3697 7 ปีที่แล้ว +956

    6:54 That´s actualy not true (at least in the books). Out of the 3 Lanistes siblings Tyrion is the most similar to his father. Jamie doesn´t want power and Cersi is to stupid to rule, but Tyrion and Tywin embody pragmatism and machiavellianism.
    This is Tyrion´s quote from the books when Tywin says that he is not his son: "Now that’s where you’re wrong, Father. Why, I believe I'm you writ small". And this what aunt Gena said to Jaime: "Tyrion is Tywin's son, not you. I said so once to your father's face, and he would not speak to me for half a year"
    The similarities betwen Tywin and Tyrion are represented with the aliteration on they´re names: TYwin, TYrion, TYrants.

    • @lookmethecat
      @lookmethecat 7 ปีที่แล้ว +142

      Jaime is probably the least "Lannister" of all the Lannisters.
      Like you said yourself, Tyrion is perceived to be the most like his father without trying. Cercei seeks to model herself off of Tywin and fails mostly due to the fact she is a woman.
      Jaime doesn't scheme or attempt to gain power, he actually refuses it in favour of being with a woman he "loves". He doesn't really care for the family name or how people perceive him (this is a lie of course, he is very sensitive when it comes to being called a Kingslayer).
      Jaime ends up being one of the few decent Lannisters.

    • @marjorie.mp4
      @marjorie.mp4 7 ปีที่แล้ว +74

      green tunic of destiny I wish I could like both of these comments more than once. All the animosity between Tyrion and Tywin stems from them being so similar. And Jaime is so different from the two of them. Tywin always wanted Jaime to take over after him, but Jaime would rather be a knight than a ruler. And both Tyrion and Cersei wish they had Jaime's body in order to be taken seriously and become influential the way Lannisters, according to Tywin, are meant to be.

    • @thetake
      @thetake  7 ปีที่แล้ว +99

      Very interesting reading! Thanks for sharing your knowledge of the books. This suggests that Tywin's hatred of Tyrion is partly based in rejecting parts of himself that he doesn't want to acknowledge.

    • @Ari33sa
      @Ari33sa 7 ปีที่แล้ว +95

      I always thought Jaime was really what held the family together for so long. Probably since their mothers death, he is the only thing keeping them together. He's the only one all three of them like - and he's also the only one trying and giving his best to be liked by them. Not always, especially when he comes back one handed, their are some lines he draws, (like saying no to his father), but he's still trying to if possible please them all enough, that they could go back to being a disfunctional family, rater than the clusterfuck they are. It's no wonder everything falls apart, as soon as he's captured and away for them for longer than a year.

    • @marjorie.mp4
      @marjorie.mp4 7 ปีที่แล้ว +34

      Ari33sa oh wow, I think you're dead on. Especially with the timing of their unravelling. I've never looked at it that way before!

  • @wesleywittekiend423
    @wesleywittekiend423 7 ปีที่แล้ว +206

    Really appreciate the high quality Game of Thrones content y'all have been putting out lately. Keep up the good work.

  • @SophiaStarla
    @SophiaStarla 5 ปีที่แล้ว +111

    To be fair, the Lannisters WERE kings before the Targaryens showed up

    • @leostormdryke9036
      @leostormdryke9036 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Yes the kings of the rock

    • @gfilmer7150
      @gfilmer7150 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      The Kingdom of The Rock. The richest of all of the kingdoms. They only bent because Orys Baratheon held a blade to Loren Lannister’s throat while he was on his knees in front of Aegon The Conqueror.

  • @Beforethecredits
    @Beforethecredits 7 ปีที่แล้ว +318

    I like that you all decided to do a GoT lead up.

    • @davidmsirois
      @davidmsirois 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Voldemort. Voldemort. Oooo, voldy, voldy, voldy, Voldemort!

    • @maggyfoster8699
      @maggyfoster8699 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Harry Potter killed you so yeah take that

  • @ridzkyasdi2510
    @ridzkyasdi2510 6 ปีที่แล้ว +307

    you seemed bias against the Lannister, when jaime and tyrion showed something good, you describe it as 'un-Lannister like'. In my opinion though, they're the most interesting house in all seven kingdom

    • @kiamaria331
      @kiamaria331 5 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      Because it kind of is. If Tyrion had not been born with dwarfism, he would be the stereotypical Lannister that everyone hates. And every good act that Jaime does has been driven by his proximity to and influence by Brienne. Just as Cersei had been the driving force in creating the Jaime we were presented with at the beginning of the series.

    • @Iamnotabug
      @Iamnotabug 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Interesting =/= good.

    • @dennisvillaflor3359
      @dennisvillaflor3359 5 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Kia Maria jaime isnt selfish nor narcissistic. If he was, he would be going for the throne like his father wanted to. Instead he served the army. He was the only one that treats tyrion with respect. He did what he did because he sincerely loves cersei. Jaime is very far from being selfish.

    • @reginaphalange9417
      @reginaphalange9417 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@dennisvillaflor3359 but he would do anything for her, no matter the cost for the others (like he told Edmure in season 6)

    • @apieceoflife2732
      @apieceoflife2732 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Well it's because they are evil,who deserve to be punished for the horrifying things they did.And They had to pay the price.

  • @jemelleal172
    @jemelleal172 7 ปีที่แล้ว +141

    I know a House Targaryen analysis is bound to come, but will you do an analysis for Houses Tyrell and Baratheon? I feel there's so much interesting symbolism to be found in their sigils and characters, like how a rose and its hidden thorns can compare to Margaery and Olenna; and how deer fight amongst each other like the contending branches of House Baratheon

  • @Andrea-ul7cm
    @Andrea-ul7cm 6 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Thank you for putting several Joffrey slaps in there.

  • @the.saunter.experiment
    @the.saunter.experiment 7 ปีที่แล้ว +331

    i hope you guys do videoes on symbolism of house targaryen and house tyrell as well

    • @contraGP
      @contraGP 7 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      Yes! I'm hoping they do a video for all the main houses.

    • @jthemming2419
      @jthemming2419 7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Tyrell Please!

    • @dominicwolfgangwallace2331
      @dominicwolfgangwallace2331 7 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      and maybe even some minor ones like Boltons, Mormonts, or even Baelish.

    • @stellaarteois1355
      @stellaarteois1355 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Dominic Wolfgang Wallace bealish is not really a house

    • @thehangedman5114
      @thehangedman5114 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      xing hai shi bu xing house baelish is a house dude, he was, and I suppose still is, Lord Baelish of a small lordship in the Vale. he even got his name "littlefinger" from his province

  • @awaywiththefaeries9464
    @awaywiththefaeries9464 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    I disagree with the statement that Tyrion doesn’t fit in with the Lannister’s. Like Tywin and Cersei, he has a desire for power, he often thinks that his status as a dwarf is what holds him back (similar to how Cersei sees her femininity as a disadvantage) , he doesn’t get along with his father and sister, he enjoys revenge, and he seems to require rewards for bravery (Blackwater). In contrast, Jaime doesn’t try to gain power, he gets along with both his siblings, he rarely seeks revenge, and he allows people to call him Kingslayer and Oathbreaker instead of telling people that he saved millions of lives.

  • @williamthefloridano5290
    @williamthefloridano5290 7 ปีที่แล้ว +372

    A kind king does not make him a good king. Tommen would have never been a good king.

    • @Raducu2oo5
      @Raducu2oo5 6 ปีที่แล้ว +81

      i mean...Margery would have been king lol

    • @glanni
      @glanni 6 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      Brett William Vinopal he had no idea what it took to be king. Thus he was controlled by anyone. He was not as bad as pathetic joffrey though (duh)

    • @ironmantis25
      @ironmantis25 6 ปีที่แล้ว +37

      He would, he's just way too young to be given any governing responsibility.

    • @eny1103
      @eny1103 6 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      No he would have not because he feared the faith and had no spine and let all the mess happened out of fear.

    • @BlueberryMom
      @BlueberryMom 5 ปีที่แล้ว +43

      If Tywin had lived, he would have made Tommen into a good king.

  • @Feamelwen
    @Feamelwen 6 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    I feel that this video, while well-made, oversimplifies the complex characters by reducing them to stereotypes and makes a classic Slytherin-ish case for Tyrion as "THE good Lannister". (I'm referring to any Harry Potter character who is a Slytherin and when fans, instead of accepting that everyone is complex and can have both good and bad in them pigeon-hole every character into some stereotype, generally the one of their Hogwarts' house - hence any character the fans like and argue he/she is not a "real" Slytherin, instead of accepting that Slytherins aren't just the "evil" guys. There's also the classic argument of any "bad" Gryffindor being not a "real" Griffindor but a covert "Slytherin").
    Tyrion is different from Cersei and has more in common with Jamie, but he also exhibits a lot of Lannister characteristics (which are not all super negative cartoonish "bad guy" traits, by the way). He's cunning, actually really susceptible to flattery, especially when it's coming from a woman, and uses his name & wealth to great advantage. He also has a really dark side sometimes, which is more visible in the books in his inner monologue than in the show. He's just as Lannister as anyone else.
    The Lannisters, like most characters of ASoIaF, are complex people. Really, your descriptions only apply to Tywin & Cersei, who are the minority of the Lannisters we meet in the course of the story.

  • @annapplegoldfinch6931
    @annapplegoldfinch6931 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    You mentioned that House Lannister might be better represented by snakes than lions. However, although lions are better known for their physical strength, they are still cats, and cats are well-known for being crafty, sneaky, and a touch crazy. They are thought of as manipulative and psychotic, but also as wise and loving. All of these traits can be found in the Lannister family.

  • @charliehoke1956
    @charliehoke1956 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    "A Lannister always pays his-"
    "DON'T SAY IT DON'T FOOKIN' SAY IT"

  • @the.saunter.experiment
    @the.saunter.experiment 7 ปีที่แล้ว +48

    i love you guys' videos on game of thrones! keep them coming

  • @frankbunny5959
    @frankbunny5959 7 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Seriously I watch a lot of Game of Throne videos and these are genuinely superb and a cut above the rest.

  • @quickiesilver9307
    @quickiesilver9307 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I never get bored when one of their family members show up in the screen. They always either say or do something interesting which makes the show even more entertaining

  • @hahahahat7492
    @hahahahat7492 5 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    The Lannisters
    Tywin is merciless
    Jaime is handless
    Cersei is brainless
    Tyrion is noseless
    Joffrey is breathless
    Idk about tommen and myrcella :p

    • @3crowsinatrenchcoat
      @3crowsinatrenchcoat 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Tommen is spineless
      Myrcella s husbandless

    • @ratticustheemperor
      @ratticustheemperor 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      cersei the b r a i n l e s s
      LMFAO-

    • @protoncoccus3229
      @protoncoccus3229 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Oh, Tyrion suffered a nose injury during Blackwater right?

  • @katharinavonthun9438
    @katharinavonthun9438 7 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I love this channel! You truly show how a love for film and tv is also a love of art! Keep up the wonderful work :)

  • @Bbowers3428
    @Bbowers3428 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    First, I love the in depth analysis of each family. I can tell y'all spent a lot of time and effort to make these as accurate and interesting as they are. Secondly, your voice is extremely comforting with all these deaths and betrayals in GoT. Lastly and most importantly, these videos create a rewatch value to an already amazing and rewatchable show

  • @JamesInYourArea51
    @JamesInYourArea51 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Really enjoying this series of analysis, and your channel overall. Thank you for all the work you (and your team) do, and for a wonderful voice--perfect for narration. :)

  • @Soutpiel78
    @Soutpiel78 7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I am blown away by this channel.
    Thank you so much!

  • @adonisking728
    @adonisking728 7 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    These videos are really well done. keep up the work

  • @DanaosV5
    @DanaosV5 7 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Great content!!!
    Subbed without a second thought!!!
    Winter is here!
    Greetings from Greece :)

  • @benmurdock4057
    @benmurdock4057 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Great content! Can't wait to see the next one.

  • @NotInformedOfficial
    @NotInformedOfficial 6 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    About 2 years ago, my friends and i asked each other what house would we belong in given the chance. I answered Lannister cause i felt very similar and connected to Jamie and Tyrion. This video however, knocks it out the park. Not only do I think Im a Lannister, but also my entire family haha

  • @Imgonnawatchthis2
    @Imgonnawatchthis2 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    thank you for this! really excited for the next season😩

  • @amitmate
    @amitmate 7 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    My two favorites are from this house!

  • @lucasmorais7646
    @lucasmorais7646 7 ปีที่แล้ว +36

    Very accurate analysis! Can you do a Bolton one eventually?

  • @Missshantel1
    @Missshantel1 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    This is what Jamie was trying to explain to Cersi in Season 7 Episode 1, that there is no purpose in going to war when they can't leave a legacy. Then she says that she won't do it for legacy but for "us". I think Jamie realizes now that Cersi accepted the fate of her children and now it's about self-preservation.

  • @iinmediasres4938
    @iinmediasres4938 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Keep these coming! Loving the GoT themed videos leading up to the season premiere :)

  • @hakiriminao8563
    @hakiriminao8563 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for your videos! its amazing, can"t stop watching!!!

  • @LyAn215
    @LyAn215 6 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I want to rewatch the whole series but I'm only at season 1 and everytime I saw Ned Stark I cried my eyes out

  • @KingMckay
    @KingMckay 7 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    How did you get that font?

  • @nickbotic
    @nickbotic 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    I can't believe I haven't found these videos until now! This stuff is fascinating.

  • @smspl-il5wg
    @smspl-il5wg 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great Job! I'm looking forward your next videos.

  • @colonelsanders1611
    @colonelsanders1611 6 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    You can't fully judge a House by what it's most recent generation had done. You have to take the full history of the House into account. Ex: despite Jaime being a kingslayer and Tyrion being a kinslayer, the Lannisters have shown great loyalty by backing the Targaryens through 5 Blackfyre rebellions. This shows that the Lannisters can be fiercely loyal to other people aside from themselves.

  • @NewGuy2534
    @NewGuy2534 7 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Slapping Geoffrey is the best.

  • @SuniRedPanda
    @SuniRedPanda 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    I was hoping this would be a series, ya'll got a new sub.

  • @the1nonlyani
    @the1nonlyani 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    great content and analysis, my new favourite channel!

  • @GalaktischerHirnsauger
    @GalaktischerHirnsauger 7 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    great video ! Can you do baratheons or tyrells next ?

  • @brucenatelee
    @brucenatelee 7 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Quote of the day: "You care so much about your outer appearance, you abandoned your inner soul."

  • @hippie9052
    @hippie9052 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is one of those hidden gems TH-cam randomly recommends and I'm glad it did

  • @Bs60182
    @Bs60182 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love these videos, really well done!

  • @valardohaeris333
    @valardohaeris333 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Liked, subscribed and downloaded

  • @thisisridiculous337
    @thisisridiculous337 7 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I like how as Jaime lost his hand, and through it his superior swordsmanship, the thing that made him "above others" and connected him to his father and sister, that's what marked the beginning of his seperation from them. The literal change sparking the internal change, and they indicate him moving away from those Lannister traits with things like his interest in Brienne and his changed views of the rest of his family when he returns to King's Landing (Though I am ignoring the scene in the show not in the books where he rapes Cersei)

  • @lexrev8475
    @lexrev8475 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    I LOVE THESE. KEEP EM COMING !!!!

  • @KnightOfNight3405
    @KnightOfNight3405 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    I like the video before finishing it thats how much I love your channel!

  • @terrysoriano1996
    @terrysoriano1996 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This Video and the Stark Sigil one is outstanding! Patiently waiting for a Targaryen Sigil Explanation ❤️

  • @Daria-sc6mi
    @Daria-sc6mi 5 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    Am I the only one who thinks Cersei didn't love her kids as much as everyone says? She loved them as long as she could control and own them Jeoffrey was a spoiled physco that she enabled until she couldn't control him anymore she barely had a relationship with myrcella and she killed the women tommen loved and drove him to suicide bc she wanted to remain the queen and keep her last son as a baby

    • @dennisvillaflor3359
      @dennisvillaflor3359 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      She loved them but its not the right love. She truly in her own way cared for them. However, she cannot see that she is doing more harm than good. She never tried to control joffrey, which was a mistake and she tried to control tommen, which was a mistake. The problem with cersei is she cannot think ahead and she overestimates her own smartness. She likes to act like Tywin but she is the furthest of the three to Tywin, as tywin always thinks of the consequences of all of his action (except for tyrion). The only thing she got from tywin is his pride.

  • @lichking2233
    @lichking2233 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Analysis done right, great video!

  • @ginger6258
    @ginger6258 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great! Can't wait for the next one!

  • @catherinecao4810
    @catherinecao4810 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    “The proud Lannister children: the dwarf, the cripple, and the mother of madness.”🍷

  • @wlaPHS
    @wlaPHS 7 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    I want more Jamie season 1 hair

    • @easybreeze1891
      @easybreeze1891 5 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Angela Willmott he looked like prince charming in shrek

    • @ratticustheemperor
      @ratticustheemperor 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@easybreeze1891 yes he did. i forgot his name and was about to say he looked like lord farquaad-

  • @daling430
    @daling430 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm really liking this series. thank you.

  • @Edvinas97
    @Edvinas97 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    i love these kind of videos, keep it up

  • @dashr.4649
    @dashr.4649 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    U had me til u said Tyrion was different from the other Lannister’s. He’s exactly the same. Him meeting Dany gave him purpose? No being hand to the King gave him purpose which he discovered when he was hand to Joffrey. Jamie also believed in something greater than himself. Honor. Cersei’s love for her children was greater than herself. Unfortunately she lost that.

    • @legrandliseurtri7495
      @legrandliseurtri7495 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Nah. Cersei was almost as narcissic than her father. She only trully cares about herself.

  • @Paarl871
    @Paarl871 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Can you imagine how unstoppable the Lannisters would be if they actually got along?

  • @romeblanchard3419
    @romeblanchard3419 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love this channel, great content!

  • @ciaranspiano
    @ciaranspiano 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I really like pretty much all of your videos

  • @chethans3167
    @chethans3167 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Lannisters are the most interesting house... At least for me....

  • @pastelmermage8883
    @pastelmermage8883 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The Lannister’s remind me of the Medici’s. Known for their vast wealth and pride, and how both would be wielded to temper their enemies. They both also gained power by marrying into nobility. Cersei is also very clearly. Cathrine de Medici

  • @obedientconsumer5056
    @obedientconsumer5056 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi. Just subscribed to your channel the other day, really enjoying your content. Keep up the good work girls!

  • @MichaelHolmgaard
    @MichaelHolmgaard 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This is why house Lannister is my favorit. They are very complex characters, and they are the ones keeping the show interesting. They pretty much represents what GoT is all about, the conflict within yourself etc -Jaime FTW! :D

  • @LM-et6yt
    @LM-et6yt 7 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    (sees this video)
    (silently mouths "yaas kween")

  • @raze956
    @raze956 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    "no animal on earth can rival the lion"
    there are some, and if we include other biomes like jungle etc it will get even worse. no fancy dragons needed.

  • @assadarlingtoni
    @assadarlingtoni 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    They are such good character, especially Cersei and Tywin

  • @deividchg
    @deividchg 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Those videos are awesome! So smart

  • @samowen7189
    @samowen7189 6 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Can they do a Clegane one, I know that there’s not much about them but it’d be awesome. For the chickens

  • @averongodoffire7344
    @averongodoffire7344 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    The Lannisters wished to be mufasa but ended up being scar

  • @connorhadley9028
    @connorhadley9028 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    These are so great!
    I would love if you re made these now that the series has finished 😆

  • @adificationss
    @adificationss 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hope this channel gets big!

  • @ww-zb7qn
    @ww-zb7qn 7 ปีที่แล้ว +54

    no animal can top a lion
    I would bet my life a bear would fuck up lion hella bad

    • @ww-zb7qn
      @ww-zb7qn 7 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      one on one the lion is getting raped

    • @bighands69
      @bighands69 7 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Bears have been known to run away from all types of animals in fights.

    • @ww-zb7qn
      @ww-zb7qn 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      a tiger would rape a lion and a bear would rape a tiger

    • @ww-zb7qn
      @ww-zb7qn 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      well if the tiger did manage to get on the bears back and like sever the spinal cord mybe

    • @alecbernal3824
      @alecbernal3824 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes, the jury is in on that topic already. The larger bear species are superior fighters to big cats due to sheer size and the ability to fight bipedally.

  • @markb7913
    @markb7913 7 ปีที่แล้ว +41

    not royalty? they were kings for thousands of years

    • @slugged5109
      @slugged5109 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Grayice 666 when?

    • @RayanS93
      @RayanS93 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      PanCake Theif Before the Targaryen invasion

    • @malenasander7906
      @malenasander7906 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The Family that holds the throne is Royalty. The Throne was hold by the Baratheons now after the death of Tommen and Cersei as Queen the Lannisters are Royalty

  • @jaymichelle8357
    @jaymichelle8357 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love these love plz do more houses!! 🙌🏽💯💜☺️

  • @jessicav931
    @jessicav931 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    How you think the familly would be if the mother would survive to Tyron being born? She sounds kind in the books, the only woman Tywin loves (beside his own mother). She knew about the incest thing and put the dorms of the siblings away and also she was triying to marry her kids to the Dorne House. I think her present would make her house more like the Tyrells, in the meaning of a strong family that support each other.

  • @ditach3693
    @ditach3693 6 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Pity you don't take the other Lannisters like Kevan and Lancel into account.

  • @OceanHedgehog
    @OceanHedgehog 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Tommen and Myrcella, not Tyrion, are the atypical Lannisters. Tommen wants to uplift the people, and Myrcella wants to find love. Tyrion is still very much driven by ego and greed, just of a different kind. Tyrion has spent his entire life seeking validation from his family, which is why he's so close to Jaime. Jaime, on the other hand, has never desired to be anything more than a great warrior; Tommen and Myrcella inherit this lack of financial desire from their father. Tyrion is most similar to Tywin, which is partly why Tywin hates him so much.

  • @alisonmorton9465
    @alisonmorton9465 ปีที่แล้ว

    I loved Charles Dance. He was great. One of my favorites.

  • @YoutubeGirlie
    @YoutubeGirlie 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    You guys should do a lead up to Season 8, to get us through the long night. Your content is amazing!!

  • @noveseth2863
    @noveseth2863 7 ปีที่แล้ว +149

    I would proudly fight under the Lannister banner. Or is it just me?

    • @Ari33sa
      @Ari33sa 7 ปีที่แล้ว +35

      no me too... bet they pay best.

    • @collinhelm8209
      @collinhelm8209 7 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      I will fight for queen Cersi

    • @ZeriocTheTank
      @ZeriocTheTank 7 ปีที่แล้ว +38

      Nove Seth Where have you all been? I felt I was the only one under the Lannister banner. It seems like everyone is siding with that dragon bitch or that bastard in the north.

    • @noveseth2863
      @noveseth2863 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      ZeriocTheTank Fuck yeah house Lannister

    • @royhaile2057
      @royhaile2057 6 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      yeah ,fuck the Lannisters , Dany,Jon, and Tyrion Targaryen got this shit , the Dragon will eat the lion alive