I'm glad you've decided to give yourself a break and simply upload regular Fire Emblem gameplay over some crazy challenge using a difficult unit. This montage is giving me great flashbacks of my own January. Time flies. Elder enthusiasts eating good tonight.
ignoreing... this calling a jeagen bad is like calling your mom bad because she "falls off" in the late game like bro she took care of you when you at your weakest show some respect
Fun video. I really disagree with anyone putting Vander bottom tier, even if he only contributes to the early maps in an "efficient" playthrough, thats better than being bad throughout the game.
Even if he’s not a great combat unit past Ch5, his high HP pool makes him a very good unit in taking hits to be healed by Micaiah Great Sacrifices or group Mends, and so he does help to provide exp to other units. He’s the only solid axe unit who can be broken in early game and so is great at baiting sword breaks immediately through to at least Ch10 whereas Bouch is just too weak without a training arc, Jade can’t be broken and other axe users need second seals/master seals to exist at a point where they’re scarce. He’s also a early promoted unit who can be second sealed into Griffin or Royal Knight for extra high move staff bot duties without needing a master seal, which can situationally make him a valuable support unit on teams where second seals aren’t in high demand, such as if using a ton of the royals who mostly want to stay in their unique classes. Also old man is funny,
He's not an insanely powerful unit that keeps up like Titania or Seth, but he provides what only Louis gives you within the first chapters, which is a front line damage soak and damage dealer. Without Vander you're in for a terrible time on the highest difficulty. He weakens foes down and can tank the blunt force of a loaded enemy phase which is super helpful early on where you don't have access to broken Emblems yet.
Honestly vander perfectly fits the “crutch character” idea that jagens are “supposed” to be. He’s a bulky unit for new players to rely on but as players get better they’ll lean on him less in favour of other units (and by other units I mean Chloe). I just wish his hitrates were better and his personal didn’t make him more likely to steal kills.
Unironically this was similar to my experience using Vander. Decided to give the dude a try, slapped Hector on him, gave him Starphere and used Legacy for a boost to Arena exp since he gets normal arena exp and more with that, then Canter for normal maps, and he was just as good as the other units I did that with. He even looks slick as hell engaged with Hector, so I like using the guy.
Before you ask: I am sure the devs are actually at the wisest when designing this Jagen archetype character. The manage to figure out how to make a "well-balanced" Jagen archetype character here in mind when "tanks enemies and nearly ORKOs them so that your weaker units can killsteal for EXP" thing factored. Vander might have low growths but he does maybe possibly catch up if you give him a lot of skrimsh exp later on. His growths are at least not exaggeratedly bad like the early FE games' Jagen archetypes. In fact, Vander is actually built perfectly for a Jagen type character: his stat build is so bulky. Boost his Def, Res and HP more, and he will survive attacks you think he can't otherwise. He's not speedy, but he will hit like a truck with Silver Greataxe.
Making him as Great Knight and pair him with Ike Ring, along the Anti-Follow up attack skill is like making a Walking Fortress with Hard Counter. Vander never be benched on my playthrough xD
I found Vander very useful as a tank after I gave him a dawn engraved iron greataxe, so it's cool to see that pushing that idea further works even better. That Ike montage was worth the buildup
Super super impressive video as always but like the most impressive thing to me is that you kept him paladin the whole time i went in expecting a switch to warrior or maybe wyvern but holy shit that was phenomenal
Trying this without dlc and using Great Knight Vander instead My guy is still slaying, right now he can oneshot Griss' entire team in ch17. Never Slander the Vander
Of course one of my favorite characters in Engage would be a Jagen in one of the worst possible games for Jagens. Still love him to death, I’ll make to sure to give him a good build in Heroes when he is released and in Engage if I buy the game.
That was an INSANE video, jeez, he could tank crits just like Brom ! Honestly, it's also funny t osee that you almost managed to recreate the trailer moment where he crits....or maybe it's scripted I dunno? Or that random dude getting 2 23% crit Also emblems are really busted, also is it me or it's the second time some manages to get Aether and rekt everyone ? (we don't forget Roderick here)
Dude your savs bugged it says paladin when he's a general. Taking 1 x 9 like it's nothing. Oh its double bugged since he is getting more crits than a berserker.
vander is not a bad unit per se i think if he is so low in the tier list it is because he is a very good tank at the beginning but he will be replaced and when we try to play him again it will be less strong
Not to be rude or anything, very impressive that you made him work, but isn’t this just putting a lot of effort into something other units can do better and with less effort…?
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Vander being paired with Sigurd despite his old jagen role is a reference to how all Genealogy fans are in retirement homes
Old man voice: piss off
The developer of this game made the Vander unqiue battle convos for Emblem Sigurd and corrupted Lumera just for this video
This is the mission of the stewards
We do not tolerate any _Vander slander_ in this household
The only thing this video is missing is the tier list fading back in at the end with Vander at the very top of S tier.
he really vanded all over those guys
Gunther's legacy lives on.
Seeing THE Vander take only 4 damage from Sombrero's AoE while everyone else took lime 20-40 damage got me good lmao.
I like Vander a lot too. He's a good argument for "HP is the best stat" and he's got like 94 of it in my file
When we needed him most, he returned.
Jagens never fall off, it's a skill issue.
my favorite part of Engage maddening is figuring out ways for Alear to feed kills to Vander
Old Man with a Comically Large Axe gameplay
Least Cracked Silver Greataxe User:
Vander content with Knights of Cydonia playing in the background? Can I like a video more than once?
I'm glad you've decided to give yourself a break and simply upload regular Fire Emblem gameplay over some crazy challenge using a difficult unit. This montage is giving me great flashbacks of my own January. Time flies. Elder enthusiasts eating good tonight.
This was inevitable since everyone started trashing on Vander
average vander constitution enjoyer
Seeing Vander do well especially in Maddening is amazing, i used Vander as my Enchanter for my savefile
ignoreing... this calling a jeagen bad is like calling your mom bad because she "falls off" in the late game like bro she took care of you when you at your weakest show some respect
damn he didn’t even need lyn
Vander the Demander asks you nicely to not bench him. These are the results.
I love Vander
He is a good unit with the feeling of bad unit. It's a good unit as a Jagen but its fun training as a bad growth unit lmao
Fun video. I really disagree with anyone putting Vander bottom tier, even if he only contributes to the early maps in an "efficient" playthrough, thats better than being bad throughout the game.
Even if he’s not a great combat unit past Ch5, his high HP pool makes him a very good unit in taking hits to be healed by Micaiah Great Sacrifices or group Mends, and so he does help to provide exp to other units. He’s the only solid axe unit who can be broken in early game and so is great at baiting sword breaks immediately through to at least Ch10 whereas Bouch is just too weak without a training arc, Jade can’t be broken and other axe users need second seals/master seals to exist at a point where they’re scarce. He’s also a early promoted unit who can be second sealed into Griffin or Royal Knight for extra high move staff bot duties without needing a master seal, which can situationally make him a valuable support unit on teams where second seals aren’t in high demand, such as if using a ton of the royals who mostly want to stay in their unique classes.
Also old man is funny,
Not only do we share our love of Bord, but also our favorite unit in fe17.
He's not an insanely powerful unit that keeps up like Titania or Seth, but he provides what only Louis gives you within the first chapters, which is a front line damage soak and damage dealer.
Without Vander you're in for a terrible time on the highest difficulty. He weakens foes down and can tank the blunt force of a loaded enemy phase which is super helpful early on where you don't have access to broken Emblems yet.
Finally, the Vander sweep is upon us
When the world needed him most, he returned..
It makes me happy to see people still play this game even with how much everyone complains about it.
It's the story and writing people didn't like. The actual moment to moment gameplay is easily some of the best in the series.
Jagens fans rise up
The great aether compilation is unironically one of the hardest things I’ve seen come out of this game. Fantastic work as always
I had a blast with it haha, glad you enjoyed.
I thought you were going to make Vander a hero build with dual assist + but congrats on making Vander an actual combat unit!!
Honestly vander perfectly fits the “crutch character” idea that jagens are “supposed” to be. He’s a bulky unit for new players to rely on but as players get better they’ll lean on him less in favour of other units (and by other units I mean Chloe). I just wish his hitrates were better and his personal didn’t make him more likely to steal kills.
Unironically this was similar to my experience using Vander. Decided to give the dude a try, slapped Hector on him, gave him Starphere and used Legacy for a boost to Arena exp since he gets normal arena exp and more with that, then Canter for normal maps, and he was just as good as the other units I did that with. He even looks slick as hell engaged with Hector, so I like using the guy.
I know this video was about Vander and I digged it, but need to know about this Halberdier Yunaka
It would seem that someone hacked their insulin regulator.
Knights of Cydonia works so well! Great video as always
Maybe he's not the best unit, but man is it fun to make him op and watch everyone drop against him :D
Before you ask: I am sure the devs are actually at the wisest when designing this Jagen archetype character. The manage to figure out how to make a "well-balanced" Jagen archetype character here in mind when "tanks enemies and nearly ORKOs them so that your weaker units can killsteal for EXP" thing factored.
Vander might have low growths but he does maybe possibly catch up if you give him a lot of skrimsh exp later on. His growths are at least not exaggeratedly bad like the early FE games' Jagen archetypes.
In fact, Vander is actually built perfectly for a Jagen type character: his stat build is so bulky.
Boost his Def, Res and HP more, and he will survive attacks you think he can't otherwise.
He's not speedy, but he will hit like a truck with Silver Greataxe.
Making him as Great Knight and pair him with Ike Ring, along the Anti-Follow up attack skill is like making a Walking Fortress with Hard Counter.
Vander never be benched on my playthrough xD
Heck yeah! Love to see someone using the DILF!
You crazy son of a
you did it :)
Thanks for reminding me how much fun this game was. Banger video as always
Exquisite taste in music and units, as always.
my beloved
Zased beyond belief
My Vander is now Enchanter, somehow he has great crit chance and quads a lot
He couldn't even one round the first enemy's in the game. One of the jagens of all time
Great Knight will do the trick and make sure he is deployed during skirmish since it’s scaled at high level than chapters
first time ive ever seen vander in solm :/
The True Ending has been unlocked >:)
1:02 That's a weird way to spell Vander...
Vander's so good that he don't need experience from kills so he gave that to Bouche
anyway, 40 base hp and base S axes is really good. who knew
I found Vander very useful as a tank after I gave him a dawn engraved iron greataxe, so it's cool to see that pushing that idea further works even better. That Ike montage was worth the buildup
This is literally how I played the game all the way through. I loved Vander too much.
I used vander until chapter 10/11 on maddening lol. he was pretty good, kinda needed a compact axe +2 or 3 tho
PEAK, AS ALWAYS
I turned him into a sage because the outfit looked cute on him. 😊
Vander is not trash tier, of course he will have less stat than other defensive unit in the game but he's still doing good job-
Super super impressive video as always but like the most impressive thing to me is that you kept him paladin the whole time i went in expecting a switch to warrior or maybe wyvern but holy shit that was phenomenal
Vander looking dummy thicc
Honestly if you reclass him back to axe cav amd get him to lv20 and promotes as a normal unit he's better than every horserider and axe user
This was a beautiful video
Trying this without dlc and using Great Knight Vander instead
My guy is still slaying, right now he can oneshot Griss' entire team in ch17. Never Slander the Vander
Of course one of my favorite characters in Engage would be a Jagen in one of the worst possible games for Jagens. Still love him to death, I’ll make to sure to give him a good build in Heroes when he is released and in Engage if I buy the game.
Hell yeah old man gaming
That was an INSANE video, jeez, he could tank crits just like Brom !
Honestly, it's also funny t osee that you almost managed to recreate the trailer moment where he crits....or maybe it's scripted I dunno? Or that random dude getting 2 23% crit
Also emblems are really busted, also is it me or it's the second time some manages to get Aether and rekt everyone ? (we don't forget Roderick here)
what godawful tierlist at the start is putting Anna in A tier?
In his defense, this tier list was put out like right when the game came out, he has done multiple since then and his opinions could have changed.
Dude your savs bugged it says paladin when he's a general. Taking 1 x 9 like it's nothing. Oh its double bugged since he is getting more crits than a berserker.
vander is not a bad unit per se i think if he is so low in the tier list it is because he is a very good tank at the beginning but he will be replaced and when we try to play him again it will be less strong
"I SHALL SLAY YOU!"
Probably my favorite crit quote in the game. Way better than the classic "Pick a god and pray." IMO.
It's been too long.
How did your Vander become this overpowered?
Not to be rude or anything, very impressive that you made him work, but isn’t this just putting a lot of effort into something other units can do better and with less effort…?
thats literally the point, yes
True, but none of the other units look as or sound as cool as Vander. CHECKMATE!
@@jimmyfe6746 Factually correct.
Vander>Lapis
All jagans can be useful if you put time into them, but that's a waste of time and they're boring characters
Wrong!