Hints at Nate's Past in Fallout 4
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- Hints at Nate's Past in Fallout 4
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Nate married a lawyer to beat the charges. Based.
The Nuka-World dlc makes a lot more sense now
Based
Based
Bruh I’ve seen you on 2 videos now
There would be no crimes he is a Hero
Don't ask what Nate was doing in his deployment during the annexation of Canada.
he was clearing out the maple syrups
He was just raking leaves.
He was Just Raking Leaves
He was never in Canada he was discharged after serving in Anchorage thats what the official report says atleast but we all know his real duty 😉
He was in Alaska, not in Canada.
*"Your honor, my client accidently gave his side arm to his fellow soldier, and he cracked a joke which caused him to shoot at the prisoner on accident. It was all an honest mistake"* [Speech Check]
"[Fail] Mr. Goodman, you honestly think I'm going to believe that?"
You know that shits at least a 75 check
Multiple squads make a platoon. Multiple platoon make a company. Multiple companies make up a battalion. Multiple battalions make up a regiment.
Also, it's more usual to identify your unit in the ascending order i.e. "I'm private Joe Snuffy, A company, 1st battalion, 50th Infantry Regiment".
Someone get in touch with Lt. Hayes in Primm and tell him to unf*ck himself.
And multiple regiments make up an army?
@@alvintollah well a brigade then a division then a corps then a army
@@Mirokuofnite yeah, my guess is the U.S.and NCR armies in Fallout follows that organizational setup. Too bad it's not that easy anymore irl.
A 1000 soldiers is a legion. 100 soldiers is a battalion. 100k soldiers is a army. 1million soldiers is theater
In my mind, it is canonical that Nate the Rake hates synths because he thinks they're all Canadian robots.
Stop. You are gonna make BoS Ending canon.
@@motivateddadit already is (tv show confirmed it)
@@KFC_Managercould be minuteman still
@@Skullhawk13 that's probably the case. minutemen ending just feels right
@@Skullhawk13 that's probably the case. minutemen ending just feels right
Nate committed war crimes on camera in Canada
"Your honor this soldier merely demonstrated his duty for the Vine"
He’s so real for that
In his defense, that Canadian was a suspected communist.
made bro bite the curb and laughed after, Nate was unhinged 💀
Nate the Rake, gunning down all those unarmed Canadian children.
The Head Writer really had some balls to put that into his tripel A game
I still maintain that Nate is the Hero that the Operation Anchorage simulation was originally based upon. It's very common that war heros were/are taken out of active duty service to do speaking tours on behalf of the war effort and Nates scheduled speech and background fits the pattern.
This does make sense.
Medal of Honor recipient too. There is no higher honor in the US military. I love your theory btw
This is a fantastic theory, I can't think of any faults. It makes total sense.
Sorry but emil had singled out that nate was the laughing guy in fo1 intro
@@akifaiman7388 He almost immediately walked that back when he realized how stupid it was. He even said that not everything he says is Canon. He thought it was cool, but everyone hated it so he changed it. The great thing about fiction is that it's not historical fact and just because the lead writer didn't think before he tweeted doesn't mean that it's immediately so.
A good example of this is the fact that one of the worst interpretations of the ending of Blade Runner is from Ridley Scott: the guy who made Blade Runner. Same thing with Paul Verhoven and Starship Troopers.
the Vault-Tec Rep will also say that Nate's family was awarded a spot in Vault 111 due to his exemplary military service, which has lead many to believe, myself included, that Nate is the Hero of Anchorage we are simulated to be in Fallout 3's Operation Anchorage DLC
You just blew my fucken mind
😯 makes so much sense. It would be like them to sneak that in without making it obvious.
I feel like thats fans reaching more so then any part on Bethesdas end
@@sfdfd2 I suppose but I wouldn't put it past Todd
Lmao
No.
nate the rake, the crusher of canada
NATE THE RAKE
bros a war criminal 💀
W Nate😭
Unironically one of bethesda best retcon yet
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Nate the Rake
This video hits different now
Nate The Rake too based to be abducted by commie aliens. They had to take the blondie instead
It makes sense that Nate knows how to use guns, since he’s a veteran. But Nora was a lawyer, how much combat experience could she possibly have?
A military wife ... very possible she and nate went down to the range to shoot
Maybe she hunted as a child?
maybe they went to shooting ranges together for fun
I feel like her backstory should have been her as a police officer
From personal experience, it’s accustom to take women to ranges for personal protection
It's interesting to tie both Nate and Elliot. Given that Nate was back home when we start Fallout 4, perhaps Nate had knowledge of Elliots disappearance given that he was abducted by Aliens. In fact, I wonder if the Aliens we encounter in Fallout 3 and Fallout 4 are from the very same Mothership?
Well a batallion can have 1000s of soldiers they likely didn’t know each other even if they where in the same battalion
Isn't fallout 4 set 10 years after fallout 3? We literally took that mothership over 10 years prior, I don't think we even have a slight inkling of where the ones in 4 come from
@@killerkirby366 Oh yeah, I agree. This is all just speculation from my side but it would be interesting so see if there is a bigger link between Nate and Eliot.
@@NATIVE1179 Fair point. My thinking was that we saw NPC from different timelines in MZ, perhaps there may be a possibility of travel across time. Then again they were frozen so maybe not.
They are the same aliens
This video aged so well
Nate the rake
I can just imagine a conversation between Nate and Elliot that leads to them being drinking buddies for life.
Nate: You were cryogenically frozen for 200 years and served in the army? me too!
Elliot: Yeah but did you kill any aliens when you woke up?
Nate: Actually there was one outside a settlement that needed my help
Elliot: Bro
Nate: Bro
fire comment
I can picture these two actually talking; and if Nate knew Elliot, that’s a cool scene.
This needs more likes.
Somewhere in the game, there is also a microphone that, once activated, has Nate say “war never changes”, indicating that *that* was where he was supposed to give his speech.
That was inside the fraternal outpost building
I always took the Sole Survivor being able to use Power Armor as a reference to Nate having Power Armor Training. Maybe he also showed Nora.
Power Armor training wasn't a thing back in Fallout 1 and 2,even in Fallout 3 or NV it was pretty much a gameplay thing and iirc didn't get mentioned in any of the lore text.
@@giathuanleviet4138, yeah, but there's entire videos, and groups of slow-brains who dedicate hours to solving this "plot hole" not realizing there's no plot hole like this guy pointed out.
What would be the reason for him training his wife to use power armour?
@@Squirty___ For fun. Couples bonding.
@@richardbeaudangles2559 guy? What guy?
I'd like to imagine you play as Nate in fallout 3 through in the Anchorage simulation.
I remember there being a reference to a "Nate" on a pre-war Robco holotype. Nate can also reference a scientist when talking to Supervisor White at Graygarden.
it turned out that nate was a guy from fallout 1 who was laughing from death of canadian partisan
@@frcl6 Apparently I heard Emil actually took back that comment. So don't worry about it. Bit of a lemon move on his part to even say that in the first place.
"We're overjoyed to have such a decorated war hero like Max Chad giving a speech in Concord."
We all need to salute the man, the legend, Max Chad.
Not gonna lie it was very confused at first seeing SchlongEater500 on that terminal
Don't ask what Nate was doing in Canada...
I always thought that playing as Nate meant head on combat, while Nora meant diplomacy and stealth.
Nate The Rake.
I think for how half-minded it was for Emil to make the connection between Nate and the Fallout 1 intro soldier, its even more disappointing to see how far people are just backpedaling on it.
The idea that this idyllic American citizen who secured his family's safety in a vault did so through brutal war crimes genuinely fits the themes and world of Fallout, especially with the fascist reality of immediate pre-war America in the Fallout timeline. And for gods sake it adds the tiniest shred of depth and complexity to mr "Yes Yes Sarcastic Yes No"
Fallout 4 is already lacking in almost any true moral depth, least they could do is add the dark tinge of possibility that youre playing the type of monster who was already completely mentally prepared for this sort of horror in the worst way possible.
Yea i think it gives slight credence to his bland dialog. Like maybe he doesnt have much to say because hes just fucked in the head. Yknow rather than the writers just being lazy pos
Y'all people who speak english and their weird slangs, it makes me more confused
Hell, Nate being a war criminal explains A LOT of things you can do and Nate's responses.
@@Nombrenooriginalpadrino lo dices como si la banda no hablara con palabras inventadas y conjugaciones al revés en español
I might be remembering wrong, but i once saw a note referencing Nora (Nates wife) who is a lawyer doing a defense case for someone in Jamaica plains i think. Like i said, i might be remembering wrong.
My man Nate would make every Serbian proud
🎼 Moj je tata 🎶 zločinac iz rata🎵
I play as Nate Howard
Nate “The Rake” Howard
In one of the early BOS missions Nate can mention that he served in the army
I don’t remember where but in one conversation he can also mention having a CO. I think it was in the Institute.
The robot from the flying pirate ship that’s on the ground will recognize Nate’s military record
Their motto is "Virtue non-Verbis"
By Valor Not Words whitch is interesting for a fallout game. Especially for 4 seeing as this game has more of a gun play focus but a voiced character.
NATE THE RAKE 🗣️🗣️
The 108th Infantry Regiment is a real organization, a New York National Guard unit originally formed to fight the Spanish-American War and currently part of the 27th Infantry Brigade, which is itself part of the 42nd Infantry Division. The "108th Infantry Battalion", however, is not; the US Army has never used independent battalions. Battalions are always the 1st, 2nd, 3rd, et cetera, of a larger unit such as a regiment. There has never been a US regiment which had a "108th" battalion.
Canada, however, DID field a "108th Infantry Battalion" during World War One, formed from recruits from Selkirk and Manitoba. Given that the US had annexed Canada sometime during the Sino-American War, perhaps THIS is the origin of Elliot's unit - a Canadian force which had been integrated into the US military and which would therefore identify itself as such.
Honestly I really think that Nate is the soldier from the Anchorage simulation in fallout 3. I think he’s the one that blew up all those Chinese outposts in Anchorage. That would explain his ceremony at the veterans hall in Concord. That would be a really cool connection to the third game. Plus that would mean he has experience fighting enemies that use cloaking technology(stealth boys). He took down those stealth chinese soldiers and that means he’s fully prepared to take down an Institute courser.
Can we take a second to appreciate the fact that Nora’s first speaking line, directed at her veteran husband who’s preparing for a speech in front of other war scarred veterans about how scared he is of war breaking out again and people dying, is:
"You’re going to *KNOCK THEM DEAD* at the Veteran’s Hall tonight, hun."
This woman is a *_Lawyer_* ffs. Handling sensitive topics and choosing the right words is part of what she does for a living.
If you ever wanted an excuse to install coomer mods, here it is, cause he sure as hell didn’t marry her for her smarts.
Those Luck 10 Intelligence 1 Idiot Savant builds are also canon now.
He was a war criminal 😱
Coming back to this Emil has said that Nate is the soldier in fallout 1 where they are shooting the guy and Nate is the one laughing at the execution.
I miss the “get fucked” outro :(
I still don't understand why they bothered to give them different backgrounds. They could've easely just have them be a military couple that met in a squad exercise or something. That way there's no need for an explanation why Nora knows everything a war veteran knows, since she whould be one herself.
So if that speech was there in the computer from before the bombs fell and it was not until much later that the institute perfected the Gen 3 synths wouldn't this be proof that Nate was a real person and not a synth especially since the Robot recognized him and pulled his records?
@Erisa liani address the question, Erisa
While this is all fine and dandy, it really takes out the RPG element, since “Nate” always had a backstory.
Listen I'm not trying to start a war or anything but New Vegas kinda took out a bit of their RPG element since the courier already has a backstory, being a mailman and all. But what do I know, I only played new Vegas 1 time and it was amazing lol.
@@thehoarde2127 I see what you are trying to say, however the ONLY thing we know about the courier is that is you have send to deliver a package to New Vegas. With FNV, you can be any type of character. It doesn’t say what you did before. It leaves it open to the player, unlike FO4, where you already know where you come from.
@@kalanlancaster6362 Very true!
Luckily on PC there's multiple mods to remove any backstory.
@@Mad-rg9sz Yes of course, sadly though for me, I only have a ps4, but I have some good mods installed!
It's neat and all but the mental gymnastics I have to do to make my 'Nora' go from Lawyer and mom to raider queen of Nuka World and romancing all the cast the game allows is ugh. Just makes my brain hurt. I guess Pre-War Fallout Lawyers are also trained to be sneaky assassins.
Sigh, can the next Fallout title leave the character background a little more open ended please?
Vault-Tec rep said due to your family’s service to our country. Layer may just be a cover story for an intelligence officer.
I get Bethesda likes these grand, epic tales but it really killed the role playing experience by filling in so much of Nate/Nora's backgrounds. Could have worked if you could choose Nate's particular military training (demolitions, sniper, special ops, power armor division, etc) to determine his skillset but where's that leave Nora?
Why would someone with a law degree know how to spool up a minigun, nevermind fire one? "Oh, Nate showed me." Really? He'd go into explicit detail on how to operate military hardware on one of your romantic trysts?
It just doesn't make sense to define so much of your RPG character's history when it doesn't determine any SPECIAL or skills and impacts the story so little.
Idk, my ex told me she loved when I'd go on rants about guns and how they operate. I loved when she went on rants about bands she listened to and the musicians lives, if you really love someone then you'll enjoy when they're passionate about something and want want tell you about it
Good story, bad fallout game
Clearly you have never been to Las Vegas if you don’t know how to use a mini gun
Nate was a soldier, Nora was a lawyer.
"Why did Bethesda give them so much backstory?!?!?!"
@@cowerdnerddespacito9518 this is facts....as the shooter using ar-15's was literally impossible and has been debunked
Hey, I have an interesting one. The Chem boxes are the same size and shape as the first aid kits. I always figured someone was painting them post war but the fact that they had no variation confused me. Until I found the stash of first aid kits being painted yellow in the boston mayoral shelter in the area before the security gate (I think). I assume it must have been part of Red Tourrette's side hustles, but I have no evidence to support that. I'm not sure if you covered it on this channel already, and maybe it was obvious to other players but I totally missed it until recently.
Yah I recall seeing cans of yellow pain with first aid kits and chem boxes in the same area, which basically confirms all chem boxes are just painted first aid kits.
Having a prescripted backstory doesn't work for characters with settable stats at the beginning of the game. If Nora were a competent lawyer, how can I set her intelligence, charisma, and luck stats to 1 when creating her character?
New Vegas got around this by creating a blank slate in the courier, but even that doesn't work in all cases. A successful courier would probably have high endurance and some specialized skills for making long treks across the desert, but you could still turn them into a high intelligence science geek with no physical attributes to speak of.
Something interesting that Bethesda could have done was to create specialized backstories for every combination of SPECIAL stats. If they could record specific dialogue for Codsworth to a couple hundred different names, they could put in a couple dozen different occupations as a line of dialogue as well.
Split your points evenly across all of the physical stats and you're a soldier, but drop a couple of those points into charisma and you become a police officer. Max out your charisma and you become a lounge singer, but put a couple of those points into perception and you become a car salesman. Go further and split points evenly between intelligence and charisma and you become a lawyer. It would have been fun to see what characters you could come up with. If nothing else, the novelty of it would have lasted about as long as it did to hear Codsworth say your name.
Fallout 3 probably did it best, since you start the game when you're born. The only backstory is that you've lived your life so far in Vault 101.
You could argue that getting shot in the head tweaked some of your stats, so you can give more leeway to the plausibility of certain stats not being commensurate with being a courier.
You need to watch some trial videos. A lot of lawyers out there with low intelligence and no charisma.
You wouldn't believe how big of a fit new vegas fanboys would have if that was implemented, would ruin the "roleplay" (murderhoboing)
Also anyone could sign up for a courier job(even just temporary), get payed to take a package somewhere and then chill or whatever the reason is
Going off your stat=career backstory, I imagine depending on how you level up intelligence you could easily change from a soldier to a boxer/prize fighter.
If you go talk to the guy who gives the Silver Shroud quest, he let's you remember memories that prove you aren't a synth. You remember, before the war, the release of episodes of the silver shroud on the radio. And listening with your family
0:24 wait, that’s Nate?
Yes? Hes litterally talking about serving in that point of the intro
@@disillusionedrightest7313 I didn’t really concentrate while watching the intro movie
It has been customary in times of war to expand a battalion to regiment size and keeping the lineage designation (108th in this case) or to reduce the unit in peace time and retain said designation when downgrading from regimental to battalion size. It makes sense that the 108th Infantry Battalion would be expanded as the Resource Wars demanded more manpower. In such case, the 108th battalion would become the 1st Battalion of the 108th Infantry Regiment (to retain the lineage) while adding more battalions made up of new recruits.
The backstory doesn't bother me a whole lot, and though I do like leaving it open, this could be better than that if it was taken seriously and done meticulously to cover a wide range of options.
On Nora though, that doesn't really bother me either because I thought the whole concept of perks and leveling throughout the Fallout series was the idea of you "getting better" despite lacking prior experience and skillset. The Wasteland was training you so-to-speak. Which is why two Vault Dwellers and a Caveman dude were able to outgun entire organizations by certain points. They don't leave much open-ended either, and nobody complains about them because I feel like people target FO4 for everything lol There's only just a little left imagination room here than every other entry in the franchise, except for FO:NV and the Legend it is.
Bro's first canon line: hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahh
Elliot chick isnt she technically alive in nates time or maybe the 210 years he was frozen
love your videos dude keep going ❤️
Emil...Based?
A rare one indeed
yeah, subtlety was something that title almost entirely lacked
Never change the Fisto outro 😂
Nate is also the hard canon main character. But that's well known.
Maybe...you'll think of me..."
Nora: Oh honey, thank you for raking up the leaves.
Nate: My pleasure, this and that song, really reminds me of some good times.
I like this little details in Fallout 4
Would've been cool for a majority of military robots to scan your military background and not fire on you. Would've also been interesting to see how NPCs respond to it kinda like the salvages by the crashed ship haha
I think there is a microphone somewhere where when you interact with it nate gives a small version of the speech. Idk what iheard this years ago not really sure
Yeah it's at the building mentioned at 1:55 Pretty sure he just says War never changes or something like that.
I appreciate the change to your outro, definitely monetization friendly!
In Fallout New Vegas Ranger Morales still blinks inspite of being dead I recently found that out when I was saving his corpse in my current playthrough. You might of already known this just figured I'd bring it up. Also great video like always.
Lmao! When you mention the terminal listing whatever name the player chooses and you have the name, "Max Chad" written down hahahaha.
0:55 AMOGUS
There is a personal theory that Nate is the memory you relive in the Operation Anchorage DLC in Fo3.
Lmao i love the endeing quote "The mo' you know" i thought i was the only one who said it
I even known what Nate is wearing and what weapon he is wielding in the trailer
Sturdy Combat Boots
Combat Chest
Combat Helmet
Heavy Combat Arms
Army Fatigues
Small Scoped Laser Rifle with a Beam Splitter mod.
And T-51b in Canada.
if you look hard enough you can even find a baby in their house
Emil really just wanted to boost those numbers
I also saw a terminal in a military building where the speech and your custom name are mentioned
Enjoy that headset , Mantis .
Infantry are only organized under regiments. For example my unit is 2nd battalion, 501st Parachute Infantry Regiment, 1st Brigade Combat Team, 82nd Airborne Division
Bruh Bethesda was like fuck it.
That's why Bethesda never understood Fallout, New Vegas is King
Wouldve worked better if the characters were introduced as having realized they signed up for a vault spot a while ago but were distracted by their jobs (which you could then pick). The nukes drop, and one of them remembers the entry ticket, before getting into the vault. Story proceeds as usual from there
One thing I read is that in Fallout 4, you get more health back from blood packets than in other games, because here Nate has the experience to do a blood transfusion properly, and perhaps so does Nora, while both Lone Wanderer and Courier just straight up drinks it and gets less benefits, unless certain effects are applied. You can even hear the difference in both games, where in Fo3 you hear a gulping sound while in 4 it's more a rustling plastic
Despite the situation with the backstory of the main character, it's still cool to see Fallout 4 with Fallout 1 music in this video.
Love ya bro
I assume when the guy said 108th Infantry Battalion, he meant “infantry battalion of 108th regiment”
confirmed based and confirmed war criminal, well done emil
I only do the main quests until the brotherhood of steel arrives, then I just run around doing random stuff and exploring
"This doesn't mean that they met each other."
But....man, that would be killer if you could.
A D.L.C. (if you're playing Nate that is) where you hear of news of alien activity, remembering your own encounter, venture to Washington D.C., and get beamed up to the ship, and meet your old (technically 'biologically' still young) war buddy.
.....
I actually want to see that now.
It's weird seeing Nate talk and not look like Al Chestbreach.
You left out that if you go to the veterans hall and go up to the mic, Nate or Nora will say into it: "war never changes"
his first power armor is “maybe” t-51 power armor
best fallout youtuber
You need to check out an Army organizational chart or something.
Flickering fences!
If he is a war criminal, then joining the Minutemen is just the better for him imo, since he can like redeem himself through that. I'm not saying he is, but think about this, he is also human with flaws, I know being a war criminal is not something can be forgiven but the guy could also have something that troubled him as a person. But when he met Nora, he developed, he wanted to start again then the bombs dropped. He is angry he either joins the Minutemen to remember how his wife gave him a second chance or the Raiders where he can commit as much astrocities as he did before.
As for Nora, I want to think that she knew that Nate was a war criminal. But he gave him a second chance since she fell in love with the guy.
Sound like Joshua Graham, the play can choose to decide if the Minuteman will become a benevolent protector or a dictatorship.
I don't know if it's just me, but I like to think that the perks having to do with doing more gun damage is a lot like learning how to use the guns better, and in that regard, I actually withhold from leveling those perks until I have with me companions that best fit the perks.
So here's what I mean:
1. Starting off, I actually level up my pistol damage because I like to think that Nate, being a US Vet, taught Nora to shoot and therefore she knows how to handle a pistol at least
2. For rifles, I like to roll with McCready, since he's known to be a rifleman merc. With him also, I level up my sniper & sniping related perks as well
3. For automatics & heavy guns, I level up with Danse because he's a true soldier
4. With lasers, I roll with X6
So yeah, that's how I do it tbh
Speaking of mother ship zeta I hope in the next game for a expansion or side series of quests maybe they bring back the crew that took over the alien ship and we help them do stuff and are able to explore the ship and stuff.
the sole survivor has always been a weird protagonist to me as in canon their names are already established and it seems as if nate is the leaned to canon protagonist and it all seems like it’s not like an RPG choose your own adventure based story, with the names child heading the institute and the army thing, it’s like they want to set up Nate to be established for a future role in the series or something
Lacking in the main quest? If you pull it off just right, you can cram in a set list of faction quests that result in only the destruction of the Institute, thus creating a pseudo-alliance between the Railroad, BoS, and Minutemen, making it seem as though they were also part of the over-arching objective, since you'll need to pick one anyway.
I think I preferred Motor Runner's "Get F***ed" outro over Fisto's "Assume the position"
2:04 "subtle?" The game just tells you that he was in the military.
1:56 >Max Chad
Mantis real name reveal???
I'm sitting on the loo and just took the stinkiest crap
Video or it never happened
@@wesss9353 video doesn't show smell
@@SexyPug I'm sure you would have been choking on the smell of it.
I feel like Nate would be a cannon sole survivor
This is John Fallout, who is Nate?