The holotape reminder was the "Hi Honey!" Holotape Codsworth gives you at the start of the game. He tells you he thinks it was supposed to be a surprise from Nora. I could be wrong
NEED TO FIND MY SON. Holdup lets build settlements, go to far harbor, become the overboss, and help my companions with their personal issues first.......Shaun who?
I just sort of role played like Shaun didn’t exist, like I’m just a random guy that got out of the vault. I used console commands to skip the main missions.
Ikr. It is really sad that we could not decide our spouse fate later in game. Imagine if we could later decide Nora's fate later in game. I mean in somepoint on Main questline your enemy faction attacks your settlement where Nora is and you can either choose to complete quest that somehow influence end game decision or try to save your spouse that also have some influence to end game decision....
I know there's a mod to have your spouse as a companion, but I wish it was canon. And that would be great if you had to make a choice between saving your spouse or the quest.
"I'll get Shaun back, I promise..." Proceeds to loot every desk fan and roll of duct tape in the Commonwealth to build the perfect vacation home on Spectacle Island
Of course Nora would use Nate's lines at the 115 podium. She is honoring her dead husband's memory by using the words that he was to say at that gathering.
Well, considering she knows how to use weapons and armor, my guess would be Nate and Nora met in the Service and Nora got her degree through Military Scholarship while Nate enlisted for another tour of duty
Yes Shaun put that pack of cigarettes there on the table those damn tobacco companies just keep trying to market their products to younger and younger demographics every day now even babies smoke well shit....
What's pretty great is the nora companion mod. Yes it basically ruins the concept of romancing the companions out there but just feels great going out into the wasteland as a couple to kick ass and get back your son.
@@Dirtbag-Hyena Fun? That glitch factory fuckup is your idea of fun? You need help. If 76 is today's Fallout fandom's idea of fun then it's truly sad how far the franchise has fallen.
"I need to find Shaun!" And then comes a distant voice: "There's settlement that needs your help, I'll mark it on you map." "I already forgot who Shaun was."
@@CaptFordo-zp4nl Nah, she did not demand to see anyone's manager, plus, a Karen would NEVER be as unselfish as my SS. lol Not once in game did the SS EVER use her kid to get what she wanted from those in charge. A Karen would not be willing to become a bullet sponge to get their kid back. They'd let OTHER people do that for them and they would STILL demand the poor bastards they used compensate THEM for supposedly traumatizing their shitty kid who couldn't be any more oblivious to what was going on around them. So you see, it's not even close.
In my game Nate adopts a new identity Damien De Sardet. Whatever he was before that is gone. All that's left is a vicious mercenary. He aligns with the minutemen and the railroad. Every other faction is a temporary alliance. Outside those two main factions he's willing to take most jobs. Only after squeezing the cilent for every cap they have. His viciousness really comes out against Gunner, ferals, mutants and raiders. As a melee focused character. He quiet literally rips them to pieces. It honestly feels like the good guys use him as an attack dog. Instead of dealing with problems that would spoil the reputation of the minutemen. Preston sends him to do the dirty work. De Sardet goes along with it sense he's still in the anger stage of grief. So i guess you could say his idea of therapy is different.
Me in 2077 sitting in a rocking chair looking into the distance: War....... War never changes. My whole family including the deceased: STOP QUOTING THAT STUPID FALLOUT GAME
I hope I live to 23rd of October 2077 just so I get to say war never changes at exactly the time of the Great War no matter where I am or what im doing
It's crazy how In a very short cutscene that I've played a handful of times you still show me things I missed. Never knew they had a dog, but lost it. Super sad, but makes dogmeat make complete sense. A human out of a vault, alone all but a robot. Seeing a dog would break either of their hearts, and I think they'd feel strongly inclined to "adopt" dogmeat.
+Adrian Valistar. idk about ghoulified, those mongrels out in the wastes are ghoulifed and they are grotesque. dogmeat i think is a mostly un-mutated dog but a dog who's ancestors evolved radiation resistance/immunity since the bombs fell, or were already immune to radiation and their breed survived the apocalypse practically untouched.
I would be remiss if I didn't point out that Nate complains that Codsworth draws his bath too cold, despite the house of tomorrow not having a bathtub, only a shower.
@@DidierWierdsma6335 Honestly, Nate and Nora would be such a wasteland power couple! As a Veteran, Nate would be the perfect fit for General of the Minutemen, while Nora's law degree would equip her to help establish and mediate a new Commonwealth Provisional Government.
If Vault 111 didn't let the scientist go to asshole-ville, then many of the residents of Sanctuary Hills would probably establish something akin to Vault City or Shady Sands, Nate would do his early career as a caravan guard and probably teach his son to trick and rehabilitate the Institute into a more sane-er and humane society, as Director.
I think the shaun costume thing is foreshadowing how the player may see shaun, either someone who enforces law and justice and keep people safe or someone evil who can't be trusted
My wife is an amazing artist, so when we got this game she made a close replica of my face for Nate, and then I played through the game as, essentially, myself. With headphones on (and a little THC) it was the single most immersive gaming experience I'd ever had, which was both a good thing and a bad thing. I found myself making a number of Faustian bargains to get Shaun back, including temporarily joining the Brotherhood of Steel so I could get Power Armor and survive the Glowing Sea. However, the moment I heard Maxson talking about ethnic cleansing I tossed a grenade and fled from there as quickly as I could, leaving him dead. Upon my arrival at the Institute, I sided with them without a second thought. Shaun was my son, and we were going to be a family again, no matter how strange it was that he was older than me and so distant. I even executed the Railroad for him. My gosh! My old son looked so much like my grandfather, whom I had also lost to cancer. It was after discovering that he was dying that I re-thought everything. The Institute had all this wonderful technology, even capable of allowing Kellogg to live far beyond a normal human lifespan, but they hadn't found a way to cure cancer? As far as I was concerned, Shaun was still a prisoner of the Institute, even as its director. He'd just been so brain-washed by them by now that he couldn't escape anymore, even if he wanted to. So, I turned to the Minutemen for help, and together we destroyed the Institute. After we destroyed the Institute, I found that Shaun had given me a synth copy of himself. This was not the same as having Shaun back, but having lost a child in real life, a daughter, I knew I was the type of person to take whatever I could get. So, I brought him back to the Castle with me. But the Brotherhood still remained, with their talks of ethnic cleansing of the synths, and the closest thing I had to a son now was the young synth called Shaun. So, I fought the Brotherhood alongside the Minutement. We destroyed their airship, and won the intense battle that ensued. With them gone, the Commonwealth was as safe as I could make it for synth Shaun. War never changes itself, but it changes you. You find yourself coming back from it, and everything is different than it was before. Perhaps its foolish to say war never changes. War changes everything.
Fuck. Damn dude this kinda makes me mad. Your story is great, and I was trying to do something similar. But I look somewhat like default Nate, so I didn’t spend too much time on his face, and his eyes are virtually the same as default Nate. I don’t really feel like I’m playing me, and because of that, my decisions have been different. I think when I log back in, I’ll make a save and sit down with the plastic surgeon for a few hours and perfect it. I’m also going to progressively change my character, adding scars and things as I progress. Unlike others on this comment section though, my goal for Nate is to be the wastelands steady rock, who stays on the good path no matter the trials. I’ll still add scars as he grows, but he won’t become insane and violent over time. Honestly I have really enjoyed having nick valentine as a companion because his nature is essentially the same as mine.
I also joined the brotherhood just to get power armors. I haven't betrayed them yet, I will do it after the mission "Blind Betrayal", which is the best moment to kill Maxson and it makes sense in terms of story.
I usually go with Nate. As to how things go afterwards? On my Minuteman character, his thoughts are this: he's pissed. But he's also used to fighting as part of a force. When he stumbles upon Preston and saves the Minutemen from the brink of extinction, and gets named General...he's found it. He sees what the Commonwealth has become - it's what he thinks of war, and it's hell in what used to be his backyard. He's going to find Shaun. At the head of an _army._ Nate is disillusioned with war, but not freedom. And fighting for freedom? He knows a thing or two about that. But he's been trained to the pinnacle of U.S. Army training, with the ability to build anything, plant food, fire any weapon, wield power armor, hack computers, pick locks...he's the ultimate implacable man. _Nothing_ will stop him from finding Shaun and avenging Nora; but it's also not true that he'll stop at nothing. If he did, he wouldn't be the man that Nora loved in the first place. So, to build the army that will free Shaun, he'll build and plant and shoot and hack and pick, on _their_ behalf, first. After all - winning hearts and minds means winning at least half of the battle. ...And that's how my goody two-shoes character came to be.
Way late I know but I love this. That's a great way of reading Nate. (And I always play total goodie-two-shoes characters as well.) I'm playing Shaun's mother, but she has a similar way of looking at the settlements and the Minutemen: she's going to find Shaun, but she also wants to make this into a better world for him to live in. I hadn't seen the terminal entries before, but I think they fit. :)
I've had the Commonwsalth's despair: an Nate so angry and with so much despair he ends joining the Institute and basically purging the Commonwealth. And General Nate: Angry and with despair, he still doesn't give up into insanity, and ends up figthing for the Minutemen He is implacable, he can wield all kinds of weapons, has elite military training on survival and certain basic skills, the Commonwealth's threat is literally helpless against him, and he ends up liberating the Commonwealth, avenging his country and his family.
@@Gabriel-bu7fc Angry eh? Poor Preston and Minutemens Getting Order by him all over again After he have enough Doing all settlements jobs. From Freedom Become Dicatoric
@@GloriG_C17 In my headcanon rp lore after liberating the commonwealth, he and Piper get married, and go on with their lives at Diamond city as a married couple. Nate simply sits down, and starts living a nice "urban" (We can't call diamond city an urban area i guess lol) and relax. Well, that's my excuse for finishing that run Still working on the Subaru-Nate run
@@Gabriel-bu7fc Nah, As Faction's Leader. He cant simply just "Running" away and Give faction responsibility to your right hand. He will Lives At the Castle, working. meanwhile His New wife lives at diamond city Making Press. It will be cool if Second Super Mutant attack or Raider attack at DC and Minutemen Came to save for the second time, In order to not make Second mistake Like General Baker killed in combat, The General Gonna Stay at castle Monitoring The battle and giving directions with his Command Eyebot. Eyebot has a Speaker and a Camera Right? and Minutemen Can Make their own bots thanks to the Mechanist (If you spare her).
I like it when the guy said the speech at the veteran meeting area. Over 200 years but he eventually got to say is speech. It was so good the audience was dead silent.
I've been binge-watching all of you lore videos lately and want to express my sincere gratitude for your content - the quality, narrative and editing are immersive and stunning. So thank you :)
Highly possible.Since in Anchorage DLC of Fallout 3, you play as unknown war hero. And, considering the fact that male SS was a war veteran, so it highly makes sense.
If it isn't it has always been my head cannon even though I play Nora, I love the idea you play Nate in Operation Anchorage as I said as head cannon, oh and Ox that las part was actually tearful, oh and if you look real close to that diploma it seems she not only has a degree in Law but a PhD in it, could be wrong and also in the haircuts for at least females is Public Defender so was Nora a PD?
I love how when Nora says war, war never changes at the podium, she has a sigh after the first part. I interpret it as her realizing what her dead spouse means. She finally saw what Nate had endured and the horror of nuclear war. But as she expresses it, no one, not even the original speaker will be there to understand her
He might have been less sanguine if he knew that the Brotherhood was technically founded by deserters from the Army who deserted their post before the bombs fell.
@@demarcusvonlaquaviouslxix7954 chinese? CHINESE?!?! HOW FCKING DARE YOU, YOU INCULTURED IDIOT I honestly dont wanna offend anyone from this but how the hell can you say animes are chinese, thats just stupid. But yeah, just don't call animes chinese. They're japanese.
Hearing Nora speak at the Veterans Hall. Makes me tear up every time. In my eyes, Nate, Nora, and Shaun all died. The world they knew is gone, and your journey is a rebirth in a new world, and one journeying to understand that everything you once knew is gone.
This game allows you to play as the two most horrifying things in the world: A man who has lost his wife and had his son stolen and a women who lost her husband and had her son stolen. Let the carnage commence.
@Lavian Vi Ironically enough, it would be "learn them". But hey, don't let proper grammar get in the way of you attacking someone else for their grammar. Manners and etiquette, learn them.
For us, yeah that would be the worst part of this. People in the real world have to deal with this, the rest of the Fallout Universe is (Fingers crossed) just fiction, so things like super mutants are out of our boundaries of empathy, whereas losing a spouse and child? that's something most people have a fear of
This concept was actually used in Fallout 3. U play as a son whose father leaves him alone to help the wasteland. And when u find your father, he has to sacrifice inorder to save the wasteland. Similarly to how sore survivor was drag into this, similarly lone wonderer was drag into the conflicts of the wasteland. That is enough reason to take revenge upon the wasteland.
S E T T L E M E N T S ! ! ! All joking aside, I love the settlement building and choose the Minutemen both for the idea of rebuilding the Massachusetts Commonwealth from the ground up and for building the settlements. If ES6 has a building system like Fallout 4, I would be SO happy.
If they make Fallout 5 in Seattle, they should reference you by having a house with a skeleton lying on a computer and a mounted horn that's got the word 'Ox' on it.
meandog1000 Ha! You discover Ghoul!Ox in his bicentennial home just chilling at his computer. He glances at you and comments something like "You haven't even listened to half the holotapes you're lugging around, have you?"
"Who left those here?" That implies a guest left them and that neither smoke. I think the surprise gift mentioned on Nora's terminal was likely the holotape recorded by your spouse that Codsworth gives you. Also, I disagree that Nora had earned her degree "recently." Nate mentions Nora "dusting off her law degree," which seems to imply that she was working before the pregnancy and is just starting to think about going back to practice. In our world, Suffolk University Law School is located in downtown Boston. It was located directly north (like, the next building) of the Orpheum Theatre, aka, the Combat Zone.
I had an interesting thought. What if they met while he was serving because she had to defend him or a friend of his. That would be interesting. Either way if I knew the back stories I would have invested more in charisma and intelligence at the start of my play through instead of a balancing it around high intelligence for faster leveling. Lol
I know i'm late to this video, but what do you mean you don't know what Nora's first entry refers to. Codsworth gives you that very holotape at the beginning of the game!
This may be a small comment that doesn't really change much, but are we sure Nora was newly graduated? It may have been an oversight or a poorly made joke but there is talk about Nora dusting off her law degree. This would suggest that she was a lawyer for a good while before stopping for most likely maternal reasons. It is also more likely that she's experienced since she speaks very knowledgeably about the person who presumably she's never met is an innocent and knows what's going on in the system.
Nate has a dialogue option later on that also reveals he's a baseball fan. In Publick Occurrences he can sarcastically respond to Piper when she asks how he's holding up, saying something like "My favorite ballfield was turned into a shantytown"
I'm amazed you didn't talk about the cut content of Piper's Extended Interview with the Sole Survivor. Though the dialogue options are chosen by the player they offer insight into how they perceived the world and their profession.
In the artbook for fallout 4 you can actually see in the first version of the prologue that nate was awarded the medal of honor. It's laying in a box with his war memorabilia
My first playthrough I picked Nate and started the game as a Lawful Good War Hero type of character. By the middle and till the end, the trials of the wasteland basically had him turn into a pessimistic cross between Solid Snake and the Punisher
Mr. Oxhorn, I want to say I really appreciate your work and have seen your videos for years. You have a gift with this and i appreciate your passion on the Fallout 4 game you make it way better
I chose Nate, had him join the Brotherhood because of his military background, and he currently goes around the wastes righting wrongs and solving mysteries with Nick Valentine.
Juaggu productions I respect that but if he hangs with nick how is he with anti synth group. No judgement just tried to do that but I like Nick and Paladin Danse to much
+ Naa45702 There’s a difference between opposing the Institute and how they use synths, and disliking synths. I’ve played a BoS protagonist who liked Nick, spared Danse, but saw the BoS as the best option to help people. A century of the Institute using synths to terrorize people is going to color how some folks view synths.
In one of my play through I randomly filled out my special chart and Nora seemed to be suffering from ptsd or something very similar cause when I scrapped Kellogg’s pistol she said “ can’t hurt anyone, anymore.” And after that she was fine. It was very unique and very different than your run of the mill play through.
When you first return to Sanctuary after leaving Vault 111, and after you have spoken to Codsworth, you go into your ruined home and activate Shaun's crib, and Nora will say " I'm coming sweetheart" or Nate will say " I'm coming buddy". This always puts a knot in my stomach, and a tear in my eyes It is by far the most touching part, especially if you speak to Codsworth right away when you get to Sanctuary.
I think it was next to swans pond in that garden-ish place... and i say this with doubt because i remember something was hinting to it but i exactly cant pin point what it was
I feel as though both characters have a lot of venn diagram-esque overlaps, such as a tide for witty banter and convincing personality (let's be honest, you're not taking off my clothes in a park unless your words are made of gold. However, their backgrounds and principles seem to play heavily on what factions these two resonate towards. Nate's experience in warfare and determined-yet-blunt personality fits him perfectly with the Minutemen and BoS. Nora's ability to converse with enemies and intense intellect seems to fit her perfectly with the Railroad and Institute. Their time with their child may also prove to be a major prospect onto what choice they make on supporting their child in his last few days to live. I personally feel Nate would have it easier going against Shaun than Nora would, and the psychological grief of risking it all to lose it all is what makes me feel she would make the better Overboss between the two of them. Plus, it sounds like Nora's one to always be holding the reins on things.
While that’s fair, I’m still not a fan of how different the life experiences of Nate and Nora are, I feel like both should have been veterans or their careers should have been left ambiguous. With a military background you can fill in a lot of blanks, like you could have been a sneaky commando, an officer, a mechanic or technician, there’s so much room to explain why your Nate is the way he is, while with Nora you can be the dumbest antisocial melee monster in the world, but you’re always a Lawyer.
@@InquisitorThomas Not sure how that's unfair though. I imagine plenty of lawyers would want to bash people's faces in if they had the chance. Plus I think it does more in the duality of morals within an individual, as the law is not justified to be necessarily "right" or "wrong," whereas a soldier can always be reprimanded from morality by only being a follower of orders.
that microphone moment is actually really sad imo it must remind him/her about their life, the plans that almost happened. for Nate he was going up there to make a speech and that must remind him of his wife since she was going to attend i'm sure for Nora is must have been worse, remembering that her husband was going to make that speech i'm sure as any couple does, he practiced with her at least a few times.
At around 19:30 you mention a holotape. If you go to post war sanctuary and do some dialogue with Codsworth then he gives you a tape from Nora, if you are Nate of course. This is probably the holotape Nora was thinking of giving Nate.
I really wish there is an offical storyline to revive the sole survivor's spouse, I know there is a mod out there but the pasted together dialog is far from perfect.
I had my male sole survivor join the Brotherhood of Steel cuz after the collapse of humanity the military is really all that he still knows and the Brotherhood is stable forced to concede the questionable orders but during times of desperation and War he would have received similar orders from the generals in the US Army during the war nothing he's not familiar with
@@matthewjones39 he'd have to be the leader of the minutemen, and depending on how you want to headcanon it, he probably wasn't a commanding officer in the military
Well, my soul survivor is a Skeleton who wears a bathrobe and sombrero while he fires a banana gun that shoots more bananas. So, that's what a turned him into. *A funny looking skeleton. After years of work and losing his son and wife, he is a skeleton. Poor, poor, Nate.*
You know Oxhorn, the sole survivor changing how he lives after going through that much trauma is something I hadn't even considered. Thanks for giving me the new angle.
I feel like there were a lot of assumptions made in the Nora part of the video that have no evidence to back them up. Ox says several times that Nora "just" got her law degree, but it seems far more likely that she was a lawyer for at least a few years before having Shaun, especially since she had her own office and aide. It's far more likely that she worked her way up to that position rather than starting there. Also, she talked about the case getting her "back in the game," which means she had a game to begin with. This is supported by the fact that she had the opportunity to choose her own clients, which you can only do if you're fairly successful or don't care about making any money, which is unlikely with a kid. There's no explicit indication of when she got her degree. Additionally, he said that the only way the couple could have saved up money was if the US military paid really well. This is not true, as it's based on the assumption that Nora just started law. If she had been in law for a few years already, and was at least moderately successful, as is indicated by the fact that she has an office and an aide along with the ability to choose her own clients, then it would have been fairly easy to save up some money as a buffer.
GreenbloodLady Soldiers do get a decent pension when they're decorated and retire The FO universe is mostly lkke that of the 50s, with little deviation in general attitudes He likely served long enough..or with enough distinction that her law degree doesnt matter that much in terms of raising the kid In a highly militaristic time with recruitment trying to be ramped up..you don't give speeches to random soldiers He was likely seen as a hero and being used as a tool for recruitment, part of which means that he and his life are essentially set So that his comfort can be seen and used to show what YOU could have if you join the army
because of the 2 professional entries.. she said she wasnt going to take the first case, and would do the second one pro bono.. so she chose not to do first one and chose to do the second one free.
The role playing aspect I think was the most debated part of the game in the fact that most people found it difficult to role play a bad guy given the starting situation the Sole Survivor finds their self in. I have to agree with this. However, I really like the fact that the Sole Survivor's back story was flushed out a little more with the terminal entries and I think it can help those players that wanted to play a bad guy actually play a bad guy better...a tragic bad guy. For Nate, if I wanted to play a bad guy, I could use the fact that he knows war is hell and wants change to send him off the deep end when he wakes up and finds his son gone, wife dead, and world blown up because humans never changed. It could drive him deep and dark and he could focus that rage and sadness into mindless wrath or vengeance, or even be role played as a dead soul, uncaring and unattached to this new world. For Nora, I could use her powerful sense of justice and have it warped as she finds that the universe has shown her that justice is only an illusion. She had worked hard, saved money, had a beautiful son, a loving and heroic husband, and was just beginning to take on a case defending the little guy against big government. Everything was going her way, and then, the bombs hit. In an instant, her son, her husband, her career, her money, her entire life was gone. The universe was NOT just. Justice is a figment of imagination...a collective lie told by society to keep people from true justice, her justice. Her views could warp as she realizes that some truths she believed in such as property ownership and legal fault are really phantasmal aspects of a fallen society that sought blame for life's misfortunes. That true justice lay in the ability to acquire property and protect it as she saw fit. That a person's life is not inherently valuable since the life of her husband was so nonchalantly taken and her son was lost. Maybe that warps her to believing in "might is right" justice and she will take from this world as the world had taken from her! As always, thank you for the comprehensive and wonderful work, Ox!
So there I was, coming back to this brilliant video, crying towards the end. Surely it's a good idea to go through some comments. Excuse me while I listen to Diamond City Radio with my puddle of tears 😂
Seeing my spouse being shot again Really sent shivers down my spine... I played as Nate and that really is something. Honestly there the coolest couple in fallout
+ Lavian Vi The protagonist didn’t turn men, women, and children into Super Mutants. Didn’t necessarily destroy entire settlements. So it’s not really comparable.
+Lavian Vi. unless one turns the sole survivor into a literal monster of a human-being (mini-nuking settlements etc) then most of what you kill consist of... raiders, gunners (more disciplined raiders) institute gen 2 synths, super mutants (who are on their own genocidal path) and other freaks of the wasteland like deathclaws yao guai radscorpions and mole rats and assorted wasteland bugs. all of the above are killing machines in their own way and you're making the commonwealth safer by dispatching them.
My sole survivor was all about finding Shaun, but Kellog came first in her mind- she wanted him dead. The Minutemen became her family. Preston I like to say took her aside one night after a particularly brutal killing of a Raider and she whispered "That's what I want to do to the bastard who killed Nate." Nick Valentine I want to say became the person who inspired her to not stop caring for anyone she could, and meeting Maxene I want to say would be like meeting a mother figure. You would want to stay and protect her, only to find out she is fully capable of protecting herself. When she met Shaun, she cried, but when she found out what he'd become, she killed him outright. A 45 caliber slug was her farewell present, and she then killed the Institute... but not before sounding the evacuation order. Post game I say she would retire to The Castle and work on getting the Brotherhood to leave or to help settle and make the Commonwealth safer. She'd lead a team called Zero Hour, a crack team of power armored wearing Minutemen who deploy to handle serious threats, like a Raider attack with heavy weapons or a deathclaw outbreak. Preston and her would grow old and make the Minutemen a great force for good... before the likely outcome of greed and the sort causes the group to splinter due to poor leadership.
I killed Shaun after he asked me to kill the Railroad members, so he wasn’t on his deathbed. I doubt he was go the other guy either if he killed him after finding out about Shaun’s crimes.
I always end up making Nora (now, Eleanor :) a peace maker with high charisma, intelligence, and perseverance. She works on helping people around her make a happy safer world, as she seeks to find her missing son and find justice for her husband's murder. No matter what happens around her, she refused to let circumstances get her down or turn her into a monster. Never giving up hope and enduring the toughest of the wasteland, she will not give up and finds comfort in helping her many friends (companions). I am a fallout 4 diehard fan. It's addicting building workshops and helping settlers.
I always figured Nate would have a much easier time surviving in the Wasteland simply because of his training from the army being good enough training to keep him several steps ahead of the typical Raider. Nora seems like she would be a lot better at talking her way through a situation than fighting, which wouldn't always work with the several psychopaths littered through the Commonwealth. As for my who my Sole Survivor became? I always had my Nate completely normal, the way he was in Pre-War America, simply determined to find his son. But his mind began to fracture and break when finding out that the new leader of the people who took his son, IS his own son. He began getting distant from the companions he made. He worked with the Minutemen to destroy the Institute, and never was able to forgive himself for it. He didn't take Synth Shaun with him, as he felt that his family was dead, and there was no bringing them back. He continued traveling the Commonwealth, pushing away his companions, ignoring his responsibilities as the General of the Minutemen, and becoming a broken, angry, dangerous man. I also imagine that one day he would leave the Commonwealth, the only signs of him left is what you see in the main menu. I imagine this because the main menu looks a lot like the Sole Survivor either died, or left the Commonwealth, leaving behind several of their belongings. (Such as their Pip-Boy) I don't know what will happen to my Sole Survivor after he leave. That will be up for him to decide.
47th Heaven Actually he didn't. If I had been more specific in my comment I would have noted that he destroyed the Nuka-World Raiders. He goes through the events of Nuka-World before any of the other DLC. He leaves the Commonwealth some time after the events of Far Harbor. To be more specific about this as well, his mind begins to truly crack because of DiMA's questions about him being a Synth leading to him not knowing if he is or not. This added with the stress of survival in the Wasteland, AND losing his entire family, he leaves the Commonwealth to leave it all behind.
Bat Doot I don't think the role play was ever hard to begin with. I think many just don't try hard enough because the character talks. Yeah it's different but I like new things, even if they don't work at first That said, damn you thought yours out really well. I just destroy everything with a mini gun that shoots mini nukes owo
I did Nora (named her Elizabeth Warren)and she was for the first half dark and just wanted revenge but after being with Hitchcock,they fell in love,she also has Shawn back(as in Robot Shawn)
In the end I did two playthroughs and started two others I never finished. For Nora, I did a playthrough where she joined the Brotherhood out of respect and admiration for Nate's past. She was a stubborn, strong, rough woman who stuck to her resolve when made, which ultimately made her kind, but also vengeful and a grudge-holder. Since she held Nate in such high regard, she ultimately saw a peace-keeping organization like the Brotherhood as the ultimate response to the destruction of the world. In the end, after Shaun's death, she abandoned sanctuary, moving out to Spectacle Island and fashioning her own fortress. Her only companions robots, and all of her losses and regrets being too great to handle. Ultimately she never remarried or fell for anyone else, as she was too shocked by the death of her spouse, and couldn't move on, nobody were there to help. I would imagine that the Brotherhood scribes and soldiers were proud of her accomplishment, but that the Brotherhood, like many military organizations, didn't typically spend lots of time profiling their comrades. As such, they assumed Nora was fine given she had defeated The Institute and save the Commonwealth, but sadly the truth was that Nora was devastated that her vengeance-filled quest to save Shaun ultimately ended with him dead. She couldn't accept that, after everything that happened, there was no reset button that she had mentally convinced herself had somehow existed. Despite her solitary living, if you needed help in the Commonwealth, Sentinel Nora was there. She mindlessly devoted her life to helping the Commonwealth, destroying raiders and mutants, and always played her radio so she never had to think about the past. She always wears Nate's wedding band. For Nate, I did a playthrough where he joined the Minutemen. Ultimately, he wasn't as aggressive of a person as Nora, so he was often polite to a fault, even when being angry would have been a better response. Nate was more likely to try to find a solution, as his years in the war had left him with minor PTSD that made resolving conflict with diplomacy his default mode of action, which something wasn't always the wisest course of action and often led him to getting into situations he could have easily avoided. With all of the war history he had from his family, he decided the best thing to do was to turn the Minutemen into the police of the Commonwealth, people there when you needed them. While still distraught over Nora's death, my Nate, unlike my Nora, surrounded himself with people, and ultimately made the Castle his home, where he speaks with those like Preston and Ronnie on a regular basis. The fall of the Institute and ultimate death of Shaun was hard for him to take, however unlike my Nora who was simply rewarded with honor by the Brotherhood but ultimate left to deal with her pain alone, I'd like to think Preston, Ronnie, and the other Minutemen helped Nate accept the situation so he could make the Minutemen something his family's history would be proud of. Eventually rising above his pain, Nate returned to the Vault to properly bury Nora near the house in Sanctuary. It would be over a year later, but he would begin spending time with Piper. He would never forget Nora, but he was ready to accept that his old life was gone and couldn't be brought back, and he had to live in the world he was a part of. I'd also like to think that Piper is aware that he will never truly forget about Nora given his circumstance, and is ready to accept that.
So you asked who we chose and who we made the character into... I chosen Nate and made him go from a loving Father and Decorated Soldier into a Mentally Broken Character.. Loosing the only happiness you have could turn the kindest into a Monster.
personally, when i went for the first time into the wastes, i chose to be nate. I chose to make him an avenger, more interested in getting revenge on those who would harm his family than anything else. mostly because, even early into the investigation its pretty clear, whatever his son became, synth, man, dead, it was under the influence of the people who killed his mother and stole his life. he would never be the man he was supposed to become as the son of nate, and for that, in nate's eyes, it might have been worse than death. nate may never really get his family back, but he can be damn sure the ones who took them suffer for it. so, that was nate in my game. he was a hardass, he wasnt emotionless, but he didnt help everyone who asked. he sized up the quality of the people he met, and if he found them wanting, he left them to rot. asking for help doesnt guarantee it, and the nate i played made sure you deserved it before he helped you.
Dead eye is the only blind super-mutant😅 he's a melee super-mutant that has low perception(so he's surrendered by mines so he gives a challenge).Look at his face, he has a rag over his eyes
In the year 1945, my great-great grandfather, serving in the army, wondered when he'd get to go home to his wife and the son he'd never seen. He got his wish when the US ended World War II by dropping atomic bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki. The World awaited Armageddon; instead, something miraculous happened. We began to use atomic energy not as a weapon, but as a nearly limitless source of power. People enjoyed luxuries once thought the realm of science fiction. Domestic robots, fusion-powered cars, portable computers. But then, in the 21st century, people awoke from the American dream. Years of consumption lead to shortages of every major resource. The entire world unraveled. Peace became a distant memory. It is now the year 2077. We stand on the brink of total war, and I am afraid. For myself, for my wife, for my infant son - because if my time in the army taught me one thing: it's that war, war never changes.
My original SS chose the Institute. She did everything to find Shaun and listened to him about the Institute and it matched up with what she'd experienced with the quests she took to help people. She wanted the railroad to be able to work with the Institute like the Minutemen would, but she couldn't just let the Institute's resources go to waste, especially with her being given control by Shaun. She shapes The Institute in her image with her morals, which turns the "evil" faction good in her mind because she's going to use their resources to help people and save the commonwealth.
I like how oxhorn somewhat reads into everything, assuming everything might be a clue or something useful. It's kinda funny sometimes but it's part of what makes him so thorough and fun to listen to.
Even with these terminals setting their "good" personalities I still think that the bombs dropping could still create an evil persona. All of that trauma could create a evil sociopath.
I prefer to play as Nora because I feel like Nate has too much of an identity. He is the “right” choice for who is probably more capable of saving their son and helping the wasteland. I feel that Nate’s past experiences would make it easier for him to adapt to the wasteland. Nora might have been shown how to use a gun or defend herself. She might have some basic survival skills and instincts but that is for the player decide. It makes since that she would need time to learn and grow into a real killing machine that most people become when reaching higher levels unlike Nate who really should be better trained then Nora. I think the story has more impact with Nora especially with the information we learn from military bases. Nate might know some of that information already while it is definitely new for Nora. I like to think of how these new experience would make her grow and change and how her previous life experience would shape her new life in the commonwealth.
Honestly, Nora may not have as big a military insight, but she does seem to recognize some of the higher-tier equipment (options in When Freedom Calls to comment on power armor's effectiveness and such,) which assumes that perhaps she's been on-base before and maybe even got to see things like Power Armor and such before Anchorage. Perhaps not the stalwart vet like Nate, but on the other hand Nora also has quite a bit of Mama Bear mentality when it comes to the lines regarding Shaun and avenging Nate. What she lacks in training, she makes up far more in drive.
The bomb drops while you are taking a shit, hahaha, even funnier if you had spicy food yesterday, drop the bomb in the toilet, butthole still burns though.
Ox, just wanted to say that I absolutely LOVE your videos! I've been watching you do so long and have told all of my friends about you. So keep being you. Love you bro.
And when they finally reunite with their son, not only is he now 60 (meaning they’ve missed out on his whole life), but he’s basically become a monster... That’s why I roleplayed that my Sole Survivor finally took his own life in Sanctuary Hills. :( Nothing, not even Cait or Piper could pull him from the abyss.
The reason why Nate has such a high pay check is the following: Base pay- his normal paycheck Basic housing allowance- money given to pay for his home to help support his family Combat pay- pay for combat zones Hazardous pay- pay for being in a zone that hazardous to life And he also gets paid for any achievements he earns, like rank, or medals. We never know his rank but he's clearly higher than E-4. Also BAH is determined by the cost of housing where your dependant is living, Massachusetts is expensive so at least 1.5-2k a month on top of what Nate already earned.
It appears not many know this but there is dialoge in the game files were nora is also military. Which makes sense given how common it is to use the military to pay for college. It explains so much about them, how they met, how nora is able to walk out of a vault and immediately start killing everything just like nate, how she earned her degree, why they talk about dusting off her degree, and how they talk about this new life that started only a year ago.
Well to be fair using a gun isn't that hard and you'll get a lot of practice in the wasteland. My problem though is how she can operate power armor so easily. In the past games you needed special training. I gave Nate a pass since he was in the military but she's just a lawyer.
I agree, I wish it had been more prominently featured in the base game. There's no way Nora didn't have some military experience. Being able to fire a gun is a whole lot different than being able to survive in a firefight. And that's not to mention using power armor right off the bat.
Well at the beginning all she's fighting are rad roaches and mole rats. Maybe hunting and practicing at the firing range was a hobby she had with her husband before the war. I think they may have retconned how difficult it is to use power armor considering even raiders can use it and 50's style Greasers.
I agree with you pelcogo. At that time Im sure everyone knew how to use a gun in some sort or fashion and like he said he would have trained her for self defense.
A neat side game that could be made for the fallout series could be one with an entirely pre-war setting, perhaps with several character types to play as, each having their own distinctive storylines; a detective looking to solve a vital case, a criminal trying to smuggle illicit goods past military checkpoints, an agent trying to catch chinese infiltrators or vice versa, or even just a normal working joe going about the average american existence. If it was done as a VR title as well, it would be even more interesting!
The holotape reminder was the "Hi Honey!" Holotape Codsworth gives you at the start of the game. He tells you he thinks it was supposed to be a surprise from Nora. I could be wrong
When I l listen to that I started to cry
@@midas2920 same here bro
One on the floor at the bottom of the bed, I ended up with 2 copies 😂
I cried the first time I heard it. And I find myself being very sad every time I listen to it.
he also says it was a surprise from Nate
NEED TO FIND MY SON. Holdup lets build settlements, go to far harbor, become the overboss, and help my companions with their personal issues first.......Shaun who?
I just sort of role played like Shaun didn’t exist, like I’m just a random guy that got out of the vault. I used console commands to skip the main missions.
Diavolo finds his son and kills him because he makes synths
+Diavolo
Reminds me of this XD
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I sure do love Shawn the bramin, he's the best bramin.
Shawn !!! just wait a second or three weeks, my settler needs goofy hats. It is very important my son, they need matching pink headlamps.
Nora: "I'll find who did this..."
Nate: "and I'll get Shaun back..."
(Both together): "I promise."
*Tries not to cry, cries anyway.*
Ikr. It is really sad that we could not decide our spouse fate later in game. Imagine if we could later decide Nora's fate later in game. I mean in somepoint on Main questline your enemy faction attacks your settlement where Nora is and you can either choose to complete quest that somehow influence end game decision or try to save your spouse that also have some influence to end game decision....
I know there's a mod to have your spouse as a companion, but I wish it was canon. And that would be great if you had to make a choice between saving your spouse or the quest.
Promised to find Shaun. After building a settlement, travelling to far harbour and rule an amusement park.
yeah it was pretty good
It's so sad
"I'll get Shaun back, I promise..."
Proceeds to loot every desk fan and roll of duct tape in the Commonwealth to build the perfect vacation home on Spectacle Island
gotta get that *A D H E S I V E*
dont forget the wonderglue
and the vegetable starch
My character just eats his cereal
Or Ended Killing you own Son
@@GloriG_C17 yeah 😔
"Why Do You Write Down The Locations You Visit"
Me: There Are Surprise Tools There That'll Help Us Later.
Hearing them say "I promise" at the same time... Chills, man.
Spyglass feels too
When i was just reading your comment, all i hear is, "I promise." Good timing.
Spyglass BRONYS!!!!!!
Spyglass wait fallout eqestria brony that's unusual
Spyglass not gonna lie. I kinda cried a bit
Of course Nora would use Nate's lines at the 115 podium. She is honoring her dead husband's memory by using the words that he was to say at that gathering.
Probably both.
Francesco Vassallo go back to /pol/
Don McCollough Thats what I first figured too.
It's more like understanding and embracing. Now she know what does it really meant for nate.
Very true... listen to how she says it...theres sorrow in her voice... Nate says it more seriously.
“If a courier gets shot in the head he won’t be the same”
well yeah cause he’s dead...
*me not noticing it’s referencing new vegas*
lol
"you..... you idiot"
Perception 1
I bet Benny felt like a fool, shooting the courier, turning him into a doomsday device, worse than any of the bombs that dropped in the Mojave...
At least he survived
Well, considering she knows how to use weapons and armor, my guess would be Nate and Nora met in the Service and Nora got her degree through Military Scholarship while Nate enlisted for another tour of duty
This is now my headcanon.
She was never in the military
My head canon was that she worked with the military as a civilian to save money for college.
Maybe she was a civilian that worked for them.
Neith she was a lawyer watch his video on ironsides and the big ass boat
Even Shaun secretly smokes
Ohhh so that's why her has cancer
@Slighty Psychopathic oh no
Yes Shaun put that pack of cigarettes there on the table those damn tobacco companies just keep trying to market their products to younger and younger demographics every day now even babies smoke well shit....
And drinks, found bourbon in his bedroom
SHAUN
What's pretty great is the nora companion mod. Yes it basically ruins the concept of romancing the companions out there but just feels great going out into the wasteland as a couple to kick ass and get back your son.
@Dancing Deity Could've made for a cool co-op mode too.
one of my favorite mods for the game, it reminds me of a fan written Fallout 3 story in which Amata leaves the Vault along with "Loyd"
@@JeithKarrett WHATS WRONG WITH YOU!! WE HAVE 76,CO-OP THERE!! ITS TONS OF FUN🤣😂
Its still a WIP,does it work properly??
Im affraid of using it. And do you have to be Nate or either is fine??
@@Dirtbag-Hyena Fun? That glitch factory fuckup is your idea of fun? You need help. If 76 is today's Fallout fandom's idea of fun then it's truly sad how far the franchise has fallen.
"I need to find Shaun!"
And then comes a distant voice: "There's settlement that needs your help, I'll mark it on you map."
"I already forgot who Shaun was."
GODDAMNIT PRESTON SHUT THE HELL UP!!!
Lol
LMFAO
That's deep
AAAAHAHAHAHA
My Sole Survivor became a pissed off mother who steam rolled through everyone who got in her way.
Sounds like a typical Karen
@@CaptFordo-zp4nl Nah, she did not demand to see anyone's manager, plus, a Karen would NEVER be as unselfish as my SS. lol Not once in game did the SS EVER use her kid to get what she wanted from those in charge. A Karen would not be willing to become a bullet sponge to get their kid back. They'd let OTHER people do that for them and they would STILL demand the poor bastards they used compensate THEM for supposedly traumatizing their shitty kid who couldn't be any more oblivious to what was going on around them.
So you see, it's not even close.
Sounds like my mom tho ngl
In my game Nate adopts a new identity Damien De Sardet. Whatever he was before that is gone. All that's left is a vicious mercenary. He aligns with the minutemen and the railroad. Every other faction is a temporary alliance.
Outside those two main factions he's willing to take most jobs. Only after squeezing the cilent for every cap they have. His viciousness really comes out against Gunner, ferals, mutants and raiders. As a melee focused character. He quiet literally rips them to pieces. It honestly feels like the good guys use him as an attack dog. Instead of dealing with problems that would spoil the reputation of the minutemen. Preston sends him to do the dirty work. De Sardet goes along with it sense he's still in the anger stage of grief. So i guess you could say his idea of therapy is different.
Mine brought peace justice and security to his new empire
Me in 2077 sitting in a rocking chair looking into the distance: War....... War never changes.
My whole family including the deceased: STOP QUOTING THAT STUPID FALLOUT GAME
I hope I live to 23rd of October 2077 just so I get to say war never changes at exactly the time of the Great War no matter where I am or what im doing
Well I hope I live that long so I can make that same comment. I'll be closer to 100 years old then, so I guess not :-P
MGS4 did it better; "War has changed..."
Ginger Lady Lmfao meming never changes
@@Spidersox1989 I want to be alive at that date so I can nuke the world
It's crazy how In a very short cutscene that I've played a handful of times you still show me things I missed. Never knew they had a dog, but lost it. Super sad, but makes dogmeat make complete sense. A human out of a vault, alone all but a robot. Seeing a dog would break either of their hearts, and I think they'd feel strongly inclined to "adopt" dogmeat.
156football i like the theory that Dogmeat was their dog and maybe ghoulified during the nuclear attack
@@AdrianBludfang Makes no sense but that's okay
+Adrian Valistar. idk about ghoulified, those mongrels out in the wastes are ghoulifed and they are grotesque. dogmeat i think is a mostly un-mutated dog but a dog who's ancestors evolved radiation resistance/immunity since the bombs fell, or were already immune to radiation and their breed survived the apocalypse practically untouched.
I guess Dogmeat could be a descendent of the dog that they had. Maybe you could play that off as the reason why they have such a close bond.
@@AdrianBludfang I don't fully agree given that dogmeat isn't a ghoul, but Sparky is. And I've always thought that sparky was once their dog.
I would be remiss if I didn't point out that Nate complains that Codsworth draws his bath too cold, despite the house of tomorrow not having a bathtub, only a shower.
Maybe he just moved to a new house and took codsworth with him?
It may have been removed in place of the shower at some point. Idk just an idea.
@Undefined Logic OR SCIENCE!!👍
It's also cut content so does it really matter
The Sole Survivor bathes in Codsworth's sweet, sweet tears. 😂
Nah Nora isn’t dead, she’s a companion according to my recently installed mod.
I love that mod i have it aswell love it
Nate and nora roaming the wasteland together.
Great comment btw👍
@@DidierWierdsma6335 Honestly, Nate and Nora would be such a wasteland power couple! As a Veteran, Nate would be the perfect fit for General of the Minutemen, while Nora's law degree would equip her to help establish and mediate a new Commonwealth Provisional Government.
No one Could Survive 44.Magnum Bullet in 0.5 Meters, If she alive should have been lucky. Shoted in Shoulder and Error Cryopod Door opening itself.
@@divergenttardis7378 NO, NOT THE CPG!! NOT AGAIN!
If Vault 111 didn't let the scientist go to asshole-ville, then many of the residents of Sanctuary Hills would probably establish something akin to Vault City or Shady Sands, Nate would do his early career as a caravan guard and probably teach his son to trick and rehabilitate the Institute into a more sane-er and humane society, as Director.
I think the shaun costume thing is foreshadowing how the player may see shaun, either someone who enforces law and justice and keep people safe or someone evil who can't be trusted
Lavian Vi it's too coincidental that he becomes the leader of one of the most hated and shady factions
Lavian Vi There's no pre-written main quest there either.
My wife is an amazing artist, so when we got this game she made a close replica of my face for Nate, and then I played through the game as, essentially, myself. With headphones on (and a little THC) it was the single most immersive gaming experience I'd ever had, which was both a good thing and a bad thing. I found myself making a number of Faustian bargains to get Shaun back, including temporarily joining the Brotherhood of Steel so I could get Power Armor and survive the Glowing Sea. However, the moment I heard Maxson talking about ethnic cleansing I tossed a grenade and fled from there as quickly as I could, leaving him dead.
Upon my arrival at the Institute, I sided with them without a second thought. Shaun was my son, and we were going to be a family again, no matter how strange it was that he was older than me and so distant. I even executed the Railroad for him. My gosh! My old son looked so much like my grandfather, whom I had also lost to cancer.
It was after discovering that he was dying that I re-thought everything. The Institute had all this wonderful technology, even capable of allowing Kellogg to live far beyond a normal human lifespan, but they hadn't found a way to cure cancer? As far as I was concerned, Shaun was still a prisoner of the Institute, even as its director. He'd just been so brain-washed by them by now that he couldn't escape anymore, even if he wanted to. So, I turned to the Minutemen for help, and together we destroyed the Institute.
After we destroyed the Institute, I found that Shaun had given me a synth copy of himself. This was not the same as having Shaun back, but having lost a child in real life, a daughter, I knew I was the type of person to take whatever I could get. So, I brought him back to the Castle with me.
But the Brotherhood still remained, with their talks of ethnic cleansing of the synths, and the closest thing I had to a son now was the young synth called Shaun. So, I fought the Brotherhood alongside the Minutement. We destroyed their airship, and won the intense battle that ensued. With them gone, the Commonwealth was as safe as I could make it for synth Shaun.
War never changes itself, but it changes you. You find yourself coming back from it, and everything is different than it was before. Perhaps its foolish to say war never changes.
War changes everything.
Good roleplay
Wow, I love how you immersed yourself into the game.
Fuck.
Damn dude this kinda makes me mad. Your story is great, and I was trying to do something similar.
But I look somewhat like default Nate, so I didn’t spend too much time on his face, and his eyes are virtually the same as default Nate.
I don’t really feel like I’m playing me, and because of that, my decisions have been different.
I think when I log back in, I’ll make a save and sit down with the plastic surgeon for a few hours and perfect it.
I’m also going to progressively change my character, adding scars and things as I progress.
Unlike others on this comment section though, my goal for Nate is to be the wastelands steady rock, who stays on the good path no matter the trials.
I’ll still add scars as he grows, but he won’t become insane and violent over time.
Honestly I have really enjoyed having nick valentine as a companion because his nature is essentially the same as mine.
Nico Bones If you can call killing ghouls, mutants and robots ethnic cleansing.
I also joined the brotherhood just to get power armors. I haven't betrayed them yet, I will do it after the mission "Blind Betrayal", which is the best moment to kill Maxson and it makes sense in terms of story.
I usually go with Nate. As to how things go afterwards? On my Minuteman character, his thoughts are this: he's pissed. But he's also used to fighting as part of a force. When he stumbles upon Preston and saves the Minutemen from the brink of extinction, and gets named General...he's found it. He sees what the Commonwealth has become - it's what he thinks of war, and it's hell in what used to be his backyard.
He's going to find Shaun. At the head of an _army._
Nate is disillusioned with war, but not freedom. And fighting for freedom? He knows a thing or two about that. But he's been trained to the pinnacle of U.S. Army training, with the ability to build anything, plant food, fire any weapon, wield power armor, hack computers, pick locks...he's the ultimate implacable man. _Nothing_ will stop him from finding Shaun and avenging Nora; but it's also not true that he'll stop at nothing. If he did, he wouldn't be the man that Nora loved in the first place. So, to build the army that will free Shaun, he'll build and plant and shoot and hack and pick, on _their_ behalf, first. After all - winning hearts and minds means winning at least half of the battle.
...And that's how my goody two-shoes character came to be.
Way late I know but I love this. That's a great way of reading Nate. (And I always play total goodie-two-shoes characters as well.) I'm playing Shaun's mother, but she has a similar way of looking at the settlements and the Minutemen: she's going to find Shaun, but she also wants to make this into a better world for him to live in. I hadn't seen the terminal entries before, but I think they fit. :)
I've had the Commonwsalth's despair: an Nate so angry and with so much despair he ends joining the Institute and basically purging the Commonwealth.
And General Nate: Angry and with despair, he still doesn't give up into insanity, and ends up figthing for the Minutemen
He is implacable, he can wield all kinds of weapons, has elite military training on survival and certain basic skills, the Commonwealth's threat is literally helpless against him, and he ends up liberating the Commonwealth, avenging his country and his family.
@@Gabriel-bu7fc Angry eh? Poor Preston and Minutemens Getting Order by him all over again After he have enough Doing all settlements jobs. From Freedom Become Dicatoric
@@GloriG_C17 In my headcanon rp lore after liberating the commonwealth, he and Piper get married, and go on with their lives at Diamond city as a married couple.
Nate simply sits down, and starts living a nice "urban" (We can't call diamond city an urban area i guess lol) and relax.
Well, that's my excuse for finishing that run
Still working on the Subaru-Nate run
@@Gabriel-bu7fc Nah, As Faction's Leader. He cant simply just "Running" away and Give faction responsibility to your right hand. He will Lives At the Castle, working. meanwhile His New wife lives at diamond city Making Press.
It will be cool if Second Super Mutant attack or Raider attack at DC and Minutemen Came to save for the second time, In order to not make Second mistake Like General Baker killed in combat, The General Gonna Stay at castle Monitoring The battle and giving directions with his Command Eyebot. Eyebot has a Speaker and a Camera Right? and Minutemen Can Make their own bots thanks to the Mechanist (If you spare her).
I like it when the guy said the speech at the veteran meeting area. Over 200 years but he eventually got to say is speech. It was so good the audience was dead silent.
👏🏼 👏🏼 👏🏼
Literally
I've been binge-watching all of you lore videos lately and want to express my sincere gratitude for your content - the quality, narrative and editing are immersive and stunning. So thank you :)
Lily Whispers ASMR wait are you an asmr youtuber watching fallout videos
Same. Oxhorn has a way of getting a complete perspective on things and his content isn't dry either.
Fat
Some one did a fallout asmr
Lily Whispers ASMR do a fallout themed asmr video
Nora's personality (what little we see of it) seems similar to Piper's. Easy to say Male SS has a type if he romances Piper
Given Nora's personality, she would most likely choose the circle option on the dialogue tree.
@@c.a.r1691 i use xbox but i can only assume thats the sarcastic option
@@famweefood7073 it's the "no" option, though the sarcasm option would probably come second
What if Nate is the one u portray in operation Anchorage in fallout 3
Maybe?
Highly possible.Since in Anchorage DLC of Fallout 3, you play as unknown war hero. And, considering the fact that male SS was a war veteran, so it highly makes sense.
Mind blowing
If it isn't it has always been my head cannon even though I play Nora, I love the idea you play Nate in Operation Anchorage as I said as head cannon, oh and Ox that las part was actually tearful, oh and if you look real close to that diploma it seems she not only has a degree in Law but a PhD in it, could be wrong and also in the haircuts for at least females is Public Defender so was Nora a PD?
@@subhankarbaral9236 it fits even more when you consider Nate/SS IS a Decorated War Hero. It would be very cool if we played as Nate
I love how when Nora says war, war never changes at the podium, she has a sigh after the first part. I interpret it as her realizing what her dead spouse means. She finally saw what Nate had endured and the horror of nuclear war. But as she expresses it, no one, not even the original speaker will be there to understand her
Turned Nate into a chem addict who has thieved from almost everyone in Diamond City.
I killed everyone I could
Then took their clothes
Ανασάσης Χατζηχρυσάφης lol me too
I turned Nate into a murderous psychopath who attacked diamond city with a two shot big boy because he was ripped off for ammo prices
@@alexanderstrattard2383 i turned nate into an alcoholic depressed person but try to keep a sarcastic badass persona around people
Now that is prime level PTSD
I turned Nate from a decorated U.S. Army soldier, to a decorated BoS Sentinel.
Darkrye231 same
Fits more with his background and all!
He might have been less sanguine if he knew that the Brotherhood was technically founded by deserters from the Army who deserted their post before the bombs fell.
Darkrye231 Me too!!!
Fuck yea AD VICTORIAM
“Fine I’ll do it myself”
Nate = Thanos
matthew homan so in 3 years?
"Impossible"
@@aloelover6012 is ur pfp some sort of chinese cartoon?
@@demarcusvonlaquaviouslxix7954 Uh no, she's from a Japanese RPG game called Hyperdimension Neptunia, which also had it's own anime.
@@demarcusvonlaquaviouslxix7954 chinese? CHINESE?!?! HOW FCKING DARE YOU, YOU INCULTURED IDIOT
I honestly dont wanna offend anyone from this but how the hell can you say animes are chinese, thats just stupid. But yeah, just don't call animes chinese. They're japanese.
Hearing Nora speak at the Veterans Hall. Makes me tear up every time.
In my eyes, Nate, Nora, and Shaun all died. The world they knew is gone, and your journey is a rebirth in a new world, and one journeying to understand that everything you once knew is gone.
This game allows you to play as the two most horrifying things in the world: A man who has lost his wife and had his son stolen and a women who lost her husband and had her son stolen. Let the carnage commence.
@Lavian Vi Are you really complaining about one meager thing? Calm down
@Lavian Vi Your comments all around the commentaries section of this video are mostly attacking other people thougts. Have some politeness man.
@Lavian Vi Ironically enough, it would be "learn them". But hey, don't let proper grammar get in the way of you attacking someone else for their grammar.
Manners and etiquette, learn them.
For us, yeah that would be the worst part of this. People in the real world have to deal with this, the rest of the Fallout Universe is (Fingers crossed) just fiction, so things like super mutants are out of our boundaries of empathy, whereas losing a spouse and child? that's something most people have a fear of
This concept was actually used in Fallout 3. U play as a son whose father leaves him alone to help the wasteland. And when u find your father, he has to sacrifice inorder to save the wasteland. Similarly to how sore survivor was drag into this, similarly lone wonderer was drag into the conflicts of the wasteland. That is enough reason to take revenge upon the wasteland.
I Turned Nate into the general of the minutemen who speaks for freedom and justice
Ross Lambert I did to
racismmmmmmmmm NIGGA!! REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!
S E T T L E M E N T S ! ! !
All joking aside, I love the settlement building and choose the Minutemen both for the idea of rebuilding the Massachusetts Commonwealth from the ground up and for building the settlements. If ES6 has a building system like Fallout 4, I would be SO happy.
Ross Lambert and forgot about Shaun?
Yeah, that's great an all.....but another settlement needs your help
If they make Fallout 5 in Seattle, they should reference you by having a house with a skeleton lying on a computer and a mounted horn that's got the word 'Ox' on it.
Screw that! Oxhorn needs to be the DJ for Fallout 5!
He needs to be a ghoul. Add him in the game as a sentient pre-war ghoul.
meandog1000 lol
meandog1000 Ha! You discover Ghoul!Ox in his bicentennial home just chilling at his computer. He glances at you and comments something like "You haven't even listened to half the holotapes you're lugging around, have you?"
And add more Norwegian raiders with terrible grammar. xD
"Who left those here?" That implies a guest left them and that neither smoke.
I think the surprise gift mentioned on Nora's terminal was likely the holotape recorded by your spouse that Codsworth gives you.
Also, I disagree that Nora had earned her degree "recently." Nate mentions Nora "dusting off her law degree," which seems to imply that she was working before the pregnancy and is just starting to think about going back to practice.
In our world, Suffolk University Law School is located in downtown Boston. It was located directly north (like, the next building) of the Orpheum Theatre, aka, the Combat Zone.
I had an interesting thought. What if they met while he was serving because she had to defend him or a friend of his. That would be interesting. Either way if I knew the back stories I would have invested more in charisma and intelligence at the start of my play through instead of a balancing it around high intelligence for faster leveling. Lol
'll find who did this"
"and I'll get Shaun back"
You didn't tell us anything about try not to cry challenge
I know i'm late to this video, but what do you mean you don't know what Nora's first entry refers to. Codsworth gives you that very holotape at the beginning of the game!
LordGatz ikr. May have been an oversight. Perhaps Ox had the impression Nora was talking about something else?
So that means Codsworth disobeyed the "For Humans Only" warning on the top of the terminal?
@@slsthewriter1299 Codsworth was not allowed to read it, which he said he didn't, before giving it to the player.
@@rithrius5384 Oh that's right, I forgot that. I wonder if he tried to polish it though.
This may be a small comment that doesn't really change much, but are we sure Nora was newly graduated?
It may have been an oversight or a poorly made joke but there is talk about Nora dusting off her law degree. This would suggest that she was a lawyer for a good while before stopping for most likely maternal reasons. It is also more likely that she's experienced since she speaks very knowledgeably about the person who presumably she's never met is an innocent and knows what's going on in the system.
Nate has a dialogue option later on that also reveals he's a baseball fan. In Publick Occurrences he can sarcastically respond to Piper when she asks how he's holding up, saying something like "My favorite ballfield was turned into a shantytown"
I'm amazed you didn't talk about the cut content of Piper's Extended Interview with the Sole Survivor. Though the dialogue options are chosen by the player they offer insight into how they perceived the world and their profession.
In the artbook for fallout 4 you can actually see in the first version of the prologue that nate was awarded the medal of honor. It's laying in a box with his war memorabilia
My first playthrough I picked Nate and started the game as a Lawful Good War Hero type of character. By the middle and till the end, the trials of the wasteland basically had him turn into a pessimistic cross between Solid Snake and the Punisher
Please tell me he has an eyepatch.
Or by accident.
*Falls in park*
Well im
*Pregnant*
Preganate?
God fucking damnit
She got pregranted
Préganté
the replies are so beautiful...
Mr. Oxhorn, I want to say I really appreciate your work and have seen your videos for years. You have a gift with this and i appreciate your passion on the Fallout 4 game you make it way better
Mudshrooze I read this like Codsworth for some reason (probably the previous tagged comments in this section)
Nicklas Polan
Lmfao
I guess your oxhorny
I chose Nate, had him join the Brotherhood because of his military background, and he currently goes around the wastes righting wrongs and solving mysteries with Nick Valentine.
Juaggu productions I respect that but if he hangs with nick how is he with anti synth group. No judgement just tried to do that but I like Nick and Paladin Danse to much
Naa45702 yeah I know, I like to think that he's bringing the Brotherhood round to his way of thinking! 😉
Juaggu productions i mean im like ox there already here so we shouldn't be dicks to them
+ Naa45702 There’s a difference between opposing the Institute and how they use synths, and disliking synths. I’ve played a BoS protagonist who liked Nick, spared Danse, but saw the BoS as the best option to help people. A century of the Institute using synths to terrorize people is going to color how some folks view synths.
In one of my play through I randomly filled out my special chart and Nora seemed to be suffering from ptsd or something very similar cause when I scrapped Kellogg’s pistol she said “ can’t hurt anyone, anymore.” And after that she was fine. It was very unique and very different than your run of the mill play through.
If there's anything I learned from nature documentaries, is you never mess with Mama.
DragonsRule06 or daddy,if anyone touches my daughter I'll blow his fucking brains out
Never mess with Mama indeed. She blew a whirlwind of death throughout the Commonwealth in search of her boy and justice for Nate!
When you first return to Sanctuary after leaving Vault 111, and after you have spoken to Codsworth, you go into your ruined home and activate Shaun's crib, and Nora will say " I'm coming sweetheart" or Nate will say " I'm coming buddy". This always puts a knot in my stomach, and a tear in my eyes It is by far the most touching part, especially if you speak to Codsworth right away when you get to Sanctuary.
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O.o
Father(shaun):where was i made mother/father
You(nora/nate):you were made in a public park bathroom
Father(shaun): ;-;
I can imagine the sole survivor saying that in front of everyone. Shaun would die of embarrassment.
I think it was next to swans pond in that garden-ish place... and i say this with doubt because i remember something was hinting to it but i exactly cant pin point what it was
Why would he ask in the first place? Who even asks that?!
@@kittycat5972 that's the joke mate, stick with the program please
Those gloves in the art where Nate was touching the photo of his wife are actually currently issued US Army Aviation gloves.
This would be accurate, considering by the time Great War happened in Fallout universe, most US soldiers were armoured and had good equipment.
I had some of those for winter
If you click on the bed in the beginning Nate will say, "This is where the magic happens" am I right?
I feel as though both characters have a lot of venn diagram-esque overlaps, such as a tide for witty banter and convincing personality (let's be honest, you're not taking off my clothes in a park unless your words are made of gold. However, their backgrounds and principles seem to play heavily on what factions these two resonate towards.
Nate's experience in warfare and determined-yet-blunt personality fits him perfectly with the Minutemen and BoS.
Nora's ability to converse with enemies and intense intellect seems to fit her perfectly with the Railroad and Institute.
Their time with their child may also prove to be a major prospect onto what choice they make on supporting their child in his last few days to live. I personally feel Nate would have it easier going against Shaun than Nora would, and the psychological grief of risking it all to lose it all is what makes me feel she would make the better Overboss between the two of them.
Plus, it sounds like Nora's one to always be holding the reins on things.
While that’s fair, I’m still not a fan of how different the life experiences of Nate and Nora are, I feel like both should have been veterans or their careers should have been left ambiguous. With a military background you can fill in a lot of blanks, like you could have been a sneaky commando, an officer, a mechanic or technician, there’s so much room to explain why your Nate is the way he is, while with Nora you can be the dumbest antisocial melee monster in the world, but you’re always a Lawyer.
@@InquisitorThomas Not sure how that's unfair though. I imagine plenty of lawyers would want to bash people's faces in if they had the chance. Plus I think it does more in the duality of morals within an individual, as the law is not justified to be necessarily "right" or "wrong," whereas a soldier can always be reprimanded from morality by only being a follower of orders.
that microphone moment is actually really sad imo
it must remind him/her about their life, the plans that almost happened. for Nate he was going up there to make a speech and that must remind him of his wife since she was going to attend i'm sure
for Nora is must have been worse, remembering that her husband was going to make that speech i'm sure as any couple does, he practiced with her at least a few times.
At around 19:30 you mention a holotape. If you go to post war sanctuary and do some dialogue with Codsworth then he gives you a tape from Nora, if you are Nate of course. This is probably the holotape Nora was thinking of giving Nate.
Change that pfp
Cash Flow change that attitude.
I really wish there is an offical storyline to revive the sole survivor's spouse, I know there is a mod out there but the pasted together dialog is far from perfect.
I know. In fact, even those imperfect mods can make the story feels more emotional.
I had my male sole survivor join the Brotherhood of Steel cuz after the collapse of humanity the military is really all that he still knows and the Brotherhood is stable forced to concede the questionable orders but during times of desperation and War he would have received similar orders from the generals in the US Army during the war nothing he's not familiar with
What about the MM?
@@matthewjones39 he'd have to be the leader of the minutemen, and depending on how you want to headcanon it, he probably wasn't a commanding officer in the military
27:24 Oh my god, the feels...
Charlie Parker when i skipped to this i got a fortnite ad
Holy shit, you weren't wrong about the feels
i almost cried
seconded. ;n;
That was well done
Well, my soul survivor is a Skeleton who wears a bathrobe and sombrero while he fires a banana gun that shoots more bananas. So, that's what a turned him into. *A funny looking skeleton. After years of work and losing his son and wife, he is a skeleton. Poor, poor, Nate.*
I'm so glad he's still finding stuff in fallout 4
Yea, pretty surprising considering the extreme lack of lore. Props to Oxhorn.
Yea fallout 4 best one ever love the rpg.
MegaMitch187 No looks to good to be a mod pretending
Jakodoe Yeah gotta love videos about the worst fallout game in the franchise
Understandable that's a valid opinion, have a nice day
God your story telling is something else bro... the unison "I promise" bit was master craft lol.. my spine hit the ceiling. 🇳🇿✌🤘
You know Oxhorn, the sole survivor changing how he lives after going through that much trauma is something I hadn't even considered. Thanks for giving me the new angle.
I feel like there were a lot of assumptions made in the Nora part of the video that have no evidence to back them up. Ox says several times that Nora "just" got her law degree, but it seems far more likely that she was a lawyer for at least a few years before having Shaun, especially since she had her own office and aide. It's far more likely that she worked her way up to that position rather than starting there. Also, she talked about the case getting her "back in the game," which means she had a game to begin with. This is supported by the fact that she had the opportunity to choose her own clients, which you can only do if you're fairly successful or don't care about making any money, which is unlikely with a kid. There's no explicit indication of when she got her degree. Additionally, he said that the only way the couple could have saved up money was if the US military paid really well. This is not true, as it's based on the assumption that Nora just started law. If she had been in law for a few years already, and was at least moderately successful, as is indicated by the fact that she has an office and an aide along with the ability to choose her own clients, then it would have been fairly easy to save up some money as a buffer.
GreenbloodLady
Soldiers do get a decent pension when they're decorated and retire
The FO universe is mostly lkke that of the 50s, with little deviation in general attitudes
He likely served long enough..or with enough distinction that her law degree doesnt matter that much in terms of raising the kid
In a highly militaristic time with recruitment trying to be ramped up..you don't give speeches to random soldiers
He was likely seen as a hero and being used as a tool for recruitment, part of which means that he and his life are essentially set
So that his comfort can be seen and used to show what YOU could have if you join the army
How do you know she had the oportunity to choose her own clients?
because of the 2 professional entries.. she said she wasnt going to take the first case, and would do the second one pro bono.. so she chose not to do first one and chose to do the second one free.
Thanks and sorry for the dumb question. I just didn't notice while watching
Codsworth: Mr. Drfvgedrfbvge! Welcome back, sir!
"Mr Assfuck"
-Codsworth 2077
Mr. DoleDippers
"Mr. Erectus!"
The Wanderer he actually called my Mr. Wong or Mrs. Wong he did so despite me playing as a Chinese communist spy 🤣😂😅😂🤣
The Wanderer "Mr. Fuckface"
Nate gunned down Canadian POWs, Nora defended him in court. War crime power couple.
Nora is as vile as nate is. Someone should make meme on nora being ruthless lawyer like Jimmy McGill.
@@Chosen9038 no she is is like saul
The role playing aspect I think was the most debated part of the game in the fact that most people found it difficult to role play a bad guy given the starting situation the Sole Survivor finds their self in. I have to agree with this. However, I really like the fact that the Sole Survivor's back story was flushed out a little more with the terminal entries and I think it can help those players that wanted to play a bad guy actually play a bad guy better...a tragic bad guy.
For Nate, if I wanted to play a bad guy, I could use the fact that he knows war is hell and wants change to send him off the deep end when he wakes up and finds his son gone, wife dead, and world blown up because humans never changed. It could drive him deep and dark and he could focus that rage and sadness into mindless wrath or vengeance, or even be role played as a dead soul, uncaring and unattached to this new world.
For Nora, I could use her powerful sense of justice and have it warped as she finds that the universe has shown her that justice is only an illusion. She had worked hard, saved money, had a beautiful son, a loving and heroic husband, and was just beginning to take on a case defending the little guy against big government. Everything was going her way, and then, the bombs hit. In an instant, her son, her husband, her career, her money, her entire life was gone. The universe was NOT just. Justice is a figment of imagination...a collective lie told by society to keep people from true justice, her justice. Her views could warp as she realizes that some truths she believed in such as property ownership and legal fault are really phantasmal aspects of a fallen society that sought blame for life's misfortunes. That true justice lay in the ability to acquire property and protect it as she saw fit. That a person's life is not inherently valuable since the life of her husband was so nonchalantly taken and her son was lost. Maybe that warps her to believing in "might is right" justice and she will take from this world as the world had taken from her!
As always, thank you for the comprehensive and wonderful work, Ox!
17:00 "Gonorrhea good flight"
I'm never going to unhear this 😂
YESSS OMLLL YOU JUS MADE MY DAY THANK YOUUU
“Don’t they know, it’s the end of the world? It ended when you said...
Goodbye...”
So there I was, coming back to this brilliant video, crying towards the end. Surely it's a good idea to go through some comments. Excuse me while I listen to Diamond City Radio with my puddle of tears 😂
(In my best DJ voice), Ahhh, what memories, what memories from nineteen- hundred and sixty three... (
haha at 9:11 notice how it says “Humans Only, Codsworth Eyes Off!” 😂😂
Seeing my spouse being shot again Really sent shivers down my spine... I played as Nate and that really is something. Honestly there the coolest couple in fallout
20:15 Well, Shaun did eventually become the devil at some point...
God, that's dark.
+ Lavian Vi The protagonist didn’t turn men, women, and children into Super Mutants. Didn’t necessarily destroy entire settlements. So it’s not really comparable.
+Lavian Vi. unless one turns the sole survivor into a literal monster of a human-being (mini-nuking settlements etc) then most of what you kill consist of... raiders, gunners (more disciplined raiders) institute gen 2 synths, super mutants (who are on their own genocidal path) and other freaks of the wasteland like deathclaws yao guai radscorpions and mole rats and assorted wasteland bugs. all of the above are killing machines in their own way and you're making the commonwealth safer by dispatching them.
My sole survivor was all about finding Shaun, but Kellog came first in her mind- she wanted him dead. The Minutemen became her family. Preston I like to say took her aside one night after a particularly brutal killing of a Raider and she whispered "That's what I want to do to the bastard who killed Nate."
Nick Valentine I want to say became the person who inspired her to not stop caring for anyone she could, and meeting Maxene I want to say would be like meeting a mother figure. You would want to stay and protect her, only to find out she is fully capable of protecting herself.
When she met Shaun, she cried, but when she found out what he'd become, she killed him outright. A 45 caliber slug was her farewell present, and she then killed the Institute... but not before sounding the evacuation order.
Post game I say she would retire to The Castle and work on getting the Brotherhood to leave or to help settle and make the Commonwealth safer. She'd lead a team called Zero Hour, a crack team of power armored wearing Minutemen who deploy to handle serious threats, like a Raider attack with heavy weapons or a deathclaw outbreak. Preston and her would grow old and make the Minutemen a great force for good... before the likely outcome of greed and the sort causes the group to splinter due to poor leadership.
James Ice mine is a Vietnamese spy though Codsworth called me Mr.Wong even though my name is Ho Chi Min 😑😑😑😑
Woah, no need to be so full of yourself. We really don't need your fuckfaces backstory.
Mine is a German Spy because I really wanted to play as a Spy of my country i used the cheatroom for him but I only leveled him for stealth.
I killed Shaun after he asked me to kill the Railroad members, so he wasn’t on his deathbed. I doubt he was go the other guy either if he killed him after finding out about Shaun’s crimes.
Lavian Vi it's a fucking GAME
I always end up making Nora (now, Eleanor :) a peace maker with high charisma, intelligence, and perseverance. She works on helping people around her make a happy safer world, as she seeks to find her missing son and find justice for her husband's murder. No matter what happens around her, she refused to let circumstances get her down or turn her into a monster. Never giving up hope and enduring the toughest of the wasteland, she will not give up and finds comfort in helping her many friends (companions).
I am a fallout 4 diehard fan. It's addicting building workshops and helping settlers.
And i like to almost allways choose to sarcastic option when possible because those really are some of the best line of hers
I always figured Nate would have a much easier time surviving in the Wasteland simply because of his training from the army being good enough training to keep him several steps ahead of the typical Raider. Nora seems like she would be a lot better at talking her way through a situation than fighting, which wouldn't always work with the several psychopaths littered through the Commonwealth.
As for my who my Sole Survivor became? I always had my Nate completely normal, the way he was in Pre-War America, simply determined to find his son. But his mind began to fracture and break when finding out that the new leader of the people who took his son, IS his own son. He began getting distant from the companions he made. He worked with the Minutemen to destroy the Institute, and never was able to forgive himself for it. He didn't take Synth Shaun with him, as he felt that his family was dead, and there was no bringing them back. He continued traveling the Commonwealth, pushing away his companions, ignoring his responsibilities as the General of the Minutemen, and becoming a broken, angry, dangerous man. I also imagine that one day he would leave the Commonwealth, the only signs of him left is what you see in the main menu. I imagine this because the main menu looks a lot like the Sole Survivor either died, or left the Commonwealth, leaving behind several of their belongings. (Such as their Pip-Boy) I don't know what will happen to my Sole Survivor after he leave. That will be up for him to decide.
Bat Doot He leaves and eventually becomes the leader of the raiders at Nuka World, his mind completely fractured from the harshness of the wasteland.
47th Heaven Actually he didn't. If I had been more specific in my comment I would have noted that he destroyed the Nuka-World Raiders. He goes through the events of Nuka-World before any of the other DLC. He leaves the Commonwealth some time after the events of Far Harbor. To be more specific about this as well, his mind begins to truly crack because of DiMA's questions about him being a Synth leading to him not knowing if he is or not. This added with the stress of survival in the Wasteland, AND losing his entire family, he leaves the Commonwealth to leave it all behind.
Congratulations on role playing in an RPG which isn't actually an RPG
shytoastgamer 4 Thanks. It wasn't as hard as some people told me it would be.
Bat Doot I don't think the role play was ever hard to begin with. I think many just don't try hard enough because the character talks. Yeah it's different but I like new things, even if they don't work at first
That said, damn you thought yours out really well. I just destroy everything with a mini gun that shoots mini nukes owo
I did Nora (named her Elizabeth Warren)and she was for the first half dark and just wanted revenge but after being with Hitchcock,they fell in love,she also has Shawn back(as in Robot Shawn)
In the end I did two playthroughs and started two others I never finished.
For Nora, I did a playthrough where she joined the Brotherhood out of respect and admiration for Nate's past. She was a stubborn, strong, rough woman who stuck to her resolve when made, which ultimately made her kind, but also vengeful and a grudge-holder. Since she held Nate in such high regard, she ultimately saw a peace-keeping organization like the Brotherhood as the ultimate response to the destruction of the world. In the end, after Shaun's death, she abandoned sanctuary, moving out to Spectacle Island and fashioning her own fortress. Her only companions robots, and all of her losses and regrets being too great to handle. Ultimately she never remarried or fell for anyone else, as she was too shocked by the death of her spouse, and couldn't move on, nobody were there to help. I would imagine that the Brotherhood scribes and soldiers were proud of her accomplishment, but that the Brotherhood, like many military organizations, didn't typically spend lots of time profiling their comrades. As such, they assumed Nora was fine given she had defeated The Institute and save the Commonwealth, but sadly the truth was that Nora was devastated that her vengeance-filled quest to save Shaun ultimately ended with him dead. She couldn't accept that, after everything that happened, there was no reset button that she had mentally convinced herself had somehow existed. Despite her solitary living, if you needed help in the Commonwealth, Sentinel Nora was there. She mindlessly devoted her life to helping the Commonwealth, destroying raiders and mutants, and always played her radio so she never had to think about the past. She always wears Nate's wedding band.
For Nate, I did a playthrough where he joined the Minutemen. Ultimately, he wasn't as aggressive of a person as Nora, so he was often polite to a fault, even when being angry would have been a better response. Nate was more likely to try to find a solution, as his years in the war had left him with minor PTSD that made resolving conflict with diplomacy his default mode of action, which something wasn't always the wisest course of action and often led him to getting into situations he could have easily avoided. With all of the war history he had from his family, he decided the best thing to do was to turn the Minutemen into the police of the Commonwealth, people there when you needed them. While still distraught over Nora's death, my Nate, unlike my Nora, surrounded himself with people, and ultimately made the Castle his home, where he speaks with those like Preston and Ronnie on a regular basis. The fall of the Institute and ultimate death of Shaun was hard for him to take, however unlike my Nora who was simply rewarded with honor by the Brotherhood but ultimate left to deal with her pain alone, I'd like to think Preston, Ronnie, and the other Minutemen helped Nate accept the situation so he could make the Minutemen something his family's history would be proud of. Eventually rising above his pain, Nate returned to the Vault to properly bury Nora near the house in Sanctuary. It would be over a year later, but he would begin spending time with Piper. He would never forget Nora, but he was ready to accept that his old life was gone and couldn't be brought back, and he had to live in the world he was a part of. I'd also like to think that Piper is aware that he will never truly forget about Nora given his circumstance, and is ready to accept that.
DarkMetalMusic THAT WAS DEEP
Geez milady
You immersed yourself a little too much in the game
I love the minor detail at the top of the family terminal that reads “Humans Only - Codsworth, Eyes Off!!”
oxhorn: steps into houses and instantly starts talking gibberish
*cait tolerates you*
*reflects on the psychopath he's turned his female character into *
*shudders *
So you asked who we chose and who we made the character into...
I chosen Nate and made him go from a loving Father and Decorated Soldier into a Mentally Broken Character.. Loosing the only happiness you have could turn the kindest into a Monster.
As in he became the Overboss of Nuka World?
LMAO sometimes you people scare me
And turn nora into a manipulative bitch who turn people against each other (charisma and stuffs) 😈
personally, when i went for the first time into the wastes, i chose to be nate. I chose to make him an avenger, more interested in getting revenge on those who would harm his family than anything else. mostly because, even early into the investigation its pretty clear, whatever his son became, synth, man, dead, it was under the influence of the people who killed his mother and stole his life. he would never be the man he was supposed to become as the son of nate, and for that, in nate's eyes, it might have been worse than death.
nate may never really get his family back, but he can be damn sure the ones who took them suffer for it. so, that was nate in my game. he was a hardass, he wasnt emotionless, but he didnt help everyone who asked. he sized up the quality of the people he met, and if he found them wanting, he left them to rot. asking for help doesnt guarantee it, and the nate i played made sure you deserved it before he helped you.
So Nate was practicing his speech in the mirror at the start of the game?
Lora Elstad that's cool
To me, that was obvious from Nora's line, but, I must ask, what did you think he was doing? XD
noooooooo way
Hey Ox, I love your channel. I watch your videos every day, and I really appreciate the great content that you produce. Thank you
But wait, there's more...
Dead eye is the only blind super-mutant😅 he's a melee super-mutant that has low perception(so he's surrendered by mines so he gives a challenge).Look at his face, he has a rag over his eyes
Slight correction - the 108th would be Nate's Division, not Battalion.
well, regiment
My husband is in the army, we googled Nates regiment and everything after the USS Constitution quest. Nate was part of a unit in New York
In the year 1945, my great-great grandfather, serving in the army, wondered when he'd get to go home to his wife and the son he'd never seen. He got his wish when the US ended World War II by dropping atomic bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki.
The World awaited Armageddon; instead, something miraculous happened. We began to use atomic energy not as a weapon, but as a nearly limitless source of power.
People enjoyed luxuries once thought the realm of science fiction. Domestic robots, fusion-powered cars, portable computers. But then, in the 21st century, people awoke from the American dream.
Years of consumption lead to shortages of every major resource. The entire world unraveled. Peace became a distant memory. It is now the year 2077. We stand on the brink of total war, and I am afraid. For myself, for my wife, for my infant son - because if my time in the army taught me one thing: it's that war, war never changes.
My original SS chose the Institute. She did everything to find Shaun and listened to him about the Institute and it matched up with what she'd experienced with the quests she took to help people. She wanted the railroad to be able to work with the Institute like the Minutemen would, but she couldn't just let the Institute's resources go to waste, especially with her being given control by Shaun. She shapes The Institute in her image with her morals, which turns the "evil" faction good in her mind because she's going to use their resources to help people and save the commonwealth.
I like how oxhorn somewhat reads into everything, assuming everything might be a clue or something useful. It's kinda funny sometimes but it's part of what makes him so thorough and fun to listen to.
Even with these terminals setting their "good" personalities I still think that the bombs dropping could still create an evil persona. All of that trauma could create a evil sociopath.
"The park. With you. Because I want to get pregnant again."
Possibly my favourite line in the entire game.
Cait tolerates you
IronicJokes Cait hated that
Wonder what happened there
The newest oxhorn meme
IronicJokes the mythic, legendary
*STRONG LOVED THAT*
I prefer to play as Nora because I feel like Nate has too much of an identity. He is the “right” choice for who is probably more capable of saving their son and helping the wasteland. I feel that Nate’s past experiences would make it easier for him to adapt to the wasteland. Nora might have been shown how to use a gun or defend herself. She might have some basic survival skills and instincts but that is for the player decide. It makes since that she would need time to learn and grow into a real killing machine that most people become when reaching higher levels unlike Nate who really should be better trained then Nora. I think the story has more impact with Nora especially with the information we learn from military bases. Nate might know some of that information already while it is definitely new for Nora. I like to think of how these new experience would make her grow and change and how her previous life experience would shape her new life in the commonwealth.
PB&J I couldn’t agree more. I love Nora :’)
Honestly, Nora may not have as big a military insight, but she does seem to recognize some of the higher-tier equipment (options in When Freedom Calls to comment on power armor's effectiveness and such,) which assumes that perhaps she's been on-base before and maybe even got to see things like Power Armor and such before Anchorage. Perhaps not the stalwart vet like Nate, but on the other hand Nora also has quite a bit of Mama Bear mentality when it comes to the lines regarding Shaun and avenging Nate. What she lacks in training, she makes up far more in drive.
Agree but my reasoning is female shepard, cause Fem Shep is best Shep.
Maybe she was actually a special/covert ops agent and is more skilled in a wider variety of fields than Nate.
Or, since she was a lawyer, you can roleplay that she was a Mob Lawyer.
After playing 6 Fallout games like 47 times, im satisfied you aren't overthinking Shaun's little devil costume
Its so funny when you find skeleton on a toilet
The bomb drops while you are taking a shit, hahaha, even funnier if you had spicy food yesterday, drop the bomb in the toilet, butthole still burns though.
@Mako Vi look I know this was posted half a year ago but I just don't understand why you were so upset by this comment like it keeps me up at night
Especially when that skeleton is face-down in the toilet bowl. Nothing truly cures a hangover like instant nuclear demise.
Ox, just wanted to say that I absolutely LOVE your videos! I've been watching you do so long and have told all of my friends about you. So keep being you. Love you bro.
Crazy Playz i need to find the Guy who shoot me
i need to find my father
And when they finally reunite with their son, not only is he now 60 (meaning they’ve missed out on his whole life), but he’s basically become a monster...
That’s why I roleplayed that my Sole Survivor finally took his own life in Sanctuary Hills. :( Nothing, not even Cait or Piper could pull him from the abyss.
Well Oxhorn looks like you have more lore for Nate...
This man: has a huge build with awesome weapons and armor
Preston: “Take this laser musket”
The reason why Nate has such a high pay check is the following:
Base pay- his normal paycheck
Basic housing allowance- money given to pay for his home to help support his family
Combat pay- pay for combat zones
Hazardous pay- pay for being in a zone that hazardous to life
And he also gets paid for any achievements he earns, like rank, or medals. We never know his rank but he's clearly higher than E-4.
Also BAH is determined by the cost of housing where your dependant is living, Massachusetts is expensive so at least 1.5-2k a month on top of what Nate already earned.
It appears not many know this but there is dialoge in the game files were nora is also military. Which makes sense given how common it is to use the military to pay for college. It explains so much about them, how they met, how nora is able to walk out of a vault and immediately start killing everything just like nate, how she earned her degree, why they talk about dusting off her degree, and how they talk about this new life that started only a year ago.
Well to be fair using a gun isn't that hard and you'll get a lot of practice in the wasteland. My problem though is how she can operate power armor so easily. In the past games you needed special training. I gave Nate a pass since he was in the military but she's just a lawyer.
Pelcogo but even that is explained by that dialogue. I was also referring to her proficiency at killing immediately after leaving the vault.
I agree, I wish it had been more prominently featured in the base game. There's no way Nora didn't have some military experience. Being able to fire a gun is a whole lot different than being able to survive in a firefight. And that's not to mention using power armor right off the bat.
Well at the beginning all she's fighting are rad roaches and mole rats. Maybe hunting and practicing at the firing range was a hobby she had with her husband before the war. I think they may have retconned how difficult it is to use power armor considering even raiders can use it and 50's style Greasers.
I agree with you pelcogo. At that time Im sure everyone knew how to use a gun in some sort or fashion and like he said he would have trained her for self defense.
Nate the Rake
Hello fellow Halo fan
Oh my god! i cried with this vid Ox. i loved it
Didn't even think about that.
I wonder about everyone else before the war
A neat side game that could be made for the fallout series could be one with an entirely pre-war setting, perhaps with several character types to play as, each having their own distinctive storylines; a detective looking to solve a vital case, a criminal trying to smuggle illicit goods past military checkpoints, an agent trying to catch chinese infiltrators or vice versa, or even just a normal working joe going about the average american existence.
If it was done as a VR title as well, it would be even more interesting!
The way you edited them saying their last words to their spouse actually made me tear up, great job dude.