A Profile of Nate & Nora - Plus, the Fraternal Post 115 - Fallout 4 Lore
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Nora: "I'll find who did this..."
Nate: "and I'll get Shaun back..."
(Both together): "I promise."
*Tries not to cry, cries anyway.*
Ikr. It is really sad that we could not decide our spouse fate later in game. Imagine if we could later decide Nora's fate later in game. I mean in somepoint on Main questline your enemy faction attacks your settlement where Nora is and you can either choose to complete quest that somehow influence end game decision or try to save your spouse that also have some influence to end game decision....
I know there's a mod to have your spouse as a companion, but I wish it was canon. And that would be great if you had to make a choice between saving your spouse or the quest.
Promised to find Shaun. After building a settlement, travelling to far harbour and rule an amusement park.
yeah it was pretty good
It's so sad
NEED TO FIND MY SON. Holdup lets build settlements, go to far harbor, become the overboss, and help my companions with their personal issues first.......Shaun who?
I just sort of role played like Shaun didn’t exist, like I’m just a random guy that got out of the vault. I used console commands to skip the main missions.
Diavolo finds his son and kills him because he makes synths
+Diavolo
Reminds me of this XD
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I sure do love Shawn the bramin, he's the best bramin.
Shawn !!! just wait a second or three weeks, my settler needs goofy hats. It is very important my son, they need matching pink headlamps.
"I'll get Shaun back, I promise..."
Proceeds to loot every desk fan and roll of duct tape in the Commonwealth to build the perfect vacation home on Spectacle Island
gotta get that *A D H E S I V E*
dont forget the wonderglue
and the vegetable starch
My character just eats his cereal
Or Ended Killing you own Son
@@GloriG_C17 yeah 😔
"Why Do You Write Down The Locations You Visit"
Me: There Are Surprise Tools There That'll Help Us Later.
The holotape reminder was the "Hi Honey!" Holotape Codsworth gives you at the start of the game. He tells you he thinks it was supposed to be a surprise from Nora. I could be wrong
When I l listen to that I started to cry
@@midas2920 same here bro
One on the floor at the bottom of the bed, I ended up with 2 copies 😂
I cried the first time I heard it. And I find myself being very sad every time I listen to it.
he also says it was a surprise from Nate
Even Shaun secretly smokes
Ohhh so that's why her has cancer
@Slighty Psychopathic oh no
Yes Shaun put that pack of cigarettes there on the table those damn tobacco companies just keep trying to market their products to younger and younger demographics every day now even babies smoke well shit....
And drinks, found bourbon in his bedroom
SHAUN
Of course Nora would use Nate's lines at the 115 podium. She is honoring her dead husband's memory by using the words that he was to say at that gathering.
Probably both.
Francesco Vassallo go back to /pol/
Don McCollough Thats what I first figured too.
It's more like understanding and embracing. Now she know what does it really meant for nate.
Very true... listen to how she says it...theres sorrow in her voice... Nate says it more seriously.
"I need to find Shaun!"
And then comes a distant voice: "There's settlement that needs your help, I'll mark it on you map."
"I already forgot who Shaun was."
GODDAMNIT PRESTON SHUT THE HELL UP!!!
Lol
LMFAO
That's deep
AAAAHAHAHAHA
Me in 2077 sitting in a rocking chair looking into the distance: War....... War never changes.
My whole family including the deceased: STOP QUOTING THAT STUPID FALLOUT GAME
I hope I live to 23rd of October 2077 just so I get to say war never changes at exactly the time of the Great War no matter where I am or what im doing
Well I hope I live that long so I can make that same comment. I'll be closer to 100 years old then, so I guess not :-P
MGS4 did it better; "War has changed..."
Ginger Lady Lmfao meming never changes
@@Spidersox1989 I want to be alive at that date so I can nuke the world
Hearing them say "I promise" at the same time... Chills, man.
Spyglass feels too
When i was just reading your comment, all i hear is, "I promise." Good timing.
Spyglass BRONYS!!!!!!
Spyglass wait fallout eqestria brony that's unusual
Spyglass not gonna lie. I kinda cried a bit
My Sole Survivor became a pissed off mother who steam rolled through everyone who got in her way.
Sounds like a typical Karen
@@CaptFordo-zp4nl Nah, she did not demand to see anyone's manager, plus, a Karen would NEVER be as unselfish as my SS. lol Not once in game did the SS EVER use her kid to get what she wanted from those in charge. A Karen would not be willing to become a bullet sponge to get their kid back. They'd let OTHER people do that for them and they would STILL demand the poor bastards they used compensate THEM for supposedly traumatizing their shitty kid who couldn't be any more oblivious to what was going on around them.
So you see, it's not even close.
Sounds like my mom tho ngl
In my game Nate adopts a new identity Damien De Sardet. Whatever he was before that is gone. All that's left is a vicious mercenary. He aligns with the minutemen and the railroad. Every other faction is a temporary alliance.
Outside those two main factions he's willing to take most jobs. Only after squeezing the cilent for every cap they have. His viciousness really comes out against Gunner, ferals, mutants and raiders. As a melee focused character. He quiet literally rips them to pieces. It honestly feels like the good guys use him as an attack dog. Instead of dealing with problems that would spoil the reputation of the minutemen. Preston sends him to do the dirty work. De Sardet goes along with it sense he's still in the anger stage of grief. So i guess you could say his idea of therapy is different.
Mine brought peace justice and security to his new empire
“If a courier gets shot in the head he won’t be the same”
well yeah cause he’s dead...
*me not noticing it’s referencing new vegas*
lol
"you..... you idiot"
Perception 1
I bet Benny felt like a fool, shooting the courier, turning him into a doomsday device, worse than any of the bombs that dropped in the Mojave...
At least he survived
Well, considering she knows how to use weapons and armor, my guess would be Nate and Nora met in the Service and Nora got her degree through Military Scholarship while Nate enlisted for another tour of duty
This is now my headcanon.
She was never in the military
My head canon was that she worked with the military as a civilian to save money for college.
Maybe she was a civilian that worked for them.
Neith she was a lawyer watch his video on ironsides and the big ass boat
I would be remiss if I didn't point out that Nate complains that Codsworth draws his bath too cold, despite the house of tomorrow not having a bathtub, only a shower.
Maybe he just moved to a new house and took codsworth with him?
It may have been removed in place of the shower at some point. Idk just an idea.
@Undefined Logic OR SCIENCE!!👍
It's also cut content so does it really matter
The Sole Survivor bathes in Codsworth's sweet, sweet tears. 😂
Turned Nate into a chem addict who has thieved from almost everyone in Diamond City.
I killed everyone I could
Then took their clothes
Ανασάσης Χατζηχρυσάφης lol me too
I turned Nate into a murderous psychopath who attacked diamond city with a two shot big boy because he was ripped off for ammo prices
@@alexanderstrattard2383 i turned nate into an alcoholic depressed person but try to keep a sarcastic badass persona around people
Now that is prime level PTSD
Nora's personality (what little we see of it) seems similar to Piper's. Easy to say Male SS has a type if he romances Piper
Given Nora's personality, she would most likely choose the circle option on the dialogue tree.
@@c.a.r1691 i use xbox but i can only assume thats the sarcastic option
@@famweefood7073 it's the "no" option, though the sarcasm option would probably come second
I like it when the guy said the speech at the veteran meeting area. Over 200 years but he eventually got to say is speech. It was so good the audience was dead silent.
👏🏼 👏🏼 👏🏼
Literally
“Fine I’ll do it myself”
Nate = Thanos
matthew homan so in 3 years?
"Impossible"
@@aloelover6012 is ur pfp some sort of chinese cartoon?
@@demarcusvonlaquaviouslxix7954 Uh no, she's from a Japanese RPG game called Hyperdimension Neptunia, which also had it's own anime.
@@demarcusvonlaquaviouslxix7954 chinese? CHINESE?!?! HOW FCKING DARE YOU, YOU INCULTURED IDIOT
I honestly dont wanna offend anyone from this but how the hell can you say animes are chinese, thats just stupid. But yeah, just don't call animes chinese. They're japanese.
My wife is an amazing artist, so when we got this game she made a close replica of my face for Nate, and then I played through the game as, essentially, myself. With headphones on (and a little THC) it was the single most immersive gaming experience I'd ever had, which was both a good thing and a bad thing. I found myself making a number of Faustian bargains to get Shaun back, including temporarily joining the Brotherhood of Steel so I could get Power Armor and survive the Glowing Sea. However, the moment I heard Maxson talking about ethnic cleansing I tossed a grenade and fled from there as quickly as I could, leaving him dead.
Upon my arrival at the Institute, I sided with them without a second thought. Shaun was my son, and we were going to be a family again, no matter how strange it was that he was older than me and so distant. I even executed the Railroad for him. My gosh! My old son looked so much like my grandfather, whom I had also lost to cancer.
It was after discovering that he was dying that I re-thought everything. The Institute had all this wonderful technology, even capable of allowing Kellogg to live far beyond a normal human lifespan, but they hadn't found a way to cure cancer? As far as I was concerned, Shaun was still a prisoner of the Institute, even as its director. He'd just been so brain-washed by them by now that he couldn't escape anymore, even if he wanted to. So, I turned to the Minutemen for help, and together we destroyed the Institute.
After we destroyed the Institute, I found that Shaun had given me a synth copy of himself. This was not the same as having Shaun back, but having lost a child in real life, a daughter, I knew I was the type of person to take whatever I could get. So, I brought him back to the Castle with me.
But the Brotherhood still remained, with their talks of ethnic cleansing of the synths, and the closest thing I had to a son now was the young synth called Shaun. So, I fought the Brotherhood alongside the Minutement. We destroyed their airship, and won the intense battle that ensued. With them gone, the Commonwealth was as safe as I could make it for synth Shaun.
War never changes itself, but it changes you. You find yourself coming back from it, and everything is different than it was before. Perhaps its foolish to say war never changes.
War changes everything.
Good roleplay
Wow, I love how you immersed yourself into the game.
Fuck.
Damn dude this kinda makes me mad. Your story is great, and I was trying to do something similar.
But I look somewhat like default Nate, so I didn’t spend too much time on his face, and his eyes are virtually the same as default Nate.
I don’t really feel like I’m playing me, and because of that, my decisions have been different.
I think when I log back in, I’ll make a save and sit down with the plastic surgeon for a few hours and perfect it.
I’m also going to progressively change my character, adding scars and things as I progress.
Unlike others on this comment section though, my goal for Nate is to be the wastelands steady rock, who stays on the good path no matter the trials.
I’ll still add scars as he grows, but he won’t become insane and violent over time.
Honestly I have really enjoyed having nick valentine as a companion because his nature is essentially the same as mine.
Nico Bones If you can call killing ghouls, mutants and robots ethnic cleansing.
I also joined the brotherhood just to get power armors. I haven't betrayed them yet, I will do it after the mission "Blind Betrayal", which is the best moment to kill Maxson and it makes sense in terms of story.
Nah Nora isn’t dead, she’s a companion according to my recently installed mod.
I love that mod i have it aswell love it
Nate and nora roaming the wasteland together.
Great comment btw👍
@@DidierWierdsma6335 Honestly, Nate and Nora would be such a wasteland power couple! As a Veteran, Nate would be the perfect fit for General of the Minutemen, while Nora's law degree would equip her to help establish and mediate a new Commonwealth Provisional Government.
No one Could Survive 44.Magnum Bullet in 0.5 Meters, If she alive should have been lucky. Shoted in Shoulder and Error Cryopod Door opening itself.
@@divergenttardis7378 NO, NOT THE CPG!! NOT AGAIN!
If Vault 111 didn't let the scientist go to asshole-ville, then many of the residents of Sanctuary Hills would probably establish something akin to Vault City or Shady Sands, Nate would do his early career as a caravan guard and probably teach his son to trick and rehabilitate the Institute into a more sane-er and humane society, as Director.
I love how when Nora says war, war never changes at the podium, she has a sigh after the first part. I interpret it as her realizing what her dead spouse means. She finally saw what Nate had endured and the horror of nuclear war. But as she expresses it, no one, not even the original speaker will be there to understand her
I turned Nate from a decorated U.S. Army soldier, to a decorated BoS Sentinel.
Darkrye231 same
Fits more with his background and all!
He might have been less sanguine if he knew that the Brotherhood was technically founded by deserters from the Army who deserted their post before the bombs fell.
Darkrye231 Me too!!!
Fuck yea AD VICTORIAM
What's pretty great is the nora companion mod. Yes it basically ruins the concept of romancing the companions out there but just feels great going out into the wasteland as a couple to kick ass and get back your son.
@Dancing Deity Could've made for a cool co-op mode too.
one of my favorite mods for the game, it reminds me of a fan written Fallout 3 story in which Amata leaves the Vault along with "Loyd"
@@JeithKarrett WHATS WRONG WITH YOU!! WE HAVE 76,CO-OP THERE!! ITS TONS OF FUN🤣😂
Its still a WIP,does it work properly??
Im affraid of using it. And do you have to be Nate or either is fine??
@@Dirtbag-Hyena Fun? That glitch factory fuckup is your idea of fun? You need help. If 76 is today's Fallout fandom's idea of fun then it's truly sad how far the franchise has fallen.
What if Nate is the one u portray in operation Anchorage in fallout 3
Maybe?
Highly possible.Since in Anchorage DLC of Fallout 3, you play as unknown war hero. And, considering the fact that male SS was a war veteran, so it highly makes sense.
Mind blowing
If it isn't it has always been my head cannon even though I play Nora, I love the idea you play Nate in Operation Anchorage as I said as head cannon, oh and Ox that las part was actually tearful, oh and if you look real close to that diploma it seems she not only has a degree in Law but a PhD in it, could be wrong and also in the haircuts for at least females is Public Defender so was Nora a PD?
@@subhankarbaral9236 it fits even more when you consider Nate/SS IS a Decorated War Hero. It would be very cool if we played as Nate
Nate the Rake
Hello fellow Halo fan
It's crazy how In a very short cutscene that I've played a handful of times you still show me things I missed. Never knew they had a dog, but lost it. Super sad, but makes dogmeat make complete sense. A human out of a vault, alone all but a robot. Seeing a dog would break either of their hearts, and I think they'd feel strongly inclined to "adopt" dogmeat.
156football i like the theory that Dogmeat was their dog and maybe ghoulified during the nuclear attack
@@AdrianBludfang Makes no sense but that's okay
+Adrian Valistar. idk about ghoulified, those mongrels out in the wastes are ghoulifed and they are grotesque. dogmeat i think is a mostly un-mutated dog but a dog who's ancestors evolved radiation resistance/immunity since the bombs fell, or were already immune to radiation and their breed survived the apocalypse practically untouched.
I guess Dogmeat could be a descendent of the dog that they had. Maybe you could play that off as the reason why they have such a close bond.
@@AdrianBludfang I don't fully agree given that dogmeat isn't a ghoul, but Sparky is. And I've always thought that sparky was once their dog.
This game allows you to play as the two most horrifying things in the world: A man who has lost his wife and had his son stolen and a women who lost her husband and had her son stolen. Let the carnage commence.
@Lavian Vi Are you really complaining about one meager thing? Calm down
@Lavian Vi Your comments all around the commentaries section of this video are mostly attacking other people thougts. Have some politeness man.
@Lavian Vi Ironically enough, it would be "learn them". But hey, don't let proper grammar get in the way of you attacking someone else for their grammar.
Manners and etiquette, learn them.
For us, yeah that would be the worst part of this. People in the real world have to deal with this, the rest of the Fallout Universe is (Fingers crossed) just fiction, so things like super mutants are out of our boundaries of empathy, whereas losing a spouse and child? that's something most people have a fear of
This concept was actually used in Fallout 3. U play as a son whose father leaves him alone to help the wasteland. And when u find your father, he has to sacrifice inorder to save the wasteland. Similarly to how sore survivor was drag into this, similarly lone wonderer was drag into the conflicts of the wasteland. That is enough reason to take revenge upon the wasteland.
Nate the rake
Or by accident.
*Falls in park*
Well im
*Pregnant*
Preganate?
God fucking damnit
She got pregranted
Préganté
the replies are so beautiful...
I Turned Nate into the general of the minutemen who speaks for freedom and justice
Ross Lambert I did to
racismmmmmmmmm NIGGA!! REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!
S E T T L E M E N T S ! ! !
All joking aside, I love the settlement building and choose the Minutemen both for the idea of rebuilding the Massachusetts Commonwealth from the ground up and for building the settlements. If ES6 has a building system like Fallout 4, I would be SO happy.
Ross Lambert and forgot about Shaun?
Yeah, that's great an all.....but another settlement needs your help
I think the shaun costume thing is foreshadowing how the player may see shaun, either someone who enforces law and justice and keep people safe or someone evil who can't be trusted
Lavian Vi it's too coincidental that he becomes the leader of one of the most hated and shady factions
Lavian Vi There's no pre-written main quest there either.
haha at 9:11 notice how it says “Humans Only, Codsworth Eyes Off!” 😂😂
Nate has a dialogue option later on that also reveals he's a baseball fan. In Publick Occurrences he can sarcastically respond to Piper when she asks how he's holding up, saying something like "My favorite ballfield was turned into a shantytown"
If there's anything I learned from nature documentaries, is you never mess with Mama.
DragonsRule06 or daddy,if anyone touches my daughter I'll blow his fucking brains out
Never mess with Mama indeed. She blew a whirlwind of death throughout the Commonwealth in search of her boy and justice for Nate!
I usually go with Nate. As to how things go afterwards? On my Minuteman character, his thoughts are this: he's pissed. But he's also used to fighting as part of a force. When he stumbles upon Preston and saves the Minutemen from the brink of extinction, and gets named General...he's found it. He sees what the Commonwealth has become - it's what he thinks of war, and it's hell in what used to be his backyard.
He's going to find Shaun. At the head of an _army._
Nate is disillusioned with war, but not freedom. And fighting for freedom? He knows a thing or two about that. But he's been trained to the pinnacle of U.S. Army training, with the ability to build anything, plant food, fire any weapon, wield power armor, hack computers, pick locks...he's the ultimate implacable man. _Nothing_ will stop him from finding Shaun and avenging Nora; but it's also not true that he'll stop at nothing. If he did, he wouldn't be the man that Nora loved in the first place. So, to build the army that will free Shaun, he'll build and plant and shoot and hack and pick, on _their_ behalf, first. After all - winning hearts and minds means winning at least half of the battle.
...And that's how my goody two-shoes character came to be.
Way late I know but I love this. That's a great way of reading Nate. (And I always play total goodie-two-shoes characters as well.) I'm playing Shaun's mother, but she has a similar way of looking at the settlements and the Minutemen: she's going to find Shaun, but she also wants to make this into a better world for him to live in. I hadn't seen the terminal entries before, but I think they fit. :)
I've had the Commonwsalth's despair: an Nate so angry and with so much despair he ends joining the Institute and basically purging the Commonwealth.
And General Nate: Angry and with despair, he still doesn't give up into insanity, and ends up figthing for the Minutemen
He is implacable, he can wield all kinds of weapons, has elite military training on survival and certain basic skills, the Commonwealth's threat is literally helpless against him, and he ends up liberating the Commonwealth, avenging his country and his family.
@@Gabriel-bu7fc Angry eh? Poor Preston and Minutemens Getting Order by him all over again After he have enough Doing all settlements jobs. From Freedom Become Dicatoric
@@GloriG_C17 In my headcanon rp lore after liberating the commonwealth, he and Piper get married, and go on with their lives at Diamond city as a married couple.
Nate simply sits down, and starts living a nice "urban" (We can't call diamond city an urban area i guess lol) and relax.
Well, that's my excuse for finishing that run
Still working on the Subaru-Nate run
@@Gabriel-bu7fc Nah, As Faction's Leader. He cant simply just "Running" away and Give faction responsibility to your right hand. He will Lives At the Castle, working. meanwhile His New wife lives at diamond city Making Press.
It will be cool if Second Super Mutant attack or Raider attack at DC and Minutemen Came to save for the second time, In order to not make Second mistake Like General Baker killed in combat, The General Gonna Stay at castle Monitoring The battle and giving directions with his Command Eyebot. Eyebot has a Speaker and a Camera Right? and Minutemen Can Make their own bots thanks to the Mechanist (If you spare her).
Hearing Nora speak at the Veterans Hall. Makes me tear up every time.
In my eyes, Nate, Nora, and Shaun all died. The world they knew is gone, and your journey is a rebirth in a new world, and one journeying to understand that everything you once knew is gone.
Fallout 4 having a voiced protagonist with a backstory was one of the most interesting aspects of the game imo, and I don't think it was necessarily a bad thing like many people made it out to be at the time, although there were a lot of details they could have executed better (such as being able to preview the voice line before choosing it, or having more than 4 choices at a time).
I honestly feel like it would’ve been avoided if they didn’t create Nora. But then again, they still could’ve kept both of their identities more discreet. I like the decision but there are aspects of anonymity that I wish could’ve been kept. Much more fun to create your own backstory
Honestly, them being voiced is one of my favorite things about Fallout 4. I know it somehow makes the role-playing aspect less real to most people, but it makes it more so to me. Hearing the character you play as actually emote with each sentence really brings an aspect of reality that you don't get from the standard silent protagonist. If they executed it better, I'm sure more people would see it my way. If they went with the standard Fallout dialogue option tree and not the whole "1. Yes 2. Yes, but sarcastic 3. Yes 4. No" options people keep posting about in every Fallout 4 video, it would have been something really special.
@@emissaryofcharybdis105 I totally agree. The reality is you can't go through life without speaking to get by, and it's not like the characters are going to hear you through the screen anyways. That's why I find voiced protagonist more realistic because they can at least interact with NPCs on the same level you encounter them.
If they make Fallout 5 in Seattle, they should reference you by having a house with a skeleton lying on a computer and a mounted horn that's got the word 'Ox' on it.
Screw that! Oxhorn needs to be the DJ for Fallout 5!
He needs to be a ghoul. Add him in the game as a sentient pre-war ghoul.
meandog1000 lol
meandog1000 Ha! You discover Ghoul!Ox in his bicentennial home just chilling at his computer. He glances at you and comments something like "You haven't even listened to half the holotapes you're lugging around, have you?"
And add more Norwegian raiders with terrible grammar. xD
I'm so glad he's still finding stuff in fallout 4
Yea, pretty surprising considering the extreme lack of lore. Props to Oxhorn.
Yea fallout 4 best one ever love the rpg.
MegaMitch187 No looks to good to be a mod pretending
Jakodoe Yeah gotta love videos about the worst fallout game in the franchise
Understandable that's a valid opinion, have a nice day
NATE THE RAKE
When you first return to Sanctuary after leaving Vault 111, and after you have spoken to Codsworth, you go into your ruined home and activate Shaun's crib, and Nora will say " I'm coming sweetheart" or Nate will say " I'm coming buddy". This always puts a knot in my stomach, and a tear in my eyes It is by far the most touching part, especially if you speak to Codsworth right away when you get to Sanctuary.
I've been binge-watching all of you lore videos lately and want to express my sincere gratitude for your content - the quality, narrative and editing are immersive and stunning. So thank you :)
Lily Whispers ASMR wait are you an asmr youtuber watching fallout videos
Same. Oxhorn has a way of getting a complete perspective on things and his content isn't dry either.
Fat
Some one did a fallout asmr
Lily Whispers ASMR do a fallout themed asmr video
In the artbook for fallout 4 you can actually see in the first version of the prologue that nate was awarded the medal of honor. It's laying in a box with his war memorabilia
Whose here after the "Nate's War Crimes" f up?
Nate the Rake
They should've kept it. It made Nate a complex character.
@@Blueon123 I mean, that is tame compared to the courier's past.
@@Blueon123don't worry, its canon no backsies
all we know is that nate is a war hero but not what he did to make himself a war hero maybe the government thought his higher body count of Canadians was commendable
This man: has a huge build with awesome weapons and armor
Preston: “Take this laser musket”
'll find who did this"
"and I'll get Shaun back"
You didn't tell us anything about try not to cry challenge
Those gloves in the art where Nate was touching the photo of his wife are actually currently issued US Army Aviation gloves.
This would be accurate, considering by the time Great War happened in Fallout universe, most US soldiers were armoured and had good equipment.
I had some of those for winter
Nate gunned down Canadian POWs, Nora defended him in court. War crime power couple.
Nora is as vile as nate is. Someone should make meme on nora being ruthless lawyer like Jimmy McGill.
@@brysendedios9038 no she is is like saul
If you click on the bed in the beginning Nate will say, "This is where the magic happens" am I right?
2:07 the boy in that scene is actually Nate, and the woman is his mother, I believe. Look at the bottle of Nuka Cola next to them, which came out in the year 2044. That is Nate being told the story of his great-great grandfather serving in ww2.
So was the US stuck in a permanent 1950s type culture from WWII to 2077? That's kind of lame.
Captain Sum Ting Wong, have you ever played the fallout games? No offence.
@@Alex-xr3bl No I have. I just assumed that maybe there had been some sort of cultural changes over a period of 120 years. Kind of strange that people would dress and act the same for that long.
@@Captain-Sum.Ting-Wong, that's one of the things that makes fallout so unique. It's the only post apocalyptic series that doesn't go full dark, but instead is a bit wacky at times.
I like that
"The park. With you. Because I want to get pregnant again."
Possibly my favourite line in the entire game.
I love the minor detail at the top of the family terminal that reads “Humans Only - Codsworth, Eyes Off!!”
“Don’t they know, it’s the end of the world? It ended when you said...
Goodbye...”
So there I was, coming back to this brilliant video, crying towards the end. Surely it's a good idea to go through some comments. Excuse me while I listen to Diamond City Radio with my puddle of tears 😂
(In my best DJ voice), Ahhh, what memories, what memories from nineteen- hundred and sixty three... (
17:00 "Gonorrhea good flight"
I'm never going to unhear this 😂
YESSS OMLLL YOU JUS MADE MY DAY THANK YOUUU
Oxhorn: careful for mines!
Oxhorn: mine blows up in face
"Who left those here?" That implies a guest left them and that neither smoke.
I think the surprise gift mentioned on Nora's terminal was likely the holotape recorded by your spouse that Codsworth gives you.
Also, I disagree that Nora had earned her degree "recently." Nate mentions Nora "dusting off her law degree," which seems to imply that she was working before the pregnancy and is just starting to think about going back to practice.
In our world, Suffolk University Law School is located in downtown Boston. It was located directly north (like, the next building) of the Orpheum Theatre, aka, the Combat Zone.
I had an interesting thought. What if they met while he was serving because she had to defend him or a friend of his. That would be interesting. Either way if I knew the back stories I would have invested more in charisma and intelligence at the start of my play through instead of a balancing it around high intelligence for faster leveling. Lol
Codsworth: Mr. Drfvgedrfbvge! Welcome back, sir!
"Mr Assfuck"
-Codsworth 2077
Mr. DoleDippers
"Mr. Erectus!"
The Wanderer he actually called my Mr. Wong or Mrs. Wong he did so despite me playing as a Chinese communist spy 🤣😂😅😂🤣
The Wanderer "Mr. Fuckface"
oxhorn: steps into houses and instantly starts talking gibberish
*cait tolerates you*
Well Oxhorn looks like you have more lore for Nate...
I feel as though both characters have a lot of venn diagram-esque overlaps, such as a tide for witty banter and convincing personality (let's be honest, you're not taking off my clothes in a park unless your words are made of gold. However, their backgrounds and principles seem to play heavily on what factions these two resonate towards.
Nate's experience in warfare and determined-yet-blunt personality fits him perfectly with the Minutemen and BoS.
Nora's ability to converse with enemies and intense intellect seems to fit her perfectly with the Railroad and Institute.
Their time with their child may also prove to be a major prospect onto what choice they make on supporting their child in his last few days to live. I personally feel Nate would have it easier going against Shaun than Nora would, and the psychological grief of risking it all to lose it all is what makes me feel she would make the better Overboss between the two of them.
Plus, it sounds like Nora's one to always be holding the reins on things.
While that’s fair, I’m still not a fan of how different the life experiences of Nate and Nora are, I feel like both should have been veterans or their careers should have been left ambiguous. With a military background you can fill in a lot of blanks, like you could have been a sneaky commando, an officer, a mechanic or technician, there’s so much room to explain why your Nate is the way he is, while with Nora you can be the dumbest antisocial melee monster in the world, but you’re always a Lawyer.
@@InquisitorThomas Not sure how that's unfair though. I imagine plenty of lawyers would want to bash people's faces in if they had the chance. Plus I think it does more in the duality of morals within an individual, as the law is not justified to be necessarily "right" or "wrong," whereas a soldier can always be reprimanded from morality by only being a follower of orders.
Oh i thought they didn’t smoke Because they didn’t know who left the cigarettes huh...
Same here, would explain why your unable to smoke while Curie here is bellowing out more smoke than a chimney.
Frozen Lizard you can download mods that let you smoke. I assume Bethesda didn’t think or care about letting the player smoke. The mod I have treats cigarettes and cigars as chems. Giving some positive and negative effects.
Ok I'm sorry but your username. 'Fuckable pancakes'.. *That's hot.*
@@sabrinaguzman6201 bro 😳
I have a smoking mod that creates a hard save everytime the Sole Survivor lights up. Really useful for Survival Mode.
So Nate was practicing his speech in the mirror at the start of the game?
Lora Elstad that's cool
To me, that was obvious from Nora's line, but, I must ask, what did you think he was doing? XD
noooooooo way
After playing 6 Fallout games like 47 times, im satisfied you aren't overthinking Shaun's little devil costume
Homie definitely was a war criminal 😂
You know Oxhorn, the sole survivor changing how he lives after going through that much trauma is something I hadn't even considered. Thanks for giving me the new angle.
27:24 Oh my god, the feels...
Charlie Parker when i skipped to this i got a fortnite ad
Holy shit, you weren't wrong about the feels
i almost cried
seconded. ;n;
That was well done
God your story telling is something else bro... the unison "I promise" bit was master craft lol.. my spine hit the ceiling. 🇳🇿✌🤘
Slight correction - the 108th would be Nate's Division, not Battalion.
well, regiment
My husband is in the army, we googled Nates regiment and everything after the USS Constitution quest. Nate was part of a unit in New York
I'm amazed you didn't talk about the cut content of Piper's Extended Interview with the Sole Survivor. Though the dialogue options are chosen by the player they offer insight into how they perceived the world and their profession.
*reflects on the psychopath he's turned his female character into *
*shudders *
I had my male sole survivor join the Brotherhood of Steel cuz after the collapse of humanity the military is really all that he still knows and the Brotherhood is stable forced to concede the questionable orders but during times of desperation and War he would have received similar orders from the generals in the US Army during the war nothing he's not familiar with
What about the MM?
@@matthewjones39 he'd have to be the leader of the minutemen, and depending on how you want to headcanon it, he probably wasn't a commanding officer in the military
I always end up making Nora (now, Eleanor :) a peace maker with high charisma, intelligence, and perseverance. She works on helping people around her make a happy safer world, as she seeks to find her missing son and find justice for her husband's murder. No matter what happens around her, she refused to let circumstances get her down or turn her into a monster. Never giving up hope and enduring the toughest of the wasteland, she will not give up and finds comfort in helping her many friends (companions).
I am a fallout 4 diehard fan. It's addicting building workshops and helping settlers.
And i like to almost allways choose to sarcastic option when possible because those really are some of the best line of hers
This may be a small comment that doesn't really change much, but are we sure Nora was newly graduated?
It may have been an oversight or a poorly made joke but there is talk about Nora dusting off her law degree. This would suggest that she was a lawyer for a good while before stopping for most likely maternal reasons. It is also more likely that she's experienced since she speaks very knowledgeably about the person who presumably she's never met is an innocent and knows what's going on in the system.
20:15 Well, Shaun did eventually become the devil at some point...
God, that's dark.
+ Lavian Vi The protagonist didn’t turn men, women, and children into Super Mutants. Didn’t necessarily destroy entire settlements. So it’s not really comparable.
+Lavian Vi. unless one turns the sole survivor into a literal monster of a human-being (mini-nuking settlements etc) then most of what you kill consist of... raiders, gunners (more disciplined raiders) institute gen 2 synths, super mutants (who are on their own genocidal path) and other freaks of the wasteland like deathclaws yao guai radscorpions and mole rats and assorted wasteland bugs. all of the above are killing machines in their own way and you're making the commonwealth safer by dispatching them.
I like how oxhorn somewhat reads into everything, assuming everything might be a clue or something useful. It's kinda funny sometimes but it's part of what makes him so thorough and fun to listen to.
The fact that Nate spells hell with an uppercase H makes me wonder if he is implied to be christian.
Cait tolerates you
IronicJokes Cait hated that
Wonder what happened there
The newest oxhorn meme
IronicJokes the mythic, legendary
*STRONG LOVED THAT*
My first playthrough I picked Nate and started the game as a Lawful Good War Hero type of character. By the middle and till the end, the trials of the wasteland basically had him turn into a pessimistic cross between Solid Snake and the Punisher
Please tell me he has an eyepatch.
And all these time the Vaultec guy was waiting at the door
27:21 This moment gave me chills! So well edited!
I always figured Nate would have a much easier time surviving in the Wasteland simply because of his training from the army being good enough training to keep him several steps ahead of the typical Raider. Nora seems like she would be a lot better at talking her way through a situation than fighting, which wouldn't always work with the several psychopaths littered through the Commonwealth.
As for my who my Sole Survivor became? I always had my Nate completely normal, the way he was in Pre-War America, simply determined to find his son. But his mind began to fracture and break when finding out that the new leader of the people who took his son, IS his own son. He began getting distant from the companions he made. He worked with the Minutemen to destroy the Institute, and never was able to forgive himself for it. He didn't take Synth Shaun with him, as he felt that his family was dead, and there was no bringing them back. He continued traveling the Commonwealth, pushing away his companions, ignoring his responsibilities as the General of the Minutemen, and becoming a broken, angry, dangerous man. I also imagine that one day he would leave the Commonwealth, the only signs of him left is what you see in the main menu. I imagine this because the main menu looks a lot like the Sole Survivor either died, or left the Commonwealth, leaving behind several of their belongings. (Such as their Pip-Boy) I don't know what will happen to my Sole Survivor after he leave. That will be up for him to decide.
Bat Doot He leaves and eventually becomes the leader of the raiders at Nuka World, his mind completely fractured from the harshness of the wasteland.
47th Heaven Actually he didn't. If I had been more specific in my comment I would have noted that he destroyed the Nuka-World Raiders. He goes through the events of Nuka-World before any of the other DLC. He leaves the Commonwealth some time after the events of Far Harbor. To be more specific about this as well, his mind begins to truly crack because of DiMA's questions about him being a Synth leading to him not knowing if he is or not. This added with the stress of survival in the Wasteland, AND losing his entire family, he leaves the Commonwealth to leave it all behind.
Congratulations on role playing in an RPG which isn't actually an RPG
shytoastgamer 4 Thanks. It wasn't as hard as some people told me it would be.
Bat Doot I don't think the role play was ever hard to begin with. I think many just don't try hard enough because the character talks. Yeah it's different but I like new things, even if they don't work at first
That said, damn you thought yours out really well. I just destroy everything with a mini gun that shoots mini nukes owo
that microphone moment is actually really sad imo
it must remind him/her about their life, the plans that almost happened. for Nate he was going up there to make a speech and that must remind him of his wife since she was going to attend i'm sure
for Nora is must have been worse, remembering that her husband was going to make that speech i'm sure as any couple does, he practiced with her at least a few times.
Even with these terminals setting their "good" personalities I still think that the bombs dropping could still create an evil persona. All of that trauma could create a evil sociopath.
Oxhorn: *walks around ruined house*
[Cait tolerates you]
Its so funny when you find skeleton on a toilet
The bomb drops while you are taking a shit, hahaha, even funnier if you had spicy food yesterday, drop the bomb in the toilet, butthole still burns though.
@Mako Vi look I know this was posted half a year ago but I just don't understand why you were so upset by this comment like it keeps me up at night
Especially when that skeleton is face-down in the toilet bowl. Nothing truly cures a hangover like instant nuclear demise.
I chose Nate, had him join the Brotherhood because of his military background, and he currently goes around the wastes righting wrongs and solving mysteries with Nick Valentine.
Juaggu productions I respect that but if he hangs with nick how is he with anti synth group. No judgement just tried to do that but I like Nick and Paladin Danse to much
Naa45702 yeah I know, I like to think that he's bringing the Brotherhood round to his way of thinking! 😉
Juaggu productions i mean im like ox there already here so we shouldn't be dicks to them
+ Naa45702 There’s a difference between opposing the Institute and how they use synths, and disliking synths. I’ve played a BoS protagonist who liked Nick, spared Danse, but saw the BoS as the best option to help people. A century of the Institute using synths to terrorize people is going to color how some folks view synths.
In one of my play through I randomly filled out my special chart and Nora seemed to be suffering from ptsd or something very similar cause when I scrapped Kellogg’s pistol she said “ can’t hurt anyone, anymore.” And after that she was fine. It was very unique and very different than your run of the mill play through.
Theory: Dogmeat is the missing dog
He gets frozen when he’s 2 years old and unfrozen a year before Nate gets released
Dogmeat is immune to radiation
@R. Heydrich and Nick can just call him, fair
The reason why Nate has such a high pay check is the following:
Base pay- his normal paycheck
Basic housing allowance- money given to pay for his home to help support his family
Combat pay- pay for combat zones
Hazardous pay- pay for being in a zone that hazardous to life
And he also gets paid for any achievements he earns, like rank, or medals. We never know his rank but he's clearly higher than E-4.
Also BAH is determined by the cost of housing where your dependant is living, Massachusetts is expensive so at least 1.5-2k a month on top of what Nate already earned.
Suffolk Law is a real-world school. It's in downtown Boston. It apparently exists in the Fallout world as well.
Well, it is the same world the history just diverges in the 50s
Not sure why no one else asked but, do you know where it is in-game? One of the reasons I love Oxhorn is because I generally go digging for lore in the Fallout games. So I was a little sad he couldn't find the location of her school. Especially since Bethesda put the Nate reference in. If you happen to know where it is, since you said it's in downtown Boston, let us know. Would be cool to try to track it down.
@@KeyWiteWolf perhaps its a collapsed ruin in suffolk
Mr. Oxhorn, I want to say I really appreciate your work and have seen your videos for years. You have a gift with this and i appreciate your passion on the Fallout 4 game you make it way better
Mudshrooze I read this like Codsworth for some reason (probably the previous tagged comments in this section)
Nicklas Polan
Lmfao
I guess your oxhorny
I actually think that neither of them smoke, they don’t say “who left those out” they ask who left them there, implying that maybe a friend or family member left them in recent days
I thought that at first, but there's a new carton of cigarettes in the cupboard in the passageway between the kitchen and the utility room - so someone in the household must smoke or else why have over 200 cigarettes at home? Also when you get quarters made for you by [that guy] , there's cigarettes and an ashtray left out for you so I guess one or both of them smoke.
Or it’s Codsworth /s
At the same time while Nate and Nora were doing it sixty minutemen was playing on the radio 😂😂😂 6:00
I know i'm late to this video, but what do you mean you don't know what Nora's first entry refers to. Codsworth gives you that very holotape at the beginning of the game!
LordGatz ikr. May have been an oversight. Perhaps Ox had the impression Nora was talking about something else?
So that means Codsworth disobeyed the "For Humans Only" warning on the top of the terminal?
@@slsthewriter1299 Codsworth was not allowed to read it, which he said he didn't, before giving it to the player.
@@rithrius5384 Oh that's right, I forgot that. I wonder if he tried to polish it though.
Well, my soul survivor is a Skeleton who wears a bathrobe and sombrero while he fires a banana gun that shoots more bananas. So, that's what a turned him into. *A funny looking skeleton. After years of work and losing his son and wife, he is a skeleton. Poor, poor, Nate.*
I’ve had this game since it’s release, and it was only YESTERDAY that I saw the dog bowl and learned that their dog was missing.
I’m glad it was mentioned.
Oxhorn's voice gives me the feels to litterally anything sad that he mentions
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O.o
Father(shaun):where was i made mother/father
You(nora/nate):you were made in a public park bathroom
Father(shaun): ;-;
I can imagine the sole survivor saying that in front of everyone. Shaun would die of embarrassment.
I think it was next to swans pond in that garden-ish place... and i say this with doubt because i remember something was hinting to it but i exactly cant pin point what it was
Why would he ask in the first place? Who even asks that?!
@@kittycat5972 that's the joke mate, stick with the program please
At around 19:30 you mention a holotape. If you go to post war sanctuary and do some dialogue with Codsworth then he gives you a tape from Nora, if you are Nate of course. This is probably the holotape Nora was thinking of giving Nate.
Change that pfp
Cash Flow change that attitude.
When you need to get a water chip, you become a different person.
personally, when i went for the first time into the wastes, i chose to be nate. I chose to make him an avenger, more interested in getting revenge on those who would harm his family than anything else. mostly because, even early into the investigation its pretty clear, whatever his son became, synth, man, dead, it was under the influence of the people who killed his mother and stole his life. he would never be the man he was supposed to become as the son of nate, and for that, in nate's eyes, it might have been worse than death.
nate may never really get his family back, but he can be damn sure the ones who took them suffer for it. so, that was nate in my game. he was a hardass, he wasnt emotionless, but he didnt help everyone who asked. he sized up the quality of the people he met, and if he found them wanting, he left them to rot. asking for help doesnt guarantee it, and the nate i played made sure you deserved it before he helped you.