2021 Sim Racing Cockpit Round Up!
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 21 ม.ค. 2021
- Taking a look at what's available as we enter 2021
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I’d go with the Next Gt Lite, as that appears to be the Cat’s preferred choice. Cats are quite intelligent ya know. Hmmm.
They are! lol :)
I have it. Its pretty nice. Just have to make sure you tighten the joints super tight or you'll take a tumble mid race.
Almost as smart as dogs. (Joke)
😂
Quite paradoxal, in the direct comparison video between the GT Lite and the Playseat Challenge, the cat was sleeping in the Playseat.
So good luck choosing now m8! :D
this is literally the exact video i was hoping existed but definitely didnt expect it too. your reviews are awesome, very informative and your calmness makes it very easy to absorb all the info. Im trying to decide on a cockpit and im leaning towards the one down from your most expensive one.
Glad I could help mate thanks! :)
I am just getting into Sim racing with my grandson. Great segment. Seeing them side by side and listening to the entire segment twice gave me some valuable insight. Thank you! Fred
Glad it was helpful Fred! :)
Another incredible review that covers absolutely everything people want to know! Top man
Seriously, thank you for your content. I'm just getting into sim and your reviews on the Challenge/Logitech wheels made my purchases so much easier. You do a great job giving unbiased informed information. Keep it up and happy Friday!
Which did you? choose
I've spent quite a few hours today (subscribed sometime last year) watching your videos, everything from your blue beamer, dodgy A/C unit, oculous quest, logitech wheels etc etc, and everyone of them has been top class viewing, keep doing what your doing m8 and i wish you further success, the cat is becoming a nice feature!
Very good of you to say so mate, thanks!
Fantastic video!! Apex stand with rear seat frame definitely meets my needs . Very sturdy and compact.
Another excellent video, thank you! P.S. How can anyone dislike Karl’s videos? His unpretentious style and real-world advice for working people are highly appreciated.
Mate there's always someone that doesn't like something, just the way of the world! lol
But thank you! :)
Best sim content right now , no snobbery “only £3199” DIY vids too . Karl the 🐐
lol Thanks mate!
yeah, hes the perfect person to watch for no BS content. ive just sent this to a mate who is looking to rim race
I have the Apex GT Omega. I think its superb value for money. Its rock solid . Ive had no issues with it at all when using my Fanatec. I use my armchair as a seat. Highly recommend.
Just discovered your channel. Great to see a local lad doing such a good job of covering sim racing, which I've started getting into in the last year. Hoping to upgrade the cockpit to something more substantial in the coming year and I'll be looking to your channel for guidance. Keep up the good work!
Thanks mate! :)
Guys, don't listen to Karl, he knows nothing. His cat is the brains behind the operation, so go with her recommendation.
Nice one mate, that's really helpful to see all these laid out together. I was thinking about the F-GT lite, but as I have Playseat Challenge I think I'd just be paying for the same with less convenience.
lol She really is! :)
The only reason to change would be if it was too small for you IMO..
😄
i have had the playseat challenge for around 18 months and its great. i use the fanatec csw 2.5 with the loadcell pedel and as long as you cable tie well its brilliant. im 6ft and 17stone and no issues for me. the force feedback is no issue and i feel it adds to it as the FF actually shakes the seat kind of like a motion rig, its great. well done Karl, i watch your vids all time and always find more relatable, my go to sim channel
Thanks David good to get your feedback! :)
You think a moza r5 would be fine with a playseat
Dude, thanks for your informative reviews. You really helped me in the minefield that is setting up a sim racing rig. Liked and subscribed 👍🏻
Glad I could help!
that wide shot is about the size of my apartment lol.
It is the full width of my house to be fair mate!
This video helped me out brother . 3 years later , thanks for the upload
No worries!
As always very positive and making me smile, great job man
I appreciate that!
Hey mate! Happy New Year and great to see the channel succeeding. Im still here and have loved all your videos. Keep up the good work!
Steve
Happy new year to you too mate! Glad to still have you tuned in! :)
the shot is amazing! I just ordered the cat's recommendation and should arrive tmr... and will get the GT Omega once I have more space, thanks for the reviews!
I ordered a G920 today and then found your channel. Now I have been watching hours of your content. I just wanted to say thanks for all this info. Now I have Playseat Challenge on my Honey list waiting for a better price. This channel has just got me excited to actually play the racing games that have been sitting in my Steam library not being played.
Welcome aboard mate and enjoy yourself, it's a great hobby! :)
You just saved me so much time money and sanity thank for doing this!!
Glad I could help mate! :)
Excellent video, thanks for doing this
No problem 👍
Good stuff Carl I appreciate you making this video
No worries
Great video. Seem like a top bloke, wish you all the success on TH-cam. This video helped me a lot.
Much appreciated!
Thanks Karl, brilliant content - thanks for sharing
My pleasure!
T150 and the Playseat Challenge were my starting points. I have t300 599 and trak racer rs6 now. Great video. Sent this to someone I’m trying to get into it
A quiver of SIM rigs! 🤩
Karl,
I just found your videos and they are very helpful, Thank you.
Glad you like them!
Great video, Karl, and no, you didn't chop your head off, but you know that already. Love your dry sense of humour.
Based on your earlier reviews, I bought a Next Level GT Lite setup. If you use the large strap (that holds the whole rig together in initial packaging) to further tighten the wheelstand, there is NO flex. Ultra stable. Next Level have a video on how to make the rig more stable, btw.
Love your work.
What a handy video. Thanks 🙏🏼
You're welcome!
Great video, Thanks!
You're welcome!
Outstanding video. Very helpful!
Glad you think so!
Thank you very much for this. I’m an older gamer, so much more of a casual player and I have only just now got into racing games. Finally seeing a review of steering wheels, pedals and chairs that is much more in my budget is a breathe of fresh air!! Thank you for the review you provided it’s helped a great deal!
Glad I could help!
Usually my first checkup when looking at gear. Chose my GTOmega Apex after watching your reviews of the wheelstand and the back half.
Hi, thanks for your review! I've just bought the prime cockpit with xl seat with your code, it's finally back in stock! so thanks for the discount & happy tp help your channel. P.s will be buying lots of accessories soon with your code. Thanks again!
Thanks David thats very much appreciated, enjoy you're new setup!
Good review showing great comparison between the rigs
Thanks 👍
I still use a abutto r3volution had it for 4/5 years now, got tempted to change it, but it’s just built like a tank, you could mount anything to that rig and not have an issue 🏁🏁
very informative, :) thank you its helped me a great deal
Thank you so much for this bro
No probs!
i watch to many of your videos to not sub, this one really helped thanks
Thanks for the sub!
Thanks for your videos!!
Glad you like them!
The only reason I got the NLR GT lite was because it already came with the shifter mount and I needed something foldable. Also I find it better than the challenge and if I enjoy sim racing I’ll definitely invest in something bigger and better I hope to buy the DOF REALITY H3 to get a full dive and then get into the whole direct drive
Bit of a weird question, but do you know if any of these would fit into a 65cm wide cubby with a shifter attached?
Budget isn't really an issue for me, but my only available area is between a desk and a wall. Doesn't seem to be an issue for a chassis itself for most from what I've read online, but just about nobody puts up the stats for how wide it is with the shifter on it.
Honestly I may also be down to just mount my shifter up next to the wheel on the main deck, but it's unorthodox enough that I'm not even sure if half of them could accommodate it, and certainly nobody lists that either.
God bless you for doing this! Great insite. I'm buying racing rig so thank you
You know... spot on in your first minute. I bought mine online, foldable. Which it is and it does actually fit underneath my desk (big desk). It's underneath my desk now :D Just not with the extra side attachments, i wanted a all-in-one solution, flight as well as driving. That didn't really pan out.. but anyway, it's huge and you standing there does not give any sense of how big it is. It caught me by surprise. Anyway.. still happy with it, driving in VR is definitely more immersive using a seat like that.
I got the next level racing - flight sim.(flying i will be testing coming weekend, i need the side attachments for that)
Great no bullshit review 👌🏽
If you use the spare strap for packing away the GT lite (assuming it's still in the package, mine is the original one) to tie the right hand side of the wheel deck tubing to the bottom right of the front legs, it's a lot stiffer, it also straightens the wheel deck out a bit if you've tightened the other strap up really tight (which pulls the wheel deck out of line) - also I only use the bottom half of the clamps between the pedal deck and the seat section, your weight keeps them together but I then just shift the back half out of the way and leave the pedals in place, makes it quicker as it definitely ISN'T that foldable lol (especially with a fairly heavy fanatec wheel, shifter and handbrake on it)
I bought the Apex based on Karl's previous review, using the discount code. Folds away inside my ikea pax wardrobe (just!). Bought an ikea Poang chair. Gonna give that a go (even though they aren't bolted to each other, yet).
Im looking at geting a cockpit instead of my homebuilt stuff and this video was to good help
Glad it was helpful mate.
Awesome video.
Thanks!
Respect for having Jammo's
your comparison videos are great! thanks for the coupon code!!!
Glad you like them!
I'm just looking for a rig what an awesome video! Thanks!
Hey karl! love your videos man, just wanted some advice. on which rig to go with. CSL elite Bundle, Load Cell and Mclaren steering wheel. Trying to get into the best Rig under $1000. Thank you. (playing on ps5)
ure cat likes the next level most xD
Great video!!!
Thank you!!
i had to rewatch the video because I was focusing at the cat the whole time
She is a beaut! :)
Appreciate it 😊
Meanwhile, I am using a Next Level Lite stand. A Garden chair. With two bungee straps for hooking my chair to the stands base 😂
A nice collection you are getting there Karl!
if it works, it works! :)
Recently came across your channel and have to say your vids are great. Have you tried or seen the GT Omega Titan and is it worth the extra £££ on top of the ART? Also what company do you think builds the best rigs for low/mid range? Playseat, GT Omega or Next Level Racing?
Is the x rocker xr racing seat the same size as the playseat challenge? They look very similar but xr is quite a bit cheaper.
I just ordered a GT1 Evo rig, i am looking for a really comfortable seat for longer stints that does not break the bank.
I'm 5'8" and 190 pounds. Any recommendations ?
Well done Karl 👍🏻💪🏻....waiting your review on next level wheel stand 2.0
I've emailed NLR to see if I can get one.
Thank you sir!
You are welcome!
I have the GT Omega Apex, started as a stand and built out to rear seat frame and racing seat.
I’ve got one of those annoying questions, Karl...
I own the GT Omega Apex and I want to buy a shifter and handbrake. Any suggestions on what would fit onto the shifter plate together?
Or any of your usual creative solutions ?
I know the Fanatec shifter fits and the handbrake would attach to the shifter itself but I heard the handbrake isn’t the best.
I was thinking the Aiologs set might squeeze on?
Hmm I actually think you'll be lucky to fit anything on there together, it's not very wide at all.
The Fanatec does solve this problem but that HB IMO is very overpriced and flimsy for what it is.
If it were me I'd either get a second hand HE HB (I picked one up for the price of a new Fanatec HB) and just whip out the drill and bolt it to my rig somewhere! :) lol
You may even be able to bolt something onto the outside of the shifter mount too! Aiologs do look like nice little units for sure! :)
Thanks for this lol
I see a Karl video, I watch a Karl video. Even if I have no intention of sim racing
Hi Karl thanks for another great review. You've inspired me to get into this addictive hobby and as a "Saga Lout" racer it's proving very popular with my grandson!! I picked up a decent Playseat Challenge which is great, but have seen a Corbeau Gameracer at a good price locally. Not too worried about the foldability of the rig so is there any advantage for the Corbeau? Keep up the good work 👍👍🤘
i have not seen a set of jamo speakers in years!! that brought back memories
Classic late 80's early 90's home audio! :)
@@KarlGosling can the GT Omega Art have the fanatec DD on it? btw great video found it helpful
I would love to see the comparison between the gt omega art and the apex wheelstand with seat add on. Love the vids karl!
Hopefully in the next week or so mate.
okay so like im 15 and 5 foot 2, will i able tall enough to use a cockpit cause i dont wanna dish out the money just to be too short (the one that is catching my eye is the playseat with the g920 attached so i'd like to know if i'd fit that specifically)
Yes you should be fine.
Right now i still have my playseat evolution alcantara but the problem is the wheel stand. Right in front of the brake pedal. I bought it in 2009 with a g25 and in 2019 i bought a t300rs gt. Great investment but unusable with a manual h shifter because of the frame blocking the pedals imo. I made a small wooden plate combining the clutch and brake pedal as one pedal because i don't have a shifter. Good for rallying, always left foot braking.
2023, still helpful for a newb. Tyty!!
I was looking at the basic package for the Fanatec DD pro with gran turismo coming out, do you have a recommendation for which stand would be best for the DD pro wheel? I would only get the 5nm one though, not the 8nm. Space is kind of an issue for me so I wouldn't be able to fit one of the larger units in my flat unfortunately.
I watched a few of your videos and they're really great and informative. Going to keep looking through to see if I can find one.
I would go with the GT Omega Titan, it has quite a small footprint and is very solid!
I have discounts in the description if you do go that way too :)
@@KarlGosling Wow, I didn't expect such a quick reply!
Is there anything else available that's a little lighter on the wallet or does the DD rule out much of that market?
im looking on thats compatible with a gaming chair i already head but iwant one that like holds my chair in place by the wheels so then when i push down on my pedals my chair wont roll away
OMG them Jamos 😍
Great review, Karl! I'm looking at possibly an RSeat, any way you could reach out to them for review?
Karl love your video's and you have helped me loads along the way as been growing into sim racing. Great style and just genuine geez.
I'm just upgrading from Logitech G920 to Fanatec CSL Elite and wondering if the playseat is enough as very tempted to upgrade also to the Omega Art with monitor stand.
Playseat will work fine, ART is way better though!
nice videos man
Glad you like them!
the cat! :)
Thank you.
You're welcome!
I have the original GT Omega stand(classic), converted to full cockpit. The pedal deck welds just broke on me last night... Right after I ordered my McLaren GT3 wheel and went through 2 rounds of customer service to repair my brakes for my V3's. Does the Prime have any flex in the pedal deck?
A very small amount, I do not notice it at all using V3's.
Watching this video on the big screen sat comfortably in my playseat 😄 (p.s. why am I still watching sim rig reviews even though i've got one already?)
Cause its a hobby you like
One thing I've been wondering... It's very difficult to get exact dimensions for all these products. Of course, you get the overall cubics of them, but to figure out some DIY build or else, it's not enough.
Now, seeing them all together here, I'm kind of wondering... maybe one could pair an IKEA Poang with a GT Omega Apex or something :D That miiiiight just fit. But maybe not for the armrest.
Regardless, brilliant review and comparison between all those various model. Hugely informative!
Hey Karl,
Watched quite a few of your videos recently as I am wanting to play Forza horizon 5 with a wheel/pedals/shifter and I will need a wheel stand aswell, however I am stuck as to which one to buy, so I was wondering if you could help?
Before I start I am 6 ft 5 so I don't know how I'd fit into play seats or Next levels seat stand combos, so I haven't listed them, if you think they are an option at my height id appreciate the feedback.
My options so far are
Gt omega apex - £119 out of stock :(
Gt omega classic - £95. ( Can you do the metal bar mod with this to make it more stable?)
Next level racing stand - £150 (silver foot plate one)
Next level racing stand DD £180ish
Is there any that I missed?
I am thinking of getting a Logitech g920/29, pedals and shifter for £150 on Facebook market place, so Ideally I'd like to spend less unless the extra £ is worth it on the stands.
Nice one, I guess you gotta declutter the room a bit already. :) Any plans about reviewing the Next Level GTULTIMATE V2? I have been toying with the "buy" button a few times already. I'm a bit short with room space and the fact it partially folds seems appealing to me.
Thanks for being honest
What do you guys recommend i get I’m just starting Sim racing games
Is the fgt lite really 6 inchs narrower than the gt lite?
Hey i have a question, I was interested in the gt lite but I’m 6’6, would I still be able to fit and would it hold my weight?
Yeah I think you would be fine, I've had a 6'4" guy in my Playseat! lol
Here’s an interesting question for you. I personally don’t have room for a full rig. I game on a custom built desk. I need a new chair. Previously I’ve been using a desk chair that I removed the wheels. My wheel is attached to the desk as are the peddles. Would you recommend the playseat or next level foldable rig over a replacement desk chair
@Jean-Philippe Duplantis thanks. The peddle deck and wheel mount are redundant for me
Karl thanks for your cockpit vids, they have greatly helped me with my purchase decision. I currently have an GT Omega Apex stand which was okay with my T300 but after upgrading the pedals to the load cells, which as we know need a hell of a lot more pressure on them, I know I need to get a cockpit and continue my steady sim race rig upgrade path.
After seeing your vids for the RS seat comparison and the Prime review and measurements follow up I am off to order the Prime with the RS9. I am 6'5 and 14st so it looks like I won't quite need the XL seat.
One last thing to ask as I click your affiliate link, I will need to move the cockpit over a hard floor. In the review you had carpet furniture sliders which made moving that hefty thing look well easy, and whilst I could get similar for hard floor I have noticed that in this vid your appeat to have caster wheels under your Prime. Were they straight forward enough to fit? Do they affect the cockpit during racing?
Thanks again, and I'm looking forward to watching the rest of your content now I'm subbed.
All a great choice mate you will not be disappointed! :)
Yes the castors just bolt straight on if you use M8 t nuts, I have a video showing me fit them if you search on my channel mate :)
Perfect, found it thanks. And once again very very helpful cheers 👍
Alright there mate. Im using a gt omega apex with my gaming chair, the chair having breaks on the wheels works fine, but Im thinking about purchasing the foldable with the chair attached, would it be worth the swap or stay with the apex + gaming chair?
I prefer a foldable like the Playseat challenge to a wheel stand, but it's personal preference really mate.
@@KarlGosling yeah im gonna get it mate, hopefully the seating position alone makes the difference 🤞
What one is the most sturdy?
I was looking at some of the fancy extruded aluminium jobbies to go with my Fanatec Clubsport V2 wheelbase and CSL pedals with loadcell add on... my wife had to inform me that my Christmas surprise was a Playseat Evolution Alcantara ..." It can be used wth Fanatec cos I saw it in the ad " she said... I was worried , the Clubsport V2 had taken 2 weeks to rattle my office desk to oblivion . On Boxing day I set my new toy up , I was nervous but I needn't have been... the pedals can be mounted directly bolted to the plate , I'm not bothered about a clutch pedal so the wheel support being in the middle isn't an issue , I was able to fix the Fanatec footplate to the pedal plate using zip ties and it is solid... especially when the two long bolts that I didn't need after fixing the pedals direct are used to support the front end of the plate from the floor , the two holes at the top drilled very slightly to accept the long bolts.. and the Clubsport wheelbase ? It's solid enough ....but it does send some feedback straight down the wheel support to the pedals ...WOW !!! WOW !!! WOW !!! I wasn't expecting that !! ....that's the annoying thing about wives... they are always right 😁 .
lucky in love and simracing i guess
I've now watched some of your videos, hope the Omega Titan is as good as your discount code. 😄
It's a decent cockpit for it's price mate yes! lol
Anyone know where to buy a small seat like the playseat that I can bolt to a homemade rig?
Do u think simLab tr1 team redline 499 euro is a sturdy and good quality one ? I'm 1.84 cm height ? 78kg
It looks ok but far too much money when you could buy a Titan for almost half the price.
I respect your T-shirt game.