Lol Shannon, Yea Jordan was in a tougher era. Lebron had to create superteams and still could barely win. After running through a weak East. Shannon lies for lebron all the time.
@@MALLYGEEZ1 The general skill level of Jordan’s Era does not compare to Lebron’s Era.. The ball handling, shooting, Speed and athleticism is on another level in this current Era.. Its also much harder to defend cause of the rule changes.. It goes both ways
You mean the way Shannon claims that you don't have to tear down other players to make MJ look good, when all he does is tear down MJ and his successes any chance he gets. Skip contradicts himself all the time but him and Shannon are two sides of the same coin.
Cause it unfathomable this is still a question, le“4-6“ never gonna be the GOAT, lol him and his nursing home squad aint winning anything, I guess the Disneyland chip the last banner for the lakers, its gonna be a long draught.🤣🤣🤣
@@darnellwilliams8783 who says he didn’t choke? Us Lebron fans acknowledge it. Jordan fangirls fail to acknowledge jordan being a horrible 3 pt shooter, choking in 95 and back to back first round sweeps
When Skip ignores Shannon's points thats when he wins the argument cos he only listens to himself. This argument is infinite when the other side is not going to agree. 😂
Playing 18 holes of golf is 10% golf 90% walking around and talking the notion that MJ wasn't friends with the guys he spent hours playing golf with is hilarious.
Facts imagine putting LeBron back then and he can hand check and so called play tougher (foul)…. Imagine putting all the superstars from this era and they can’t hurt people like back in the days, they’re way more bigger, stronger, more athletic and skilled than back then… they would absolutely destroy the league….. remember it’s way easier to adapt by just fouling and hurting people then to adapt and learn to do step back threes, half court threes, side steps, euros, one legged fadeaway, plus the level of ball handling and ball control that these guys have now…. People only think one sided when they make these arguments
Oh, Shannon said it, "I believe that you can praise MJ without trying to suppress anything LeBron has done", he said it on TV we all heard him, now he has to be careful.
@@alfarouqaminufor3892 That's just for entertainment purposes. They both have to pick a side. Shannon on multiple occasions has called MJ the GOAT as well.
@@KC-4u2c first it was alleged that he bet on golf. He met with Stern and was ultimately cleared by the NBA because he did nothing wrong. Stern was quoted saying that after all of that.
@@flamemoney5563 no if’s. Don’t put words into Sterns mouth. Stern was commissioner until 2014. Didn’t say that about lebron did he?? Or maybe he did. Can you show me??
Skip spends everyday talking about how lebron is friends with everyone and with a straight face says yeah Jordan played golf before a playoff game but that's different.
In Jordan’s defense, he spent golf time with his opponents to pick their brain. He took their friendliness for weakness and used it as fuel during game time
@@RetroFlight9 Yup, people that dont play golf dont know the fascination behind it. Much like chess, golf shows you your opponents mental weaknesses (Impatience, compulsiveness, passiveness, etc). By the time the basketball game start he was basically given a hack into his opponents mind. Just like Mike Tyson said, if you beat an opponent mentally before a fight the physical part is a given.
I don’t like what Skip is doing here! But Al is right. There’s no way Magic, Isaiah, Bird, and MJ would ever vacation together and especially get caught on a banana 🍌 boat together like Bron, Melo, CP3, and DWade! Never! That’s the difference in the eras!
what's wrong with having a good sportsmanship and being friends with other pros in your league ?! we criticize AB for destroying relationships with others but at the same breath criticize LBJ for doing the opposite ? wut are we doing here ?!?
Jordan sees other great player as his competition, even punched his own teammate Steve Kerr when he was owning him in practice. Meanwhile, LeFraud sees other great players as possible teammates. Tried recruiting KD then Kawhi, even when he already had AD on his team (who he also recruited, trading away his own teammates). One wants to compete, the other is soft and just wants to collect rings. Btw he also tried recruiting Steph last season but ended up getting Westbrick.
@@galliengb9888 I actually like LeBron, good dude, NBA's so lucky to have him as an ambassador of the sport, amazing role model and family man. Not a fan of his ring chasing. Oh, and also his constant whining to the refs. Outside basketball he's good in my book.
That’s also a black blatant damn lie. Otherwise Rodman never goes to the bulls Barkley don’t leave Philly Ron Harper don’t go to the bulls Barkley don’t go to the rockets Shawn kemp was almost on the bulls enough with that idea because it’s completely false! We just didn’t have the 24/7 access to the players to see Joe they felt and see their relationships with each other! And they’re all to old now to be going on several podcast telling it all. IT is one of the few that consistently does! And sometimes Barkley
Jordan had a tougher Era... Big Man on every team.. . 7 foot men on every team... They had hand check... No flagrant fouls... The paint was crowded ... No 3 pointers.... The players are not more styled .... They just shoot more 3.... They hand hand Check back then
Shannon set a trap for Skip and he stepped right in it with both feet. Skip was trying to established the point that Jordan was more dominant than LeBron because he won six Championships. Shannon asked Skip was Bill Russell more dominant than Jordan for winning eleven championships? 🤣😅 a classic way to use a person words against them. Good job Shannon 👏
Jordan Worshipers don’t count Robert Horry’s 7-0 because he wasn’t the star player on his team, and they don’t count Bill Russel because there were less teams in the league….anything to defend MJ they will discredit because there were players that did it better statistically. But because he’s Micheal Jordan, his career was perfect…I’m sure you see these logics don’t make sense. Double standards are crazy bro 😂
If you're gonna be disingenouos like that, then yeah, sure... by that "logic", Horry has more rings than MJ and is therefore better than MJ, right? However, that would mean he's also better than LeBron 🤡 I mean, he does have more rings than LeBron, doesn't he? More so compared than Jordan. Also, Pip has 6 rings. So by your "logic", he's as good as MJ and is better than LeBron 🤡 Not to mention Manu is just as good as LeBron because they both have the same number of rings The same with Steve Kerr and Fisher🤡 So, yeah, suuuuure Russell and Horry are better than MJ, but all three including Scottie, is better than LeBron. 🤡 Bronsexuals throwing whatever they think would stick just so they can put up an "argument" 🤡 Good try
@@JaySwavo And both of those are valid points... You honestly think someone is one of the all time greats if he wins 9 championships as a bench player? Context is everything...
Shannon: " Did the Big 3 Celtics hated Lebron" Skip: "No" They literally went on record saying they didn't like him, particularly Paul Pierce. Skip: "MJ was more dominant his era than LeBron because he's 6-0 in the finals . LeBron is 4-6" Shannon: " Bill Russel is 11-0 in the finals, so by your logic, he was more dominant than Micheal?" Skip: No Bruh, I can't with Skip 🤣🤣🤣.
@@robdawson5835 u didn't play in that Era so u have no validity to call it trash lol you couldn't make the NBA in Era. How dare you call professional athletes "trash"!? 🤡
@@robdawson5835 by your logic now is more competitive then the 90's curry kd James Hardin Luka doncic so many talents we have never seen doing things we never seen come on with the bs
Harder in Jordan's era: Hand-checking, fewer contact fouls on drives, hard fouls allowed to some extent, no load management, few/no tanking teams Harder in LeBron's era: Overall increased talent level in the NBA, faster pace, better conditioned opposition I think Jordan's era was slightly more physical but LeBron played against slightly better opposition, talent-wise (Thomas-Payton-Barkley-Malone vs Duncan-Nowitzki-Curry-Durant, it's close). In the end, it comes down to whether you value durability (4-6 in the finals) or clutch (6-0 in the finals); versatility (28 post season triple doubles and counting) or excellence (33.4 ppg in the playoffs, 9 all-defensive teams). I lean Jordan, but it is a personal preference.
How do you lean Jordan when you say his stat is 33 ppg when lebron does 28 plus 10 everywhere else... Thats maddening. I'm taking the other all day everyday. 28 plus 10x2 is 20. Lebron actually got 48 💀
Don’t forget that same Celtic team proclaim that MJ is the goat. And everyone that played in both eras say that MJs era was the toughest. Don’t you think they should know.
@@slimhardaway8 It’s not the media, it’s mostly ex-players. Old heads envy that LeBron did what they couldn’t- play in his prime until his 40s, make the team he wanted, use his own platform and off the court.
Simple, Jordan never called himself the chosen one. He just played like one. Watching James going to the basket sometimes feels like a globetrotter session. No resistance from his social media hommies. And Sharp, please stop shouting at all times to make a point.
I love MJ but this mindset that his way of winning is the only way is dumb. Kobe is really the only one that followed his blueprint and that's just how Kobe was personality wise. Bron got 4, Magic got 5 by being what they call "nice guys". Kareem got 6 being quiet. Duncan got 5 being quiet.
@@sdfishinn That's because Jordan was placed in a superteam by the Bulls management who got Pippen Grant Rodman and other stars for him. LeBron was constantly let down by the cavs management when he came into the league
They both took it out of context, Al was saying, Jordan played against players that wanted to beat him, all while, Lebron is in an era where everyone wants to join him
Jordan had a tougher Era... Big Man on every team.. . 7 foot men on every team... They had hand check... No flagrant fouls... The paint was crowded ... No 3 pointers.... The players are not more styled .... They just shoot more 3.... They hand hand Check back then
Honestly I’m playing harder against my best of friends or brothers than anyone. Competition is always higher when you know someone well because losing doesn’t end when the game does. You’re going to hear about it after the game from them, all week, all month, for however long until you play again and beat them lol. At least that’s how it went in my experience. So the games were always more physical and chippy the better I knew you.
Yea you can go harder because it’s actually more personal because since y’all have an actual relationship, that’s unlimited bragging rights. It means more to beat someone in cool with than to act like I don’t like someone then beat them
The funny thing is it’s not hard to look up footage of jordan’s era. I dare anyone to go watch some games and you’d be surprised how barely different it looks from today’s games. Old heads have taken a couple instances of fights breaking out or teams roughhousing a player and have largely overblown it to make it seem like you had to get punched in the face to score a point.
That's what you SEE in non HD. But they're pushing on shooters all the time. Dirty players like Bruce Bowen, Bill Laimbeer could not exist in today's NBA, if for no other reason than their signature moves are flagrant fouls.
@@TheHauntedKiwi Funny that you say that because skill wise those guys are perfect for the league Bruce Bowen would be a top 3 & D guy Bill was an early stretch big
jordan didn't lose in the finals lebron has jordan as 6 ring's in 13 seasons with retiring in between lebron as 4 rings in 19 seasons lebron is obviously not the GOAT but he will go down as the scoring champion of all time because he's longevity and commitment to basketball
I don't think it was about them hating jordan, but the competitive nature of the players were different. There's plenty of footage showing that Jordan was cool with other players and that he's had conversation with them, with friendly banter, but they also were more competitive back then. Granted the players today are more athletic but even the rules of the past have changed.
Skip is such a master of filling time with his collection of stories and quotes that are often repeated almost word for word and often times are completely off topic. Like you could ask him what he had for lunch and he would eventually get around to telling you about how LeBron collapsed against the Mavs.
See this is the thing about the 90s, we’re supposed to be made to believe that it was some Warzone when a lot of the players are on record saying that they hung out with each other Lol If LeBron truly isn’t beefing with any player him making a beef just for the sake of it is pretty lame in my opinion and it doesn’t really have anything to basketball Lol
Honestly watch ANY playoff game Chicago vs NYC, Indiana, or Utah from any year in the 90s and you'll see how hard they fought and it genuinely felt like they despised each other deeply. I am far too young to have experienced that live but now I love watching those games on YT because the intensity is insane. It's not even about them being friends off the court, they clearly had enough respect on the court to fight hard every single play.
@@GentM2015 That’s the thing, the playoffs will always have that type of energy. Watching Lebron’s rivalry with the Celtics, Pacers, Pistons, Spurs, etc. Those were incredible playoff matches.
@@notcoolkev3770 How am I supposed to show you a pic in a TH-cam comment section bro? But since you wanna bring up those specific guys both Charles Barkley and Larry Bird it made it to going to a Mike Tyson fight together with Michael Jordan and Magic Johnson
@@DatFeature No. But if you share the secret. everyone could be special and add another ingredient to make it better than the others. Sharing your knowledge is what makes you better cos they will share their sauce with you too. Have a nice day 👌
@@Thatguystill Are you sure? What I'm watching it's not the same. Shannon is arguing like Skip said something about his wife. Shannon is about to lose his voice. Lol!!!!
I’ll listen to a Guy that played Basketball not someone who played Football, Shannon knows dang well Football in the 80s and 90s was harder more painful than this era, I don’t like when old heads cap for this generation
As a Jordan fan, I don’t like this argument because Jordan and Lebron literally had no say so in the rules and how their era’s were shaped. The league Jordan played in was already like that as far as physical play and fights and whatever. I credit the Malice at the Palace and a few other things on the NBA cracking down on stopping that physical play and making the league “softer” if thats how you see it.
They had no say so but LeBron definitely benefited from a much softer NBA. Of course I can't prove this but there's no way LeBron plays 18 straight years had he entered the league in the 80s. His bully ball style wouldn't have worked period
i am too young to have whitnessed jordan's era but when watche the last dance and found out that mj went to play golf with danny ainge in between playoff games when they were facing each other in the playoffs, i couldnt believe it. and skip tried to justify it as jordan was trying to destroy him on and off the court. naaah. if lebron went to play golf with steph or kd during playoff matchups people would lose their mind. also plenty of clips showing how magic and jordan were good buddies and even bird and jordan had friendly trash talk. it was basically isiah and the pistons that hated him
Exactly!!! I'm 40 years old. I watched MJ faithfully as a kid and a teenager, and I'm telling you, Skip says a lot of things that just aren't true when it comes to MJ and 90's-era NBA.
You're disqualified if you weren't young enough to witness the Jordan era, the last dance only gives you a small sample, Jordan & Magic wean't good buddies they had respect for one another they became friendlier when on the same same dream team because that was the Olympics and the dream team experience, once again if you're too young just say you're too young, but don't go by the last dance to form your opinion
@@amenx he has 4 rings my guy multiple mvps and he’s gonna end his career 40k 10k 10k, average a triple double in everything for his career ion wanna hear nun about him or dominating, he made kd go to 73 win team , all his losses came from getting jumped except for mavs only loss u can count and that’s facts
MJ when shooting Space Jam brought in all the All Stars to film and to practice with during the Summer. I would say MJ was better friends with people in the league than LBJ is with people now.
When Dennis Rodman joined the bulls the 1st thing that MJ sting that MJ and Pippin bolt told him was you'd better not F up the chemistry of this team. And Dennis came from the bad boy pistons so put that in perspective
@@LandStrider23 no literally every Jordan worshiper/Bron hater are dumb, y’all come up with the dumbest logics to defend your MJ & I don’t even dislike MJ but y’all make people want to hate him because y’all have double standards at a all time high for any other player. Y’all wanna say LeBron got help by his superstar teammates, call every team he goes on a superteam, cry that he needs help or he got carried whenever he wins. But Jordan somehow won every championship by himself playing with scrubs, no all-stars, no legendary coach, just MJ. MJ not even the only person to go 6-0 on that team & there are more players with rings than Jordan that haven’t lost an NBA Finals
You mean the same MJ who was hanging out with Barkley while playing against the Suns in the finals? That MJ!? Lmao the revisionist history is strong with this one. 😂
To be fair, Jordan didn’t do that with many people and with Barkley much of that had to do with gambling/golf. It was a competitive relationship. A little revisionist history on your part clearly as well.
Lebron usually mentions young players to give them their due… Lebron usually gives up to people nothing wrong with that. Lebron has beef with Paul pierce…… Paul pierce does not like lebron. Lebron doesn’t care for pierce..
The game itself is softer for SURE. MJ’s eta was tougher for sure. The Pistons were given a license to hurt MJ. Regardless I’m impressed with LBJ’s longevity and his ability to still perform at a SUPERSTAR level at his age. Literally the best NBA players start to retire when their PPG drop to around 10 or lower. LBJ isn’t even close to that yet. Also with his skill set he can play as a PG at least until the age of 40. I never would’ve thought he could do this especially when he couldn’t shoot very well early in his career.
@@MyJBlack The league was more tuff back than with much less competition, players in todays game we sweep most players back then and Lebron James is dominating in an era with 2-3 all start on each team. Only a couple teams were like back then. Lebron is the goat and should’ve been established that years ago .
Omg his era was really tough gtf out of here physical isn't skill you know why scoring looks easy now in the nba because you can't just shove your arm in someone's hips for 90 ft lets see i wonder if jordan could keep lebron in front of him without hand checking prime for prime could jordan even beat these modern players now james harden kd kyrie bron Damian Lillard list goes on give me one team jordan beat in the finals that was better than the 17-18 warriors ill wait 🤫
Tbh if you acc look at highlight i will be honest man often mj could legit walk to the basket like it wasnt thsr tough lmao what competition did mj had? Milk man miggy
Dude, Jordan went through it man. Competition is tough today as well. But rules were different, and you could get away with allot more, technology was different. It was much easier to miss calls. It was even easier to ignore calls all together. Jordan went through it. The only way to contain him, was to lay him out. I saw him, he went through it.
@@RICHARDHENNESSY and as soon as Kobe and Tim Duncan came in league they lead their teams to rings….there isn’t a 21 year old about to lead a team to a ring today. KD, Steph, not allowing it…Kobe and Tim didn’t allow Lebron to win when he was 21; which goes to show that Jordan’s peers weren’t competition!!!!
This is the main reason why Most jordan fans are delusional, They only critique Lebron for not taking Jordans route but not any other player in history.
Objectively speaking the 80's and 90's was different to now players like reggie Miller and Karl Malone have said their era wasn't as friendly as today's game
@@anthonypatterson8796 at least they were trying to win. The 96 Raptors upset the 96 Bulls Lebron played against tanking teams intentionally losing games for draft picks.
Straight up, why does it even matter? It's not like LeBron picked the rules or who he played against so why knock him for it? It's like ragging on MJ for never beating Golden State, how could he? He was retired when they took off.
Let me just throw this out there. If LeBron is so dominant in comparison to everyone else around him, he's "dominating little bros". But if there was nobody else that measured up to Jordan in his era at all, wouldn't that mean he was dominating "little bros" too? And also, Mike was golfing with fellow players back then. I ain't never in my life heard of someone being on the golf course with someone they hated or even didn't like.
I wish they didn’t cut off the last part Shannon said. MJ never faced a KD, Curry, Giannis, Harden, KG, Dirk, Kawahi in the 90s. The 90s were more physical due to the rules, but now players are way more skilled and greater than the players in the 90s
He faced a top 5 pg of all time top 3 sf arguably the best point guard and best center of all time... yes his competition was terrible. Bird magic Kareem shaq penny Isaiah
So? 90’s players were more skilled than the 60’s and 70’s players… the question is who dominated more during his era, MJ dominated more his era in a more physical style of play, thats all the point.
@@a.t.francis2716 yes and benefited from it, which is not his doing, but has still benefited. He went from battling men to battling his lil nephews, again, not his fault he has great longevity.
It’s because 20 years ago the athletes were softer 😂 if they let Giannis go after KD, it would be a bloodbath! Back in those days, chainsmokers were in the nba
There are no Stephs in the 90s. Steph avg 42% 8 attempts pg 1. Mullin - 44% only 3 attmpts pg 2. Allen - 40% 3. Bird - 39% 4. Reggie - 39.5 5 attmpts pg 5. Hornacek - 40% 2 attmpts pg Old Mark Jackson beat Steph in a 3 point shoot out Old Mullin beat Durant in a 3 point shoot out
Its as if they forgot that Lebron has been playing since 2003, he was drafted after shortly after Jordan retired. Lebron was playing against men as a kid and now hes playing against the next generation as a grown man. The players now are far more skilled but they're fearless too. If they weren't competitive why would they complain about calls, play injured, fight the other teams players etc?
They don't play defense and wining and losing is not as important. They don't play when healthy, you're trying to convince me they play hurt? That's the point not whether one era was more talented, how competitive are these guys. Most of these guys aren't alpha males. The 90s stars were alphas of the Alphas
No the crazy talk is thinking that the whole world loved one man, And to think no one in the league didn't like him??? that is insane to think like that!!!
Didn’t Jalen rose embarrassed Skip by calling him “Water pistol Pete Jr”? What happened after didn’t skip and Jalen squashed it out? What does that make Skip?
Shannon dead wrong on this one. It was a tougher and more physical era. Jordan was the ultimate competitor. They also had to deal with hand checking in that era not now.
This era is more skilled so therefore it’s the toughest era to play in when random role players are having 30 plus every damn week u put them in MJs era they’re all stars without a doubt
@iwatchytvids5738 - more skilled? Offensively MAYBE. Defensively... well this Era has to play DEFENSE in order to be considered "better". Sit down kid!
@iwatchytvids5738 - a hand check nowadays is a foul. It wasn't then. Back then you had at least 16 teams that played almost full court defense. There is virtually no defense now. Back then, they would at times fistfight, now they yell insults. Back then, you played hurt. Nowadays you get rested because your veteran even though you are healthy. Back then, there were people battling in the paint. Nowadays their afraid to break a nail. Back then, this guy could dunk from the free throw line... I will wait. Back then, we have a jason williams. Nowadays, no one can pass like that. More creative, more fun, more intense, more HEART! Nowadays, yeah shoot the ball I won't guard you, that's complete garbage. Lastly the 96 bulls in 5 against the whatever the best warriors team you want. With KD, what was that 2017?
@@earnisill I know this but the narrative is Jordan didnt have friends and I'm saying he did but turned it off once the game started. I'm aware other players had this same mentality.
Jordans 96 Bulls had a couple of players in their rotation who might not even make an NBA roster in today's game. Yes the 90s were more physical and more top heavy in terms of stars but the average rotation player today is far superior than the average player then
Can You name who are those players ? You can have a team with 12 all - Star players ,You need súper Stars players but Also role players .the Celtics ,Lakers ,pistons ,Bulls ,rockets ,Spurs ,heats ,cuz the basketball is a team Game .
The league is very much so softer than back in the day. Bs flopping, the jumping into defender for fouls ( glad they changed that rule ) and all they do is shoot 3's. That's not much skill unless your Curry. Now don't get me wrong there's a damn good amount of great players in the league but it is waaay softer. Jordan didn't go out and recruit payers to come and play with him. He played with whomever was on his team and never quit. Lebrons great but he damn sure wouldn't be able to run over players back then like he does in todays game. I watch them part the seas for him. Wouldn't happen in the 80's/90's.
@@ShutThePuck wtf you talking about? LBJ been getting hated on since he was 18 yrs old? All you haters do is discredit him whether he’s right or wrong. Mans can’t even take a Shxt without y’all complaining
The point was there wasn't a free path to the basket if you beat your man. That's what he meant by a center led league. In today's game if you beat your defender you get a free basket a majority of the time. In the 80's and 90's you couldn't do that because a center and/or power forward was there to contest you.
@@johncena4096 I think he meant the centres back in the day dominated the paint so he dominated them driving to the hoop, todays centres are expected to be able to shoot from distance when in the 90s that was the pinnacle of guarding the paint and the era of the greatest centres like Ewing, Hakeem, Dikembe, DRob etc.
@@PinchingPennies1by1 Ok i get that but you could use the same logic with jordan. He didnt have to defend in an era with great perimiter scorers like lebron did for example kobe, ai, tmac, kd, harden, westbrook, giannis, steph, etc.
Jordan was and is friends with Barkley, Ewing, Magic, Bird, Kobe and many more, but the thing was when it was game time, all that friendship stuff went out the window because he wanted to beat them and their team. On the other hand Drip Bayless is embellishing a lot of stuff to push his Jordan worship and also enhances Shannon no objective Lebron praise.
@@mobetta2092 They definitely do. The NBA was tired of losing billions of dollars behind players out there brawling as what they termed as "thugs". To curve that behavior they started hitting players where it hurts- in their pockets.
@@izowiz You're an idiot go back and watch the 2016 finals and see the way Bron and Curry were going at each other. Guys still compete just as much if not more than guys back then.
Skip is so concerned with staying in character, that his points stop sounding logical, and I know he privately thinks this is an example of his gift of gab, and ability to debate any take, but really it just makes him look and sound like a liar.
LeeTravius McKay see this is what lebron fanboys do they deflect lebron had a meltdown in the 2011 NBA finals and got outplayed by Jason Terry. That automatically eliminated Levron from Goat Contention they actually played defense in Jordans era
@@darnellwilliams8783 then if anything you’re making his point. That this era is harder than MJ’s. Skip sounding stupid & lebron losing are correct, two things can be right at the same time
@@darnellwilliams8783 No one denies LeBron's chokejob in the 2011 Finals, y'all Jordan fanboys suck off MJ way too much, overlooking his failures, refusing to acknowledge them
The game has changed quite a bit since the 80’s and 90’s. Can’t really compare it because the game is not the same. That said nobody has come even REMOTELY close to dominating all the other players in the league the way Air Jordan did.
Skip needs to get over 4 and 6 in the finals. Getting to the finals is already a feat in itself. Being 4 and 6 is the not worst than 6 and 0. LeBron James has been in the finals 53% of the time in his career compared to Michael Jordan at 40%. Not arguing who is better, there is just alot more regarding the numbers than 4 and 6, compared to 6 and 0.
I’m sorry, does the league give out a 2nd place trophy to the finals runner up? Didn’t think so 🤡 L, only kids with a loser mentality would want to go 4-6 instead of 6-0 🤡
@@tmot6714 it’s better when the competition faces is tougher, it’s better when you do it with a team that’s a lottery team without you. The bulls literally went to the finals without jordan
I love the show but the moments like this where Skip really has the biggest double standards and his journalistic career/past really shows through when he won’t waiver at all from his first thoughts. He has to be right and will try to explain how someone else “made him wrong” rather than just being wrong. I love the show but Shannon makes the best points but Skip just waves them off as if they’re nothing instead of actually rebuttalling the statement or he just brings up another topic. Gets of tiresome sometimes but it’s kind of my fault because I knew from the title it was gonna be one of those videos
@@chrismoren1341 Sure, I don’t. Yet, you have nothing to say yourself just that you’re trying to undermine what I said by saying what you said. Good luck with that, you made no point and only wasted your time and mine. Clearly, I do know what I’m talking about and my statement is proven easily throughout the video. You’re the only one who leaves a negative comment while others like the comment. Mine isn’t even the most liked comment that stating the same thing as me. Read the room, bud, obviously you didn’t like what I said and only could come up with one conclusion that satisfied you enough to move throughout your day. Read other comments, so does everyone not have a clue? Or are you just that lost?
@@SamoaRobb it's easy to get frustrated with Skip he's a terrible debater. Shannon has just as many double standards (and has personal animosity towards Jordan that he tries to hide) in these debates but is much more affable than Skip and gets away with his terrible arguments.
Anyone who says Michael Jordan didn't play in a tougher Era are just on lebrons nuts. Jordan played in an Era where a close line and elbow was a foul. Lebron plays in an Era where a hand check draws a foul and staring at your opponent gets you a tech.
If you compare any average nba player today to Bird or anyone of their 80s, dribbling alone, decimates anyone. The offensive arsenal these cats have now are far better than anything last century.
Hand checking isn’t defence, moving your feet and staying in front of the person you’re defending is. Those slow in athletic players of the 80’s can’t compare to the ones now
these same topics Skip comes up with, I salute Shannon for having to make the same argument in a million different ways while Skip give you the same “6 for 6” “God in sneakers” narrative. atleast Shannon comes with new facts/stories on these same repetitive topics 🤦🏽♂️
No doubt it’s MJ. The reality is Jordan’s peak was higher, Lebron’s career has been longer, but he’s had the benefits of steroids his entire career to keep him healthy & also the rule changes to keep his body from too much damage & hand checking etc. LBJ’s game also has always had holes: FT shooting, turnovers & not the greatest jump shooter. Jordan’s game was flawless & had zero weakness!
Prime MJ versus Prime Lebron.... MJ destroys Lebron every time. MJ was a killler and a big game finishing closer. Lebron has never been and never will be a closer
People tend to forget that MJ had a little taste of the millennial time where he got obliterated every night on his wizards days.(I don't care if he was 38ish) Basketball players now has different skillset. They didn't had a PG who plays like Kemp back in the days or shoots better than Reggie Miller.
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Lol Shannon,
Yea Jordan was in a tougher era. Lebron had to create superteams and still could barely win. After running through a weak East. Shannon lies for lebron all the time.
@@MALLYGEEZ1 Fasho fam
@@MALLYGEEZ1 The general skill level of Jordan’s Era does not compare to Lebron’s Era.. The ball handling, shooting, Speed and athleticism is on another level in this current Era.. Its also much harder to defend cause of the rule changes.. It goes both ways
Skip is really dumb .. mj ain’t playing nobody he don’t know … 80% he know who he playing
I wish everyone had Shannon logic. It’s ridiculous how ignorant skip sounds.
Shannon: "did the big 3 Celtics have beef with Lebron?!"
Skip "No"
LMFAOOOOOO they will tell you to your face that they hated him
Is that why Ray Allen joined LeBron in Miami 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@Amb252 that's why the rest of team doesn't talk to Ray
@@Amb252 he left the celtics cos he ended up hating the celtics more than lebron in the end😂😂
Ray Allen lol
Harrington telling no lies its obvious
Imagine if Jordan and Lebron did an appearance on this show!! Skip and Shannon would be out of control 😂
That would be EPICALLY LEGENDARY!!!! I'd LOVE to see that happen! Especially to have both Mike and LeBron in the same place for once haha
🤣
That will never happen lol
I would love to see that
Set it up...
Pretty sure MJ shared a lot of his knowledge with Kobe
They talked alot, said he was like a little brother: Skip: sounds like hate to me 😂
That was THE ONLY ONE tho bec Kobe was about THAT LIFE like others aren't!
@@Mercurial. cap
@@tervilsnaider3103
Who u think of more MJ shared that with then Kobe of ABSOLUTELY BASKETBALL GREATNESS!
Il wait...⏳
Kobe said it on a podcast. He only gave advice to kobe cause he looked like him and had the same mindset....
Man I love this show 😭 I was crying the whole time for this debate 🤣🤣🤣 this is up there with some of their best debates of MJ vs Lebron
My favorite is when they put up their top 10’s. Skip didn’t even put Lebron in his top 10 and Shannon lost it 😂
@@bn2870 lmao I remember that one I’m telling you these two are golden
@@bn2870He put Lebron 9 though lol
8:23, LeBron giving Ja Morant credit was no different when Michael gave Iverson, Carter and Stackhouse theirs OMG!
you mean mj welcomed AI by calling him a midget right?
You forgot kobe also
@@ghostgurl17 that was Muggsy Bogues
Skip’s ability to stick to his position when he’s been caught out of position in a debate is legendary 🤣🤣🤣
skip thinks he slick
LEGENDARY!
money motivated 😂 def entertaining
😂😂😂😂
Hall of fame double downer
Skip had to set an all time record on contradicting himself throughout this debate...
lol
All time record 😁👍
You mean the way Shannon claims that you don't have to tear down other players to make MJ look good, when all he does is tear down MJ and his successes any chance he gets. Skip contradicts himself all the time but him and Shannon are two sides of the same coin.
but wait he talking about lebron and dray In the shop, wasn't jordan and barkley on opra talking about how close their friendship was lmaoo skip funny
@@dnice4145 what choice does Shannon have? Skip makes someone having breakfast in Mongolia about LeBron somehow
Shannon’s reaction at 13:32 killed me 😂😂😂
The double standards skip has is insane but hilarious when hes stumbling his words when shannon calls him out on it
John Cena no double standards lebron fanboys act like he didn't choke in 2011 NBA finals he got outscored by jj barea and Jason Terry
Yes
Yeah Skip is so obvious when he struggles to refute Shannon.
Big Al is right though. That fact is indisputable.
Cause it unfathomable this is still a question, le“4-6“ never gonna be the GOAT, lol him and his nursing home squad aint winning anything, I guess the Disneyland chip the last banner for the lakers, its gonna be a long draught.🤣🤣🤣
@@darnellwilliams8783 who says he didn’t choke? Us Lebron fans acknowledge it. Jordan fangirls fail to acknowledge jordan being a horrible 3 pt shooter, choking in 95 and back to back first round sweeps
I literally just watched Shannon address 5 of Skip's points and Skip swerved EVERY point without addressing anything lol Skip is LEGENDARY 😂
Wait. Thats what my wife be doing.
Skip literally was backed against the wall and his response was "I dont care" lmao Exact type of person you dont want to debate with.
@@AntTurner yet skip get alot of praise by lost folks in these comments
When Skip ignores Shannon's points thats when he wins the argument cos he only listens to himself. This argument is infinite when the other side is not going to agree. 😂
😂 exactly
Playing 18 holes of golf is 10% golf 90% walking around and talking the notion that MJ wasn't friends with the guys he spent hours playing golf with is hilarious.
I’m just imagining MJ staring at his golf opposition with a stone face and not saying a word as they walk between holes.
@@Owlsdontsleepatnight lmao I can totally see it
@@TriStar44 Lol I can’t
Facts imagine putting LeBron back then and he can hand check and so called play tougher (foul)…. Imagine putting all the superstars from this era and they can’t hurt people like back in the days, they’re way more bigger, stronger, more athletic and skilled than back then… they would absolutely destroy the league….. remember it’s way easier to adapt by just fouling and hurting people then to adapt and learn to do step back threes, half court threes, side steps, euros, one legged fadeaway, plus the level of ball handling and ball control that these guys have now…. People only think one sided when they make these arguments
@@MrGerring3 This point that no one makes. Preach.
Oh, Shannon said it, "I believe that you can praise MJ without trying to suppress anything LeBron has done", he said it on TV we all heard him, now he has to be careful.
He discredits MJ all the time to uplift Lebron.
@@alfarouqaminufor3892 That's just for entertainment purposes. They both have to pick a side. Shannon on multiple occasions has called MJ the GOAT as well.
@@alfarouqaminufor3892 Only cuz skip do that to lebron, but skip always change the narrarive
Careful about what???
@@alfarouqaminufor3892 when does he discredit Jordan? Lol
If social media was around when jordan played we wouldnt be having this convo
“Viewed Barkley as a court jester” 😂😂 skip savage
😁
The debate never ends
And you know why this is?
Money talks
Remember what David Stern once said about Jordan. “ You’re simply the standard by which basketball excellence is measured.” He is spot on.
@@KC-4u2c first it was alleged that he bet on golf. He met with Stern and was ultimately cleared by the NBA because he did nothing wrong. Stern was quoted saying that after all of that.
Yeah he was!! Now it's Lebron and Stern would tell you that if he was still here!!
@@flamemoney5563 no if’s. Don’t put words into Sterns mouth. Stern was commissioner until 2014. Didn’t say that about lebron did he?? Or maybe he did. Can you show me??
So quitting the game TWICE and gambling was excellence 🤡🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️
@@shawndun2119 on the court. “Basketball excellence”
Skip spends everyday talking about how lebron is friends with everyone and with a straight face says yeah Jordan played golf before a playoff game but that's different.
It’s different. Jordan wasn’t going to watch iverson in college or in highschool. They were coming to watch him. It’s different!!
@@notcoolkev3770 bruh what?
@@notcoolkev3770 tf you talking about ?
In Jordan’s defense, he spent golf time with his opponents to pick their brain. He took their friendliness for weakness and used it as fuel during game time
@@RetroFlight9 Yup, people that dont play golf dont know the fascination behind it. Much like chess, golf shows you your opponents mental weaknesses (Impatience, compulsiveness, passiveness, etc). By the time the basketball game start he was basically given a hack into his opponents mind. Just like Mike Tyson said, if you beat an opponent mentally before a fight the physical part is a given.
I’ve seen Skip dance a lot over the years, he’s never tap danced more than he did during this entire segment. He changed the argument 30 times.
Bruh 😭🤣 that was hilarious everybody
Facts
Unc kept nailing Skip down.
Right
I don’t like what Skip is doing here! But Al is right. There’s no way Magic, Isaiah, Bird, and MJ would ever vacation together and especially get caught on a banana 🍌 boat together like Bron, Melo, CP3, and DWade! Never! That’s the difference in the eras!
what's wrong with having a good sportsmanship and being friends with other pros in your league ?!
we criticize AB for destroying relationships with others but at the same breath criticize LBJ for doing the opposite ? wut are we doing here ?!?
Jordan sees other great player as his competition, even punched his own teammate Steve Kerr when he was owning him in practice. Meanwhile, LeFraud sees other great players as possible teammates. Tried recruiting KD then Kawhi, even when he already had AD on his team (who he also recruited, trading away his own teammates). One wants to compete, the other is soft and just wants to collect rings. Btw he also tried recruiting Steph last season but ended up getting Westbrick.
@@JohnnyBGood-vm7rx Lol bruh you sound like a mad hater.
@@galliengb9888 I actually like LeBron, good dude, NBA's so lucky to have him as an ambassador of the sport, amazing role model and family man. Not a fan of his ring chasing. Oh, and also his constant whining to the refs. Outside basketball he's good in my book.
It’s almost like wen ur a black athlete u can never be right or sumthing.
@@JohnnyBGood-vm7rx ring chasing? Isn't that the point.. winning chips??
I would say it was an era not where everyone hated each other, but an era where people wanted to BEAT each other rather than play WITH each other.
That’s also a black
blatant damn lie. Otherwise Rodman never goes to the bulls Barkley don’t leave Philly Ron Harper don’t go to the bulls Barkley don’t go to the rockets Shawn kemp was almost on the bulls enough with that idea because it’s completely false! We just didn’t have the 24/7 access to the players to see Joe they felt and see their relationships with each other! And they’re all to old now to be going on several podcast telling it all. IT is one of the few that consistently does! And sometimes Barkley
Bro only diff honestly is reporting. Now we all think we have the inside scoop so. The earlier era has more mystique.
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Yo Greg you are absolutely right sir so teaming up been going on
Jordan had a tougher Era... Big Man on every team.. . 7 foot men on every team... They had hand check... No flagrant fouls... The paint was crowded ... No 3 pointers.... The players are not more styled .... They just shoot more 3.... They hand hand Check back then
What on *earth* is Skip on about on this?
He's just contradicting everything he says I don't understand how he doesn't see this
Bro skip is just grasping at air hoping he can “feel” some lol
What about Shannon? Let them 🥜 go
@@mannyneva1760 Skip Is the one contradicting himself
@@user-um5dz9gt4o Shannon was on 100 emotionally…Shannon was talking about 💩 Al wasn’t even talking about…y’all Lebron fans crazy
So since Bron wants to help the other players level up he’s wrong? This debate is ridiculous.
Lol exactly
Tune in next week guarantee they will have even more new ridiculous debates on "the LeBron never not Disputed" show😂
It’s Ridiculous because Al Harrington went on all the smoke and called Bron the GOAT
@@omaidolor8929 what’s wrong with all the smoke podcast bro they seem coo
They have this discussion at least every 6 months. It’s getting kinda corny, they are both the best in the eras they played in.
Nick Wright said it best.."NBA in the eighties was slightly tougher, with much worse athletes"
More like once a month
Yes corny for sure. Every week same topic. Damn are the ratings going down? 😳
This discussion will never be corny, Bron=🐐🐐🐐
They have this discussion I'm sure twice a week 🤣🤣🤣 ..where you be at
Crazy how almost everyone who played in both eras says this and fans keep saying it's not true
Hits the spot.
Shannon set a trap for Skip and he stepped right in it with both feet. Skip was trying to established the point that Jordan was more dominant than LeBron because he won six Championships. Shannon asked Skip was Bill Russell more dominant than Jordan for winning eleven championships? 🤣😅 a classic way to use a person words against them. Good job Shannon 👏
Jordan Worshipers don’t count Robert Horry’s 7-0 because he wasn’t the star player on his team, and they don’t count Bill Russel because there were less teams in the league….anything to defend MJ they will discredit because there were players that did it better statistically. But because he’s Micheal Jordan, his career was perfect…I’m sure you see these logics don’t make sense. Double standards are crazy bro 😂
Anything can be used in an argument if you don't add nuance and context 🤷♂️🤡
Russell played in what a 8 team nba with a bunch of bums
If you're gonna be disingenouos like that, then yeah, sure... by that "logic", Horry has more rings than MJ and is therefore better than MJ, right?
However, that would mean he's also better than LeBron 🤡
I mean, he does have more rings than LeBron, doesn't he? More so compared than Jordan.
Also, Pip has 6 rings. So by your "logic", he's as good as MJ and is better than LeBron 🤡
Not to mention Manu is just as good as LeBron because they both have the same number of rings
The same with Steve Kerr and Fisher🤡
So, yeah, suuuuure
Russell and Horry are better than MJ, but all three including Scottie, is better than LeBron. 🤡
Bronsexuals throwing whatever they think would stick just so they can put up an "argument" 🤡
Good try
@@JaySwavo And both of those are valid points... You honestly think someone is one of the all time greats if he wins 9 championships as a bench player? Context is everything...
Skip moves the goalpost every question 🤣
Like lebron stans
Thats all bron fans do.
Wow great analysis.
Can anybody of u fools tell me WHY always LeShannon always SCREAMS to make his case like a mad man?! 🤣
He's hyped a.s.f.
..😂
Shannon: " Did the Big 3 Celtics hated Lebron"
Skip: "No"
They literally went on record saying they didn't like him, particularly Paul Pierce.
Skip: "MJ was more dominant his era than LeBron because he's 6-0 in the finals . LeBron is 4-6"
Shannon: " Bill Russel is 11-0 in the finals, so by your logic, he was more dominant than Micheal?"
Skip: No
Bruh, I can't with Skip 🤣🤣🤣.
Bill Russell Era was trash
@Paul Rodríguez in comparison to the competition level in 90's yes true
Well its true. Sharp said did they HATE Bron ..skip said no..then u said they went on record saying they didn't LIKE bron. So skip right..
@@robdawson5835 u didn't play in that Era so u have no validity to call it trash lol you couldn't make the NBA in Era. How dare you call professional athletes "trash"!? 🤡
@@robdawson5835 by your logic now is more competitive then the 90's curry kd James Hardin Luka doncic so many talents we have never seen doing things we never seen come on with the bs
Harder in Jordan's era: Hand-checking, fewer contact fouls on drives, hard fouls allowed to some extent, no load management, few/no tanking teams
Harder in LeBron's era: Overall increased talent level in the NBA, faster pace, better conditioned opposition
I think Jordan's era was slightly more physical but LeBron played against slightly better opposition, talent-wise (Thomas-Payton-Barkley-Malone vs Duncan-Nowitzki-Curry-Durant, it's close). In the end, it comes down to whether you value durability (4-6 in the finals) or clutch (6-0 in the finals); versatility (28 post season triple doubles and counting) or excellence (33.4 ppg in the playoffs, 9 all-defensive teams). I lean Jordan, but it is a personal preference.
How do you lean Jordan when you say his stat is 33 ppg when lebron does 28 plus 10 everywhere else... Thats maddening. I'm taking the other all day everyday. 28 plus 10x2 is 20. Lebron actually got 48 💀
Exactly
Overrated player. Lebron is great but not off all time.
@@KingBryz I think LeBron is better, but just comparing stats is difficult because of differences in eras and teammates.
@@maltoh you on drugs
You’re missing the point , this isn’t everybody hating Jordan it was Jordan hating everyone…….
Skip
An overrated quote from skip and I agree for that.
He's a true MJ die hard fan 😁
Skip just be talking in circles 😂😂😂
😂😂
Exactly😂😂
Exactly
Why cuz another nba player told the truth
Lol aye nobody like skip. We gotta cherish this comedy !
Skip confuses me everything he praises Jordan for the exact things he downs Giannis for.
😂😂great observation
Yeah this comment alone just proves bronsexuals are the biggest casual fans in any sport 🥱🥱🥱 how embarrassing
Giannis a bum..
@@worldlfree watch ya mouth 😂
@@worldlfree a bum who if he wanted can married either your mom, sister or even daughter.
Stop playing 😂
Don’t forget that same Celtic team proclaim that MJ is the goat. And everyone that played in both eras say that MJs era was the toughest. Don’t you think they should know.
Why can't we respect what MJ did in his era and what Bron has accomplished in his? I guess that's asking too much.
People love the what ifs and hypotheticals
The media gotta put food on the table
@@slimhardaway8 It’s not the media, it’s mostly ex-players. Old heads envy that LeBron did what they couldn’t- play in his prime until his 40s, make the team he wanted, use his own platform and off the court.
@@julian5699 they don't like how James had hand when it comes to hurting the game of basketball
Simple, Jordan never called himself the chosen one.
He just played like one.
Watching James going to the basket sometimes feels like a globetrotter session.
No resistance from his social media hommies.
And Sharp, please stop shouting at all times to make a point.
I love MJ but this mindset that his way of winning is the only way is dumb. Kobe is really the only one that followed his blueprint and that's just how Kobe was personality wise. Bron got 4, Magic got 5 by being what they call "nice guys". Kareem got 6 being quiet. Duncan got 5 being quiet.
Yea but Jordan never lost
@@sdfishinn That's because Jordan was placed in a superteam by the Bulls management who got Pippen Grant Rodman and other stars for him. LeBron was constantly let down by the cavs management when he came into the league
@@sdfishinn WTF MJ LITERALLY REQUESTED RODMAN NEPHEW
@@sdfishinn CASUAL
@@johnathancarter3726 No he didn't request Rodman. Get your facts straight. lol
I've never seen something quite like Skip fumbling to make a point by contradicting himself, and then proceeding to believe he's won the argument
Just because Shannon is yelling and stuttering doesn’t mean he won!
Shannon makes a good point EVERYTIME MJ is brought up
@@notcoolkev3770 skip did not win, you do not play outside sports against people you just don't like.
You've never met a man before?
Facts, Skip lost this. It’s blatantly obvious that today’s players are vastly more athletic and greatly more skilled.
They both took it out of context, Al was saying, Jordan played against players that wanted to beat him, all while, Lebron is in an era where everyone wants to join him
Which is also a lie... The Celtic big 3, the golden states with durent.
Jordan had a tougher Era... Big Man on every team.. . 7 foot men on every team... They had hand check... No flagrant fouls... The paint was crowded ... No 3 pointers.... The players are not more styled .... They just shoot more 3.... They hand hand Check back then
Honestly I’m playing harder against my best of friends or brothers than anyone. Competition is always higher when you know someone well because losing doesn’t end when the game does. You’re going to hear about it after the game from them, all week, all month, for however long until you play again and beat them lol. At least that’s how it went in my experience. So the games were always more physical and chippy the better I knew you.
Yea you can go harder because it’s actually more personal because since y’all have an actual relationship, that’s unlimited bragging rights. It means more to beat someone in cool with than to act like I don’t like someone then beat them
Not this era and you know it
The only reason LBJ wants to be your friend is so you don't try to end his career with non-basketball plays because he's embarrassing you. That's it.
You are out of your mind…your friends don’t try to maim you…
I play even harder against people I don't know, that think they're better than me.
The funny thing is it’s not hard to look up footage of jordan’s era. I dare anyone to go watch some games and you’d be surprised how barely different it looks from today’s games. Old heads have taken a couple instances of fights breaking out or teams roughhousing a player and have largely overblown it to make it seem like you had to get punched in the face to score a point.
Bingo! The 90’s were awesome but they’ve been extremely exaggerated
That's what you SEE in non HD. But they're pushing on shooters all the time.
Dirty players like Bruce Bowen, Bill Laimbeer could not exist in today's NBA, if for no other reason than their signature moves are flagrant fouls.
they pretended like dudes get chainsaw to pieces when going up to the rim. Lmaoooo
@@TheHauntedKiwi Funny that you say that because skill wise those guys are perfect for the league
Bruce Bowen would be a top 3 & D guy
Bill was an early stretch big
Jesus mate. You couldn't be more wrong. No idea what you're talking about.
He just bitter bron kept him from going anywhere in the playoffs
i forgot who that bum even was
@@superseahawk4296 Bum? When did up play in the NBA?
@@superseahawk4296 did you make it to the playoffs?
@@superseahawk4296 Harrington was no scrub
jordan didn't lose in the finals lebron has jordan as 6 ring's in 13 seasons with retiring in between lebron as 4 rings in 19 seasons lebron is obviously not the GOAT but he will go down as the scoring champion of all time because he's longevity and commitment to basketball
bill russell 11 rings in 13 years
Shannon absolutely TORE HIM UP in this segment. Baseless had NO answers that landed.
100
I don't think it was about them hating jordan, but the competitive nature of the players were different. There's plenty of footage showing that Jordan was cool with other players and that he's had conversation with them, with friendly banter, but they also were more competitive back then. Granted the players today are more athletic but even the rules of the past have changed.
it's possible to judge competitiveness so that argument is invalid
@@balistic919 Agreed
Say something with substance cause that made no sense
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It's also been documented that many players didn't bring their a game around Jordan and conceded. Can't really say that's more competitive
Skip is such a master of filling time with his collection of stories and quotes that are often repeated almost word for word and often times are completely off topic. Like you could ask him what he had for lunch and he would eventually get around to telling you about how LeBron collapsed against the Mavs.
😂😂😂😂😂😂
It's called obfuscating, listen to any politician try to answer a real question, this is the first tactic they go to.
And they said he had to be SEDATED!
Jordan is the GOAT. Read all the books-good and bad. Michael Jordan is DIFFERENT
See this is the thing about the 90s, we’re supposed to be made to believe that it was some Warzone when a lot of the players are on record saying that they hung out with each other Lol
If LeBron truly isn’t beefing with any player him making a beef just for the sake of it is pretty lame in my opinion and it doesn’t really have anything to basketball Lol
Honestly watch ANY playoff game Chicago vs NYC, Indiana, or Utah from any year in the 90s and you'll see how hard they fought and it genuinely felt like they despised each other deeply. I am far too young to have experienced that live but now I love watching those games on YT because the intensity is insane. It's not even about them being friends off the court, they clearly had enough respect on the court to fight hard every single play.
@@GentM2015 That’s the thing, the playoffs will always have that type of energy. Watching Lebron’s rivalry with the Celtics, Pacers, Pistons, Spurs, etc. Those were incredible playoff matches.
Show the banana boat pic of Jordan, magic and bird. Or Jordan hakeem and Barkley hanging out on vacation.
@@notcoolkev3770 How am I supposed to show you a pic in a TH-cam comment section bro? But since you wanna bring up those specific guys both Charles Barkley and Larry Bird it made it to going to a Mike Tyson fight together with Michael Jordan and Magic Johnson
@@notcoolkev3770 Dream Team documentary just goes to show how cool all of them were with each other lmfaooo
“a lot of people get the sauce, and won’t tell you some of the ingredients.” - LeShannon Sharpe
I felt that
Well if you keep giving out the secret to the secret sauce is it special anymore 🤔🤔
@@DatFeature 🤯🤯🤯
@@DatFeature No. But if you share the secret. everyone could be special and add another ingredient to make it better than the others. Sharing your knowledge is what makes you better cos they will share their sauce with you too. Have a nice day 👌
@@roycesantos9166 but doesn't that defeat the purpose of special if everyone has it 🤔🤔
@@DatFeature i mean everyone is special man
Shannon bouta take this as a personal attack 😂
He always do when it comes to his boo thang lol
Anytime you spit facts about the most protected player in NBA history LeStans get ill 🤒
😂😂😂😂
@@jlowrey68 y’all just as bad as skip
@@Thatguystill Are you sure? What I'm watching it's not the same. Shannon is arguing like Skip said something about his wife. Shannon is about to lose his voice. Lol!!!!
I’ll listen to a Guy that played Basketball not someone who played Football, Shannon knows dang well Football in the 80s and 90s was harder more painful than this era, I don’t like when old heads cap for this generation
As a Jordan fan, I don’t like this argument because Jordan and Lebron literally had no say so in the rules and how their era’s were shaped. The league Jordan played in was already like that as far as physical play and fights and whatever. I credit the Malice at the Palace and a few other things on the NBA cracking down on stopping that physical play and making the league “softer” if thats how you see it.
You know nothing
@@patssoxcelticsbruinsfan9116 he’s right.
@@tntcrewEJ physicality makes the sport harder
Who made flopping for fouls popular? That shaped this soft era.
They had no say so but LeBron definitely benefited from a much softer NBA. Of course I can't prove this but there's no way LeBron plays 18 straight years had he entered the league in the 80s. His bully ball style wouldn't have worked period
i am too young to have whitnessed jordan's era but when watche the last dance and found out that mj went to play golf with danny ainge in between playoff games when they were facing each other in the playoffs, i couldnt believe it. and skip tried to justify it as jordan was trying to destroy him on and off the court. naaah. if lebron went to play golf with steph or kd during playoff matchups people would lose their mind. also plenty of clips showing how magic and jordan were good buddies and even bird and jordan had friendly trash talk. it was basically isiah and the pistons that hated him
He does I guess you don’t see the friendly stuff going on now
Exactly!!! I'm 40 years old. I watched MJ faithfully as a kid and a teenager, and I'm telling you, Skip says a lot of things that just aren't true when it comes to MJ and 90's-era NBA.
You're disqualified if you weren't young enough to witness the Jordan era, the last dance only gives you a small sample, Jordan & Magic wean't good buddies they had respect for one another they became friendlier when on the same same dream team because that was the Olympics and the dream team experience, once again if you're too young just say you're too young, but don't go by the last dance to form your opinion
Anything to discredit LeBron smh
it's like saying wilt is the goat because he played in a league with rules targeted towards him😂😂
Pretty easy to discredit 4-7
i swear man bron the goat, just cause u can play football on the court mean that it’s a tougher era, bron played and dominated in the most skilled era
@@Christappedin how did he dominate with all these loses and jumping team to team?
@@amenx he has 4 rings my guy multiple mvps and he’s gonna end his career 40k 10k 10k, average a triple double in everything for his career ion wanna hear nun about him or dominating, he made kd go to 73 win team , all his losses came from getting jumped except for mavs only loss u can count and that’s facts
MJ was playing golf with Bird, Ainge, Barkley and others. I need y’all to stop making up myths to put Jordan on this damn pedestal.
What he did on the court speaks for itself more than anything. All that other stuff is irrelevant
MJ when shooting Space Jam brought in all the All Stars to film and to practice with during the Summer. I would say MJ was better friends with people in the league than LBJ is with people now.
THANK YOU
Your point makes no sense
You bron stans are delusional
When Dennis Rodman joined the bulls the 1st thing that MJ sting that MJ and Pippin bolt told him was you'd better not F up the chemistry of this team. And Dennis came from the bad boy pistons so put that in perspective
@@LandStrider23 no literally every Jordan worshiper/Bron hater are dumb, y’all come up with the dumbest logics to defend your MJ & I don’t even dislike MJ but y’all make people want to hate him because y’all have double standards at a all time high for any other player. Y’all wanna say LeBron got help by his superstar teammates, call every team he goes on a superteam, cry that he needs help or he got carried whenever he wins. But Jordan somehow won every championship by himself playing with scrubs, no all-stars, no legendary coach, just MJ. MJ not even the only person to go 6-0 on that team & there are more players with rings than Jordan that haven’t lost an NBA Finals
not skip acting like he was there everytime mj was golfing😂😂😂😂
Skip "I was there" Bayless 😂
@@Soldier979 😂
Skip swear he was MJ best friend
@@scottiep3539 realrap😂
Skip “I covered the team” Bayless
You mean the same MJ who was hanging out with Barkley while playing against the Suns in the finals? That MJ!? Lmao the revisionist history is strong with this one. 😂
To be fair, Jordan didn’t do that with many people and with Barkley much of that had to do with gambling/golf. It was a competitive relationship. A little revisionist history on your part clearly as well.
@@closjr86 so he hung out with him is what you’re saying? Lol
@@DCaldwell_ they’d never join up to win they wanted to beat each other shhh you see how salty Scottie is today lmaooo
@@closjr86 soooo he hung out with him? 😂
@@Wideout4 there was no need. The organization gave MJ whatever he needed lol
One thing I do know, Al knows basketball better than a football player!
Lebron usually mentions young players to give them their due… Lebron usually gives up to people nothing wrong with that. Lebron has beef with Paul pierce…… Paul pierce does not like lebron. Lebron doesn’t care for pierce..
No Paul Pierce has beef with LeBron. Dude is literally beefing by himself and he can't even hold a candle to Bron.
The game itself is softer for SURE. MJ’s eta was tougher for sure. The Pistons were given a license to hurt MJ. Regardless I’m impressed with LBJ’s longevity and his ability to still perform at a SUPERSTAR level at his age. Literally the best NBA players start to retire when their PPG drop to around 10 or lower. LBJ isn’t even close to that yet. Also with his skill set he can play as a PG at least until the age of 40. I never would’ve thought he could do this especially when he couldn’t shoot very well early in his career.
One thing is when I think of Jordan era I think of the 90s. And those piston teams didn't have the license to hurt anyone in 90s
Jordan made the rule changes in the 90’s then he started winning so this “soft era” is thanks to one of the GOATS, MJ himself.
@@MyJBlack The league was more tuff back than with much less competition, players in todays game we sweep most players back then and Lebron James is dominating in an era with 2-3 all start on each team. Only a couple teams were like back then. Lebron is the goat and should’ve been established that years ago .
Omg his era was really tough gtf out of here physical isn't skill you know why scoring looks easy now in the nba because you can't just shove your arm in someone's hips for 90 ft lets see i wonder if jordan could keep lebron in front of him without hand checking prime for prime could jordan even beat these modern players now james harden kd kyrie bron Damian Lillard list goes on give me one team jordan beat in the finals that was better than the 17-18 warriors ill wait 🤫
Tbh if you acc look at highlight i will be honest man often mj could legit walk to the basket like it wasnt thsr tough lmao what competition did mj had? Milk man miggy
Dude, Jordan went through it man. Competition is tough today as well. But rules were different, and you could get away with allot more, technology was different. It was much easier to miss calls. It was even easier to ignore calls all together. Jordan went through it. The only way to contain him, was to lay him out. I saw him, he went through it.
Did he go through it though?
What is you on
@@RICHARDHENNESSY and as soon as Kobe and Tim Duncan came in league they lead their teams to rings….there isn’t a 21 year old about to lead a team to a ring today. KD, Steph, not allowing it…Kobe and Tim didn’t allow Lebron to win when he was 21; which goes to show that Jordan’s peers weren’t competition!!!!
6 expansion teams in the league. And every team had one superstar except for the bulls who had 3 hof and the best coach of all time.
@@RICHARDHENNESSY so one man can beat an entire league?
This is the main reason why Most jordan fans are delusional, They only critique Lebron for not taking Jordans route but not any other player in history.
Skip didnt know About M.J and KOBE relationship but you want me to believe he knew what Michael was doing in the 90's lol
😂 he and SAS have good relations with players, and yet all the players hates them.
Exactly!!!! LMBO
Exactly! He is a class A Fool.
Objectively speaking the 80's and 90's was different to now players like reggie Miller and Karl Malone have said their era wasn't as friendly as today's game
True but Reggie Marc Jackson, ain’t better than Jordan pippen Rodman Ron Harper kuc, and Kerr lol
Exactly brother thats the whole point, player were rougher with jordan but u cant put a finger on lebron
And they got to beat up on six expansion teams during that time, padding win/loss totals.
@@anthonypatterson8796 at least they were trying to win. The 96 Raptors upset the 96 Bulls
Lebron played against tanking teams intentionally losing games for draft picks.
@@Kyle-ho4lj dumbest shi i’ve read today
Straight up, why does it even matter?
It's not like LeBron picked the rules or who he played against so why knock him for it?
It's like ragging on MJ for never beating Golden State, how could he? He was retired when they took off.
MJ > LBJ
Let me just throw this out there. If LeBron is so dominant in comparison to everyone else around him, he's "dominating little bros". But if there was nobody else that measured up to Jordan in his era at all, wouldn't that mean he was dominating "little bros" too? And also, Mike was golfing with fellow players back then. I ain't never in my life heard of someone being on the golf course with someone they hated or even didn't like.
Facts!!!
nawl Mike was just good at his game
In skip eyes they wasn't even cool he's a educated liar
@@SpursOn3 okay, and Bron is too. They are both great at what they do
I wish they didn’t cut off the last part Shannon said. MJ never faced a KD, Curry, Giannis, Harden, KG, Dirk, Kawahi in the 90s. The 90s were more physical due to the rules, but now players are way more skilled and greater than the players in the 90s
And way more trash🤣 either you can shoot 3s and no mid range or you can shoot mid range but cant shoot 3s nor play defense
So, in conclusion, Reggie Miller, Hakeem, Shaq, Karl Malone, John Stockton, Charles Barkley, Patrick Ewing, Bird, Magic, Payton were just bums ?
He faced a top 5 pg of all time top 3 sf arguably the best point guard and best center of all time... yes his competition was terrible. Bird magic Kareem shaq penny Isaiah
Hey Google what year was shaq drafted
So? 90’s players were more skilled than the 60’s and 70’s players… the question is who dominated more during his era, MJ dominated more his era in a more physical style of play, thats all the point.
I love how passionate these guys are, despite where you stand, this is great to listen too.
MJ: 6-0
LBJ: 4-6
If you ask me, MJ DOES have the blueprint to winning.
@@demontiakpinkney5881 he was getting called Jesus by Larry Bird in the 80s, tf are you smoking lmao
Robert Horry 7-0
11 and 1 in the finals
Bill Russell has 11 so the goat is bill Russell by your logic. These debates didn't age well LeBron won
LeBron literally was dominating when al Harrington was in his prime let that sink in
So he would know better than anyone else right?
@@worldlfree noup. Cause Lebron kept bum from winning anything. The saltiness is real
@@worldlfree yeah that would Al was soft as well ?
Who’s Al
Every athlete in every sport is playing a softer sport than players 20 years ago
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Lebron has been playing for a bit tho
@@a.t.francis2716 yes and benefited from it, which is not his doing, but has still benefited. He went from battling men to battling his lil nephews, again, not his fault he has great longevity.
It’s because 20 years ago the athletes were softer 😂 if they let Giannis go after KD, it would be a bloodbath! Back in those days, chainsmokers were in the nba
LeBron has always been a threat to MJs legacy ever since he entered the league ‼️💯
Not at all. Shoe sales show the legacy comparison ain’t even close. Lebron Stan’s tell this to themselves to help them sleep.
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@@darkelzsmith3564 cry old head
@@stephv6381 because Jordan's have been around longer?
@@huntersartin CURRY AND KD OWNS LEBRON!
There are no Stephs in the 90s.
Steph avg 42% 8 attempts pg
1. Mullin - 44% only 3 attmpts pg
2. Allen - 40%
3. Bird - 39%
4. Reggie - 39.5 5 attmpts pg
5. Hornacek - 40% 2 attmpts pg
Old Mark Jackson beat Steph in a 3 point shoot out
Old Mullin beat Durant in a 3 point shoot out
Its as if they forgot that Lebron has been playing since 2003, he was drafted after shortly after Jordan retired. Lebron was playing against men as a kid and now hes playing against the next generation as a grown man. The players now are far more skilled but they're fearless too. If they weren't competitive why would they complain about calls, play injured, fight the other teams players etc?
Becuz Jordan fanbois love giving head so their worthless shoes can still be cool
They don't play defense and wining and losing is not as important. They don't play when healthy, you're trying to convince me they play hurt? That's the point not whether one era was more talented, how competitive are these guys. Most of these guys aren't alpha males. The 90s stars were alphas of the Alphas
@@josh_7569 lmao 🤣
@@kevoncox they don't play hurt didn't IT go play playoff games injured and just after his sister died wtf you mean they don't play hurt 😂
@@zacharygodfrey874 Playoffs. Things ramp up in the playoffs. During the season, guys don't really care.
Everyone wanted be like Mike, wanted his shoes, his style, his swag... Jordan was far from hated this is crazy talk.
That's why they hated him, jealousy. It all comes from the same entity.
No the crazy talk is thinking that the whole world loved one man, And to think no one in the league didn't like him??? that is insane to think like that!!!
Didn’t Jalen rose embarrassed Skip by calling him “Water pistol Pete Jr”? What happened after didn’t skip and Jalen squashed it out? What does that make Skip?
His excuses would be... "I'm not Jordan."
@@brandondetroitfanmichaels4325 Nah he always act like he got that “Jordan mentality” 😂
@@Messigoat1033 He literally just said... "I'M NOT Jordan
@@brandondetroitfanmichaels4325 I literally didn’t say he said he is Jordan
Shannon dead wrong on this one. It was a tougher and more physical era. Jordan was the ultimate competitor. They also had to deal with hand checking in that era not now.
This era is more skilled so therefore it’s the toughest era to play in when random role players are having 30 plus every damn week u put them in MJs era they’re all stars without a doubt
@iwatchytvids5738 - more skilled? Offensively MAYBE. Defensively... well this Era has to play DEFENSE in order to be considered "better". Sit down kid!
@@felipepineda1585 this era is definitely better and MORE SKILLED AINT NO MAYBE gimme reasons on how it’s not?
@iwatchytvids5738 - a hand check nowadays is a foul. It wasn't then. Back then you had at least 16 teams that played almost full court defense. There is virtually no defense now. Back then, they would at times fistfight, now they yell insults. Back then, you played hurt. Nowadays you get rested because your veteran even though you are healthy. Back then, there were people battling in the paint. Nowadays their afraid to break a nail. Back then, this guy could dunk from the free throw line... I will wait. Back then, we have a jason williams. Nowadays, no one can pass like that. More creative, more fun, more intense, more HEART! Nowadays, yeah shoot the ball I won't guard you, that's complete garbage. Lastly the 96 bulls in 5 against the whatever the best warriors team you want. With KD, what was that 2017?
MJ had friends but he turned off the friend switch when it was game time. Especially in the playoffs.
Magic did it too Isaiah Thomas aswell
oh yeah lebron never did that, right? draymond and lebron never had issues in the finals?
SO DOES LEBRON
@@earnisill I know this but the narrative is Jordan didnt have friends and I'm saying he did but turned it off once the game started. I'm aware other players had this same mentality.
Yes this era is soft as cotton candy!
Jordans 96 Bulls had a couple of players in their rotation who might not even make an NBA roster in today's game. Yes the 90s were more physical and more top heavy in terms of stars but the average rotation player today is far superior than the average player then
Can You name who are those players ? You can have a team with 12 all - Star players ,You need súper Stars players but Also role players .the Celtics ,Lakers ,pistons ,Bulls ,rockets ,Spurs ,heats ,cuz the basketball is a team Game .
The nba is soft trash get over it
The league is very much so softer than back in the day. Bs flopping, the jumping into defender for fouls ( glad they changed that rule ) and all they do is shoot 3's. That's not much skill unless your Curry. Now don't get me wrong there's a damn good amount of great players in the league but it is waaay softer. Jordan didn't go out and recruit payers to come and play with him. He played with whomever was on his team and never quit. Lebrons great but he damn sure wouldn't be able to run over players back then like he does in todays game. I watch them part the seas for him. Wouldn't happen in the 80's/90's.
The league is full of three and D players with no fundamentals. Players today can't hit an open mid range shot and centers have no post moves.
@@carrollantwon I definitely agree with that bro
Shannon is spot on.Why negate one's ability to hype up someone else's ability?
To be fair Shannon does the same thing about other players, like Tom. They both have biases
He does it all the time
@@jefflayne6817 not like he wants to haha he gotta go against tom cause skip will defend him 100% of the time.
That's literally all LeBron stans have ever one.
@@ShutThePuck wtf you talking about? LBJ been getting hated on since he was 18 yrs old? All you haters do is discredit him whether he’s right or wrong. Mans can’t even take a Shxt without y’all complaining
This crazy because no matter if you my blood brother it's in when we hit the court!!
I mean MJ did dominate a center led league in the 90s
he...is a guard wtf does centers have to do with anything....if thats what we saying LeBron dominated a guard led league in the 2010's and 2020's
Oh please like he guarded the centers or the centers guarded him the whole game, try again
The point was there wasn't a free path to the basket if you beat your man. That's what he meant by a center led league. In today's game if you beat your defender you get a free basket a majority of the time. In the 80's and 90's you couldn't do that because a center and/or power forward was there to contest you.
@@johncena4096 I think he meant the centres back in the day dominated the paint so he dominated them driving to the hoop, todays centres are expected to be able to shoot from distance when in the 90s that was the pinnacle of guarding the paint and the era of the greatest centres like Ewing, Hakeem, Dikembe, DRob etc.
@@PinchingPennies1by1 Ok i get that but you could use the same logic with jordan. He didnt have to defend in an era with great perimiter scorers like lebron did for example kobe, ai, tmac, kd, harden, westbrook, giannis, steph, etc.
Jordan was and is friends with Barkley, Ewing, Magic, Bird, Kobe and many more, but the thing was when it was game time, all that friendship stuff went out the window because he wanted to beat them and their team. On the other hand Drip Bayless is embellishing a lot of stuff to push his Jordan worship and also enhances Shannon no objective Lebron praise.
You don’t think today’s players want to beat one another?
@@mobetta2092 nope
@@mobetta2092 They definitely do. The NBA was tired of losing billions of dollars behind players out there brawling as what they termed as "thugs". To curve that behavior they started hitting players where it hurts- in their pockets.
@@izowiz You're an idiot go back and watch the 2016 finals and see the way Bron and Curry were going at each other. Guys still compete just as much if not more than guys back then.
@@izowiz Yes
Skip Is reaching new heights with his dumb takes 😂
Where are the players more skilled at besides shooting the ball??
Shannon is right about everything he's saying skip doesn't want to admit that he's wrong about his logic.
Clearly. 💯
You're just a soft lil boy go to the army
Skip is so concerned with staying in character, that his points stop sounding logical, and I know he privately thinks this is an example of his gift of gab, and ability to debate any take, but really it just makes him look and sound like a liar.
LeeTravius McKay see this is what lebron fanboys do they deflect lebron had a meltdown in the 2011 NBA finals and got outplayed by Jason Terry. That automatically eliminated Levron from Goat Contention they actually played defense in Jordans era
It’s pretty hilarious, just watching him get buried by Shannon at every turn
@@darnellwilliams8783 then if anything you’re making his point. That this era is harder than MJ’s. Skip sounding stupid & lebron losing are correct, two things can be right at the same time
You already commented 8 times in this video.... You need a life
@@darnellwilliams8783 No one denies LeBron's chokejob in the 2011 Finals, y'all Jordan fanboys suck off MJ way too much, overlooking his failures, refusing to acknowledge them
The game has changed quite a bit since the 80’s and 90’s. Can’t really compare it because the game is not the same. That said nobody has come even REMOTELY close to dominating all the other players in the league the way Air Jordan did.
League was not as talented as today tho and that's just facts
You could argue Shaq was remotely close by winning three straight FMVPs, but you still have a fair point
PLUS, Lebron plays out of his position at PG. He's up against smaller talent night in and night out.
“Ddd different eras” Shannon had Skip shook lol
Tf How? Lol
Kobe actually played in the toughest era the best mix of skill and athleticism.
The 2 thousands? Lebron was thier as well
@@str8duval people act Like Bron wasn't playing when Kobe and Shaq was still together lol
@@Rob8041289 Smfh facts Kobe played most of his time with Lebron 🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️
Skip needs to get over 4 and 6 in the finals. Getting to the finals is already a feat in itself. Being 4 and 6 is the not worst than 6 and 0. LeBron James has been in the finals 53% of the time in his career compared to Michael Jordan at 40%.
Not arguing who is better, there is just alot more regarding the numbers than 4 and 6, compared to 6 and 0.
Lebron fans can’t accept the fact that he’s the 2nd greatest player of all time. How is 4 rings better than 6rings????
I’m sorry, does the league give out a 2nd place trophy to the finals runner up?
Didn’t think so 🤡 L, only kids with a loser mentality would want to go 4-6 instead of 6-0 🤡
Idc about losses but I think lebron needs 5 to be in convo , 6 to be superior
@@tmot6714 it’s better when the competition faces is tougher, it’s better when you do it with a team that’s a lottery team without you. The bulls literally went to the finals without jordan
@@tmot6714 You can’t accept Michael is the third, how is 6 better than 7 and 11?
Why is it that if you are not talking good about Lebron, you are automatically demeaning him.
13:17 gave me a good laugh the way Skip said “YES YOU FINALLY GOT IT”
😂😂😂
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣I fell out 🤣🤣
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 im screaming
I love the show but the moments like this where Skip really has the biggest double standards and his journalistic career/past really shows through when he won’t waiver at all from his first thoughts. He has to be right and will try to explain how someone else “made him wrong” rather than just being wrong. I love the show but Shannon makes the best points but Skip just waves them off as if they’re nothing instead of actually rebuttalling the statement or he just brings up another topic. Gets of tiresome sometimes but it’s kind of my fault because I knew from the title it was gonna be one of those videos
You clearly don’t have a clue what you are taking about.
@@chrismoren1341 Sure, I don’t. Yet, you have nothing to say yourself just that you’re trying to undermine what I said by saying what you said. Good luck with that, you made no point and only wasted your time and mine. Clearly, I do know what I’m talking about and my statement is proven easily throughout the video. You’re the only one who leaves a negative comment while others like the comment. Mine isn’t even the most liked comment that stating the same thing as me. Read the room, bud, obviously you didn’t like what I said and only could come up with one conclusion that satisfied you enough to move throughout your day. Read other comments, so does everyone not have a clue? Or are you just that lost?
Skip is just there to be entertaining to get more viewers. in my opinion he is not journalist. Or even closer to that.
Bottom line skip is really bad at his job. Honestly.
@@SamoaRobb it's easy to get frustrated with Skip he's a terrible debater. Shannon has just as many double standards (and has personal animosity towards Jordan that he tries to hide) in these debates but is much more affable than Skip and gets away with his terrible arguments.
Anyone who says Michael Jordan didn't play in a tougher Era are just on lebrons nuts.
Jordan played in an Era where a close line and elbow was a foul. Lebron plays in an Era where a hand check draws a foul and staring at your opponent gets you a tech.
Well I wish Bron could get some of those hand check foul calls.🙄
Every team in the 90s had at least one player as good as lebron. The rules changed and there are far less great players now so lebron can dominate.
MJ is my goat but the skill in the nba now is unmatched.These are the most skilled players we’ve ever seen and the talent is only getting better
If you compare any average nba player today to Bird or anyone of their 80s, dribbling alone, decimates anyone. The offensive arsenal these cats have now are far better than anything last century.
Hand checking isn’t defence, moving your feet and staying in front of the person you’re defending is. Those slow in athletic players of the 80’s can’t compare to the ones now
these same topics Skip comes up with, I salute Shannon for having to make the same argument in a million different ways while Skip give you the same “6 for 6” “God in sneakers” narrative. atleast Shannon comes with new facts/stories on these same repetitive topics 🤦🏽♂️
What exactly is different about Shannon's argument that he's not said before because they are both quite literally regurgitating the same nonsense...
It’s a very simple question - who would you want in your team if you’re starting one and want to win rings? For me it’s a no brainer .. MJ
lebron
No doubt it’s MJ. The reality is Jordan’s peak was higher, Lebron’s career has been longer, but he’s had the benefits of steroids his entire career to keep him healthy & also the rule changes to keep his body from too much damage & hand checking etc. LBJ’s game also has always had holes: FT shooting, turnovers & not the greatest jump shooter. Jordan’s game was flawless & had zero weakness!
Prime Lebron all the way!
Prime MJ versus Prime Lebron.... MJ destroys Lebron every time. MJ was a killler and a big game finishing closer. Lebron has never been and never will be a closer
People tend to forget that MJ had a little taste of the millennial time where he got obliterated every night on his wizards days.(I don't care if he was 38ish) Basketball players now has different skillset. They didn't had a PG who plays like Kemp back in the days or shoots better than Reggie Miller.