Billy and Tommy were ‘10’ when the hex collapsed and they disappeared (literally they were only like 4 days old). At the same time William was 13. In ‘present day’ William/Billy is 16, with no memory of either William or Billy.
You're the first one i see understand he was the black heart, everyone forgets about it but Rio was not part of the coven ever, he was the black heart also because Lilia could not say or write his name because of the sigil
You did it again! This was so fun to watch with you. The clues and inside jokes from the fashion are wild. See below: 1) From the first episode, Billy has been wearing a black heart earring; the fashion told us from Day 1 that Billy was the black heart on Lilia's list. 😊 Not to mention the runes on his sweater and that he was basically dressed as Wiccan in the 80s sleepover party right before his big reveal. 2) Also, in this episode, Ralph explains that Agatha called him her husband (which is how she referred to him all throughout WandaVision). During the interrogation scene in this episode, you'll see Agatha's shirt says "Bohner Family Reunion: Pitch a Tent". 😂 The smallest details say so much. Everyone involved in creating "Agatha All Along" knocked it out of the park.
They did indeed! I'm really surprised to have more fun with Agatha than with WandaVision, I didn't think it was possible 😅 Although watching it "with" you all help a lot with the enjoyment 🥰
If you think about it, Wanda going crazy in Dr. Strange Multiverse of Madness was all Lillias fault because of the sigil she put on William/Billy preventing any witches from hearing him. Wanda was searching for her sons.
There's a part of truth but I think you're a bit harsh with Lilia, putting the blame on her. Wanda knew the power of the Darkhold's influence, but she still chose to dive into it. Besides, she could've found Tommy/Speed (even though it would've been way easier to find Billy/Wiccan due to his magical abilities). But in any case you're right, Lilia played a significant role in Wanda's demise 😔
Wanda went on a rampage in Multiverse of Madness, even though his son was like just around the corner hah. (Though the sigil protected him. So technically, Lilia caused Multiverse of Madness)
@@BrianLe-yf6feLilia's sigil hid Billy from all witches. In Multiverse of Madness, Wanda could not find her boys in her universe. @Edolas is pointing out that Wanda would have been able to find Billy had Lilia's sigil not been in the way, because he had reincarnated in a body that was practically around the corner. Had Wanda found Billy, they could have worked together to find Tommy, and Wanda's rampage in Multiverse of Madness may never have happened (at least not for the purpose of finding her boys). Obviously, Lilia did not intend for anything bad to happen; it was merely cause and effect.
Yep, but I agree with Brian on this one. Lilia caused it, but Wanda could've found Tommy if she tried to focus on each one of them instead of putting them in the bag of "her son's"/"the twins". That a good lesson/metaphor for all of us thinking twins as an individual entity instead of a communion of two people with their own personality. (Multiverse of Madness was such a bad film, but with Agatha All Along insight it's more bearable. I'll rewatch it when I'm finished with AAA. 😎)
@@demsael I love you to Reese's pieces, but I definitely don't think anyone from MoM or AAA is trying to make a point about not seeing twins as individuals. 😉 Also, how dare you not automatically agree with me? I thought I was your favorite... 🤔😉 I think there are two strong possibilities as to why Wanda couldn't find Billy and Tommy, and it will largely depend on who gets to tell the story first. I think the MoM writers would likely say the Darkhold manipulated Wanda's greatest vulnerability by torturing her with the calls of her children and keeping her from them in order to corrupt her mind and send her on a path of chaos, madness, and destruction. I think the writers of AAA would provide a much slower build with far more backstory. They might show all the ways Wanda tried locating Billy and Tommy without the Darkhold. They may even explore her depressive state and how mentally unwell she was as a result of not being able to find her children and losing _another_ entire family unit. I suspect they would explain why Lilia's sigil hid Billy and Tommy both from Wanda. With Tommy being a speedster and not a powerful witch like Billy, it's plausible that Billy would be responsible for keeping Tommy's soul from moving on. If Billy is holding onto Tommy, it could follow that the sigil would hide Tommy as well. I think the AAA writers would reveal that Wanda tried everything possible to find Billy and Tommy (which was ultimately unsuccessful due to the sigil) before resorting to the Darkhold out of desperation. Regardless, I can't help but feel like the writers of AAA intentionally tried (and will continue to try) to do damage control to save Wanda's character from the MoM storyline. Personally, I didn't hate MoM... I just think the writers took Wanda from a sympathetic character to an ultimate villain without any warning, and the audience did not like it (which is understandable). The fact that the MoM writers didn't even watch WandaVision before they wrote MoM says a lot.
💯💯💯 (Though I don't do favourites 😏😎) MoM made me think of Daenarys' rampage at the end of Game of Thrones season 8. If you don't have time to tell a story just cleverly use ellipses or flashbacks, don't rush things... It was disappointing
@@demsaelEpisodes 8 and 9 were aired at the same time for a reason; will you be reacting to both of those episodes in one sitting? I'd definitely recommend watching them back-to-back as released. 🩵
I will definitely watch them back to back! But I think I'll still make two separate videos. I'll try to release them closer to one another than what I did so far ;)
Hey.. i cant wait for your react of the episode 7 of agatha all along. Your videos make my Day happy.
Weirdly, episode 7 didn't make me sad, though it is. The video is coming soon (I just posted something about it if you want to check)!
Billy and Tommy were ‘10’ when the hex collapsed and they disappeared (literally they were only like 4 days old). At the same time William was 13. In ‘present day’ William/Billy is 16, with no memory of either William or Billy.
Or 3, depending on your point of view. That's why the Ouiji board was "3 and up" rather than the standard "8 and up."
Right! What a smart detail! I remember thinking 3 was a bit young for playing Ouija, but it makes sense, Billy is only really 3 years old! 🤯
You're the first one i see understand he was the black heart, everyone forgets about it but Rio was not part of the coven ever, he was the black heart also because Lilia could not say or write his name because of the sigil
That was pretty obvious though… I guess people aren't focusing to much on details :)
@@demsael The overreacts overwrites the actual reactions haha
That was the *cutest* noise. Lololol
You did it again! This was so fun to watch with you. The clues and inside jokes from the fashion are wild. See below:
1) From the first episode, Billy has been wearing a black heart earring; the fashion told us from Day 1 that Billy was the black heart on Lilia's list. 😊
Not to mention the runes on his sweater and that he was basically dressed as Wiccan in the 80s sleepover party right before his big reveal.
2) Also, in this episode, Ralph explains that Agatha called him her husband (which is how she referred to him all throughout WandaVision). During the interrogation scene in this episode, you'll see Agatha's shirt says "Bohner Family Reunion: Pitch a Tent". 😂
The smallest details say so much. Everyone involved in creating "Agatha All Along" knocked it out of the park.
They did indeed! I'm really surprised to have more fun with Agatha than with WandaVision, I didn't think it was possible 😅
Although watching it "with" you all help a lot with the enjoyment 🥰
@@demsael For me, it's definitely the best Marvel project to date. And watching it with you has made the experience even better. 🩵
If you think about it, Wanda going crazy in Dr. Strange Multiverse of Madness was all Lillias fault because of the sigil she put on William/Billy preventing any witches from hearing him. Wanda was searching for her sons.
There's a part of truth but I think you're a bit harsh with Lilia, putting the blame on her.
Wanda knew the power of the Darkhold's influence, but she still chose to dive into it. Besides, she could've found Tommy/Speed (even though it would've been way easier to find Billy/Wiccan due to his magical abilities).
But in any case you're right, Lilia played a significant role in Wanda's demise 😔
I’m sooo ready for the next episode it’s going to be a ride
I'm both excited and worried about being that much "lost in the fog"!
I'm recording it tomorrow (the 27th), wish me good luck! 😬☺️
Wanda went on a rampage in Multiverse of Madness, even though his son was like just around the corner hah. (Though the sigil protected him. So technically, Lilia caused Multiverse of Madness)
No, she didn't, Wanda opened the darkhold, Lilia didn't make her. Don't blame Lilia.
@@BrianLe-yf6feLilia's sigil hid Billy from all witches. In Multiverse of Madness, Wanda could not find her boys in her universe. @Edolas is pointing out that Wanda would have been able to find Billy had Lilia's sigil not been in the way, because he had reincarnated in a body that was practically around the corner. Had Wanda found Billy, they could have worked together to find Tommy, and Wanda's rampage in Multiverse of Madness may never have happened (at least not for the purpose of finding her boys). Obviously, Lilia did not intend for anything bad to happen; it was merely cause and effect.
Yep, but I agree with Brian on this one. Lilia caused it, but Wanda could've found Tommy if she tried to focus on each one of them instead of putting them in the bag of "her son's"/"the twins". That a good lesson/metaphor for all of us thinking twins as an individual entity instead of a communion of two people with their own personality.
(Multiverse of Madness was such a bad film, but with Agatha All Along insight it's more bearable. I'll rewatch it when I'm finished with AAA. 😎)
@@demsael I love you to Reese's pieces, but I definitely don't think anyone from MoM or AAA is trying to make a point about not seeing twins as individuals. 😉 Also, how dare you not automatically agree with me? I thought I was your favorite... 🤔😉 I think there are two strong possibilities as to why Wanda couldn't find Billy and Tommy, and it will largely depend on who gets to tell the story first.
I think the MoM writers would likely say the Darkhold manipulated Wanda's greatest vulnerability by torturing her with the calls of her children and keeping her from them in order to corrupt her mind and send her on a path of chaos, madness, and destruction.
I think the writers of AAA would provide a much slower build with far more backstory. They might show all the ways Wanda tried locating Billy and Tommy without the Darkhold. They may even explore her depressive state and how mentally unwell she was as a result of not being able to find her children and losing _another_ entire family unit. I suspect they would explain why Lilia's sigil hid Billy and Tommy both from Wanda. With Tommy being a speedster and not a powerful witch like Billy, it's plausible that Billy would be responsible for keeping Tommy's soul from moving on. If Billy is holding onto Tommy, it could follow that the sigil would hide Tommy as well. I think the AAA writers would reveal that Wanda tried everything possible to find Billy and Tommy (which was ultimately unsuccessful due to the sigil) before resorting to the Darkhold out of desperation.
Regardless, I can't help but feel like the writers of AAA intentionally tried (and will continue to try) to do damage control to save Wanda's character from the MoM storyline. Personally, I didn't hate MoM... I just think the writers took Wanda from a sympathetic character to an ultimate villain without any warning, and the audience did not like it (which is understandable). The fact that the MoM writers didn't even watch WandaVision before they wrote MoM says a lot.
💯💯💯 (Though I don't do favourites 😏😎)
MoM made me think of Daenarys' rampage at the end of Game of Thrones season 8. If you don't have time to tell a story just cleverly use ellipses or flashbacks, don't rush things... It was disappointing
Is a new video coming soon? ☺️
Soon yes, when I can't say! I just made a post explaining why. But rest assured I'm on it! (Spoiler: the episode 7 made me cry)
@demsael Me too. The entire episode is exquisite. And Patti LuPone DELIVERED. 🩵
@@demsaelEpisodes 8 and 9 were aired at the same time for a reason; will you be reacting to both of those episodes in one sitting? I'd definitely recommend watching them back-to-back as released. 🩵
I will definitely watch them back to back! But I think I'll still make two separate videos. I'll try to release them closer to one another than what I did so far ;)
@@demsael That would be great! How was your holiday?
There’s a Marvel cliche about people who are supposedly dead. Think about it.
Without spoiling me on the last 2 episodes, can you elaborate a bit? :D (are you talking about Bucky, Red Skull and Loki?)