Is Jokowi Building His Political Family Dynasty In Indonesia? | Insight | Full Episode
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- With the election of Gibran Rakabuming Raka as Vice-President, President Jokowi appears to have cemented his legacy, and in the process, planting the roots of his political dynasty. But at the same time, the old guard remains influential. Former President, Megawati Sukarnoputri's PDI-P party retains the largest number of seats in Parliament. Will this set up a clash between new and old political clans?
More than 25 years after Reformasi, why does dynastic politics remain popular in Indonesia? Are democratic reforms over? Or are there pros to keeping it in the family?
00:00 Introduction
01:29 Why young Indonesias voted for Prabowo
03:47 Why Prabowo was popular amongst Gen Zs
06:52 Jokowi's son Gibran and allegations of nepotism
11:30 Yogyakarta: Last official sultanate in Indonesia
15:16 Historical legacy of feudalism since Dutch colonial times
16:40 Evolution of feudalism and nepotism
19:54 Speaking with owners of inherited family businesses
23:42 Daughter of former president Abdurrahman Wahid speaks on Gibran
28:00 Why are so many of Indonesia's political parties run by families?
30:43 Old and new political dynasties clash? Megawati vs Jokowi
33:25 What Gibran's supporters say
35:10 Road to Reformasi, Indonesia's democratic reforms
38:46 Different views from another pro-democracy activist
40:38 Democracy vs pragmatism?
42:55 TikTok trend about Suharto's New Order government
45:03 Will family-run political parties harm Indonesia's democracy?
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As a Filipino where political dynasties rule the country, I'd like to ask our dear Indonesian neighbors to LOOK AT THE PHILIPPINES. DO YOU GUYS WANNA END UP LIKE THE PHILIPPINES? 🥲
As long as they don't have a Cory Aquino.
Yeah it's a deja vu 😊😊
Marcos is far worse than Aquino.
Marcos, Aquino, Duterte, Roxas, Macapagal, Estrada ... don't get why most of us vote based on last name not base on merit
Gloria Macapagal Arroyo best Philippines president
I'm Indonesian and I'm embarrassed with political condition in my country
We have been in downward trajectory in the last 5 years, but sadly the worst is not coming yet! Too many stupid uneducated voters, who voted emotionally rather than logically. Worst president ever. We have lost the opportunity to move up, instead we are moving backwards! I so envy to our Singaporean friend… they absolutely have the best person in the leadership position in PM Lawrence! Time to have a competent contracted president. A 5 year contracted very competent president, offered him/her with very attractive package, probably would be able to lead Indonesia to a better future.
@@SuryaSurya-re3vn pendukung pak anis nih
just get out from this country. i know everything not right. but this is my country and i am not embarrase at all
@@sillyguy-rv6xl I voted for the ideas and vision, realistic ideas and achieveable vision from the candidate. I love Indonesia and really be optimistic for its future. But as the matter of the fact, so many negativities in Indonesia politics over the past 10 years. Framing, negative campain, personal attack rather than challenging the ideas.
@@dondychristianto783 I guess what he said, he is embarrassed with Indonesia politics, not the Indonesia as the nation. :)
I'm Indonesian and speechless to see this young voters who choose Prabowo doesn't see any sign of Nepotism ?, that seriously stupid
As an Indonesian, I fully accepted now, the country won’t be able to reach the pinnacle. We are going to be middle class trap country, period.
If current Indonesia family was setup by the empire and align to it, we will not have this "discussion" on this "Cable News America " .😆
😅Singapore and PH same as Indonesia, but they align to the empire , so no "discussion"
ini adalah masa depan yang belum bisa diterima banyak orang
😅But Indonesia is following Singapore footstep . Same in Singapore.
i think you are just pessimistic. i believe we can achieve high income with current leadership.
change your prespective.
As an Indonesian who previously lived in Singapore, I must highlight the stark contrast in political dynasties between Singapore under PM Lee Kuan Yew and President Jokowi. Lee Hsien Loong assumed Singapore's PM position 14 years after his father stepped down, during which he prepared himself through parliamentary roles and ministerial responsibilities, not to mention he took public policy degree from Harvard. Today, Singapore demonstrates a balance of dynasty (power) and meritocracy (talent) in its democracy and policy making.
In contrast, Gibran rose to Vice Presidential candidacy shortly after serving two years as Mayor of Solo while Kaesang became a party leader (PSI) without political background. President Joko Widodo and his close circle have been criticized for using their power to manipulate the constitution which worsens the already corrupted system and mentality. This imbalance prioritizes power over competence. Leadership positions in government are (as always) being filled with people lacking competence.
And yes, the country continues to grow despite decades of corruption in its system and policies, largely due to its resilient population. However, this should not be interpreted as acceptance or tolerance of a corrupt system.
I'd like to add that Gibran, now the vice president of Indonesia, graduated from university with a GPA of 2.3
Bwahaha Singaporean exceptionalism apparently is contagious, always thinking themselves as a special case above other SEA.
I feel like meaningful economic growth would lead to complacency regardless of how corrupt the system is. If the people feel that their future is bright, they won't care as much as people with worsening economic conditions. I completely agree that this political development can destabilize the country, though
yes he did, no doubt about it. period!!
Much worst than the marcos of the philippines
and maybe, his grandson might self-proclaim himself as the emperor
@@GungKrisna12 he certainly will!
Lol, CNA and Singaporean is the LAST kind of people that be yapping about any potential of political dynasty, should i remind you people who control PAP, the largest party in singapore, and who has been it's prime ministers for decades?
@@briantarigan7685 Yess you so right! CNA and their hypocrite. Singapore should be democratic country but they keep silent that along these year Singapore is become dynasty company and money laundry country for the world as long as they get money and their purpose. But immediatly barking when Indonesia had strong leader and threatens the profits they have gained so far!
Singapore so good maintain the democratic show on public and keep hidden the dynasty sistem inside because they small country, Easly decoy everyone in small island. The world not stupid can see what is the true politic system in the Singapore.
It is politicians like Jokowi that Indonesia cannot progress faster and better than it can. Such a shame!
It is an ignorant like you that the country is struggling with. Such a low human resource.
People love jokowi because of his infastrcture projects, it was seen as prospering the people. roads, dams, toll roads, trains, Bridges, port, ships, and the R&D sector. You cant blame people for wanting more of him
it's so easy to blame jokower for everything isn't it?
except... every single thing jokower did is nothing new to this game.
*MK?* already used as power enabler for so many times in the past.
*DPR?* being spinelessly led around by party ketum is tradition at this point.
*POLRI?* lmfao. are you really this blind to even consider jokower broke them or that they were fine before joko?
*Buzzers?* come on now. you KNOW he simply copied from the practices common in our party elites.
Joko is merely the logical conclussion of our already f-ckd political practices, not the cause. the political practices which the elites have happily fostered since the fall of Gus Dur.
@@pangkursinom9880not since the fall of gusdur, since mega didn't get her rights to became the 4th president when her political party literally wins in 1999, only because she's a woman.. that's how f*ckd up this country already is.. so the f*ckd up jokowi is nothing new.. be we can't always be permissive for anything they do wrong morally and ethically.
@@pangkursinom9880not since the fall of gusdur, since mega didn't get her rights to became the 4th president when her political party literally wins in 1999, only because she's a woman.. that's how f-ckd up this country already is.. so the f-ckd up jokowi is nothing new.. be we can't always be permissive for anything they do wrong morally and ethically.
Has CNA done any feature on, or even mentioned, Singapore's Lee dynasty?
Maybe you still new. CNA inside only cover story outside from Singapore.
Why bother, everyone including Singaporeans know of the Lee Dynasty.... pfft
Singapore is a very dangerous country for Southeast Asian female workers because many women are looked down upon and harassed by male workers from Bangladesh
@@SukacukurThey are covering stories inside SG but all are just a shitshow to make all of ASEAN look bad.
Singapore is the Israel of SEA 😂😅
The fall of Indonesia's democracy and the rise of history-ignorant young generation. Politics is indeed the the downstream of the culture.
Desert lizard is getting burned
@@Xx-he9qe wkwkwk bener, kalo media asing benci berarti udah bener kita..
@@noefvon𝘤𝘦𝘳𝘥𝘢𝘴𝘴𝘴𝘴
Democracy doesn't help sorting a country problems, see Brexit for your reference.
@@noefvon ngeri ya kalo liat kodok. Gak bisa berpikir waras lagi. Semua dibutakan oleh bansos 5kg.😂
it's the same case like Bong Bong Marcos, the majority of young voters were not around (or not even born yet) when Prabowo's disgraced career incident happened nor they experience the reformation era in the late 90's. Prabowo capitalizes on this with his new image as a lively and cute grandpa who is willing to listen to the young generation
PH gov want to "participate" , sad for the people.
On June 26, the Philippine Ambassador to the United States (Jose Manuel Romualdez) said that if a war breaks out in the Taiwan Strait, Manila may allow the US military to use its Philippine bases.
He is NOT a grandpapa… and I don’t he will ever be😅
Berbeda dengan pilipina cara memilih pemimpinya
Many Gen Z, especially college student, are against Prabowo. Cuddly grandpa with bloody past, that's his nickname. In fact, he is anti-criticism, clearly not suited to college students who like demonstrations and are vocal about government policies. Moreover, Prabowo did not attend discussions before the presidential election 3 times, did he even dare to discuss with the college students? anti-journalist, anti-college student, in fact he doesn't like being criticized and tends to get emotional.
Escept even in older generation group Prabowo won lol....
Rakyat Indonesia sudah terbiasa dengan korupsi, cenderung bodo amat. Padahal tanpa byk yg sadar, mengubah undang-undang yang cacat etika untuk memungkinkan nepotisme itu bs dianggap sebagai korupsi jg. Karna korupsi bukan cm masalah suap/curi uang aja. Pakai kekuatan/kekuasaan utk mempengaruhi keputusan/penunjukan posisi jg sudah termasuk korupsi.
a typical trait of Indonesian people when it comes to political issues is being easily distracted and thus forgetful of contradicting narrative brought by the same party in the past vs now
I’m Indonesian, and can’t agree more for this documentary. So sad.
Gen z's learn about their candidates from short videos on tiktok😂
LMAO
Short answer: YES.
Actually, nepotism has never been erased even after Soeharto's regime. It still, somehow, exists in provincial or lower-level government. But now we can clearly see this in higher-level or national government.
With all due respect, Bea is such a simpleton when it comes to political knowledge. He knows more about Kpop than Indonesia’s history and leadership. He definitely doesn’t represent many young Indonesians who are more interested and critical about the political state of Indonesia
Yea but prabowo won all demographics anyway. Media tends to portray younger uneducates voters voted for him, ignorant of indonesian past, no memories of new order, etc. Young and old, educated or not, all vote Prabowo.
Yes votes for anies tend to increase in the older and educated groups, but even in that demographic Prabowo won the majority.
Yeah, what a stupid & soy soft bone boy he is. Shameful with his simpleton thinking
Thank you sir for sacrificing your country for the sake of your beloved children and family😍
I was supportive of Jokowi's first term because he actually delivered results. Better infrastructure, better economic policies. His second term took a turn for the worse. He began building up his political dynasty with his children and in-laws. Prabowo is just as much as a hypocrite. Got in bed with radical Islamists, then pretended to be a man of the people by dancing.
I would have voted for Ganjar at least.
Well said!
the party behind ganjar (PDIP) is the one who made jokowi we know today.
As long as the extrimists islamist didn't get the position, Indonesia has a better future
Buruk bagi bagi kardun sedang di masa akhirnya jokowi ekonomi indonesia tetap tumbuh pembangunan di mana mana hutang negara masih stabil rasio nya 39 persen
@@isalzias8355 nita.. nita. kamu itu taunya tiktokan doang. mana paham tentang prinsip2 demokrasi dll.
Prabowo dalam kampanye dia menyatakan bahwa dia akan melanjutkan apa yang presiden sebelumnya lakukan selama 10 tahun terakhir(Jokowi). Kampanye Prabowo terlihat masif dan mendapat banyak dikungan di aplikasi Tik Tok, sedangkan Anies Baswedan(oposisi) mendapat banyak dukungan dari media sosial X, para akademisi, serta dosen dan guru.
Kubu oposisi beranggapan bahwa Jokowi telah gagal memimpin Indonesia selama 10 tahun, hal itu tergambar dari kondisi Indonesia yang mencemaskan, mulai dari korupsi, mentri yang tidak kompeten, ketidakjelasan hukum, dan sebagainya.
Sebenarnya, kepercayaan masyarakat kepada pemerintah sudah menurun drastis, tetapi masyarakat masih mendukung Prabowo yang jelas-jelas mengaku pewaris pemerintah sebelumnya. Hal ini memang ironis, tetapi nyata.
Lmao don't claim "academics" are all in on Anies, anies's camp are those islamic hardliners. The academics are for Ganjar that's why their votes were like that
Dibelakang Anies gerombolan koruptor ugal-ugalan dari Nasdem ga dilihat kah
Anies tidak buruk, yang orang takutkan Islam garis keras di belakangnya...
Prabowo di tahun 2014 jg begitu backup Islam garis kerasnya, di 2019 sudah tidak begitu kuat pendukung Islam garis kerasnya... Sehingga pemilih bertambah dan prabowo menyatakan me lanjutkan pembangunan jokowi..
Saya optimistic pembangunan yang dilakukan jokowi terbalik untuk negri ini.
Sukseskan IKN, buktikan pada dunia
@@bigguy3636 no, im liberal and i choose anis , most of the progressive also choose him.
Progressive that voted for candidate that use nativist and islamist politics rhetoric 🤡
Khomeini loved people like you
I think there is this "ignorance" of view in the younger generation about politics, they tend to ignore these indications of fraud, nepotism, and just pretend it is okay to live this way for decades, which is very concerning.
Singapore is ruled by the same party in all pf its history and you are complaining about political dynasty?😅
Singapore is a very dangerous country for Southeast Asian female workers because many women are looked down upon and harassed by male workers from Bangladesh
LOL its master, USA, has asked CNA to portray bad image about Indonesia.
Wanna compare Indon with SG? Look at your country reserve first, Idiot.
Then we can talk.
Dinasti politik penguasa singapur lebih kotor cara mainnya. Tapi sudah 3 generasi rakyat singapur kena doktrin penguasanya maka jgn heran mereka buta fakta dan takut bersuara mengenai pemerintahan mereka sendiri. Sebaliknya malah vokal ngurusi tetangga. Kelakuan negara giveaway singapur dan malasiya sama saja. Takut indonesia maju dan gak bs jd sapi perah mereka lg.
@@fajar.fajri. ajing Singapore mereka licik mengambil pekerja murah dari Bangladesh padahal sumberdaya ekonomi nyedot Indonesia
wow... political dinasty in indonesia is very bad, right?
i am sure that good country like singapore never has a political dinasty.
that is why former PM Lee kuan yew never has their family to rule singapore.
Lee family is part of the 13families. When CNA gonna cover about that?
They will not dare to do it. They will just shove Singaporeans with money
If you ever read about Lee's family how he govern, and how Lee's son develop his carrier in political is in contrast how jokowi's family did it, at least Lee's family is actually smart and did right with Singaporean's citizen.
@@garygrindelwald8873 JFK has dynasty. So does Bush, so does LKY, so does Rockefeller family, So does Cecils, Sir Thomas Acland family in the UK, Anderson and Archer Family in Australia etc why can't Indonesia has family dinasty in Indonesia?
@@garygrindelwald8873 You only hear from what outsiders hear about Jokowi family but they have never covered up about Amin Rais dinasty. Amin Rais made his three children as parliament members and a son in law as a parliament member and head of his party. He argued no nepotism as those children were elected although they were supported by their father's own party. Jokowi doesn't have any party.
What is the point of having CNA cover the Lee Family dynasty?
It is already a well known fact for past 20 years. I rather have CNA cover something new and interesting. Having them cover Lee family for us Singaporeans is like... Pls tell me something i don't already know
Finally, the world revealed... I'm also sick & tired with this whole political greedy drama... Never consider their own people nation, rather to keep continue their future power 🤬👿
biasanya klo diliput media luar begini si Joko bangga terus dipamer ke medsos. apapun isi beritanya
Indonesia throwing itself back to dark age after all the hardwork 😂😂
its still in dark age since ages
still in dark ages, never been out
There were no election in the dark ages of Indonesia.
Indonesia is learning from its neighbors Singapore 😊
Lol, CNA and Singaporean is the LAST kind of people that be yapping about any potential of political dynasty, should i remind you people who control PSP, the largest party in singapore, and who has been it's prime ministers for decades?
As an Indonesian, I am ashamed of the current leaders
Abbdol
As an Indonesian, I am not. You are not the only Indonesian here, aren't you?
Hi, I'm from Indonesia, I'm grateful to leave Indonesia & migrate to Malaysia
Ok.. Bye.
Mostly chose Prabowo without really take Gibran as a major factor. He's just piggy backing Prabowo's wave. He's too young and unnecessarily pushed by Jokowi's inner circle (with his approval for sure) to join the ballot. Hopefully the country can have better candidates on the next election.
Nah, it was Prabowo who chose Gibran because the leaders of the coalition parties wouldn't agree on a single name coming from inside the parties themselves and it had been deadlock for months. When Gibran name was presented as an alternative, all parties agreed.
Remember, up until March 2023, Jokowi still had a plan to pair Prabowo & Ganjar as his successor by asking both to accompany him on a visit to a harvest festival in Kebumen as a symbol of support to the public/media. But that plan crumbled when Megawati announced Ganjar as presidential candidate from PDIP in April, making it impossible for him to run as the pair of Prabowo. So, Jokowi didn't even think about pushing his son to run for presidential election up until 6 months before the application day.
lee kuan yew feels this is something normal
dinasti Lee harus ditumbangkan paksa.. Dinasti ini adalah simbul mafia dan penjahat seluruh dunia yang mencuci uang hasil kejahatannya di Singapura. Melayu Singapura harus berkuasa lagi di TUMASIK. Kebusukan Cina Singapura harus diakhiri.
It's kind of disappointing to see what jokowi has become recently. People voted for him because he is seen as humble, "clean", and does not come from the political dynasty that was ruling the country. And now he's establishing his own. And now that jokowi is one of strong candidates to become the next leader of golkar (one of the largest political parties here), that means he will still continue to have significant political power even while no longer in office
i really don't think that jokowi will become next leader of golkar. there are a lot of rumors but they are rumors, not fact. and most rumors are wrong (remember the stupid but consistent rumor that jokowi will run for 3rd term?). simply because it doesnt suit his personality. jokowi is not the type to lead a political party, he wasnt even good at being a member, he just want to work, not making speeches.
😁 If all Western media (include this Cable News America) talking about you negatively, it means you must be doing something right for yourself.
I thought the documentary is made well enough. Covering the history, culture, acceptance and the understanding of politics in Indonesia. It covers sultan in yogya, megawati son of sorkarno, pushing her daughter puan to be her successor, SBY to his son ibas n agus. What's happening to Jokowi is nothing new. Simce gibran and prabowo win in the election it can be said that majority of Indonesian still choose prabowo and Gibran under the support of Jokowi is the better option compare to the competition. As simple as that. But looking at the comment section it become more apparent the level of indo neets, and it's education level.
Yeah it's nothing new, but mega and SBY successors didn't made into politics when their parents were still in the office and there were no constitutional law breaking.. that's the big difference, they've been through process for years..
Singapore's PM laughing in the corner 🤣.
Singapore media really didn't have a mirror, what a shame.
The press must objectively reveal all aspects without pressure and embarrassment.
Indonesia have always been ruled by a dynasty of politicians, whether in istana, provincial level or congress, so I see this as nothing new, we always have to choose a dynasty to support. Jokowi's building a dynasty is good news actually, one more dynasty for us to consider from.
you mean more dynasty, more competition among them, they'll make more efforts to win, the winner is better than other dynasty, the one on top is the best we can get, therefore we must expand the competition further to make the standard higher?
i agree. that's basic traditional capitalism 101 right there. more competition=higher standard bar.
not true. jokowi came from a very humble beginning, not a dynasty. one reason why he's stunted at speaking and communication and why his sons look like they have autism is because he didn't get good nutrient from childhood.
@@binsarpanjaitan9777jokowi is the one who make a new dynasty. The same as the previous president, Susilo Bambang Yudhoyono, which also the one who start the SBY dynasty.
From this two dynasties, indonesian already choose Jokowi's dynasty to be the next leader
As for Prabowo, he is the remain of the old Soeharto Dynasty. Soeharto dynasty won't revived by him since his son have no ambition to run for politic. other member of Soeharto dynasty also don't want to run for politic since they already enjoying life as bussinessman, except for Prabowo's ex-wife who still supporting prabowo from far distance. That makes him become member of Jokowi's dynasty by becoming Gibran's mentor in central government level of politic.
@@binsarpanjaitan9777i already screenshoot your comment because it is breaking the ITE law
@@thegrandlord2914 while that's the popular opinion but actually it's not true. jokowi didn't create the dynasty, it's indonesia's buttlicking culture which creates it. people elected jokowi's son and in law to be mayors or political leader, not jokowi giving them jobs on silver plate. that's because there are a lot of buttlickers who want to advance their political career by enabling such system or culture. prabowo persuaded his son to run for VP and jokowi's new brother in law changed election law, not the doing of jokowi himself. and most indonesians couldn't see the difference. similarly, it's not suharto who was evil or racist, but it's suhartoism which was evil or racist. in essence, it's the system that surrounds incumbent leader which enables such nepotism, not the leader himself.
or to give you comparison, it's not joe biden who was evil and is enabler of g-nocide in gaza, but it's the system that runs american politics that does it.
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It's sounds familiar, Indonesia and the Philippines have a Political Dynasty, that's a analogy for me
In Quezon Province, Economic and Social Divide caused by a Political Dynasty making the province very weak with a political family of Enverga, Suarez, Alcala and many others until 2022 when Quezon's Political Dynasty dwindles with new politicians, however even 2022 elections, Quezon Province remained weaker than Laguna and Camarines Sur(two provinces favors Indonesia) 😊😊
For Filipinos, a deja vu of Indonesia and the Philippines in Politics like Marcos and Prabowo/Gibran and Sara
JFK has dinasty. So does Bush, so does LKY, so does Rockefeller family, So does Cecils, Sir Thomas Acland family in the UK, Anderson and Archer Family in Australia etc why can't Indonesia has family dinasty in Indonesia?
@@MSDGroup-ez6zkby changing rules and laws and comparing them to those countries?
You are dumb to the ass indeed.
@@MSDGroup-ez6zk Yeah that's every country in the world have
as far as I know, they have the same political consultant
@@atw5195 Yeah 😊😊
absolutly yes
short answer : yes
long answer : yes he is and the people love him for it
Short answer: Kadrun still doesn't accept defeat
FUNNY HOW media from the country that has son of former PM served as PM for 2 decades.
portrayed about their democratic neighbour country that by law only can serve maximum 5 years 😂😂😂
democratic neighbour my ass. nothing democratic about a nepotistic president who change the law for his son
This is so laughable. CNA should just focus on the authoritarian dynasty at home and save everyone the hypocrisy
Menurut saya anda mungkin kurang memahami
politik Singapura. Sistem Singapura jelas berbeda sistem dengan Indonesia, republik presidensial dan parlementer. Demokrasi Singapura berbeda dengan Indonesia, cara pemilihan presiden (dan PM) di Singapura itu-pun berbeda dengan Indonesia (silakan baca Konstitusi Singapura), masa jabatan, berikut juga dengan perubahan-perubahannya. Contoh, apakah ada perubahan mendadak karena seorang pemimpin yang sedang di kantor ingin mengajukan anaknya? Dan silakan pahami juga kebijakan pers Singapura, bagaimana kebebasan pers-nya dibandingkan Indonesia secara konstitusi tertulis dan realita pelaksanaannya.
@@salomoyllah tp kan yg pilih prabowo dan gibran 59% warga indonesia kalo ngomong jgn asbun ntar semangatin tuh capres rohingnya lo yg ambisi maju jadi capres lg 2029 ntar maju lagi di 2034 jd capres gagal lagi maju pas 2039 kasihan deh lendukungnya anies
@@salomoylorg sg coping kwakwkakw 😂
Total Politik (youtube channel) taught us that the Political Family Dynasty is Asian values promoted by Prime Minister Lee Kuan Yew
and that dumb PatKai (arie) from Totpol forgot how the corruption level is among 2 countries.
OMG this is beyond hilarious, how bout Lee family, CNA come on? 😂😂😂😂😂
it is a well known fact, so no point flogging the dead horse.
Singapore is a very dangerous country for Southeast Asian female workers because many women are looked down upon and harassed by male workers from Bangladesh
@@Aurica34 well CNA is working for its master order, USA. the USA is hate so much to Jokowi that made the world split due to Geopolitics.
@@Aurica34 .. dinasti Lee harus ditumbangkan paksa.. Dinasti ini adalah simbul mafia dan penjahat seluruh dunia yang mencuci uang hasil kejahatannya di Singapura. Melayu Singapura harus berkuasa lagi di TUMASIK. Kebusukan Cina Singapura harus diakhiri.
@@WarzoneOfficial22789 Melayu too lazy then blame Chinese Rot. piss off la
This also seems like a hidden slight against Singapore's LKY. haha, I won't be complaining though.
Singapore is a very dangerous country for Southeast Asian female workers because many women are looked down upon and harassed by male workers from Bangladesh
dinasti Lee harus ditumbangkan paksa.. Dinasti ini adalah simbul mafia dan penjahat seluruh dunia yang mencuci uang hasil kejahatannya di Singapura. Melayu Singapura harus berkuasa lagi di TUMASIK. Kebusukan Cina Singapura harus diakhiri.
@@WarzoneOfficial22789 Singapore Malaysia pro komunis china
it can be challenging when younger leaders rise quickly with significant support from established figures and the political system. this can raise questions about fairness
Yup, as Indonesians, we experienced nepotism back in the New Order. It was horrible, killed many people through corruption, and eventually became authoritarian. Few Indonesians never learned from this, and maybe social media is influencing people to revise what we experienced back then.
Dynasty is very common all over the world what matters in politics not name but competence.
😅If current Indonesia family was setup by the empire and align to it, we will not have this "discussion" on this "Cable News America " .
😅Singapore and PH same as Indonesia, but they align to the empire , so no "discussion"
Stfu china, we indonesian hate china
Indonesian young people pick prabowo not because we are history ignorant..
We choose prabowo because we are pragmatic, we simply see and feel what Jokowi did and Prabowo quality as minister... we want Jokowi program to continue and we feel Indonesia is in the right track ,so we choose candidate who can continue Jokowi program.
I will not worry about "dynasty", every country have their political "dynasty" including US with bush and kennedys... as long as this people are elected and effective, why not ?
Sadly it is. I may be young, but I learn a lot in school and the internet. Most Indonesians can't understand English too, like, isn't it supposed to be a mandatory language the same as Chinese, Japanese, and Tribe Languages? 🤦♂️
Lol, CNA and Singaporean is the LAST kind of people that be yapping about any potential of political dynasty, should i remind you people who control PSP, the largest party in singapore, and who has been it's prime ministers for decades?
it's already more than just number and who's elected. Please aware that this removes a building block of whole system. It's just ethically wrong and we all know it for sure. As you said, nothing constitutionally wrong with "dynasty", but blemishing the constitution to maintain power can't ever be justified.
@@briantarigan7685 No way you just compared a nation of technocrats with a country of which 7% of the people went to college. No doubt on me singaporeans know what they're doing as their votes are not worth sacks of rice
LOL. Bush senior and bush jr didn't continuously running. Bush jr elected after several years or a few period later. The problem is when the current president have son and it elected as vice president. See the wider perspection, the father will help the son.
What a punchline. ❤
he provided a place for his childrens and families in government ranks. very disgusting. People are easily deceived by the bansos effect
"le bansos"
pfft. prove it. ask people near you why they chose prab? and do they tolerate gibr? you'll see their answer will be radically different from your headcanon.
Q: Is Jokowi Building His Political Family Dynasty In Indonesia?
A: YES!
Q: How does it do it?
A: Watch Dirty Vote full movie
Dirty vote is a black campain. Released in calm time before election.
With simple brain, it is not hard to understand what a black campaign is aiming for and what their content is
Good job 👍
Businesses are private things, while nations and governments are a public things. 20:00
100% true, and most of our citizens are too stupid to understand the risk 🤦🏻
Indeed❤
Why not? even Autocrat country such as Singapore allowed LKY to prepare the room for LHL, it is Asian value...
Agree. It's like the Pramoj Brothers and the Shinawatras of Thailand, Jawaharlal Nehru to Indira and Rajiv, Park Chung Hee and his daughter, the Kims, the Sato-Abe connection since Nobusuke's real name is Sato until adopted by his uncle and renamed as Kishi, Hatoyama, Koizumi, Fukuda, the founder of the junta is Suu Kyi's father, Chiang Ching-Kuo.
The Philippines? It's a long list but we have the basics: Diosdado Macapagal and Gloria Arroyo, Cory Aquino and Noynoy Aquino, Fidel Ramos is the cousin of Ferdinand Marcos. (because of Angela Marcos Valdez, first cousin of Mariano, father of Ferdinand) And of course, BBM is Eddie's nephew (Fidel's nickname is Eddie) and he's Ferdinand Marcos Jr. Look at the ₱500 banknote. Cory and Ninoy with signature of Marcos. OUCH!
dinasti Lee harus ditumbangkan paksa.. Dinasti ini adalah simbul mafia dan penjahat seluruh dunia yang mencuci uang hasil kejahatannya di Singapura. Melayu Singapura harus berkuasa lagi di TUMASIK. Kebusukan Cina Singapura harus diakhiri.
@@reinpinebook825 Well said indeed!
@@WarzoneOfficial22789 Leaders and countries come and go, it was a Cham empires, then Bintan Kingdom, then Srivijaya, then Majapahit, then Bintan Lingga Sultanate, then Johor, then Britt then Malaysia then Singapore, What's next?
A: Is Jokowi Building His Political Family Dynasty In Indonesia?
B : Yes
Sok Inggris lu drun
@@Banyuwangiball54 Yes
Thank you for media singapore wee need clear open jurnalis
Yes. Why?
Prabowo, be cautious with Gibran. Smells like the stench of Davao can be smelled as well in Jakarta.
Gibran actually diffrent from Duterte.. Gibran has proof him self as a proper leader in his hometown..
We pick gibran because we di think he capable.
He is and I hope International Community will condemn Indonesia for it.
They won't because what jokowi did is something that every other country also did, including the hypocrite western countries
when you taste power, you will not let it go.
Im indonesian. I can't imagine. Election most of voter chosse not base on the vision and mision. But only see the trend on tik tok. And didn't do reseacrh. You can imagine most of the educational voter only pass high and senior high scoll. Higher education only around 5%, crazy
Let's always do alot of good
As a Yogyakartan BIG MEH!
MEH for what?? Political family dynasty??? HAHAHAHHAHA, you are the funniest comment here yet.
@@dhanang for national political family dynasty.
@@zanealtair8492 But not regional one? Hypocrisy at its best. 🤣
@@dhanang Regional as well unless Special Region of Yogyakarta
@@zanealtair8492 Oh well, that's convenient. 😂😂😂
So basically you despise political family dynasty, unless it's on your region. Bravo. 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
I don't think a Singapore government-owned media like CNA should ever criticise political dynasties in any other country, don't you feel ashamed?
You're right. Isn't Lee Hsien Loong a product of a political dynasty?
The press must objectively reveal all aspects without pressure and embarrassment.
@@hartantahartanta "objectively"
@@hartantahartanta😂 then dare it talk about Singapore Lee.
@@happymelon7129they won't dare to make critic about any singaporean leader. Because if they did, their office door will be locked by singaporean police
Because singapore is an authoritarian state
what is the difference of political dynasty among Indonesia, Philippine, and Singapore (Lee Kuan Yew & Lee Hsien Loong) ?
If Jokowi delivers prosperity to Indonesian's peasants, working class and middle class in general then I'm fine with them, the problem is that Jokowi's networks just thrown said promises out of the window eversince he raised into Presidency
Now Jokowi and his current networks (on top of the pile of the Oldguard oppositions brought by Megawati) brought both stains and terrible culture and even declining growth of Indonesians in general
The big issue here is the abuse of power for dynastic political interests. Does this happen in Singapore or other countries? Bare in mind the level of corruption between Indonesia and Singapore is staggeringly significantly different.
Yeah where is the abuse of power? Majority of Indonesian disagree with your point.
Similarity between Indonesia 🇮🇩 n the Philippines 🇵🇭..
◽Both are Southeast Asian countries n members of ASEAN..
◽Both are Maritime Southeast Asian countries (not Mainland) n the largest archipelagic countries in the world..
◽Both are countries with the largest populations in Southeast Asia, (🇮🇩: 270M; 🇵🇭: 114M)..
◽Both are multi-ethnic n multi-religious countries, with >85% dominance of the Abrahamic religion (🇮🇩: Islam; 🇵🇭: Catholic)..
◽Both are middle-income countries in Southeast Asia..
◽Both are presidential unitary republics in Southeast Asia..
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N the most important thing is..
◽2022 Philippines election winners :
- Bongbong Marcos Jr (son of Ferdinand Marcos)
- Sara Duterte (daughter of incumbent President Rodrigo Duterte)
◽2024 Indonesia election winners :
- Prabowo Subianto (former Soeharto's son-in-law)
- Gibran R. Raka (son of incumbent President Jokowi)
with gimmick, not the ideas.. yeah, we're twins.. 🥂 wkwkwk 😂🤣🤭
Whataboutism (also known as whataboutery) is a conversational tactic where someone responds to an accusation of wrongdoing by pointing out a similar or worse offense committed by another party. Instead of addressing the original accusation directly, they shift the focus to someone else’s misconduct. Essentially, it’s a way to deflect criticism by saying, "What about this other thing?"
It really scares me tbh. They changed the law as they like. I still clearly remember both of Presidents Jokowi's sons stated they werent interested in politics and would rather being an entrepreneur. No matter how good Mr. Jokowi was, I think we should give chance to others too. Because different brain, different outcomes.
for me, i donnt care this is political dynasty or not, as long as this man can run this country better, i choose him/her
democracy is a dream. countries are always lead by families.
The answer is YES
The only reason the Jogya Sultanate was spared is because they subjugated to Soekarno. Jogya also had no substantial wealth or natural resources, like Sumatra and Kalimantan. All the other Sultanates from Sumatra to Kalimantan were massacred and destroyed by Soekarno. Nothing to do with "anti- colonialism" in fact. Soekarno a megalomaniac Dictator wanted a centralised Totalitarian Island Nation under his authority.
JFK has dinasty. So does Bush, so does LKY, so does Rockefeller family, So does Cecils, Sir Thomas Acland family in the UK, Anderson and Archer Family in Australia etc why can't Indonesia has family dinasty in Indonesia?
well its debateble that nepotism is wrong, the fact that prabowo could win 58% was something else. In the other hand public did not get a proper candidates, both anies and ganjar had involved in a corruptions before. and according to the last survey, Jokowi still maintance his higest satisfaction rate, what do you expected? the economy is doing well especially for the micro business. the elections its running, people happily voting. you can't runaway from things like that.
why are you comparing country affairs to family business? no wonder the politicians think the money is theirs to keep 😂
The winner tells the story.
It's easy to justify privileges when you are the recipient of them. However, when you lack privileges and are trying to climb your way up, you realize how unjust the system is and how everything is rigged against you to benefit a few.
They can spin a different narrative, as this video did, making it seem beneficial for the whole country and society. But in reality, it's just a cover-up for their own self-interest.
Whataboutism cannot justified the political situation that happened in Indonesia right now
It's blantant hypocrisy by CNA 😂😅
yes he is, but so many people don't realize the risk, it's like a ticking bombs that can explode anytime. people just don't realize cause of everything feels normal despite everything bad happen, the dollar rate just rising, nepotism, so many corruption, so many wasting money projects and many bad thing happen, Jokowi make all of that bad thing feels oke in public eye. yea just see what will happen
Kasus Gibran itu bisa teratasi kalau seandainya Partai Politik punya nyali buat upgrading the local elites into the national stage. Contoh: Gubernur Kepulauan Riau, Pak Ansar Ahmad (maybe Singapore Government know him), lalu juga ada mantan Walikota Surabaya, Bu Risma, yang sekarang jadi Menteri Sosial, ...
Tidak semua pemimpin punya kapasitas menjadi presiden. Ada orang yang waktu jadi bupati, berhasil membuat kapupaten pimpinannya maju pesat. Tapi giliran jadi gubernur malah mengecewakan. Kenapa? Karna ruang kerjanya lebih besar, fokus kerjanya lebih luas dan sewaktu dia jadi bupati, perhatiannya bisa difokuskan membangun satu daerah.
Dalam memilih pemimpin, perlu dipilih orang yang memang bisa dan berkapasitas sebagai pemimpin.
Dulu waktu dicalonkan jadi presiden di 2014-2019, jokowi sudah punya kapasitas menjadi presiden karna bisa memimpin dengan baik. Di periode kedua dia juga bisa menang karna dia sudah terbukti punya kapasitas sebagai presiden.
Sedangkan calon lain tidak punya.
Selama anies menjabat posisi gubernur, manyak orang melihat track recordnya yang punya raport merah, seperti membuang buang dana anggaran untuk hal yang tidak penting, penggundulan hutan kota yang rindang untuk membangun tempat bermain yg minim pohon, sampai sering kali melemparkan tanggung jawab kepemerintah pusat untuk masalah yang jadi tanggung jawabnya. Misalnya banjir.
Sedangkan untuk ganjar, dia gagal menaikkan taraf hidup masyarakat jawa tengah yang dia pimpin, sampai sampai predikat provinsi termiskin sejawa masih dipegang oleh jateng tanpa perubahan yang berarti. Kebanyakan pansos
Biasa jalurnya lewat jakarta. Sebagai dari papua ya saya mau tokoh papua atau org timur lain juga bisa masuk secara nasional.
As an alumnus of the Yogyakarta Indonesian Institute of the Arts, I felt sad hearing the opinions of two Gen Z students from the Institute. They have smartphones. They can find information about what the New Order is, why the PS continues to be held accountable for committing human rights violations, and how a Nepo-Baby (read: GRR) can easily become a vice presidential candidate because of the intervention of his father as an active president. as well as his uncle's role in the Constitutional Court. But what else? They may only get information from TikTok, and the information they receive is misleading information created by buzzers who PS and GRR pay.
As an Indonesian, Jokowi is the worst president after Suharto. He did what ever he could do for his son to be a vice president. I am so sick of him
He did what every indonesian parents would do, including your own parents
@@thegrandlord2914 but my parents don't, i'm searching my own job from 0, maybe yours then
im indonesian, short answer is yes
And the answer is YES! TOTALLY YES! And this is the time we know the REAL Jokowi and his family is
Short Answer = Yes
international criminal court need to charge JOKOWI AND PRABOWO FROM ABUSE OF POWER CAUSING NEGLECT TO SOCIETY
1:57 why does cna insider interview this kind of things? even though there are still many people in my country who are better to be interviewed than this kind of things.
2:53 what match, i wonder. I can't believe with the statements in the first 4 minutes
2 mahasiswa ISI ini gimana mikirnya, selamat lanjutin joged gas torang gas
saya gak masalah dengan dinasti, tapi saat ini itu dibangun demi kepentingan pribadi dan golongan politik saja, bukan demi kepentingan rakyat
As an Indonesian, I no longer feel nationalistic about my country, PLEASE I WANT TO MOVE TO ANOTHER COUNTRY
Dynasty politics should be fine as long as it is done with proper rule and regualtions and no hangky panky acts ..... which is actually the case here and people are sick with the acts ... see teh film dirty votes and it is more clear of what has been done and will continue to be done ..... Indonesia political environment is backward to 25 years ago
In short, the answer is yes.
Many people hate dynasty but agree with political agreement. Very irony
dinasti Lee harus ditumbangkan paksa.. Dinasti ini adalah simbul mafia dan penjahat seluruh dunia yang mencuci uang hasil kejahatannya di Singapura. Melayu Singapura harus berkuasa lagi di TUMASIK. Kebusukan Cina Singapura harus diakhiri.
the news coming from singapore youtube channel whose country ties to lee kuan yew dynasty is so thick, sounds quite funny yah?
so ? your point ? asian values ... what the big deal ?
Well said.
But Lee's dynasty has ended.
yup hypocrisy at it finest
@@pirate1367 is it really? who is the PM before and after Goh Chok Tong? Just because the current PM is from non lee's family doesn't mean it won't be for the next one