A basketball team can't intentionally score on itself, but it can do this

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  • In the NBA, there's no reason to try and shoot at your own basket (unless you're attempting to complete a shameless triple double). But EuroLeague rules use point differential as a tiebreaker, and that can lead to some truly weird situations.
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  • @MichaelJayValueInvesting
    @MichaelJayValueInvesting 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5567

    They are just going to leave us hanging like that?

    • @peanutbutter4879
      @peanutbutter4879 6 ปีที่แล้ว +215

      Michael Jay - Value Investing Maccabi won by 4.U r welcome.

    • @philliparnesen4493
      @philliparnesen4493 6 ปีที่แล้ว +258

      Downvoted for that reason. Video felt like a waste of time.

    • @alexandrucristian4272
      @alexandrucristian4272 6 ปีที่แล้ว +29

      th-cam.com/video/HiS8rKkuaXg/w-d-xo.html

    • @jarojelly4633
      @jarojelly4633 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      which team is that the one with the yellow shirts or whatever

    • @alexandrucristian4272
      @alexandrucristian4272 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Macabi is in yellow

  • @Rhapbus1
    @Rhapbus1 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2437

    "Euroleague"
    "The israeli and Turkish teams"
    Makes sense

    • @silentscorn5072
      @silentscorn5072 4 ปีที่แล้ว +193

      Israeli doesn't but Turkey is between Asia and Europe.

    • @NoLongerBreathedIn
      @NoLongerBreathedIn 4 ปีที่แล้ว +221

      Israel generally counts as European because they're not allowed into Asia.

    • @elhuuselhuus2521
      @elhuuselhuus2521 4 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      @@NoLongerBreathedIn they are just Europeans. Polish and British mostly.

    • @NoLongerBreathedIn
      @NoLongerBreathedIn 4 ปีที่แล้ว +83

      @@elhuuselhuus2521 I'm sorry, what?

    • @MichealJacksonsShoes
      @MichealJacksonsShoes 4 ปีที่แล้ว +55

      @@elhuuselhuus2521 First of neither Israel or turkey is European. Second of all Isreali people are not British but Jewish

  • @PaulGaither
    @PaulGaither 6 ปีที่แล้ว +7837

    Wait, so what the hell happened? Did they figure out how to do it? Did they win or lose? You went on a side tangent and left me hangin'.

    • @SecretBaseSBN
      @SecretBaseSBN  6 ปีที่แล้ว +3011

      Our fault! Maccabi won by 4, which meant they lost the tiebreaker and were relegated. Hooray!

    • @Tubewings
      @Tubewings 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1597

      Maccabi ended up winning the game 70-66 in regulation. Due to Darüşşafaka having a point differential of −36 (where they conceded 36 more points than they scored) and Maccabi having a point differential of −42, Maccabi was knocked out (they both finished with identical 4-6 records).
      As for the Real Madrid situation, even though they lost the first game against Varese 80-82, they won the second game 82-63, meaning they won the two-legged aggregate 163-144.

    • @tom.biermann
      @tom.biermann 6 ปีที่แล้ว +549

      Tubewings you the real MVP

    • @maxhines4705
      @maxhines4705 6 ปีที่แล้ว +78

      SB Nation aww I wanted them to win and advance
      Also, as I’m writing this one more thing came to mind: in the euro league (champions league and Europa) for soccer away goals count as “more important”... do away baskets count as more important in the euro league of basketball?

    • @VianoMusicAcademy
      @VianoMusicAcademy 6 ปีที่แล้ว +49

      Bring back Jon Bois.

  • @sarighasenfeld8228
    @sarighasenfeld8228 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1120

    As a maccabi fan I can confidently say that this was the weirdest game I've ever seen live. I was angry at my team for purposely bricking those free throws and not jacking up 3s but also lowkey wanted it to go to OT knowing it is a better chance to win by 11+. It was super weird, really didn't feel like I was watching a basketball game.
    Btw we won by 3 or 4 for those curious, I do remember that there was no OT though.

    • @GaviLazan
      @GaviLazan 6 ปีที่แล้ว +37

      I almost did a double take when they said Maccabi. At the beginning when he said Euroleague, I thought "maaaaaybe they'll talk about Maccabi" but immediately dismissed that.
      כנראה שכן בסוף... חחח

    • @Jordan_giat
      @Jordan_giat 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      זה היה משחק עצוב

    • @itailivnat3031
      @itailivnat3031 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      אללה מכבי

    • @Jordan_giat
      @Jordan_giat 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Gavers23 זה היה ברור שהם עומדים לדבר על מכבי.. גורדן פארמר היה עם מדי מכבי בתמונה הראשית

    • @adivstoler9714
      @adivstoler9714 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Gavers23 ya same lol

  • @StreakyBaconMan
    @StreakyBaconMan 3 ปีที่แล้ว +50

    When I was 9 I legitimately accidentally scored in my own basket, I just honestly forgot that we were going for the opposite hoop and when I got the ball I just went the wrong direction, and managed to miraculously sink a shot from just past the half court line. Fortunately for my team, the points didn't get added due to the fact it was a backcourt violation the second I had stepped over the midcourt line.

  • @epm1012
    @epm1012 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2189

    But can a dog be on the team?

  • @user-xc5pm6un1d
    @user-xc5pm6un1d 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2393

    "Basketball is about hoops, not math", that's how much they hate Jon Bois

    • @njackson6807
      @njackson6807 6 ปีที่แล้ว +216

      Jon Bois proceeds to erase the 3-point line

    • @romellemartinez9784
      @romellemartinez9784 6 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Exactly

    • @jackdiamond5340
      @jackdiamond5340 6 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      isnt jon bois one of the main guys at SB nation???

    • @Dandiego235
      @Dandiego235 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      dave tucker It’s about buckets

    • @complexteo-iwnl3321
      @complexteo-iwnl3321 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thats why you suck at basketball

  • @MrJethroha
    @MrJethroha 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1083

    If tied records are settled on point differentials, why do tied games go into OT at all?

    • @kylejohnson8447
      @kylejohnson8447 6 ปีที่แล้ว +77

      KaiGonGinn cuz dems da rulez

    • @galanndemoor3575
      @galanndemoor3575 6 ปีที่แล้ว +156

      Because in europe we first take a look at the number of victory just like in the nba but, if the number of victory is tied we look at the point difference

    • @spyox2215
      @spyox2215 6 ปีที่แล้ว +37

      Galann De Moor did you even read his comment?

    • @galanndemoor3575
      @galanndemoor3575 6 ปีที่แล้ว +59

      spyOx yes, he is asking why tied games are going to OT if the classement is based on point differencial, but it’s going to OT bc the first thing we look at is the number of victory

    • @BenDover-hh8hx
      @BenDover-hh8hx 6 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      KaiGonGinn there's no draws in basketball... no point system in standings... based on number of wins

  • @l-l
    @l-l 6 ปีที่แล้ว +183

    I'm not much a sports guy, but I love this content!

  • @rayfangrui
    @rayfangrui 6 ปีที่แล้ว +510

    Overtime counts as zero point differential. Solves everything.

    • @panej21
      @panej21 6 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Yea but then winning doesn't even mattee

    • @SpySappingMyKeyboard
      @SpySappingMyKeyboard 6 ปีที่แล้ว +78

      Point differential is only a tie breaker, so they would still have to win in overtime.

    • @Perifroog
      @Perifroog 6 ปีที่แล้ว +46

      Or maybe just don't use a system that's meant for soccer...

    • @illDefine1
      @illDefine1 6 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      Too many points in basketball for this to make sense.

    • @phataton8206
      @phataton8206 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Agree.

  • @64cgfan
    @64cgfan 6 ปีที่แล้ว +362

    Something similar happened in a soccer game. Barbados vs Grenada in the group stage of the 1994 Caribbean Cup. Barbados needed to win by 2 goals over Grenada to qualify for the finals on goal differential over Grenada, but with 7 minutes remaining, Barbados led by 2-1. Barbados scored an own goal to tie the game at 2-2 in order to bring the game into sudden death extra time. Grenada, realizing that they would qualify for the finals over Barbados regardless of whether they won or lost (by no more than one goal), then tried to score in both goals while Barbados defended both goals. At the end of regulation the game was tied, so they went into extra time where according to the tournament rules, the first goal scored counts for 2 and automatically ends the game. Barbados scored, sending them into the finals.

    • @stephdave6633
      @stephdave6633 6 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      As a fellow bajan please give me this moment.
      Blue,Yellow and Black!

    • @jyashin
      @jyashin 6 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Except soccer operates on a completely different system. In soccer, there is no real winner; they only play a certain amount of regular season games that can actually end with ties and then they arbitrarily just decide who the "best team" is. In basketball, there's a playoff with best-of series to determine the real winner so point differential has no place in the sport.

    • @64cgfan
      @64cgfan 6 ปีที่แล้ว +54

      jyashin It was a playoff tournament

    • @jyashin
      @jyashin 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Adam Incorrect. You cannot advance in soccer playoffs except with a win. You mean to say the Cup was playoff format, but you need to qualify via points (a la World Cup). Nevertheless the point format exists because non-international competitions have no playoff, and those consist of the majority of soccer games.

    • @64cgfan
      @64cgfan 6 ปีที่แล้ว +29

      jyashin Yes. I did mention in my original comment that it was the group stage of the tournament.

  • @thomasoreilly-pol6226
    @thomasoreilly-pol6226 5 ปีที่แล้ว +111

    My favorite weird rule: In baseball, detaching a piece of equipment (your glove) and throwing it and having it hit a foul ball results in awarding the batter a triple. It used to award the batter ba home run.

    • @howardbaxter2514
      @howardbaxter2514 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Honestly, the change really doesn't make a difference. If you are in a position to stop a home run by hitting it with your glove, then the runner is likely already around first. Meanwhile, if you throw your glove at a ball where the runner wasn't last first, the hit wasn't going to be a home run anyways.
      I honestly cannot think of any situation where it would be beneficial to hit the ball out of mid air.

    • @Anafyral666
      @Anafyral666 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@howardbaxter2514 to defend that exploded bird

    • @BlueSwede92
      @BlueSwede92 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      But what if a player throws his glove and it hits a fair ball?

    • @hippokrampus2838
      @hippokrampus2838 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@BlueSwede92 I know it's a year late, but nobody answered you so I will. Intentionally contacting a batted ball with detached equipment is only a three base award if said batted ball was fair at the time of contact. The ball is live and runners can advance further at their own risk.
      If the ball is foul, the call is simply foul ball.
      Relevant rule is 5.06(b)(4)(b & c).

  • @TheBedheadman
    @TheBedheadman 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2789

    Kinda stupid to use a system for soccer tournaments in basketball tbh.

    • @Kiddingyoumust
      @Kiddingyoumust 6 ปีที่แล้ว +635

      In theory, it's a good idea, its meant to force a team getting spanked not to give up. Even if they can't win, they would still try hard to make the point differential as small as possible for the next game.
      In the in NBA if the point differential is too big, teams usually rest their starters... Basically, giving up.
      So yeah, in theory, it was a good it... but it has flaws lol

    • @bluerabbitjeevs
      @bluerabbitjeevs 6 ปีที่แล้ว +299

      It also helps eliminate garbage time basketball and makes blowout games still seem somewhat interesting.

    • @Qazcraft
      @Qazcraft 6 ปีที่แล้ว +167

      it would work if they actually did it like in soccer... the game should only go to overtime if the teams are tied on aggregate

    • @hak525
      @hak525 6 ปีที่แล้ว +31

      Thats actually how the FIBA championship for european clubs works

    • @austinzimmerman7207
      @austinzimmerman7207 6 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      This was more like GD at the end of the season, not a direct head to head aggregate match.

  • @JeevesAnthrozaurUS
    @JeevesAnthrozaurUS 6 ปีที่แล้ว +659

    Auto Basquette

    • @muazshash6093
      @muazshash6093 6 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Auto baguette *french laugh*

    • @Lanzottv
      @Lanzottv 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@muazshash6093 L

  • @mattschmitt4393
    @mattschmitt4393 6 ปีที่แล้ว +84

    It’s easier to fake an accidental tip-in on the wrong basket off of a purposefully missed free throw.
    The team down 1 could have fouled, and then acted like they were trying to get the rebound and “accidentally” tip the ball in, try to get it back and make a three. Then try to win by 11 in OT

    • @rayir.1382
      @rayir.1382 6 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Matt Schmitt that's actually pretty smart.

    • @wendylipson9574
      @wendylipson9574 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      thats why most of the free throws were rimmed to prevent tip ins

    • @mattschmitt4393
      @mattschmitt4393 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Wendy Lipson I mean, Manu Ginnobili accidentally made a free throw once when he was trying to miss. Anything can happen

    • @jp3813
      @jp3813 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Why didn't Manu just airball the free throw?

    • @djvw9
      @djvw9 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      jp3813 because he was probably trying to miss to get his team an offensive rebound and the ball has to touch the rim. If it doesn’t the other team automatically gets the ball

  • @modusvivendi2
    @modusvivendi2 6 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Reminiscent of the infamous Barbados-Grenada soccer game where Grenada wanted to take the game to extra time and Barbados didn't care who won as long as it DIDN'T go to extra time... so they were trying to score into either team's goal.

  • @AzakielRuns
    @AzakielRuns 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I just watched a 6 minute long basketball video.
    I had no intention of watching a basketball video.
    I never watch basketball.
    It's 2 AM and it just popped up in my recommendations. I should go to bed.

    • @BeeHatGuy
      @BeeHatGuy 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hope you went to bed since then

  • @markjones952
    @markjones952 6 ปีที่แล้ว +707

    Basketball is my favorite sport. I like the way they dribble up and down the court.

    • @fatfuck2384
      @fatfuck2384 6 ปีที่แล้ว +70

      Mark Jones ok, that was epic

    • @RoyaltonDrummer922
      @RoyaltonDrummer922 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Nah that was pretty good

    • @alejandromadera597
      @alejandromadera597 6 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      I like the way people steal comments

    • @thomas8539
      @thomas8539 6 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      Just like I’m the king on the microphone, so is Dr.J and Moses Malone

    • @dbzbigfan2873
      @dbzbigfan2873 6 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      This got reminiscing about 2k12

  • @The1stFishBone
    @The1stFishBone 6 ปีที่แล้ว +220

    Why aren't NBA coaches that smart. There are NBA coaches who still can't figure out to intentionally foul if you're up by three and time is running out.

    • @Statalyzer
      @Statalyzer 6 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      Although NBA has some BS continuation rules, so the guy getting fouled can just toss the ball up in the air and get 3 FTs. Or make the 3 and get an and-1 (remember Larry Johnson?)

    • @jadedeye
      @jadedeye 6 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      This isn't really true anymore, refs get more freedom to make a judgment call now. If the guy gets fouled at halfcourt (or anywhere) and tosses the ball in the air, they won't give a shooting foul like they sometimes used to. Same thing with the rip through rule

    • @jp3813
      @jp3813 5 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      Because if you send them to the line, they can intentionally miss the 2nd free throw for a follow-up field goal.

    • @bena9369
      @bena9369 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      When i was 7 like 9ish yrs ago i was talking with my older brothers and was like guys y arent they fouling theyre up by 3 and r ok with the opponent scoring 2

    • @packers256
      @packers256 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@jp3813 JP, the chances of that happening are so low. Much lower than just getting a 3 scored on you.

  • @macnolds4145
    @macnolds4145 6 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Good stuff. This is what TH-cam is for- fun, insightful videos like these. Concise, holds my attention, no long-winded intro narrative, minimalist production, good banter. 5/5.

    • @MrJflomario
      @MrJflomario 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      macnolds "Smash that like button!"

  • @thegreatskinkpriest8104
    @thegreatskinkpriest8104 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    A high pass that would go out of bounds, so your teammate has to tip it back towards you to keep it from going out, but it goes in your own net. Definitely a hard thing to execute but possible, I think.

    • @hippokrampus2838
      @hippokrampus2838 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I think either this or a terrible game of hot potato. Honestly if they scored your way I say they deserve to let it slide.

  • @CSLucasEpic
    @CSLucasEpic 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Everyone talking down on Point Differential Rule, but that rule is the only reason the USA won the Gold Medal in the 1955 Pan American games. Brazil, the USA and Argentina had beaten all other teams, but they beaten each other when they played each other. USA beat Brazil, Brazil beat Argentina and Argentina beat USA. Because of this, all three teams had the same win-loss ration at the end of the tournament so the winner of the gold medal was decided by point differential, and the team with the most points in favor was USA, with Argentina second (winning Silver) and Brazil third (winning Bronze).

  • @KofieWhy
    @KofieWhy 6 ปีที่แล้ว +849

    WE LIKE SPORTS AND WE DON'T CARE WHO KNOWS

    • @coconut4595
      @coconut4595 6 ปีที่แล้ว +33

      Kofie Why? FROM SHOOTING HOOPS TO THE SUPER BOWL

    • @PickNNNPop
      @PickNNNPop 6 ปีที่แล้ว +30

      Football football 🏈 tennis 🎾 hockey 🏒 golf 🏌️

    • @PGDJ88
      @PGDJ88 6 ปีที่แล้ว +31

      Not like that c*nthole Steve

    • @golden-sun
      @golden-sun 6 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      just 2 guys and we're having a good time, having a good time

    • @ayelmao307
      @ayelmao307 6 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Kofie Why? From Wimbledon to the astrodome

  • @secworld3644
    @secworld3644 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    So, just for information, because I saw many comments misunderstanding the system: the point differential is only the first tie-breaker for teams with the same W/L - record after the regular season (just like the NBA has tie-breakers for playoff seedings). It has nothing to do with being like soccer (note: many European Basketball fans don't particularly like soccer, because it chokes all other sports in terms of tv-rights and such things - that and soccer players being overpaid crybabies...).
    Anyway: ECA has since changed the rules, such that games going to overtime count as net +- 0 pt-dif for tie-breakers.

  • @JoeCnNd
    @JoeCnNd 6 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    spoiler alert cliffhanger coming. I guess we could search up the game but that's work and it's my day off.

    • @rikupv
      @rikupv 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I think maccabi won by 4 in regular time so they ended up getting relegated

  • @algm9167
    @algm9167 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    You should have analyzed the Varese-Real Madrid game, January 18, 1962. RM coach, Ferrandiz, was a true genius

  • @seoulting28
    @seoulting28 6 ปีที่แล้ว +155

    1:54 Jordan Farmar, and he's the guy in the thumbnail too.

    • @Jyseng
      @Jyseng 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Seoul Ting on life I was gone ask that 😂😂

    • @njdss4
      @njdss4 6 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      I went to high school with him. I was not surprised to find out he became a pro basketball player. The guy lived with a basketball in his hands at all times.

    • @cityboysmkings9616
      @cityboysmkings9616 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Trash Too

    • @ZoozooTheDog
      @ZoozooTheDog 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      He’s my friend’s cousin lmao

    • @EM-mm1mc
      @EM-mm1mc 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      njdss4 played in the lakers as well:)

  • @petrie911
    @petrie911 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    It seems like the more logical solution would be to only count the point spread at the end of regulation play for tiebreaking, thus removing any incentive to own goal. It also makes more sense, as it ensures that the spread is being measured over the same amount of gameplay time for each team.

  • @CrescentCitySweaters
    @CrescentCitySweaters 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This is where the previous SB Nation video on intentionally goaltending free throws would’ve been a good strategy

  • @BiggestPLANTS
    @BiggestPLANTS 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I’m just surprised that everyone on the court was so aware of that situation in the first place

  • @russell_rozenbaum
    @russell_rozenbaum 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I like how they beep out some swear words but not others

  • @juliusmaxwell5298
    @juliusmaxwell5298 5 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    "It's way easier to just score a bunch of points"
    Names, the only 2 times it's ever happened in the history of basketball

  • @AlexanderMoen
    @AlexanderMoen 6 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    HOW DID THE GAME END?!?!!! You guys are killing me.

  • @bentrod3405
    @bentrod3405 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    My thought on an “accidental” basket is just chuck it so hard into the rim on the other side it bounces all the way back to the other goal.

  • @mmckeon2896
    @mmckeon2896 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    They should tackle this problem directly by not counting OT points in the differential unless the RT points are tied

  • @Maxto2xD
    @Maxto2xD 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I don't know if someone already said this but anyways: Omer Asik, goes up for a defensive rebound and he scores an own basket. you can search it on yt

    • @pepper696867
      @pepper696867 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      yes,but the turkish team did not even bother shooting,so...

  • @NotCommanderShepard
    @NotCommanderShepard 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I was at this game. At the last inbound Maccabi was ahead by 2 points if I remember correctly. Maccabi was inbounding and the inbounder nodded towards their own basket, suggesting to Jordan Farmar that he should just run back and score on their own basket. Farmar looked at him like "dude....enough, this is BS".
    This certainly was the most boring yet interesting game of basketball I've been to.

  • @mathieuhennes
    @mathieuhennes 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This also happend in a football game. Team number 1 needed to win against team number 2 in a game with 2 goals difference. In the 90th minute, Team number 1 was ahead by 1 goal. This was also the time were golden goal was still in use, but FIFA decided to count a golden goal as 2 goals. So team number 1 scored an own goal to go to extra time. Team number 2 knew what they were doing so they tried to make an own goal so that team number 1 would only win by 1 goal. Team number 1 split up and stood with 5 players at each goal defending them. Team number 2 couldn't score an own goal or a normal goal. In the overtime team number 1 scored the golden goal which counted for 2 and they went on in the tournament. This is a real story you can search it on TH-cam. (Sorry for bad English)

    • @ggmu4656
      @ggmu4656 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      This Channel itself had made the video on it

  • @chrisnavox
    @chrisnavox 6 ปีที่แล้ว +55

    Tf? Is this how yall really made the video? Why didn't you tell us how it ended.

    • @de132
      @de132 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Maccabi Tel Aviv won 70-66 over Darüşşafaka Doğuş, which led to Maccabi Tel Aviv getting sent down to Eurocup, and playing in the 2015-16 Eurocup.
      Maccabi Tel Aviv went 2-4 in the 2015-16 Eurocup Group M with Russian teams UNIC, Nizhny Novgorod and Slovenian team Union Olimpija. And thus were eliminated from Eurocup as well.
      In the Top 16 Euroleague round, Darüşşafaka Doğuş were placed in a group with Fenerbahçe (Turkey), Lokomotiv Kuban (Russia), Panathinaikos (Greece), Crvena zvezda Telekom (Serbia), Anadolu Efes (Turkey), Unicaja (Spain) and Cedevita Junior (Croatia).
      Darüşşafaka Doğuş went 5-9 and didn't place in the top 4.
      Fenerbahçe, Lokomotiv Kuban, Panathinaikos and Crvena zvezda did.
      Ultimately, CSKA Moscow won the league over Fenerbahçe, with Lokomotiv Kuban beating Laboral Kutxa (Spain) in the 3rd place game.
      MVP: Nando de Colo (CSKA Moscow) Best Defender: Kyle Hines (CSKA Moscow) Rising Star: Alex Abrines (lol remember him, NBA fans) (FC Barcelona)

  • @kylen6430
    @kylen6430 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I think Bill Veeck would be an interesting topic for one of these. Before baseball had a rule of permanent outfield walls, he was known to move temporary fencing depending on the opponent. He was also the guy to hire a little person for the advantage of a smaller strike zone. He also was first to integrate in American League and founded idea of ivy in wrigley...overal, just an interesting guy who loved bending the rules

  • @BitcoinMotorist
    @BitcoinMotorist 6 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I was like, “that guy looks like Jordan Farmer”

    • @pxstingup6973
      @pxstingup6973 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Patrick Dukemajian it is

  • @bilgin89
    @bilgin89 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    those of you who dont know, euroleague changed the way how point differential works after this incident. they changed so that only regular time works in point differential, OT is not included. OT is only to determine the winner. so let say game went to OT and a team won by 7 pts, it counts as a win however point differential is still 0 . (which makes sense because they tied in regular time), and OT is only to determine a winner.

  • @OurFoundingLiars
    @OurFoundingLiars 6 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    SB: Secret Bomb. If the team was to score on itself a certain amount of times, it would automatically activate the bilderberg group’s secret Bomb. That’s why we have to hire good athletes. Keep asking questions

  • @stephenj9470
    @stephenj9470 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I think overtime in all sports should count as +/-0 point differential. If you don't do that (or make it automatically +/-1), then you will always have these kinds of issues.
    After all, after regulation, you were up 0 points. A football team that wins by 5 did better than one that won by 7 in overtime.

  • @francisnyuydzefon9231
    @francisnyuydzefon9231 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Talk about the time Kobe realised the ring was off just by shooting and missing his shots. That's one of the most insane stories I found online.

    • @robertli3600
      @robertli3600 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      What?

    • @TokyoXtreme
      @TokyoXtreme 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@robertli3600 Just re-read the original comment. Don’t ask him to write it again.

  • @cordesbatchelder8036
    @cordesbatchelder8036 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Here’s an idea:
    Have yourself on one side of your net from a long range two pointer or three pointer distance, and a teammate on the other side of the net from a close/middle two pointer distance. Then pretend like your passing to your teammate when really your just shooting it in your own hoop. Maybe get some opponents to try to block out you and your teammate to have an excuse of throwing it high in the air instead of a chest level pass or a bounce pass.

  • @henryhagenbuch35
    @henryhagenbuch35 6 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    What if they shot on their own basket and had someone goal tend for them would that still count?

  • @sbonfiglioli
    @sbonfiglioli 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Idea for your next video: the strangest soccer match ever - Grenada vs Barbados, 1994 Caribbean Cup
    Two unusual rules were added to this tournament:
    1. Every match had to have a winner, even group stage matches. If no team won in 90 minutes it would go to extra time and penalties.
    2. The Golden Goal rule applied (if the match went to extra time, the first team to score would win immediately), BUT extra time goals counted for 2.
    Barbados needed to beat Grenada by 2 goals to advance, otherwise Grenada would advance. The match started with Barbados going 2 goals up, but then Grenada pulled one back. With only a few minutes left on the clock, the Barbados players realised they would get more time to keep playing if they took the game to extra time, and then if they got a Golden Goal, they would go through. They scored an own goal. Now Grenada needed to score a goal at either end before the 90 minutes were up to advance, since either a 1 goal win or loss would take them through. The last few minutes of the match Grenada were attacking both goals, while Barbados were defending both goals.
    In the end the Barbados plan worked: after hanging on to tie the game, they got their Golden Goal, advancing to the next round.

  • @thespongemonkey
    @thespongemonkey 6 ปีที่แล้ว +260

    That's why point differential is the worst stat in sports.

    • @averageo2343
      @averageo2343 6 ปีที่แล้ว +42

      I kinda get it in low score sports but in stuff like basketball it's really idiotic.

    • @thespongemonkey
      @thespongemonkey 6 ปีที่แล้ว +37

      Having an overtime and judging on point differential can't really co-exsist. And overtime is obviously superior, because it means more sports.

    • @Statalyzer
      @Statalyzer 6 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      I also hate that it's called "point DIFFERENTIAL". Just call it point difference or point margin. You aren't taking derivatives or using calculus.

    • @rmrmrm
      @rmrmrm 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      stfu roblox boy

    • @Xackory
      @Xackory 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@rmrmrm you made a Minecraft video

  • @jnerdsblog
    @jnerdsblog 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Weird Rules is one of the best things on TH-cam and I need more. I NEED MORE.

  • @tweakmeup1
    @tweakmeup1 6 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    yeah, try to score a 3 into your own basket and make it look like an accident. (under 1 minute) GOOD LUCK!!!

  • @Murdoc121
    @Murdoc121 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The best way to score intentionally but unintentionally is to have the whole team on it.
    Step 1. A player is elbowed in the head/face or knocked to the floor but his own teammate. It has to lot like an accident and not actually hurt them (the player).
    Step 2. The ball is passed to that player.
    Step 3. The player acts disorienting or bewildered and runs toward or immediately shoots in his own basket.
    Step 4. (This is the one that sells it) The rest of the team yells and screams at the player to stop or run the opposite direction.
    Therefore it looks like a player was accidentally hit, got confused and scored in his own basket.

    • @andrewpersaud4144
      @andrewpersaud4144 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      This would never work. The ref would blow the whistle if the player went down and looked disoriented and the team had the ball on their side of court. You'd never get to no.2

    • @Murdoc121
      @Murdoc121 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@andrewpersaud4144 Fair enough but Ive also seen referees not call blatant fouls.

  • @harleypeterson2433
    @harleypeterson2433 6 ปีที่แล้ว +110

    What weird rule did Jon Bois violate that caused him to be suspended from this channel forever?

    • @QuarrelsomeLocalOaf
      @QuarrelsomeLocalOaf 6 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      twitter.com/jon_bois/status/1008411012524060673?lang=en
      I think he's still in fire jail

    • @averageo2343
      @averageo2343 6 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      That's Jon on the right he just got a tan and is in witness protection.

    • @BiskviLover
      @BiskviLover 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      H

  • @jedirevan5892
    @jedirevan5892 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    For how to score on your own basket I recommend having all ten players under one basket getting the rebounds and making a shot.

  • @Scottsdaleofficesteve
    @Scottsdaleofficesteve 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    "Basketball is about hooping, not math". Basically the difference between NBA basketball and Euroleague. Much more fundamental/analytical based ball

    • @giorgospolitis8921
      @giorgospolitis8921 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Jack Caponi the real difference is the lost acceptance if your team loses in Euroleague vyou can't sleep all night while in the NBA most people get over it immediately that's why European Basketball is so evolved

    • @lamarpalmer25
      @lamarpalmer25 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      What has that won them? Lmaoo

    • @StaySqueezy12
      @StaySqueezy12 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@giorgospolitis8921 that's a bunch of over emotional bs. Holding onto losses doesn't make you any better. If anything that just sounds like a lack of mental toughness.

  • @grayd98
    @grayd98 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This is basically the same as the Barbados and Grenada game from the 90s.

  • @zuffyg4772
    @zuffyg4772 6 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Was that Jordan Farmar shooting them FTs?

    • @dumbdumber7203
      @dumbdumber7203 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      yes, but those misses were not intentional -- he's just trash

  • @_Simkim
    @_Simkim 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nowadays best-of-three or best-of-five formats are used in European competitions, but a few years ago there used to be two-legged playoffs decided on point difference, same as on football (soccer): Team A wins their home match by x points, then all they need to do to go through the next round is not to lose by a bigger margin. What they did to avoid the type of situations described in the video was to do away with overtime completely. Meaning, yes, we had final tied scores in basketball games.

  • @robertsears367
    @robertsears367 6 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Why didn't Darussafaka not just try and win it by themselves?
    Why did they go with the theatrics of Maccabi who has a lot to lose if they lose or win by just below 11 pts?

    • @Vengir
      @Vengir 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      If the Ds increased that point difference to more than one, the Ms would have a chance of tying it up and going overtime. A difference of one is difficult to tie, because only throws after fouls let you score one point. Otherwise it's two or three.

  • @JamesMeyer2
    @JamesMeyer2 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I want to see the end of this video play out in an NBA game or even a Division 1 college game sometime.

  • @dandynoble2875
    @dandynoble2875 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    It's great how they made a rule specifically to stop you from making use of the bad tournament setup.

  • @doraemon402
    @doraemon402 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    The easiest solution to that is: don't count the point differential in overtime, just the win. So the total differential would have been (in case of draw plus overtime): +11 +0= 11

  • @vadoom3353
    @vadoom3353 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I feel like the point differential is the root of all of these problems lmao

    • @CSLucasEpic
      @CSLucasEpic 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      It has pros and cons, just like every other rule. Having point diferantial rule means that, even if the game is a blowout, the losing team still tries hard to score point to make the point diferential as little as possible, so the starters still play the whole game, and garbage time does not exists. That's a Pros, the Cons would be a situation like the one you see in this video. Not having point diferential rule means that there is such a thing as garbage time and starters getting benched (which is something a lot of sports media seem to complain about NBA coaches not putting their starters so the fans can watch them when the game is meaningless and all that). But, on the other side, you will never see a situation like this in an NBA playoff. So yeah, pros and cons.

  • @204trebor
    @204trebor 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Years ago a High School team had to win by 6(?) points to advance to the playoffs. The team was up by 2 points with seconds remaining. They conceive a safety to send the game into overtime, and manage to get a touchdown to win the game and advance to the playoffs.

  • @aznmatic
    @aznmatic 6 ปีที่แล้ว +73

    where is jon bois

  • @haydenbuell7860
    @haydenbuell7860 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    It says you can’t score on your basket on a field goal so just make a full court free throw into your own basket

  • @ttmilbr
    @ttmilbr 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Hah, silly Euro-ball. 2003 Cav Ricky Davis tried to inbound and give himself a rebound for a triple-double. Traded soon after.

  • @apocrypha5363
    @apocrypha5363 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    At the risk of saying something really frikkin obvious, why don't they just rule that a game won in overtime counts for statistical purposes as a game won by 1 point?
    It's fair, since allowing a game to reach overtime means you weren't really dominant in the game (you won by the finest of margins,) and it would stop BS like this.

  • @leeazo
    @leeazo 6 ปีที่แล้ว +62

    2:05 *Was that Jordan Farmar ?*

    • @thejoshelias
      @thejoshelias 6 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Golden Kingdom Yep

    • @feelinggrape
      @feelinggrape 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes

    • @adivstoler9714
      @adivstoler9714 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ya he’s Jewish so they put him in as a national player and not international because u can only have like 5 international players at the time

    • @monteclah1275
      @monteclah1275 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Golden Kingdom e

    • @jeromebaker9596
      @jeromebaker9596 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      NBA champion Jordan Farmar lol

  • @truthsmiles
    @truthsmiles 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    So, there’s someone out there who:
    - Scored the very first auto-basket,
    - Scored the most auto-baskets,
    - Scored the only auto-basket, and
    - Scored the last auto-basket
    … in euro league

  • @daviddechamplain5718
    @daviddechamplain5718 6 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Which is why you don't use point or goal differential as a tiebreaker.
    EDIT:Also make any OT win count as a 1 point win.

    • @StaySqueezy12
      @StaySqueezy12 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Cristofer Wolz-Romberger I dont think it works well in basketball because of the amount of points in a game.

  • @wgunter2576
    @wgunter2576 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The funniest part is at 5:32! "Oh, no! F***! Guess we're down by two!!!"

  • @liongo6693
    @liongo6693 6 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    ישראל

    • @elfro1237
      @elfro1237 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ירושלים

  • @TheDarkphx
    @TheDarkphx 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Mr. James Naismith would be rolling his ankles right now if that were possible, pondering how something so simple like a ball in a basket would ever become so illogical and difficult!?!

  • @Tauttuk
    @Tauttuk 6 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Yellow #1 is that jordan farmar?

    • @thejoshelias
      @thejoshelias 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Marcus Sikvayugak Yep

    • @Tauttuk
      @Tauttuk 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Josh Elias gosh. Never thought id see that from him. Euro league rules seems way different. This point system for the regular season seems awkward.

    • @thejoshelias
      @thejoshelias 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Marcus Sikvayugak It's kind of similar to how they do it in soccer, in the Euroleague they prioritize wins first, then matchups, then point differential, then points scored, instead of how the NBA prioritizes wins first, then matchups, then division record, then conference record.

    • @Tauttuk
      @Tauttuk 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Josh Elias thanks for the break down.

  • @stricc657
    @stricc657 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    when you request a trade in 2k and your team won’t let you go

  • @vnm_midnightios4124
    @vnm_midnightios4124 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    0:59 find where it says C3PO

  • @bigtimeaze-azeramos9645
    @bigtimeaze-azeramos9645 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    this happened with the Philippines and Georgia game in the FIBA Olympic Qualifying Tournament just about 30 minutes ago as I'm typing this. Georgia needed to win by 19+, but they're only up 2. Chris Newsome of Gilas Pilipinas is shooting the 2nd of his 2 free throws with 2.8 seconds left. He misses the 2nd free throw, then Goga Bitadze of Georgia and the Orlando Magic tried to tip in the missed free throw to send the game into overtime of hopes of trying to win by 19+. He missed the tip in with nobody guarding him.😂😂

    • @FancyGianGamerPlayz
      @FancyGianGamerPlayz 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      LOL who else is here after Gago Bitadze tried to shoot an own goal? 🤣

    • @bigtimeaze-azeramos9645
      @bigtimeaze-azeramos9645 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@FancyGianGamerPlayz😂😂

  • @adams5558
    @adams5558 6 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Welcome to college football Saturday

  • @fpvillegas9084
    @fpvillegas9084 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    That "accidental" basket would be hilarious if it happened for real 😂🤣😁

  • @prohighlightsextra7549
    @prohighlightsextra7549 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I remember that game, very sad...

  • @hugh1297
    @hugh1297 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    It doesn't matter who won that game, the point is that with a one point differential it would have been almost impossible to get to overtime, so they lost the combined games by about ten points give or take

  • @wyattcusick5824
    @wyattcusick5824 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I would foul then when the team tries to brick you “accidentally” knock it in

  • @MrGallagher
    @MrGallagher 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    There is a RadioLab discussing a similar instance in the 2012 Olympics Women's Badminton tournament, wherein it turned out that it was advantageous to both teams to throw the match. Regardless of the outcome of the match, each team was going on to the next round; however the loser would play a much easier team with lower stats than the team that the winner would play. The result was that both teams were intentionally trying to throw the match and it became a surreal experience watching both sides trying to lose and to see which side would crack first and actually score.

  • @ortegao1020
    @ortegao1020 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    In soccer when u score an own goal it’s called an auto goal lol

  • @Emc4421
    @Emc4421 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    These really unique scenarios in sports are super cool. Great Video.

    • @Emc4421
      @Emc4421 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Also the breakdown and strategy involved is explained well.

  • @MaenMarashdeh
    @MaenMarashdeh 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Tell that to J.R Henny

  • @rjg7112
    @rjg7112 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think Own Basket is a better term than Auto Basket. This is a good example of the cons of having point based tie breaking formula.

  • @slayjah2
    @slayjah2 6 ปีที่แล้ว +146

    this point differential crap ruins the game, the nba's system is better

    • @aleksandarspasic6067
      @aleksandarspasic6067 6 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      slayjah NBA has way more games to determine it

    • @jyashin
      @jyashin 6 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      Then play more games. 10 games a season? High school teams play more than that amount per year. With only 10 games a season there is NO reason to even use point differential. Just play a head-to-head tiebreaker.

    • @oliver5381
      @oliver5381 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      king of patriotism right here

    • @carloschaves2437
      @carloschaves2437 6 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      jyashin they have domestic leagues and cups. Not to mention not every club in Europe is a millionaire to be travelling back and forth.

    • @dannynavarro8741
      @dannynavarro8741 6 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      jyashin You know how champions league works? Euroleague is just like UCL but for basketball, every team plays domestic league and the best ones play on the euroleague, there is a minor international cup called eurocup that is somewhat of an equivalent to the UEFA Europa League where the teams that are good but not good enough to play on the euroleague play, 10 games are just for the groups stage too though, hope you learned something

  • @nknriff7673
    @nknriff7673 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Although that situation was totally legal, the EuroLeague changed its rules the following season. Points scored during overtimes are not considered in tie-breakers.

  • @rockyblam8452
    @rockyblam8452 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Why didn’t they just airball all their free throws? Or is there some dumb rule about not being able to do that too?

  • @peter_smyth
    @peter_smyth 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    In cricket in England in the early 1900s, one player used a really wide bat to block the wickets, so a rule was introduced to limit the size of the bat.

  • @xlaythe
    @xlaythe 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I score on myself all the time.

  • @juniorfibroso
    @juniorfibroso 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Still the best show on youtube. Congrats.

  • @workingclassrunner
    @workingclassrunner 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Good old game theory!

  • @CeleTheRef
    @CeleTheRef 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Something similar almost happened a few years ago at an american football league in Italy. To be granted a playoff berth, Padova had to beat Vicenza by at least 5 points but Padova was leading by just 2 in the fourth quarter. Deep in their territory, they could have taken a safety to send the game into overtime. Thankfully they did the right thing driving the ball up the field and scoring a field goal to end the game. :)

    • @204trebor
      @204trebor 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      A similar thing happen in High School football (not sure what teams), a team was up by 2 points, with seconds remaining, and needed to win by a TD to advance. The team conceive a safety to send the game to OT, and won the game with a TD in overtime.

  • @folumb
    @folumb 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    The scenario was just terrible. The rules should be changed if they ever create a situation in which giving your best effort to win is not a winning strategy. Not even competition

  • @okey9256
    @okey9256 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    The best way to score on your own goal intentionally without anyone knowing is throwing a high pass and the other guy looks like he's trying to catch it while guiding it towards his own post

  • @ravidovicioussvillisonovro9346
    @ravidovicioussvillisonovro9346 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Yalla maccabi

  • @spencerj4640
    @spencerj4640 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    my man is listening so intently