Thank you so much for doing this review. Every time a search for reviews on power adapters they're literally just unboxing videos, this is the DATA I want to see. Subscribed!
It's 2am on a Friday night and I'm watching a nerd-tastic video about power adapters... I've said this before but I'll say it again yours is the only channel I've discovered that discusses sine wave distortion, overload cutoff, power factor and efficiency stats for off the shelf consumer power adaptors.... Pretty much THE go to channel in the power supply space! -- Black Friday sale, I cancelled the 67W GaNP rime charger order and went for the 100W GanPrime shown here. Only a $10 bucks difference in price between the two.
@@AllThingsOnePlace Would love you to force the heaviest possible continuous load on your top chargers to see what happens beyond their simply tripping under overload. I bought the new 100W MagPRIME and replaced my cute, white, very good looking and decently compact AOHI single port 65W adaptor (that thing, with its chiseled front face, sculpted rounded corners and breathing LED is almost a work of art, aesthetically). TBH, the fact that the legs fold means that spacewise, the 100W'ter doesn't feel much bigger than the 65 AOHI. I'm concerned about the heat tho... the 100W Anker gets Hella (literally Hell) hot. The Anker WILL actually burn you if you hold it for more than a few seconds. I mean, lingering skin damage 24 hours later kind of burns, not just "warm". On the other hand my 65W AOHI was manageable, heatwise. It got hot, but was never aggressively so. The Anker feels borderline thermonuclear after an M1 Macbook 14" and iPad Pro full charge! Seriously 45g of heat conductive compound forced into the gaps notwithstanding, this thing is a thermal beast...
Yess!! I’ve been holding off on purchasing the Anker Prime 100w power adapter because I didn’t know if it had power factor correction, I assume it did because it was 100w however i wasn’t sure. If it didn’t have power factor correction I would’ve passed on it.
Very helpful review thank you! Can you think of any reason why this A2343 is not compatible with MagSafe charging from a MacBook according to the Amazon listing? I was just about to order one for a MacBook Pro M3. This is what the listing says: "This charger does not support MagSafe charging for M2 MacBooks. We recommend using a standard USB-C to USB-C cable." Thanks!
Yeah, the magsafe cable tries to negotiate PD 3.1 140W mode. The charger tops out at 100W, so a USB C-C cable will do the job. I just plugged the magsafe cable into the Anker charger it says PD3.1 EPR on the protocol sniffer. It'll top out at 100 watts of course. You can be the tester to find out if it works. I don't have a macbook.
@@AllThingsOnePlace Thanks for checking! Yes I could use it with USB-C - USB-C cable but need the USB-C ports and like the magsafe charging cable. Can't really see what difference it makes uses the magsafe cable - but have to check with Anker or will just get it and try it out! Will report back if I do. Thanks.
If one was looking for a power supply for traveling the Anker Prime A2343 looks like an awesome fit. Form factor is pretty impressive for what it's delivering. Great vid!
The anker 317 is regularly available for $23 on Amazon, or about 30% of the Anker Gan Prime. With very low idle consumption, and a bonus USB-C cable, just how bad are effects from voltage ripple in practice? I have 3 of these units so I'm very curious.
The high ripple can cause some issues with your device because it has to smooth that signal out to a nominal DC value, the more AC the more heat the components inside the device will generate. In this case the 1V ripple was short peaks so very little energy is being transmitted, so it is probably okay. It may get confused once in a while and drop the charge signal if it happens to sample on a low voltage.
@SamJones1337 I came here to find this exact thing out. I'm clueless at technical details like this, so something like voltage ripple sounds scary. Glad it's been clarified that it's definitely not ideal but it (shouldn't) burn my house down or absolutely kill my phone battery
I do. I've noted ones that were particularly bad previously. The test equipment is not very quiet though so it tends to drown out the sound if it only produces low sound pressure levels. The power analyzer makes a lot of power supply noise.
@@AllThingsOnePlace thanks! I guess there’s a likelihood of sample variation for noise - since it’ll be dependent on things like the amount of silicon / heat glue applied to inductors.
@@AllThingsOnePlace Im satisfied with my new Anker A2343 Prime 100W GaN charger. Bought a week ago. Tested with my samsung S24 Ultra, it really does have PPS and charge in Super Fast Charger 2.0, also charge my company laptop really well without its big charger brick hahaha! Your product review + Data is what we need in these days. Subscribed!
@@AllThingsOnePlaceWhat about the moving part ? Engineers prefer less mechanical parts so it breaks less they say. The new Anker Prime 100W (2024) has issues in EU. I plan to leave one is car (just had the need of one yesterday). I can’t decide between 737 and A343 EU version. Are they ok for staying in the car during winters ? Thank you so much. Your content is higher tier.
It seems Anker's new Prime 100w fixed the issue I had with 2022 Prime 747, 737. The new 100w could power my Samsung wireless charging dock fine without cycling through whatever the dock was searching for. Would you try testing wall chargers with wireless dock to see how efficient they are or aren't?
I haven't done that yet, there was an IEEE article on this a while ago basically pushing the industry to not ever test wireless chargers, sponsored by manufacturers what a surprise... Anyway, it is a target to cover wireless charging at some point. It is going to be a mess, ha.
So, another way to look at it is 67W adapter might be running at full load and therefore getting hot, the 100W adapter will be running at a lighter load and therefore cooler and therefore last longer.
I Just got one of this new Prime 100w, and mine can renegociate PD without cutting the output, on mine having a 20V on the C1 port, it does not reset the port to 5v like on 8:17 , and the connected device just drops current to the new limit. Maybe your PD trigger/decoy have a bug that resets the requested voltage to 5V when a new capability is reported via PD?
The new anker devices sometimes do behave that way with no or very light load present. I put it on an oscilloscope to see the wave form and versus other power adapters it retriggers a lot faster. It also renegotiates almost instantly when it does reset, which isn't every time. Yes, the trigger will reset on any power loss, it has no memory, unlike a real device with storage which would stay powered on and probably not lose that CC signal in such a short time period.
@@AllThingsOnePlace I looked for years for a multiport adapter that would not reset the port, at least not in a way that the "sink" device would notice or stop charging. My S21 does not like any reset during power renegociation, It falls to sub 15w for the rest of the charging. That does not happen with this new Anker 100w, I can plug and unplug anything to the 60w port, and my S21 does not care. Using the PD sniffer function of the PowerZ, I can see that when I plug something, the adapter sends a new PD CAP message, with new power limits. Anyway, thanks for replying and testing further.
Do you think the 100w Anker Prime has better power renegotiation than the Anker 747? Also, disregarding the cost, which one do you like more overall personally? Thanks!
Have you tried any power adapters from AOHi? They're a somewhat newer company that I think was the OEM manufacturer for Belkin or some others in the past but now sell under their own brand. I've tried 30w, 65w, and 100w with pretty good luck but aside from devices which can show what kind of power they are getting and a USB C cable that will display PD/wattage on one end, I don't have a super accurate way to check them.
You can use it but it doesn’t evenly share power so one will get full speed and one will get a little slower speed. Still pretty much full speed on both. 25-45 watts.
I've been anticipating a new upload and have you seen the new anker prime battery banks and chargers, would love to get your opinion on them and or a review in the near future!
Do you think the higher idle power of the prime series may have to do with some of their extra features, such as the "active shield" where prime measures 3,000,000 times a day and the 317 measures 570,000?
It certainly could, the more times the power adapter has to do something the more energy it will need. There are also static losses in parts of the power supply that may not be as optimized, resistors for draining bulk capacitance or filtering components as an example.
@@AllThingsOnePlace Is there is any benefit to measuring temperature that many times? To me it seems like just a way to get "big number looks good". Although I'm not an expert in the field, I don't see much of a point to measuring temperature more than like 1 times a second, seems insanely wasteful for no benefit but I could be extremely misinformed.
I was eyeing the Anker 317 on Amazon because it only costs ~ $26 USD for me. Just needed a cheap 100W 1 port adapter with a 100w cable to charge my 14 inch m1 macbook pro. Full disclaimer I have no knowledge at all on how these things work so I am a luddite in that regards. That being said if I buy the device is it really that bad compared to say the 100W Anker ganprime? Is this one of those situations where by shelling out more money now (buying ganprime vs the 317) will save me money in the long run? Or is the electricity saved by using a "higher scoring" adapter negligible in the real world scenarios? For example you said that the 317 is bad because of "ripple" or something like that. In real life, does this really matter? Will it really harm my devices/damage them if I cheaped out and bought this adapter? Or is this just something only an enthusiast/specialist notes to tell the difference between adapters and realistically both chargers still adequately do the job. Kinda confused by how much the PQR rating really matters/scores differing from each other since I see a lot of devices get an E grade such as the 15W Samsung USB-A Adapter and the Anker 30W Nano 3 Charger yet I still hear you say that the nano 3 is good if you care about size and that you yourself still occasionally pick up the 15w samsung usb-a adapter. Forgive my ignorance but in other hobbies I indulge in an E grade would mean stay away from it as if it was the plague and never in any circumstances touch it because it's hot garbage yet on the pqs.app site E-grade usb chargers still seem to be usable which makes me question that in real world usage does the PQR score really matter that much (between an E and a B for example) Also at around the 11:46 mark the monoprice gets a high power quality score of 162 which makes me assume its a good value purchase since its cheap too but then you say because of its poor efficiency "is definitely a no as an actual power adapter" so even though it scores well you wouldnt buy/use this power adapter? i am so confused... does this mean if i buy/use this adapter it will damage my devices and is no better than a $5 aliexpress charger? I guess the tldr is that if someone gave you the anker 317 charger/monoprice charger to use for your own devices would you throw it away in disgust or is it just on paper objectively worse than the others but realistically both chargers are still perfectly safe to use for 100w laptop charging and won't damage your device no more than a more premium charger would? Or will these chargers slowly damage my computer?
Thank you for the detailed comment! Excellent questions and observations. The ripple is something your device will see while charging, so this value being higher can lead to some instability in charging and additional heat creation on the device end. It probably won't stop charging but it is the kind of thing that causes minor additional wear, in this case the adapter being less filtered is pushing that strain onto the external devices. The exact disadvantage is very difficult to quantify because there are too many variables. I'd probably worry most about this one but I may have had a faulty unit also. The PQR rating matters with the watt rating. At lower wattages the percentage advantage actually shrinks for residential customers in terms of electricity costs. So, a 15W adapter is a small difference in cost to the user, in aggregate the cost to the grid may not be insignificant but at 15W to the grid scale the comparison is not made. At grid scale the transformers are rated in VA not watts to make sure the current handling capability is within the capacity, not watts since the transformer will see VA as it's load. As a residential custom er you don't pay for losses outside of the home. At 15 or even 30W I would prefer a device with a D rating but there are very few devices out there with that but the scale doesn't adjust for the watt rating of the device. So, if you performed the metric and rescaled for 30W and under adapters the Samsung would come out higher but because it is being compared with 100W adapters that are much more efficient and much more effective at AC power handling they look worse. They could in theory get to a C rating if designed carefully without PFC but no one wants to do that. The EU system has also switched and many of the previously rated A++ devices are now E or F even so this isn't the only system working this way. The monoprice is a good value and a moderate performer, I didn't promote it since they just discontinued that model. Also, it may have had clean AC power, hence power quality being high, but it wasn't efficient at lower wattages, which means the average power number is higher versus others in the category. This does actually impact the score also. There is also the possibility to sacrifice watts to make the power quality look better, which is what incandescent bulbs do, they act like resistors so great power quality but a lot of watts wasted. They get derated by the efficiency of the light output. It is really a two or even three part system. 1) Idle watts - lower is better 2) Watts average - lower is better (category specific) 3) PQS or PQR - higher is better In terms of monetary benefit the benefit increases with watts consumed. If you only use 30 watts, there's a small difference, it isn't going to pay for itself. At 100w it becomes mixed. On sale the 317 makes a lot of sense strictly from a monetary perspective. It's offset value in terms of energy cost to a residential customer is dollars a year. Not enough to offset the cost of that fancy new adapter. There are advantages elsewhere in terms of saving energy and requiring less from the grid but those won't monetarily directly benefit the consumer. So, summary, the 317 is still a pass for me, but I have better options, if you have the 317 as a gift use it, could it cause some very slow minor issues with other devices, yes but also no. It is extremely variable how devices handle the power they get from the adapter. Is it a good adapter, no, is it a good power supply, no. Is it cheap, yes, very. The fact is AC power is complicated, PQR/PQS are a work in progress at attempting to simplifying some of that process. There will certainly be adjustments and scaling changes made in time to get things to better align with products to make a little less confusion, but for now everything of a type, power adapter in this case, is on the same scale.
Thanks for providing videos that provide technical information on chargers while still making it easy to understand! I'm on the fence between getting the anker 747 150w and the anker a2343 100w for my phone, ipad, and lenovo legion go (gaming handheld that uses a 65w charger). Do you think jumping up to the 150w charger is worth the price premium as right now the 150w charger is around 70 dollars and the 100w charger is 56 dollars?
I have a question about the adapter negotiation. I have Anker 737 charger and it seems to struggle if I try to charge: Macbook, iPhone and Sony Xperia all at the same time. It starts doing negotiation loop and devices keep disconnecting every few seconds. Is there any charger that would be powerful enough to provide enough juice for all of the devices while also being able to negotiate with the speed? PS. I am from Europe, so European plug is kind of a must. Thank you.
You should have enough power with that charger for those devices (depending on which Macbook), but the charge loop happens in some situations. I'm not sure with that specific mix of devices which charger would maintain charging without going into a loop. Satechi makes the 165W charger with a removeable cord, so you can plug in any cord end, not sure if they are available, it is only USB C though so not sure about the Sony.
That Monoprice charger (Monoprice part # 43556) has some serious quality issues, I think. After some months, mine popped the magic smoke charging an iPhone & a MacBook Air; horrible burnt smell. Turns out, plenty on Monoprice's site had the exact same result: after a few weeks / months, it'd get extremely hot (even charging basic, low-power devices) → loud pop & smoke → totally dead. I'm glad they discontinued it. Either it was designed poorly or it had poor QC. Can't remember in the past decade any "name brand" product popping & smoking (especially one ETL listed). Anyways, love the channel. Subbed. If you're ever bored, I'd send it to you. I kept the dead one around if Monoprice ever wanted to do an investigation, heh, but they never got back (though they did refund me happily).
Okay, yeah that makes a lot of sense. Thanks for sharing the experience with it. I have the newer version still here. Along with some of the other 100W adapters from monoprice. I wonder if I can make it pop. Yeah, eventually I am going to put up a way to share things for now though I don't have anything or maybe one of the other electronics channels will take it? I actually want to watch that video.
Have ordered the A2343 based on this review. Appreciate the detail! Question I have is does the travel clip shown on the first charger also fit the A2343? Or is there another option that does the same thing to avoid the usual fall-off-of-the-wall experience with some of the traditional options?
No, I did take it traveling recently and I used a "death-dapter", not recommended but functional. I want to do another video on travel adapters though.
As always, great review! This review was much anticipated, as I think the 100 watt offerings are the most versatile-enough to power almost anything without being overkill-and I've been eyeing the Anker A2343. Since it's currently discounted to $56, I think I'm going to snag it.
Hi, first of all amazing job and great analysis, keep it going. I really like the Ankers 100W and 120W, but the fact that on 20v mode they run kinda low it worries that it will damage my macbook, is that a concern or it doesn't really matters? Which one would you recomend? Is mostly to use one charger for all my devices
I haven't dove deep enough in to see if there is any risk of damage. Usually, the device plugged into is bucking the voltage to a lower level anyway, so it probably doesn't care too much if the input is a little low or high as long as it isn't out of the range of whatever switching chip is in the device.
Thanks for the review. Can you please compare Anker prime 100W with Anker 736 nano ii and if possiable add 737 120w. The reason is 736 Nano is in deal with good price compare to other 2. I purchased 736, but my Samsung S23 ultra doesn;t shows Super fast charger 2.0 with single USB C input. I am using 100 W type C table, So need some comparison planning to switch Anker Prime 100W, not sure whether it supports Samsung 2.0 Super Fast charging. Please let us know your thought's.
I have looked at all of those chargers, and yes, PPS support varies charger to charger from Anker. The Anker prime 100W seems to be the best of anything I have seen so far. This supports 5 amps in the PPS mode so should have full support for Samsung super fast charging 2.0.
@@AllThingsOnePlaceThe only thing that changes with a laptop plugged in. It doesn't provide samsung 2.0 super charging at that time. You will have to swap the ports in that case and then it doesn't provide enough charge for the laptop. That said 737 wasn't even able to provide my lenevo charging with samsung s23 ultra plugged in on 2nd port.
@@AllThingsOnePlace Nice, look forward to seeing it reviewed. Side note: it would be great if your website had more filtering ability or a "best of" list. I'm personally looking for a small, travel USB-C adapter in that power range, and trying to figure out which is your best rated is challenging.
I only just discovered the channel, so I am not well-versed on things like voltage ripple. I received the Anker 317 today as I have recently gotten a Lenovo Z16 that uses the proprietary 135w USB-C charger. I thought the 317 would be a nice travel adapter, so I can my Legion 135w GAN charger (imported from China) at my desk where I would be more likely to need full performance. Basically, will the 317 work for my ThinkPad safely?
I'm not sure if it will work. I expect it to work at 100W if the laptop supports PD 3 charging through the USB C port but manufacturers are extremely vague on support for 3rd party chargers I've found.
Great thorough content! Where do you find the slide on international adapters like the one shown at 1:30? Are they generic or specific to the devices you have?
They aren't exactly generic but they also kind of are. These particular ones are from minix and Invzi power adapters but many companies use this style clip on plug, I haven't looked to find the exact generic brand though.
They generally all will fit side by side, the outlets are usually one on top of the other in north america at least, the 317 wouldn't work that way, the prime should be good either.
While I understand that a PD charger (such as 100W or more) can easily power a laptop, are there any drawbacks / demerits to permanently replacing the original power adapter with a compatible PD charger? More specifically, I typically do not shutdown my laptop and it can stay powered for months at a time--I use it the same as a desktop PC. Is there any concern of damaging the PD charger with such usage? Is this a scenario that a PD charger is meant to support? Typically I have only used chargers to, well, charge batteries short term until they are full. I am not sure if such extended long-term usage of a charger is healthy or not. I suspect it will work, but advice from someone with more electrical experience would be appreciated.
So, in a static condition, the charger with a laptop is designed for full time use. Many of these compact chargers are designed for the second scenario you present. The use it for a short time then not use it. Like charging a laptop or a phone then using the device on battery. They really aren't full time power supplies. Some do better than others. It also depends on usage and wattage requirements. If the laptop is mostly idling, then it's probably not using many watts. If the laptop is pegged at 100% CPU 24/7 then you'd want a power supply that can handle that.
@@AllThingsOnePlace Thanks for the details. While the CPU is not 100%, I do run a few VMs on it with sporadic workloads and it can get a little hot sometimes. As you suggested it is probably best to continue using the dedicated power adapter for my usage.
Does the A2343 charger support 45W PPS charging on both USB-C ports simultaneously? In other words, can it charge two devices at 45W PPS each at the same time? And also betwwen this A2343 and the anker GaNprime 120W, what would you recommend ? somehow the 100W charger cost more than the 120w.
No, only one port. The power share is not even. The 737 and 747 chargers do even power sharing. This is tiny for a 100W charger so they're pretty highly optimized so using more compact components does cost a little more money.
Yeah, I have done a couple OEM adapters on the channel. Anker tends to customize a bit more, they may be assembled in the same factory and in some cases they are the same device.
How is the heat dissipation/temperature on the Anker Prime 100W when charging? I'm debating picking up the Anker Prime 100W or the Anker 747 140W as a travel charger for my M1 Max Macbook Pro 16. Which of the two would you prefer? Thank you for your great reviews!
That's a good question, the prime 100W does get pretty hot, where as the 747 at 100W wouldn't be too bad (remember the 747 doesn't have EPR so 100W max on one port). The Prime is a little more outlet friendly. The 747 basically requires an extension cord. For efficiency the 747 is better also.
How does the power split on the A2343 work exactly? Are all three ports fully dynamic, i.e. 5W + 5W load on the USB-A and C2 ports will let the C1 port run at 90W? It seems as if Anker has updated the specs on their website, and the power levels are fixed, not dynamic
Yeah, they aren't dynamic. It does renegotiate incredibly fast under light loads though. I don't think I've ever seen one with fully dynamic power sharing.
@@AllThingsOnePlace I've been emailing Anker and they have admitted that it isn't dynamic. They are saying the 737 GanPrime 120W A2148 is dynamic though, do you know if it is?
Thanks for the wonderful comparison. I have a favor to ask.. as your testing is mainly focused on the US power grid.. if possible, can you also make a video for the 220 V 50 Hz power grid charger recommendation ... will the Baseus Gan3 perform better than Anker Prime 100w in the 220 V 50 Hz power grid.
Yeah, on the better power adapters I will test on both 120/60 and 230/50 for videos but I don't always do that. I did one 230V only video, probably one of the worst performance videos I've made. Between those two adapters, they will perform similarly. The Baseus may get a bit tingly on higher voltages because of it's higher leakage current.
@@AllThingsOnePlace @AllThingsOnePlace thanks for the reply.. we International viewers will be really glad if the test results on 230v are shown on more future videos taking power leakage into consideration. If possible of course 😊 Also could you also share link of that 230v only video you mentioned. Thanks in advance.
When you say "the PPS can do 11 or 16 volts" what does that mean? I thought PPS starts at 3 and goes however high it goes in programmable steps, hence the PPS.
I think I got the Anker A2343 model for the Chinese market. Do you think that matters? Because the it has the CCC mark, but not the TUV mark. I'm worried that the other versions are safer. Maybe they make two versions of A2343, one safer for TUV and not, is that the case?
I asked AI this question but idk why but I own 2 Anker soundcore Motion x600 Bluetooth speakers and for some reason my 2022 2-port 35w Apple charging brick (the one that splits the current to 17.5w) won’t charge it.
Thanks so much for this video! I was wondering, that 317 ripple does seem super high compared to its competitors, and actually in general, would you even recommend purchasing it at that point? Because 1V is quite a bit, and i wanted to use it to charge my laptop at close to 100W so it would be at that usage quite frequently. And what are the long terms effects of such bad ripple? Thanks!
Yeah, I think some of the higher value is the probing error, and I should specify this is really noise plus ripple, but comparatively and reconnecting everything it did reproduce this number so it could have been something a little broken. I need to make a better setup for this too. I certainly added some noise to the measurements.
Hi, I'm going to buy a xiaomi 14T pro phone and it says it supports up to 120w fast charging. What charger can you recommend to maximize it? Hope you can answer, thanks
Does triggering OCP cause damage to the charger? I have a circuit that uses PD and a battery, but sometimes power draw will be too much for the PD bypass and it eill trigger OCP, sometimes repeatedly over a few seconds while the spike in power draw occurs.
On USB C the OCP is actually a MOSFET that turns off the output. These can be reset almost indefinitely. The charger itself has to be able to handle those spikes of current though and most, at least for short durations can just fine. If you try to run it right on the edge for a long time though, then it's likely to trip on something more long term damaging like over temperature protection.
Another great review. I like the new Anker Prime 100 but oh my is it expensive. At $85 it is too much. Hopefully when it's on sale at the a reasonable price it will be worth it.
just found your channel, thank you for your work! do you have any plans to test the new Anker prime 240W desktop charger? looking to get the full 140W to a MBP 16" via magsafe 3 cable. trying to decide between investing in a few more 140W apple chargers or a few anker 240W 😅
@@absolutelypitiful3837 The 200W charger powers all the lights I use for making videos. It gets used a lot, ha. I actually haven't tested the 240W yet.
Do you mind trying out the Baseus Powercombo Pro 20W and 40W as there is no need for the 30W? I was thinking this would be good for my accessories, like wireless headphones, my ikea lamp that uses USB-C and didn't come with a wall adapter (annoying), and my cell phone. I've been using the 100W Powercombo Pro for my bedside and it's great. I use the 100W desktop (no 120v outlets) for travel too from your recommendations.
Yeah, I haven’t done any lower wattage ones but it seems like a logical next step. Thanks for the suggestion. Oh, usb c led light. I’ve been looking for those.
I also saw your Rocoren 140W Review, and I've been thinking on getting one. Do you think that power brick is good for charging a 45W smartphone (Nothing Phone 2) and a 65W Power Bank at the same time? I also plan to use the same brick to charge a 100W laptop soon in the future. Or perhaps there's another power brick that you could recommend that is way better? Thanks for these videos, man.
That power adapter probably won't charge at the full speed on the 2nd port. Overall, I found the Rocoren to be a decent charger though. Whatever you end up choosing, I'd always look for reviews of failures though, sometimes power adapters will have a longer term high failure rate and that doesn't pop up for a while.
Don't get it for that. I was charging a laptop at 65w, and the second USB-C port would only charge at 20w. It really disappoints with multi port usage. I've noticed this with every multi port charger I've used that has 3 or more ports. They never fully respect their stated capacity. That's why I now always overshoot for the total wattage.
If you can get by with 60 watts the baseus blade hd is efficient and relatively compact. The evatronic 60w is another smaller reasonable capacity one. If you need a little more the only one I’ve done a video for that really can deliver the power is the anker 737 so far. I think there’s a lot on the market though and I have a lot to test still so it’ll probably be a future video that covers the ideal laptop power bank.
i realy enoying listen to your explanation regarding Power Adapters BUT :) im getting lost ... can you tell me what YOU will choose as the best power Adapter you think exist right now ? since im really struggle with this - to chose from. (out of all power bricks) that you tested?
@@AllThingsOnePlace I see, thank you nonetheless :) will keep an eye out! Will being a patreon give me access to the database you mentioned? Couldn't find a link for it.
I still have no clue why Anker decided to release a 74Wh powerbank with a 200W output. That thing doesn't have the battery capacity to make the high output useful I guess, "number go big" sells more products?
I dont see the issue here. You could just charge something like a laptop or multiple devices very quick on the go. Or power something decently hungry like a 200W LED for a few minutes.
@@Waldherz The per port maximum on this device is 100W, so max of 100W laptops, 100W lamps, and so on. Nobody asked for a higher power output than 140W on the 737. And AllThingsOnePlace already discovered the 737 was borderline able to thermally manage itself discharging at 140W. Discharging a smaller battery at a significantly higher rate is a cause for concern unless Anker hired magicians or professional engineers to make this powerbank not smell like burnt electronics.
Saw your Rocoren 140W review and was thinking of purchasing the 100W version for the weight. Glad that I talked myself into buying the 140W version instead for future-proofing and performance. I would have been upset if I bought the 100W one then watched this lol.
Be careful about the Rocoren 140W, it's really disappointing in multi port usage. While using it to charge a laptop at 65w in the first port, the second one would only charge my Samsung phone at 20w, not even 25w PPS.
@@absolutelypitiful3837 If you check the power distribution for the charger, they indicate that for dual port usage, the type C ports can only do 100W+20W. Since you already occupied the first port with a 65W laptop, the other port can only do 20W max (which is the case for your Samsung charging at 20W only). While that sucks because they don't use the entire 40W extra, they also didn't do false advertising so I can't exactly blame anyone either. Hopefully this would give other buyers an idea of what they're getting into (especially those who sadly don't do enough research).
@@absolutelypitiful3837 Agree. The port sharing kinda sucks. They really should have used the other 40W for dual port charging if they wanted to preserve the 100W of the first type C port. If not, they could also do like a 65W+65W config.
I don't know your specific needs. But if you need to charge two laptops or have higher power consuming devices, I'd go with the bigger adapter. But if it's a phone, laptop and watch or something similar, then the A2343 is probably good. The A2343 is quite a bit more compact.
@@AllThingsOnePlace Aye boss understood. But as both are very close in terms of wattage and going through most of your videos, I narrowed down to these 2 as both are available where I live. IF you had to pick one from both regardless of usage what would you pick in terms of better quality and longevity ?
I've ordered the Anker Prime 100. How long do you think it will take to charge my Anker 737 Power Bank? On their website it says 52 minuted to fully charge it. I'm guessing it's with the 140w or higher brick. How much longer you think it'll take with a 100w one?
From the Anker Prime tests, the charging time on the 250W power bank added about 20 minutes with a 100W adapter versus the 140W adapter. I'd expect something similar to that.
Would the A2343 be good suit for laptops that sit using 100W and battery protection ? Wanna get this instead of the 140W type C lenovo charger. Need an answer so I don't waste 80+ bucks
The laptop has to support PD charging. It's really up to the laptop. If it supports the power delivery mode and 100W via USB C then this charger is fine. The laptop decides how much power to use and when to charge the battery, the chargers only role is being plugged in.
@@AllThingsOnePlace Thank you very much.. im very concern with power distribution between ports also power negotiation after one port is no longer utilized.
Does this Anker Prime 100W in theory allow for 3 devices fast charging? Like, USB-C1 ~ 50W, C2 ~ 30W, USB-A ~ 18W? Thank you for the detailed review, as always.
It does allow multiple devices. It prioritizes the power to the port with the laptop logo on it. Then the second usb c, and finally the usb a. They didn’t break the power down into specific numbers so a little bit of experimenting is required there. I’ve used all three ports at once but I didn’t check the specific wattages on each, all devices were charged.
Any way you can test this and share the findings? Really curious about this stat - trying to figure out how the PowerIQ 4.0 includes the USB-A @@AllThingsOnePlace
I didn't test it for 2 hours... The logic behind that is devices have a 100 Wh battery size limit so it'll charge that to full in 1 hour if able to use all 100 watts. I usually only go 1 hour or until the temperature stops climbing. It is not the most efficient charger and it is very compact so it will overheat like most of these at some point. Especially in a warmer environment, >25C. It's got to get rid of 10 watts of heat in a tiny sealed box, nope.
For power banks, I probably pick the evatronic 60W or the baseus blade HD for a relatively compact but capable options. They are on the cheaper side of things so maybe not the most reliable in the long term. I certainly need to test a lot more to get a bigger picture though.
Could you advise if Anker 100w A2343 will charge 100w power bank during 1 hour? Will it increase temperature much or it is better to look at 120-150w variants? Will Baseus 100w charger (2C + 2A) be better for this use case or any other charger you advise?
So, 100 watt, no, because you don't know the storage capacity which will determine how long it takes to charge. 100 watts of power tells you how fast it can go and 100 watt*hours would be the energy it can contain, if you can get that much power exactly during the bulk of the charge cycle it would probably take 1.5 hours to fully charge if optimized. Note, not 1 hour since the charge actually slows down for the last 20% of capacity or so with Lithium Ion, this is normal. The Anker is quite efficient at the top end. So, it is actually a good choice for 100 watt charging, it is a bit cooler than the others. The 100W Baseus charger will do it, but it will throttle at some point. I have actually charged fully a 100 watt hour power bank with a 100 watt Baseus charger and it did make it before throttling but I wouldn't expect that everywhere, if it's a little warm, 25C even, it will throttle. I do think getting a few extra watts will help since in general things will be cooler and more stable over the long term.
@@AllThingsOnePlace Thanks for clarification. What models/brands over 100w do you recommend? I saw in your reviews that Anker 120/150w not good enough at high end (20v drop more than normal).
Does the Anker Prime support Samsung's 25W super fast charging? Also, for these adaptors, do they register as two devices connected if there are two cables plugged in, but only one is in use? Thanks!
Yes, it has the mode required for Samsung 25W charging. If only a cable is left plugged in (USB C to USB C) and nothing on the other end it will not recognize it as a device. So, it will not reduce the power. If you plug in an apple cable (USB C to anything on the other end) it will recognize it as a device and reduce the power level. If it is a USB A to apple anything cable, it will not do this.
@@AllThingsOnePlace is this true with all multiport adapters, or just this particular one? (USB C Apple cables registering as a device regardless of a device being connected)
@@daysleeprx512The charger will not see the cable until a device is plugged in for USB C to C, this is true for all, Apple devices do behave very differently and consume power generally a very small number still but consuming.
This anker prime vs the 100w baseus you like? Using mostly as a laptop usb c charger. Also do you think this anker prime is worth 25-30$ more than the Anker USB C Charger (GaN II 100W)? THANKS!
Versus the Gan II, yes, I think this is new enough and adds enough performance to be worth it, the USB negotiation is a lot better. The Baseus is still a good power supply though. I mostly end up using the desktop Gan3 one from Baseus.
Thank you for bringing some data into the charging game! I am currently trying to identify the (smallest) best option for a 100W PSU travel-replacement for my notebook. Tested an Alxum 100W charger, which disconnected when running a stress test for a few minutes, likely due to overheating or overcurrent. Is the new Anker Prime 100W able to be used as a stable power source, even under full load? The other options I am looking at are the Ugreen 100W and Baseus 100W (wall plug). If there is any option that does not disconnect from overheat (or at all really), that would be great. Kind of can not believe that the small Anker can withstand the heat.
Honestly, these all overheat eventually, none of them are rated for continuous use. The Anker is efficient enough though that it can stay on for an hour without quitting. The Baseus and Rocoren usually can go that distance as well. It also depends on ambient temperature. If it's 35 degrees C these all have to be derated 25+%.
@@AllThingsOnePlace yeah, that's sounds about right. Thank you! Still, an hour is more than I would have expected. Is there a charger that you can recommend for this kind of use case? The Anker 737 120W probably still is too small, but what about the newer 140W PD3.1 chargers? Like the Ugreen 140W or Anker 717 140W. Or any device that you would expect to be able to handle sustained loads up to 100W. Those would still be massively smaller than a normal notebook charger.
@@KeksdoseHi8 Yeah, stepping up to a 140W adapter should help the longevity since things will be a bit cooler. I'd approximate half of rating for a non-actively cooled adapter for full time use. For you, with a notebook, it shouldn't be at full load all the time anyway. So, even heavy tasks, rendering a video for example, don't take that long, or recharging a fully depleted battery, the 140w should hang on for long enough to complete those tasks.
Does this 100W Anker support Samsung's 45W super fast charging 2.0 ? Also, if two samsung devices are plugged with 45W charging support - What speed it will charge both devices ?
It does appear to support 45W on one port. On two ports it drops to 11V, drops to just under 5A though. The second port drops to 5 or 9V fixed only so no PPS. Won't do 3A either.
After I watch this video, I got myself the anker 100w Prime charger (uk plug version). I was happy at first upon receiving the device. Nice finishing and design. Unfortunately, it has random power interruption and power cycling even though only one device is connected. This is devastating, because I am using it on my minisforum EM680 minipc which does not have a built-in battery, it relies completely on the wall PD power, as such, my pc just went blackout without warming. So does my unsaved work, all disappeared in a blink of the eye. I thought that was the cable problem, so I swapped out my usual cable to my spigen thunderbolt 4 cable. Still no luck, this happened 3 more times in the same day. Utterly unacceptable. For a premium charger, the least it could do is provide the constant power. The charger body was barely warm, not even hot, so it's not heat problem. Further to that I tried using it on my other device. I tried charging my surface book 2, it does not even charge. It just kept power cycling non-stop. disappointing. I think this is the problem when people review item base on the 2min when it works on a power meter in front of the camera without testing it through with real world usage, and with actual device. What is the point of power quality score when it is killing my pc and nuking my unsaved work. Padon my language, I am very frustrated with this anker "top of the line" 100w Prime charger.
Yeah, USB chargers will recheck and renegotiate after a period of time, any hick up in the ask for 20V and the adapter will drop back to 5V, this adapter reacts really fast too. I do test them for a longer period of time but I don't put that in a video for even more boring content reasons. That is an interesting edge case where the fast reaction is actually a problem. As a charger it is great but as a power adapter it sounds like it isn't great since it drops out periodically. USB PD is far from perfect and far less reliable as a long term power option because it has to constantly be in contact. A lot of the mini-PC's still use AC adapters that I've seen. Thank you for sharing the troubles with this one.
@@AllThingsOnePlace I now have a new UK spec Prime 100w, and I have the same issue with the power resetting about every minute. I have a power tester in line and can see that every time this happens, the line takes a few seconds to get back up to 20v. The other issue is that it only goes to about 4.5a at peak. This is either with an official Magsafe 3 cable, or an Anker 5a cable that works with other adapters just fine, although with the Prime 100w the MacBook shows that charging has stopped repeatedly. Honestly a bit disappointing and I am not sure whether this one is faulty.
@@bottomtext5872 The only effect I have seen is it charges a little slower. So, 93 watts instead of 98 watts as it runs up against the current limit. Only in the 20V mode.
@@AllThingsOnePlace Good to know, appreciate all the hard work you've done. Your channel is the one thing that's making my life easier with picking chargers.
@@AllThingsOnePlace tks for sharing it… at that time I bought the anker 120W and that one share equally the power I guess… I’m able to charger 2 laptops simultaneously without compromising much the charging speed (only issue is that is not foldable pins (uk version) Planing to buy a second one and the 120w looks still the best option…
No, I can't do that one. I mean I can throw a power conditioner on a tracking generator and show it filters 200+ kHz noise or something but testing interference is a different game. Conducted emissions would be somewhat easier, exposure I don't have the ability to test though.
I do that sometimes. Each video is unique in the way it compares adapters, but yeah, trying to compare more things to Anker since they are the more popular brand.
I wish it was that easy. Unfortunately, many devices went off standard so the port may look the same but the devices aren't compatible. The A2343 is as close a match as any other higher end contender though.
@@AllThingsOnePlace the problem is a lot of power bank companies are lying about actual capacity and it could mean the difference between life or death! Unacceptable they need to be sued
It comes with a cable also, but what do you think, are there better options in this much power under 30.00, I'll accept at this point, a unit with two ports rather than one? If you'll help me with this, I'll reward you with deep secrets on portable audio and vacuum cleaners, ie the best for your money in the under 200.00 range:
YEAGH i WOULDN'T GET 4 OF THEM, MAYBE JUST 1 TO TRY IT AND SEE HOW BAD IT IS, I've lost track off the top of my head which one is my backup, I'll see if I can remember where I wrote it down and If I can find it, I'll pass it on, @@smoofwah3552
Sorry I know this is old, but looking to get one but ran into reddit saying this charger is not really dynamic in terms of power delivery. I don't know the technical terms but like usb c delivers 65w when 2 ports are being used. If I understand correctly it's like if one device only requires 20w the other will still get 65w instead of making use of the remaining 80w. Ean into your channel and subbed. Commenting early, hope I et some clarity
Yeah, there is usually a step to the power levels. Some chargers will dynamically adjust, the Anker A2343 is not dynamic but it is not bad though, it's really fast at picking the mode so, for example, my laptop doesn't even notice when I plug another device in.
@@AllThingsOnePlace hmm good point,, maybe I'm putting toouch value on the dynamic power. Though the new ones are expensive.. The old ones.. Review said they are legit (online stores are from China). I can get the old 120w, the old 737, cheaper than the new 100w Not sure why they removed the dynamic feature
It's amazing to see how Anker improves over the years - i'm traveling frequently and having a small charger is something I'm willing to pay for. The 100W charger is just amazing to carry around
Great! this is really helpful content! Thanks a lot Another question, do you at "temerature control" performance from each adapter to see safety performance like - Overheat protection - Overcurrent and over voltage protection - Short circuit protection
I don't check over voltage protection on the input side, I'd expect capacitor failures and fuses to blow so it would likely destroy almost every adapter, the point here is checking for safe failure. The more important thing I want to add is leakage current testing. Short circuit gets checked when I overload them so that is in every review. I don't have a good temperature controlled space for longer term temperature testing either, another good future add. Thanks for the suggestions.
Been using an Anger Powerport Speed 2 QCx2... It's not great. Ive had it for 5 years and it's reliable and charges anything but dang.. sooo slow. On Prime day I got the Mokin 65W 3-port. I know what you think of that 65w bracket but for $16 for a quality GaN charger I wanted to try it out. So Far, SO Good.. like at least double the speed and it's about half the size. I wish Id have found your channel three days ago tho.. Baseus looked great but I figured they were generic and unsafe.
Can't wait for a testing of the Targus 100w PPS GAN charger "PowerElite 100W GaN Wall Charger", it will be wonderful if you reviewed it, looks like it have a huge potential. Pleaseeeee
Thank you so much for doing this review. Every time a search for reviews on power adapters they're literally just unboxing videos, this is the DATA I want to see. Subscribed!
Glad I could help!
I've been waiting for this upload! Thanks very much brother
Hope you enjoyed it!
Are those burns on your right hand???
It's 2am on a Friday night and I'm watching a nerd-tastic video about power adapters... I've said this before but I'll say it again yours is the only channel I've discovered that discusses sine wave distortion, overload cutoff, power factor and efficiency stats for off the shelf consumer power adaptors.... Pretty much THE go to channel in the power supply space!
-- Black Friday sale, I cancelled the 67W GaNP rime charger order and went for the 100W GanPrime shown here. Only a $10 bucks difference in price between the two.
Nice! Yeah, that is a worthy upgrade. It's not even much bigger or heavier.
@@AllThingsOnePlace
Would love you to force the heaviest possible continuous load on your top chargers to see what happens beyond their simply tripping under overload.
I bought the new 100W MagPRIME and replaced my cute, white, very good looking and decently compact AOHI single port 65W adaptor (that thing, with its chiseled front face, sculpted rounded corners and breathing LED is almost a work of art, aesthetically).
TBH, the fact that the legs fold means that spacewise, the 100W'ter doesn't feel much bigger than the 65 AOHI.
I'm concerned about the heat tho... the 100W Anker gets Hella (literally Hell) hot. The Anker WILL actually burn you if you hold it for more than a few seconds. I mean, lingering skin damage 24 hours later kind of burns, not just "warm".
On the other hand my 65W AOHI was manageable, heatwise. It got hot, but was never aggressively so.
The Anker feels borderline thermonuclear after an M1 Macbook 14" and iPad Pro full charge!
Seriously 45g of heat conductive compound forced into the gaps notwithstanding, this thing is a thermal beast...
Yess!! I’ve been holding off on purchasing the Anker Prime 100w power adapter because I didn’t know if it had power factor correction, I assume it did because it was 100w however i wasn’t sure. If it didn’t have power factor correction I would’ve passed on it.
Glad I could help!
Very helpful review thank you! Can you think of any reason why this A2343 is not compatible with MagSafe charging from a MacBook according to the Amazon listing? I was just about to order one for a MacBook Pro M3. This is what the listing says: "This charger does not support MagSafe charging for M2 MacBooks. We recommend using a standard USB-C to USB-C cable." Thanks!
Yeah, the magsafe cable tries to negotiate PD 3.1 140W mode. The charger tops out at 100W, so a USB C-C cable will do the job. I just plugged the magsafe cable into the Anker charger it says PD3.1 EPR on the protocol sniffer. It'll top out at 100 watts of course. You can be the tester to find out if it works. I don't have a macbook.
@@AllThingsOnePlace Thanks for checking! Yes I could use it with USB-C - USB-C cable but need the USB-C ports and like the magsafe charging cable. Can't really see what difference it makes uses the magsafe cable - but have to check with Anker or will just get it and try it out! Will report back if I do. Thanks.
@@TheTechnologyManHi, have you tested it?
I'm kind of pissed off Anker releases an entire new line right after I purchased a bunch of the "old" new line.
Yeah, that seems to always happen.
If one was looking for a power supply for traveling the Anker Prime A2343 looks like an awesome fit. Form factor is pretty impressive for what it's delivering. Great vid!
Yeah, I actually like that product. I just took it internationally and it did everything I needed it to.
@@AllThingsOnePlacehi, what travel adapter do you recommend for someone who wants to travel to different parts of the world?
The anker 317 is regularly available for $23 on Amazon, or about 30% of the Anker Gan Prime. With very low idle consumption, and a bonus USB-C cable, just how bad are effects from voltage ripple in practice? I have 3 of these units so I'm very curious.
The high ripple can cause some issues with your device because it has to smooth that signal out to a nominal DC value, the more AC the more heat the components inside the device will generate. In this case the 1V ripple was short peaks so very little energy is being transmitted, so it is probably okay. It may get confused once in a while and drop the charge signal if it happens to sample on a low voltage.
@@AllThingsOnePlace thank you for your response and your absolutely fantastic videos. Your channel is the best on TH-cam for this
@SamJones1337 I came here to find this exact thing out. I'm clueless at technical details like this, so something like voltage ripple sounds scary. Glad it's been clarified that it's definitely not ideal but it (shouldn't) burn my house down or absolutely kill my phone battery
The Anker prime seems to be getting some bad ratings on Amazon for audible buzzing. Is this something you can listen out for during reviews?
I do. I've noted ones that were particularly bad previously. The test equipment is not very quiet though so it tends to drown out the sound if it only produces low sound pressure levels. The power analyzer makes a lot of power supply noise.
@@AllThingsOnePlace thanks!
I guess there’s a likelihood of sample variation for noise - since it’ll be dependent on things like the amount of silicon / heat glue applied to inductors.
Would you recommend Anker 737 GanPrime 120W charger (2022) or Anker A2343 Prime 100W GaN charger (2023)? Im deciding between those two.
They're both good choices. The A2343 is smaller. So, for travel needs it may fit the bill better.
@@AllThingsOnePlace Im satisfied with my new Anker A2343 Prime 100W GaN charger. Bought a week ago. Tested with my samsung S24 Ultra, it really does have PPS and charge in Super Fast Charger 2.0, also charge my company laptop really well without its big charger brick hahaha! Your product review + Data is what we need in these days. Subscribed!
@@AllThingsOnePlaceWhat about the moving part ? Engineers prefer less mechanical parts so it breaks less they say. The new Anker Prime 100W (2024) has issues in EU. I plan to leave one is car (just had the need of one yesterday). I can’t decide between 737 and A343 EU version. Are they ok for staying in the car during winters ? Thank you so much. Your content is higher tier.
It seems Anker's new Prime 100w fixed the issue I had with 2022 Prime 747, 737. The new 100w could power my Samsung wireless charging dock fine without cycling through whatever the dock was searching for.
Would you try testing wall chargers with wireless dock to see how efficient they are or aren't?
I haven't done that yet, there was an IEEE article on this a while ago basically pushing the industry to not ever test wireless chargers, sponsored by manufacturers what a surprise... Anyway, it is a target to cover wireless charging at some point. It is going to be a mess, ha.
Hello! May I know which specific new 100W Prime charger this is?
@@Resolute.j The 3 ports A2343
@@derelictxci thank you!
I am currently intending to purchase 747 2022 charger, is that on have issue:? like it tooks to much time to re-negotiaite when plug/unplugged?
Anker 67w vs 100w? I not sure I need the 100w, but not sure if the $20ish more is worth watts for ‘in case’, but also the size factor
So, another way to look at it is 67W adapter might be running at full load and therefore getting hot, the 100W adapter will be running
at a lighter load and therefore cooler and therefore last longer.
I Just got one of this new Prime 100w, and mine can renegociate PD without cutting the output, on mine having a 20V on the C1 port, it does not reset the port to 5v like on 8:17 , and the connected device just drops current to the new limit.
Maybe your PD trigger/decoy have a bug that resets the requested voltage to 5V when a new capability is reported via PD?
The new anker devices sometimes do behave that way with no or very light load present. I put it on an oscilloscope to see the wave form and versus other power adapters it retriggers a lot faster. It also renegotiates almost instantly when it does reset, which isn't every time. Yes, the trigger will reset on any power loss, it has no memory, unlike a real device with storage which would stay powered on and probably not lose that CC signal in such a short time period.
@@AllThingsOnePlace I looked for years for a multiport adapter that would not reset the port, at least not in a way that the "sink" device would notice or stop charging.
My S21 does not like any reset during power renegociation, It falls to sub 15w for the rest of the charging.
That does not happen with this new Anker 100w, I can plug and unplug anything to the 60w port, and my S21 does not care.
Using the PD sniffer function of the PowerZ, I can see that when I plug something, the adapter sends a new PD CAP message, with new power limits.
Anyway, thanks for replying and testing further.
Is there a good usb C to usb C cable that you recommend to use with the Anker Prime 100W adapter?
Anker makes decent cables, UGREEN, UNI, Baseus, pretty much all of them are good. Use the shortest one to do the job you need to do.
Do you think the 100w Anker Prime has better power renegotiation than the Anker 747? Also, disregarding the cost, which one do you like more overall personally? Thanks!
I am very impressed with this new one. I think it might be better. I was using the 747 but I’ll be giving this one some long term testing.
Have you tried any power adapters from AOHi? They're a somewhat newer company that I think was the OEM manufacturer for Belkin or some others in the past but now sell under their own brand. I've tried 30w, 65w, and 100w with pretty good luck but aside from devices which can show what kind of power they are getting and a USB C cable that will display PD/wattage on one end, I don't have a super accurate way to check them.
Yeah, I have a couple videos on Aohi adapters. In general they seem like reasonable quality chargers, some aren't great but can't win them all.
Good work👍
I have purchased 2 Samsung Galaxy phones which support pps 45w charging, can i use anker 736 100w charger ?
You can use it but it doesn’t evenly share power so one will get full speed and one will get a little slower speed. Still pretty much full speed on both. 25-45 watts.
Thanks 👍
I emailed Anker about this, when using both ports for PPS, the middle port will get the full 45W and the bottom port will get 35W.
I've been anticipating a new upload and have you seen the new anker prime battery banks and chargers, would love to get your opinion on them and or a review in the near future!
One will be out next week. The others aren’t showing up until October. But yeah I’m skeptical on 200 watts out of a 20kmah battery.
My Anker powerport atom iii 60W power adapter usb-a port stopped working….. what can I do?
Contact Anker. From what I have seen here they have excellent technical support.
Do you think the higher idle power of the prime series may have to do with some of their extra features, such as the "active shield" where prime measures 3,000,000 times a day and the 317 measures 570,000?
It certainly could, the more times the power adapter has to do something the more energy it will need. There are also static losses in parts of the power supply that may not be as optimized, resistors for draining bulk capacitance or filtering components as an example.
@@AllThingsOnePlace Is there is any benefit to measuring temperature that many times? To me it seems like just a way to get "big number looks good". Although I'm not an expert in the field, I don't see much of a point to measuring temperature more than like 1 times a second, seems insanely wasteful for no benefit but I could be extremely misinformed.
@@Holy_Hobo Yeah, temperature is slow data, so monitoring it faster than a few times a second is over board.
I was eyeing the Anker 317 on Amazon because it only costs ~ $26 USD for me.
Just needed a cheap 100W 1 port adapter with a 100w cable to charge my 14 inch m1 macbook pro.
Full disclaimer I have no knowledge at all on how these things work so I am a luddite in that regards.
That being said if I buy the device is it really that bad compared to say the 100W Anker ganprime?
Is this one of those situations where by shelling out more money now (buying ganprime vs the 317) will save me money in the long run?
Or is the electricity saved by using a "higher scoring" adapter negligible in the real world scenarios?
For example you said that the 317 is bad because of "ripple" or something like that. In real life, does this really matter? Will it really harm my devices/damage them if I cheaped out and bought this adapter? Or is this just something only an enthusiast/specialist notes to tell the difference between adapters and realistically both chargers still adequately do the job.
Kinda confused by how much the PQR rating really matters/scores differing from each other since I see a lot of devices get an E grade such as the 15W Samsung USB-A Adapter and the Anker 30W Nano 3 Charger yet I still hear you say that the nano 3 is good if you care about size and that you yourself still occasionally pick up the 15w samsung usb-a adapter. Forgive my ignorance but in other hobbies I indulge in an E grade would mean stay away from it as if it was the plague and never in any circumstances touch it because it's hot garbage yet on the pqs.app site E-grade usb chargers still seem to be usable which makes me question that in real world usage does the PQR score really matter that much (between an E and a B for example)
Also at around the 11:46 mark the monoprice gets a high power quality score of 162 which makes me assume its a good value purchase since its cheap too but then you say because of its poor efficiency "is definitely a no as an actual power adapter" so even though it scores well you wouldnt buy/use this power adapter? i am so confused... does this mean if i buy/use this adapter it will damage my devices and is no better than a $5 aliexpress charger?
I guess the tldr is that if someone gave you the anker 317 charger/monoprice charger to use for your own devices would you throw it away in disgust or is it just on paper objectively worse than the others but realistically both chargers are still perfectly safe to use for 100w laptop charging and won't damage your device no more than a more premium charger would? Or will these chargers slowly damage my computer?
Thank you for the detailed comment! Excellent questions and observations.
The ripple is something your device will see while charging, so this value being higher can lead to some instability in charging and additional heat creation on the device end. It probably won't stop charging but it is the kind of thing that causes minor additional wear, in this case the adapter being less filtered is pushing that strain onto the external devices. The exact disadvantage is very difficult to quantify because there are too many variables. I'd probably worry most about this one but I may have had a faulty unit also.
The PQR rating matters with the watt rating. At lower wattages the percentage advantage actually shrinks for residential customers in terms of electricity costs. So, a 15W adapter is a small difference in cost to the user, in aggregate the cost to the grid may not be insignificant but at 15W to the grid scale the comparison is not made. At grid scale the transformers are rated in VA not watts to make sure the current handling capability is within the capacity, not watts since the transformer will see VA as it's load. As a residential custom er you don't pay for losses outside of the home. At 15 or even 30W I would prefer a device with a D rating but there are very few devices out there with that but the scale doesn't adjust for the watt rating of the device. So, if you performed the metric and rescaled for 30W and under adapters the Samsung would come out higher but because it is being compared with 100W adapters that are much more efficient and much more effective at AC power handling they look worse. They could in theory get to a C rating if designed carefully without PFC but no one wants to do that. The EU system has also switched and many of the previously rated A++ devices are now E or F even so this isn't the only system working this way.
The monoprice is a good value and a moderate performer, I didn't promote it since they just discontinued that model. Also, it may have had clean AC power, hence power quality being high, but it wasn't efficient at lower wattages, which means the average power number is higher versus others in the category. This does actually impact the score also. There is also the possibility to sacrifice watts to make the power quality look better, which is what incandescent bulbs do, they act like resistors so great power quality but a lot of watts wasted. They get derated by the efficiency of the light output.
It is really a two or even three part system.
1) Idle watts - lower is better
2) Watts average - lower is better (category specific)
3) PQS or PQR - higher is better
In terms of monetary benefit the benefit increases with watts consumed. If you only use 30 watts, there's a small difference, it isn't going to pay for itself. At 100w it becomes mixed. On sale the 317 makes a lot of sense strictly from a monetary perspective. It's offset value in terms of energy cost to a residential customer is dollars a year. Not enough to offset the cost of that fancy new adapter. There are advantages elsewhere in terms of saving energy and requiring less from the grid but those won't monetarily directly benefit the consumer.
So, summary, the 317 is still a pass for me, but I have better options, if you have the 317 as a gift use it, could it cause some very slow minor issues with other devices, yes but also no. It is extremely variable how devices handle the power they get from the adapter. Is it a good adapter, no, is it a good power supply, no. Is it cheap, yes, very. The fact is AC power is complicated, PQR/PQS are a work in progress at attempting to simplifying some of that process. There will certainly be adjustments and scaling changes made in time to get things to better align with products to make a little less confusion, but for now everything of a type, power adapter in this case, is on the same scale.
Thanks for providing videos that provide technical information on chargers while still making it easy to understand! I'm on the fence between getting the anker 747 150w and the anker a2343 100w for my phone, ipad, and lenovo legion go (gaming handheld that uses a 65w charger). Do you think jumping up to the 150w charger is worth the price premium as right now the 150w charger is around 70 dollars and the 100w charger is 56 dollars?
Personally, I'd go with the smaller 100W charger.
Can you please review the new GaN 130W charger from Nomad?
Thanks for the suggestion. I added it to the list.
I have a question about the adapter negotiation. I have Anker 737 charger and it seems to struggle if I try to charge: Macbook, iPhone and Sony Xperia all at the same time. It starts doing negotiation loop and devices keep disconnecting every few seconds. Is there any charger that would be powerful enough to provide enough juice for all of the devices while also being able to negotiate with the speed? PS. I am from Europe, so European plug is kind of a must. Thank you.
You should have enough power with that charger for those devices (depending on which Macbook), but the charge loop happens in some situations. I'm not sure with that specific mix of devices which charger would maintain charging without going into a loop. Satechi makes the 165W charger with a removeable cord, so you can plug in any cord end, not sure if they are available, it is only USB C though so not sure about the Sony.
@@AllThingsOnePlace Thanks, will check out Satechi chargers. Its always possible to get USB C to pretty much anything else so thats not a problem.
That Monoprice charger (Monoprice part # 43556) has some serious quality issues, I think. After some months, mine popped the magic smoke charging an iPhone & a MacBook Air; horrible burnt smell. Turns out, plenty on Monoprice's site had the exact same result: after a few weeks / months, it'd get extremely hot (even charging basic, low-power devices) → loud pop & smoke → totally dead. I'm glad they discontinued it. Either it was designed poorly or it had poor QC. Can't remember in the past decade any "name brand" product popping & smoking (especially one ETL listed). Anyways, love the channel. Subbed. If you're ever bored, I'd send it to you. I kept the dead one around if Monoprice ever wanted to do an investigation, heh, but they never got back (though they did refund me happily).
Okay, yeah that makes a lot of sense. Thanks for sharing the experience with it. I have the newer version still here. Along with some of the other 100W adapters from monoprice. I wonder if I can make it pop. Yeah, eventually I am going to put up a way to share things for now though I don't have anything or maybe one of the other electronics channels will take it? I actually want to watch that video.
Have ordered the A2343 based on this review. Appreciate the detail! Question I have is does the travel clip shown on the first charger also fit the A2343? Or is there another option that does the same thing to avoid the usual fall-off-of-the-wall experience with some of the traditional options?
No, I did take it traveling recently and I used a "death-dapter", not recommended but functional. I want to do another video on travel adapters though.
As always, great review! This review was much anticipated, as I think the 100 watt offerings are the most versatile-enough to power almost anything without being overkill-and I've been eyeing the Anker A2343. Since it's currently discounted to $56, I think I'm going to snag it.
Yeah, the value makes sense at that point too.
Where do you get this price?
Hi, first of all amazing job and great analysis, keep it going. I really like the Ankers 100W and 120W, but the fact that on 20v mode they run kinda low it worries that it will damage my macbook, is that a concern or it doesn't really matters? Which one would you recomend? Is mostly to use one charger for all my devices
I haven't dove deep enough in to see if there is any risk of damage. Usually, the device plugged into is bucking the voltage to a lower level anyway, so it probably doesn't care too much if the input is a little low or high as long as it isn't out of the range of whatever switching chip is in the device.
Thanks for the review. Can you please compare Anker prime 100W with Anker 736 nano ii and if possiable add 737 120w. The reason is 736 Nano is in deal with good price compare to other 2. I purchased 736, but my Samsung S23 ultra doesn;t shows Super fast charger 2.0 with single USB C input. I am using 100 W type C table, So need some comparison planning to switch Anker Prime 100W, not sure whether it supports Samsung 2.0 Super Fast charging. Please let us know your thought's.
I have looked at all of those chargers, and yes, PPS support varies charger to charger from Anker. The Anker prime 100W seems to be the best of anything I have seen so far. This supports 5 amps in the PPS mode so should have full support for Samsung super fast charging 2.0.
@@AllThingsOnePlaceThe only thing that changes with a laptop plugged in. It doesn't provide samsung 2.0 super charging at that time. You will have to swap the ports in that case and then it doesn't provide enough charge for the laptop.
That said 737 wasn't even able to provide my lenevo charging with samsung s23 ultra plugged in on 2nd port.
Have you tested the new, smaller, 67W version of the Anker charger?
Not yet, but I have it.
@@AllThingsOnePlace Nice, look forward to seeing it reviewed. Side note: it would be great if your website had more filtering ability or a "best of" list. I'm personally looking for a small, travel USB-C adapter in that power range, and trying to figure out which is your best rated is challenging.
Very informative. Thank you! Please review the Anker Prime 67w if you can. Thanks!
Yep, I have that one too. Probably a month out on that one for a review. Don’t want to do too much Anker stuff all at once. It’s been a lot lately.
We can't get enough of Anker bud. Just keep them coming.
I only just discovered the channel, so I am not well-versed on things like voltage ripple. I received the Anker 317 today as I have recently gotten a Lenovo Z16 that uses the proprietary 135w USB-C charger. I thought the 317 would be a nice travel adapter, so I can my Legion 135w GAN charger (imported from China) at my desk where I would be more likely to need full performance. Basically, will the 317 work for my ThinkPad safely?
I'm not sure if it will work. I expect it to work at 100W if the laptop supports PD 3 charging through the USB C port but manufacturers are extremely vague on support for 3rd party chargers I've found.
Great thorough content! Where do you find the slide on international adapters like the one shown at 1:30? Are they generic or specific to the devices you have?
They aren't exactly generic but they also kind of are. These particular ones are from minix and Invzi power adapters but many companies use this style clip on plug, I haven't looked to find the exact generic brand though.
The 100W Anker… Do you think two of them would fit side - by - side on a wall socket?
They generally all will fit side by side, the outlets are usually one on top of the other in north america at least, the 317 wouldn't work that way, the prime should be good either.
@@AllThingsOnePlace It didn’t even occur to me that such a difference exists. Where I’m at, sockets are largely side - by - side…
While I understand that a PD charger (such as 100W or more) can easily power a laptop, are there any drawbacks / demerits to permanently replacing the original power adapter with a compatible PD charger? More specifically, I typically do not shutdown my laptop and it can stay powered for months at a time--I use it the same as a desktop PC. Is there any concern of damaging the PD charger with such usage? Is this a scenario that a PD charger is meant to support?
Typically I have only used chargers to, well, charge batteries short term until they are full. I am not sure if such extended long-term usage of a charger is healthy or not. I suspect it will work, but advice from someone with more electrical experience would be appreciated.
So, in a static condition, the charger with a laptop is designed for full time use. Many of these compact chargers are designed for the second scenario you present. The use it for a short time then not use it. Like charging a laptop or a phone then using the device on battery. They really aren't full time power supplies. Some do better than others. It also depends on usage and wattage requirements. If the laptop is mostly idling, then it's probably not using many watts. If the laptop is pegged at 100% CPU 24/7 then you'd want a power supply that can handle that.
@@AllThingsOnePlace Thanks for the details. While the CPU is not 100%, I do run a few VMs on it with sporadic workloads and it can get a little hot sometimes. As you suggested it is probably best to continue using the dedicated power adapter for my usage.
Does the A2343 charger support 45W PPS charging on both USB-C ports simultaneously? In other words, can it charge two devices at 45W PPS each at the same time?
And also betwwen this A2343 and the anker GaNprime 120W, what would you recommend ? somehow the 100W charger cost more than the 120w.
No, only one port. The power share is not even. The 737 and 747 chargers do even power sharing. This is tiny for a 100W charger so they're pretty highly optimized so using more compact components does cost a little more money.
Anker ganprime 100w vs anker 737 120w? Which is better?
If GanPrime then the 737, if the new Prime 100W adapter then I'd go with that.
Can you compare the anker with the Stiger Group power adapters? They said they supply anker. Iniu, Safuel, Kovol , etc are all owned by them
Yeah, I have done a couple OEM adapters on the channel. Anker tends to customize a bit more, they may be assembled in the same factory and in some cases they are the same device.
Great video! Between the anker prime 100w here and the anker 120W prime 737 which would you recommend mostly for portable laptop and phone charging?
The prime 100W is a little better form factor and more efficient. They did make improvements. It is also one of the lightest 100 watt adapters.
How is the heat dissipation/temperature on the Anker Prime 100W when charging?
I'm debating picking up the Anker Prime 100W or the Anker 747 140W as a travel charger for my M1 Max Macbook Pro 16. Which of the two would you prefer?
Thank you for your great reviews!
That's a good question, the prime 100W does get pretty hot, where as the 747 at 100W wouldn't be too bad (remember the 747 doesn't have EPR so 100W max on one port). The Prime is a little more outlet friendly. The 747 basically requires an extension cord. For efficiency the 747 is better also.
How does the power split on the A2343 work exactly? Are all three ports fully dynamic, i.e. 5W + 5W load on the USB-A and C2 ports will let the C1 port run at 90W?
It seems as if Anker has updated the specs on their website, and the power levels are fixed, not dynamic
Yeah, they aren't dynamic. It does renegotiate incredibly fast under light loads though. I don't think I've ever seen one with fully dynamic power sharing.
@@AllThingsOnePlace I've been emailing Anker and they have admitted that it isn't dynamic. They are saying the 737 GanPrime 120W A2148 is dynamic though, do you know if it is?
@@odin4227only USB-C ports x2 has Dynamic Power Allocation
Thanks for the wonderful comparison. I have a favor to ask.. as your testing is mainly focused on the US power grid.. if possible, can you also make a video for the 220 V 50 Hz power grid charger recommendation ...
will the Baseus Gan3 perform better than Anker Prime 100w in the 220 V 50 Hz power grid.
Yeah, on the better power adapters I will test on both 120/60 and 230/50 for videos but I don't always do that. I did one 230V only video, probably one of the worst performance videos I've made. Between those two adapters, they will perform similarly. The Baseus may get a bit tingly on higher voltages because of it's higher leakage current.
@@AllThingsOnePlace @AllThingsOnePlace thanks for the reply.. we International viewers will be really glad if the test results on 230v are shown on more future videos taking power leakage into consideration. If possible of course 😊
Also could you also share link of that 230v only video you mentioned.
Thanks in advance.
When you say "the PPS can do 11 or 16 volts" what does that mean? I thought PPS starts at 3 and goes however high it goes in programmable steps, hence the PPS.
So, this actually has two modes. The 11V mode can go to a little higher current.
I think I got the Anker A2343 model for the Chinese market. Do you think that matters? Because the it has the CCC mark, but not the TUV mark. I'm worried that the other versions are safer. Maybe they make two versions of A2343, one safer for TUV and not, is that the case?
I wouldn't be surprised if they are the exact same product. They probably change the labeling regionally, which is good.
I asked AI this question but idk why but I own 2 Anker soundcore Motion x600 Bluetooth speakers and for some reason my 2022 2-port 35w Apple charging brick (the one that splits the current to 17.5w) won’t charge it.
Yes, the apple 35W charger is not compatible with some Anker equipment, I have verified this.
Thanks so much for this video! I was wondering, that 317 ripple does seem super high compared to its competitors, and actually in general, would you even recommend purchasing it at that point? Because 1V is quite a bit, and i wanted to use it to charge my laptop at close to 100W so it would be at that usage quite frequently. And what are the long terms effects of such bad ripple? Thanks!
I think also a possibility is you got a defective unit? Not excusing Anker here, but it just seems super super odd
Yeah, I think some of the higher value is the probing error, and I should specify this is really noise plus ripple, but comparatively and reconnecting everything it did reproduce this number so it could have been something a little broken. I need to make a better setup for this too. I certainly added some noise to the measurements.
@@AllThingsOnePlace I see, thank you! Would you say at this point in time it is worth buying?
Hi, I'm going to buy a xiaomi 14T pro phone and it says it supports up to 120w fast charging. What charger can you recommend to maximize it? Hope you can answer, thanks
Does triggering OCP cause damage to the charger? I have a circuit that uses PD and a battery, but sometimes power draw will be too much for the PD bypass and it eill trigger OCP, sometimes repeatedly over a few seconds while the spike in power draw occurs.
On USB C the OCP is actually a MOSFET that turns off the output. These can be reset almost indefinitely. The charger itself has to be able to handle those spikes of current though and most, at least for short durations can just fine. If you try to run it right on the edge for a long time though, then it's likely to trip on something more long term damaging like over temperature protection.
Another great review. I like the new Anker Prime 100 but oh my is it expensive. At $85 it is too much. Hopefully when it's on sale at the a reasonable price it will be worth it.
Yep, on sale is the time to buy that one.
what's difference between 747 and A2343 when it comes to dynamic power distribution?
The A2343 is almost instant at changing modes. Where as the 747 is a second or so to change modes like many other chargers.
just found your channel, thank you for your work! do you have any plans to test the new Anker prime 240W desktop charger? looking to get the full 140W to a MBP 16" via magsafe 3 cable. trying to decide between investing in a few more 140W apple chargers or a few anker 240W 😅
I do plan to look at that one eventually.
@@AllThingsOnePlace compare it to the Wotobeus 240W if you still have it ;)
@@absolutelypitiful3837 The 200W charger powers all the lights I use for making videos. It gets used a lot, ha. I actually haven't tested the 240W yet.
Do you mind trying out the Baseus Powercombo Pro 20W and 40W as there is no need for the 30W? I was thinking this would be good for my accessories, like wireless headphones, my ikea lamp that uses USB-C and didn't come with a wall adapter (annoying), and my cell phone. I've been using the 100W Powercombo Pro for my bedside and it's great. I use the 100W desktop (no 120v outlets) for travel too from your recommendations.
Yeah, I haven’t done any lower wattage ones but it seems like a logical next step. Thanks for the suggestion. Oh, usb c led light. I’ve been looking for those.
@@AllThingsOnePlace Ikea has two or three of them at very least. Two are ring lights and one is monitor bar light.
I also saw your Rocoren 140W Review, and I've been thinking on getting one. Do you think that power brick is good for charging a 45W smartphone (Nothing Phone 2) and a 65W Power Bank at the same time? I also plan to use the same brick to charge a 100W laptop soon in the future.
Or perhaps there's another power brick that you could recommend that is way better? Thanks for these videos, man.
That power adapter probably won't charge at the full speed on the 2nd port. Overall, I found the Rocoren to be a decent charger though. Whatever you end up choosing, I'd always look for reviews of failures though, sometimes power adapters will have a longer term high failure rate and that doesn't pop up for a while.
Don't get it for that. I was charging a laptop at 65w, and the second USB-C port would only charge at 20w. It really disappoints with multi port usage.
I've noticed this with every multi port charger I've used that has 3 or more ports. They never fully respect their stated capacity. That's why I now always overshoot for the total wattage.
hey just found your channel what would u say is the best powerbank for my laptop max{150w} looking for someting atleast 65w
If you can get by with 60 watts the baseus blade hd is efficient and relatively compact. The evatronic 60w is another smaller reasonable capacity one. If you need a little more the only one I’ve done a video for that really can deliver the power is the anker 737 so far. I think there’s a lot on the market though and I have a lot to test still so it’ll probably be a future video that covers the ideal laptop power bank.
@@AllThingsOnePlacethanks allot👍
i realy enoying listen to your explanation regarding Power Adapters BUT :) im getting lost ... can you tell me what YOU will choose as the best power Adapter you think exist right now ? since im really struggle with this - to chose from. (out of all power bricks) that you tested?
Yeah, I am going to putting a video out in a couple weeks on my choices.
@@AllThingsOnePlace looking forward ❤️❤️
Why my huawei p30 pro still charge at max 40w on anker 100w type a port if the type a port only output at 22.5w.
saw this on the other thread.
what about the Ugreen Nexode Pro 100W in comparison?
It’s on the list but it is a low priority.
@@AllThingsOnePlace I see, thank you nonetheless :)
will keep an eye out!
Will being a patreon give me access to the database you mentioned? Couldn't find a link for it.
@@fargoththemoonsugarmaniac No, I pretty much just do some early access data on Patreon. Same information though.
How’s the leakage on the Anker A2343? Definitely trying to avoid the tingle on my chargers.
It is very low leakage.
I still have no clue why Anker decided to release a 74Wh powerbank with a 200W output. That thing doesn't have the battery capacity to make the high output useful
I guess, "number go big" sells more products?
I dont see the issue here. You could just charge something like a laptop or multiple devices very quick on the go.
Or power something decently hungry like a 200W LED for a few minutes.
Yeah. I expect bad things to happen haha. Should be fun.
@@Waldherz The per port maximum on this device is 100W, so max of 100W laptops, 100W lamps, and so on.
Nobody asked for a higher power output than 140W on the 737. And AllThingsOnePlace already discovered the 737 was borderline able to thermally manage itself discharging at 140W. Discharging a smaller battery at a significantly higher rate is a cause for concern unless Anker hired magicians or professional engineers to make this powerbank not smell like burnt electronics.
Saw your Rocoren 140W review and was thinking of purchasing the 100W version for the weight. Glad that I talked myself into buying the 140W version instead for future-proofing and performance. I would have been upset if I bought the 100W one then watched this lol.
Yeah, I think a few people will be in that boat. I'd take the 140W any day.
Be careful about the Rocoren 140W, it's really disappointing in multi port usage. While using it to charge a laptop at 65w in the first port, the second one would only charge my Samsung phone at 20w, not even 25w PPS.
@@absolutelypitiful3837 If you check the power distribution for the charger, they indicate that for dual port usage, the type C ports can only do 100W+20W. Since you already occupied the first port with a 65W laptop, the other port can only do 20W max (which is the case for your Samsung charging at 20W only). While that sucks because they don't use the entire 40W extra, they also didn't do false advertising so I can't exactly blame anyone either. Hopefully this would give other buyers an idea of what they're getting into (especially those who sadly don't do enough research).
@@honey16mae I must have gotten confused, I thought I had read something else on the specs.
Still it's disappointing.
@@absolutelypitiful3837 Agree. The port sharing kinda sucks. They really should have used the other 40W for dual port charging if they wanted to preserve the 100W of the first type C port. If not, they could also do like a 65W+65W config.
Any way to purchase from Amazon using a code to add affiliate at checkout? The affiliate links don't work on my devices
hmm, not sure. They are amazon affiliate links already. I have heard people have issues with them in some countries.
Anker 737 Charger GaNPrime 120W or this one Anker Prime 100W A2343, which one should I pick
I don't know your specific needs. But if you need to charge two laptops or have higher power consuming devices, I'd go with the bigger adapter. But if it's a phone, laptop and watch or something similar, then the A2343 is probably good. The A2343 is quite a bit more compact.
@@AllThingsOnePlace Aye boss understood. But as both are very close in terms of wattage and going through most of your videos, I narrowed down to these 2 as both are available where I live. IF you had to pick one from both regardless of usage what would you pick in terms of better quality and longevity ?
@@rhlparkrlongevity maybe the 150W GaN Prime or 240W Desktop GaN Prime
100w is more portable though .
I've ordered the Anker Prime 100. How long do you think it will take to charge my Anker 737 Power Bank? On their website it says 52 minuted to fully charge it. I'm guessing it's with the 140w or higher brick. How much longer you think it'll take with a 100w one?
From the Anker Prime tests, the charging time on the 250W power bank added about 20 minutes with a 100W adapter versus the 140W adapter. I'd expect something similar to that.
Would the A2343 be good suit for laptops that sit using 100W and battery protection ? Wanna get this instead of the 140W type C lenovo charger. Need an answer so I don't waste 80+ bucks
The laptop has to support PD charging. It's really up to the laptop. If it supports the power delivery mode and 100W via USB C then this charger is fine. The laptop decides how much power to use and when to charge the battery, the chargers only role is being plugged in.
can give your take on the Toocki 140w Gan Charger with 5 ports (3 usb C and 2 usb A)
Thanks for the suggestion, I will have to check it out.
@@AllThingsOnePlace Thank you very much.. im very concern with power distribution between ports also power negotiation after one port is no longer utilized.
Does this Anker Prime 100W in theory allow for 3 devices fast charging? Like, USB-C1 ~ 50W, C2 ~ 30W, USB-A ~ 18W? Thank you for the detailed review, as always.
It does allow multiple devices. It prioritizes the power to the port with the laptop logo on it. Then the second usb c, and finally the usb a. They didn’t break the power down into specific numbers so a little bit of experimenting is required there. I’ve used all three ports at once but I didn’t check the specific wattages on each, all devices were charged.
@@AllThingsOnePlace ok, thanks for the reply.
Any way you can test this and share the findings? Really curious about this stat - trying to figure out how the PowerIQ 4.0 includes the USB-A @@AllThingsOnePlace
@@JC-bm9so
2-Port Output
USB-C 1 + USB-C 2: 65W + 35W
USB-C 1 + USB-A: 76W + 22.5W
3 Ports Output
USB-C 1 + USB-C 2 + USB-A 3: 46W + 30W + 22.5W
@@nazarshortcuts
2-Port Output
USB-C 1 + USB-C 2: 65W + 35W
USB-C 1 + USB-A: 76W + 22.5W
3 Ports Output
USB-C 1 + USB-C 2 + USB-A 3: 46W + 30W + 22.5W
Incredible. Anker learned how to do 12 V. I have no words.
haha, yeah, when I was testing I was like huh? That's not supposed to be there. I don't think you can buy modern USB chipsets that don't have it.
Just bought the Anker Prime environment. Need to make sure I'm feeding them properly.
Watt them daily?
Hi! Any chance you gonna get your hands on the Aukey 100w PA-B7S Omnia ii ?
Yeah, I'll probably have to do another Aukey video at some point. I added it to the list.
Did I miss the temperature section. Will the Anker prime shut off at full tilt for 2 hours?
I didn't test it for 2 hours... The logic behind that is devices have a 100 Wh battery size limit so it'll charge that to full in 1 hour if able to use all 100 watts. I usually only go 1 hour or until the temperature stops climbing. It is not the most efficient charger and it is very compact so it will overheat like most of these at some point. Especially in a warmer environment, >25C. It's got to get rid of 10 watts of heat in a tiny sealed box, nope.
I've seen a few of your videos of testing these power banks - I'm curious which you think is the best of all the ones you've tested.
For power banks, I probably pick the evatronic 60W or the baseus blade HD for a relatively compact but capable options. They are on the cheaper side of things so maybe not the most reliable in the long term. I certainly need to test a lot more to get a bigger picture though.
Could you advise if Anker 100w A2343 will charge 100w power bank during 1 hour?
Will it increase temperature much or it is better to look at 120-150w variants?
Will Baseus 100w charger (2C + 2A) be better for this use case or any other charger you advise?
So, 100 watt, no, because you don't know the storage capacity which will determine how long it takes to charge. 100 watts of power tells you how fast it can go and 100 watt*hours would be the energy it can contain, if you can get that much power exactly during the bulk of the charge cycle it would probably take 1.5 hours to fully charge if optimized. Note, not 1 hour since the charge actually slows down for the last 20% of capacity or so with Lithium Ion, this is normal.
The Anker is quite efficient at the top end. So, it is actually a good choice for 100 watt charging, it is a bit cooler than the others. The 100W Baseus charger will do it, but it will throttle at some point. I have actually charged fully a 100 watt hour power bank with a 100 watt Baseus charger and it did make it before throttling but I wouldn't expect that everywhere, if it's a little warm, 25C even, it will throttle. I do think getting a few extra watts will help since in general things will be cooler and more stable over the long term.
@@AllThingsOnePlace Thanks for clarification. What models/brands over 100w do you recommend? I saw in your reviews that Anker 120/150w not good enough at high end (20v drop more than normal).
Does the Anker Prime support Samsung's 25W super fast charging? Also, for these adaptors, do they register as two devices connected if there are two cables plugged in, but only one is in use? Thanks!
Yes, it has the mode required for Samsung 25W charging. If only a cable is left plugged in (USB C to USB C) and nothing on the other end it will not recognize it as a device. So, it will not reduce the power. If you plug in an apple cable (USB C to anything on the other end) it will recognize it as a device and reduce the power level. If it is a USB A to apple anything cable, it will not do this.
@@AllThingsOnePlace is this true with all multiport adapters, or just this particular one? (USB C Apple cables registering as a device regardless of a device being connected)
@@daysleeprx512The charger will not see the cable until a device is plugged in for USB C to C, this is true for all, Apple devices do behave very differently and consume power generally a very small number still but consuming.
Does it support PPS 2.0 45w???
@@ttd8677yes
Thanks for the review! Excellent content. Subbed
Thanks!
Now 2024 Anker Prime A2343 The best wall adapters 100w ?
As of now I think it is.
This anker prime vs the 100w baseus you like? Using mostly as a laptop usb c charger. Also do you think this anker prime is worth 25-30$ more than the Anker USB C Charger (GaN II 100W)? THANKS!
Versus the Gan II, yes, I think this is new enough and adds enough performance to be worth it, the USB negotiation is a lot better. The Baseus is still a good power supply though. I mostly end up using the desktop Gan3 one from Baseus.
@@AllThingsOnePlaceappreciate the reply and your videos
Thank you for bringing some data into the charging game!
I am currently trying to identify the (smallest) best option for a 100W PSU travel-replacement for my notebook. Tested an Alxum 100W charger, which disconnected when running a stress test for a few minutes, likely due to overheating or overcurrent.
Is the new Anker Prime 100W able to be used as a stable power source, even under full load? The other options I am looking at are the Ugreen 100W and Baseus 100W (wall plug).
If there is any option that does not disconnect from overheat (or at all really), that would be great. Kind of can not believe that the small Anker can withstand the heat.
Honestly, these all overheat eventually, none of them are rated for continuous use. The Anker is efficient enough though that it can stay on for an hour without quitting. The Baseus and Rocoren usually can go that distance as well. It also depends on ambient temperature. If it's 35 degrees C these all have to be derated 25+%.
@@AllThingsOnePlace yeah, that's sounds about right. Thank you! Still, an hour is more than I would have expected.
Is there a charger that you can recommend for this kind of use case? The Anker 737 120W probably still is too small, but what about the newer 140W PD3.1 chargers? Like the Ugreen 140W or Anker 717 140W. Or any device that you would expect to be able to handle sustained loads up to 100W.
Those would still be massively smaller than a normal notebook charger.
@@KeksdoseHi8 Yeah, stepping up to a 140W adapter should help the longevity since things will be a bit cooler. I'd approximate half of rating for a non-actively cooled adapter for full time use. For you, with a notebook, it shouldn't be at full load all the time anyway. So, even heavy tasks, rendering a video for example, don't take that long, or recharging a fully depleted battery, the 140w should hang on for long enough to complete those tasks.
Anker A2343 vs Aohi magcube 100w. Which one is better iyo?
Anker wins that one.
Thanks @@AllThingsOnePlace. Great content btw
Where can I buy one of those clip-on/slide-on adapter clips?
These ones are from Invzi. You can get them on Amazon.
Does this 100W Anker support Samsung's 45W super fast charging 2.0 ?
Also, if two samsung devices are plugged with 45W charging support - What speed it will charge both devices ?
It does appear to support 45W on one port. On two ports it drops to 11V, drops to just under 5A though. The second port drops to 5 or 9V fixed only so no PPS. Won't do 3A either.
Hello, does the anker supports the clip on international adapter ? Also what is the reference of this clip on ?
No, they don't fit. The clips are from Minix adapters or Invzi, or lots of other brands.
@@AllThingsOnePlace thanks for your answer. Too bad.
Would you rather get the anker prime 100w or the ugreen 100w nexode pro?
Anker Prime. Ugreen is getting better so that opinion may change, but the Nexode Pro I looked at was anything but pro.
@@AllThingsOnePlace thank you
After I watch this video, I got myself the anker 100w Prime charger (uk plug version). I was happy at first upon receiving the device. Nice finishing and design.
Unfortunately, it has random power interruption and power cycling even though only one device is connected. This is devastating, because I am using it on my minisforum EM680 minipc which does not have a built-in battery, it relies completely on the wall PD power, as such, my pc just went blackout without warming. So does my unsaved work, all disappeared in a blink of the eye. I thought that was the cable problem, so I swapped out my usual cable to my spigen thunderbolt 4 cable. Still no luck, this happened 3 more times in the same day. Utterly unacceptable. For a premium charger, the least it could do is provide the constant power. The charger body was barely warm, not even hot, so it's not heat problem.
Further to that I tried using it on my other device. I tried charging my surface book 2, it does not even charge. It just kept power cycling non-stop. disappointing.
I think this is the problem when people review item base on the 2min when it works on a power meter in front of the camera without testing it through with real world usage, and with actual device. What is the point of power quality score when it is killing my pc and nuking my unsaved work. Padon my language, I am very frustrated with this anker "top of the line" 100w Prime charger.
Yeah, USB chargers will recheck and renegotiate after a period of time, any hick up in the ask for 20V and the adapter will drop back to 5V, this adapter reacts really fast too. I do test them for a longer period of time but I don't put that in a video for even more boring content reasons. That is an interesting edge case where the fast reaction is actually a problem. As a charger it is great but as a power adapter it sounds like it isn't great since it drops out periodically. USB PD is far from perfect and far less reliable as a long term power option because it has to constantly be in contact. A lot of the mini-PC's still use AC adapters that I've seen.
Thank you for sharing the troubles with this one.
@@AllThingsOnePlace I now have a new UK spec Prime 100w, and I have the same issue with the power resetting about every minute. I have a power tester in line and can see that every time this happens, the line takes a few seconds to get back up to 20v. The other issue is that it only goes to about 4.5a at peak. This is either with an official Magsafe 3 cable, or an Anker 5a cable that works with other adapters just fine, although with the Prime 100w the MacBook shows that charging has stopped repeatedly. Honestly a bit disappointing and I am not sure whether this one is faulty.
very useful information. Can you test aukey pa-b7s 100w, Thanks.
Yeah, I have to get that one in still. Not going to make the next 100w round.
Does the anker prime still have the low voltage issues like the 737?
They are about the same.
@@AllThingsOnePlace Interesting. Has the low voltage caused any problems in actual usage or does it fall below spec and just adjust from there?
@@bottomtext5872 The only effect I have seen is it charges a little slower. So, 93 watts instead of 98 watts as it runs up against the current limit. Only in the 20V mode.
@@AllThingsOnePlace Good to know, appreciate all the hard work you've done. Your channel is the one thing that's making my life easier with picking chargers.
Does Anker prime 100 watt charger support Samsung S23 or S24 ultra fast charging
Yes, it has both 11 volt and 16 volt PPS modes with up to 5 amps of output.
If I used the 2 type c in the anker 100w… will I have 2 cable charging by 50w? (I need a single charger for 2 laptops)
No it can't do that. It drops to 5/9V only on the second port and 2.22A so 20W max on that second port.
@@AllThingsOnePlace tks for sharing it… at that time I bought the anker 120W and that one share equally the power I guess… I’m able to charger 2 laptops simultaneously without compromising much the charging speed (only issue is that is not foldable pins (uk version)
Planing to buy a second one and the 120w looks still the best option…
@@zeio180zeio150W GaN Prime also has Dynamic Power Distribution
is ankerA2343 safe to use with macbook pros? thank you
Yes. It won't be top speed charging or quite as efficient as the apple supplied adapter.
Can you test rf interference/ mains filtering?
No, I can't do that one. I mean I can throw a power conditioner on a tracking generator and show it filters 200+ kHz noise or something but testing interference is a different game. Conducted emissions would be somewhat easier, exposure I don't have the ability to test though.
Doing gods work 🙏🏽
I don't know if I'd go that far but thank you!
Can you compare Anker with ugreen?
I do that sometimes. Each video is unique in the way it compares adapters, but yeah, trying to compare more things to Anker since they are the more popular brand.
Please simply tell us which is best charger and can charge every device
I wish it was that easy. Unfortunately, many devices went off standard so the port may look the same but the devices aren't compatible. The A2343 is as close a match as any other higher end contender though.
So anker prime 100 is good???? At the end of the day
Yeah, it's one of the best 100W adapters out there.
@@AllThingsOnePlace man I know what to buy than keeps a stable 100 watts I assume.
@@AllThingsOnePlace the problem is a lot of power bank companies are lying about actual capacity and it could mean the difference between life or death! Unacceptable they need to be sued
What 6 port USB A wall mount would you use?
I'm not sure. I've not really done much focus on USB A devices.
It's 25.00 only for the Anker 317, is it worth it? I think it's not built well from what I've read and heard from other reviewers ?
Yeah. It’s not a great adapter. If is cheap though.
It comes with a cable also, but what do you think, are there better options in this much power under 30.00, I'll accept at this point, a unit with two ports rather than one? If you'll help me with this, I'll reward you with deep secrets on portable audio and vacuum cleaners, ie the best for your money in the under 200.00 range:
I was gonna buy 4 until I saw this review now idk 🤷♂️ this is confusing
YEAGH i WOULDN'T GET 4 OF THEM, MAYBE JUST 1 TO TRY IT AND SEE HOW BAD IT IS, I've lost track off the top of my head which one is my backup, I'll see if I can remember where I wrote it down and If I can find it, I'll pass it on, @@smoofwah3552
@@smoofwah3552 I think the general consensus is the Anker A2343 is not bad if it is on sale. It is a bit pricy.
Sorry I know this is old, but looking to get one but ran into reddit saying this charger is not really dynamic in terms of power delivery. I don't know the technical terms but like usb c delivers 65w when 2 ports are being used.
If I understand correctly it's like if one device only requires 20w the other will still get 65w instead of making use of the remaining 80w.
Ean into your channel and subbed.
Commenting early, hope I et some clarity
Yeah, there is usually a step to the power levels. Some chargers will dynamically adjust, the Anker A2343 is not dynamic but it is not bad though, it's really fast at picking the mode so, for example, my laptop doesn't even notice when I plug another device in.
@@AllThingsOnePlace hmm good point,, maybe I'm putting toouch value on the dynamic power. Though the new ones are expensive.. The old ones.. Review said they are legit (online stores are from China).
I can get the old 120w, the old 737, cheaper than the new 100w
Not sure why they removed the dynamic feature
@@Cons2911 I thought Dynamic Power Distribution is included in Power IQ4.0 😅 A2343 A2669 (2023) are not the regular Power IQ4.0?
It's amazing to see how Anker improves over the years - i'm traveling frequently and having a small charger is something I'm willing to pay for. The 100W charger is just amazing to carry around
I just took it on a long plane ride, my only complaint is the airline outlets were so worn out that it didn't want to stay in.
Great! this is really helpful content! Thanks a lot
Another question, do you at "temerature control" performance from each adapter to see safety performance like
- Overheat protection
- Overcurrent and over voltage protection
- Short circuit protection
I don't check over voltage protection on the input side, I'd expect capacitor failures and fuses to blow so it would likely destroy almost every adapter, the point here is checking for safe failure. The more important thing I want to add is leakage current testing. Short circuit gets checked when I overload them so that is in every review. I don't have a good temperature controlled space for longer term temperature testing either, another good future add. Thanks for the suggestions.
Been using an Anger Powerport Speed 2 QCx2... It's not great. Ive had it for 5 years and it's reliable and charges anything but dang.. sooo slow.
On Prime day I got the Mokin 65W 3-port. I know what you think of that 65w bracket but for $16 for a quality GaN charger I wanted to try it out.
So Far, SO Good.. like at least double the speed and it's about half the size. I wish Id have found your channel three days ago tho.. Baseus looked great but I figured they were generic and unsafe.
Yeah, that's real inexpensive for that level of product. Likely the same as many of the others in the category performance wise.
Can't wait for a testing of the Targus 100w PPS GAN charger "PowerElite 100W GaN Wall Charger", it will be wonderful if you reviewed it, looks like it have a huge potential. Pleaseeeee
Thanks for the suggestion, I added it to the list. Everyone's making power adapters now, ha.