Unsafe Power Adapters What exactly makes them unsafe?

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  • Unsafe Power Adapters What exactly makes them unsafe?
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    In this video I am looking at a bunch of power adapters that don’t have safety listings at all and in general are built down to a price first. There are various models and these change on a regular basis.
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  • @ewicky
    @ewicky 2 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    I would love to watch a video from you with advice on identifying adapters' safety listing or lack thereof. I have a drawer full of adapters and would gladly recycle any that are unsafe. But I'm unsure of all the different logos and the basics of spotting obvious fake logos.

    • @AllThingsOnePlace
      @AllThingsOnePlace  2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Yeah, someone else was also commenting on that. I want to do videos on that.

    • @donquixoteupinhere
      @donquixoteupinhere ปีที่แล้ว

      @@AllThingsOnePlace +1 from me :)

  • @NicksStuff
    @NicksStuff 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I would love to watch a more in-depth video including demonstrations. Like the suppression capacitor to reduce EMI (why do shady adapters have these? If they don't care about the safety aspects, why bother with EMI?): you could show its impact by showing harmonics on the scope (?) with and without it

  • @kjracing007
    @kjracing007 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Excellent explanation. Even I have no idea about PCB board, I understood everything and now I am a much wiser buyer. Thank you so much!!

  • @Mike0193Azul
    @Mike0193Azul 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Learn so much from these videos and respect the recommendation to seek out recycling centers rather than most TH-camrs who just say to throw out e-waste and plastics. 💚

    • @AllThingsOnePlace
      @AllThingsOnePlace  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yeah, some companies seem to be doubling down on the packaging. UGREEN, ANKER are making the boxes bigger and adding even more single use plastic to everything they sell. It was very interesting opening the bought in the EU power adapters, legit ones, and the packaging was all paper and cardboard, all easily recyclable.

  • @Nil-js4bf
    @Nil-js4bf ปีที่แล้ว +14

    There's a flood of different "brands" of GaN chargers and for the average consumer, it's impossible to distinguish between them apart from Amazon reviews, which are apparently gamed as well. This channel looks like it provides great material. If only you had the capacity to test more adaptors and spread the word to force companies to improve their products. I heard LTT wanted to start something along these lines (but questionable whether chargers will be a thing they test) and it can't come soon enough.

    • @AllThingsOnePlace
      @AllThingsOnePlace  ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Thanks! By the time I get a new charger in, it seems like there are already 5 more on the market. The LTT thing is 'labs' and partially is what I am doing also, it would be amazing to be considered a competitor of them, ha. I think LTT needs some electrical engineering skill at some point to focus on this type of work. They could also use the rating system (PQS). I know they spent $130k from a recent video on the Chroma brand gear to do this type of power testing so they could do it. I think their focus is more on PC power supplies though. In terms of my capacity, yeah, I work full time so this is certainly a side line (and a costly one at that).

  • @jeffjohnson5352
    @jeffjohnson5352 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very good video and very interesting to see the ways in which these little devices can be unsafe. I was a bit confused by the inclusion of the UGreen adapter in the tables toward the end of the video. Its numbers look good and I think you rated this adapter quite favorably in an earlier video, but you stated that they all were all bad except one, and didn't mention that the UGreen was actually decent.

    • @AllThingsOnePlace
      @AllThingsOnePlace  ปีที่แล้ว

      Ah, yeah, I was trying to show UGREEN as a good example. The 'all but one' was the FONKEN, not counting things already done, that was a bit confusing. The general idea is that when devices don't have a listing corners are cut, is a listing required to make a good adapter, no, but it gives me some comfort that someone at least tried at some point.

  • @targaR32
    @targaR32 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    How would you recommend confirming that a product's safety listing is real? Thanks for another awesome video :)

    • @AllThingsOnePlace
      @AllThingsOnePlace  ปีที่แล้ว +10

      There are databases of safety listed products where people can’t check legitimacy but it isn’t easy. I should make a video going through the process.

  • @bikemmm6167
    @bikemmm6167 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Keep up the great work, thanks. If possible positing twice a week may make this channel more popular.

    • @TheSclare
      @TheSclare 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I agree.

    • @AllThingsOnePlace
      @AllThingsOnePlace  2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Yeah, I tried for a bit, I couldn’t quite get two done a week with work. This video took months to finish (started in December). I also want to improve quality and graphics. As the channel grows I will keep making more efforts though. I write down all the suggestions! I need to do some polls to figure out which thing should be next.

    • @bikemmm6167
      @bikemmm6167 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@AllThingsOnePlace I think a review the apple 140 watt usb c PD 3.1 power adaptor would be great to see next :) All of your content is great. Also is three prog over two prong and advantage in the power adaptor space?

  • @utubemouse
    @utubemouse 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Subscribed. Thank you for the helpful tutorial.

  • @jameshelton8311
    @jameshelton8311 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Thank you for all of the great info that you share! Do you have a video with any tips on how to tell if the safety logo is legit on a charger? I bought a cheap charger that has the CE logo on it, and I'm not sure I trust that it's legit after watching several of your videos.

  • @malk2good
    @malk2good 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    very informative and useful
    are GME power adapters safe?
    not sure if you used or have any but i have one and wondering whether it's good or not
    it has CE and GS listings on it but not sure if they are real or not

    • @AllThingsOnePlace
      @AllThingsOnePlace  15 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      I haven't tested any of those so not sure. You have to check if the CE mark is real or not. The database is a mess but technically it should be in the EU database. But it is still a self certification so value may be limited. The GS listing I'm not sure on.

  • @fedeskate85
    @fedeskate85 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Hi, new subscriber here! I'm looking for a multiport 100W charger for my macbook pro 14 as a backup (mine comes with the 67W charger). In my country we use 220V / 50Hz btw. I saw you gave a good grade to the Baseus one, but looking up in amazon some reviews says that it stopped working after some months, so now I'm in doubt. What would you recommend? I saw the anker 736 too, which gives me more confidence because of the brand but I don't know...

    • @AllThingsOnePlace
      @AllThingsOnePlace  ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Yeah, any charger is going to have a certain failure rate. Baseus is a newer brand so certainly will have some issues. I beat the one up I have pretty bad and I have been using this adapter daily so far no issues on mine but yeah, small sample size. The Anker having stronger brand recognition is one thing but also they've been making power adapters for longer so they have some knowledge on what works and what doesn't. I give out the information, it is up to you to decide. I say don't buy the ones in this video at least (I stuck the 20W UGREEN in here too but it was actually good for the power class). The Anker 736 is middle of the road. It is great if you are charging higher power use devices (laptops). If you are charging a phone it's a waste. I don't see any reason NOT to buy the Anker though.

    • @fedeskate85
      @fedeskate85 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@AllThingsOnePlace Thanks for the reply!

    • @jackbrown107
      @jackbrown107 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Better anker.

  • @sivap1981
    @sivap1981 ปีที่แล้ว

    thanks for great videos , would you mind reviewing Primecables GaN adapters (68W or 100 W) . Thanks again

    • @AllThingsOnePlace
      @AllThingsOnePlace  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for the suggestion, it is on the list, it is a long list.

  • @judal58
    @judal58 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I have the voltme revo 100 and it is the only 100W charger that said it is using GaN III technology, I would like to see it disassembled and analyzed like this

    • @AllThingsOnePlace
      @AllThingsOnePlace  ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I have that one on the list for at least testing. I can do a teardown also.

    • @JasonRasmussen
      @JasonRasmussen 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I just bought one and it is UL certified.

    • @JasonRasmussen
      @JasonRasmussen 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@AllThingsOnePlaceUnless I missed it, I can't find any Voltme reviews or teardown. They seem well built and are UL certified. I'd like to get your take on the Voltme products as they seem to be an up and comer in the realms of other quality name brand chargers.

  • @abhi211-T
    @abhi211-T ปีที่แล้ว

    Bit late to this video (thanks for making it btw!), I was wondering if you have or are planning to review and tear down any Ldnio or tynex chargers. I’m particularly thinking of getting their 65 watt non-gan charger, I wonder if these desktop usb c chargers with shotgun connectors are better quality/less likely to burn your house down than the “travel” type ones in this video due to less size constraints.

    • @AllThingsOnePlace
      @AllThingsOnePlace  ปีที่แล้ว

      It is something to check out. Thanks for the suggestions. Yeah, these were mostly the cheapest options of power adapters also sadly all still available under a constantly shifting brand name soup.

  • @bikemmm6167
    @bikemmm6167 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    What safety ratings are the best and why ? Also it would be nice to see a head to head comparison of the safety ratings of anker, apple, dell, baseus, power adaptors.

    • @AllThingsOnePlace
      @AllThingsOnePlace  2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Mmm. More ideas. I was thinking of a series on what all the organizations, standards companies, certification listings, etc. are and mean. It’s endless essentially but at least what I know I can make a video for and then can always be follow up videos with more from the feedback. Maybe be an option for a mid-week video.

    • @bikemmm6167
      @bikemmm6167 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@AllThingsOnePlace very cool the standards are constantly updating. I have found Dell USB c power adaptors to be very good about listing all their certifications in plain sight.

    • @jalendvenn7990
      @jalendvenn7990 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@AllThingsOnePlace That would be cool! If that's too much you could also do midweek TH-cam shorts? That way its not so much as two full videos a week🤔

    • @judal58
      @judal58 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@AllThingsOnePlace also which protocol is best for

  • @ishinfinity3336
    @ishinfinity3336 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you for your work and explaining so well ^_^

    • @AllThingsOnePlace
      @AllThingsOnePlace  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks. It is a confusing topic and you can’t tell from the outside.

    • @ishinfinity3336
      @ishinfinity3336 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@AllThingsOnePlace slim q tear down? Honestly more interested in the nomad cable test and if the adapters happen to have a different resistance / cause any sort of bottle necking

  • @dukibmw
    @dukibmw หลายเดือนก่อน

    @AllThingsOnePlace Hello, only charger that i can find 100% genuine is Baseus. U did not say much about it so i have a question. Do you recomend it for using it for Pixel 8? It sad in your sheet that is does not have DOE VI... What is the idle power draw? Thank you so much, your work is great!

    • @AllThingsOnePlace
      @AllThingsOnePlace  28 วันที่ผ่านมา

      The Baseus GaN3 desktop adapter does meet the requirement, the wall 100W GaN2 adapter doesn't because of the idle power consumption. It's just over the line.

  • @samis9980
    @samis9980 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hello, I have a question, I have a base model macbook pro 14 and I want to buy an anker 735 powerport iii 65w charger. The problem is, I heard using a third party charger can wear the battery faster. Is that true?? I really want that 3 ports because it's smaller and has more ports, but I'm afraid it'll wear the mac battery faster or even damage it.
    Thanks for the video btw! subbed.

    • @AllThingsOnePlace
      @AllThingsOnePlace  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      There is some truth to batteries degrading with faster charging. Generally, it is more applicable when trying to charge a smaller battery, like a phone, at a rate more familiar to a laptop. A laptop has a higher voltage, typically 3 cells in series, and more sophisticated charge controller so using a higher wattage charger is a very low risk of causing any harm to the laptop. The laptop will only pull what it needs to charge. Many modern phones will also do this.

    • @samis9980
      @samis9980 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@AllThingsOnePlace Thanks for your explanation. Would you recommend anker charger that I mentioned for my macbook? Thanks again.

    • @merjaymermanph
      @merjaymermanph ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Im using an anker gan 65w for my iphone, ipad , and macbook air. Its okey. This Gan technology will only use the enough watts accepted by your device and it wont overcharge or overheat. When im at home, il stick to my original charger, the one thats in the box. I only use the small Anker for travel, or when im out of town, its like an all in one charger as long as you bring the right cord, specified for your device

    • @samis9980
      @samis9980 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@merjaymermanph Got it. Thanks!

    • @merjaymermanph
      @merjaymermanph ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@samis9980 welcome

  • @whophd
    @whophd 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Hi I’m a new subscriber to your channel! I’d like a video about leakage current - I first noticed it in 2015 when I got my first USB-C powered laptop and touched it. But since then I’ve noticed it on smartphones including via Lightning - even when my partner is sitting on her phone, on her side of the couch, and I’m not touching anything. This all feels new, since 2015! How can it be “fine”??

    • @AllThingsOnePlace
      @AllThingsOnePlace  22 วันที่ผ่านมา

      haha, yeah, I tested some of the ones in this video for leakage, they're bad. I have been testing the leakage for anything newer but yeah the US limits are established around a safety limitation, so is it going to stop your heart, no, deal with it... The EU limit is a bit more in line with human reaction to things, but again the focus is safety not comfort.

  • @dannythemedic
    @dannythemedic ปีที่แล้ว +3

    is there a database?????

    • @AllThingsOnePlace
      @AllThingsOnePlace  ปีที่แล้ว +4

      There is a database. Fairly sparse at the moment but eventually the goal is to have it list everything that plugs in the wall.

    • @jean-francoisgagne6332
      @jean-francoisgagne6332 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@AllThingsOnePlace Where can we see it ?

    • @AllThingsOnePlace
      @AllThingsOnePlace  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@jean-francoisgagne6332 pqs.app/

  • @ewicky
    @ewicky 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What's going on with your MacGyver calipers?

    • @AllThingsOnePlace
      @AllThingsOnePlace  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Haha. That’s totally going to be a video… actually already have the video, script just needs some final assembly. Basically, it’s a battery charger, calipers were always out of battery. I need to make a PCB for it instead of using the dead bug wiring technique but that’s a project for another day.

  • @mikek5206
    @mikek5206 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Lmao as a fellow nerd, your calipers are hilarious. Subscribed.

    • @AllThingsOnePlace
      @AllThingsOnePlace  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      haha, yes. I still need to get that video out.

  • @judal58
    @judal58 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    👍👍👍👍👍👍 nice work man, keep going

  • @loughrey101
    @loughrey101 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Would be good to make a video of the safest chargers on the market

  • @rubynaeem1868
    @rubynaeem1868 ปีที่แล้ว

    review wotobe chargers please

    • @AllThingsOnePlace
      @AllThingsOnePlace  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I have, wotobeus is the US branding of these chargers.

  • @HM-vo1jf
    @HM-vo1jf ปีที่แล้ว

    You're brilliant.

    • @AllThingsOnePlace
      @AllThingsOnePlace  ปีที่แล้ว

      Haha, I don't know about that, I'm making youtube videos for fun though.

  • @shamalsham
    @shamalsham ปีที่แล้ว

    Promate powercube pd80 charge station.

  • @shadowpapito
    @shadowpapito ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Good Job

    • @AllThingsOnePlace
      @AllThingsOnePlace  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I could make this video 10 times and not run out of adapters that are not well made.

    • @joel3683
      @joel3683 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@AllThingsOnePlace Jesus! LMAO that's kinda scary

  • @dannythemedic
    @dannythemedic ปีที่แล้ว +1

    hmm.. these videos are LPL ish! good!

    • @AllThingsOnePlace
      @AllThingsOnePlace  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I am not sure what LPL standards for but hopefully it's good!

    • @dannythemedic
      @dannythemedic ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@AllThingsOnePlace oh its very good... check out the channel lockpickinglawyer

  • @merjaymermanph
    @merjaymermanph ปีที่แล้ว

    I just only trust both the Apple original charger or the Anker Gan chargers 😅

    • @AllThingsOnePlace
      @AllThingsOnePlace  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Not a bad choice.

    • @loughrey101
      @loughrey101 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Belkin is another big and safe charger brand

  • @visionofwellboyofficial
    @visionofwellboyofficial 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Wow he did better than Diodegonewild

    • @AllThingsOnePlace
      @AllThingsOnePlace  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      That's a tough channel to match, diode gone wild is awesome.

    • @visionofwellboyofficial
      @visionofwellboyofficial 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@AllThingsOnePlace I always watch his content, we should too!

  • @amateurwizard
    @amateurwizard ปีที่แล้ว

    I know it's sort of cringe but I think it would pull more people into the channel. Could you do a brief 'Tier List' of a bunch of these.
    Personally I like the long form content but it's just a thought.

    • @AllThingsOnePlace
      @AllThingsOnePlace  ปีที่แล้ว

      I don't understand. I am assuming not a top 10 kind of thing, I did two of those, they continue to perform better than other content.

  • @stellarproductions8888
    @stellarproductions8888 ปีที่แล้ว

    When I smell smoke, there's fire, and if you use any of these charge adapters, your house could end up crispyfried. Unsafe is right, one should only buy charge adapters, where you see lots of certifications on them. Plus, one can do their due diligence, and cross reference them, to double check if they indeed earned those ratings, or if the Chinese knock off's, decided to just stamp those labels on to sell a product, cause their dishonest as frickle frackle.

    • @AllThingsOnePlace
      @AllThingsOnePlace  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yeah, the dangerous part is these are often the adapters that are available if you need something quick. Last minute forgot your adapter, the service station probably sells some cheap power adapter like this to get you charged up. I also have a few of these that were trade show giveaways and bad news, ha.

  • @MeanderingMax
    @MeanderingMax ปีที่แล้ว

    It really sucks people waste time and materials making these safety hazards :(

    • @AllThingsOnePlace
      @AllThingsOnePlace  ปีที่แล้ว

      They're among the best sellers on amazon.

    • @MeanderingMax
      @MeanderingMax ปีที่แล้ว

      @@AllThingsOnePlace Yeah, sales are good when companies selling them (like Amazon) don't care about anything but getting their $ :(

  • @Stainless316L
    @Stainless316L ปีที่แล้ว

    Somebody sadly been killed on the news today. Cheep Chinese usb charger to blame

    • @AllThingsOnePlace
      @AllThingsOnePlace  ปีที่แล้ว

      That is scary. Unfortunately, these devices are some of the best sellers too.

  • @asakayosapro
    @asakayosapro 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    All these ‘bad’ adapters…
    One wonders if one can simply get the components out and repurpose them in some other device or circuitry, with the exception of offbrand electrolytic capacitors because apparently capacitor plague is still a thing in 2023…
    There’s also mosfets to consider.
    Just because a circuit is ‘designed badly’ doesn’t necessarily mean the individual components themselves are completely unusable.

    • @AllThingsOnePlace
      @AllThingsOnePlace  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yeah, the control chips and protocol chips would be prime parts to take out of these cheap adapters if they have them. They are hard to get for hobbyists.

  • @VOLTRONDEFENDER4440
    @VOLTRONDEFENDER4440 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    To be safe get a adapter from a reputable brand like Apple, Samsung, Lenovo, hp,IKEA, and Nintendo as they are legitimate

    • @AllThingsOnePlace
      @AllThingsOnePlace  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks! Ikea just had a recall for unsafe adapters, but at least they owned it.

  • @joeking433
    @joeking433 ปีที่แล้ว

    The Chinese just don't give a F. It's been a disaster having them be the world's factory!

    • @AllThingsOnePlace
      @AllThingsOnePlace  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah. I mean I picked lots of bad ones for this video too. Fact that some are best sellers…