Steel Shackles VS Soft Shackles

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  • Steel Shackles VS Soft Shackles
    FYI you can't use the 'Winch ring' with steel cable, its only meant for soft rope.
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  • @dune_tech
    @dune_tech 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    This video should be on top of every 4wd driver`s list. It has saved my life just a day ago. Beacuase I watch this video, the correct shackle placement was used. So when the recovery rope broke, only the rope and soft shackle smashed the windscreen in front of my head. I wont be typing now, if it was a steel shackle. Guys, always use rated recovery point and correct shackle placement. A rope damper is also a must!

  • @Spyyyder1
    @Spyyyder1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +378

    Hot Tip : soft shackles are also used in some marine applications -> go to your local boat shop , they'll have soft shackles even for very high tonnage ( compared to a car ) for a fraction of the price of those sold by 4x4 companies

    • @jasonfoo8651
      @jasonfoo8651 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Thanks Toast4242!

    • @norsefalconer
      @norsefalconer 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Shhhhh! Hahaha.

    • @TheLifeInMotion
      @TheLifeInMotion 4 ปีที่แล้ว +81

      The only time "marine" anything is the cheaper alternative...

    • @Chemtech2010
      @Chemtech2010 4 ปีที่แล้ว +34

      @@TheLifeInMotion Recently found out that marine 12v stuff is comparitively cheap. Water/dust proof as well. Most boats use 12v dual battery systems.

    • @jamesespey3030
      @jamesespey3030 4 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      Soft shackles are easy to yourself. A lot cheaper and once you get at making them you can splice and dogbone in. Way faster

  • @Rollermanfromspace
    @Rollermanfromspace 4 ปีที่แล้ว +91

    Steel Shackles: Great for recovery points on the vehicle
    Soft Shackles: Great for everything else

    • @rickhardoliver2465
      @rickhardoliver2465 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Wish I saw this 15min ago.

    • @insidejob8309
      @insidejob8309 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Steel Shackles: Great for killing, they turn into a missile. Id use soft for everything, ive seen those steel ones take off like a bullet.

    • @dundonrl
      @dundonrl ปีที่แล้ว

      Except in heavy duty use, then steel every day! (no, not talking about vehicle recovery, unless you're recovering a 100+ ton mining truck)!

    • @insidejob8309
      @insidejob8309 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@dundonrl They don't recover those 100 ton trucks. They burry them let them de-solve then re mine them send the metals to Ford to make a new one.

  • @vernonbennettiii3646
    @vernonbennettiii3646 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Excellent analysis! You recommended exactly what I currently use after many, many years of my own trial and error! Ronny, "You Da Man!"

  • @vicb8975
    @vicb8975 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome gear video. I’ve been wheeling for 40 years and I found your video interesting and informative. Thank you.

  • @mountie816
    @mountie816 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wow. Thank you so much for this video. I'm an old time offroader. I don't get out as often as I used to but I still like to be fully prepared. Aside from the great info you provided in this video I learned about the Winch Ring. As a result I just ordered an Overland one. I am switching to synthetic on my winch so I think this is a must have as well as soft shackles.

  • @williambennett6526
    @williambennett6526 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks Ronni. No question my number one source of practical 4WD info. Fantastic stuff.

  • @streakychambers658
    @streakychambers658 4 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    Good video as usual. FYI soft shackles have been used in the sail rigging industry since the invention of plasma rope nearly 15 years ago... the Swedish company Liros used the Monkey Fist knot to make them and the OffRoad community took advantage of it.

  • @neilocoop
    @neilocoop 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Excellent once again. These topics are great simple and concise and no grandstanding brands.

  • @nickjennings8317
    @nickjennings8317 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    At last Ronny, a full and frank assessment in an unbiased fashion. The only thing
    I would add is that with the traditional snatch block, when a failure occurs the load can be set free. With the pulley ring where the soft shackle goes through the ring, if the ring fails the load is still attached. Thank you. Regards Non Stick Nick.

  • @rickd8979
    @rickd8979 4 ปีที่แล้ว +58

    Congratulations on hitting 300k. Been following for a while. Production quality has always been on the increase. Keep it up Ronny 🍻

  • @marksomerville1275
    @marksomerville1275 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    One of your best 'how to' vids...thanks.

  • @rtarrant1
    @rtarrant1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    For someone like me, new to recovery gear, this was super helpful. Thanks.

  • @noehctuccmliw
    @noehctuccmliw 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Ronny you are spot on about the soft shackles etc. Nice way to really lighten the load and be safer and more effective at the same time.
    I carry a Pintle hitch with 2" receiver with adaptor for the receiver as to be able to fit it onto other's hitches in a pinch.
    Rope, cable, chain, or soft shackle friendly, tough, looks cool, doesn't rattle much, all weather friendly, not greasy like a typical ball hitch (90 times more secure), makes a great step and/or kayak tie down point. Fantastic if your ride has limited tow points. Not expensive.
    My dad chucked one on the back of my old Suzuki SJ410 when I was 16. I'm 52 now and that same pintle has followed along behind on a couple old Ford Broncos, Zukes, & Jeep XJs I've owned. Most of my life has been off road in British Columbia.
    "Works for me!" 👍

  • @r.a.wskillsadventuresandbu5571
    @r.a.wskillsadventuresandbu5571 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Loving these soft shackles, I was a recovery mechanic in the British army and all we used were steel shackles. We used to back them off half a turn for pulling applications to stop them from binding up. Even with that, when sand and dirt gets in there they were still tough to undo. I m just getting into the civilian side of things so loving the videos.

  • @ignacioentrocasso8171
    @ignacioentrocasso8171 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks Ronny!!! Enjoy your weekend. Hope you and your family are doing Ok!

  • @TheRealPOTUSDavidByrd
    @TheRealPOTUSDavidByrd 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Excellent video as always.
    Regarding factory recovery points with rounded edges - the front recovery points for Ford Super Duty trucks have been round since '99. They're just the bow part of a bow shackle bolted through to the frame and they're very strong. You can hang the entire truck off of them if you want to.

  • @williamjones1590
    @williamjones1590 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thanks Ronny that was super helpful. Keep up the great work we appreciate your dedication

  • @SuperMegaWoofer3000
    @SuperMegaWoofer3000 ปีที่แล้ว

    You’re a bloody legend mate, thanks for all your informative videos.

  • @sentencj4x4
    @sentencj4x4 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very good presentation Ronny. I learned a lot. Thank you for putting this together.

  • @darrenturner8035
    @darrenturner8035 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Well explained in no nonsense detail,good job Ronny.👍

  • @adamjones2025
    @adamjones2025 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Ronny Dahl, Another great video mate, Keep them coming your right on the money.

  • @seanchristie7150
    @seanchristie7150 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Awesome vid as usual Ronny, great unbiased info as usual. Can't wait for the next gear torque video

  • @mammeltoes83
    @mammeltoes83 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great information. Thanks for helping me make better decisions for recoveries

  • @genisis53
    @genisis53 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    production has gotten a lot more sophistcated since the last time I watched one of your videos Ronnie! Nice job!

  • @gregsmith7537
    @gregsmith7537 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Excellent presentation of an important topic! Thanks mate!

  • @MartinsGarage97
    @MartinsGarage97 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Super dutys have a nice round front recovery points. So soft shackle for the front and a hitch with a steel shackle for the rear. You have have basically taught me how to do 4x4 recovery safely and 4 wheel drive etiquette. I've been trying to go to shops but they just try to sell me things. So these videos really help me out

  • @1582len
    @1582len 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video. I recently got 2 soft shackles, and second guessed myself. But now I see I made the right choice for what I’ll be using them for. Stay healthy and well.

  • @hobiechhina
    @hobiechhina 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    As always, a ton of useful information Ronnie. Thanks mate!

  • @thedelmardave
    @thedelmardave 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great post. Never heard of the winch ring till now... looking into it. Great advice on soft shackles too.

  • @richlittlewood516
    @richlittlewood516 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent and sound advice, thx Ronny, best use I find for the soft shackle is to add the tow strap to my winch line to get another 30’ length or more. Keep up the great work

  • @swagitupadventures3259
    @swagitupadventures3259 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Good video mate there is not enough of these vids out there.. great tips for newbies and for experienced 4 wheelers 👌

  • @SeanMurphy00
    @SeanMurphy00 3 ปีที่แล้ว +39

    You kids have it so easy today with your soft shackles and safe spaces. When I was growing up we played dodgeball with hard shackles and if we got hit by one we didn’t run and cry, we hit it back.

    • @JimBob-vb8oz
      @JimBob-vb8oz 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Sure you did Chuck Norris

    • @1strights
      @1strights 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Sure Jan.

  • @carbonseals
    @carbonseals 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thanks for the tips Ronny

  • @douglaspalmeri3067
    @douglaspalmeri3067 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Ronny - thanks so much - so helpful ! Clear and detailed explanations !

  • @markholtan5696
    @markholtan5696 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Been trying to figure out what I needed as recovery items and this help very much, great video 👍👍👍

  • @pheonix1758
    @pheonix1758 ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome explanation and demonstration as well as the pro’s and cons 👍👍

  • @josepharcher9281
    @josepharcher9281 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video topic! Tech and gear info is always handy regardless of experience level. keep similar topics coming

  • @waynebull8177
    @waynebull8177 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks mate just new to 4wd, did some at work but I wasn’t buying the gear. Very helpful video

  • @jimlee5626
    @jimlee5626 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow! I'm so glad I found this. Super informative. 👌

  • @Malc664
    @Malc664 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I think you nailed it on your choice. And of course these videos are great.

  • @sibhs66
    @sibhs66 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great information there Ronnie, well done.

  • @davidwayne9982
    @davidwayne9982 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I was a tow truck driver in LA- did a LOT of recovery work-- and out in the deserts of California.. as well as country mountains.. but never used soft shackles etc.. just standard tow truck gear. INTERESTING.. thank you again for EXCELLENT information... I've learned a LOT from you..
    YOu have made one old mountain moron a LOT safer now.. ha.

  • @Gee-Wizz
    @Gee-Wizz 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great explanation, thats it. Great vid, thanks Ronny.

  • @Livelifecairns
    @Livelifecairns 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great stuff Ronny!

  • @stephengreen737
    @stephengreen737 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thanks Ronny, very informative, I have steel bow shackles, but have been looking at the soft shackles for a while, looks like I will be getting some. Cheers :)

  • @thetjwsfafscoot
    @thetjwsfafscoot 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Congrats on 300K, great video also.

  • @observer2583
    @observer2583 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great presentation ! Thanks much for all of this useful information.

  • @anthonycoleman1909
    @anthonycoleman1909 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great advice. Love these type videos.

  • @gilmeacham8109
    @gilmeacham8109 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good Job, Ronny. Thanks for sharing.

  • @swidahooverlanding2867
    @swidahooverlanding2867 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Some good points for both. Thanks for the information. George.

  • @davidholdren8315
    @davidholdren8315 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That answers all my questions. Thanks

  • @dillydoopsta6090
    @dillydoopsta6090 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Good stuff as always. Well done

  • @Lordoftheflatbush
    @Lordoftheflatbush 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent video Rony!!

  • @valdius85
    @valdius85 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video. I like that format.
    As someone who drives a Honda N-box, I for sure spend too much time on this channel ;)

  • @marita486
    @marita486 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thanks Ronny I'm new to this 4x4 stuff this is helpful

  • @RexOffroad
    @RexOffroad 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Spent the whole video worried you were gonna scratch the table... haha. Keep up the good work Ronny

  • @cliffcross6487
    @cliffcross6487 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very good presentation. Thank you

  • @eduardoaverbuj1168
    @eduardoaverbuj1168 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video,! Practical and to the point. Thanks

  • @leonardbevitt7830
    @leonardbevitt7830 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Mad video mate.. awesome to learn new tricks .. thanks buddy

  • @johnfitzgerald5158
    @johnfitzgerald5158 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have a 2.5" Factor 55 in the hitch receiver and 6.5 Ton steel shackles on board. Planning on adding a Factor 55 hook to the winch up front. I think I will add some soft shackles in the mix after watching this, mainly for the potential to need to join straps. Other than that it's steel shackles for me. Some good points here Ronny.

  • @LoneGalloperOverland
    @LoneGalloperOverland 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Always delivering good info mate, the community thanks you for that 🙏

  • @keoniantolin5435
    @keoniantolin5435 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks Ronnie, very informative!!!

  • @MarkPdot
    @MarkPdot 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm just happy to finally have my pintle hook hitch at the ready for when I pull people out of the ditch this coming winter. The only thing I have to worry about is if THEY have somewhere to hook onto. Bring it winter! By the way, I'm in Alaska so I know I'll be using my gear. Great video as always, thanks.

  • @hfk1001
    @hfk1001 ปีที่แล้ว

    Fantastic video. Thank you very much.

  • @danl4219
    @danl4219 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Really Great info! Thanks for sharing!

  • @pjplay7523
    @pjplay7523 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great info. I watched this after buying all my shackles.......lucky I got it about right :))

  • @VentureOffroadAustralia4x4
    @VentureOffroadAustralia4x4 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Great video with some really good points. I suppose an advantage of the soft shackle been rated less than the steel shackle is if you're using them together, say on a front recovery point, the soft shackle should break first decreasing the risk to people involved in the recovery. Thanks Ronny.

  • @EFFICIENTSELF
    @EFFICIENTSELF 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great info Ronny and very well explained cheers 👍🍻

  • @inferno1770
    @inferno1770 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video helped me make a better decision on recovery gear .

  • @adrianbarden2481
    @adrianbarden2481 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Hi Ronny, love the video. One quick, point, according to the ARB manufacuturer instructions, the bow shackle should be the other way around on the recovery points. The curved part should be fed through the recovery point, and the pin should have the straps. This keeps the straps nicely positioned and allows the bow shackle to pivot safely in case the vehicle shifts off line.

    • @JamesZJi
      @JamesZJi 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      don't think so. avoid soft sling on pin whenever you can.

  • @993ti
    @993ti 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Useful information and i also like the new editing :)

  • @charlesvella2431
    @charlesvella2431 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very informative love your your work

  • @FERNANDOOYARZUN
    @FERNANDOOYARZUN 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent explanation, cheers!

  • @tims728
    @tims728 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    There's a young bloke who did some excellent video from Seek Adventure on TH-cam on making soft shackles and repairing Dyneema. Worth a look too. Drifta are getting into soft shackles and attachments too. Cheers Ronnie, your vid on recovery failures was noteworthy too.

    • @wanderlust332
      @wanderlust332 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      It's a shame he doesn't make videos any more.

    • @mickmay6569
      @mickmay6569 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      He is better then some of these new ones ...show you stuff all trying to get ya one patreon and talk to much with there faces in most of the video. We just want your money bleeds out of there videos

    • @krump7429
      @krump7429 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      That seek adventure guy was great. Ronny should chase him down to do a collab kinda video even tho ol mate doesnt tube anymore. The good thing about him compared to other channels, is he is not a brand whore. Most these youtubers now a days, are for ever sucking up to companies just to get free stuff..... case in point that flog with the silver triton from WA. Spends more time doing product testing videos than he does camping and 4wd trips 😂😂

  • @BobsOutdoorActivities
    @BobsOutdoorActivities 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you. Very good educational for shackles!

  • @adamrosetattoo
    @adamrosetattoo ปีที่แล้ว

    exactly what I was looking for thanks!

  • @jamesgreenbaum5729
    @jamesgreenbaum5729 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Incredibly informative. Well spoken for DownUnder! Thanks Mate. Rhino Ranch, MT USA

  • @neilqsmith5748
    @neilqsmith5748 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great informative video - Thanks !!!

  • @ricdonato4328
    @ricdonato4328 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent! Never heard about soft shackles. Soon they will be in my kit.

  • @LindenRanch
    @LindenRanch 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome information. Thanks

  • @aeromech8563
    @aeromech8563 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome valid points mate, and I'm in total agreement with you these days its so easy to carry too much of the wrong kit!!! less is more and soft kit now rules however there is still a time and place for old skool kit.

  • @antonreyment8945
    @antonreyment8945 ปีที่แล้ว

    I hope you’re on the track when I get stuck Ronny, but this video is the next best thing. 🙏🏽

  • @rgestrella5078
    @rgestrella5078 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Awesome work, super informative. :)

  • @dmac9777
    @dmac9777 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Had 'everyfing' I need to know. Cheers Ronny

  • @bkdexter79
    @bkdexter79 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video! Love you Aussies!

  • @dyang1982
    @dyang1982 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for all the great info

  • @JKoverland
    @JKoverland 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great info Ronny, thanks 😃👍

  • @AngryTurds
    @AngryTurds 4 ปีที่แล้ว +119

    I kinda miss "seek adventure ". Great info though, thanks Ronnie.

    • @mickmay6569
      @mickmay6569 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Yer the bustard me too...he had the goods..

    • @adamjones2025
      @adamjones2025 4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Seek adventure was good. But Ronny is good to watch less bs than another 4wd channel

    • @heftymerv
      @heftymerv 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I was only just thinking this myself as soon as I saw the topic....

    • @utahjohnnymontana3373
      @utahjohnnymontana3373 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      His vid on the topic was really good, too. Much the same conclusions as well.

    • @donewhiskey
      @donewhiskey 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      I really miss that show, but I get it. What I don't get is why he removed the store. I still want a shirt.

  • @Rawusa
    @Rawusa 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow what a wealth of information,thank you I will be upgrading 👍✅

  • @agoogleuser3942
    @agoogleuser3942 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good on you Ronny. Nice to catch up with technology. Yes the absolutely right, steel recovery weighed me down a lot.

  • @patrickperkin7556
    @patrickperkin7556 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    always enjoy your videos very informative, we find a combination of bows and softs work here in New Zealand, thank you.

  • @truesimplicity
    @truesimplicity ปีที่แล้ว

    Very Helpful... From an appreciative American 👍🏻

  • @damosugden7264
    @damosugden7264 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video as always

  • @gurupurkha
    @gurupurkha 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you so much for this information.

  • @freaksport
    @freaksport 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Nice video. I use soft shackles for slacklines and have build them myself. The different kinds of knots for soft shackles are actually quite interesting. Some result in 228% the breaking strength of one single Amsteel/Dyneema rope.

  • @vernonbennettiii3646
    @vernonbennettiii3646 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Also, if you travel in sub-freezing conditions, the Bow Shackle already installed beats the heck out of having to chisel a hole though frozen mud stuck inside the hole where a soft shackle is supposed to fit. I have lived "that dream" when I forgot to put my bow shackle on my rear hitch and broke through ice down into a mud hole in below freezing weather on a hunting trip in northern Michigan.

  • @spetrakis
    @spetrakis 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great info mate, thanks!

  • @the510wagon
    @the510wagon 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great vid. I learned lots 👍🏻

  • @pabloanastasio3358
    @pabloanastasio3358 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for the tips. Greetings from Argentina