@@SpeedyBozar Did you watch the video? I know it's long, but in one of the games (I think it was Maru vs. Soo 2) one of the players was getting owned in one front in a two-front attack. They were unable to defend both attacks, and basically Tasteless randomly said it was "Timmy two screens" making him lose. It's in one of the later matchups.
Can soo's coach tell him to build more hatches late game? throwing 1 game and almost another in his BO3 because he has 10k++ bank and no larva. It was just 10 minutes straight of 140/200 and not being able to spend his money. Gold league stuff...
Yeah Soo's play was honestly quite bad in a number of ways terrible larva management as mentioned, his game sense was awful made him play ultra passive in situations he had no reason to do so which led to letting his opponents get back into a couple games at least, and he refused to tech up in situations where he was miles ahead but couldn't finish the game because he was just staying on Roach/Ravager the entire time. That game 2 against Maru I wanted to pull my hair out it was so frustrating how he was playing that game out smh.
Do all the top-tier Zergs still have their Queens Inject their Hatcheries in the late-game, or do they just have enough Hatcheries to provide sufficient Larvae without needing to do that?
I was surprised Maru was able to almost win in his last game vs Cure after finding his army trapped behind his own rock. Seems like there was definitely a point where he could have backed off (e.g. not siege his 1 tank near the middle of the map) in order to hold the counter push and build up a critical mass. Maru's 2nd game vs soO was pretty crazy. It's been a while since I've seen a Terran play from such a dead position vs a roach timing and almost go all the way. One of the most memorable ones to me is MVP vs Tefel (Game 1 Group A Ro.32 WCS European Premier League).
@@charlessoong3435 Maru is going to have a much harder time with the time Oliveria beat him since he was definitely the favorite to win that. Serral has 0-4'ed him before.
I always root for zerg, but SoO really have lost my love. Maybe it's just the fact that he feels a bit uncomfortable playing at the highest level right now after being gone, but his playstyle is so.. strained. There is no doubt he is an amazing player, incredibly strong. But there really is something lacking in his play when you compare him to the other zergs out there right now. It feels like he is just trying to brute force his way to winning, and sometimes it works. He is an excellent player, no doubt. Maybe this is just a sign that the current zerg players all have very distinct and uniquely creative playstyles right now, or maybe soO is just struggling to get back into form. It's hard to say.
Soo has been and will always be the Lair Tech King. I remember him back in the HotS days he would play muta ling bane for ever and never transition into hive tech
@@scottbruce7423 He definitely needs some coaching on how to get out of that rut and expand his play style. He's definitely an elite player, but as the casters pointed out, he doesn't seem to know what to do in the late game, and his ability with spellcasters has always been terrible. I think him coming back made it even worse. He actually performed much better in the previous round. Then again, I don't think he had to go to the late game then.... Regardless, if he's going to win another tournament, he needs to get more well rounded.
@@kommisar. is it really a rut when that's how they've defined their entire career? At this point, it's just the style he likes to play, I think. And it's not like he hasn't had success doing it. He got to the round of 8, beat Byun, got demolished early game by Maru 3 times and won the single game he didn't fall way behind.
@@scottbruce7423 Yes, it's a rut when you're continually not making it past a certain bracket or hitting a wall at a certain point of the game. He's a great player and has a had a lot of success in the game, more than most people could dream of, but if he wants to make it farther, win another major tournament even, he needs to fix this part of his game. Obviously his mid-game Roach play works to a good extent, but he needs a way to transition out of it when it isn't. It worked on Byun and it didn't work on Cure or Maru. Does that mean he doesn't have to improve anything?
LOL first TvT commentator loves the army split vs a smaller army and thats what leads to him losing because your overwhelming army is now two beatable little chunks.
OMG I must say I was completely wrong guess game 2 results for Maru vs Cure. LOL I fast forwarded thinking one side already won, then realized I was wrong in my assumption and rewatched.
What's up with Soo and misscalculating how many biles he needs per tank ? I was loosing my mind watching several tanks firing for an extra 10+seconds in almost every single game.
All the Serral fanboys are crying with the GOAT talk. The issue is Serral ducked his invitation to the GSL in 2018 and 2019 he only accepted a ST once. He had his chance to end the debate by atleast participating in a full season. Because of this he will never be the GOAT, just the best non korean in SC2.
Damn, so many great games in here, amazing! Also, great casting ofc as usual. Tiny thing, but I get the impression that State sometimes tries to one-up or correct Tasteless, there are sort of debates going on that didnt happen with Tastosis. That's not needed, TasteGOD knows what he is talking about, just let him make his point!
soo is like so godawful at late game, does his coaches doesnt tell his obvious problem? he literally groups all his stuff in to 1 big army instead of like most pros and have 1 main army on left and smaller army on right to defend. any decent player will just pull him apart non stop while he draw his big army cross the map non stop
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I hear some bs, Serral comes from a rich family. If he trully wanted to prove the goat for good he would have the balls for a season in the GSL. The reality is he ducked his invitation in 2020, yet serral fanboy fail to acknoweldge this. Serral is the best non Korean in the world thats all you can say.@ProtossOP
@@themightyredemption I'm not a Serral fanboy nor do I actively follow SC2 scene for like a year or two. But I fail to see how staying for a season of a tier 2 tournament(yes I think that GSL is a tier 2 tournament these days) is having balls. GSL for a non-korean is a huge time and money sink that's not worth prize money nor title. Quick note: if winning 4-0 in the recent ESL finals against 7 times back-to-back GSL champion doesn't prove anything I don't know what will.
Serral ducked out of his invitation in 2018 and 2019 yet Serral fanboys act like he hasnt had a chance for a GSL season. He simply doesn't have the balls. He is the best non korean ever for sure, but a reality check is needed. @@kommisar.
Another late game zerg loss against an elite terran where they go brood lords and/or ultras. T3 zerg is garbage in the current meta. Doesn't stop Serral, though, lol.
Wrong. Roaches are garbage in the current meta. Ling bane is really strong since the widow mine nerf. Every terran is going tanks. Soo was in too bad of a spot from playing roaches for too long.
@@ghosthamster6521 He had a fair amount of success on the Roach comp. The problem is when he ran up against a wall he didn't transition out of them for a long time, and furthermore, more importantly actually, his late-game game is not good. He has always avoided spellcasters and it shows, and Zerg NEEDS good spellcaster use in the late game.
omg please stop pretending the GOAT conversation is still a conversation; IT IS NOT! Serral has literally done better than Maru overall! More tourney won more money won than Maru even tho he started YEARS LATER than Maru! And here's the biggest one; almost EVERY TIME they face each other SERRAL SHREKS MARU! not even close! Serral = Goat... Maru doesnt even come up in the conversation imo!
Serral ducked out of an invitation to GSL in both 2018 and 2019. I have more respect for foreigners that actually tried atleast a season. He will never be considered the GOAT because of this.
@@TheVanillatech It was a bit depressing, so I didn't read in details. But she did say she did the job for like 9 years already. Maybe she thinks it's time to move on to something else...
@@redwing999 Explains why she never returned any of my calls. Or texts. Or letters. And why she constantly called the police every time I sat outside her house for hours...
@@theGoldyMan 10k banks vs byun with no eco - terran still wins LMFAO. yeah bud its just Maru. Its not the broken race with 98374587374568764378 ways to win vs the 2 zerg has and the 0 protoss have (cant whine bout OP toss when no GSL winner for toss since 2017). Lmao. imagine being blind to basically approved cheat codes. Sad that it takes Byun completely messing up to the point Tasteless and State both sound completely flabbergasted again shows how broken terran is
@@komagiri8624 Beast Titan is super smart, cure is also super smart, He won a GSL on build orders alone, It was an amazing sight to watch, I highly recommend. He always has the potential to take down Maru due to his intelligence.
@@xilunjiang317 Maru is the ultimate offensive weapon with no depths to his abilities, the epitome of a good defense is a great offense, Cure is hyper intelligent and capable of outsmarting anyone playing the game. Byun is armored titan due to his devil may care playstyle absorbing blows and dealing back in greater kind.
what ya know Maru with 50 cent Goku SJJ 847587374 Kaio-Ken x 10 Blue Ultra instinct (AKA marines) beat units thats cost 58734x the price for half the power?
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GSL is back! Today is a good day.
A good day for a bunch of TvTs. lol
@@Konranjyoutai How'd you figure that? This group had three TvZs and only two TvTs.
@@starcraftviewer There were 4 players and 3 were Terran and 1 was Zerg.
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tasteless with the timmy two screens is too damn funny
i dont get it, explain
@@SpeedyBozar Did you watch the video? I know it's long, but in one of the games (I think it was Maru vs. Soo 2) one of the players was getting owned in one front in a two-front attack. They were unable to defend both attacks, and basically Tasteless randomly said it was "Timmy two screens" making him lose. It's in one of the later matchups.
@@SpeedyBozar 4:29:40
@@kommisar. I also don't understand the joke despite having watched the part. I think SpeedyBozar and me don't get the reference.
@@kommisar. That doesn't explain anything. Yes, he said that, but what is it referencing? Who's Timmy? Or it's just simply a silly saying.
Hell yeah, it's GSL Thursday.
YEAH BUDDY
Can soo's coach tell him to build more hatches late game? throwing 1 game and almost another in his BO3 because he has 10k++ bank and no larva. It was just 10 minutes straight of 140/200 and not being able to spend his money. Gold league stuff...
Yeah Soo's play was honestly quite bad in a number of ways terrible larva management as mentioned, his game sense was awful made him play ultra passive in situations he had no reason to do so which led to letting his opponents get back into a couple games at least, and he refused to tech up in situations where he was miles ahead but couldn't finish the game because he was just staying on Roach/Ravager the entire time. That game 2 against Maru I wanted to pull my hair out it was so frustrating how he was playing that game out smh.
Do all the top-tier Zergs still have their Queens Inject their Hatcheries in the late-game, or do they just have enough Hatcheries to provide sufficient Larvae without needing to do that?
It's Old Timmy Two Screens
Made me laugh out loud
I know! Definitely a "WTF" comment from Tasteless!
I was surprised Maru was able to almost win in his last game vs Cure after finding his army trapped behind his own rock. Seems like there was definitely a point where he could have backed off (e.g. not siege his 1 tank near the middle of the map) in order to hold the counter push and build up a critical mass.
Maru's 2nd game vs soO was pretty crazy. It's been a while since I've seen a Terran play from such a dead position vs a roach timing and almost go all the way. One of the most memorable ones to me is MVP vs Tefel (Game 1 Group A Ro.32 WCS European Premier League).
"Ive never seen Rogue macro marines like that tasteless" had me fricking rollingg 😂
Insane play, feel bad for soO but other games were great.
Holyyyy... Maru vs Cure.
A day with GSL is a good day
SoO looking better and better... also Rogue starting his warm-up back to the GSL
maru been knocking soo out of GSL for like a decade straight at this point
Soo's like: "Damn you, you're always my Archilles' heel for GSL!"
Maru's like: "Na, I just rumble rumble whatever..."
LETS GET READY TO RUMBLE, RUMBLE
You looking for trouble?
Tassels and his gift for gab lol. Ole, Timmy Two-Screens.
Soo is playing 50 shades of Roach Ravager all in, all day long
Only decent zerg strat.
Murder she roach
@@zeifenar8248 with the widow mine nerf, ling bane is significantly better than roach ravager.
Pro Terran can still kite -10hp banelings for days.@@ghosthamster6521
@@zeifenar8248 Yeah, not according to all the better Zergs.
where is the "stateless banter starts at" guy
What’s the music at 2:15:30-ish to 2:17:30-ish?
LET'S GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
woooow gsl in vegas?? such legendary history i've forgotten about , which is great before i get to watch it a second time for the first time XD
The first game's Maru timing is close to Olivera's timing for cracking down Serral last time
That final 0-4 must have been traumatizing
@@charlessoong3435Serral did to Maru what Maru does to SoO and Shin on a regular basis
@@charlessoong3435 Maru is going to have a much harder time with the time Oliveria beat him since he was definitely the favorite to win that. Serral has 0-4'ed him before.
Till serral has the balls to play a season in the GSL his overall GOAT status will always be in doubt.
cure vs byun game 1 was gorgeous
04:03:33 that was sick af
Anyone know the Music at 35 min ?
Timmy Two Screens does it again!
I wanna see Soo just continue too
When is the next RO8 video coming out? And who are the other 4 players? TY
Soo at 198 supply, Maru at 70. "Theres a world where Maru could get a tie here." Come on guys.
I always root for zerg, but SoO really have lost my love. Maybe it's just the fact that he feels a bit uncomfortable playing at the highest level right now after being gone, but his playstyle is so.. strained. There is no doubt he is an amazing player, incredibly strong. But there really is something lacking in his play when you compare him to the other zergs out there right now. It feels like he is just trying to brute force his way to winning, and sometimes it works. He is an excellent player, no doubt.
Maybe this is just a sign that the current zerg players all have very distinct and uniquely creative playstyles right now, or maybe soO is just struggling to get back into form. It's hard to say.
Soo has been and will always be the Lair Tech King. I remember him back in the HotS days he would play muta ling bane for ever and never transition into hive tech
@@scottbruce7423 I suppose you're right. The thing i find frustrating about watching him today IS his special style.
@@scottbruce7423 He definitely needs some coaching on how to get out of that rut and expand his play style. He's definitely an elite player, but as the casters pointed out, he doesn't seem to know what to do in the late game, and his ability with spellcasters has always been terrible. I think him coming back made it even worse. He actually performed much better in the previous round. Then again, I don't think he had to go to the late game then.... Regardless, if he's going to win another tournament, he needs to get more well rounded.
@@kommisar. is it really a rut when that's how they've defined their entire career? At this point, it's just the style he likes to play, I think. And it's not like he hasn't had success doing it. He got to the round of 8, beat Byun, got demolished early game by Maru 3 times and won the single game he didn't fall way behind.
@@scottbruce7423 Yes, it's a rut when you're continually not making it past a certain bracket or hitting a wall at a certain point of the game. He's a great player and has a had a lot of success in the game, more than most people could dream of, but if he wants to make it farther, win another major tournament even, he needs to fix this part of his game. Obviously his mid-game Roach play works to a good extent, but he needs a way to transition out of it when it isn't. It worked on Byun and it didn't work on Cure or Maru. Does that mean he doesn't have to improve anything?
Some great games today. Especially that first TvT
games like the first tvt is why the starcraft ladder is dead
@30:05 Tasteless: "I don't see any banelings in this mix." Seriously...?
Surprisingly not boring for 3 terran.. so sad no toss makes me cry.
Dude a 35 minute TVT and not ONCE did we get to see the unit lost tab.
Awesome cure
So are super tournaments a thing of the past now?
soO bring me backkk. but yea he is not as good as he used to be sadly. I hope he improves! It was fun watching him back in the days.
LOL first TvT commentator loves the army split vs a smaller army and thats what leads to him losing because your overwhelming army is now two beatable little chunks.
@Tasteless you mean the Story of Yellow "KONG"
OMG I must say I was completely wrong guess game 2 results for Maru vs Cure. LOL I fast forwarded thinking one side already won, then realized I was wrong in my assumption and rewatched.
Yeah, Cure really making the surprise victory there. We'll see how Maru performs in the next round. He may have to face Cure again.
Spoiler!
That hold by cure in g2 vs maru was immaculate.
What's up with Soo and misscalculating how many biles he needs per tank ? I was loosing my mind watching several tanks firing for an extra 10+seconds in almost every single game.
I cannot hear "there is a world where..." any more time :(
nice shout out to uthermal
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All the Serral fanboys are crying with the GOAT talk. The issue is Serral ducked his invitation to the GSL in 2018 and 2019 he only accepted a ST once. He had his chance to end the debate by atleast participating in a full season. Because of this he will never be the GOAT, just the best non korean in SC2.
Damn, so many great games in here, amazing!
Also, great casting ofc as usual. Tiny thing, but I get the impression that State sometimes tries to one-up or correct Tasteless, there are sort of debates going on that didnt happen with Tastosis. That's not needed, TasteGOD knows what he is talking about, just let him make his point!
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no WWAYYYYYYYYYYY maru won that game. u know the game im talking about
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They kinda glazed over the fact that in Maru vs soO to start, soO picked the first map... then got plastered to start? So confusing.
"Look at this army SOO has mustard!" xD
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Is it just me or is State talking A LOT more than Tasteless?
soo is like so godawful at late game, does his coaches doesnt tell his obvious problem? he literally groups all his stuff in to 1 big army instead of like most pros and have 1 main army on left and smaller army on right to defend. any decent player will just pull him apart non stop while he draw his big army cross the map non stop
OLD TIMMY TWO-SCREENS !!!!! hahahaha
BAAACCCK!
OL TIMMY TWO SCREENS
GG’s
Oh my god. Tasteless thinks the Serral = GOAT argument is due to foreigner bias, lol
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serral holds game 1 without ever losing a queen.
Would enjoy watching Serral ragdoll these terrans. Soo made soo many mistakes and still almost won.
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suggesting someone who has never played in KR is in the running for goat *lmao*
Not everyone has money to spend time(months) in Korea just to play in GSL, and even if they did it’s literally not worth it.
+ terran user is present
@@ProtossOP Especially with the even more pathetic prize pool.
I hear some bs, Serral comes from a rich family. If he trully wanted to prove the goat for good he would have the balls for a season in the GSL. The reality is he ducked his invitation in 2020, yet serral fanboy fail to acknoweldge this. Serral is the best non Korean in the world thats all you can say.@ProtossOP
@@themightyredemption I'm not a Serral fanboy nor do I actively follow SC2 scene for like a year or two. But I fail to see how staying for a season of a tier 2 tournament(yes I think that GSL is a tier 2 tournament these days) is having balls. GSL for a non-korean is a huge time and money sink that's not worth prize money nor title.
Quick note: if winning 4-0 in the recent ESL finals against 7 times back-to-back GSL champion doesn't prove anything I don't know what will.
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Not worth watching without Tastosis
I’m sorry but if you haven’t won a GSL you shouldn’t be in the GOAT conversation
That's just stupid. Serral just doesn't want to win a GSL.
Serral ducked out of his invitation in 2018 and 2019 yet Serral fanboys act like he hasnt had a chance for a GSL season. He simply doesn't have the balls. He is the best non korean ever for sure, but a reality check is needed. @@kommisar.
@@themightyredemption No one ever claimed Serral was not allowed to play in GSL. He openly states he's not interested.
@@kommisar. He's scared!
@@CPU_1_Scared he’ll beat Maru in another series 😨
are there 2 progamers worse at lategame than soO and Byun?
that was infuriating
Terran op, need NERF that 2-2 push
So, blue players win every match. I find that very sus...
serral is the most afraid gamer alive. Its sad really.
Another late game zerg loss against an elite terran where they go brood lords and/or ultras. T3 zerg is garbage in the current meta. Doesn't stop Serral, though, lol.
Wrong. Roaches are garbage in the current meta. Ling bane is really strong since the widow mine nerf. Every terran is going tanks. Soo was in too bad of a spot from playing roaches for too long.
@@ghosthamster6521 He had a fair amount of success on the Roach comp. The problem is when he ran up against a wall he didn't transition out of them for a long time, and furthermore, more importantly actually, his late-game game is not good. He has always avoided spellcasters and it shows, and Zerg NEEDS good spellcaster use in the late game.
omg please stop pretending the GOAT conversation is still a conversation; IT IS NOT! Serral has literally done better than Maru overall! More tourney won more money won than Maru even tho he started YEARS LATER than Maru! And here's the biggest one; almost EVERY TIME they face each other SERRAL SHREKS MARU! not even close! Serral = Goat... Maru doesnt even come up in the conversation imo!
sOs goat babyyyyy
Bait used to be believable/:
Serral ducked out of an invitation to GSL in both 2018 and 2019. I have more respect for foreigners that actually tried atleast a season. He will never be considered the GOAT because of this.
Maru the GOAT of getting wiped by Serral
and who are you random dude with no life who no one cares about
@@dimitarapostolov937 cool story bro
Maru checks under his bed for Serrals
More like the GOAT of losing to offline finals in premiere tournaments. I'm still a fan though.
What's with all the hate? Aside from Serral, Maru can beat anyone else on Earth. He's an awesome player.
no arty?
no me watch
Casters really out of sinc today. Miss Tastosis
Wheres Gyuri? Bought a new tub of lotion and some kitchen roll FOR NOTHING????
She said she's leaving GSL :(
@@redwing999 What? BUT WHY? Was it my stalking that made her leave?
@@TheVanillatech It was a bit depressing, so I didn't read in details. But she did say she did the job for like 9 years already. Maybe she thinks it's time to move on to something else...
@@redwing999 Explains why she never returned any of my calls. Or texts. Or letters. And why she constantly called the police every time I sat outside her house for hours...
What happened to Smix? Haven't seen her in forever either.
"Serral who?" Serral the Maru Killer, that's who😁!
No protoss makes this unwatchable
And yet here you are 😂
ZvT is the most enjoyable matchup objectively.
Jesus, if Maru vs So0 doesnt show how overpowered terran is nothing will. Holy crap they need to nerf the crap outta that race.
but it's only Maru, if the race was overpowered we would have more terrans at this stage.
@@theGoldyMan umm, lmfao. Byun is in this stage, Cure is in this stage? lmfao. That just this group too.
@@theGoldyMan 10k banks vs byun with no eco - terran still wins LMFAO. yeah bud its just Maru. Its not the broken race with 98374587374568764378 ways to win vs the 2 zerg has and the 0 protoss have (cant whine bout OP toss when no GSL winner for toss since 2017). Lmao. imagine being blind to basically approved cheat codes.
Sad that it takes Byun completely messing up to the point Tasteless and State both sound completely flabbergasted again shows how broken terran is
@@troycoulter3708 Didn't herO win a GSL in 2022 ?
And then u watch Serral vs Maru and return back to reality.
Terran players are the worst. Thieves.
Wah!
State sucks
Maru: Attack Titan, Cure: Beast Titan. Byun: Armored Titan. Do you Agree?
Why Beast?
can you explain I never watched attack on titan before?
@@komagiri8624 Beast Titan is super smart, cure is also super smart, He won a GSL on build orders alone, It was an amazing sight to watch, I highly recommend. He always has the potential to take down Maru due to his intelligence.
@@xilunjiang317 Maru is the ultimate offensive weapon with no depths to his abilities, the epitome of a good defense is a great offense, Cure is hyper intelligent and capable of outsmarting anyone playing the game. Byun is armored titan due to his devil may care playstyle absorbing blows and dealing back in greater kind.
Agreed 🔥🔥🔥
what ya know Maru with 50 cent Goku SJJ 847587374 Kaio-Ken x 10 Blue Ultra instinct (AKA marines) beat units thats cost 58734x the price for half the power?